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#strategy
narrow pendant
summer meteor
narrow pendant
All of them are easy as fuckš„
west kraken
so for this event boss, the gimmick is that he reflects dmg while shield is up? or smth? must you have a helidrop defender?
limpid ore
what shield?
west kraken
he killed lappy and wisdel so hard I hardly believe it...
limpid ore
he does irene s3 every 20s that also deal corrosion damage
west kraken
he does irene s3 every 20s that also deal corrosion damage
so after he does that skill hes vulnerable for a moment? Phase 1 is easy tho
scarlet mortar
you don't need a helidrop defender, more like multiple relatively built defenders
limpid ore
a single target of 10 hits splash damage
he has 80% dmg reduction when is not blocked in phase 2
scarlet mortar
since the corrosion damage doesn't generally have a counter, he effectively cuts your defender's def every time he uses the skill
you deal with that by swapping your defender out
west kraken
so whos the best defender? Viviana?
scarlet mortar
vivi is not a defender
scarlet mortar
you don't need a helidrop defender, more like multiple relatively built defender...
^
west kraken
so what recommended defenders?
limpid ore
well raised cuora, bubble and matterhorn are enough
scarlet mortar
there's a 3* clear by rotating cardigan spot beagle
just use anyone better than them that you have E1'd
west kraken
rarity is not a concern
limpid ore
even *3 defender works
fleet gulch
is it just me or ep 8 auto just doesnt work sometimes š
limpid ore
you just need body to cancel his dmg reduction at phase 2
fleet gulch
well i use nymph to push the boss off the map
but autos just never register her attack
limpid ore
off the ship
west kraken
limpid ore
salt immunity is phase 1 only
fleet gulch
wait you can push the boss off the map?
not push, like you know the lapter skill 3 thing and nymph stuff
where the boss will walk in other direction
west kraken
ohhh
fleet gulch
autos just never worked somehow because its always different everytime
elder flume
Ye phase 2 start spin is rng
prisma swift
huh so its not my problem
narrow pendant
My auto is stable without the need to redo it
prisma swift
what did u use
verbal wharf
If I had to use a support unit to help me a lot, independently of what characters I have, for the current IS, which one would it be?
glass monolith
My auto phase 2 does whatever the F it want then gets feared in some random ass direction instead salt
tidal sedge
If I had to use a support unit to help me a lot, independently of what character...
Wis
prisma swift
huh yeah shu i wonder why its so consistent
narrow pendant
U can have it consistent without using shu strat tho
elder flume
Mine is stable enough even with different spin timing
Since the invincibility timing is the same
full terrace
If I had to use a support unit to help me a lot, independently of what character...
It's Wisadel. How I see it, Hypergryph designed IS5 with her in mind, so there are a lot of things you could solve just by having her in your active squad. I'm not saying that she is absolutely needed, you can always use other ops setting them up in a way that matches her performance, but thats basically just emulating her performance in the end, so it's easier to just use her, and so she is the answer you seek: a Suppoet Unit that helps you a lot independently of what units you possess.
narrow pendant
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dapper hedge
Kill the shadows to open more safe space, kill theresis
narrow smelt
Kill the shadows to open more safe space, kill theresis
The swallowing guys are insane
I can barely give support to the left side
And I focus too much on there what am I gonna kill theresis with
full terrace
If you cant even lanehold, you have ops issue. Typhon, Blaze, Texas in this map are pretty lacking both in laneholding and defeating Theresis
Also what difficulty is this
vivid rain
Typhon, blaze and texas doesnt do SHIT for any of the bosses so iād recommend drafting other units if you have them
Blaze and typhon are also kinda just stinky in general
narrow smelt
If you cant even lanehold, you have ops issue. Typhon, Blaze, Texas in this map ...
@vivid rain
vivid rain
damn these option blows š„
narrow smelt
200~ pulls and nothing on wisadel banner gmfu
full terrace
Uh yeah unfortunately you have a bit of ops issue. If this is a low diff, I'd suggest you do a triple borrow start like this #strategy message and do the usual IS5 routine: grabbing lamp, cultivate Shrivels from F1, grabbing Kings Relic
narrow smelt
it's 3
full terrace
That should give you a bit more option to work with
narrow smelt
difficulty 3
full terrace
Yeah 3 is fine
vocal leaf
It's Wisadel. How I see it, Hypergryph designed IS5 with her in mind, so there a...
i donāt think thereās correlation, wis was just lowlight making her favorite operator into the most broken op in the game simply because he likes her 
itās her favorite child and thatās it
narrow smelt
Uh yeah unfortunately you have a bit of ops issue. If this is a low diff, I'd su...
I don't know the routine thing you're talking about
prisma ledge
I don't know the routine thing you're talking about
U just borrow Support units
Vanguard Specialist Sniper huh
full terrace
i donāt think thereās correlation, wis was just lowlight making her favorite ope...
I disagree with that, after playing the thing countless times, I got this nuance that the way those stages are designed felt very Wisadel-influenced. I know you are against using her because of your bias, but letting that bias influences your judgment I'd say it's not an objective evaluation, you may have your own opinion tho, I respect that.
IS4 for example, was not designed with her in mind, and her presence there trivializes a lot of things and this can be felt
prisma ledge
I don't know the routine thing you're talking about
Oh yeah, the first floor (F1), get the stages/nodes with plans, find an encounter that gives u 3 options and u choose Lamp instead of Talons and start with Spearhead Squad so u begin with 1 life for kings collectibles.
