strategy

[pure orchid]

in sss that is

[smoky halo]

it ok melee dont like you too

:ya:

[pure orchid]

melee = have to look at their range and babysit

[dark mantle]

she does

[pure orchid]

ranged i just see something in this general direction and press fire

[dark mantle]

u just need medic DR

[smoky halo]

🚬

[pure orchid]

who run medic in sss 😭

[somber falcon]

Just put 5 guard mountain or smth

[full terrace]

I run one 6 Star for every class

Err the ground units usually dont need equipment stacking

Like Shu, she teleports stuff just fine without equipment

And Ulpi will just stall anything

[pure orchid]

shu vg would be great tho

[smoky halo]

ground units need equipment if theyre dps though

[next wigeon]

I do smh

They are very good especially during the Stultifera Navis Tower

[full terrace]

Dont cope, just stack Snipers/Casters on your high ground dps

[smoky halo]

that was ages ago

[next wigeon]

5 Sniper Medic goes brrrr

[next wigeon]

Let me reminisce smh

[full terrace]

This bozo speaks like someone lacking units

[smoky halo]

what even was the mechanic there

:joyplush:

[pure orchid]

this does not count for gramophones

[smoky halo]

🚬

mfw i cant react to this goobers msgs

:realmad:

[pure orchid]

was worth a try

[next wigeon]

Boss summons things that needs to be healed else all ops get Nervous Impairment

[smoky halo]

rip bozo

[next wigeon]

When fully healed it gives an item that absorbs Nervous Impairment

[full terrace]

Oh ya btw

[pure orchid]

-33% maximum gramophone capture spd

[next wigeon]

The Exclusive Item there was a Lamp

[full terrace]

Lappcaster > Goldenglow for that stage

[smoky halo]

ya i don remember

[full terrace]

Goldenglow would just land her drones on the freaking boss instead of Gramaphone

Lappcaster wolf would run to Gramaphone right away

[next wigeon]

You permanently bricked one tile

[pure orchid]

two now

[next wigeon]

What would the wolf do for Gramaphone?

[full terrace]

Lappcaster wolf searches closest target, and since Gramaphone is closer they just shred the Gramaphone to pieces = unlimited True Damage on the boss

[pure orchid]

true...

just park unemployed on the device

[next wigeon]

The Gramaphone can't be attacked no?

[full terrace]

Goldenglow's drones just stuck on the boss or some random stuff closer to blue box 😒

[somber falcon]

5 stack sniper gg s2 on gramophone

[next wigeon]

OHHHHHHH

Im lagging again classic

[pure orchid]

5 stack sniper nearly anything on gramophone

stage over

[full terrace]

Actually valid 😂

[next wigeon]

Did you do 3 Sniper 2 Caster?

[pure orchid]

why 2 caster for gg s2

wasted sp...

[next wigeon]

Im talking about Lapplter

[pure orchid]

holy fuck i just replaced heavy concrete for heavy concrete

thanks game

[full terrace]

5 Snipers bro

[next wigeon]

I thought we were still on the Lapplter Talk

[full terrace]

With the tower exclusive device

[somber falcon]

Even with lappalt

[full terrace]

Snipers has +200 Atk each

[somber falcon]

Not even 5 caster stack beating the device

[full terrace]

And Def Ignore

[somber falcon]

5sp per atk

[next wigeon]

Oh wao

[full terrace]

So 5 Snipers = 1000 Atk plus Aspd plus Def Ignore

[somber falcon]

+1 i think if it's atk rec in the first place

[next wigeon]

Imma go do it rn

Cya

[full terrace]

Best of luck there

[next wigeon]

Also Thanks

[pure orchid]

i will pray for astrel's downfall to balance the universe

[dark mantle]

i agree

[full terrace]

😂

[pure orchid]

btw arf

im on part 3 of the series

im learning and relearning so much, but it also hurts 🥹

[pure orchid]

oh hell nah i already see that devious gladiia placement

[next wigeon]

Rain, sciel found an Anastasio bug where he just rises up from the Salt Flats like he's Jesus smh
https://youtu.be/So8fWWywRQg

[full terrace]

But its really good right

I learned so much watching that series

[pure orchid]

yeah its pretty good

im listing down all the concepts hes mentioning to look them up later

they explain a lot of shit that ive seen in my life but cant name exactly

therapist things 🚬

[elder flume]

ye that was back then

i was told of it during CN

[limber fox]

Wait wha
Wasnt the boss supposed to not fall in the sand

[pure orchid]

"AK is a 3d game" jumpscare ahh video 😭

[scarlet mortar]

not in phase 2

[next wigeon]

This is why we bring Shu, just to shove Anastasio back down the Salt Flats

[narrow pendant]

thats all it needs?

[limber fox]

Wait wha
No way they missed that out while programing him

[narrow pendant]

Indie compnay

Pls understand

[next wigeon]

He wasn't intended to be back in the Salt Flats

[limber fox]

[next wigeon]

Shu just exists so eh

[scarlet mortar]

i feel like whoever coded him reused pancho's code

[limber fox]

STILL THO
WHY WOULD U NOT KEEP THAT ABILITY

[full terrace]

I think it's intended

[next wigeon]

You sure?

[full terrace]

Coz the boss had 7 Weight

Yah

[scarlet mortar]

the whole "can walk on water but only in p1" thing is reminiscent of dockworkers

[next wigeon]

I thought that was for the Hole

[full terrace]

So devs wanted to make sure he isnt pushable normally

Yah

[azure roost]

fat ass boss

[scarlet mortar]

eh the standard bosses are weight 7 no

[azure roost]

but ye this boss is just shu s3

[full terrace]

I think they just want players to be creative

[scarlet mortar]

real unpushable mfs get weight 10

[azure roost]

its funni on ex 8

hello arf, cyband xcreator

[limber fox]

Wouldnt that mean, that they should make Pushing slightly more accessible

Like

Weight 6?

[limber fox]

Hellooo

[elder flume]

they have made my strats harder yes

each year something is lost im pretty sure

[pure orchid]

🥀

Rainchan inc losing stocks every year

[azure roost]

oh qyurii here

[pure orchid]

hellom freya

[limber fox]

Yo, does someone knows what triggers this

Like

30 consecutive logins?

