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wicked viper
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since shift is just weird

elder flume
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Shift is kina evil if they know how volatile they can be

wicked viper
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i can simplify it by just say

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force 3 + force 4

elder flume
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Current PRTS did update my gripes tho regarding each operator having different shift values

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So good on them

wicked viper
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some of them are basically learning experience

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did you know, bind is the odd one out among the status effect

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because there is no specific immunity?

elder flume
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Ye its barely modifyable

left pecan
wicked viper
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like this

left pecan
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So is there even enemy with bind immunity ? And how would it even work

wicked viper
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bind immunity exist

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but its a flavor text, not a stat effect

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like this guy

scarlet mortar
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kristen is bind immune in p1

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if you try to bind her with rosa she just drags the wire with her

full terrace
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Freakin youtube be limiting daily uploads CeobeConfused

obtuse shale
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You upload videos now SoraWow

strange hazel
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(which is part of what makes ethan so broken)

full terrace
full terrace
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So that newbies can allocate their resources to where it matters.

bitter halo
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its time to do emergency BPCozy

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trim medal is no losses right ?

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cannot retreat after deployment . what does that even mean

full terrace
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No trim medals, there are secret medals tho

bitter halo
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oh right its the secret medal , i only did the first sss season ones

full terrace
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If you fail a stage once, the streak is gone and you have to restart from stage 1 again

somber falcon
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emergency only have 1 medal btw

full terrace
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Yah Emergency doesnt have Secret Medals

bitter halo
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wutt

maiden mauve
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Does anyone have clue why Shu is not able to teleport the boss in ep-ex-8

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Does her skill need to be S3M3?

scarlet mortar
maiden mauve
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Oh It’s M3 gap indeed

elder flume
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huh max S3 Marcille can 1 skill cannon

maiden mauve
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Time to find a friend LappDumb

obtuse shale
wicked minnow
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it's even cooler

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it has coldshot in it BlitzSmile

maiden hound
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q: why papyrus

elder flume
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Welp thats stage solved by itself

jovial nest
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can anyone give me more precise pointers why you'd use Tragodia's S1/S3 skills over S2?

still vessel
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S3 can 1 op Fremont d18 apparently

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And Is also the dmg skill

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Applies a cage that can stall too

narrow pendant
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S1 is just worse quibai s1, u wont usw it

narrow pendant
still vessel
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Damn how boken

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I don’t have virt so he’s gonna be one of my must pulls

jovial nest
narrow pendant
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What does not having virt have with him tho

jovial nest
narrow pendant
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Youd use s2

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Its s1 but better

jovial nest
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i have no clue why some players think all ele dmg ops should be under one umbrella

still vessel
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Idk I just thought 2 diff ele types would conflict

narrow pendant
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It does since only 1 can get triggered

elder flume
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Because they technically do

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Using Trag to proc Yu burn is funi tho

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Since Yu procs first

still vessel
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There’s ele prio?

elder flume
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Only 1 can happen at a time

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Whoever is fastest

still vessel
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Oh ok

elder flume
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And Yu burn is quite fast at burning

still vessel
jovial nest
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yeah since Yu's burn is from his S3 ATK multipliers + his stats

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so it's pretty high application

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and easily exploited by fast arts-proccing dmg like Reedic's S3 DoTs

still vessel
jovial nest
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Alongside Tragodia....I am now tempted to also include Yu S2 as well....

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hmmm, Shu S3 behind her is a decent way to stall as well but it requires more pieces and slots are tight.

narrow pendant
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I mean, shu is a better yu

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So

jovial nest
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it is a longer stall

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but stalling via Shu S3 is a 2-ops job to start it off

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need shu to heal an injured ops near/blocking the target (needing to drop Shu and make sure she gets grass on the target/s tiles is the harder part instead of Yu just pressing S2. Also the healing target has to survive or else Shu heals nothing.)

haughty flower
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Why's chilchuck in this squad anyways?

jovial nest
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just to get some grass under the target/s

jovial nest
haughty flower
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I don't think your team's so pricey that ines and cantabile can't fund it personally, though I do know you want to do CC with him if I remember right.

jovial nest
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its more like this squad's flavor is inspired by high risk CCs

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but it most likely won't be used there because high risk CCs demand a more tailored squad and not a "premade" one

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although yes

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raising Chilchuck is not a bad investment. His S1M3 does make bank on maps with idle enemies

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What masteries would you recommend for tragodia?
M6?
or just S2M3?

south spindle
jovial nest
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Yeah i think i might go for Yu S2 moreso.

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a way to compress multiple enemies into a smaller space for easier manipulations

narrow pendant
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Youll use s2 like 80% of the time however but

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Good to hav

jovial nest
eager geyser
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any tips for ep-8?

still vessel
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kill cannons ig

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p1 he gets dr around cannons

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p2 he gets dr if not blocked

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and if blocked in p2 all cannons start targetting blocker

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you could play around by rotating bodies

haughty flower
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Dashes only twice during phase 2, HP gated to every 1/3 of his hp.

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Plan around it and deploy blockers accordingly.

narrow pendant
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+0.02% hp

still vessel
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killbox not recommended since his aoe atk can splash onto other units so its best to not crowd

eager geyser
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so prio cannons first?

still vessel
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they are prio but not the first thing you should be doing, first make sure you can lanehold both sides then cannons

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also need frd for beer barrels

sly drift
eager geyser
still vessel
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ling spotted

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now go solo

eager geyser
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ling no module tho

still vessel
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tbh comp doesnt look too great for this fight

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might be better off borrowing wis and bringing 1 or 2 arts dps and blockers to cycle his p2 with wis

dusty cedar
sly drift
eager geyser
still vessel
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yeah but he hasnt played in years apparently

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might be better watching a guide due to how much time he has

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2 days left

eager geyser
still vessel
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im all for doing it yourself but in this situation it isnt worth the sanity or the effort due to constraints

dusty cedar
eager geyser
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the funny thing it, I try following a vid but still can't clear

dusty cedar
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You have blockers with Lin and the og trio dps

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So your comp isn't that bad

elder flume
haughty flower
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They're missing a lot of masteries and mods.
Still, with that roster the event looks more than clearable especially with a Wis borrow.

still vessel
dusty cedar
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Or he can cheese with Shu support I guess

still vessel
elder flume
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Damn i need to do things fast then

still vessel
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wtf

eager geyser
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I think I'll just accept that I won't clear it and prepare for the next event

still vessel
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is it your shiftknights shenanigans

elder flume
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Ofc

jovial nest
still vessel
# eager geyser I think I'll just accept that I won't clear it and prepare for the next event

This strategy is made by using really common operators and easy to substitute.
It's not essential to follow the steps perfectly.
Adjust the strategies a little bit for yourself to suit your own team comp better.