And try not to gain life points, shield is fine.
full terrace
I don't know the routine thing you're talking about
The routine is exactly that. Do a triple borrow start, look for Lamp Encounter and Shrivels Encounter
At F1
Then you start your run for real at F2
narrow smelt
lamp?
prisma ledge
People be dying at F2 for reals
vocal leaf
I disagree with that, after playing the thing countless times, I got this nuance...
itās not bias this time tho, i mean if you like sheās good there or that fits especially better there itās because she can be good everywhere else
prisma ledge
from the thing that gives u doodle of hope?
Yes but uh, dont pick that tbh
full terrace
Reset useless nodes such as Encounters to Wish Fulfilled and grab the Kings set
narrow smelt
Which one is lamp
prisma ledge
Which one is lamp
The third option
narrow smelt
What it do
wary wing
it rigs wish nodes
prisma ledge
First one is Doodle, Second one is Talons, which is arguably strong option for Emergency Nodes but more patience or simply speedrun with the third option being Lamp.
vocal leaf
and itās a fact that lowlight loves wis, it makes sense that he just wanted to reintroduce her as a more functional operator, there was barely a real reason for her to have an alter and not just skin, but devs sometimes donāt really care about that
narrow smelt
n then I try go get wish nodes or
narrow pendant
Talon is still strongest, lamp is 2ndš„¹ i loce em fights
prisma ledge
n then I try go get wish nodes or
Lamp gives u +10 ingots but thats actually not the main reason why its so cheesy
Its to do with Wish Fulfilled rerolls
And collectibles rigging
narrow pendant
Rerolling the nodes..
narrow pendant
Well u can refresh Encounters to Wish Fulfilled easier if u have Plans
U can refresh any stage
narrow smelt
Well u can refresh Encounters to Wish Fulfilled easier if u have Plans
oh ok
narrow pendant
Not just encounter
prisma ledge
U can refresh any stage
Ye but I just wanna keep Lost and Found and Emergency Combat
Sometimes Rogue Trader nodes
prisma ledge
one that gives plans or
If possible, Blueprint Squad lmfao
I think u gotta unlock it first tho
narrow smelt
I have it unlocked
prisma ledge
Oh nvm there u go
narrow smelt
alr then I'll try this out ig
full terrace
itās not bias this time tho, i mean if you like sheās good there or that fits es...
There is a difference between trivializing things vs making things easier. She is good everywhere yes, if you draft her in IS4 for example, she can handle a lot of things alone, thats trivializing it. In IS5, she does make things easier but often times she is not trivializing things, you still need unit A and unit B to assist here and there. Easier illustration would be, in IS4 the relicless solves almost never use her, while in IS5 some of the relicless solves do use her, you can see that she is closer to being needed than a luxury, this is what I'm saying
narrow smelt
what's a good lane holder for the left side on the fight tho
Theresa and theresis fight
And I need someone to kill theresis
prisma ledge
Idk, depends on ur roster
narrow smelt
I posted it above
prisma ledge
Sometimes u might not even need lane holder
narrow smelt
First image you'll see when you scroll
prisma ledge
Because apparently IS#5 is just ranged operators supremacy with fast redeploys
cough attack speed relics on flingers with Grey Alter
full terrace
You can argue all you want about coping with other units that are not her, I'm not saying it's not possible to be solved without her, but if you are using other units to cope thats basically just emulating her performance, then it's better to just use her directly
narrow smelt
I fucking hate necrosis
prisma ledge
Its funny how each IS has favoured certain classes
vocal leaf
Because apparently IS#5 is just ranged operators supremacy with fast redeploys
do you still use texas/yato in is5?
narrow pendant
And ops like blaze are kinds defaultly bad in is
So its just a bit of a unoptimal roster
narrow smelt
go my level 1 hoederer
prisma ledge
do you still use texas/yato in is5?
Dont own Yato but I use Texalter, literally holy crap her value is insane
Is#5 moment
pure orchid
yato is still really good
prisma ledge
yato is still really good
I know but shes limited unit I think... so :(
narrow pendant
Just make a time machine, hubby
prisma ledge
worse, shes collab
Welp Im screwed. But hey, I got Texalter so thats my consolation prize
pure orchid
i already have her š„±
vocal leaf
i stopped using frd in is5, not saying theyāre bad, but theyāre not a priority for me anymore
pure orchid
i literally returned from quitting just to pull her, then quit again
keen gull
i stopped using frd in is5, not saying theyāre bad, but theyāre not a priority f...
U would need them soon on ed5
keen gull
But i heard just gravel is enuf idkš„
pure orchid
whats egg
prisma ledge
Its funny how each IS has favoured certain classes
For example, IS2 is generally just guardknights with mostly Thorns carry. I havent started IS3 so no comment. is4 is just defenders gaming with reed alter and aoe burst to deal with mob rush. Then is5 is well... flingers gaming, wide range and fast redeploys.
vocal leaf
U would need them soon on ed5
kinda like ed2? i mean for bait or for the dps, i always avoid spoilers
narrow pendant
Is2 thorns carry...thats so 2021š„
keen gull
Not bait for dps
vocal leaf
Not bait for dps
then how gravel is enough? 
pure orchid
thorns was a carry back in is2 days yeah
keen gull
Its used to reveal smt i forgot hold on
prisma ledge
Is2 thorns carry...thats so 2021š„
Im so in love with this, I dont wanna use Wisadel support
keen gull
pure orchid
just not on ed2 lol
prisma ledge
just not on ed2 lol
I still hate Big Sad Lock
Speaking of which
A15 BSL
What the actual
vocal leaf
Is2 thorns carry...thats so 2021š„
it was the instant e2 as well, e1 thorns is as good as midnight
prisma ledge
150k barrier every 45s
Like excuse me, thats not even possible
scarlet mortar
except it is lol
prisma ledge
Crazy
scarlet mortar
HG saw the relicless 3op and thought "hm! this map must be too easy for 2025 ops. let's quintuple the difficulty"
vocal leaf
bsl had me using chalter schwarz i think
someone used to say schwarz is all you need for is3, good times, now is gone 
prisma ledge
mandatory letter it seems
The videos on Youtube showcasing A15 BSL made my eyes cry
vocal leaf
where are the only schwarz is4 and is5?
