strategy

[scarlet mortar]

add ela once mod3

[blazing barn]

i can take 3 at start

i can take 3 at start

[scarlet mortar]

doro is nice for fremont ig, free damage without having ti get close to him

[blazing barn]

usualy i play
ascalon
kroos boobs
scavenger

[scarlet mortar]

for starter w/e goes tbh

i don't have a fixed starter comp, just mix and match

[blazing barn]

w/e?

[scarlet mortar]

whatever

[blazing barn]

so we got nowhere

[scarlet mortar]

i mean you could nab the 4-5*s there and do fine

at low diff it doesn't change much

[blazing barn]

on diff 3 now

[sly drift]

What is your issue on IS5.. your ops are cracked already

Even Ling

[scarlet mortar]

yh not d10

[sly drift]

Even D3

[blazing barn]

my luck

[scarlet mortar]

does the multiplier cap at d10 or d12, idr

[blazing barn]

my ahh luck

still not as bad as in is4 tho

[scarlet mortar]

i've been picking phantom solo starters for the heck of it lol

nicheknights is very annoying in IS

[sly drift]

IS4 on D0-D7 feels like shit ngl.

[scarlet mortar]

IS4 is the most fun at d10

d0 is dogshit

[blazing barn]

if you dont belive in my ahh luck, then look when i got pinecone

[rich plover]

Got all the medals, even the trimmed ones

Thank you very much

[blazing barn]

i have 8 pages of ops before getting pinecone

i already tested and comapred, im a statistic mistake

so normal doesnt apply

[rich plover]

Even with all the daily recruitments?

[scarlet mortar]

tbh i buy it

[blazing barn]

yup

[scarlet mortar]

it took me 3 years before getting cuora bc i missed the original credit store

[rich plover]

No way, even with Ranged AoE DPS Sniper tags

Damn Catapult

[scarlet mortar]

there's no pinecone combo lmao

[blazing barn]

8 damn pages

[sly drift]

You what

[rich plover]

Yea, it's not consistent

[scarlet mortar]

happens

not that weird anw, we have so many ops now

[rich plover]

But the thing is, they're common ops no?

[scarlet mortar]

no

statistics can and will betray you

[rich plover]

It's called gambling

Right, we have this funny thing called 4* Recruitment Voucher 1 in the Commendations store if you are that desperate

[scarlet mortar]

if you scour the playerbase you'll find a decent population without some random crusty old 4* bc they kept getting newer ones/5*s or sth

[rich plover]

Think I got most of the 4*s

Is there a list of 4* ops?

[blazing barn]

my luck doesnt only apply to 4*, half a year a go maybe bit more i had very little amount of guards and supporters and vanguards 6, but a lot of defenders and snipers

[somber falcon]

go take look at a banner info

[rich plover]

Well barring the crossovers of course

[scarlet mortar]

oh boy you should see my 6* history

[rich plover]

Yea I do have all of them except the crossover event ones

[sly drift]

This ptilopsys app is convenient

[scarlet mortar]

my first 6* was hoshi lmao

[blazing barn]

mine too

[rich plover]

Archetto here

[blazing barn]

its a common curse

[scarlet mortar]

SA and eyja took 3 years to come home

[blazing barn]

only 3?

[rich plover]

Tho not sure if she's worth E2ing nowadays...

[blazing barn]

damn thats fast

[blazing barn]

she is

[scarlet mortar]

i lived off of W and schwarz doing more damage against defenders than my arts dps

og phys shiller

[blazing barn]

i got sliver ash after 4 years

[scarlet mortar]

idt i even got him from pulls lol it was a random top op

[blazing barn]

as for kebab, still waiting

[scarlet mortar]

never used him outside of base

[blazing barn]

but back to is5, we drifted away

so who to use in this pain of a gamemode

[rich plover]

Speaking of IS5, what's the general gameplan for Quilon?

[sly drift]

Binds

[rich plover]

Stalling, got it

[blazing barn]

? ? ?

[rich plover]

Yeet a Wisadel in that general direction

[blazing barn]

and other starting 2?

[rich plover]

Uhhhh Beanstalk and Tin Man

[sly drift]

If you can't kill him fast enough (Not enough broken relic) then you do Bind route. Or Fear if you have Nymph.
You are punished really bad if blocking.

[rich plover]

Alternatively you can start with the Defender and Caster combo of your choosing

Lower diff with King's Relics is kek yea?

[blazing barn]

both are low e1

[void terrace]

Medic miya and cuora

Is my favourite starter

Or gummy

[blazing barn]

gummy and coura either e1 or e0

[rich plover]

Tin Man is just there for higher toll limit, otherwise not necessary. Tho AoE Arts dmg + healing is nice early game

Beanstalk is still good at E1. You can just replace her later on

[scarlet mortar]

actually wait where is your cuora

[blazing barn]

i think she is e0 somewhere

i have nian so no point in building cuora

[scarlet mortar]

she's better in IS than your 6* defenders

[rich plover]

True, but she's cheap in IS

[scarlet mortar]

defenders are only bodies

[rich plover]

Yea, you barely want Defenders

[scarlet mortar]

your hope is better spent on dps

[blazing barn]

like horn, jess alter and mudrock?

[scarlet mortar]

none of those are like, premium dps

[rich plover]

Ranged DPS is better, duh

[scarlet mortar]

defender tags are kinda dead tbh

[rich plover]

I barely see anyone use Supporters

Other than a few ops

Like Angelina

[blazing barn]

new broken sui waiting for release...

walter seems good

[wicked viper]

yu is not really broken

[full terrace]

Congrats, and you are welcome.

[twilit brook]

my healers keep getting it from behind

[narrow sun]

casters target two ops at once iirc, u will want to distract them by deploying other ops or kill them fast or both

[narrow pendant]

Or deploy right on top of them and then they are foorced to atk just them

[twilit brook]

Okay i try again

[vocal leaf]

nah, just use hoederer, he solo the boss

[manic vessel]

do i use nymph s2 or s3

for bossing

[narrow pendant]

S2

[vocal leaf]

3 deployment for this stage is nasty

[golden gyro]

How do you go about this? I always lose on this stage.

I don’t think you can use W alter anywhere

It’s cooked

[south spindle]

[dapper hedge]

All your range units facing right

[south spindle]

use Wisadel bottom left corner face up on S3

[dapper hedge]

Just ignore the slugs

They just gonna off themselves to the hole

[south spindle]

and other range units face right / play for melee mostly

[dapper hedge]

Also if youre starting vanguard-spec-sniper squad

Beanstalk is better over myrtle

[south spindle]

alternatively

sniper-def-caster is a little nicer

wisadel - gummy - click can consistently get spines

[full terrace]

Use ground unit, and defend in front of your blue box. If you are using ranged unit, use someone that does no AoE. Wisadel does mini-AoE offskill she is not really good for this stage. Your task is: 1. To not touch the originiutant slugs and let them walk to the hole by themselves. 2. To kill the Holy Automatons when they spawn (floating white rocket thingies). The reason for killing them is because they do global damage that would kill the originiutant slugs if you let them enter your blue box.

[lapis hornet]

Wis fell off?

[full terrace]

If you kill those originiutant slugs, first they do explosion damage, and then they spawn 3x3 AoE Necrosis field.

And for F2 thats pretty fatal.

[south spindle]

i meant to say bottom left oops

[golden gyro]

Wis aoe kills the splugs

Yeah I figured it’ll be a melee stage and don’t use wis

I usually don’t have a melee healer by then

I’ll work on it

[full terrace]

She still will yes unfortunately, but you can try to time it so that she shoot the Holy Automatons

Then you can retreat her

Kaz Falls is really painful because it's an F2 stage

Best just avoid it

Reset the node or something

[dapper hedge]

https://youtu.be/jA-7LWQSIgw

This is d15 stats so it might make a difference but you can see it works here

Just dont use s3

[golden gyro]

I tried to do the Strat with emergency and you get like 100 items. So sadly, I actually roll into this stage.

