strategy

[full terrace]

Yah I dont dislike the DP cap

[glass monolith]

Looking at past year on CN we reached point when HG just give you nuke and says "go have fun"

[weary grotto]

Opinion on miksaparato blemishine combo?

[teal moon]

schizo

[dapper hedge]

Blemi in the big 2025

[void terrace]

Is thorns s1 worth it for exealter and future reapers

Or should you just use skadance

[lost rapids]

anyone knows a scource where i can pre plan for the upcoming cc3?

[glass monolith]

I will just wait for one of those guide makers to make some brainless 3* and weedy for trim medal because i have 0 hype for that trash

[sterile delta]

no because thorns alter s2 is his main skill and gives hp regen too
and if an enmity needs heal support you're using them incorrectly to begin with

[lost rapids]

welp, i am really looking forward to it

[glass monolith]

[south spindle]

For operators to build and what no you can look at arkrec for what was popular for high score clears
Notably, people build chilchuck just for CC3 since he has immunity to the the enviornmental effects

[lost rapids]

yeah, saw that. problem is, that i dont have chilchuck. i meant something like a stage simulator or smth like that

[sterile swan]

Depends on the range Thalter needs to heal and if you need that attack buff, and if you can't afford time to charge up Skadi Alter
Thalter works best (and is better than Skadi) when all your ops are in a 3x3 range so if that isn't possible he may falter, especially when S1 isn't masteried.

[glass monolith]

Understandable

[sterile swan]

@void terrace
But yeah people are generally correct in that if you need an enmity healer, something's going wrong in the defense

[glass monolith]

Or you know niche people being niche and cooking

[south spindle]

stage simulator

would be one hell of a tool

theres tomimi and arkmap which show when enemies come out when for maps

[lost rapids]

yeah, there is something like that, problem is cc 3 is not included

[south spindle]

but no stage simulator

[lost rapids]

f

https://awedtan.github.io/stage-viewer/ i mean i saw this which looks pretty awesome, but it lacks cc 3

[south spindle]

https://map.ark-nights.com/areas/crisis_v2_season_3_1

i thought my stage simulator you meant some sort of sandbox tool

[lost rapids]

ty, was pretty much looking for this

[lost rapids]

oh, then my bad xd

[south spindle]

but it makes sense

[lost rapids]

yea, its more or less my first cc where i actually want to go for a high score

[void terrace]

I like using exe alter but hes capped at what he can take

[sterile swan]

If you time S3 decently he can tank a lot of damage, he just takes a bit of thinking in that department

[void terrace]

True but thorns alter makes his survivability quite insane

Its almost the equivalent of gavailalter with a healer

[jovial nest]

...using Mudrock again against the boy wonder boxer

[hoary ridge]

laughs in mudrock with bard support being the most optimal tanking option in most circumstances
muddy benefits plenty from thorns alter's s1. stack it with skalter's s2 and she's unkillable.

[tawny slate]

hello may i know walter best skill in this stage agaist flower runner and the best place for her?

[proud bluff]

methink s3 left of the blue box facing down
Wait for actual IS players opinion or ask #is-station

[tawny slate]

okok noted, i'll just put her next to blue box

[sterile delta]

what in the fucked up strategy is this
in no world is this remotely "optimal"

for mudrock specifically, the only place where using her to legitimately tank things is in is5 ed2 stall, where even there its scuffed and not as optimal as shifters/shu/true damage options

"tanking" that requires three operators is a joke

especially when it hardly matches up to using an actually healable brick like hoshi/nian or even cuora paired with a normal medic

thorns s1 + skalter s2 barely reaches 300 hps in terms of raw healing
when even a mod1 cuora by herself surpasses a mudrock with skalter + thorns s1 def buffs in terms of raw def, and silence with drone at e2 lvl50 surpasses both of their healing combined with greater flexibility of deployment

really questioning your logic here

[jovial nest]

lets not even start there

if we're talking real optimal stuff

like....considerations to d15-18

you wouldn't even see a single bard to waste hope on outside of Eureka

[sterile delta]

i wasnt even considering the hope economy because i was wracking my brain trying to think of difficult event/story stages where mudrock was the solution

you wouldnt be drafting thorns alter either given how contested the spec ticket is and how little he solves

[jovial nest]

I recruit Tin Man just for toil limit purposes

and i still wouldn't try to use his S2 to heal un-heal-ables

[sterile delta]

well yea, tin man is just a toil limit slave haha

him and my 10 billion sprouts

[jovial nest]

if there's a slot open, I'm still bringing him

but the moment i get anything more worthwhile, he's kicked

[haughty flower]

I bring him as my primary healing source until I get a healer ticket.

I normally get unlucky with healer tickets and won't have a proper one til like f3 or even later so he's fairly handy for that.

[jovial nest]

outside of maybe IS2

most of my starter squad choice is always def, sniper, caster

so at least Spot/Gummy's there

although yeah

[haughty flower]

Talking IS5

[jovial nest]

you do not want them to carry healing that much later

and I'm talking IS2-IS5

[haughty flower]

That's the only IS you blow spec tickets on tinman after all :P

[haughty flower]

IS2-4 he may as well not exist.

Spot takes his early floor healer role for a nice 0 hope. Also blocks.

Well, 0 hope unless you're an IS3 weirdo.

[jovial nest]

high diff IS3....you actually want to use 1 hope just to get Spot

the 3* cost 1 hope. relying on temps

goddamn old af difficulty modifier

[vocal leaf]

that day when tinman saved a burden beast from dying poisoned

tinman is also nice in that f5 zw stage

[steel prairie]

ok I need to stop leaving this hanging...but its another fukin boss... how the fuk I beat it ? (is it Hanfred ??) this is 10-17 btw

[jovial nest]

i have my ways on ZT F5 map

[sterile delta]

manfred, use true damage/dodge ignore if you want to ignore his mechanic
otherwise, you need to hit him with the cannon then damage when hes vulnerable

[vocal leaf]

manfred playable when

[steel prairie]

wait he is also sometimes immune to cannon dmg ???

[haughty flower]

True damage is somewhat straightforward here, Nearl Alter should comfortably tank both the cannon and Manfred with a healer.

[sterile delta]

no, cannon is true damage and disables his dodge when hes hit

[steel prairie]

I dont have Nearl Alter tho

[haughty flower]

Borrows.

[vocal leaf]

nearl alter in 2025

[steel prairie]

oh ok... errr anyone have Nearl Alter as support ???

[sterile delta]

good thing this isnt a 2025 stage

[steel prairie]

there has been a shortages of people setting Nearl Alter as support

[sterile delta]

ntrk was a good solution to manfred back in cc10

[steel prairie]

even tho she is so fukin hot.....

[sterile delta]

nearl alter, kaltsit, nymph + virt, schwarz/pozy all make short work of him

[haughty flower]

Kal then.

[steel prairie]

I can try Kal sit + Schwarz and Ray

[haughty flower]

I don't like her as much but she's a fine option.

[sterile delta]

kaltsit by herself works

[steel prairie]

Mon3ter that tanky ???