[narrow pendant]

No its for everyone

[elder flume]

Just random free supplies occassionally

[elder flume]

Same reason as why
https://youtu.be/vmsnjxJHF60?si=KnN-jSVemredU9sC

[azure roost]

just yostar shittery

awesome

[elder flume]

And many other examples related

[limber fox]

Theyre just giving reasons fot shu to remain an excessively "broken" character

[dark mantle]

always happens near event releases

[glass monolith]

"If you don't look down there is no instakill depth"

[limpid ore]

wonder if you can do that with ulpianus s3, but remove the platform before he landed

[glass monolith]

I already seen video of IS2 ending 4 tile ban deny M3 return to her tile after skill

[mighty tangle]

chat which one should i pick...

both of them are really good

[full terrace]

Which ending you going for

[mighty tangle]

i am trying to just go to D15

[full terrace]

So Fremont?

Cylinder then

[mighty tangle]

wouldnt matter which tbh lol

[full terrace]

Nah if it's Quilon you take the Banner

If you are running Qiubai stall for example, or Nymph stall

[mighty tangle]

thats ending 4 right?

[full terrace]

Yeh

[mighty tangle]

i saw how hell it is i rather not lol

i rather fight all the other bosses at once

[sly drift]

Now I understand why ppl yapping about this boss

[narrow pendant]

5 sniper stack wis s1🤫

[full terrace]

Danger Level 20, its fun isnt it

[brisk surge]

Hi chat

Danger 20 is only like 2mil hp

[narrow pendant]

Hi maxxie

How are u this fine day

[brisk surge]

I'm very sleepy

Thinking of sleep part 3

[narrow pendant]

:nodders:

[sly drift]

Not like... sooooo bad. It just that I stuck for like 10-12 minutes at most lol

Pre nerf early SSS was still much worse actually
Very limited ops. Fking shit imbalance enemy stats

[coral pier]

Idk early sss was super easy since you could roll over it by stacking guards and defenders and 0 iq

Now the bosses have gimmicks and stuff

[dark mantle]

Banner

Like

Always

Always pick banner

Its straight up better than everything else

[sly drift]

That was probably after nerf. Back then on pre-nerf everyone ranting about how shitty it is.
Enemy scale too hard on each difficulty raise

[coral pier]

Nah its prenerf lol. Literally right when it came out. I confirmed it at the time by asking if nerfs were out yet because i was having an easy time

[sly drift]

Good for you then.

[spark sinew]

earlier sss were harder though

[foggy grove]

more gimmick doesn't make it harder

[spark sinew]

all the boss' gimmicks are irrelevant still since you basically just hit them hard enough and they die

or sometimes even skip it (thomas boss for example)

meanwhile

1. scaling got nerfed by a lot
2. new equipment is quite op
3. quality of ops went waaaay up

like recent sss boss did what
i do nothing besides periodically damaging you and you need bigger range to damage me?

[verbal wharf]

is there someone who doesnt mind giving me one on one coach to pass dh-5 to get tequila?

[coral pier]

The one gimmick boss that beat my 0 iq guard defender spam so far was the one that stunned your highest atk guy

I was running them blind tho its rly nbd after the first go

I was just rly confused when degenbrecher was just chillin while all my defenders were stuck with every mob

[elder flume]

waddup

this didnt work for you or

[verbal wharf]

thanks

[scarlet mortar]

lmao didn't i send literally the same vid

[full terrace]

Rainchan sends it > cyanine sends it

Bahahahaha

[scarlet mortar]

:realmad:

[full terrace]

There is a difference in charisma 😂

[brisk surge]

he sent it louder

[full terrace]

No, he smells nicer

[full terrace]

You wanna say something? Who knows you might get featured in his next video @brisk surge

[brisk surge]

well hes restarted :realmad:

probably acoustic too

[spark sinew]

you guys are part of the reason why he still posts his shitty content!

[dapper hedge]

Whos that

[spark sinew]

giving this shit views

[brisk surge]

i dont even watch any content creators

[limber fox]

I find him comical lmao
Why would anyone care that much

[spark sinew]

it's like laughing at someone who pretends to be mentally disabled idk

kinda in bad taste i feel

[timid nacelle]

who is this again

[spark sinew]

intentional ragebaiter, don't bother

[limber fox]

Ehhhh idk
For some reason i enjoy the irony and voice tone

[full terrace]

It's Supah

I do enjoy his contents

[spark sinew]

that would explain things!

[timid nacelle]

oh supah

I remember some of his vids havin questionable stuff

but ye not worth the drama

[elder flume]

maybe one day he will copy me and start shilling shift for general content

[full terrace]

Shift is legit play tho

[spark sinew]

me when i put 3 ah and clear the stage afk and faster

[full terrace]

I'm a known Supah enjoyer 😏
I enjoy ragebaiting contents, I find it funny

Thats why I like Max coz he ragebaits people

[somber shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/853916916040597510/1369200535865135124/isthisragebait.gif

[void terrace]

Hmmm

Thorns alter healing output is actually pretty decent on s2

If it goes in te right direction

I almost wish his range was jusr a straight line forward

So you know his ball is gonna land

[spark sinew]

do you know about his range being affected by ranged tiles

[maiden spire]

I'm trying Kyo's strategy for the boss (using Shu's S3 right after his first form to make the boss teleport back to the sand so he instantly dies) and...sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't? What might I be doing wrong?

[full terrace]

Your inconsistent dps and Shu's bad skill timing

What are you using to kill the Phase 1

[glass monolith]

Need to have grass tile on boss. Also maybe need to S3 before boss dies idk don't have shu dies of cringe

[noble hollow]

ulpianus can do good work

[maiden spire]

Mainly Thorns, but this time I deployed Ray two squares behind just to test her.
The first time it happened it was only thorns though, though I had Lumen healing everyone. When I switched back to NG it worked for some reason

[full terrace]

Ray dps should be consistent

Or you can just Wisadel like this #strategy message

I have been 3-opping that thing since its release

Can do 2 (Wis+Shu) but 3 (Wis+Shu+Texas) is more stable, its for stability

The key is to

Have consistent dps like

The boss dies in 9 secs, if its 10 secs then it got desynced a bit

[brisk surge]

you can wait till he dies then press Shu

as long as shes not max hp

[maiden spire]

hm, I'll try that

[full terrace]

Secondly, time your Shu skill when you are about to deal the final blow

That way there is plenty of room for error

If her skill is activated too fast, and you are at like half the duration when you kill the boss, by the time he enters Phase 2 her skill could have ended

And you failed the teleportation

Or if you activated it too late when the boss was already killed, there is a chance to desync the timing

[brisk surge]

wait i mean

if you are doing this strat then just press it when he dies

cuz the cannons will keep hitting shu anyways

[full terrace]

Thing is, his dps is prohably inconsistent

Unless Wisadel or Ray, then they are consistent

[scarlet mortar]

@shell arch H14-4 went from wis + hibi to tragodia + 1* lmfao

[brisk surge]

is he trying to auto it ?