Arknights - Exodus from the Pale Sea:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNgrku2z_iBm-jZrDyVQZy44-PHIVUgzw

Arknights - Main Story...

▶ Play video
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low end clear with wis borrow and 3-4 stars

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you can replace the 3-4 stars with your 6 star units

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and it should be relatively simple

haughty flower
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What a banger CG to use as the cover.

scarlet mortar
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only reason i mention it is bc yu can't tp enemies if they can't path back

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aka it's just trolling

smoky halo
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1 op fermont isnt possible unless u gigaroll rng 🚬

still vessel
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it was done with relics so ig

smoky halo
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yawn emoji with relics 0 op is possible just have enough hp relics

haughty flower
smoky halo
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yeah bro u need to get good rng with the tp

haughty flower
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I smell skillish PodencoSip

still vessel
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🥀 just highroll

still vessel
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it doesnt create a tomb

full terrace
glass monolith
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Next event is Degen rerun so new players are screwed on boss stage again RedOmegaLul

still vessel
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come again?

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cant be worse than lappalt boss

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:clueless:

elder flume
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Worse

glass monolith
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Do you love boss skill which tied to timing and boss current position? DocSmile

elder flume
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Much worse

glass monolith
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Do you love having everyone die because you hit healthgate at wrong timing?

still vessel
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🥀

glass monolith
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I wonder how much of "I did just like guide, why I have different outcome" we will get HellaKek (Lmao for that one guy who couldn't realize SN boss phase respawn tied to where the previous phase died)

still vessel
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i'll figure it out somehow

elder flume
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As long as you dont trigger invincibility bug should be fine

still vessel
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the what bug Bnuuy

elder flume
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He procs phase 2 but phase 2 iframes last forever

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So you are softlocked

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As he will eventually get to bluebox

glass monolith
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After this bullshit I don't trust in my bug less abilities

elder flume
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Double mark is normal dw

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Been there since the start of first mark stage

vocal leaf
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even that timing with texas ulpi

glass monolith
vocal leaf
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i don’t even desync, it was mostly at the beginning

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like the typical thorns missing one hit, but i always try to fix that and it works

vocal leaf
glass monolith
vocal leaf
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you’re pretty safe if you borrow nightingale tho

glass monolith
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You underestimate how bad I am at this game DocSmile

still vessel
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I started during lappalt event

vocal leaf
glass monolith
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Look me cope Platinum as oven igniter on boss stage

vocal leaf
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well i cope harold with harold HellaKek

glass monolith
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Huh I didn't spam event related screen shots during event last year

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~~Memes about it being Kristen with slightly less DR FrankaWheeze ~~

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All I remember is that snowball dudes are assholes and 1v1ing Humus with the army knife

full terrace
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I remember baiting the hell outta snowballs 😏

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Watch me Lappcaster S1 those furnaces later

glass monolith
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Watch th- Minus is frozen

radiant plinth
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this game

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i swear to goodness

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needs to stop doing that

glass monolith
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I don't even understand what it does which you don't like HellaHands

full terrace
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He is showing the world his skill issue HellaKek

narrow pendant
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That stage is kinda tough tho

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For his usage

radiant plinth
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-100hps

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stupid fart

glass monolith
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Wasn't it 50 per stack, are you trying to glitch boss for double damage? DocSmile

radiant plinth
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challenge mode

glass monolith
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Super secret ending leak HellaKek

radiant plinth
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true

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why does it say mission failed

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._.

jovial nest
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welp that's Silberhezerne rerun confirmed. Wonder how Harold holds up against the new ops.

shell arch
narrow pendant
still vessel
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0 braincells / 10

narrow pendant
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Also the lags and low quality brings it to -1/10

shell arch
narrow pendant
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Nope

still vessel
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get a j*b

narrow pendant
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U fund me nian and ros spark

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And i'll consider

shell arch
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I have a job. Unfortunately you won't understand adult responsibilities as paying b*lls in 3rd world country WarSmug

still vessel
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paying b*lls 🥀

narrow pendant
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Just steal

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🥀

glass monolith
narrow pendant
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I was a new player back then

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🥹

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And still managed to clear whole event

glass monolith
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I was new player during DH. I somehow beat boss guideless. Entered EX-1. Seen pre-existing boats and quit

shell arch
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I am also new WarSmug

still vessel
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uncs smh

sly drift
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Isn't this too soon chat? IfritSweat
IS bros?

still vessel
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hand of fireworks

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is it good or nah

narrow pendant
jovial nest
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they designed it so the final update is the investigations. So Ed4 and Ed5 came earlier. and investigations/explorations were added separately

jovial nest
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it's at least better than newbies' experience with OD first run EoE

glass monolith
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First action of newbie with Wis will be triggering all 4 bombardment within 10 seconds

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Assuming Wis alive after first 2

jovial nest
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it's a lot easier to salvage

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compared to EoE normal stage's 4 lanes

glass monolith
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Fair more or less

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At least normal EoE can be bombed in finale

jovial nest
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heh, bombing the last phase took a bit of necessary timing since the bombs can be killed by EoE's pulses

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need 2 dropped ahead of time for a clean sweep

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but imo the difficulty there was for a newbie

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having the entire team lane well while keeping up with heals was very demanding

scarlet mortar
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(and then EX-8 removes that issue by leaving a free camo tile)

jovial nest
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Ex-8 can just be timed out anyways

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that was the plan anyways

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until the rerun wherein we have so many options to attack it

scarlet mortar
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OD-8 was pretty uncontested as the hardest stage of its time

jovial nest
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it required specific laners too

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since tumors shat on most ground laners

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one of the few times AoE ranged/ground ops shined

scarlet mortar
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well the idea is to force you to bring ranged ops to clear

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the deploy cap was raised to 10 for it

jovial nest
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the start was always rough

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demanding on DP

scarlet mortar
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turns it into a resource check too since it means your ranged dps, medics and ground ops all have to be levelled to not croak

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fucked up

jovial nest
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need 2 well leveled medics as well at least