[sterile delta]

pretty much

[vocal leaf]

kal x schwarz would kill even faster

you have schwarz tile there

[haughty flower]

Crackship /s

Anyways the rest of the fight is basically just dealing with the occasional elite down the main path.

[steel prairie]

yeah I fukin hate those elite enemies

[haughty flower]

So long as you have your ways of dealing with the worms to keep block count down too, you'll be fine.

[steel prairie]

chapter 10 really wants me to commit mass warcrimes on Sarkaz vampires lol

[steel prairie]

also when you guys mention Shwarz I assume you guys mean E2 Shwarz ???

[haughty flower]

Chat I just realized why does standard environment 10-17 actually look more annoying than adverse.

[glass monolith]

Boss stage? Because it is

Adverse boss don't have stupid leeches

[vocal leaf]

i think it’s easier, both seems fine

[glass monolith]

It sends harder version of slimes in packs of 6 but that's different story

[steel prairie]

wait adverse doesnt make it spawn those warms ???

it actually changes the enemies ?

[glass monolith]

Different layouts often changes enemies

[steel prairie]

oh ok

[vocal leaf]

i actually have an old clip, me using amiya as buffer 🥹

oh and exia too, to proc schwarz talent

[steel prairie]

oh thx

can someone explain why the arty is pointing at Mon3ter ??? shouldnt Flametail have a higher block count as of right now with the worms on her ???

or even Bagpipe ?

[prisma ledge]

Uh

[lofty stag]

Bag can have 2-3 block based on how many slugs there

Flame tail 3

Mon3str

3

Mon3tr was last deployed and hence the one targeted

[prisma ledge]

I am pretty sure both VGs are still blocking 2

[lofty stag]

Hmm

Well bag can be max 3 then

But then flam would need to be 3 as well

[prisma ledge]

Time to reread my chapter

[lofty stag]

Closer inspection indeed flame is block three

Cuz only one slug is blocked

[prisma ledge]

oh

[steel prairie]

dont the worms make your Ops count go up by 6 ???

[lofty sundial]

that's literally what he said

cuz only 1

[prisma ledge]

Yea, each one of them increases block count by +1 up to 6, if they hit the Op. Although rn, there's "3 blocks" on the screen (Flametail and Mont3r) so the cannon just prioritizes the last deployed. Correct me if I am wrong.

[steel prairie]

ok this feels super off now... according to the Arkmap.. Manfred should be moving to the left first.... but now he is moving up... is this a bug or it changed ???

he is moving up first

instead of left

[cedar needle]

Make sure you are looking at normal mode instead of challenge mode on arkmap

[lofty sundial]

reading moment

[prisma ledge]

Adverse has different layout as well

Tbh just use Practice Papers and save ur sanity and try to beat it yourself if u can't beat it on first try. Figure out what went wrong, learn from it, and have better/consistent strat for that stage.

[steel prairie]

I cant find anywhere to adjust from challenge to normal mode on Arkmap ???

oh wait nvm

[steel prairie]

actually that mode does look easier

oh wait it forces you to start over

[steel prairie]

is this one of the few levels that the adverse mode is somehow easier than the normal one ???

because that layout looks way easier to manage

[vocal leaf]

it’s about the same, you can spawn kill manfred in normal mode too with schwarz and kal, blocking the sarkaz at the very top is better imo, before they split in two lanes

[vocal leaf]

in chapter 13 also happens, for me adverse is easier

[steel prairie]

ok so here is my main issue... while Bagpipe and Flametail can hold their own... Kal sit + her pet consumes a lot of dp... so much so by the time Arty goes in and kill my VG... I start out with 0 DP left to defend

I realize Kas sit dp cost isnt really 19... its 19 + 10

[prisma ledge]

I feel like you gonna need some DPS to back up your VGs for a bit, then Kalstit later

[vocal leaf]

where your flags? do you have cantabile?

[steel prairie]

so technically Kal sit dp cost is 29... which is alot

[steel prairie]

yes yes I do... also I was thinking bringing in Mrytle... but wouldnt she leak the worms since her dp gen stops her from attacking ???

[prisma ledge]

I haven't done 10-17 Standard (have done Adverse Mode a loooongg time ago). So I can't really tell

[prisma ledge]

It's the fact that u get to place other units down faster

[steel prairie]

ah ok... but even for me judging from the map layout the Adverse somehow looks way easier to manage (I hate the fact you have to guard the top)

[vocal leaf]

a flag should never be blocking anything, you should have enough time

[prisma ledge]

Okay holup

@steel prairie whats ur squad vs 10-17

[steel prairie]

this is what facing them right now

on standard mode (so any newcomers trying to help wont get mixed up facing adverse)

[prisma ledge]

Oof no true dmg on Kalstit since shes not E2

[steel prairie]

getting to E2 is a pain in the ass lol

[prisma ledge]

It is indeed a pain in the ass, but generally worth it for 6 star unit

Uh hmm

[steel prairie]

yeah ik... it just takes a while

[prisma ledge]

What's your roster atm? Sort by rarity/levels.

[steel prairie]

in terms of whats built these (I messed up early game... hopping Ops on who to prioritize first)

[wary shuttle]

aren't you running really low on medics

[steel prairie]

I am… but most people told me not to build anyone besides Silence really since they say Silence has high healing stats

[prisma ledge]

Aight I think you might try something like this for 10-17 Standard)
3 VGs (Bagpipe Flametail Texas)
Kalstit but dont deploy Mont3r, use it ONLY to bait the cannon attack. Mont3r has 3 block count and has way shorter redeployment time, so retreat and bait over and over again.
High AOE dps
Blaze to charge up her skill and do AOE dmg and hold the lane
Decent medics
One Sniper to snipe two enemies that charge the cannon (top left corner of the stage)
One Fast Redeploy to bait/reset the boss's attack speed since it stacks when attacking the same unit

[steel prairie]

And by medics are you excluding defender medics like Saria ?

[prisma ledge]

Problem is they are 3 block, and while they do their job flexibly, they kinda uh, accidentally become targets for the cannon lmfao

[steel prairie]

Yeah ik that

[prisma ledge]

they heal ur Ops and also kill ur Ops simply by blocking

[prisma ledge]

Which is why I suggest u try to fit ur lineup around this

[steel prairie]

Its just some people group up “medics” with defenders that can heal

[prisma ledge]

Especially Mont3r one

[wary shuttle]

circumstantially you should have a few backups

[steel prairie]

Ic

[wary shuttle]

at least to cover different situations, i.e an aoe medic or something

[prisma ledge]

U will need a support unit like medics to help you out as well, it looks like ur roster has decent DPS I think.

[steel prairie]

Another issue with the medics is that I am forced to go almost out of their range so they dont get caught in the cannon aoe

[steel prairie]

Yeah because most people told me to focus and E2 the dps first

[wary shuttle]

have you tried dropping bait units

[prisma ledge]

That is also a good recommendation. U only start getting support units like medics or something like that once ur lineup starts to become really solid in damage department

[prisma ledge]

I have also mentioned it too @wary shuttle

[steel prairie]

As of now not yet (have tried on earlier levels)

I might try it

[wary shuttle]

I mean with that level of dps couldn't you spend a slot on it

i.e use noir corne or somethign

[steel prairie]

Hmm

[prisma ledge]

Unfortunately I dont have the same units and levels that you have @steel prairie , cant record how you might complete it.