[full terrace]

Coz even if you miss one shot, their next shot will 100% kill the boss so

[scarlet mortar]

there's a tragodia durin duo but durin barely does anything

[full terrace]

Yah he is autoing, but with Thorns

[scarlet mortar]

she only exists to move cages

[full terrace]

Coz he copied Kyo's

Insane tech

[brisk surge]

🚬

theres so many people complaing about the farm

but ive autoed like 30 times without fail

[full terrace]

I havent failed an auto since I first created it

Yeh exactly

[narrow pendant]

Cuz they suck at the game

[full terrace]

Run a consistent dps

[brisk surge]

i even tried my 3 op clear

and its like

100% consistent

[glass monolith]

I don't have enough puns for "Here hold a cat" ready for that

[elder flume]

I can only see auto failing due to spin timing

Since spin timing isnt saved

[brisk surge]

but spin is always consistent tho

[elder flume]

Not for phase 2 start

[brisk surge]

oh phase 2

shuless moment

[shell arch]

Holy shit

[brisk surge]

what is phase 2

[maiden spire]

well it worked with wis at leastr

[shell arch]

HG just reinvented maggie s1m3 stall and make it better

[scarlet mortar]

maggie stall except it's like twice as potent and also does damage

[glass monolith]

Cat duration is "until enemy reach it" right? What happens if there is wall between cat and enemy in RA? Will enemy path 150 tiles maze to reach cat?

[scarlet mortar]

there's also the H11-2 duo with deepcolor where he turned SK into a joke

tentacles go from dying in 5s to living 3 speed-up cycles in p1

CW-S-4 CM

[wary wing]

as long as it is reachable
yes

but maps aren't that big

[pure orchid]

funnily enough, when i tried to make my consistent auto better, i broke it

[glass monolith]

Yes but... Roadblock stages

[pure orchid]

what if they just path through the wall lol

[glass monolith]

What it is? Chongus event with infinite speed up beacons?

[pure orchid]

nah im just being contrarian

or smth

[wary wing]

they cant

it has to be normally path-able

[pure orchid]

does anyone remember that one map in is4 with shattered champion and a bunch of roadblock

i cant remember the name, and i cant remember where their checkpoints are

but i have a feeling they only break roadblocks if theyre literally on top of their checkpoint

[shy estuary]

how tf are people clearing ep-8 with just "throw ulpianus at it"? ive been trying it like 30x and he just tps away from Ulpi, crashes out and kills everyone, then kills Ulpianus, sometimes Ulpianus even just dies :(, I am new so haven't got any of the fancy units either

[full terrace]

You stop the Shattered Champions from getting closer to the mid Roadblock

[pure orchid]

no no no im not talking abt the optimal way to play the stage

im talking abt how they manage to break the roadblock

[full terrace]

Their pathing is through that Roadblock

[brisk surge]

they walk

[pure orchid]

youre gonna have to be more specific lol

[brisk surge]

they walk into the roadblocks

[pure orchid]

for all we know they could just repath

but in some cases they dont

[full terrace]

You ask the devs why they coded their pathing that way

[pure orchid]

i really think its smth to do with pathing

[full terrace]

They have fixed pathing

[pure orchid]

frick i had the perfect stage in mind but i remember lappalt event isnt available yet

[full terrace]

You see them go zig zag there? Run forward and then move back a bit

How is normal pathing behaving like that

[pure orchid]

dont they fix with checkpoints tho

[full terrace]

Devs clearly scream at you "here, you see how they move? They have fixed pathing"

[slow ferry]

when is the next event that we'll be able to farm the grindstones

[full terrace]

And they break roadblocks

[brisk surge]

you cannot repath

[full terrace]

Idk about checkpoints but they dont follow normal roadblock pathing

[brisk surge]

they are literally pathed to break all roadblocks

[pure orchid]

okay yeah the checkpoints are on roadblock

yeah if the checkpoint wasnt on roadblock they wouldnt break it

[full terrace]

I always clear that stage with all Roadblocks intact

If yours is broken you are a noob bozo

[pure orchid]

so applying that to RA, where enemies almost never have checkpoints, they wont break walls unless they clip

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats turning point not checkpoint

[brisk surge]

just ascalon on the left 🥱

easy sweep stage

[full terrace]

Or just block really

[pure orchid]

so phantom cat is gonna have them walk miles

[glass monolith]

Something i can relate too as cat person

[pure orchid]

im tryna think of other stages with roadblocks that get broken

[brisk surge]

but but 1.7k damage per hit

[full terrace]

2 hits tank is all you need the kill the lizard 😏

I usually just throw Spot and let him die

[brisk surge]

so true

[full terrace]

But if I had Asca drafted

She helps a lot there

[brisk surge]

yeah ascalon is goated

so free honestly

i might have to selector mizuki for is mod as well

[full terrace]

Or Rosmo coz her Tactical VTEs are like concrete walls

[brisk surge]

since he might just be better

[full terrace]

I'm thinking the same

Then Protraction-focused play would be a thing

[brisk surge]

ye

hes also pretty cute

😏

[pure orchid]

holy shit

[scarlet mortar]

charm makes enemies unblockable

[pure orchid]

the tuba players do NOT want you to put roadblocks on their path

[scarlet mortar]

wait i was thinking of the prisoners stage mb

in that stage though there's only one path to the blue box so the roadblock logic is ignored

otherwise they should follow roadblock logic

[brisk surge]

how borken

[pure orchid]

they fixed the entire path by manually making every tile a checkpoint

[scarlet mortar]

[pure orchid]

its not elegant... but it works...