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for each side to keep alive

serene umbra
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It's EP8 and how to kill the boss ? Especially in phase 2, and make sure the boss doesn't run away🥲

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This is my squad

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Maybe I should replace Courier by Elysium

timid nacelle
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u can freeze him
push him into a whole via weedy
tp him back with shu
can also use 3 defenders to block him with a medic

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since u have to switch blockers twice

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a lot of things work

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hmmmm

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what other units do u have raised

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melantha should be kicked out by now
plume too

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but u have both cuora and gummy pretty high level

serene umbra
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I don't have Shu-

timid nacelle
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kill p1 he teleports to the spot he goes to

serene umbra
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Oh

timid nacelle
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it's fine it's not mandatory

serene umbra
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Oh

timid nacelle
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and block him a second time untill second dash

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u need to drop him 33% for each dash

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don't try to 100 to 0 him

timid nacelle
serene umbra
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One medic is enough too ?

timid nacelle
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but p1 just wait for him to come to the otherside
he has fixed tp spot when dyin dirst time

serene umbra
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Ooh

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Okay

timid nacelle
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no get another

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also be careful about position

full terrace
timid nacelle
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his aoe range is confusing

serene umbra
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I'll try with team

timid nacelle
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bring courier ig

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second medic instead of mudrock

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or instead of zuo

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shouldn't be much of a difference

serene umbra
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Oh

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Okay !

timid nacelle
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also I am not sure how much mastery do u have on ur e2 units but make sure to do that on the important skills

elder flume
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His skill is quite straightforward
Highlight 1.8 radius from him
Prioritize operator with less elemental buildup
Fire at that operator and that op's surrounding 8 tiles and repeat until 10 shots have been fired

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Every 20s

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And phase change

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People just dont understand it because they dont try to status him RedOmegaLul

serene umbra
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Who ?

timid nacelle
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the boss

serene umbra
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Oh

timid nacelle
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it's the irene s3 like skill he does

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shouldn't be much of a problem with the amount of power u have on ur units tho

serene umbra
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Yep

shell arch
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How do beginners find EP-8? Hard?

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Thank god I have virtuosa nymph tech ReedBean

full terrace
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Nah, borrow Wis it's easy clear

serene umbra
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Well enough DP to deploy each operators😭

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It's not so hard but I'm not strong enough😅

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And I'm not even a newbie😭I almost succeeded

neat mantle
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man the H12 stages suck. The problem isn't even Damazti its the damn collector disciples

full terrace
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Your air unit is lacking then. Mlynar, Wisadel, and friends handle them just fine

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H and S stages are generally dps check

dapper hedge
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Contrail can 1v1 them MudrockNaruhodo

noble pewter
shell arch
noble pewter
shell arch
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Wdym brain
You don't need brain to copy a guide

noble pewter
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the old school way of stalling n slow kill n redeploy whole team on diff sections of the battlefield

shell arch
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Oh TexasBlob

noble pewter
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ppl would just borrow a wis n clear easier n faster

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unless u r newbie n want auto deploy then they can try that method

full terrace
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No way you are recommending 3 Stars auto, that thing took 15+ mins to finish

elder flume
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Youd be surprised at the amount of people that cant follow a guide

full terrace
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It's possible doesnt mean it's efficient

glass monolith
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My first DH-9 clear took 40 minutes TexasBlob

neat mantle
full terrace
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😏

cinder cliff
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got a question and is how u get this 1 i alredy try to sink them on the hole and the salt from some reason is doenst count me and is the last medal that im missing = ='

glass monolith
cinder cliff
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im doing on regular

elder flume
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Your ops prob killed them before sink then

cinder cliff
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not on practice

elder flume
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Somehow

full terrace
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You deploy powerful ops they'll get killed before they sink

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Killed ones dont count

glass monolith
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Also "hole" Is not sand RedOmegaLul

elder flume
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I cant say anything else unless theres a recording

full terrace
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I remember

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Struggling to keep my dps under control

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Coz modern ops be killing everything before they sink

cinder cliff
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.-. i think im stupid i read ex omg i want to kill me i wasted all that sanity

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i want to die = ='

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4 real -.-

neat mantle
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Are the H stages in chap 13 harder than chap 12?

glass monolith
serene umbra
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I'm still struggling like a newbie

noble pewter
glass monolith
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H13-4 is absolute dogshit

serene umbra
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😭

scarlet mortar
serene umbra
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Seriously I hate this boss

agile ember
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when is content expansion 2 coming for is5

neat mantle
scarlet mortar
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if you're fine with it then ch13 shouldn't be too bad

cinder cliff
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i think susurran slow is good option right?

neat mantle
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I could definitely deal with h12-2 if the dp limit isn't 20.

full terrace
glass monolith
full terrace
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Checks you even harder than H12-4

scarlet mortar
full terrace
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But then again if your ops are broken its nothing special

neat mantle
elder flume
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Just use skills that stops attacking tbh
Slow is fine if your ops dont attack them since Suzu amplifies damage

glass monolith
scarlet mortar
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i mean yh it does suck

full terrace
scarlet mortar
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just saying it could be worse HellaKek

agile ember
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When is is5 expansion 2

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Wait wrong chat

glass monolith
neat mantle
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Ngl i thought i was gonna have trouble with the damazti cluster stages in the H12 stages. Turns out I'm perma stuck where they're not even in it 💔

glass monolith
agile ember
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😭😭

full terrace
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If you already struggle on H12-2 you'll have fun on H12-4

shell arch
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What's ch12 mechanic again? Amogus + papers please feat. "Myrtle is too op so we limit dp" shenanigans?

glass monolith
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Chapter 12 DP limitations activated my "Triggered" and I just fucking AH it from top to bottom

scarlet mortar
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still waiting on that H12-4 duo

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H13-4 got cheesed with ling exfed so fast

cinder cliff
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thx i got the last medal im for real stupid i freaking read ex omg i think i have ptsd from last event x.x

glass monolith
cinder cliff
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me no xdd was saving for the next event

glass monolith
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Mostly because Blood knight is asshole who B line into blue box 5 second into stage

cinder cliff
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welp lesseon learned build more defender for this type of event x.x

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and read more

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= ='

neat mantle
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executor alter?

scarlet mortar
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yh

neat mantle
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He's good in chap 13? I feel like he's been on the backburner for like chap 11 and 12

glass monolith
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Did you touch chapter 13 grass yet?