[wary shuttle]

if you can get away with laneholding using block 1s yato would actually be pretty useful, though idk if thats feasible with all the slugs

[prisma ledge]

Blaze is E2

[steel prairie]

Yes

[prisma ledge]

Just charge up her skill and the slugs will be dealt with

[steel prairie]

And Blaze can tank atleast 1 hit of arty

[prisma ledge]

She can but the Ops around her will die

[steel prairie]

What about the 3rd lane ? (Total is 3 lanes coming at you)

2 forward and one top lane essentially

[prisma ledge]

I mean, lemme just playtest 10-17 Standard Mode and see how everyone works and moves.

[prisma ledge]

I'll figure out a plan with this lineup in mind

[wary shuttle]

angle her down?

[steel prairie]

Btw is adverse overall super hard ?

[steel prairie]

Yeah I can do that… but still need 2 Ops to block the worms

But I see what you mean

[wary shuttle]

also, maybe look at the kyostin clear for ideas

[prisma ledge]

Actually I think I got an idea

@steel prairie Holup

[prisma ledge]

@steel prairie create a lineup around this

At the start, immediately DP print. Idk how strong ur early-game DP gen is, but u need to get all VGs down asap. 2 in the middle, one 2 block to hold the top lane. Then AOE dps, including Blaze. Then medic (preferably AOE).
After that, use cheap sniper to kill 2 enemies that charge the cannon at the top left corner. Then retreat the sniper. Then deploy Kals'tit and time your Mont3r deployment to bait the cannon attack.

[vocal leaf]

tank everyone at the left like this

[prisma ledge]

Oohh

I didnt think about that ngl

@steel prairie U should probably raise Myrtle to E2 and level up her S1

[steel prairie]

k

[steel prairie]

btw wdym by AOE medic ?? (like how Saria S2 heal ??)

[prisma ledge]

Perfurmer, Ptilopsis

[steel prairie]

oh ok

[prisma ledge]

Saria S2 can work, but Im just worried about her 3 block count accidentally killing your team

[steel prairie]

ik lol... I was wondering "how the hell a medic AOE heal" lol

[prisma ledge]

We have different classes in medic

AOE, single-target, chain healer, harmacist, that sorta stuff

[steel prairie]

ik... its just most typically heal one at the time

[steel prairie]

wait chain healer ???

[prisma ledge]

Yeah

[prisma ledge]

Ye, it just bounces lmao

[steel prairie]

oh that exist ??? wow (never seen one lmao)

I do see bounce heals in many games but just not in AK yet lol

[prisma ledge]

I have to check it out and make sure im not tripping myself

[south spindle]

They’re bad minus upcoming 6* one Mon3tr

[prisma ledge]

Honestly

[steel prairie]

oh wut ??? I thought the upcoming Mon3tr is a dps (its a dragon right ???)

[prisma ledge]

I just recommend at least one or two decent single-target medics then one AOE medic and raise them up to support your DPS roster

[steel prairie]

ic ic

[south spindle]

Her S3 is like Kaltsit S3 - true damage

Just HG being quirky

[steel prairie]

Kal sit is their favorite child lmao

[vocal leaf]

here the boss killing that blaze had mod tho, stats can make a difference especially when tanking the cannon, also kal range maybe a problem you can always use a regular def i didn’t use her skills anyway because yours is e1

discord is so laggy today, that take years to upload

[steel prairie]

the fact that even Rays normal shots can take out 25% of Manfred hp with ez while Chens sword only tickles him is so sad lol

[south spindle]

Yes yesr 1 operator vs like one of the best doses in 2025

[steel prairie]

my best run was able to get my Ray in range and even without her skill she drops Manfred into 50% range already just left me dumbfounded

[steel prairie]

I get why powercreep exist ingame but I didnt expect it to go this hard lol

[prisma ledge]

We have Wisadel

[south spindle]

This is nothing compared to a lot of games if you didn’t know

Also Chen was always sketch tbh

[vocal leaf]

you have to hit manfred after getting hit by the cannon, don’t forget he dodge

[south spindle]

But then again most dpses at the time are all long dead

[steel prairie]

well I always thought W and Wis are exceptions since they are favorite child... but the fact that Ray only needs like 5 shot to make him go 50% is just... wow

[south spindle]

W is ass lol

[steel prairie]

yeah yeah ik I read that in the wiki

[steel prairie]

wait really ??? on release ???

[south spindle]

Ray 5 shots Patriot period

[steel prairie]

yeah ik that one

[south spindle]

Release was a different time

[steel prairie]

saw it alot lol

[south spindle]

Chen was fine at release too there were barely ops in existence

[steel prairie]

yeah but on debut was W good ???

[vocal leaf]

CE can also kill pat in one cycle iirc

[steel prairie]

who is CE ???

[scarlet mortar]

W was eh

[vocal leaf]

theresa

[south spindle]

I don’t know enough about W can’t comment much

[scarlet mortar]

good, not great

[south spindle]

But I don’t think it’s broken no one talks about w

[vocal leaf]

civilight eterna

[steel prairie]

oh Theresa callsign

[south spindle]

Chalter was broken on release

So it’s not like Chen didn’t have her moment

Well she had a good 2 years or so

[sterile delta]

w on release was decent

[brisk surge]

chalter glazer

[steel prairie]

yeah ik that... I expect their own Alter to powercreep themselves... thats kinda of coming... I just didnt know if W was really cracked or not

[sterile delta]

definitely not cracked

[scarlet mortar]

she had a blend of afk crowd control which was kinda cool for her large range, but doesn't work against hovering so there was a gradual decline in her use among those regularly using her

[remote perch]

She sniffed it tho

[scarlet mortar]

that said her S1/3 still works on flying

[steel prairie]

oh those hoverboard soldiers... yeah they were also pain in the ass

[scarlet mortar]

i liked how S1 cycles well in SL-EX-7 or sth

[steel prairie]

any Ops that survived power creep ??? ( think like Bennet in Genshin... still super relevant to this day or Enterprise in Azur Lane and Ruan Mei in HSR etc etc)

[jovial nest]

the best thing to happen to SSS....allow a NO option on temp recruits (they also removes the need for the miniboss tools in return)

[scarlet mortar]

cinema watching all the sheep getting shot down like, this must be how tomimi felt

[south spindle]

There’s a bunch of very strong operators on kernel and they’re mostly util

Suzu Nightingale namely

[scarlet mortar]

survived as in they can still be used nowadays? i mean all of them can in general content

[steel prairie]

oh bruh I thought Nightingale was a standard banner Ops lol

[scarlet mortar]

survived as in sees meta use nowadays, suzu mag Xmod NG SA

[vocal leaf]

maybe hoshi, i mean no uses nian over hoshi, right?