but yeah thats probably why you cant place any roadblocks where they were circling

[pure orchid]

wait does this mean they will just go through the roadblock then

[scarlet mortar]

think so

[pure orchid]

thats so lame...

love knows no bounds i guess

[shy estuary]

sry for late reply but you are a legend, this worked, this boss made me crash out for real

[scarlet mortar]

oh wait i remember the stage you're thinking of lmao

[brisk surge]

if you give enough shit about testing

make a private server

[scarlet mortar]

fuck i forgor the name

[pure orchid]

its pvs3

fun stage

[scarlet mortar]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Defense_Substituting_Offense

[pure orchid]

im pretty dumb with roadblock so i played the cm like cc

[full terrace]

Qyurii my friend, that is known

🤣🤣🤣

I'm just kidding

[brisk surge]

(arf isnt kidding)

🤫

[pure orchid]

i was cycling mosti suzu asca so hard

what no tuta does to a mf

[full terrace]

On this stage?

Why the hell you draft Mosti Suzu again? Where is your dps

[pure orchid]

no not that

pvs3

[full terrace]

Ah

[pure orchid]

that one is asca mly degen and wtvr random fk

kinda free really

[brisk surge]

[full terrace]

Bruh PV-S-3 just open and close the roadblocks to make them walk back and forth

[pure orchid]

yeah i cant do that lol

[full terrace]

It's just grouping

[brisk surge]

this stage is 1 oppable

[pure orchid]

like i just cant

[full terrace]

Say what 😂

[pure orchid]

idk how to explain it

cant as in just straight up incapable

not because of the enemies or stage, just me

[full terrace]

If you are having trouble just throw Ines thingy on the ground, that slows down everything that passes by it

The front ones will get slowed down so the ones at the back can catch up

It's just grouping

[pure orchid]

Yeah i know the theory

I just cant do it myself

[full terrace]

Once the ones at the back caught up, they are all on the same walk speed coz they are on Ines thingy

Amazing 😲

[pure orchid]

its like, the same reason some reedic yt videos choose to slow first before using her s3

[full terrace]

I thought thats the easiest thing to do

[pure orchid]

but this one for path manip

[full terrace]

You need to play more Field Runner

[pure orchid]

yeah i just have trouble with it

same trouble i suck at ra

all this freedom to path enemies and for what

idk how to path good

[brisk surge]

maybe we need to implement x.5 speed for qyurii

[pure orchid]

oh i just remembered an ra stage that also break roadblock

but i cant remember the name...

[full terrace]

I have no idea what stage you are talking about, I havent touched RA

[scarlet mortar]

the one that looks like a fork head?

[pure orchid]

hmmmm

maybe not

[scarlet mortar]

RA has some local pathing anw so i wouldn't know for sure what you're imagining

[pure orchid]

its a conflict node

with uhh

duelist croc from first gavial event

ah found it

thats pathing for the duelist croc

roadblock on d3 makes him go around, but d4 makes him go through

i remember being so dumbfounded

"oh i guess i accidentally found a checkpoint"

optimal placement would be e5 tho, but i only found that after a while

[scarlet mortar]

oh that one

yh i found that too

"wait why aren't they going the other wa- shit they're through already"

[pure orchid]

i love checkpoints

[scarlet fulcrum]

Most mobs in RA has that flash check points

[pure orchid]

beta headquarters map with absolutely 0 checkpoint 🥀

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://map.ark-nights.com/map/sandbox_1_02 for example this map, u can reroute mobs if place wall outside mobs checkpoint

Headquarters just focusing on center tbh

[pure orchid]

yeah it is

wow i never bothered to put roadblock on that stage

i just get my stone and go

[scarlet fulcrum]

The reason u can reroute em with certain setup, even there are gap between wall

I forgor the setup but its kinda unique

[glass monolith]

MY EP-8 FUCKING DESYNCED AGAIN

[still vessel]

[lofty stag]

[glass monolith]

How on earth i have unstable boss kill time if i fucking Mlynar him

[lofty stag]

Cuz Shu issue 🥱

[glass monolith]

Okay now stage enters cursed territory becuase for some unholy reason dude with barrel end up slower than pirate on top and wasn't pulled by gladiia because she was distracted by trash pirate

WHERE ARE YOU GOING?

[long thorn]

@civic bear @full terrace @lofty stag @narrow pendant @maiden hound Thank you guys, I got the map cleared.

[tidal sedge]

Yeah, IS 5 Ed 2A was indeed very easy. Didn't even need Golden Chalice, Old fan or Soul's furnace

[still vessel]

What diff

[weary grotto]

Hi, what type of strategy can we discuss here

Stage strat or op synergy stats?

[still vessel]

Mostly stages

And general gameplay strats like IS or events

[weary grotto]

Oh i see, where can i discuss random ops strat ideas?

[still vessel]

Here or #help prolly but synergy isn’t really something that we discuss

[glass monolith]

I tried to burst boss phase 2 after desyncs over fucking fear pathing.... Now i desync to boss activating blink invulnerability at different times....

[south spindle]

Op synergy isn’t something considered much in this game lol

If ops synergize well it’s a benefit sure

If they need synergy it’s more like a restriction imo

[weary grotto]

I just about about this strategy involving m3 s1 ceobe and max level module mostima

Simply put it is perma bind

[south spindle]

Sure that’s one thing but personally wouldn’t use ceobe in general content

If you wanna be silly might as well Ethan it

[glass monolith]

I feel all chapter 12 "3 block needed nuclear bullies" to Ceobe

[weary grotto]

Among these 3 operators who has very spammable skills, if you can make them even more spammable which one would be strongest: ceobe s1, leonhardth s2, minimalist s2

[haughty flower]

Ceobe by the simple benefit of being the only op in this list who's not complete, utter ass. But all three also lose out to a single good op's skill activation unless there's a rather specific enemy for ceobe to chew on.

[weary grotto]

Is 4 second very spammable for a nuke skill?

[elder flume]

It was perma stall with bug iirc

[hollow orchid]

any good stage for viviana module mission that defeat 10 elite enemy?

[elder flume]

OF-7

[weary grotto]

Why does night mare sucks?

[rich plover]

How often does Anastasio go for his AoE attack?