neat mantle
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Nah im trying to do these h stages

glass monolith
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Reapers are decent for chapter 13

serene umbra
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But how😭the boss killed my Wisadel

glass monolith
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Anti camo splash damage SoraWow

scarlet mortar
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aoe hits camo

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for once wis does not escape boss bullshittery

neat mantle
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I need either mlynar, thorns or exia man...

serene umbra
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Yeah

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Maybe I should replace her twice

glass monolith
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I did Typhon S3 + blockers DocSmile

serene umbra
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Let's try again

scarlet mortar
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you can just bait the boss's skill elsewhere

serene umbra
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Yeah

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I hope I'll get my 3*

glass monolith
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Bait "hit everything in my range" SwireKek

neat mantle
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Does the abyssal hunters have a marksman?

glass monolith
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Andreana Gladiia

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No markmen

neat mantle
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Next ah even for sure

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The buff will be "all abyssal hunters gain +1 range"

glass monolith
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IS Archetto is AH, noted

neat mantle
jovial nest
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did this happen to you guys? got kicked out. loading errors when i tried to enter back

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and now it's reloading the entire latest update?

glass monolith
neat mantle
glass monolith
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Good, here 2

halcyon adder
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Shu pretty broken against this boss

agile ember
vocal leaf
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can you believe that in 115 pulls i got only 1 6star? at least i will have the 6star pity for tragedia HellaHands

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or monster idk if will try to get her

serene umbra
eager geyser
vocal leaf
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oh yeah it is, i see the third cannon

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kick zuo le and shining for gravel and other bodyblock

vocal leaf
serene umbra
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Amen I finally succeeded

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With this team

elder flume
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Not 12 ops ExuHyperStare

vocal leaf
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you shouldn’t be struggling with that in the first place, but congrats ReedBean

haughty flower
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What is this modless lineup.

lofty stag
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Erm actually

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Gummy has mod

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Soooo gummy sweep

haughty flower
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Shut up S*pah

vocal leaf
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it’s crazy no myrtle in that team, she fell off, courier mvp SoraWow

serene umbra
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Yes I didn't use Myrtle this team😅

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But I play her !

serene umbra
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I need to continue the main story to unlock some modules

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Soon👍

full terrace
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Here is a Low-End Clear for EP-EX-8 but with double carry (Wisadel-Shu), at first I recorded a Wisadel only carry clear but then when I looked at those Low-End guides out there, the play is essentially the same: by throwing bodies at the boss to stall, and then Wisadel shot him while he is blocked by a body it's very monotonous. Because of redundancy reasoning, I deleted the recording and decided to show you how to clear using different method under the condition that you have either Wis or Shu. Again, if you are super new and own neither, you can always search for a Wisadel only carry Low-End guides out there, they are all essentially the same guide.

maiden hound
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arf vs kyo

elder flume
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Arf vs Lowy soon

stray spindle
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Any best way to deal with constant bomber drone?

full terrace
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You bait them

glass monolith
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Air-air/ground-air missile. But due lack of useful weaponry in AK likely casters (Or some sniper with big ATK skill) while someone (likely 2+ gravel) sacrifices themselves to bombardment

serene umbra
twin sedge
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Aight i've tried my best but i just can't beat ep-8 of exodus so i'm gonna ask help from here

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The boss keeps one-shotting all the units i have and i can't do anything against it

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Sometimes he does stuff i can genuinely only describe as magic whenever he somehow one-shots narantuya from the otherside of the map even though she isn't in the range of any enemy at all

elder flume
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Its better to show your placements for others to know your situation

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Generally boss has 1.8 range

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And every hit covers 8 surrounding tiles of the op targeted

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So dont group them up

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Thorns Fang prob ccould be someoke better

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Generally Gravel is used to bait

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Ray doesnt do much without E2

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Amiya goes either S2 or S3

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Sussuro goes S2

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Oh you have Red E1

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Can perma cancel his spin in p1

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Nymph strat is also viable where you fear him to salt n he sinks ij p2

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Your goal is basically kill cannons before boss kills you

twin sedge
narrow pendant
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Garbage phone discord, vid wont even play

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:realmad:

twin sedge
#

Nymph isn't leveled, don't really have replacements for Thorns and Fang yet- i mean i can give you my character list if that helps-

full terrace
#

For details about mechanics, read what Rain typed for you

elder flume
#

Your Naran is dying because boss has a skill that enlarges cannon hit radiuus

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Its hitting Naran

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And eventually when boss gets to other side shes prone to getting hit by spin

elder flume
#

I think Nymph E1 1 works for fear purposes?
Never tried her

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It will be rng where the fear takes boss to but other than that it requires good blocking for after he enters salt hm

twin sedge
#

Wait if inflicting fear makes him sink into the sand wouldn't technically laptop work?

scarlet mortar
#

the RNG isn't too bad tbh

#

well with lapp you could just outright kill him

elder flume
#

If you can have her hit from the right direction and can make him go to salt within 4s yes

twin sedge
#

She gives 3 seconds of fear with her ability right?

elder flume
#

Outright killing is also possible with Lapp2 yes

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Especially with Wis

twin sedge
#

Wait lets plan around that then, since i already have a pretty well built lapp2 (besides her module sadly)

elder flume
#

Just have Wis do the same as shes doing and Lapp above or under

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Her wolves should direct to leftside

twin sedge
#

Would this be enough?

elder flume
#

Ye

scarlet mortar
# elder flume I think Nymph E1 1 works for fear purposes? Never tried her

i mean it doesn't take much
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elder flume
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You want to block where the cannons are hitting btw

scarlet mortar
#

EX-8 but just for showcasing

elder flume
#

Boss gets 80% damage reduction in phase 2 when unblocked

twin sedge
#

No i mean how can i block them-

elder flume
#

Lapp should kill cannons with the wolves
Hopefully

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Might have to stall boss on left side a bit

scarlet mortar
elder flume
#

Then you can put ops in previous cannon range

scarlet mortar
#

so there's no situation where he reverses and gets closer over the fear duration

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the RNG's saved so you can just drop the body at the end

twin sedge
#

Saria and cuora with skill are the only units i think that don't get immediately one-shot by him and that i have somewhat built, should i pair them with a healer and try to stall him?