Twice now, where I just lose because I get W alter trapped

[smoky halo]

wtf bait video

[smoky halo]

the stat diff between d15 pre expansion and d18 dont matter because tech tree gives +30% atk def hp instead of 20% pre expansion

[kindred scroll]

just a quick question, will Mystic Casters create new charges while they are frozen?

[glass monolith]

No because their charge creation is attacking without target

[kindred scroll]

thanks for the answer. Sad I can't Ebonholz to build dps when he's frozen

[sly drift]

There's a way to build Ebenholz charge even when there's enemies on his range

[glass monolith]

Sir put your Kafka/Blacknight down

[sly drift]

[mild brook]

How to beat

[sly drift]

It's simple stage using preset squad.

[mild brook]

Idk where to place

Bc of the final two enemies rot eater

[glass monolith]

Damn this stage name ( )

[mild brook]

Kaltsit dies also

[glass monolith]

What does Victoria need, answer me, Kaltsit

[mild brook]

Thanks

[fluid tendon]

Hello guys, is there any actual tier list that I could guide myself on?

I am a nee player

[full terrace]

No tierlist, but you can ask around in #help

[scarlet mortar]

tier lists aren't very helpful unless you boil the game down to like three roles and base your whole experience around them

and even then you get stuff like myrtle being a better DP generator than ines but doing fuckall besides that

so ines, despite being the BiS if you had to bring a single vg in a general team, isn't BiS bc of a simple metric like "she generates the most DP"

at its core anw you should be raising the best among those you have, then if needing to pull decide based on what you're lacking most in your playstyle

for new players that means dps ig

[fluid tendon]

You sure know a lot, thanks I guess, everythings depends on situation

[scarlet mortar]

it's pretty generic advice for gachas

end of day the simplest strat is to raise a decent core team and then borrow a wis'adel or sth

i mentioned playstyles bc that's the only thing separating your decisions from the bare basics

[lapis hornet]

wdf...

tierlist bad is help talk

surely pros in strat have an authoritative one

[scarlet mortar]

i mean if you want we can probs make like, five tier lists for different roles or sth

and then disagree on all of them

[dapper hedge]

Its all wis on # 1 yep

[brisk surge]

okay

go wis ccb3

[scarlet mortar]

mfw the tier list only has one op in one tier

if you add a second op we'll get a battle royale

[full terrace]

Instead of making tier lists, it's better to make a list of pros and cons of top meta units, I'm sure everyone will reach a consensus on that, and that will help those newbies.

[brisk surge]

okay arf go make

😏

[wicked minnow]

chishasu is working on something similar but it's just 2 tierlists and a whole bunch of text along with it

acc i wonder how far he got

[lapis hornet]

hey guys im new I found this list online is it reliable

it's made by chinese player and has 80k views must be reputable right

[wicked minnow]

the more i look at it the worse it gets

and it gets worse very quickly

[lapis hornet]

wait does ironwolf still do his rankings

[wicked minnow]

it goes from "ok so what's wrong with it" to "i want whatever he was having making this"

surely there is more context i am missing

[lapis hornet]

scanning through top 4/5 tiers I don't see anything shocking

[wicked minnow]

anything past tier 1 is yikes imo

[scarlet mortar]

good tier list

[wicked minnow]

there would have to be something i am missing that he is grading the operators on

[brisk surge]

even tier 1 is debatable imo

this tierlist has an issue of identity

[scarlet mortar]

(it makes people mad)

[lapis hornet]

Victoria looks kinda high but I haven't kept up with latest trends

[full terrace]

And folks, this is why no tierlist is approved by the community

[lapis hornet]

wait where's ironwolf channel

fking chinese and their chinese names madge

[brisk surge]

just read chinese loser

😏

[lapis hornet]

list only bad if you have help mindset no kappa

would put gladiia up a tier or two but I'm biased

[scarlet mortar]

yh you are

[late geyser]

all tier lists are subjective dude

[scarlet mortar]

she should be kicked further down :realmad

[late geyser]

dont follow them

[brisk surge]

you are biased which makes anything you say worthless

and this is why we dont make tierlists

ardanis tierlist would have skadi on A tier

[lapis hornet]

wdf why

[scarlet mortar]

use shu on ulpianus and save a slot

[lapis hornet]

almost any time you play ulpi you're playing glad they should be closer smh

[scarlet mortar]

slepge

[brisk surge]

amazing

i see why now

[scarlet mortar]

me when i bring gladiia to buff ulpianus (could've been done with like 4 other ops or replaced with dps anw)

[lapis hornet]

she can also lane

[scarlet mortar]

yh that's also a dozen other ops

[lapis hornet]

shu you're stuck putting her next to ulpi literally wasted slot 80% of the time

[scarlet mortar]

are you using shu S1 or sth

[wicked minnow]

gladiia lane-ing is like putting down cliffheart with a healer bruh

[brisk surge]

no but shileds

gladiia is S tier

[lapis hornet]

actually

gladiia 3k+ entries on rec vs 700 for shu this isn't even a contest

sgu fraud unit?

[scarlet mortar]

yh bc AH is a niche lol

[wicked minnow]

i've been always against using arkrec as a metric of an operator's strength

[scarlet mortar]

AH inflated gladiia's records by a million percent

[brisk surge]

so ling is the best character by that logic 😏

[lapis hornet]

gladiia also max risker never seen shu there it's plain math

[scarlet mortar]

-# if you said that first i would've taken you seriously

that said we're in the CCB era where if you're a ground op you have negative rights

[lapis hornet]

haven't kept up with ccb tbh

like no clue what ccb3 is about at all gonna go into it full blind

actually goated experience unless cringe af cc

[scarlet mortar]

clueless

[smoky halo]

lemuen suzu texas out of place :pepela:

[uneven dock]

H8-4, how do I stop her from attacking civilians?

[scarlet mortar]

normally she'll burn your ops first

don't let her explode the burns next to the civs

the fireball wave only has one "cheese" with logos S3 erasing projectiles, the best mitigator is nightingale S3 if you include the cages ig

other than that you're meant to tank

[glass monolith]

And don't be big brain like me who activated Heavyrain S2 to make fireballs fly over my ops

[worthy mason]

I'm doing anni3 but gets absolutely wrecked by defense crusher in the late game. I realize Lappland can solo kill them with s2 active, and Amiya should be able to handle them too.
Any deployment suggestions? (Bagpipe is there until shadow wave is finished, then retreated)

I still don't have Cuora so yea, I will put her on Beagle's spot when I do

(Also this is without borrowing, and all e1 but Thorns and Amiya, both are also lvl30)

[haughty flower]

I'm a bit late, but what if you moved lappy right one tile and moved beagle up one tile?
That should cut down healing pressure on silence, as now Kroos is protected, and also gives you a perfect drone spot where lappy once was to cover gummy, lappy, and beagle.

[worthy mason]

Ig gummy 1 right too so lappy can help out

[haughty flower]

That would be good, yes.
Might bring gravel too. Just stick her in as emergency stall if a crusher survives in order to hold until your op recovers.

[worthy mason]

Maybe I'll swap gummy and beagle. The shadow casters will kill her if i dont

[haughty flower]

If no gravel, even yato the 2* may suffice. I forget how much damage they do.

[worthy mason]

I checked wiki,it's about 1k

[haughty flower]

She can hold the regular defense crushers for 2 attacks, but the leaders will one tap her.

Do you have any other ops that might be handy here?

[worthy mason]

i better swap amiya and ptilo

since there is no need to face ptilo down

[worthy mason]

wdym?