[elder flume]

20s and phase change

[rich plover]

So every 10s in 2x speed got it

Well, after it's baited

[elder flume]

Nightmare is kina bashed cuz people like damage and her best skill is S1 that doesnt do damage

S2 deals damage but also lowers damage due to slow

And she got nerfed to the ground with new rule of if they move over 4 tiles within 0.2s then the damage is invalid

[haughty flower]

If a skill takes under 10 seconds between activations normally, unless your name is Zuo Le it's not even close to a nuke.
And even for Zuo Le, his "nuke" only does ok damage per hit, petering a bit if def is too high.

[haughty flower]

S2 is still the funniest antisynergetic skill ever.
"You want the enemy to move more to take more true damage! ...but we're gonna slow down said enemy!"

[rich plover]

Where do I stall the boss during his Phase 1?

[elder flume]

What do you plan to do with boss first

[rich plover]

Kill him normally

[elder flume]

With?

[haughty flower]

What's even your team?

[rich plover]

Laptop and GG?

[elder flume]

Lapp hm

Thats gona lower dps quite a bit cuz fear huh

[rich plover]

Really?

[elder flume]

Phase 2 when unblocked deal 80% less damage

[haughty flower]

Only for the first 3 seconds.

It shouldn't massively affect his total dps unless he really frontloads it with another op.

[rich plover]

This my team

[haughty flower]

Gummy's a bit of a dud, especially here.

Low defense and a relatively weak skill means she kinda gets screwed by his spin attack.

[elder flume]

The goal is to kill cannons before phase 2

If you can do that with the time limit of your stall losing def each spin then should be no prob

[haughty flower]

I'd block him on the far side, to try and get Lappy to break the cannons first.

[maiden crescent]

with GG and Lappy you should be able to kill both cannons without even trying that hard--I was able to consistently get 1 with just lappy

[haughty flower]

The big issue with your team is a lack of good blockers for phase 2.

Do you have any other relatively tanky melee ops at your disposal?

[marble lava]

Sorry to jump in but I've had good luck with Cardigan and activating skill during his spin attack, tho not good for afk

Also body to throw

[haughty flower]

Beagle may genuinely be good enough.

[rich plover]

I do have all the 3*s at least

[weary grotto]

Why does nobody uses nightmare?

[haughty flower]

On skill she should last just long enough to get you through another third of his hp

[haughty flower]

#strategy message

[rich plover]

In terms of 4*, I have Bubble, Gummy, Dur-Nar, Lutonada, Matterhorn and Cuora

[elder flume]

I use Nightmare so thats invalid

[haughty flower]

Ignore all your 4* defender ops.

You have Cuora up alr and she's solid.

[rich plover]

Not sure about tanky Guards tho

[haughty flower]

I'd genuinely just max out beagle, use her to start phase 2, then spam cycle your vanguards/FRD until your phase 1 blocker, probably Cuora, refreshes

[elder flume]

If you really need stall inspiration theres this

Sussuro Jaye Gravel alr perma stall phase 1

[rich plover]

S1 or S2

[elder flume]

S2 all
Jaye you can just sub to your 2 defenders prob

More bodies

[rich plover]

Got it

How large is his AoE attack and what's his range?

[marble lava]

The enemy's?

[elder flume]

1.8 radius
Target prioritize op that doesnt have elemental damage dealt and its surrounding 8 ops

[marble lava]

Surrounding 8 ops is so bullshit

I cleared it with support Shu s3 cheese but trying to make it auto-deployable is so hard bc of phase 2

[elder flume]

Isnt Shu S3 supposed to make it so you dont fight phase 2

He just dies to salt thonk

[elder flume]

Ines slow alone alr kills him
Adding a blocker will do the same

[marble lava]

Yes

[elder flume]

Oh wait support

I cant read

[marble lava]

All good

[elder flume]

Owel

No Weedy Ange or Nymph to make it easier

[marble lava]

Angelina can make it easier?

With slow?

[elder flume]

Weightless for Weedy to push

.

[marble lava]

Will try this

Ty dokutah

[rich plover]

Find it funny how there's a suspiciously square shaped hole on the right side

[marble lava]

Ikr

[elder flume]

Oya i should prob start shilling stun for this boss

Can stun whenever he spin in phase 1 to cancel

Should make tanking requirements significantly drop

[marble lava]

TRUE I was surprised that i managed to cancel a phase 1 spin but i wasnt sure how bc it was just gravel, adnachiel, and cardigan

[rich plover]

Other than Click, what other 4* stunners are there?

[marble lava]

Or maybe it was Click

Yeah it was probably Clicky

[rich plover]

Caught in 4K

[marble lava]

teehee

Ethan, Myrtle

Pudding

Ethan is the best out of those 3 tho iirc

[elder flume]

May Ambriel

[marble lava]

May stuns??

Damn

My base slave got game

[rich plover]

I thought Ethan just Binds

Also, Myrtle?

[haughty flower]

I think silvergun acknowledges her as one of the better 4* marksmen

[marble lava]

wait

Hold on let me drink my coffee rq

[haughty flower]

Ethan "just" binds. However, when you do a job and do it quite well, that, in fact, makes you good.

[marble lava]

its too early

Ethan beloved

Myrtle does not stun, she heals

Missed opportunity tbh, I imagine getting hit with a flagpole makes people stumble

[rich plover]

Doesn't Saileach stun

[marble lava]

Yk I thought that suspiciously shaped hole had normal sandsea terrain traits

Not HOLE hole

Having a pull op makes so much sense

[marble lava]

I do not have our 2nd victorian queen so i have no clue

[rich plover]

Juana really made the boat have a black hole

[marble lava]

God bless Juana

Ough weedy....

No weedy to push 😔😔

[weak gazelle]

this is quite long to clear it huh even with camp red box :icant:

[maiden hound]

whuh...

[pure orchid]

erh

My jp8 auto break once in 8 runs

i wonder how to make nymph consistent

Or if i should just scrap this and build gladiia mod already

[elder flume]

just dont let him spin until fear no

[pure orchid]

Irene s3?

I believe i feared him all the time until i dropped surtr, the sole cause for him to spin

He usually dies shortly after

I wasnt watching my auto so idk what exactly happened wrong, i just came back to red screen

[smoky halo]

im not sure if fear rng is saved in auto deploy but if it is, then it should be consistent just dont get framedrops or someshit

if fear rng is not saved then eat shit u cant get it consistent L bozo

[elder flume]

meanwhile my EP-7 auto keeps breaking

[toxic flume]

Um is shu skill work on boss phase 2 in ep-8?