keen gull
pure orchid
we need to raise cirno from the dead
glass monolith
150k barrier every 45s
And don't forget timer for next barrier doesn't stop by such detail as IT BEING UP
scarlet mortar
where are the only schwarz is4 and is5?
prisma ledge
HG saw the relicless 3op and thought "hm! this map must be too easy for 2025 ops...
This reminds me of one thing
dark mantle
Ray released and since she's straight up better than schwarz he stopped the cope and retired
prisma ledge
Powercreep
HG released Wisadel so now it seems they wanna just go up in difficulty to keep up with Wis powercreep by mechanics or pure stat check, then they decide to release an operator more broken than Wisadel a year later or two, and the cycle continues...
pure orchid
eh its not as bad as other games
i heard hsr meta changes every few months or so for example
1.5 years is forgiving
scarlet mortar
powercreep suc
prisma ledge
1.5 years is forgiving
It is
scarlet mortar
even if it's not as bad, it's not good
vocal leaf
HG released Wisadel so now it seems they wanna just go up in difficulty to keep ...
is this really true? people used to say that they were delaying cc because of her, was that the case?
scarlet mortar
pure orchid
plus ep stage and boss design is anti wis in an interesting way
pure orchid
even if it's not as bad, it's not good
world is unfortunately not ideal
scarlet mortar
alas
pure orchid
is this really true? people used to say that they were delaying cc because of he...
nah they just want to experiment with more gamemodes
vocal leaf
now it seems that simply want to make cc a yearly thing and we got more diverse events instead
pure orchid
which im actually on board with
pure orchid
now can i have my stronghold protocol pls
prisma ledge
is this really true? people used to say that they were delaying cc because of he...
I dont think HG wants the entire playerbase to just "Wisadel it" for every content, otherwise shiz gets boring and they lose their players because their content is not fresh or challenging enough for casuals and veterans alike
scarlet mortar
they're gonna rename that mode i'm pretty sure
tidal sedge
Do elemental injuries stacked?
Like if you have already applied burn to the enemy and wanted to apply the necrosis effect
scarlet mortar
if they're ever rerunning it
scarlet mortar
Do elemental injuries stacked?
Like if you have already applied burn to the en...
no
pure orchid
make it permanent š
scarlet mortar
the first to proc resets the others
tidal sedge
I see
prisma ledge
now can i have my stronghold protocol pls
I genuinely enjoyed that mode, if it werent for the starting 3 healers...
pure orchid
autochess is literally the genre that led me to arknights, despite the latter being a td
prisma ledge
Abbysal Hunter Thorns
scarlet mortar
the lore of stronghold protocol was kal simulating RI being attacked so like
prisma ledge
20k HP Ulpipi
scarlet mortar
meanwhile i'm sure people really like trials for navigators!!!!
(why tf is it back
prisma ledge
(Please let us create our squad so we can experiment thank you)
vocal leaf
they need the balance the shop and money income, it was so scuffed in hard mode for no reason
prisma ledge
they need the balance the shop and money income, it was so scuffed in hard mode ...
That one was weird but I just relied on ending asap before the enemy scales too fast
pure orchid
shop was fine imo, i think the enemies just scale too hard
scarlet mortar
i mean the map mechanic's cool and all
but they're kinda running out of bosses/mechanics which fuck up half the map i think
vocal leaf
shop was not fine, they spam 3stars at higher lvl shop
prisma ledge
shop was fine imo, i think the enemies just scale too hard
Literally the same complaint about enemy scaling lol
scarlet mortar
also the pathing design is ehhhhh
prisma ledge
shop was not fine, they spam 3stars at higher lvl shop <:HellaHands:888785522439...
Simply sell fodders and reroll
pure orchid
i cannot imagine myself being scared at zaaro
like i will see him
and be like okay bye
prisma ledge
i cannot imagine myself being scared at zaaro
Lappland is best friends with Zaaro (real)
vocal leaf
Simply sell fodders and reroll
this was another problem, why everyone has the same cost despite rarity
prisma ledge
this was another problem, why everyone has the same cost despite rarity
Thats true lmfao, my 6* sell cost is 1 cost wtf
Just half it š
pure orchid
this was another problem, why everyone has the same cost despite rarity
thats just ur standard autochess things
vocal leaf
this what i mean they need to balance both shop and money income, it could be better
prisma ledge
exu alter in tfn
The ost for Massess Travel is my vibes
pure orchid
be thankful they dont increase buy cost per rarity like other autochess
prisma ledge
be thankful they dont increase buy cost per rarity like other autochess
Oh pls
That mechanic
Like just why
prisma ledge
Yeah
pure orchid
and we kind of do that too, just with barge lvl
prisma ledge
Its just barge level but if it was for the operators too, then uh
Economy will crash
Items exist too
pure orchid
i think in other autochess, "barge lvl" is just for number of units you can put on the board
prisma ledge
i think in other autochess, "barge lvl" is just for number of units you can put ...
