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timid nacelle
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uh

brisk surge
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the guy asking isnt a 5 star

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player

timid nacelle
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honestly I am against u on bassline

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the 4* equivalent is shit

brisk surge
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THE NEW PLAYER DOESNT NEED A 5 STAR DEFENDER

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HOW ARE WE NOT GETTING THIS

timid nacelle
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I get u

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it's not as bad as u make it out to be is all

wicked minnow
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yeah that's what im saying too

timid nacelle
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Chinese name guy told him good recs too

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chill

brisk surge
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the whole point is to tell him to build DPS first and the fucko is recommending high cost vanguard and blockers

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thats the issue

still vessel
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out of all the classes why invest in defender.

timid nacelle
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u need 1 or 2

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it's fine

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shu is limited

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saria is kernel jailed right ?

brisk surge
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you can run 4 star equivalant of the 1 or 2

timid nacelle
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bassline+ cuora/bubble is good

still vessel
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I assumed they already had spot/curoa/cardigan builtReedBean

timid nacelle
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but gummy can suck it

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no they r new

still vessel
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oh

timid nacelle
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but we r building spot for base anyway

wicked minnow
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yeah fresh account

timid nacelle
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so things can wait

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plus when the guy recommended units

brisk surge
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this is why we are getting flak on help chat all the time

wicked minnow
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bro has better prios

timid nacelle
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the guy didn't actually send his account yet

brisk surge
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because when actual people ask we close our eyes

timid nacelle
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so he didn't know

brisk surge
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and we yap during downtime instead

timid nacelle
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had he seen the acc from the start he wouldn't recommend it

molten steeple
timid nacelle
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plus he wasn't recommendin mitm to the new guy

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someone else was askin about it

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and yes mitm is good for a 5* vg

brisk surge
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for a 5 star

wicked minnow
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huh so i wasnt tweaking

brisk surge
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you literally said it

still vessel
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he got santalla, I want santalla 🫠

wicked minnow
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no undulation slop for you good sir

still vessel
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😭

timid nacelle
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ye but we can't shit on the unit just because 5*, can we

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otherwise la pluma dead

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plus he said he's only good as a 5* vg
he didn't say build Him on every acc

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like u r overreacting

brisk surge
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yeah maybe i really cant talk to you

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arf was correct

timid nacelle
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do what u want

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for 5* vanguards he's the best dps pretty much and has 2-3 block too. Doesn't need a healer either, so extremely underrated
do u see anything wrong with this @wicked minnow

wicked minnow
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not really no

timid nacelle
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I looked at the thing multiple times he didn't say anything that I can brand "shit advice"

wicked minnow
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mitm is a relatively decent 5* unit and the statement the 5* guy made wasnt like crazy

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he could've maybe prefaced it better but that's like it

timid nacelle
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the problem is u can't overload newbies with all the info on first ask

glass monolith
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Still less information than single YuGiOh effect text

timid nacelle
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some people come with like a question and u have to guess if they r just askin to get a simple answer or a new player who doesn't know shit

glass monolith
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We have squad of old keyboard masochists who will happily write esse on any mechanic

timid nacelle
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that guy sent 2 images askin about ops when he could just send the names tho
that should have given it away RedOmegaLul

timid nacelle
south spindle
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And then on the other hand some newbies are also turbo nerds and ask and will listen to the entire paragraph and have it saved

still vessel
lethal star
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Weird question but what’s the website where people post records and stuff with niche clears

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It’s kinda hard to find clears for stages on yt

lethal star
timid nacelle
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arkrec iirc

lethal star
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For a 5 star anyway, I used him to bait the beer trucks and lappland global skill for the last event

timid nacelle
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it has an en version

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and a cn one

lethal star
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Neat I’ll look into it

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Hopefully it has a lot of 5 star clears I can look at

timid nacelle
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I recall wtfartin on lowstep records that always r either tied or less than mine by 1

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cuz of horn

full terrace
cyan gorge
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I can’t even get to Quilon ReedBean
4 runs in a row i just can’t kill the f5 boss with karma buff

full terrace
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You mean Petal buff

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Thats the beauty of Quilon run 🤣

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Karma buff is just raising boss HP no? Shouldnt be an issue with the broken relics

cyan gorge
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I had a cracked run with multiple hands + kings set and still lost and I don’t think I played bad

full terrace
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Some of your ops got eaten by the boats?