[elder flume]

if you use it during phase 1 yes

[toxic flume]

Welp let me try

Alr it work

[pure orchid]

I was just asking the former a few days ago, #help said yes

Probably just my phone being old again 👴

[smoky halo]

i dont trust help 🥹 but at the same time idk who to ask

[pure orchid]

Do u trust me at least 🥹

wtf is this

<@&586570970345635868>

[haughty flower]

CNN Espanol

[rapid junco]

Wow free moneh

[haughty flower]

When you check the lil news article they post at the start nothing lines up.

[rapid junco]

It's gone

[haughty flower]

It's the wrong kinda layout for BBC, the title is totally unprofessional...god, nothing's correct.

[pure orchid]

No more free money

[full terrace]

Hi ia

[narrow pendant]

My free money :realmad:

[rapid junco]

[pure orchid]

Hi wifey

[rapid junco]

Arf, give me will for playing ak

[pure orchid]

Stronghold protocol perma announced, rejoice !!!!

[rapid junco]

They should read my bio

[pure orchid]

Yeah im soaked

[still vessel]

wtf

🥀

[narrow pendant]

Hi🥹

[smoky halo]

it depends

‼️

if its for IS i only trust a handful of people 🥹

[pure orchid]

Yeah i wouldnt trust myself with IS either

[narrow pendant]

And surely im one of them

[lofty stag]

Qyurii only trusts those who leak on vermin

[pure orchid]

Yeah thats why i dont trust myself!!!

[smoky halo]

you can cope

you dont even play IS

[narrow pendant]

Yeah i do!

Grrr

[smoky halo]

proof?

[narrow pendant]

What proof :realmad:

[smoky halo]

that you play IS

[narrow pendant]

My words🫡 amd u watched me play

U donut

[pure orchid]

Yummy fib

[steel prairie]

you can also push him into the hole with a good pusher apparently

[smoky halo]

[smoky halo]

when

if i dont remember means u dont play enough ‼️

[narrow pendant]

Needs weedy and blockshifting
Not for avg goober

[narrow pendant]

Nope

[smoky halo]

wrong

[narrow pendant]

It means yoire old and amnestic

[smoky halo]

needs weedy + ange

and blockshift

ig hool also works

bro is weight 7

weedy without weightless does nothing

weedy with weightless shifts him for 0.03 tiles

broken

[marble lava]

if no weedy or shu, what to do aside from throwing bodies

[narrow pendant]

When u handheld is4 ed2 :realmad:

Old

[south spindle]

weedys just a good pusher

[brisk surge]

Kill him

[narrow pendant]

Nymph him inti the sand

[smoky halo]

make him dash to the hole

[narrow pendant]

Or just

Kill him

[south spindle]

can't you fear him

ya

[brisk surge]

Show vid

[smoky halo]

i don hab vid

[narrow pendant]

[marble lava]

no nymph

[smoky halo]

i dont record slop

[brisk surge]

I keep hearing this shit but no faking vid

[smoky halo]

just set it up urself

[marble lava]

How do I jebait him

[smoky halo]

u goober

[brisk surge]

Keep saying misinfo see what happens fib

[smoky halo]

similar to crownslayer tp into hole

[narrow pendant]

Then justt dont be a bozo and kill him
Hes not really tanky
Just 60k hp🥀

Thats less than the sand seals

[smoky halo]

just place ur blocker beside hole

[brisk surge]

It doesn't work that way fib

[smoky halo]

wat

[brisk surge]

He has cps

[smoky halo]

child protective services?

[brisk surge]

He won't go to hole

[marble lava]

that 60k hp doesnt feel like 60k sobs

[brisk surge]

The other one

[smoky halo]

wtf is the other one?

[elder flume]

its because he has dr when near cannon or unblocked

[crisp bolt]

dash doesn't work. We tried this already

[smoky halo]

60k is 5 virt procs bro

:clueless:

[smoky halo]

wat

real or faek

[marble lava]

I had an easier time killing mudidi in wolumonde than this

[brisk surge]

Bro I'm gonna kill you fib

[crisp bolt]

ye if you try to get him to dash from right above hole

he dashes right

[brisk surge]

I spent 3 hours testing

[south spindle]

lets just merc fib im in favor

[smoky halo]

😔

[marble lava]

string up fib??

[brisk surge]

It doesn't work

[elder flume]

i myself have indulged in this dash to hole and after an hour of attempt i am not able to

[brisk surge]

Faking liar

[marble lava]

https://tenor.com/view/d9luxe-chiikawa-gif-10374726918561322122

Everyone at Fib rn

[smoky halo]

wtf

[brisk surge]

So true

[smoky halo]

me when i spread misinformation

[pure orchid]

I indulged in cute sarkaz telling people to walk the plank

[south spindle]

fae should not be glazing fib on the tierlist

[brisk surge]

Fib is just like Fredi

[marble lava]

Ive cleared it with Shu support but i want my grindstone autodeploy

[south spindle]

blud is niche (derogatory) 🥹

[marble lava]

DEROGATORY 😭

[smoky halo]

wtf 😭

i only play niche 🥹

wcyd

[pure orchid]

Bro is getting demotion

[brisk surge]

Put fib with the specter shiller honestly

[south spindle]

twinknights*

[brisk surge]

🚬

[south spindle]

moro?

[smoky halo]

i play 4star only

[south spindle]

[smoky halo]

[crisp bolt]

fib show us your ep8 4* clear

[south spindle]

nah not subjecting fib to that

[marble lava]

Would it be possible to just surtr+texertosa+virtuosa the guy while being blocked by saria during phase 2

[lofty stag]

Fibs doing twinkknights

[marble lava]

Or is he gonna tp like a stupid.. stupif

[smoky halo]

he will dash

[south spindle]

integrated niches

[smoky halo]

soon™️

i havent even completed ch6 cos im lazy

[south spindle]

tps twice, 66/33% hp

[smoky halo]

theres no dead weeks to push story

and if there is i just farm red cert to pot6 the 4star red cert ops

🥹

[south spindle]

if you get virtuosa off on him its guranteed damage basically but shes not doing that much

[brisk surge]

Just block shift him off the map

[marble lava]

😔😔😔

[south spindle]

surtr will do damage, she can't die anyways

[crisp bolt]

logos s3 is really funny against ep8 boss

[marble lava]

I hate his tp i fail at that everytime

[smoky halo]

this niche sucks

[south spindle]

sin you have krooster?