elder flume
#

Just have Gravel bait spin on left side tbh

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And block the barrel men too

scarlet mortar
#

any defender will get oneshot eventually

elder flume
#

Youre tanking 3k atk barrels with Thorns kekw

twin sedge
scarlet mortar
#

his main deal is the corrosion procs, his dph without corrosion actually gets walled off by most E1 defenders

#

what you need is to keep swapping defenders

elder flume
#

When the boss does the spin animation yes

glass monolith
scarlet mortar
#

"so that was a fucking lie" - gravel, probably

elder flume
#

Sussuro S2 on off skill Cuora can survive spin + cannon

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I cycled their skill durations but just changing defenders is easier

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Since he basically removes 100 def every spin

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Normal non Lapp runs waited for boss to walk on sand before bursting cannons btw

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If Lapp isnt killing cannons

glass monolith
#

I remember how people hyped Eyja elemental heal... While i looked on Eblana casually doing 1200 elemental damage on EX HellaKek

elder flume
#

Can put Lapp on left side after boss leaves

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And just burst top cannon + stall boss on right side

twin sedge
#

Sooooooo i should gather the units with fast redeployment type, maybe 2 healers, borrow Wis, get lapp2 on the left side after he leaves, and just try my best to destroy the cannons before he kills me?

glass monolith
#

I gracefully stole Weedy hole strat.... After which i killed myself by Ange-ing summoner dude and Seal with cannon

elder flume
#

Pretty much

#

Cannons do too much damage

#

Tanking that and spin is death

#

I can prob just simulate a close enough run

twin sedge
#

I'm happy that this is the last stage of that event for the full deco set, becuz this was pain, if i was to do it without wis i would still be on ep-4

narrow pendant
#

Now ex stages
Chop chop

#

🥹

twin sedge
narrow pendant
#

🥹

#

But but
Op, and and first clear currency

twin sedge
#

That currency can kiss my ass and i'm waay to early game to worry about op problems rn

scarlet mortar
#

i mean the currency is what'll get you out of early game

#

events are where you get like 80% of your resources

twin sedge
#

I'm on 4-7, that's what i mean...

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With early game

scarlet mortar
#

main story stages don't mean much nowadays

#

actually ig they never have meant much

twin sedge
#

Resources?

scarlet mortar
#

side stories are always more efficient

elder flume
#

Is this close enough LappDumb

scarlet mortar
#

you do main story stages when there's nothing else more efficient to farm, e.g. when the event is a vignette

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although for built players that's when they go grind AP stages for red certs

twin sedge
glass monolith
elder flume
#

my Saria Cuora are E2 M3 so cant use them

#

my Bassline at Ezero

scarlet mortar
elder flume
#

ig i have Nearl E1 max to simulate Saria

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but thats alr Gummy so eh

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maybe Gummy does too much damage

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Nearl it is

twin sedge
#

@elder flume maybe my character list could help with deciding who to pick-

stone sparrow
#

Alrighty: Theoretical baseline team prior to adjustments based on node: LappAlter, GoldenGlow, Yu, Shu, Bagpipe, Ines, TexAlter, ExecutorAlter, Kalt'sit, Mon3tr. Any good members to fill for the last two slots?

#

I mention theoretical baseline as essentially main team to use with changes being made to suit nodes that the team won't work well with.

elder flume
#

Bison Nearl are basically Cuora Saria

#

ngl Steward might be better than S3 Amiya

#

he ignores shield taunt

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and Amiya doesnt even kill before retreat smh

#

for medal just activate Lapp skill before killing last bridgemaker

twin sedge
#

ts is not new player friendly

scarlet mortar
#

1-7 isn't real

elder flume
#

if Arf strats suit you more you can use his

#

my playstyle is more on the reactive side and not much planning

twin sedge
#

welp

#

didn't 3 star it but a win is a win

#

im gonna crash out, i died to a last invis enemy who wasn't blocked by gummy

wise idol
#

I gave up on EX-7

narrow pendant
#

Want to see you friday for harold

#

It will be a wild time for any new-ish

dusty cedar
#

Time to bully Harold again

glass monolith
#

Will Minus manage to Quartz stall rerun Harold? BlitzSmile

#

(Probably not)

full terrace
#

Why I dont remember Harold being tricky at all

#

A lot of people are saying it's hard

dusty cedar
#

Cuz if you don't read the stage mechanics properly he jumpscares you with Harodillion wide area damage and nuke your ops

scarlet mortar
#

he has a fuck you button if you don't keep the ovens on

#

well ok he triples the one fuck-you button he has

#

which will probs kill newbies

dusty cedar
#

Also dmg reduc

#

Everybody loves dmg reduc

full terrace
#

Modern bosses be having DR thats pretty common

#

If it doesnt have at least 80% DR it's not a boss nowadays

dusty cedar
#

True

scarlet mortar
#

also he attacks quite bigly

glass monolith
#

I have weakness to timing. Also when i block him in slightly wrong place and he turn off not 2 ovens i calculated for stall. Or when i activate his health gate at same time he uses oven disable which blocks ovens from being attacked for few seconds and i can use igniter only on one (assuming i still left any)

dusty cedar
#

Even worse with dmg reduc they get stupid fat hp

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So even if you do let's say Mon3 or use elemental you still gotta repeat it a few times if they have like S+ hp

narrow pendant
#

He gets more Per unlit furnace

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Each unlit furnace is also 1 extra snowball nuke

dusty cedar
#

Bruh I wonder if Rose Salt can counter that

elder flume
#

You still die in 1 frame if you take too much

full terrace
#

Ah Harold medal set is so ugly

dusty cedar
#

But to think that maybe it could work

#

Just gotta put a fast hps medic in there or something

next wigeon
full terrace
#

Ikr

dusty cedar
#

At least the ost is 🔥

next wigeon
full terrace
#

I think the coolest set is still Phantom IS

next wigeon
#

She can nullify the nukes

full terrace
#

Man that Ruby is so beautiful

next wigeon
#

Shiny metal

scarlet mortar
#

oh yh wis also doesn't avoid harold's nuke

#

for once HG decided to make it aoe and not mapwide targeting lmao

full terrace
#

Harold does Arts no? I dont remember

scarlet mortar
#

phys melee

#

the nuke is arts yh

full terrace
#

Yah I remember the Arts part

#

Wis will survive that, she has crazy high res for some reason 😏

scarlet mortar
#

suspiciously yellow glow in the bg

next wigeon
thin rain
#

does anyone have a damage calculator out there - trying to figure out if exu+sham can solo boats

dusty cedar
#

Harold sucks but his ost slaps tho

dusty cedar
#

Then dmg/attack interval for dps

next wigeon
full terrace
#

Best ost are the ones created by Kirara Magic SoraWow

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And urm.. the Lappcaster event