Yea
Its also
Increasing rarity chances as well
prisma ledge
oh i dont rmbr that
Yea lmao
TFT does that too
Higher level "commander" means more chances for higher rarity characters
The earlier u max level ur commander, the earlier u get those expensive units
Which sounds great and all, but sometimes it punishes u for being too greedy
pure orchid
yup same here
timid nacelle
ye u level up your shop to get better units in it and an extra slot to put units on board
tho u also need exp that u get from fighting other players to level up
also there's an interest mechanic where u gain 1 gold per 10 u own up to a max of 5
prisma ledge
Autochess are like that, Arknights just gives u waves of enemy AIs lol
pure orchid
im just thinking how to solve the perceived economy problem in SP
cus i personally didnt see any
timid nacelle
it's fun once u get into it but gets borin really fast
pure orchid
okay but imagine multiplayer SP
timid nacelle
probably because arknights doesn't fit the genre
prisma ledge
it's fun once u get into it but gets borin really fast
The problem is
pure orchid
god i hope they cook with that
prisma ledge
Where is "Creative Mode"
pure orchid
probably because arknights doesn't fit the genre
nah i can kinda see the vision
not fully, but with a little creativity, it just might
timid nacelle
it's a single player game that has like
heeps of broken units
prisma ledge
Why cant I change my starting lineup after finishing the SP content
timid nacelle
they need to balance everything
prisma ledge
:(
prisma ledge
okay but imagine multiplayer SP
This reminds me
Icebreaker Rhode Island or smthing
Multiplayer event
Two players working together in realtime
timid nacelle
co op was lag fiesta for me
pure orchid
yeah
timid nacelle
couldn't enjoy it
crystal meteor
Yeah its called endfield
pure orchid
coop is gonna suck but maybe things that dont require both players input at the same time will work
SP has potential for that
and we already have gambling in CN
prisma ledge
Wadapak
glass monolith
Gamble which side will win: ā
Gamble how much players will crash on 150 dogs round: 
dapper hedge
okay but imagine multiplayer SP
Should work ala like any other auto chess right
Make it like limited pool for the operators shared by players in the room or smt
mental comet
Is there any stable trust farm strat that doesn't use Shu?
pure orchid
nymph is pretty stable
timid nacelle
one guy gets wisadel early and yall cooked
vocal leaf
Is there any stable trust farm strat that doesn't use Shu?
ulpi/gladiia itās pretty stable
vocal leaf
i use 4 ops, thorns ulpi gladiia texalt
mental comet
Regular thorns?
prisma ledge
Regular thorns?
Yes
dapper hedge
Thornsalt does nothing
vocal leaf
yeah, but heās only for the flying things
prisma ledge
Just Thorns to cover the entrance
And Texalter for cannons then sandwich with Ulpi s3 and Gladia to hook trash mobs into the hole
vocal leaf
i also used texalt to kill boss p1
mental comet
I see Ill try that.
vocal leaf
does shu team use less ops?
mental comet
does shu team use less ops?
That what I always see on YT. It is all Shu+Wis core
sly drift
Any tips here so that I can first attempt win it and then go away for a few months not playing this garbage mode again.
south spindle
Hey
Yeah I dug up that guys github
Thereās a tool JUST for reconstructing frame data
Itās pretty schizo I didnāt bother trying to run it, but am considering making my own universal calculator
dark mantle
Any tips here so that I can first attempt win it and then go away for a few mont...
5 stack sniper wis S1
elder flume
Anastasio rng
ionic goblet
I ended up redoing it a few times to take some RNG into account
south spindle
How many endings ate there btw
theres 4 different endings
and variations of ed1/2 based on 3 things: mental toil fractured / rolling ancestors relic / ed4 relic
the rolling ancestors makes for a signifcantly harder stage version with different name, map layout, and enemies entirely
we call these the alternate endings
but the official terra wiki has a alternate ending section, but that refers to the fractured version of each stage
kind of mismatch in terminology between us and the wiki
and theres no seperate pages on the ed4 relic version, but it spawns ed4 boats + signifcantly increased boss hp
astral cosmos
hm i need to find a way to optimise my ep8 clear so that it doesn't fucking explode half the time 
glass monolith
Proceeds to optimize into exploding 75% of times
astral cosmos
anastasio could dash into the salt? haven't really seen any clear on this so idk where exactly u can force him to do that
vivid rain
Anastasio rng
Wait whatās the rng here i cant see
brisk surge
anastasio could dash into the salt? haven't really seen any clear on this so idk...
blockshift
astral cosmos
ya ik this much
but u don't have to actually shift him beforehand?
brisk surge
no
look up videos from arf
its somewhere in this channel
some reason blockshifting him always pushes his dashes slightly to the left
thats why you can make him die in salt but you cant make him die to hole without some shifting
glass monolith
I would rather auto IW-9 or 10 or when was this 15 blocks of shit boss over EP-8. And IW boss was not farm stage
spark sinew
the worst part are the shitty flyers
astral cosmos
greythroat eats them for breakfast 
glass monolith
I have no convenient way to spawn kill them 
glass monolith
Ok I erase myself out if here before he convinces me to m9 Silverash
timid nacelle
s2m3 is never an option
spark sinew
greythroat eats them for breakfast <:LiskarmShrug:1006461107742986282>
ok but i do trustfarm
glass monolith
ok but i do trustfarm
I optimized from 12 operators to 9 operators + 3 trusts because I don't want to have another auto take 30 minutes to 6/6 after Virtuosa rerun
spark sinew
and i thought my 12 sub 200 trust and ling was bad
crisp bolt
quick question, what's shining attack at level 60?
timid nacelle
I optimized from 12 operators to 9 operators + 3 trusts because I don't want to ...