[marble lava]

I do

[smoky halo]

u cant properly define it

[south spindle]

let me see

[lofty stag]

But defining it is ur job 🥹

[brisk surge]

It's up to personal taste duh

[marble lava]

https://www.krooster.com/u/sinpurity

[smoky halo]

then its a bad niche

cos u cant define it

wisadel is a twink gg easy niche

thoughts?

[brisk surge]

What if you make the list

[marble lava]

Wisadel twink nation???

[smoky halo]

yep

[brisk surge]

And arkrec follows

Thoughts?

[smoky halo]

😭 this shit is not gonna work

theres gonna be endless arguments cos its opinionated

[elder flume]

if youre blocking then Virt isnt doing much

[brisk surge]

Just say you're Chinese

[elder flume]

Texalt S2 right

[brisk surge]

It works

[smoky halo]

nop

[elder flume]

oh S2L7

[marble lava]

Yeah i switched to s2 after watching ur clear

ty for not spreading misinformation ily

Unlike SOMEONE

[south spindle]

Tex2 on the cannons
Mlynar Surtr should be enough damage

who was spreading misinfo? fib?

[narrow pendant]

U

[brisk surge]

Rain you know what's funny

[elder flume]

mod2 matters more but might wana M1 it to clear cannon in 1 go

[marble lava]

Tex2 did clear cannons fast asf, but where would i position mylnar and surtr for phase 2?

[brisk surge]

I can't break cannon with sl7 mod2
So I used her with ela mines to one cycle

[elder flume]

that works

with Ela you can mine the bridgemaker to sink

[smoky halo]

i can say that my mod3 m3 texalt 1 cycles cannon

:clueless:

[south spindle]

he walks down the left most column then walks back up on the 2nd column
mlynar on column 3 lower tile

im going off memory

[marble lava]

So mylnar column 3 facing left?

[south spindle]

would be good if you could chunk him to low in phase 1 or so

[marble lava]

and then surtr to give him a big kiss on column 1?

[south spindle]

also you should try to get surtr to chunk him in phase 1

yes

want to cycle surtr as much as possible

[marble lava]

Surtr s3 yes?

[south spindle]

ya ofc, shes expected to die

[marble lava]

Okok, wanted to confirm

Heard some people used surtr s2 and i was like ?????

[full terrace]

If you Surtr the shield dude, you can 1 cycle Ulpi that boss

[south spindle]

idk much about surtr s2 tbh

[marble lava]

I dont think anyone does

[smoky halo]

wtf does surtr s2 do

[marble lava]

Doesnt exist

[smoky halo]

yep

[south spindle]

oh surtr s2 is higher ST damage?

wtfart that skill exists huh

[smoky halo]

is the missing survivaiblity worth the trade off 🥹

[brisk surge]

This boss has such little hp that 2ops sexas + asca is enough for the whole stage

[elder flume]

sometimes Surtr S2 is used ye

[smoky halo]

proof?

[elder flume]

no masteries sucks tho

[brisk surge]

Look on arkrec bozo

Dalao Still want spoonfeed

[marble lava]

True..

Still working towards that

LMD

brokeknights

Im surprised they dont let us convert yellow rock to lmd for the desperate dokutah

but ty ty @elder flume and @south spindle i shall bang my head against the wall with this strat

[pure orchid]

That would be so fkn ass

[marble lava]

It would be but there would be use

[smoky halo]

im lazy

😇

[pure orchid]

Yh its just the dr making him somehow tanky tbh

[smoky halo]

and i want u to clear

ur pro

[pure orchid]

Without that he is paper

[smoky halo]

how much dr does he have anyway?

[elder flume]

this was what i did for one of my runs
if cannonless just 3 Texalt deploys is enough tbh

[marble lava]

Stainless

Did you block the boss on the left side?? Kind of crazy

[brisk surge]

80

[smoky halo]

das kinda big

🥹

[south spindle]

Nymph Virtuosa

He doesn't dash if not blocked right...

[brisk surge]

Correct

[south spindle]

Why did I ask that I did him unblocked

memory loss

[marble lava]

How did you kill him unblocked?

[brisk surge]

Fell off

[marble lava]

oh

Yeah that checks out

[brisk surge]

All because your family came over light

Smh

[marble lava]

Shu.....

Why is bro so HEAVY

7 weight

[south spindle]

Uh just blasted him with everything but Wisadel

[smoky halo]

weight 7

ye

[marble lava]

That twink is NOT packing

[south spindle]

Mlynar Logos Virtuosa Lapp2 Ascalon

[brisk surge]

He's not even weight 10 like kalsit 🥱

[marble lava]

Patriot is weight 7 ffs

[south spindle]

Logos solos patriot even with his 80 res

[marble lava]

Delete button

[smoky halo]

kal is fat

[brisk surge]

Mmm

Yeah she could sit on me

🚬

[smoky halo]

🚬

[marble lava]

[worn coral]

Does using ethan remove his def

[steel prairie]

yeah I saw a lot of people use Texas Alter to remove the catapults (sadly I dont have a Texas Alt)

you either use Texas Alter or use Weedy to push him in and clear both Phases

[elder flume]

When unblocked, it performs a ranged attack, dealing 50% of its attack power to friendly units within 8 squares of the target.

In the first form, it does not accumulate a fall count when
entering the salt desert
terrain. When in 8 squares around the Salt Cannon , the physical/spell damage taken is -80%.
When the health is below 1%, it will regenerate for 10 seconds, recovering 10% of its health per second
. After the regeneration ends, if it has not reached the preset position, it will flash to the preset position, then enter the second form and summon the Salt Cannon (which may include a group of additional enemies), gaining 10 seconds of invincibility.