[south spindle]

Mlynar Ines Reedic are 2 years old, still top 20 operators

[scarlet mortar]

-# saria if you're in the basic bitch crowd

[jovial nest]

agreed with Suzu NG

[steel prairie]

ic

[south spindle]

Silverash is still relatively solid with mod

[jovial nest]

Saria's in my future Yu squad

[scarlet mortar]

mag Xmod S1 gets brought for binding shit in CC-like content where ines doesn't cut it

[south spindle]

Oh right mag exists lmao

[steel prairie]

speaking about the previous things should I get Kal Sit to E2 first or start modding already E2 dps ???

[scarlet mortar]

she also gets invis with Xmod so her niche became quite solid

[jovial nest]

i actually brought SA here. Because the fireworks keeps getting put out as a design of the level

[south spindle]

DPSes always take prio

Kaltsits meh outside of IS other than niche DR

[steel prairie]

uhhh.. well.. isnt like Kal Sit is like a exception ???

a medic in disguise essentially

[jovial nest]

i remember when Kal was a bit newer. Her S2M3 was the perfect answer to the suicide guys in TW rerun

[south spindle]

She’s a terrible medic lol

[steel prairie]

terrible medic... good dps somehow

[prisma ledge]

Not a good medic by herself

[jovial nest]

you're raising Kal NOT to be a medic

[south spindle]

Dps wise she does 30K total true damage

[jovial nest]

that's just extra

[prisma ledge]

It's her true dmg

[south spindle]

Only useful for DR in 2025 tbh

[steel prairie]

took me a while to realize Kal sit was like the fakest medic ever

[south spindle]

But considering your ops are mid you might as well get kaltsit up

[scarlet mortar]

it takes like one poison mist stage to realize that

[south spindle]

Not like you have much better unless you got something new recently

[steel prairie]

Ray is the only new one... and Im might get brainrot by her

[scarlet mortar]

kal when IS2 survivalist

[prisma ledge]

Kalstit just uses skills for Mont3r to block 3 ppl and deal true dmg. Laneholder but uses 2 slots and needs a skill)

[bitter halo]

Kalsit is still a healer doo , just dont let her take dmg

[steel prairie]

and the dp cost... which is also fake... it says 19 but its actually 19 + 10

[vocal leaf]

and don’t deploy monster

[steel prairie]

I mean I saw AOE Ops with like 31 but Kal is the first one technically that I encounter that needs a dp close to 30

[prisma ledge]

Eh, summoners like that. They have a DP cost, but they might not tell you what DP cost their summons are.

[steel prairie]

yeah but like Silence drone is 5 and doesnt take a slot while Mon$tr does take one is insane lol

[prisma ledge]

HG when they release IS module for Kalstit

[prisma ledge]

Well, Mont3r is a carry and doesnt disappear off the map.

Pre sure Silence drone is temporary

[scarlet mortar]

funny how in her case it might as well be a bugfix

[prisma ledge]

2 heals

Me:

[scarlet mortar]

compared to phantom who basically got 2 relics strapped onto him

[prisma ledge]

[steel prairie]

oh btw I heard some people said Silence Alter is also very good (also welfare Ops) is that true ???

[prisma ledge]

This reminds me

IS2 Big Sad Lock

[prisma ledge]

I... dont think so?

[scarlet mortar]

who is out here shilling silence2...

[steel prairie]

just getting more info on her... I heard some say she is good while others its forgettable

[prisma ledge]

@steel prairie How's ur 10-17 clear going btw

[vocal leaf]

it’s immortality niche, but only for few seconds

[steel prairie]

ik she was literally forgetten compare to Mue and the snake mommy on release

[scarlet mortar]

she's ok for a generic healer, but whosa raising generic healers

[steel prairie]

compare to Silence and Silence Alter who wins out in the medic field ????

and Silence Alter to other medics ???

[scarlet mortar]

by the time you get her you probs have raised enough medics to get you by

[elder flume]

Shes not even a medic

[scarlet mortar]

functionally she is

[prisma ledge]

Alters dont have the same class as their original version

[scarlet mortar]

like how quercus is a medic

[steel prairie]

oh also a exception like Saria or Kal (a defender that heals and a dps that heals)

[prisma ledge]

Suzuran

[scarlet mortar]

(who you'd raise tbh considering she's cheaper)

[prisma ledge]

doesnt she heal with her skills as a supporter?

[elder flume]

Quercus actually does her job well with infinite duration

[prisma ledge]

Medic defenders like Saria and Spot and Gummy are very flexible with what they do.

[steel prairie]

feel like HG might as well make a new class considering how some medics literally requires more violence than heal people lol

just place Saria and Kal and (Reed I think ???) into its own brand new class

[south spindle]

Get brain rot? Sure if you wanna stay using old operators you better learn how to use them to fully potential to clear modern stuff

[bitter halo]

mon3ter kalsit and reed alter do you even need any other heal

[south spindle]

Mon3tr and reedic are enough for most stages

[vocal leaf]

not violence, but buffs and utility like ptilo/warf and flexibility like eyja and monster

[south spindle]

Kaltsit isn’t a real medic anyways

[steel prairie]

I didnt expect her dmg to be THAT huge... I saw videos of her being compared to Wis and it still looks pretty bad but compare to what I have is like comparing the sun to pluto LMAO

[south spindle]

Why Saria what are you on about

[steel prairie]

cause she is a defender... but she heals

just like how Kal is a medic... but attacks hard

[south spindle]

Yeah she has high dph and it’s very good on old content like most modern operators are

Saria is literally a guardian defender

That is a archetype

Saria Nearl Gummy Spot?

[steel prairie]

basically any medics that does smth better OTHER than healing

[south spindle]

Reedic is an incantation medic it’s in her archetype to do damage

Kaltsit and Mon3tr are the weird exceptions of favortism

[steel prairie]

ik its a subclass but with so many Ops that do similar thing it might as well be a whole new class

[vocal leaf]

and bassline and hung, how dare you to forgot my boys

[steel prairie]

because I have to remind myself that Kal sit is NOT a medic (even tho with a gigantic medic sign on her lol)

[south spindle]

My fault thought of the most recognized ones 🥀

[prisma ledge]

😂

[prisma ledge]

Ehh it happens

[south spindle]

Okay just remember operators by identity not their general class lmao

[prisma ledge]

^^^

[south spindle]

Remembering my general class is terrible anyways

[prisma ledge]

U might get a rough idea of who they are, but it doesnt paint a full picture of what they are capable of (or what they are supposed to do)

[steel prairie]

Btw is Ray also good against Tal (I did beat 8-3 but it wasn't a 3 star... thay stage is just too brutal man lol)

[south spindle]

Ray is just good she does high single target damage

I don’t know if it will solve the stage for you

[prisma ledge]

I was gonna say the same thing @south spindle

[south spindle]

There’s more to the stage than damage

[prisma ledge]

@steel prairie U haven't raised Myrtle and AOE medic yet so

U gonna need 'em to make ur life easier

[azure roost]

ur hard

🏃‍♂️

[steel prairie]

I don't think I have any aoe medics I think (unless you count Silence drone)

[prisma ledge]

U have Perfurmer and Ptilopsis?