[haughty flower]

I was thinking hilariously, if you have Ansel leveled you just might be able to use his skill effect.

Assuming you have enough deploy slots left for him.

[worthy mason]

i do but no spots

[haughty flower]

Ok, actually scratch my idea. I decided to hunt up a low rarity run and I think I have a solution, if you don't mind a bit of copy pasting.

Replace Arene with Lappy, maybe flip Perfumer's position with Kroos then replace with Krooster and Ptil. Meteor replacement with Amiya.

[worthy mason]

nah i think im good with this

as long as lappy can handle defense crusher then everything is fine

idk if e1 could handle them well tho

[haughty flower]

Alright, depending on your levels maybe things will be alright.
If things don't work come back to the pic above and do some mix n' match. gl

[tidal sedge]

hey may I ask where can you do that like the blueprint thing on the annihilation map?

[worthy mason]

https://map.ark-nights.com/

[maiden hound]

map.ark-nights.com

[worthy mason]

you can check all maps bascially

[tidal sedge]

thanks

[worthy mason]

and enemy routes too

[radiant plinth]

waow

anni3

havent seen that in a long time

[sharp birch]

Does anyone know what is special about the preset is5 seeds given

[placid shard]

For stages like 6-11 and 6-12, are you meant to bring along a wandering medic to heal the cold buildup, or just power through it with strong units?

[haughty flower]

Wandering medics can't even heal cold, you're meant to play around it.

[smoky halo]

cold is a status like stun, freeze, etc.

therapists counter statuses

thats not elemental damage

[haughty flower]

6-11 for instance, your goal is to farm dp in the thin region between the casters, then deploy DPS on the left side casters and use gravel or similar as bait.

And then in CM you need to skip the farming DP step and go straight to DPS + gravel.

From there the level becomes fairly standard.
Alternatively if you wish to brute force, borrow an FRD like Texas Alter s3 or Yato Alter s2/3.

6-12 is also straightforward. Use defenders or your tankier guards to keep away spiders from your DPS ops in the back, and keep healing them.

[radiant plinth]

these messages make me feel old

[rapid junco]

Always has been

[placid shard]

I think my team is probably just underleveled, I got 2 stars from leaking the drone(s) even with a support unit. I could probably 3 star it with wisadel but that'd be a bit lame

[haughty flower]

If you solely hate wisadel try the fast redeploy ops.

Texalt or Yato alt are the perfect ops for getting in, killing stuff, and getting out.

[placid shard]

I dont hate wisadel, I do use her when I get fed up, but I prefer to try to use less OP ops to overcome a difficult stage so im not always using her as a crutch

[haughty flower]

Give my suggestion a try then and see how it goes.

Learning frd's isn't too bad a thing.

[wintry gulch]

Is there any particular stage they’re stuck on rn?

Or just ch 6 in general

[placid shard]

Whats frd?

Also, Texas alter did the trick nicely. I'd never used her before, had no idea what she did until now. Good recommendation.

[haughty flower]

Fast redeploy.

They're meant to be deployed and undeployed relatively freely.

[placid shard]

I have gravel and crownslayer and use them frequently

I just didnt know texas alter was a frd

Or yato alter

Since i dont have them

[haughty flower]

Yeah, yato is unfortunately an old collab op you can't get anymore, and Texalt is limited.

[placid shard]

Awwww yato is collab only?
Shame.

[haughty flower]

I do suggest you start cutting back on levelling crownslayer for now. If gravel is e1 that's good enough, leave her there too

[placid shard]

Ik crownslayer is one of the weaker 6-stars but I only have a few 6-stars on my account in general and she's helped me out a bit

I do plan on prioritizing others though (Blaze, la pluma, thorns, saria, amiya)

Then probably gravel e2

After all those E2's

[haughty flower]

She's a bit too expensive for unfortunately being powercrept by gravel.
Gravel can honestly be left e1-she normally tanks enough even then so long as you feed her skills a few levels and use s2.

[placid shard]

Gravel's almost maxed E1 so she's fine

[haughty flower]

Yeah, for now focus on the rest of your roster besides your frd's, then.

They'll need their levels and e2's for what's to come.

[placid shard]

My next leveling list is in the order I posted above

Other than Amiya. I might level her earlier because I dont have a lot of arts damage on my roster

[haughty flower]

If you have click, try her instead.

Amiya is unfortunately a relatively weak arts DPS op, and needed on a grand total of 2 stages.

[sly drift]

IS task.. without even touching IS

[mild brook]

How to beat this

[rapid junco]

I feel so sorry to sussuro

[elder flume]

.

[rapid junco]

You can tank middle and let Wis doing damage to Tallulah

You just need someone to break fire stone thingy

[mild brook]

Can i do it with my squad?

[rapid junco]

I mean, rain sending you bare minimum power lvl squad

Surely you can copy it

[elder flume]

well you need another frd

[mild brook]

I dont have money to lvl up

[elder flume]

if not then you have to spend 35+ dp for someone to get burnt

[rapid junco]

Change a bit to suit it?

[elder flume]

only Yato needs max level

[rapid junco]

You have bunch of e2 6*

I will kil ifrit and Chen tho
You ain't gonna deploy them anyway

[elder flume]

Mlynar is basically better Teq
tho cant stop his skill so killing the enemies will change a bit
but you have Mountain to replace Spot

[rapid junco]

Mlynar can facing bottom to kill phase 1 talu

Amazing

[elder flume]

why kill phase 1 when Wis does it alr in my strat

[rapid junco]

🤫

[elder flume]

oya dont you have CS

that alr takes care of Yato Figurio

an extra slot for whoever

[mild brook]

My borrowed wisadel doesnt kill her in 4 shots and she dies

[elder flume]

mod3 S3M3?

[scarlet mortar]

and she dies
sounds wrong even if wis doesn't kill talulah

[mild brook]

This is who i borrow

[elder flume]

record your run

[mild brook]

Idk how to ill just try and try again

She actually kills her im just dumb

How many phases is the boss?

[elder flume]

2

[mild brook]

I can kill boss now but i die on the final fire balls because of the leaks with 2 block

[elder flume]

your goal is to kill the one going to the bottom and keep the top alive

retreat everyone thats not on top

that way your healer only heals 1 op making it easier for them to survive

if Mlynar or whoever on top kills the 2block thats fine tbh

you have better ops than my run to put them down or maybe even better healing to keep both lanes alive

[mild brook]

Yes sir

[rapid junco]

Add silence alter for survival 🤫

@scarlet fulcrum
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YA5p6atK_go&si=W4N8ok7ZDNN8D2es

[steel prairie]

is Penance a pure defender ?

[maiden hound]

laneholder

[steel prairie]

ah decent

need it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Noice

[azure roost]

@scarlet fulcrum good day today

did 16 pulls on celebration

not obtained is hoe and typhon

got typhon

hoe can wait

[scarlet fulcrum]

This banner too ass for me, will just spend 180 certs after they kernel jailed

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nice result still 👍

[azure roost]

i prob save pulls now

oh ye shu rerun soon

excited to decimate boss with rosmon again

[scarlet fulcrum]

I think my auto using krooster

[azure roost]

damn yu is near @scarlet fulcrum

if i got him nice to abuse s2

plus i can use shu talent now

since i have enough sui sibling

[scarlet fulcrum]

Probably will pull on last day

Shu talent for low step fr

[azure roost]

real

[azure roost]

i will ksip it doe

for exu2

only using free pull

[scarlet fulcrum]

well 1 6* wont hurt

[azure roost]

ngl need to buy shu skin

idk what other skin on yu event

i forgot

[scarlet fulcrum]

Only remembered zuo le skin

Maybe Bena skin also there

[azure roost]

i prob buy bena skin on alt

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah nice change of vibe

[mild brook]

How to beat this who to borrow also

[azure roost]

prob dont break the middle box early

ofc have blocker for clone when its goes on middle

and have good healing for it

u can deal with those shielder?

on other side

if you can, you dont have issue then.

and ye find a way to reveal them early

having invi reveal can make a way easier to dealt with invisible enemy

gl

[void iris]

speed run seed?