just do aketon or sugar instead
we get better and way faster grindstone farmin later
spark sinew
how much better
astral cosmos
quick question, what's shining attack at level 60?
let me finish my (finally stable!) ep8 auto and i'll tell
spark sinew
sugar is sugar, and aketon is probably like this for most people anyway
astral cosmos
i have 3 aketon
timid nacelle
I have like 20 aketon
spark sinew
you didn't play for 3 years
astral cosmos
oh and i have 0 sugar
timid nacelle
well also we have gs on 2 upcomin events
timid nacelle
if those 2 r abundant no other choice ig
spark sinew
i have >200 on all 3
but sugar looks questionable to farm ngl
timid nacelle
but farming that shit stage is beyond me
t3 sugar is used for a bunch of t4 mats is it not
astral cosmos
im not gonna have enough time to farm sugar
so i'll just dump everything into grindstone and stay poor in the other two 
spark sinew
everything that can be crafted from t1 kinda loses actual value if you only look at "spreadsheet calcs"
because 1-7
keton also is in frindshop but eh
timid nacelle
I am lookin at upcomin events and sanity efficiency
spark sinew
link it
timid nacelle
tho the other gs are better by like decimals
timid nacelle
link it
just penguin stats
r the other 2 Mats on eblana event that important anyway
spark sinew
which ones were those
technically every mat is important, despite what some people would tell you about salt for example
even this shit
dapper hedge
Salt alr out like 2 years now i think?
dapper hedge
Theyre definitely way more important now
dapper hedge
solvent and fiber
Those are gonna be needed alot post ch15
spark sinew
lower tier is this?
glass monolith
sugar is sugar, and aketon is probably like this for most people anyway
Literally me
spark sinew
i'm still in the negatives
timid nacelle
maybe the angle is to do gs on exu event then
astral cosmos
@crisp bolt 494 (574-80 from max trust)
spark sinew
ok maybe i will not farm grindstone
astral cosmos
ah god fucking damn it there's still ethan rng 
i'll redo a more stable auto...
sick flare
my auto deploy failed too, but I'm not surprised since my "strat" was deploying Defenders until the boss died
spark sinew
someone probably 2 op afk clear this shit
spark sinew
timid nacelle
this seems rediculous
spark sinew
the worst part are the shitty flyers
amazing
spark sinew
lowstep is 3
glass monolith
2 op ?
Throw Texas at it until it dies while Ela having shot all targets minigame at blue box
spark sinew
obviously it's probably 9 cheerleaders
spark sinew
Throw Texas at it until it dies while Ela having shot all targets minigame at bl...
wont work
i actually disabled ping but then clicked it again just for you
final pasture
Whatās required to pull the boss into the pit?
timid nacelle
ye otherwise not enough damage
final pasture
I tried with Ange S3 and Gla S1M3 but not working at all
timid nacelle
guess not 4 sui
spark sinew
oh boy
timid nacelle
that's probably reserved for the ex stages
spark sinew
wont work
i actually disabled ping but then clicked it again just for you
actually should work nvm
astral cosmos
wow flint works
spark sinew
i was looking at trimmed medal clears
timid nacelle
nymph2
spark sinew
cause for regular clear even this works
timid nacelle
bros r crazy
crisp bolt
mb wrong chat
slow ferry
whoever made ep-8 gotta go to hell
trail geyser
Is there a low end guide for ep8 that actually uses a support? Everything i see so far is like trying to actually do a pure low end and its kinda annoying cause its way too precise
slow ferry
kyostin has one that is just wis'adel iirc
the solution to everything is just use wis'adel
or if he doesnt im p sure theyre all just gonna be 12 ground units + wis'adel
trail geyser
kyostin has one that is just wis'adel iirc
kyo was one of the guys who did a pure low end
š
i couldnt get his exact conditions even though im already using higher ops
slow ferry
i did it and it's too rng
i think my click is too high level and my trust is too low
it's instable even with very close conditions
trail geyser
just finished it with wisadel
way easier if you dont do a 4 star limit challenge š
slow ferry
i wanted to do it without 6* mainly bc i was trying to get it farmable
cant auto repeat the stage with a borrow
ill be collecting piss instead
pearl breach
i wanted to do it without 6* mainly bc i was trying to get it farmable
Doing it without 6ā is pain. Mainly because you want to dps the boss from the range
slow ferry
yea
i wonder if it'd go better if i replaced click with kroos, but i think the cannons have high def and lower res
pearl breach
Hi yume
You could try this strat
Turret first then dps the boss later with body block
pearl breach
What do you have lads?
slow ferry
pearl breach
Is that everything lads?
Where is the build ops?
pearl breach
Hmmm.. lemme try smth
slow ferry
the rest of the 3*s are raised + the 2 star and 1 star robot buddies are max level
except plume ansel and fang
tawny rain
2 weeks new player, any chance someone's got a winning run with low level units and a borrowed wisadel for the event boss? I'm struggling really hard here
guy just spins and deletes my maxed out beagle or e1 55 cuora, even with rose salt skill active
tawny rain
that or lower yeah
tawny rain
my highest leveled unit is e2 level 20 ptilo and I only got her there with a voucher
brisk surge
oof thats a bit of a fumble
tawny rain
is there a simple way to send my roster or do I just gotta screenshot each page
tawny rain
tawny rain
yeah that makes sense, rip
a borrowed wisadel just doesn't do enough damage to get through phase 2 before he slaughters my defenders
slow ferry
oof
slow ferry
i'd definitely level beagle and cardigan if you can?
tawny rain
Beagle's maxed lol
slow ferry
thats good
tawny rain
I might have mats?
slow ferry
do you have gravel
tawny rain
no gravel sadly
slow ferry
dang
brisk surge
i might be able to make something happen
tawny rain
I looked at kyo and someone else's low tier runs and sighed when I realized htey were dependent on her
slow ferry
she's not hard to get but yeah it can be really rough without her
full terrace
2 weeks new player, any chance someone's got a winning run with low level units ...