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UNTIL YOU BURN IT DOWN YOU'RE JUST AMBIGUOUS MORALITY

glass monolith
#

(Me burning Lappalt with Stainless S3 because "it is enemy, so it do burn now")

next wigeon
#

Boss ost

full terrace
#

Oh you like that kind

#

I like Kirara Magic's the most

next wigeon
#

Hmmm

dusty cedar
full terrace
#

Shu's ost main lobby

#

HS

next wigeon
#

I also like Stultifera Navis Boss ost

full terrace
#

And Eyja's ost main lobby

azure roost
next wigeon
#

Eyjaberry Lounge Ost

full terrace
#

So Long Adele

dusty cedar
#

So Long Adele ost was so comfy

full terrace
next wigeon
#

Plus the Merciful Broken Sun

full terrace
#

HS event is also Kirara Magic's work

dusty cedar
#

Oh guys what about

full terrace
#

Love em so much

dusty cedar
#

Kirsten boss theme

#

In Lone Trail

next wigeon
#

That's a good one

full terrace
#

Ergh I dont like Lone Trail bgm

dusty cedar
#

The shuttle countdown 🔥

full terrace
#

😒

next wigeon
#

I also like the Hortus De Escapismo Church boss music

twin sedge
#

finally i beat it on 3 star

#

@elder flume i thank you from the bottom of my heart, genuinely

#

it took me about a full hour to beat this

thin rain
#

is the aspd formula a = 100/(([100+x]/b)+y) or a=100/((100+[x/b])+y)?

azure roost
#

grats

full terrace
#

Meaning some extra aspd can be potentially wasted due to frame upload rounding

#

Watch Ancool's video for this

#

Normally this is not an issue at all, but in some specific cases like IS, the frame can potentially make you waste a few Ingots

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Meaning if you play optimally, you can save these few Ingots

#

Btw the max aspd buff you can get is +500%. With the base 100%, the cap is 600%.

glass monolith
#

It is hard coded or something? I just assumed operators hit frame bullshit cap at +500%

full terrace
surreal star
#

there's plenty of ops who have long atk intervals so +500 aspd wouldn't really take them into super low frame ranges

south spindle
#

is it always rounded

#

or is it floored/ceiling?

surreal star
#

should be rounded

south spindle
#

some of the longest intervals are 2.85 with 600 aspd is 0.475 rounded to either 0.466 or 0.05

crisp bolt
#

yeah aspd is hardcoded to never go below 20 or above 600 iirc RosThink

south spindle
#

if its rounded down thats effectively 610 aspd

#

by frame rounding

crisp bolt
#

oh you talking about frame rounding. Yeah I don't think it's hard coded

glass monolith
#

My phone disassembles before game engine anyways so it is not very relevant to me HellaKek

south spindle
#

need pc client to have uncapped frames

#

to justify a 5090

#

so i can infinite stack aspd

elder flume
#

0.05

south spindle
#

too bad even on mobile 60 fps is still 30 frame round

glass monolith
south spindle
#

hardware issue

glass monolith
#

Brain issues on Windows dev side if they make their auto update center lock down CPU for 10 minutes straight... During "Don't auto update in this time frame" fucking period!

distant bough
#

Also performance most likely gonna be ass

glass monolith
#

Well it all depends on how well they optimize their port

distant bough
#

Oh yeah, I meant rn if you wanna play

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Have to get an emulator

glass monolith
#

Fuck emulators

#

I know emulators consume resources and i know for Linux it is "haha code yourself" likely HellaKek

distant bough
#

Well then you're just not playing on pc until the port drops 😭

distant bough
#

And you have the Linux shenanigans

#

You know the "Haha you wanna play arknights, go recompile your kernel fucker ^^"

south spindle
#

yeah there aint exactly alot of emulators for linux
on the side note i tried to get something to work on my M1 mac during my turbo addiction phase
realized people don't make emus for M chip macs then I noticed android studio existed
very slowly made a device on android studio, installed arknights incredibly slowly then opened game logged in, crashed on home screen 1 second in
never got past that 🥹
fuckass arm chip

distant bough
#

Kinda Linux bs

royal rose
#

Is there a way to make Anastasio less of a roiling tumor?

#

When Oyuki breaks out Wis’adel, then the boss must be truly cancerous

remote perch
royal rose
#

Or am I going to have to start commissioning gore of this piece of shit fish twinkle?

royal rose
#

He starts phase 2

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And then spazzes out exploding my backline

#

There needs to be an operator that can disrupt bullshit mechanics

#

Against anastasio he snatches him out of the spazz out and rips his heart out, then feeds it to him

glass monolith
#

Shu teleport him to BRAZIL and then he forgets his salt walk warrancy has expired and dies of cringe

remote perch
# royal rose How?

Use Shu s3 to mark him before he transition into Phase 2 so he gets teleported back

So just block him while he's walking in Salt so he teleport back to Salt

glass monolith
#

Anastasio is name of boss, right? i didn't read him name HellaHands

royal rose
#

Dawg

#

My team died

#

He teleports

#

And ignored Shu skill

glass monolith
royal rose
#

Entelechia event?

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Or Harold

glass monolith
#

Harold

royal rose
#

Harold is a tumor

#

But he’s not as much of a tumor as the fish twink

glass monolith
#

I have no fucking idea what Ente event even was

royal rose
#

Just look at this shit

remote perch
#

I just AH his ass lol
Not really hard

royal rose
#

Wis, Shining and Arturia got Thanos Snapped

glass monolith
#

Time for plan B - Weedy cheese Fear cheese

haughty flower
#

Why was Wis in his range anyways.