[azure roost]

use perf

if no 5★ option

u can cope on using breeze but she expensive to deploy

very good aoe medic doe

[steel prairie]

I think I have perfumer but definitely no ptilopisis

[azure roost]

use perf then

[prisma ledge]

Just raise Perfurmer if nothing else, she's pretty good for what she does. Can heal 3-4 people and has global heal talent (not that broken but it is helpful, and niche for Enmity defenders/unhealable operators)

[azure roost]

e1 max enough

[steel prairie]

Man I have heard so many different opinions on Breeze... some say she is good while other say she is hot garbage

[prisma ledge]

Thats why its "cope"

Even tho shes decent medic

Theres better options

Or cheaper options

[steel prairie]

Ah ic

[prisma ledge]

Rose Salt is actually decent too. I hope u have been farming the event too.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Decent in specific situation, which is very unlikely

[prisma ledge]

It's generally more worth it to farm the event than the story mode lol

[steel prairie]

Oh really ? (And yes I have been, but not grindstone since for me it's unstable)

[scarlet fulcrum]

So just ignore breeze

[azure roost]

hi @scarlet fulcrum

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yo long time no see

[steel prairie]

Ik... but I can't auto the grindstone level 8, super unstable and support is needed

[prisma ledge]

Dont bother with that for now

There's better grindstone farm event later

I am just focusing on EP-6

[azure roost]

dont bother to auto stage 8 unless u can do stable run on it

[prisma ledge]

Aketon farm might be soon iirc

[azure roost]

[steel prairie]

Also I have been grinding event but with like 40ish sanity + 10-17 been left hanging for quite a while lol

[azure roost]

lol

rn im faeming sugar to 200

[prisma ledge]

I can stable run on EP-8 but since I asked around, apparently I have been told that its better to just farm EP-6 or EP-7 cuz grindstone farm event later

[azure roost]

then gonna go to grindatone

[prisma ledge]

Same

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dude we will have 2 grindstone event on future, so don't bother if u cant

[steel prairie]

The odd part is that I have a TON of Aketon but absolutely 0 grindstone... yet that boss is fukin hell

[azure roost]

nah farm all the way till 500++

gt not enough

[steel prairie]

The weird thing is I have like over 200 Aketon but 0 grindstone and 0 rocks like wtf ???

[prisma ledge]

I mean, we are talking two grindstone event

[scarlet fulcrum]

Still on 120 ish, cant enough of that shit personally

[prisma ledge]

u can farm there instead

[azure roost]

what next event again?

for gt

i forgot

my cn brain is shit to remember

[south spindle]

Do not get breeze

[steel prairie]

I think it's another rerun... after that it's Blaze Alter

[south spindle]

Rose salt literally released

Welfare

[azure roost]

just use perf

[scarlet fulcrum]

#bot-spam message

[south spindle]

Should be Degen event

[scarlet fulcrum]

Rose salt far better

[south spindle]

Wel technically there’s Poly Vision Museum

But it’s 0 sanity special event thing

[steel prairie]

So Rose Salt is worthy of a build ?

[azure roost]

@scarlet fulcrum not enough

[scarlet fulcrum]

Do u have ptilo?

[azure roost]

he dont

[prisma ledge]

Nope

Perfurmer is the next option

[scarlet fulcrum]

I need that rma

[prisma ledge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steel prairie]

Nope

[prisma ledge]

Bro that RMA

Man...

I should've properly farmed the events ages ago

[steel prairie]

Omg can I have some of that RMA ?

[south spindle]

Did you not farm RMA in PV?

[prisma ledge]

Gotta love event farming lmfao

[scarlet fulcrum]

E1 perfumer for base anyway

[azure roost]

[steel prairie]

Uhhh this PV ?

[south spindle]

Lapp2

[prisma ledge]

Lappland Alter event

Portari Vu something something

[steel prairie]

Ohhhh no because I just started at that time and my team was way too shit

[azure roost]

@scarlet fulcrum

[steel prairie]

Literally joined AK in the middle of Lappa Alt event so I have nothing to auto it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dang rich guy

[prisma ledge]

PV: I Portatori dei Velluti

[prisma ledge]

U got no one to raise?!?

[scarlet fulcrum]

I dont even have 1% of that

[azure roost]

i only raised unit i like or kit i like

or base

[prisma ledge]

Wow

[azure roost]

i have like 100++ e2s

[prisma ledge]

Gg

[steel prairie]

I did "try" to farm Lappa Alt but manually it is so painful

[prisma ledge]

Veteran moment

[azure roost]

i cant remmeber what count doe

[prisma ledge]

Krooster can probably help

Which reminds me

Time to set up Krooster account

Brb

[azure roost]

lol

@prisma ledge oh my krooster is on desc

not updated

[prisma ledge]

Ye I will also add mine to my desc too

[steel prairie]

Maybe if I join AK somewhat before Lappa Alt I might have grinded RMA but sadly nahhh. stuck for it now lol

[prisma ledge]

Im not exactly a veteran but yea

[azure roost]

i have 173 e2s @prisma ledge

on main

[prisma ledge]

Wuh

gg

[prisma ledge]

I have 50, apparently...

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u are new the freebie resource probably enough for building some ops. I remember u wasted resources to max chen and flametail. So cant say much with ur comments

[prisma ledge]

dies

[azure roost]

lmfao 179 on alt acc

prob because i e2s no one use 5★ or whatever there

[prisma ledge]

I assume this is lower rarity

its cheaper

more E2s that way

[azure roost]

max lvl is max masteries

[prisma ledge]

Gojover

[azure roost]

alt difference on mats

i just m9 cs and lapp2 here

and other prev unit max masteries

[azure roost]

wtf

[scarlet fulcrum]

its their decision anyway, ppl giving advice. Dude still on it, dude nagging later

[azure roost]

kek

cant still forget the lockdown of help and high alert that time

funni days of ako

[prisma ledge]

Oh dear

[azure roost]

lots of old helpslave vanished that day

[scarlet fulcrum]

Good thing mod still care

[azure roost]

strategy dont change much

[prisma ledge]

Profile updated, check.

[azure roost]

less elitist doe

[scarlet fulcrum]

Here kinda worse tbh, certain mod purging few (a lot) oldies

[azure roost]

the new one taking love to misinfo doe

and give bad advice

[scarlet fulcrum]

Help like that nowadays, personal bias always brought by few ppl

[prisma ledge]

Wtf gg

[azure roost]

cant forget how newbie been here for like days

already giving parrot advice

classic help

[prisma ledge]

😂

[azure roost]

@prisma ledge nice unit ngl

[prisma ledge]

Which one?

[azure roost]

e2 ng doe

[prisma ledge]

LMAO

Idk what Im doing

[coral fern]

How far does the anastasio gospel spray reach?

[elder flume]

1.8 radius
Extra 8 surrounding tiles on the operator targeted

[coral fern]

So 8 of his surrounding tiles?

[elder flume]

No he shoots 10 bullets
For every shot done it deals to the operator + their 8 surrounding tiles

He doesnt target 1 op

Maybe i should paint this

[coral fern]

1.8 radius is 1.8 tiles right?
And then extra 8 tiles surrounding 1 target?

So I just need to avoid grouping ops together right?