[rapid junco]

Ask #is-station
They have kermot

[narrow pendant]

And if u see "fibrogen" ignore

Hes a fraud

🥱

[rapid junco]

@smoky halo

[smoky halo]

?

[rapid junco]

Bro pick a fight with typoing other's name

So epic

[golden gyro]

Well I tried

[haughty flower]

How did you even lose with that roster.

Did you, like, skip all the King's relics, forget to rob Cannot, and pick Doodle on F1?

[wicked minnow]

im assuming he just had no one to actually block the boss and couldnt dps him in time

i would imagine kings relics + hand

[placid shard]

I just actually tried 6-12 today, and uh....

Whaddafuq

This stage is insane 😭

[haughty flower]

It's just a check for if you know how to protect your DPS ops

Your ranged DPS should sit near the back, comfortably firing away while your blockers in front scream in agony as they bait casters/block spiders

Alternatively, just Yato Alter s3 it, lol

Long lines like that are a playground for her

[placid shard]

I think im gonna have to go the alternate route because I seriously just do not understand this stage

I tried the first thing and it aint working

[somber falcon]

it's a straightforward stage, what do you not get

[haughty flower]

I think his roster is mad underleveled so he can't tank shit.

In which case, standard procedure goes to borrow abuse

[placid shard]

The roster in question

[somber falcon]

or just the good ol' level up and come back later

[placid shard]

I have no battle records

[somber falcon]

hence later

not now

[haughty flower]

Your biggest problem here honestly is DP production and DPS

[placid shard]

Yeah some better dps ops would be nice

[somber falcon]

dp is never a problem 99% of time

[haughty flower]

The 7-9 in question:

[placid shard]

I think im gonna do a funny and E2 lvl 80 La Pluma real quick

That may help some of my dps problem

[haughty flower]

Early story stages have an emphasis on having at least a few sources of DP production.

[somber falcon]

I didn't say 100%

[haughty flower]

Fangalt just won't cut it on her own.

[somber falcon]

besides, it's really only that 2 or 3 stage on ch 7 anyways

[glass monolith]

DP wasn't problem for me in 7-9, my problem was "Did that fucking dog just ate Siege?"

[placid shard]

[haughty flower]

Skillish tbh

[placid shard]

Huh

Now im scared

[haughty flower]

It'll be funny when you get there but we gotta clear 6-12 first.

[wicked minnow]

there's barely enough dp in 7-9 to use scene as a starter so i just did that

[haughty flower]

La Pluma isn't DPS, but Tequila is.

You levelled scene for early game...?

[full terrace]

Did you grab the Kings set, cultivate Shrivels, and visit Rogue Traders regularly?

[wicked minnow]

uh oh let me check what i did on my main acc

[full terrace]

How did you position your operators before that screenshot

[haughty flower]

Very carefully

[golden gyro]

no i rolled everything to emergency op

i did not pick up any of hte king sets

and i did not have anyone block boss

he just walked straight through the stage

[haughty flower]

Well, there's your problem, don't you think?

[golden gyro]

i went into it blind xd

[wicked minnow]

im hoping you atleast tried to go for the king set encounter

[full terrace]

You are lacking dps is what I'm assuming, you should do the usual IS5 routine

[golden gyro]

ill look up a guide next

[haughty flower]

A guide to the stage itself won't explain a thing imo, your job for patriot is sheer brute force through relic stacking typically and not really playing into his mechanics.

[placid shard]

Whos scene? And I dont have tequila

[azure roost]

hi

how to play is5

[dark mantle]

just pick lamp and get king set
ending 3 is so piss easy you just need that to win

[placid shard]

Funny moment has already been done. Pluma is now my strongest unit

[azure roost]

i havent touched it for 5 months now

[full terrace]

You dont need a guide, it's a very straightforward stage, watch this for positioning reference if you want #strategy message

[haughty flower]

Crack open the Dossoles Holiday side story and play 5 stages. He's one of the better early game DPS you can get.

[azure roost]

based cs e1

[glass monolith]

Walk in, die, say you don't want to play this roguelike shit again, play it again

[haughty flower]

It's a roguelite btw

[wicked minnow]

i dont have the replay nvm. i do remember this being a harder stage tho when i was newer

[golden gyro]

why was amiya doing so much dmg

[full terrace]

Because True Damage

[haughty flower]

Proper relic setup + true DPS.

[full terrace]

Patriot has 80% DR if you hit him from more than 2 tiles away

[golden gyro]

hmm i didnt knew she does true dmg

[azure roost]

wtf shileds real

shileds where is last pot of leto

[glass monolith]

Noted - Hit him 5 times as much

[azure roost]

😠

[golden gyro]

s3?

[azure roost]

i got degen dupe

[haughty flower]

Which barely matters anyways because he explodes to anything even on A18

[azure roost]

is5 gaming be like

[golden gyro]

onto the next run!

[placid shard]

Should I invest in Pluma S1 or S2 first for mastery?

[azure roost]

ngl for me im lazy so i mastery s1, but go s2

[dark mantle]

patriot has stats but you outstat him easily
and the stage design is nothing special, so it's rly ez to win

[haughty flower]

S2 would keep her alive...but you decided to level her for the stage that favors ranged melee or just pure ranged dps

She's gonna freeze to death and explode-which considering her outfit makes sense, why are you bringing a gal in a swimsuit into Terra's version of a Russian city? :P

[azure roost]

why not

[haughty flower]

But chapter 6 enemy is much faster and can freeze his opponents

[placid shard]

Texas alter + pinecone ended up being the ticket to win it

I could not for the life of me get yato alter to come up in my support list

[haughty flower]

Ah well, you win some, you lose some when it comes to support roulette.

[sly drift]

Logos is on Scout. First time on this map.
What kind of nonsense shit is this map on first battle node floor2

[full terrace]

Feed them Wisadel's Revenant Shadows and shoot them 😏

[scarlet mortar]

wdym la pluma's fine dps

[dark mantle]

divine punishment for drafting myrtle

beanstalk solves this stage

[scarlet mortar]

just not as dph-coded as teq

[lilac steppe]

Does IS expansion affect stages on all floor, or they just add more stage at higher floor?

[scarlet mortar]

there're new stages on all floors iirc

[sly drift]

I don't even know how the heck the stage will look like..

[scarlet mortar]

at least there were in expansion 1

[lilac steppe]

ah, got it. i found new stage, but i thought it was because of certain path

[haughty flower]

La Pluma is a laner, not DPS.

[noble hollow]

i feel like being a laner requires you to have at least decent dps

[haughty flower]

She'll eat fodder for breakfast but without the atk modifiers phys DPS ops have she'll struggle to punch through tankier enemies.

[haughty flower]

There's overlap. For instance, Ulpianus lanes. He also is DPS due to high DpH on a strong cycle.

[scarlet mortar]

those aren't mutually exclusive

you're thinking of burst dps

[haughty flower]

Fine, fine, burst. Regardless-it's not terribly high.

[scarlet mortar]

with S2 tbh her dph isn't too impressive but it's a lot in total damage

especially with mod

[haughty flower]

If you want to qualify as good phys DPS you need ways to punch through higher def imo.
As a hyperbole, Exusiai ST DPS technically isn't bad, last I checked. She's not considered good for very obvious reasons.