#

Pretty sure there's a few spots bottom side where you can keep him well out of range.
And Arturia range is kinda horrid for this particular boss when not on s3. Unless you have a clear plan for how to keep her alive don't put her down.

tepid mica
#

How can I clear EP-EX-8 with these operators?

full terrace
karmic mist
#

personally

#

lappland does all the work for me

scarlet mortar
#

shu has a distance req for her tp

#

which EX-8 just barely allows

twilit tendon
#

You also need Shu s3 m3

elder flume
#

Nah even SL1 is enough prob if you block top

twilit tendon
#

But if you block top you have like one dps solution due to the range and that’s wis

elder flume
#

Blockshift

#

And you open 3 tiles more

#

His phase 1 only problem is spin anyway which gets countered by stun freeze levitate

#

Red S2 is 19s cooldown on 20s skill

#

Gnosis S2 in 14s

#

Irene on 3-12 attacks

#

Cliff S2L7 in 19s

#

Bibeak

#

Ash

#

Lots of options

scarlet fulcrum
#

Knowing that guy he probably activate shu skill during phase transition, which doesn't work in en

full terrace
#

Activating her skill during phase transition works just fine

scarlet fulcrum
#

Oh they make it back, cresson time then

full terrace
#

Idk about Cresson but for this particular boss, it works just fine

elder flume
#

Ye it works for after death

scarlet fulcrum
#

Im not using shu for this event tbh, so idk. More like not using 6*

#

Yeah tested, it work

#

Also on ex-8 if making him stand on very edge of sand he will not teleport back cause less than 2 tiles

#

lower skill lv need to adjust it like Rain said

lilac steppe
#

Hey2 any guide for EX 8 CM, with only 1 carry? I can only borrow Wis, or Shu, or Ulpi

elder flume
#

Im not in office yet

#

Youtube should have Wis solo carry no

haughty flower
ashen knoll
#

Wonderful. I can't do anything until i redeploy Sliverash or wait till he moves SkadiDaijoubu

#

These guys are such a waste of time

elder flume
#

Ex7 moment

azure roost
#

pro

elder flume
clever hedge
#

that's a pretty cool enforcer use case ngl

smoky halo
#

enforcer my goat

lilac steppe
#

And this is the squad that i use for that stage.. i borrow Wis / Logos, and did change the team comp a little bit

#

Sometimes Amiyamed, for true damage to cannon

elder flume
#

but why true if zero res thonk

lilac steppe
#

Eh, its zero res? Ahah..

elder flume
#

can your Vulpis kill rocketteer immediately

#

who handles left side

somber falcon
#

ines can kill him if m3

lilac steppe
#

My ines is M3, but i rotate her around

#

Right side i use Exalter, but the skill cycle difficult to plan. Ive struggle with phase 2

#

Sometimes i put thorn for left side..

haughty flower
# lilac steppe These are the built ops. Still have resource to build 6 Stars if needed

Honestly, this looks like a brute force w/ Wis'adel to me. Have her on on right side facing up and relatively isolated from the boss.

Phase 1, have Saria block with Lappland Alter s3 doing DPS. This should 1 cycle. At this point, prep Mylnar a little bit off near the edge of Wis'adel's range. Use Surtr early to remove 1 cannon, and your first Lappalter S3 or some arts dps to remove another.

Phase 2, pop Wisadel skill ahead of time. First blocker: Saria. Have a healer on her if need be. Activate Mylnar skill, drop Surtr once he dashes. This will procc the second dash whereupon he gets stuck between Mylnar and Surtr, and sandwiched between Surtr and Mylnar while under fire from Wis'adel's final few s3 shots, he should crumble.

lilac steppe
#

So, phase 1 is on the top side right? And i need to retrieve Saria, and put it at the bottom side to prepare phase 2?

#

My cuora is well build tho.. i mean, should i use her?

haughty flower
#

Phase 1 is his first HP bar. During this time, the only annoying thing is that he has DR near cannons.
Cuora is another great staller, her high def neuters the boss. If you have space you can bring her just in case of emergency.

lilac steppe
#

Oh, if i can only kill 1 cannon on 2nd phase, should i prioritize left side?

haughty flower
#

Actually, typically you can ignore cannons during phase 2 because of your extreme DPS.

#

You have the capability to melt the boss within less than 30 seconds of phase 2.

#

Just have a healer on their skill ideally and you should be alright.

lilac steppe
#

Problem is my laneholder in leftside... it cannot hold without healer, and healer usually get killed.

haughty flower
#

Vulpis dies without a healer?

#

What exactly is she dying to?

lilac steppe
#

She is still low trust level

sly drift
#

Enemy proc corrosion. Vanguard can't hold it Bnuuy

lilac steppe
#

Ah yea.. corossion

haughty flower
#

She can self heal with talent and has relatively high DPS off s3 though.

sly drift
#

La pluma S1M3 can solo hold it though.
Retreat it during you stalling boss then redeploy it to reset def

haughty flower
#

I can't see why she'd fail to hold.

lilac steppe
#

Maybr my mistakes is i activate her skill to get DP, not to kill

#

Ahaha

haughty flower
#

Try and cycle her skill to kill enemies, that should help keep her alive.

#

Her s3 is remarkably good at trash clear.

lilac steppe
#

Cool2.. let me try these out.. thx a bunch for the wall of text

haughty flower
#

As a summary note, do cuora lappland alter to start. Then shift to Wisadel + Saria, Surtr, and finally Mylnar.

#

Vulpis holds left, whoever you want tbh holds right. Uh...right. bait the barrels! Use gravel and bait them. They hurt.

#

And obviously, kill the seal with the cannon on top at some point.

lilac steppe
#

Takeaway: Vulpis definitely need help. Thorn can solohold right.

Wisadel and Lapter (right down) killed by Aoe Attack, how to avoid it anyway?
And Surtr, i dont know why i felt she died before her timer ends when i try to sandwich the boss.
As for healer, i felt ptilopsis range doesnt suitable to cover phase 1 defender on top right. Maybe ill use purestream?

left pecan
#

U cool with that ?

wicked viper
#

@left pecan which one this time then

left pecan
#

I only submitted twice no ?