Here use this for reference #strategy message
tawny rain
haven't gotten recruitment tags to guarantee her
tawny rain
yeah im using the calculator
but I just reroll the instant I see any 3 stars
I should prob check to see if there's any good units first right?
tawny rain
Here use this for reference https://discord.com/channels/586503387072167937/6694...
thanks ill watch that and see if I can replicate
slow ferry
you might be able to get by using wisadel borrow and spamming defenders
spot, cardigan, beagle and cuora
melantha may also be able to tank a couple hits, she has a ridiculous health stat
pearl breach
this is after shirayuki
uhh.. kinda possible with proper timing but your farming stage will have like 15 mins each 
slow ferry
uhh.. kinda possible with proper timing but your farming stage will have like 15...
look, i was ready for each run to take 15 minutes
dark mantle
i might be able to make something happen
wtf maxxer pro guide maker
slow ferry
the issue is getting a working run that has less rng sadly
brisk surge
wtf maxxer pro guide maker
i do help out when im in a decent mood
slow ferry
im definitely down to try a different strategy though
pearl breach
i still do the same strat. turret first then stall on top with saria and cuora while reposition the whole squad
using blaze instead surtr
elder flume
Wait whatās the rng here i cant see
Spin timing
Anastasio can choose when to spin upon reaching phase 2 whenever he wants
Auto wont save his timing
tawny rain
Here use this for reference https://discord.com/channels/586503387072167937/6694...
im kind of able to replicate it? with a shit ton of unleveled vanguards and defenders? my primary issue is that the wisadel I'm borrowing just doesn't do enough damage
tawny rain
which is weird, she's level 75 so the difference shouldn't be that much, but he reaches the top part of the stage 2 squares away from the exit with 2/3rd left
lofty stag
Wow max helping instead of rage baiting š„¹
tawny rain
Maxxieel#1663
added, thanks a ton!
lofty stag
wtf whel
full terrace
im kind of able to replicate it? with a shit ton of unleveled vanguards and defe...
Yes you can, Gravel and Deepcolor can be replaced with bunch of bodies
brisk surge
especially when their roster is turbo unbuilt
full terrace
Just time them properly
Click is whatever Casters you can use to assassinate the Cannons
tawny rain
ye ye, I uh....don't have any casters that can do that but they're trying lol
I tried using amiya but she doesn't do it either, I'm throwing down ethan to try and help deal with both at the same time
elder flume
Is it rough for new players when E1 1 3stars clears
lofty stag
But ur Chinese
brisk surge
elder flume
As long as the vid exists it can be followed
brisk surge
the reason why people dont follow those clears is because the timing is horrible to follow
i mean there are a lot of resources out there for clears
and yet people are still asking for help which means that the guides are unintuitive
or skill issue ig
š¬
tawny rain
it is very much a skill issue on my part
lofty stag
I mean in other events Iād just say skill issue
But I can def see people having trouble normally
elder flume
Abuse Gravel and Jaye with a healer on them
brisk surge
the dude does not have gravel
spark sinew
spam recruits
brisk surge
3 star clears are fine but when they are this new they dont have the pots on 3 stars
and those dp do add up
which makes low end clear guides kinda suck\
because its not true low end
elder flume
If only theres a delevel function
tawny rain
oof, closer than before
i think i can manage it, just gotta place better and bait the cannons properly
the better wisadel is definitely helping
tawny rain
i dont have the dps to kill the cannon lol
limpid ore
boss at phase 2 will redirect the cannon to operator that block him btw
tawny rain
this is my squad
yep, i realized that was why the op placement at the bottom was so important
brisk surge
you can stall out the boss for phase 1 and use something like midnight to kill the cannon
but that shit is gonna take very long
š¬
slow ferry
i will save this ty
placid cape
Is this good enough for DH-5 squad?
pearl breach
bring more stuff with you
slow ferry
do you have myrtle yet
placid cape
Oh dam I need more guard
spark sinew
you will clear it no issue
pearl breach
the dockworker kills you, right? 
slow ferry
which stage is dh-5
pearl breach
dossoless holiday
slow ferry
i forgot which the 5th map was
placid cape
I hate the freaking Shield guy
brisk surge
he woned
sterile swan
I would really recommend E1ing Blaze and Saria before you mald on the stage much longer, especially Blaze
Oh you did it anyways
Congrats
tawny rain
Oh I managed it by just throwing a million fodder plus Waltuh at it but thanks!
I think my next upgrade is actually lappland
To do lungmen downtown annihilation
cedar lantern
why is this event's boss lowkey bullshit
its like they balanced it based on having wisadel
narrow pendant
I think hes pretty tame, his high dmg skill u can bait and then nuke him
somber falcon
Any half-decent damage dealer just tear through him 
foggy grove
worldly stirrup
why is this event's boss lowkey bullshit
Im not even using wis to clear the stage 
I used shu tho.
rugged lava
is Isidro stronger than Thorn?
scarlet mortar
is thorns stronger than thorns
scarlet mortar
idk i'm betting on thorns
smoky halo
its like they balanced it based on having wisadel
3 star only beats ep-8
im pretty sure they arent wisadel level
š¬
scarlet mortar
between 3*s and 114 yh this boss ain't shit
he defies passive setups ig, means you have to look at more of the map
but it's not a wis check
haughty flower
why is this event's boss lowkey bullshit
3 op'able by 4* units only as well.