[scarlet mortar]

the confusing thing here is that i was talking abt dps the number, not the role

[haughty flower]

I guess we're talking past each other, in that case.

[scarlet mortar]

i don't use the term dps for the role tbh, since def is so polarizing

hunters being the funny example

[haughty flower]

Ray actually has both DPS and DPH.
It's Coldshot who has good DPH but piss-poor DPS in nonoptimal conditions.

[scarlet mortar]

average 6* going fuck the archetype

if you take away her S3 she's back to being a hunter's hunter

[scarlet fulcrum]

s1 still has special ammo

So technically yea screw the archetype

[lapis hornet]

daphuk

dps unit means dph now

[scarlet fulcrum]

Welp damage per hour brainrot

doesn't end well

[haughty flower]

Again, Exu qualifies as DPS. No sane player will apply her for the role of modern DPS for very, very obvious reasons.
For the role of DPS unit, you do need a degree of DPH if you're a phys op.

[lapis hornet]

i have no idea what that means tbh

[scarlet fulcrum]

Means pluma not dps

[haughty flower]

Deals damage =! Can be used to reliably kill dangerous enemies with higher stats than fodder enemies.

[narrow sun]

dph = damage per hit, physical units really want good dph because of how the defense calcs work

[lapis hornet]

sus

[narrow pendant]

Amongsus,?

[haughty flower]

Of course you summoned fredi with that

[narrow pendant]

Ive been here

In the shadows

:ya:

[vocal leaf]

not game crashing near the end of cannot stage

[haughty flower]

You Cannot pass.

What crashed it?

[vocal leaf]

nothing, it just crashed

[haughty flower]

Unlucky.

[wicked minnow]

huh coldshot discussion

uhhh

people shit on her too easily it feels like. but yeah she has quite decent dph but her dps is a bit lacking

idk rough numbers say about 1.4k dps but i would take my numbers with a grain of salt

that's assuming she's starting off with 0 ammo on skill

coldshot actually does decent damage my main grievances with her would be that she's a bit jank and that she does genuinely fuck all off-skill

i wouldnt even say her dps is all that bad it's just that with 6* in the mix you shouldnt really ever be using her and you might just prefer to use arts dps instead of penetrating such high def anyway

[narrow pendant]

Dont care

🚮

Hi bestie

[wicked minnow]

ok bruh

hiiii

[magic hemlock]

is there a strategy for beating IW-5 as a new player? I've been stuck for an hour trying to beat it

[narrow sun]

all i know about IW for new players is bring ethan s1

he can be bought in red cert shop and used at level 1, he trivializes the event mechanic

[azure roost]

[magic hemlock]

i am poor, isn't there any other option?

[narrow sun]

of course, make sure you deploy melee last and bring plenty of ranged ops

[azure roost]

ling event?

[limpid ore]

borrow

yeah, just borrow ling s3

[magic hemlock]

i tried, the crabs just kill everyone

[azure roost]

just ling it

[narrow sun]

spawn camp crabs

[azure roost]

[narrow sun]

kyostinv just has popukar and a healer to deal with crabs
make sure you dont bunch up your ops in the place where u plan to kill them

[magic hemlock]

would this work?

[narrow sun]

im sure ling can solo lmao

[magic hemlock]

i usually use only silence

[narrow sun]

place ling out of range of the enemies and place dragons at chokepoint + crab spawn, ez

[scarlet mortar]

well those are certainly levels

ngl if you've only started this week you're kinda unfortunate

saddled with 2 event reruns and dead days

[magic hemlock]

bruh, i started yesterday

[scarlet mortar]

yh f

i mean you can prep until the new event ig

that's when you'll really make bank

[magic hemlock]

should i prep or make another account?

[scarlet mortar]

prep

making a new account doesn't do you any favors if you want to play rn

[full terrace]

If you wanna prep for Yu banner, which is coming in around 2~3 weeks, I have a full guide to get you through the Main Stories without spending any resources (LMD/Battle Records/Materials/Originite Prime/Orundum) if you are interested. That way you can save all the Originite Prime to pull on Yu's Limited banner, then spend the resources to raise a powerful unit you pulled.

[magic hemlock]

i am interested, where can i find it?

[full terrace]

I only upload when I get home from work so it takes time, but eventually your account will look like this #strategy message after finishing all 14 Chapters of the Main Stories

And some Side Stories

[magic hemlock]

cool, thanks for working on this guide

i will try to do it

[full terrace]

Oh and dont spend your Originite Prime on Sanity btw

And ideally you wanna use the E2 Voucher you get for free on Tequila

But if you wanna use it on Lappland thats also fine, not a big deal

[stone dawn]

Level 3-8 is a pain got 3 six star exusiai,kal’tsit and Mike Tyson got 3 5 star electric gun girl, wolf girl and Laplace how do i beat this level is this a god deck

Here is my deck

[full terrace]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LMz5bFK60dE&list=PLdcpPSF3owK4I4hwUvnzbI6_JXqjDzt7c&index=16&pp=gAQBiAQB

Borrow a Ling and do that

[unkempt lintel]

wow arf dalao

[rapid junco]

Arf as vtuber when

[vocal leaf]

[vital arrow]

Use mountain and kal S2

[desert wharf]

Hello, Im a returning player to prepare for Yu. I have all Sui siblings. Was wondering which module and skill for Nian if i run her with all Sui siblings?

[vital arrow]

S2

And +def mod

[steel prairie]

why does Vulpi not display her S3 skill range ??? (like where it can show you their range changes) cause her S3 increases her range

[dapper hedge]

It just +1 tile

[rapid junco]

Usually if the word just say +number tile , they won't tell
Theyll do if the word "expand range/change range"

🍝 always happen so not to everyone

[narrow pendant]

Also im fairly sure it does display the range ingame

If u just click the ability range indicator once u click on her🥹

[haughty flower]

It'll show the new range, correct.

But for +X tiles, only when their skill is active.

ie, Ansel

[fiery mountain]

give me a favor to pick one of these, I can't finish city of angels

[haughty flower]

If you can't even finish angels, the next two will screw you over.

Pick between the regular ending 1 or ending 2.

[grizzled thistle]

Chat how do I complete 10-16 😔

[scarlet mortar]

which stage was that again

manfred?

also ig what diff are you doing

[haughty flower]

Wisadel goes where chalter is. Stage solved.

[scarlet mortar]

oh the funny stage

[haughty flower]

God the compression fucked the quality.

[scarlet mortar]

it's pretty straightfoward with full squad gaming

the left cars can be killed so leave a caster to kill them

then dogpile the right

[haughty flower]

But you get the idea. Even just steward can slowly chip away at the top left car, meanwhile rotate tanks to bait the cannon in that position and Wis'adel any threatening enemies.

[grizzled thistle]

Could I do it without borrowing ops or are my ops not good enough?

[scarlet mortar]

looks free af

think the only problem you could have is the cannon there

[haughty flower]

E2 Exusiai was an error that's eating your funds and hurting your DPS.

[scarlet mortar]

eh on ch10 it's not the worst error to make

it's all slugs

[candid gale]

Which of those skills are already m3

[haughty flower]

But anyways. Exusiai where steward is ig. Reedic where chalter is, move courier 1 spot back and replace with silverash. Have defender rotate, 1 tile up.

[scarlet mortar]

10-16 has a big chokepoint so the idea is that you put your defender there to eat the cannon

[grizzled thistle]

Only sash is M1 😔

[scarlet mortar]

then your ranged ops just shoot the casters to death

[grizzled thistle]

Ok thanks

[scarlet mortar]

hopefully they're also out of range of the cannon

[haughty flower]

Silence goes where Myrrh is

[candid gale]

10-16 adverse right?