In the second form,
it gains +200% movement speed, +50 attack speed, and is immune to stun.
When unblocked, it takes -80% of its physical/spell damage.
When on the field, enemies other than itself will gain the following effects after they appear on the field: +50% attack power, 150 health points are lost per second, for 20 seconds. When blocked, summon a Salt Cannon Bullseye
at the center of the tile where the unit blocking itself is located.

Idk where you get def from

[slim wyvern]

Lapp alter is also a good cannon destroyer given that the enemies are typically pathing behind the cannons and will bait the S3 wolves onto them.

[rich plover]

Wow, Anas is that easy huh?

[slim wyvern]

I feel like he took a little more thought then some of the recent bosses given his skill makes him a walking death radius. Well, assuming you don't just put him in the sand/hole.

[rich plover]

Shoutout to FRDs

[haughty flower]

Walking death radius until you realize he's like Exusiai and folds to a certain 4* defender.

Hell, Quartz and a healer hold him.

[slim wyvern]

His bypass gimmick is the other thing that makes him a bit annoying.

[rich plover]

Just grab another Defender

[haughty flower]

For the last 33% of phase 2 you can just spam your spare vanguards/frd's

First 66% you should be able to split box him back into the same blocker using a spare op last I checked.

[crystal meteor]

Theres a weird bug with anastasio where you cant place a mine on the tile he died of phase 1

Nymph broken! 111😱

[elder flume]

its not about dying

its about marking

cant place mine on mark

[limpid ore]

the cannon crosshair counts as enemy or something

[glass monolith]

I swear, whatever cursed shit I could trigger triggered

[haughty flower]

Techno
What da hell is a polar bear doing in Arlington Texas?

[sly drift]

Man.. I want tecno so bad

But rate off fked me

[glass monolith]

Offrates were kind to me... But fuck it 160 pulls for Thorn

[sly drift]

How would you rate tecno as *5 from 1 to 10

Oh wait.. you haven't raise her

[glass monolith]

Trust farm while i have motivation paralysis

[narrow pendant]

Around 5 or 6🥹

[brisk surge]

you dont even have her

resident yapper

tecno is definitely one of the better 5 stars

[narrow pendant]

How can u know that

🥱

[merry narwhal]

I didn't max out mine yet, but so far it looks like her main weakness is that she doesn't start with a summon when you deploy her, so it's hard to put her down first to get the summon train rolling

ig they didn't want the new archetype to powercreep summoners right away

Eblana doesn't count

[dapper hedge]

Banana doesn't exactly powercreep them either

The summons still limited within their range

[rugged lava]

Are *5 good or they are just wasting resources for upgrade?
.
they r more expensive to build but dont have good specific utility like 6 star, all just stronger stat hugely compared 4 star. especially, healers fast deploy and support

and i also wonder if vanguard 5 and 6 star is good or no. they cant generate faster and more efficient than myrtel M3. making them E2 is hell farming too

[scarlet mortar]

the agents are better, other archetypes aren't worth generally

[narrow pendant]

They are

5* flag is better than myrtle for example

Since like, myrtle is a low bar tbh

[scarlet mortar]

ok correction, i meant the only archetype worth building if you've raised an M3 myrtle is agents

ely is better than myrtle yh

it's just that a second flag is ehhhh low prio

[elder flume]

depends

5stars usually have outliers that others cant have access to when it comes to specific utility

[noble pewter]

Just get shamare, apply 50% atk debuff to alguacil, his skill 20 sec cd, urs 15 sec

Watch him do 750/2 dmg, means 375 def unit already can tank 10 hits no prob

[void terrace]

He does do corrosion damage

So watch out for him reducing your defence

Even with shamare

[clever tendon]

can someone help with building a team?

[limber fox]

Warfarin is a good good medic
Kroos is essential for beginners

Aim at getting Tequila from Dossoles Holiday-5 and Kroos alter from Invitation to Wine-5

[mighty tangle]

chat where is the boss path?

i've never faced this one

[limber fox]

Upper left box, all the way to the right

Thru the stone

[mighty tangle]

i see thanks

[limber fox]

Iirc

[timid nacelle]

this stage is ass ye

especially at high diff

[vocal leaf]

you not only had nothing for that stage, you also misplaced the roadblock

you should’ve blocked the rock guys, it was probably doable if kal was e2

[dark mantle]

Ur supposed to use the roadblock for one of the 4 enemies

nothing comes top lane besides a chest

[mighty tangle]

didn't know that

[smoky halo]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1CyF2ebEkt

this shit is so peak bruh

[pure orchid]

this shit is so not peak bruh 🥀

[dark mantle]

damn qyurii known 8 normal dier

[pure orchid]

fuck nymph bruh can she just do her job please

[narrow pendant]

Do not fuck nymph

Police will come for you

[remote perch]

no

[narrow pendant]

Wym no :realmad:

[remote perch]

[narrow pendant]

Shes the hug and cuddle type grrr

[remote perch]

Nu, she's the cute and funny type

[narrow pendant]

[glass monolith]

I Come, I Auto, I Desync

[somber falcon]

just have stable run with shu

[pure orchid]

me w no shu

[somber falcon]

L bozo

[pure orchid]

aw

[somber falcon]

Skill issue smh

Should've rolled for rice dragon

[crystal meteor]

Not everyone have shu, just use weedy ange

[pure orchid]

my rice dragon literally turn into

flame tail

was 60+ pulls too

i was still getting my luck back 🥹

[somber falcon]

Sounds like trash luck 🚮

[pure orchid]

yeah yeah my portfolio says otherwise bozo

[somber falcon]

Surely the portfolio you made yourself is not biased :clueless:

[pure orchid]

ehhh you can just search #salt-mines for yourself 🥱

oh im on the verge of a stable ep8 auto

i just need to find the perfect ines placement

[full terrace]

IS5 Ending 2a: The Court of Souls

This wasnt the cleanest clear coz the freaking game refused to give me Medic Vouchers. I couldnt draft Kaltsit despite the Civilight Eterna relic

But this should be good enough for future reference in case someone is asking about the stage

[leaden kraken]

Is there any point in Rolling for the new Thorns?

If you have almost all operators up till now

[full terrace]

He is okay in combat, but he is one of the best Gold Bar makers

In base

So its up you

If you have all ops til now, might as well pull to optimize your base

[narrow pendant]

Hes pretty mid so not really worth grabbing

[lapis hornet]

pull and 90 u say

roger that 🫡