[elder flume]

Basically

this is 3 shots

target 1 then do 8 surrounding

repeat it for ten bullets

prioritize operator with less elemental buildup

[narrow sun]

so is he targeting młynar, saria, and stainless?? im confused

[elder flume]

he shoots ten times

each shot targets the operator with less elemental buildup

[narrow sun]

and the 8 tiles around operator is splash damage right?

haha i got around it by sacking operators as he came close

[elder flume]

ye

basically if he shoots all ten shots then only Ash survives in that scenario

supposed to be Mlynar > splash hits Archetto Exu Stain Saria > Texalt target next > splash hits Stain Saria Saga Saileach > repeat
if he targets Stain after he recovers from corrosion > Mlynar Texalt Warf gets hit

[south spindle]

@steel prairie E2-60 Mod3 Ray S3 one cycles JT8-3 Talulah phase 1 as long as she doesn't catch on fire
She has a bit more hp in phase 2, but still will be down to 30% hp (22K)

[elder flume]

until ten shots all used before he ends spinning

[south spindle]

looks like arknights takes the floor of attack stat

but rounds damage numbers

[elder flume]

seeing red number 11471,294 isnt a good showing

[south spindle]

lmfao

but i mean like

the displayed attack stat

is floored (rounded down) always

but actual damage numbers are rounded

wonder if they keep decimals of the damage internally

[elder flume]

as long as its not this bad

[south spindle]

wtfart

and looks like my ray calculator

is accurate to the dot now

whats the fastest source of inspiration?

need to test my calculator with inspiration

i tested warf

oh heidis pretty quick 25 sp on sl1

[elder flume]

do it in chap ten

[south spindle]

chap 10?

[elder flume]

or ig that needs E2

[south spindle]

manfred?

oh lol eh

[elder flume]

+.5 sp rec in chap ten

[south spindle]

just wanna see if i add flat inspiration number if i did it correct

o

thats nice

not necessary tho ty

[elder flume]

this always exists for crosscheck
https://bit.ly/AKMechanics

[south spindle]

o haven't seen that before

okay thats pretty nice

Heidi bAtk 133, sl1: 50% inspiration, Ray 3rd hit

[jovial nest]

since old SSS can now have reappearances from now on

would old sweep unlocks save?

I was thinking if it was worth it to clear hard mode Dossoles SSS just for that.

I guess it might not matter if I'm doing hard mode clear on the new SSS anyways...

[scarlet fulcrum]

Hopefully no, maybe they will not reset mod blocks first reward too if thats the case

Juicy mod blocks ☕

[jovial nest]

at best

they will reset any older SSSs that reappear that ain't the recent Philharmonic SSS

actually.....no

they WILL reset the first clear rewards

it's always been consistent to have 2 present SSS have it be available

[spark sinew]

they didn't reset current one, did they

or did i somehow claim it accidentally

[narrow sun]

they did reset the first clear reward

[spark sinew]

oh wow

alright

[willow sun]

i think they do

[pure orchid]

Counterpoint i think they dont (i actually dk)

[steel prairie]

yeah this "almost" worked except without modded Blaze and E2 Kal it was very difficult

imma just borrow a E2 Kal instead of a Wis lol

[spark sinew]

what stage was this

is this not the one that zuo dunks on

[scarlet fulcrum]

Standard 10-17, dude just make it more "interesting"

[steel prairie]

the difference between a modded Blaze and a unmodded one is night and day lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

Why u copy pasta that bs

[spark sinew]

tbh not sure why you copied clear with blaze when your is modless

[steel prairie]

wdym ??? thats pretty close that I can mimick

[steel prairie]

welll..... what else Iwould use then tbh

[scarlet fulcrum]

The stage already simple enough

[steel prairie]

I understand the concept obviously... just lack of firepower in general

[steel prairie]

does the Sarkaz also reduces your medics healing effect ???

because my Silence is healing a lot slower than its suppose to

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nah they just stack

[spark sinew]

do i dare to ask what you even have

[scarlet fulcrum]

The aspd or smt

[steel prairie]

uhhh I posted it earlier

also why so many people have like blanked profile pics LOL

I nearly mixed up between you and someone else with also blanked pics

[steel prairie]

also since the sp zap is technically elemental would a elemental healer out heal a regular healer ? (like Mulberry vs Silence in this case since I used those 2 the most)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Iirc the one who can trigger necro only blade dude and Car(indirectly).

Just abuse the cannon

[narrow pendant]

The chain casters too

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yea that guy

[steel prairie]

ahhh goddammit

so close yet so far

these goddamn worms leaked

wtf they have more than 3k hp ???

I guess having a crusade against the Sarkaz was right all along

[elder flume]

Swalter actually has Enforcer uniqueness huh

Omnidirectional pushing

Or ig its closer to Croissant

Doesnt get hit with -2 nor fails to execute skill

Will try chap 3 on that 0,0 later

[marble parrot]

i got something for u

[scarlet fulcrum]

Looks like maxed 👍

[mild brook]

How to beat ep 8 of event?? Is it even possible with my level

[spark sinew]

you should raise your base workers though

e0 gravel...

[mild brook]

I just use gravel for the barrel man sorry

[scarlet fulcrum]

e1 gravel very good for the stage too

[mild brook]

What gravel do?

Im having trouble with the boss his aoe

[scarlet fulcrum]

Fast redeploy meatshield

[steel prairie]

better than what I have when facing that Pirate that somehow has a machine gun

[scarlet fulcrum]

Here we go this guy with same word again

[steel prairie]

bruh I got Ray AFTER I beat him ok

also he has water gun Chen

still viable

[mild brook]

I also have these operator if they are ever good

But i dont have resource so i just use what i started with

[spark sinew]

🫡

[steel prairie]

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[spark sinew]

they're good but useless unraised

like ulpi or hoshi

[steel prairie]

HOW THE HELL YOU GOT SKADI ALTER AND ULP ??????????????????????

AND HOSHI

TF ????????

[mild brook]

I dont have money and energy to get chips

[mild brook]

I roll 10x when there is event typically on free 10x

I just visit sometimes

[steel prairie]

wtf ??? I usually get shit when I try that

[spark sinew]

i think you just nuke phase 2
nothing tanky raised to tank it

what's your current problem

spin killing your ops?

[elder flume]

Got a raised defender?

[mild brook]

Yes when the spin happens everything die

[steel prairie]

toss your Skadi Alter in your team... raise your Ulp, Hoshi (maybe), W (maybe), Nymph and Lin

[mild brook]

I missed lappland alter and big mistake she is very good

[steel prairie]

but thats way better than what I have

[fiery marsh]

Mylnar is m3? He by himself can nuke his second phase, but have to drop meatshields because of his dash and dmg red

[mild brook]

Can you bury the boss in sand?

[steel prairie]

also why everyone keeps getting my wife Platinum BUT NOT ME ???

wtf ???