[haughty flower]

So to summarize:
Steward -> Exu. Maybe use steward if that fails
Chalter -> Reedic
Courier -> silverash. Move 1 tile left.
Defender -> rotate cardigan and cuora. Blaze for emergencies. Move 1 tile up.
Mryyh -> silence. Use ptil within cannon range and sacrifice her in case of emergency.

Myrtle will obviously do Myrtle things in some remote corner. She and Vulpis should be enough to let you get this set you up.

Maybe swap in gravel in place of krooster, just in case.

[grizzled thistle]

Ok thanks

[sly drift]

Emergency. What even the hell is this

Any tips before I blind run this

[pearl breach]

Rhine Guardians stage, it is just a bunch of dogs + rhine lab mobs.

Better colonize that middle redbox

[grizzled thistle]

Nevermind I'll just borrow chalter later since Reedic isn't enough 😔

[dark mantle]

very hard stage

[stone dawn]

I finally beat This level let’s gooo

[scarlet mortar]

rip leak

[maiden hound]

que

[sly drift]

Beginner leak. Still learning. Understandable.

[maiden hound]

oh

thought he 3 starred the stage and questioning why there's a "rip leak"

[somber falcon]

I'd argue it's even less acceptable because it's a learning
What's the point learning how to 2* a stage?

[sly drift]

Well yeah.. he is beginner and still learning

Though ppl online will argue over anything.

[vocal leaf]

[smoky halo]

LMAOOOOOOOOO

[maiden hound]

john strategjy here. never trust a ho who give out free cservicx

[wicked minnow]

what am i even looking at here 😭

[smoky halo]

free wisadel

[barren crescent]

Guys how do i deal with enemies on the left side of cityway 66?

[elder flume]

Spawncamp if you can
If not
Pusher for runners
Bait grenades until they reach middle

[scarlet mortar]

bricked run

abandon and delete account

[wicked minnow]

oh it's the new squad huh

[scarlet mortar]

https://youtu.be/thDQhCtAdTo?feature=shared @glass monolith

[glass monolith]

Fine. "If it died - We happy"

[full terrace]

Go to #arknights

[remote perch]

It looks ugly

[glass monolith]

Inability to place CC banners as wall decorations in clue room is crime against me collecting them

[remote perch]

Out of place

[upper vessel]

which one better

[glass monolith]

Abandon run button

[wintry gulch]

Very close competition, me personally I'd choose the one with Hope +4 Squad Size Limit +1 but it depends on the situation and your personal preference

[steel prairie]

ok I am having a existential crisis right now... when is it right to swap your VG for a Guard ??? because it seems like some VGS hit just as hard if not harder than your regular Guard... making it seems like its not worth it to swap

like on skill S3 Bagpipe hits so hard that it seems like she deals more dmg on elite enemies better than most regualr guards

[wary imp]

Take it button

[vocal leaf]

who are those guards? chen?

[steel prairie]

Chen, Blaze, etc etc...
But even then you have year 1 VG vs year 1 guards... like isnt Bagpipe also a Year 1 Ops ??? yet she hits harder than some other year 1 guards like Chen ???

and in some cases even Flametail hits just as hard while also being invincible for a few secons (dodge)

[vocal leaf]

then just don’t change or wait for them to die, chen and blaze are kinda dead

[limpid ore]

at least blaze is more alive than ch'en

[vocal leaf]

surely blazealter will revive blaze name in our minds right?

i rather get an off banner than blazealter

[steel prairie]

isnt Blaze Alter to regular Blaze kinda of apple to orange tho ??? one is a caster and when is a dps/defender hybrid

[vocal leaf]

yeah completely different, but i don’t want her either way 🚮

[steel prairie]

also besides Wishlash which has training bonus for Guards... anyone else has training bonus for specific class ???

[vocal leaf]

most of old welfares have that, some four stars too, but you mostly use irene/logos

[steel prairie]

oof dont have either Irene or Logos

also is succumbing to Ray rot just as bad as Wis rot ??? because for once I am no longer fearing of final bosses anymore (her back is gone from hard carrying)

[vocal leaf]

vigna matterhorn and contrail have 50% bonus for their class

[steel prairie]

ah ok

[vocal leaf]

do you know what they do? it’s insane, they cut a lot of training time, literally at half for m2 and m3

[steel prairie]

damn

[umbral dagger]

Her damage off-skill is cheeks, though. She can do some decent laneholding against weak early mobs, but off-skill and with only block 1, she won't do much.

Don't get me wrong, I love Bagpipe more than most, but she really does not stack up well to most Guards because she is entirely reliant on her skills to hold the lane, given her low block and low damage offskill. Compare that to Thorns, Mountain, Blaze, or any newer guard and they are much more consistently able to take down medium to higher defense enemies, with better range or utility and higher block count.

Early on she'll be a monster because...well...any 6* will pretty much obliterate the early game. But once you hit about chapter 6, it'll start getting harder to just slap her down and leave her there (especially on S3). Mind you, you said you're using Ray, who's high DPH will punch through a lot of the high DEF enemies that could cause you problems, taking pressure off Bagpipe.

Ultimately, the farther you get and the more you build your roster, the more Bagpipe is an early lane holder (S2/S3) or an assassin (S3+Module) rather than a core laneholder.

[next wigeon]

If you need more burst dps?

Vgs are mostly QoL

Its just there for comfier runs

[haughty flower]

I know this guy was the one who has the raised mulberry, did he double down and also start spamming vgs thinking they were laners?

[umbral dagger]

One of the wildest things for me to learn when I started down the AH/Aegir team path was that...the game...really doesn't pressure you much at all?? I used to run FlagPipe all the time and thought it was critical and now it takes some real annoying gimmicks (Inudi Horakhet's NO DP GEN) to make me sweat a bit.

[haughty flower]

When you're able to cut down your opening core to just like a handful of ops, yeah, DP requirements become way less intensive. It's why vets usually only have like maybe ines in their squad most the time.

[lofty stag]

Knowing the guy, prolly

[haughty flower]

Newer players do actually need that dp gen, but once you start to settle into some of the more meta, powerful ops capable of just getting on the ground and putting in work or just straight up learn how to work the early game, you realize that most the time you can just sit back and chill.

[proud bluff]

That was the start ya, had like 4 vgs in their team, stating you need 60+ dp to open

[haughty flower]

I think he got infected by the quadruple charger guy that showed up here and started saying shit.

[umbral dagger]

Admittedly, having a 12 DP, 2-block, global Medic on AH does change the calculus When the new Laterano units drop in a few months I'm looking to do a Laterano team and no VG + no Medic will be an interesting challenge for me.

[proud bluff]

But i mean most stages you can open by dropping a random guard/defender, at least in gen content
Or even if you can't, one vanguard is enough

or you know, ela

[next wigeon]

Well ya

[somber falcon]

newbie only "needs" vg because that's what the tutorial taught

[next wigeon]

We have 374 ops in CN and 354 ops in EN in total

[somber falcon]

even low rarity stuff on e1s can just be deployed just fine on gen content

[next wigeon]

So the combinations are so many

[haughty flower]

Elite ball knowledge is when you realize noir corne can replace pioneers half the time

[next wigeon]

Good thing for you is that Exu2 and Exalt have Self Sustain

They can't really die if played right

Minus Exalt on High Diff IS but eh

It is what it is

[umbral dagger]

"If played right"

ur askin' a lot there

[next wigeon]

[umbral dagger]

But yeah, FedEx gonna feature heavily.

I am...uncertain how to handle Exu2 because...she's technically not the Laterano faction from what I looked up??? But I also expanded my AH team to just be an Aegir one sooooo I'll probably include her.