Unrot your brain, start reading, and rub some braincells
slow ferry
https://youtu.be/7MoBBhiKV6M
IT WORKED!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH
now to try it out on auto deploy
it randomly stopped working
rng in this game is the devil
still vessel
This boss sucks ass
Because of rng
How tf am I supposed to auto this shit
Iām just gonna wait for next grindstone event
lofty stag
ā¦shu 
still vessel
š„
timid nacelle
How tf am I supposed to auto this shit
u don't
still vessel
Why do you think Iām sparking bruh
timid nacelle
do ep7 instead
still vessel
Nah ep6 im low on sugar
slow ferry
it does just seem really hard
timid nacelle
Why do you think Iām sparking bruh
still a bad idea
still vessel
Not to worry Iām loaded
slow ferry
the boss itself doesnt really seem super rng heavy but my ops are
timid nacelle
exu2 in 5 months ig
still vessel
Double spark cuz
elder flume
Weedy Ange is too consistent
still vessel
I donāt have weedy
elder flume
Tho technically as long as you have a good defender on 5,7 the rng kina cancels out
It does mean tanking cannon and corrosion
pearl breach
IT WORKED!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH
Soo.. where is the part when the auto fails? Is it when the boss using his skills?
pure orchid
a bit of an interesting yet useless tidbit
in sss, you can stack right where ulpi s3 landed, and it will stay there
meaning you can essentially transfer where the stack is
without losing the stacks
pure orchid
a 5 medic guard
how broken
But yeah they do work the same i guess
repositioning and all
wait
scarlet mortar
a 5 medic guard
we have gladiia talent at home
pure orchid
okay i get what youre saying now
5 sniper > mon3tr > transfer to ground > boom 5 sniper guard
okay thats brilliant lmao
slow ferry
Soo.. where is the part when the auto fails? Is it when the boss using his skill...
im not entirely sure, i think it's the flash happening too early?
bc he was ahead of unit deployment
so i think kroos did damage too quickly
too many talent procs
pearl breach
Hmm.. maybe try to swap krooster with click.
full terrace
EP-8 Farm for Newbie (6 Minutes)
dull tundra
How do I clear EP-8 with this specific, exact team in particular?
narrow pendant
Why exact specific
U have like noone to tank with
But ig u can use nymph to fear him into the sand
pure orchid
nymph fear is the one thing i see here
spark sinew
so many levels and yet still nothing good
can you swap some e2 and better units for like ling
surely you have e0 1 units to trust farm instead
actually you can probably stall
terse nova
How to clear event
elder flume
after boss leaves
Tecno starts on bottom tile until cannon dies before redeploying top
Contrail to take care of 3 flying if Aroma + Nymph cant handle them
Aroma Contrail out after no more flyers and barrels
Pepe Highmore out after no more enemies spawning
Marcille after Tecno kills top cannon
when boss respawns Nymph fear him to salt then block with Highmore and Pepe until he dies
hopefully Contrail and Cement comes back in time too if necessary
mod that Aroma if you need to
elder flume
its E2 1
spark sinew
lvl 1 yes
elder flume
if they need it then so be it
dull tundra
now 69
dull tundra
after boss leaves
Tecno starts on bottom tile until cannon dies before redeploy...
I'll try it thanks
spark sinew
69 is the absolute worst level to leave your ops in
elder flume
not my mats not my clear yet the squad they want is that and i shall provide when i can
spark sinew
at least do 60 or 70
dull tundra
naw
spark sinew
how fitting
dull tundra
eckogen does it so I will do it too
pearl breach
Lvl 60 shu can't survive the londinium cannon.
Lvl 69 can. 
elder flume
if Contrail isnt needed to tank boss then go S1
glass monolith
69 is the absolute worst level to leave your ops in
Looks fine to me
elder flume
if needed then S2
elder flume
you need 3ty k so
dull tundra
what
elder flume
cannon is 3ty k hp
elder flume
some of my buttons do not work so here i am
elder flume
Ling rangers 2 op
dull tundra
havent used ling in a long time, I'll see if I can make a trust farm out of her 
elder flume
Wis Shu also
dull tundra
I love that combo, never cared about abyssal hunters until I got those 2
elder flume
quite a lot of 2op
timid nacelle
I must have left it at 2 for a reason but too late now <:crykekcry:1181086927324...
mod3 doesn't do jack iirc
dull tundra
timid nacelle
sad
pearl breach
Hi gramps
dull tundra
it says stronger summons
timid nacelle
wasn't stronger summon on mod2 already
pearl breach
idk. I just want to mod her for niche runs
timid nacelle
the free deploy slot summon one was the recommended iirc
but pretty sure any mag player will hit u with "she needs both"
scarlet mortar
the one that gives her invis when next to her drones
it's the one used in CCB#3 max if you're only raising one
scarlet mortar
should be better for her too since her main edge over ling is using that invis to avoid mapwides in solos
timid nacelle
hello great-grandpa
don't do that hauck
pearl breach
timid nacelle
also hi
scarlet mortar
X should be the one that gives her invis
she avoids getting targeted by mega range sudarams with it
also dodges the chimeras' auras
void terrace
Thornsalter does a surprising ammount of damage with s2
But his self sustain is so bad
Im tempted to use him with skadance to provide some long distace ara coverage
But it does eay a lot of squad space
Maybe in a ling squad to mega heal her dragons
sly drift
But his self sustain is so bad
Self sustain on Alchemist archetype? 