[fiery marsh]

Yeah but need shu, if you dont want to farm the stage is an option

[spark sinew]

you can but not with that roster

[mild brook]

I tried and can only get to maybe 25 percent until he dies bc of cannons

[steel prairie]

in theory... yes

[spark sinew]

i think there was some weird strat as well but it's easier to just kill

[mild brook]

So expensive but ill try in later events

[steel prairie]

but Im more stunned the fact how the hell you even get good characters in the first place

[narrow pendant]

Ignore W🫡

[steel prairie]

by a single 10 roll

[narrow pendant]

Finish what u habe first

[steel prairie]

HOW

[mild brook]

I typically pull 10x then if not i always get on 2nd 10x

[elder flume]

Tbh without spending another lmd i can prob whip a mapark hm

[steel prairie]

every time I try to roll its always offrate Ops

[mild brook]

Is my healer ok?

I show where i place them wait

[elder flume]

Sussuro can solo heal at that level

Use S2 tho

[mild brook]

I always do this or i change something incase someone dies

[mild brook]

Is s2 the one where she can only do it twice per lvl?

[steel prairie]

you can also let your Ops hold the line against the Pirate and borrow a Weedy and push the boss into da hole

[narrow pendant]

Pushing needs more than just weedy

Its not for avg player

[steel prairie]

ah true...

[mild brook]

I already beaten it with borrowing but i was planning to farm

[steel prairie]

oh uhh well

[steel prairie]

I usually reccomend someone to take out atleast 1 of the cannons

the cannons buff the boss

[mild brook]

Ok ill try

[narrow pendant]

No they dont

🥹

[steel prairie]

dont they buff the boss when he is close to the cannon ??? (or its the boss that buffs the cannon) ?

[narrow pendant]

He gets dr when near cannon yes but 90% players kill him close to right side so its whatever

And he buffs cannons

[mild brook]

Theres nothing i can use cannon have so much health for me

I borrowed texas alter and made quick work back then

But i struggle

[fiery marsh]

Any arts deals decent damage to them

[elder flume]

initial

after boss moves to salt

[mild brook]

Ok ill try rn

Thanks

[fiery marsh]

When bursting the second phase remember to drop anyone in the boss feet so he doesnt get DR

[elder flume]

phase 2 after Mlynar kills cannon

idk if Mlynar kills both cannons

[mild brook]

What is dr?

[elder flume]

Eyja might go S2 just to be safe

[mild brook]

Ill try

[fiery marsh]

Damage reduction

[elder flume]

bring more blocker instead of Ifrit Myrtle tbh

ill test if Mlynar kills both cannons

[mild brook]

I use mrytle to get more dp i cant place someone fast enought i think

[elder flume]

you can definitely get Thorns and have enough for Mountain after before bottom enemy comes

[mild brook]

Ill put siege but only first rank up and only lvl 40

[mild brook]

Ill try rn

I use gravel for the barrel right? Or just place as planned

[elder flume]

ye

theres only 3 barrels

hm ok S3M3 Mlynar doesnt kill cannon in 1 go

[somber falcon]

he can't even make a dent on that position

[mild brook]

This is where im at now

[elder flume]

he did like 55% thats decent

no defenders suck tbh

cant stall boss for long

[spark sinew]

they technically have nymph

but shit base strikes back

[mild brook]

Mountain with blaze and thorns solves my problem at normal lvl but i struggle when boss is present

So i never rlly used defender

Blaze dies and the boss is half health

[vocal leaf]

p1 or p2?

[mild brook]

When boss is in salt flat and ph1

[narrow sun]

thorns should be strong enough to phase the boss no?

[vocal leaf]

yeah he should, but needs to get the boss in his range and also better block

cuora can stall, e2 cuora

[narrow sun]

blocking isnt strictly necessary yet since the boss has ranged attaxks that slow him down

a gravel placed down at range can probably stall longer than if she was blocking, and it looks like you have myrtle and siege to sack as well

[vocal leaf]

boss is going to keep moving if he doesn’t block, thorns is not that fast killing, i wonder if is even moded

[brisk surge]

Whar

[mild brook]

No module

[narrow sun]

thorns is pretty good even without mod

[mild brook]

Ill try though

[narrow sun]

boss is already half health too right

i was able to clear this with thorns as my only dps and tank, while baiting attacks with other ops (rose salt healing)

[brisk surge]

Why are we killing cannons with physical damage

[mild brook]

Ill try to use blaze as tank

Her trait is ok for 10 sec

Then ill place chen mixef with thorns

[vocal leaf]

e2 rose salt with s2? she kinda helps with this boss mechanic

[narrow sun]

yeahh

it was lore accurate clear

[somber falcon]

try this
eyja and ifrit only after boss on right side and mlynar only when boss is circling on bottom.
thorns and blaze should be able kill his 1st phase
if you have her raised you can use cardigan to hold him in place long enough after at the same spot blaze dies

[mild brook]

Ill try it now thanks

Eyja with skill 2 right the one that store charges

[somber falcon]

oh and save sussuro s2, once for blaze and once for mlynar

[mild brook]

The one where she can only ise it twice?

[somber falcon]

yeh s2 should be fine

[somber falcon]

yeah

[narrow sun]

s2 is the far superior skill

[somber falcon]

can also use gravel to help stall boss if needed

[mild brook]

Ill try it later thanks

Almost made it but died on phase 2 on the first strategy

Ill try the new one later

Everyone just dies on the spin

[narrow sun]

if you're not tanky enough to survive the spin, you'll have to outrange him in dps, and bait the spin (it has 20 sec cooldown)

i think młynar could survive as long as no one else is in range and sussuro s2 is active

[mild brook]

Ill time it thanks

[haughty flower]

If you're struggling with the boss's damage throw in a true tank, like cuora, or a fast redeploy like gravel. Cuora and similar 800+ def allies can straight up tank his skill for a long time, as it only has middling DpH, and ops like Gravel can help redirect some shots, buying hp.

[scarlet mortar]

if you're going lower than cuora you can use two defenders + gravel instead

rotating between them allows you to sorta refresh the corrosion procs

[mild brook]

Almost did it

But i need to trigger ph2 much early

[haughty flower]

You know, killing the cannons might help you.

Insteaad of rushing into phase 2 and watching your team explode.

[mild brook]

Yep trying that next

I thought i can outheal

[haughty flower]

Remember, they're weak to arts. Stall him out bottom side, then top side, and have eyja and ifrit respectively worry away at them.

[scarlet mortar]

where defender

[haughty flower]

Gravel's handy here. It's a bit click-intensive but just constantly deploying her to slow him down should prove useful.

[mild brook]

Nothing built

[scarlet mortar]

not even E1?

[elder flume]

their best is E1 2 Hoshi

which kina works

[haughty flower]

Hoshi is good. She just needs more levels.

[scarlet mortar]

you just need a cuora and cardigan

[mild brook]

I can lvl up and also lvl up specialty

[mild brook]

No more money

[scarlet mortar]

f

idk what blaze is doing there when you already have 2 laners

[versed arrow]

I just scrolled back, kansas owned hoshi and saria, if they had been raised, can just follow the afk strat and get a stable auto

[elder flume]

i recorded a run and its just processing rn

dont have Blaze so Gavialt is what im subbing it with
Blaze S3 for you

[scarlet mortar]

how broken

[elder flume]

tho idk if it will be that much different between Gavialt S3 and Blaze S3

[scarlet mortar]

uh. blaze S3 does like nothing

[mild brook]

Ill try it thanks all

[scarlet mortar]

it's a shit skill even for launch ops

[elder flume]

hmm thats sad

might have to go Bison Route then to simulate Hoshi

ig Blaze S2 can be closer

https://youtu.be/sr7WIfaX86U?si=A394UJ9R6VBMDV-I

if Blaze needs S2 to do more burst damage than S3 then Blaze deploy before Exu

and Mlynar deployed after
forgot to deploy him

[haughty flower]

Lessing
Wat the hell a polar bear doing in Arlington Texas?