#

First one was without the part in ()

wicked viper
#

well which question do you need insight on

left pecan
#

Prob the environment damage one

wicked viper
#

basically

#

some environment are actually coded as enemies or device

#

AS crystal tile are coded as stationary unblockable enemies

#

cocoon is also enemies
same as SN

#

while altar, host assistants are actually device

DT pot is coded as devices, but the hunger mechanic is blood lost mechanic, which means its none of the above

left pecan
#

Wait so AP stages and Chaos stage in is5 also has the blood lost mechanic ?

wicked viper
#

your SA answer is almost close

#

no

#

those are actually environmental dmg

#

coded as true dmg every 0.5s

maiden hound
#

do you have the quiz link

wicked viper
#

i will accept the SA answer, since the numbers can be within -+5% error tolerance

maiden hound
#

time to get -15 points

left pecan
#

For ray question i prob fucked up the defense calculation part, possibly putting the scaling after the defense part, and honestly i just gave up half way through the base question

maiden hound
#

can't wait to flunk my arknights ap

wicked viper
#

basically just ([base atk]*(1+sum of atk buff)+(inspire))*[product of all atk scale]-[def]*(1+sum of all dmg scale)

left pecan
#

Oh damn thats how inspire work

#

Yeah i fucked up that part as well

wicked viper
#

its a flat atk up at the end

#

maybe i can do another one

left pecan
#

Yeah when i checked wiki it said base stat so i made a horrible decision of adding it on the base atk

wicked viper
#

featuring shining

left pecan
#

Maybe after 27th

#

I need to do my grad test

elder flume
#

Doing AK quiz while graduation ceremony

left pecan
#

Whats the answer for the base question btw

left pecan
wicked viper
elder flume
#

Oh i was close

left pecan
#

I was close...if the answer was only with proviso

wicked viper
#

i dont know how to make the form accept number answer within -+5% error, so it is what it is

left pecan
#

This is only for 3 questions btw

#

Left is the base, right is the ray

wicked viper
#

for the ray question

#

seem like you forgot to include heidi pot

left pecan
#

833 is the sash one

wicked viper
#

she give 8% atk with mod3

left pecan
wicked viper
#

but 9% with pot6

left pecan
#

Like i legit forgot to read the thing, and yk the horrible inspire buff

wicked viper
#

this is brain nourishment

maiden hound
#

is the answer accepted if i round it to the nearest million

left pecan
#

For virt i honestly don't really know what is the supposed answer, so then i just came to conclusion that u only meant the necrosis proc throughout the skill duration

azure roost
#

mmmm

#

what you doing guys

wicked viper
#

its basically so

maiden hound
azure roost
wicked viper
#

virtuosa mod3 can proc necrosis 3 times in total

azure roost
#

oh quiz?

wicked viper
#

but if you assume 12k * 3, you will be wrong

azure roost
left pecan
#

I didn't actually

maiden hound
left pecan
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I knew u only meant the 40 sec so for the last proc it only deals like

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40 - (2 + 15 + 2 + 15 + 2) = 4 sec

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So like 800 x 1.05 x 4

wicked viper
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virtuosa s3 take 3s to proc btw

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also when her skill end, the enemies are outside her range, therefore the 5% elemental fragile no longer apply

left pecan
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I calced into around 600 elem dmg per sec so i thought it would proc for only 2 secs

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I hate myself SkadiDaijoubu

haughty flower
# lilac steppe Takeaway: Vulpis definitely need help. Thorn can solohold right. Wisadel and La...

Here's the setup I'd use in a brute force method once phase 1 is done. Replace Lumen with Purestream s2, Vina with Surtr, and Nearl with Saria. Note only Mylnar should start deployed-bait the first spin attack with like gravel or someone else in Nearl's place. They're just deployed to show you where they go.

Surtr goes down after the first dash, splitboxing him back into Saria. Mylnar should be on skill. Just keep rolling along and maybe have Ptilopsis on the very right on s2 to support Surtr and Mylnar. That should work.

left pecan
wicked viper
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yes

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total

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not in 40s

left pecan
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Yk i was also debating that conclusion

wicked viper
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some question are intentionally vague

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also the question is per cycle

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not just per duration

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meaning it account for the time after too

left pecan
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So the total damage should be 12600 + 12600 + 12160

wicked viper
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no

haughty flower
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you are forgetting that the elemental fragile is part of her talent 2 effect, which is amplified by her s3

left pecan
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Why are we calculate arty damage?

left pecan
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Chis i don't feel nourishment i just feel dumb

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Which i already have been feeling so so it kinda just

wicked viper
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dont worry

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relatively speaking, you are about average score

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the highest is 25

lilac steppe
haughty flower
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Cuora puts in work for this boss, fortunately.

lilac steppe
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Kill anastasio just few tiles before blue box.. fiiuhh

left pecan
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Anastasio kinda dies against high def, so not surprising

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My jessicat doesn't even go below half hp after the initial spin

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So i can share the quiz around now ?

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oh you mean the quiz, not the result

left pecan
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Ye but i was about to ask for it anyway

wicked viper
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you can if you want

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but its still wip

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will make a new version with different question later

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it may or may not be easier

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we will see

left pecan
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Depend if u want to please the pleban of reddit or not

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Ur face is gonna be on reddit btw so just gonna say it first

haughty flower
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Face?

wicked viper
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oh then dont do that yet

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i want to have a complete ver for reddit

left pecan
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Aight

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But this version is fine for friendgroup and other discord servers ?

wicked viper
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its prob fine

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but normally they will confirm their answer

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but if im not there, i cant confirm that for them

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unless

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i have the answer sheet

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which i havent created yet

left pecan
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Hmm, i'll hold on to it for now

magic stone
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Anyone feels like the EX boss stage of this event is a complete joke ? Its so hard if you dont have meta operators

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Especially the challenge mode

narrow pendant
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Not really no

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Theres tons of low ends

glass monolith
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Difference in strategic approach DocSmile

full terrace
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Fun fact: on my first attempt blind, I didnt deploy Wisadel

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Still won tho

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Boss is susceptible to stun on Phase 1, you can abuse that

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Then if your Arts dps are strong enough, you can destroy the Cannons

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Destroying the Cannons = Phase 2 tank stalling is now possible

magic stone
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I fr took like 5 hours to finally get full medals 😭

full terrace
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Then there is Surtr's immortality as well, plenty of options

magic stone
timid nacelle
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dk I can't feel threatened by stages anymore when I steamroll in 2 tries at most with 12 meta units

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the last stage that took me more than 5 tries was like h12-4

elder flume
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Red is in Kernel and no longer in 5star selector so rip phase 1 cheese

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no one will try perma stunning him RedOmegaLul

full terrace
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I used Texas 😏

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S3 is constant stun too

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Plus damage

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Texas alter*

verbal harness
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gr i hate ex8

unkempt lintel
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ok

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cool

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next querry

narrow pendant
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Ex8 hates u too

south spindle
narrow pendant
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:realmad:

verbal harness
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would i rather birng sutr or hoshiguma as support

full terrace
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Bring Wisadel as support