Dude r you gonna deploy him near red box or something
glass monolith
Cycle of AK: Blue box camp -> Somewhere in middle camp -> Red box camp -> F content is hard, blue box camp
glass monolith
Define strong it is Terra where even civilians survive like 10m drops without protective gear
full terrace
Define strong? Camp red box ~> they kill š
Honestly it's all about tempo, if your squad strength is high, and there are some safe tiles near red box, then camp red box, otherwise just position them somewhere near blue box for tempo, there are always safe tiles near blue boxes.
elder flume
Owao he actually got through Saria
Interesting
elder flume
phase 1 non
elder flume
wanted to see how long Tecno will kill a cannon
full terrace
Stacked Corrosion, he gets through most things. When Def is 0, thats where it hurts
He gets through Shu too
Unless it's Ulpi coz def doesnt matter
narrow pendant
Tho thatd need a lot of corro procs
scarlet mortar
he doesn't need too many, shu doesn't have much def
azure roost
just abuse shu
elder flume
Hmm
glass monolith
Unless it's Ulpi coz def doesnt matter
Or one Minus who keep showing Quartz Quercus combo into each Physical Blockable Boss ever #strategy message
azure roost
thats my tips for boss on that stahe
maiden hound
scarlet mortar
her having DR is kinda worse in this specific case than saria having def, if purely in terms of cancelling the damage
astral cosmos
figuring out a stable auto for ep8 is so annoying 
thank god i finally figured one out after so many tries
can't believe i had to use chalter after so many years
elder flume
no Weedy?
astral cosmos
e1 sl6
elder flume
smh
astral cosmos
e0 shu 
full terrace
Coz you play badknights thats why š
full terrace
Operators not strong enough
azure roost
figuring out a stable auto for ep8 is so annoying <:AmiyaDonk:650829701035851831...
as usual boss with other skill is annoying to auto
and ur ops too
full terrace
@regal frost you still alive?
pure orchid
tf is this gramophone sss boss
are they really forcing me to use sniper stacks?
this is actually fkn lame
glass monolith
Mudrock stop this gramophone
full terrace
Not really, there are 2 strats for that
First one is spawn the boss quick for a low Danger Level, and then assign a few dps units on the Gramaphone, the stacked dps will drain the Gramaphone HP quickly, dealing constant damage on the boss
This is a race against time tho
And you need a bit of good RNG
pure orchid
i want a chill run where i can spam skills and sleep
full terrace
Second one is to setup an Ulpi stall, with Gladiia and a Medic, then slowly build Equipment stacks up for your dps units
glass monolith
SSS is worst place to sleep
full terrace
You can stall the boss til Danger Level 20 no problem, I tested it
pure orchid
ulpi... zzz
full terrace
Tho, Danger Lv20 feels like high risk cc
pure orchid
my mudrock with 3vg stack died
glass monolith
DH-9 being done in 45.2 seconds by everyone:
Me who just started AK spending 30 minutes on it:
dark mantle
are they really forcing me to use sniper stacks?
yep 5 sniper stack wis s1 kill boss piss easy
somber falcon
are they really forcing me to use sniper stacks?
The exclusive device is literally sniper buff, wdy expect 
next wigeon
are they really forcing me to use sniper stacks?
Sniper Stack is good wym
pure orchid
you know i really know what to do here
but i just absolutely hate when games take away your liberty
no i dont want to use the stage exclusive device or do your sniper stacks game or attack that thing on the right
this is giving me hsr flashbacks
sly drift
are they really forcing me to use sniper stacks?
Haven't try it yet. What is it about?
pure orchid
device on right deals true dmg to boss based on no of atks received
so obviously stacking sniper is great
sly drift
Ah.. hit count based boss fight?
pure orchid
kind of?
brisk surge
Hey qyurii
pure orchid
you can brute force as usual but the boss is annoyingly tanky
brisk surge
You piss on the boss
full terrace
Just setup Ulpi stall bruh, that fight can last til tomorrow if you want
pure orchid
and you need to have a good staller too
full terrace
There is no need to touch the device
pure orchid
yeah theoretically i can but
sly drift
Why don't ppl pick very fast attack speed or dot like thorn? Idk
full terrace
There your liberty
full terrace
No cure for this noob bozo
brisk surge
Literally quilon fight
next wigeon
With some aspd equipment
Arf btw what skill you used for Ulpi Stall? S2 or S3?
pure orchid
activate skill if rng fucks u
full terrace
S2 or S3 up to you, its just flavor
next wigeon
I see
next wigeon
I plan to do the SSS towers later to get it over with
somber falcon
5sp/3s can make CE perma stall? 
brisk surge
Shileds pissed on the boss with krooster without stalling or blocking or hitting pedestal
full terrace
CE needs a bit of micro management but I see the vision
Using some SP equipment
And throwing bodies during downtime
brisk surge
Play summoner
full terrace
Normal one is easy, Emergency one is where the fun at
pure orchid
yeah i just forced my unstacked snipers on the device on the right
full terrace
So much for liberty
pure orchid
i was setting up a mud stall but kept failing
glass monolith
I joked when i said Mudrock stall that boss.
pure orchid
i mean i think she can
somber falcon
Try a rock wall
Or conkreet 
pure orchid
as long as its just 1v1
full terrace
That boss is basically a Steam Knight
pure orchid
but theres a bunch of trash lying around
full terrace
One punch drained Ulpi's HP by Ā¾
somber falcon
Put her on right side then
pure orchid
and open my left?
somber falcon
Put someone else 
glass monolith
That boss is basically a Steam Knight
(Packs Quartz, Quercus, Stainless and 5 medic DR stack)
smoky halo
wher vina
pure orchid
i dont like melee