[narrow pendant]

Youre not funny

Give it up

[haughty flower]

And you're a meanie.

Anyways, couldn't you swap eureka with yato vanilla too? That should give you some more cheap stall and bait.

[elder flume]

theyre leveled so i avoided them
and forgot she was there

Gravel might die in 1 hit which is sad

oh wait they dont have Lessing

huh waht happened during ZT

[mild brook]

Ill try it right away

[haughty flower]

One last thing-you know during phase 2 he gets damage reduction if he goes unblocked, correct?
Just checking in case you're trying to use ranged dps on him.

[mild brook]

Yep i was using holungday

She was close to killing until he did the spin

But no one was blocking so i ll change that

[haughty flower]

Yeah, she's essentially wasting ammo if he's going unblocked.

[mild brook]

Ill lvl up the 2 star dude

[elder flume]

just raise the Hoshi tbh

i used him cuz simulating low level defender

Yato is more useful if Gravel is your only rdp

[mild brook]

Ok ill lvl up hoshi to 50

How about saria?

she not good?

[scarlet mortar]

guardians don't really have def

saria ramps up over time to break away from that archetype trait, but that's not ideal here

[mild brook]

Okek

I use hoshi to stall anastasio while eyja kill the first cannon

[full terrace]

You know, the boss is susceptible to stun. If you can do a stun setup (hint: Mr.Nothing/Erato), the boss is pretty much a device. Reason why I prefer Texas S3 over her S2 is because she does a constant stun, that makes auto very stable.

Your Krooster would do a wonderful job there

[mild brook]

Almost did it

Blaze died quickly andnot enough damage

Mylnar did great with holungday

[elder flume]

How long does Hoshi stay alivr

[mild brook]

Pretty long than i expected

He tanks the spin

I mean she

Though the healing was behind a bit

[full terrace]

Its not about the heal

Boss does stack Corrosion damage, that thing reduces your unit's defense. When the defense goes so low the boss will just 1 spin that unit

Thats why you bring 2 Defenders, and keep switching the Defenders

When one die, deploy the other

Now you got fresh one with def intact

Here is a 4 Stars auto #strategy message you can watch for reference

You can also time your skill usage to match the boss's spin timing

In Phase 1, he does 4 slashes and then spin

Then does 4 slashes and then spin again

In Phase 2, he gains aspd so he does 6 slashes and then spin

Then 6 slashes again and then spin

Thats how I precisely timed the spin timing with Cuora/Bubble +def% skill

[mild brook]

It is done

Thanks guys

Real level next

[mild brook]

The amount of token were the same in stage 7 and 8

[forest lagoon]

Token earned is equal to sanity spend ( except 1st time reward )

[somber falcon]

the point of farming event is the mats anyways

[timid nacelle]

just hit 7 it's a less annoyin stage to auto

[rapid junco]

Me when heart surging flame

[mild brook]

I never knew dat

[south spindle]

Uhm bluds been playing for atleast 3 years 🥹

Back to nursing home

[full terrace]

Bro

🤣🤣🤣

[south spindle]

Hi arc

Arc

Are

Arf

whatever

Bye arf

[full terrace]

Bye light

[glass monolith]

KO KO DA YO

[sly drift]

Meanwhile me refusing to read until I lose the stage once

15 mins stall baby. Still win anyway on first attempt ffs abyssal Hunter are invincible

[full terrace]

Yah it tripped me up on my first try as well

At least I first tried Emergency after that 😂

[wicked minnow]

omg how broken is krooster

[glass monolith]

Second tried on Emergency so this is revenge arc on normal difficulty

[full terrace]

I mean, device camping right away needs a bit of good RNG so it does carry some risks, it's only fair.

Compared to say like, Ulpi stall, Nymph stall, Degen stall

You can take your sweet sweet time to setup everything

And do the boss at Danger Level 20 😏

[glass monolith]

(Pulls out Wisadel and murders fucking DOOT team)

[scarlet mortar]

<@&586570970345635868>

[full terrace]

Watch cyanine pings the mods

Right

[limber fox]

[scarlet mortar]

just doing my duty

[full terrace]

As a good #strategy citizen

😏

[scarlet mortar]

🫡

[void terrace]

Wait is rosmontis IS module actually good??

[dapper hedge]

Yes

[full terrace]

Yes Rosmontis with IS Module is really good

[south spindle]

@scarlet fulcrum check dms

[full terrace]

Light is sliding into kirn's DMs

Next level seduction

[south spindle]

😏

Your fault

[full terrace]

I donno whachu talkin bout 😌

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sorry didn't notice

[narrow pendant]

Very

If wis didnt exist she'd be n.1 sniper draft

🥱

Fraudsadel

[south spindle]

Wis IS mod trust

2030

[void terrace]

Does it still hold out at d15?

The tact equipment jusy gets erased by any bosses

[vital vessel]

@south spindle should gather our own data for a few months

me you maybe a couple more people that logs in daily

then we can calculate everything, from 4* to 5* to 6* to certs a month

[south spindle]

need to log 2 things: gold cert gain vs recruitment permits used
6* already solved at 1/500 no?

[vital vessel]

yea but might as well logs in the result too

[south spindle]

sure just think 5* and 6* so small, a small group of people is not enough

[vital vessel]

5* combos and 4* combos are the hard part to calc, because in penguin stats it doesn't log them

[south spindle]

i mean ya just note any 5* for sure

[still vessel]

I’ve gotten 2 5 star from recruitment so far since I started playing

1 6 star since I got top op tag

[spark sinew]

it has different stata

it's not the fridges from s3

but sure, it's more about bigger scaling and some cc vs bosses

[vital vessel]

i'll make the sheet for the log sometime in 10 hours

[south spindle]

Uh yeah I’m out or else I would’ve

[upbeat jay]

What am I doing wrong?

[haughty flower]

Wisadel's on the wrong side for boss DPS, for one.

No one's blocking him to remove his phase 2 DR, for two.

[upbeat jay]

Wisadel isn't boss dps.

She's for dealing with the turrets.

And add clear.

[scarlet mortar]

kinda wasteful use of wis imo

the two executors there could do the same, cexas S2 doesn't have to deal with the absurd def the cannons have

[upbeat jay]

They handle the first two.

Wisadel is for the third one.

[scarlet mortar]

yh that's a waste

[upbeat jay]

The trouble comes with his back-and-forth in stage one and that he literally single-shots anything that isn't a Defender.

[scarlet mortar]

you can stall him by rotating defenders

once a defender has taken enough corrosion procs swap them for the other

this does mean that saria is unoptimal