[next wigeon]

S2 for Tanking, S3 to fast deploy other things

[haughty flower]

Exu2 is most certainly laterano

[next wigeon]

Ya

[umbral dagger]

The Wiki has lied to me

[steel prairie]

for me its just that for example Bagpipe S3 last pretty long and also pretty fast to recharge (not the fastest recharge of course.. but fast enough most of the time) compare that with like Blaze skill which takes FOREVER (she is L7M2 now and it still feels very slow)
Others like Chen needs to hit someone to recharge... where Bagpipes recharges regardless (same with Flametail S3)

[haughty flower]

It's Exu1 that was PL and even then pretty sure she got hidden factioned into Laterano

[proud bluff]

we get hidden factions with exu2 banner, so while she's penguin, she's also laterano

this is exu2 btw

[umbral dagger]

Good to know, thanks!

[haughty flower]

Oh exu2 also PL

[steel prairie]

Fedex lmao

gonna call her that then

[umbral dagger]

FedEx is Executor the Ex Foedere

(Federicco is his first name)

[next wigeon]

Flametail is not that good tbh

I have her built

[steel prairie]

nah he is a delivery guy now with GUNS... just like the Founding Pope intended

[proud bluff]

Flametail is a base warmer 🥱

[somber falcon]

flametail is fine

[next wigeon]

I'd rather take something consistent and not gamble on the chance of her dodging

[steel prairie]

she is good for me but awful in auto battles because of her dodge RNG LMAO

[proud bluff]

Dodge rng is saved and seeded

[steel prairie]

but in manual gameplay she is really good... ended up tankier than other guards LMAO

[somber falcon]

she isn't tankier

at all

[next wigeon]

She isn't

That's just the dodge talking

[steel prairie]

I meant that she feels tanky... ik its her just dodging... still better then not getting hit

[next wigeon]

Still iffy

[steel prairie]

its best to NOT get hit in the first place... this applies to every combat games essentially

[proud bluff]

Yeah, until she gets folded by a red dog

[steel prairie]

red dog ???

[next wigeon]

The only dodge i feel is kinda reliable is the one from Hoshiguma

[steel prairie]

wait she can dodge ?? HOW ???

[next wigeon]

25% chance to Ignore Phy Dmg

[maiden hound]

kit

[steel prairie]

a dodging Hoshi is probably the most cursed thing I can see her doing now LMAO (she is huge... how tf you miss her LOL)

[maiden hound]

just dodge

[next wigeon]

At least Hoshi won't fold when the dodge misses since she herself is tanky enough

Unless said dmg is Arts

[steel prairie]

ah yes... Im a reunion sniper and somehow I cant hit a whopping 6 ft women with a gigantic ass shield or smth WHEEZE (ik she is close to 6 ft)

also Hoshi being agile as fuk while also being a tank.. is very terrifying ngl... if I see that imma just surrender and pray

[maiden hound]

ok

[sick flare]

I've never understood the hate for vanguards in here but that's probably because I don't have any units of high enough quality to just trivialize most maps as soon as they get deployed

[haughty flower]

I have choice words to say but I suppose there's no good choices.

[haughty flower]

Oh, basically the top vanguards both shut down a lane and gen the dp you need to get everyone else online on their own.

[proud bluff]

There's no hate for vanguards
Simply opportunity cost in team building, you're balancing using a better unit versus generating dp

[haughty flower]

So you need less of them when you get better ones.

[steel prairie]

for me I love VG since they make things less stressful (most of the time)

[proud bluff]

Some of the vanguards are doing both

[next wigeon]

No hate but the opportunity cost is better on more dps

[steel prairie]

Vulpi is really good at both... finally E2 her and it paid off

[somber falcon]

i don't hate vanguards
I just hate people who pointlessly insists they're indispensable in a team because "you need dp"

[haughty flower]

They're eating spots in your squad that should go into other utility and DPS. They only increase stress when the difficulty goes up a notch.

[sick flare]

I could use my next best DPS instead of Myrtle, but my next best DPS is not very good and probably has high cost

[maiden hound]

but my ines

[steel prairie]

the weird part is that Vulpi S3 doesnt show her increase range for some reason (unlike other dps like CHen whill show her range)

[steel prairie]

isnt Ines still very good ???

[next wigeon]

She is

She ain't leaving the Meta Team anytime soon

[maiden hound]

the joke is that she isn't just a dp generator

[proud bluff]

No ines is bad, ardanis told me

[steel prairie]

bruh

[haughty flower]

Ardanis and his takes on certain ops can go and eat dirt.

[steel prairie]

I need Ines to spot those pesky Armorless Union snipers which I HATE

[next wigeon]

Most Vgs are a dead weight when you already got your stuff down

[somber falcon]

using the next best from bottom dps is kinda on you

[sick flare]

what do you mean, what else should I use other than the best DPS I have?

[next wigeon]

Nothing is getting past 99 dp anyway unless its Annihilation

[haughty flower]

Most annis don't even need you to do much redeploying unless you feel asleep and forgot to press skills at like 350/400 or something.
Which is understandable, they're a snooze, but you get my point.

[steel prairie]

why not go overkill on DP so you dont have to worry about the dp shrinking everytime someone dies or utility cost ? (like Silence drone for example or blocks)

is there such thing as "overkill" in AK ?

[maiden hound]

eh just use myrtle

[next wigeon]

Wis'adel on General Stages

[somber falcon]

next best implies it's only a step above myrtle

[haughty flower]

Because again, they are eating space on the squad that could go into other utility and DPS, ops that kill enemies before they kill you or ops that keep everyone alive and buffed.

[steel prairie]

Saileach ???

[sick flare]

next best as in, the best DPS unit I own that is not currently in my squad

[proud bluff]

Why would you need that much dp when you can use normal dp generation just fine
Ela mines cost more dp than silence drone (because you use them more often) and it's no issue

[steel prairie]

lmao same

[steel prairie]

those are the mines that takes time to set up right ???

[sullen rover]

adrinus

[haughty flower]

Even in low end clears you'll see on yt, you'll notice they typically bring at most 2 vanguards. Their focus is on using low end tanks and ranged DPS to slowly chip away at enemies safely, and will have ops dying less than your average clear most the time.

[steel prairie]

for me its just depends on how many lanes you will encounter

unless you have a VG with a 1 block like Bagpipe

[haughty flower]

There's a few exceptions, such as talulah where more are brought in due to low end's lack of arts protection, but overall it's just one of many examples of why multiple vg's isn't typically a must especially as you progress.

[proud bluff]

no you drop them, they explode if an enemy comes next to it

[steel prairie]

oh wait you mean those claymores ones ???

[somber falcon]

all mines are just drag and drop

[proud bluff]

ya

[somber falcon]

any more time spent on it is a you issue

[steel prairie]

isnt the mines like on Patriot stages take time to charge ???

Im meant like those mines

[somber falcon]

op mines

[steel prairie]

those Claymore stun mines yeah I get those

[proud bluff]

Ela is a trapmaster, i'm not talking about stage mines

[steel prairie]

ah ic

[haughty flower]

Guys, this man levelled mulberry because he thought she was good at raw healing.
You're going to need to explain better.

[steel prairie]

bruh I can raise Mullberry ok ??? is that a issue with you ??? she has good range and thats what I mainly use (also chapter 11 requiring elemental heals)

you cant place Silence drones if someone is already using that tile as well

[haughty flower]

I'm going to guess the message above is a rationalization. No, she's in fact not worth it, and most players clear arc 2 without ever even touching elemental heals.

[elder flume]

depends what you call overkill

[haughty flower]

Honse

[steel prairie]

bruh they get an ACTUAL horse ???

[steel prairie]

how about you keep your opinion to your self ok ??? also if it works it works - Half Life 2

also either way both might get replaced... got Nightingle on the celebration banner

and Saria for gound healer is almost done

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1UAMxzRE1o/?spm_id_from=333.1387.upload.video_card.click

hmm wonder if its replicable rn

[haughty flower]

I'd assume so, given it's tied to lappy's mechanics from the looks of it and some fuckery with resetting damage instances to have them keep triggering.
I'm not exactly sure what he's triggering here, though-my chinese is too rusty. Is he abusing the aoe arts damage and resetting the cooldown on it's trigger via having the enemy move around on the edge of the s3 hitbox?

[elder flume]

basically yea

since that is the requirement to do damage

[haughty flower]

Should be replicable then, but it's honestly kind of tricky for me to set up. Seems like a niche bug, of course until one day someone finds the perfect timing to trivialize a future boss using it or smth :P

[elder flume]

my CW is untouched i think

so cant zoom to Kirstn yet

everything low weight dies to full stack Swalter

i can lend someone E2 1 S3M3 Swalter ig if anyone wants to try

[haughty flower]

Unfortunately I've got no lappalt of my own so I can't do it.

[plain leaf]

What level do think IS4 is best at?
I am stuck at 12 for months.
So I'm about to lower level to collect ending and badge.

[narrow pendant]

Well, at max i suppose
Its a simply IS if u have the units for it and know it well
But realisticaly d10 is all u need

Since max score bonus

[scarlet mortar]

the best grinding experience is at d10, the best challenging experience is however high you can get

although in both cases you have to get over the initial hurdle of d0-4, which are annoying yet also punishing in terms of score multipliers

[scarlet mortar]

personally d12 was fine before they added RNG alt bosses

d13-15 jumped the numbers by quite a bit

[plain leaf]

At 11, I'd have to use muscle brain squad to clear.
I'll give 10 with more fun squad a try.
Thx

[narrow pendant]

Unironicaly, hardest is like d0

From like, d4 to d11 theres barely any difference

D12 jumps a bit just because of alt bosses

[plain leaf]

I mostly die from new map.
Barely survive to meet bosses.

[narrow pendant]

New map?

Wait are talking about is5?

Is4 hasnt had any updates since like, last year

[plain leaf]

IS5 is correct.
I count panel in game so I forget a doggo is IS1.

[narrow pendant]

Then nvm theres no alt bosses based on d like in is4

Its fine to fail new maps

Just, play, learn and then clear

[ripe grail]

How much aspd is enough for gnosis to apply freeze with only basic attack?

[narrow pendant]

Around 70

Exact number was 61 iirc but
More is always better

[smoky halo]

sus

[narrow pendant]

Among us?!

[south spindle]

wait mon3tr is like what 56 aspd potless

and 61 or 62 with pot

but i think with frame rounding you need like 63 ASPD to be under 1 second (barely)
62 ASPD on Gnosis seems to round off to exactly 1s which is suspicious

At that point distance matters too right

💀

[elder flume]

Ye

Tho as long as he can hit the enemy twice hes almost fine

[wicked minnow]

atp wouldnt it be luck based whether he freezes or not?

ak doesnt have a good track record with being consistent on frame-perfect things

[torpid prawn]

Is there a way for me to do the Rhine lab and AH EC missions while barely meeting the char criteria? (For AH i would need to ask for an Ulpianus).
The levels without the tailored ECs are challenging on their own
(Invisible snipers on boss stage or the huge def stat all around the other level), let alone with a quarter of the squad being fodder.
My char roster if its any help
https://www.krooster.com/u/angel-beige-pigeon-45dl

[wicked minnow]

it says 4 or more and 2 or more

you can do it with the minimum that it says there

that's what i did myself ye

[torpid prawn]

And the recommended stage is dossoles? Cuz i dont see the other level being any easier

[wicked minnow]

dossoles is relatively easy. the other one is pretty hard if you are running anything that's not like a full sniper squad

[steel prairie]

wait Wis S3 is physical right ???

[elfin elm]

Np it's art damage

[steel prairie]

oh ok then

was gonna ask who is the strongest AOE physical dealer

[elfin elm]

Oh

[scarlet mortar]

it's phys

with a side of arts

[steel prairie]

oh bruh........... so who has the best arts AOE then ???

[elfin elm]

I'm lost wis adel deal art damage and phys?

[steel prairie]

her Blast is phys but the thorns are arts I think

[scarlet mortar]

most of her damage is phys, but the shadow explosions and turrets do arts

[elfin elm]

Oh

[scarlet mortar]

oh wait nvm the shadows are also phys

[elfin elm]

It's why she's the strongest op

[scarlet mortar]

just the turrets then

[elfin elm]

My brain is not brainning

[narrow pendant]

Logos

[scarlet mortar]

erm logos is multitarget...

[narrow pendant]

Which is enough as an aoe

🫡

[scarlet mortar]

arts aoe is kinda.... ass? despite them having the next best thing i.e. arts mt

like yh it's enough targets in all cases that matter

[cinder pike]

wisadel just comes with free camo and cc by herself

[scarlet mortar]

good arts aoe is idk, doro or sth

[cinder pike]

she just have a broad kit while also doing crazy damage

[wicked minnow]

carnelian unironically

there isnt enough arts aoe in this game

you can wait and see how leizi2 does. we are suspecting that she's an arts dps

there's marcille ifrit lin

probably depeneds on what you are looking for actually from the current aoe roster. aoe arts isnt that relevant right now

[torpid prawn]

Managed to do the AH ec mission. But it was really difficult only cuz of the boss stage.
-Managed to get Totter to slightly counter the invis enemies -Spot with 3-2 buffs and 3 types of heal to stall the enemy.
-The biggest mistake was initially placing lapper on podencos place. That way she wasnt helping with the boss fight and would get 1 shot by the spear enemy leaving ulpianus to die.

[sly drift]

"I have enough!" Vs "I HAVE ENOUGH!!" If you have talon on hatred

Is this enhanced fight or something

Special and Dangerous battle

[dapper hedge]

Ya.

With talon there's more spine

Idr remember if duck spawn or normal but probably not

[lofty sundial]

is that consuming your talon

[limpid ore]

no

[paper juniper]

mno

[mild brook]

How to beat this?

[distant bough]

Put units down

Wait

Win

Might be the most free anni in years

[barren crescent]

How can i clear 6-5? My attackers are gettingnkilled by the ranged enemies

[wicked minnow]

certain units can just solo this stage if you just borrow

[barren crescent]

What if i dont wanna borroe

[wicked minnow]

mmmmm place high defense units to tank the shots of the dudes

[dapper hedge]

Then deploy your defender in place to aggro the bonethrower

[wicked minnow]

you can use 2 tanks to take the hits of the bone throwers and that opens up 2 extra ranged tiles for you

atp it should be free

[elder flume]

Ulpi S2 spawncamp grenadier
Myrtle S1
pusher for runners
Thorns Blaze Mlynar Chalter takes care of middle
healers on each side
the rest change to more laneholders or dps ops

[barren crescent]

Dont they attack latest placed ops? Wont they just attack my attacker if i do that?

[wicked minnow]

the throwers dont really move once they start attacking someone

their time between attacks is shorter than their attack animation

[dapper hedge]

They have pretty decently big range, your dps should be safe if theyre behind your defender

[wicked minnow]

so as soon as their attack finishes, they start attacking immediately after

basically he doesnt move from this point as long as he's attacking the unit i placed down

he still focuses last deployed it's just that he wont really be moving

[dapper hedge]

The stage is very simple, its actually one my fav stage early cause it rly wants you to know how to aggro range attack

[scarlet mortar]

the last berserker is also very simple

[wicked minnow]

i think this was like the simplest welfare-only 2-op i've ever done with bison and tinman but then i stop and take a look at arkrec and some fucker did the 2-op with sankta miksaparato and u-official

[maiden hound]

sankmik facing top end blue box?

[wicked minnow]

top blue box doesnt exist