cyan gorge
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Is that why I cannot use them anymore?

full terrace
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Yes 😂

cyan gorge
full terrace
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You need to avoid the boats

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When you see them coming, retreat and let them pass

cyan gorge
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I don’t know boat pathing and they just don’t die fast enough

full terrace
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Or if your run is super crack, shoot them down

full terrace
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Lemme draw on the map brb

cyan gorge
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I was just lost and confused

full terrace
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  • The red arrow is the first pre-spawned boat
  • The blue arrows are the second boat waves, so dont deploy on those upper half tiles until they pass
  • The green arrows are the third boat waves, they spawn really late
    The purple squared area are safe to deploy. White line is Fremont's pathing so you can for example, deploy your Medic on yellow circled tile, and then someone to block on green circled tile to stall him
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Do not enter the fight on Fractured Mind otherwise you'll do 3 Phases

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Also dont deploy all your operators (dps units especially) right away coz Fremont shuffle their position when transitioning from Phase 1 ~> Phase 2

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After you kill Fremont Phase 1, retreat everyone but leave someone on the field to destroy everyone's coffins
Once he enters Phase 2, deploy your second set of team

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All the pre-spawned enemies on the yellow areas will walk to your blue box following that green line, thats their pathing, so you can for example, deploy someone like Thorns or Asca on that purple circled tile facing up, or your Wisadel on red circled tile facing up

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Be very careful tho, Fremont hits hard esp on d15

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He kills her Rev Shadows like slicing a cake

cyan gorge
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What’s usually the favored squad for IS5? I usually gamble with mimic ReedBean

full terrace
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Blueprint is the go-to and considered the most stable

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The idea is to

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Take Lamp and Shrivels Encounter on F1

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They are kinda a must*

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And then use the Lamp to refresh every Encounter node you are passing through

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The refresh is free coz Blueprint

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First relic you'll get will always be Hand of Rumble if you start with Wisadel

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Second-third-fourth-fifth relics you'll get will always be the Kings set if your HP is 1 and you dont handmix

cyan gorge
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Oh that’s how it works

full terrace
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So the idea is to make good use of the useless Encounter nodes you see and grab the Kings set first

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Then you can recruit Logos/Nymph (Hand of Mystery), Ascalon (Hand of Protraction, Book of Protraction), Lappcaster/Goldenglow (Hand of Undulation, Book of Undulation)

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Just make sure you dont handmix and grab the Kings set first

cyan gorge
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So avoid the 6*s that use hand buffs?

full terrace
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Yes

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If you draft a 6 Star that has Hand, the Hand will be prioritized

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And you cant get the Kings set

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This is called handmixing

cyan gorge
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Then give me a few op ideas to draft so I don’t forget something

full terrace
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Yeh triple Flingers is usually the go-to

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They stick to Rumble only

cyan gorge
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I meant non snipers

full terrace
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Also try to grab the Shrivels Encounter at F1 btw

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They multiply from 2 ~> 4 ~> 8 ~> 16 ~> 32 ~> 64

cyan gorge
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So double encounter node on f1?

full terrace
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2 of them = worth a relic

cyan gorge
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Idk what shrivels is

full terrace
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Shrivels and Sprout

cyan gorge
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Oh that

full terrace
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Yeah that, its a fairly common Encounter at F1

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Easy to get

cyan gorge
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So basically just go for two encounter nodes on f1

full terrace
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Lamp/Talon/Doodle Encounter is like almost guaranteed

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Yes thats the priority

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And upgrade Wisadel if you start with her

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F2 is where the run begins

cyan gorge
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Depends on shop luck, which is usually terrible ReedBean

full terrace
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They can be yeah, but try to upgrade Wis before you enter F3 if possible, the pressure is gaining around there

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Esp high diff

cyan gorge
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I’m still stuck at 13

full terrace
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13 is pretty high already, nice one 👍

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Dw about it, most players dont even reach d10 😂

cyan gorge
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Does hand mixing happen if I have a 4* like Click?

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I don’t have hope for Amiya

dapper hedge
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No only *6 counts for lamp

full terrace
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4 Stars dont count, for details there is a pinned message by Euthy in #is-station explaining the relics priority given by lamp

cyan gorge
full terrace
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Your Quilon run is set

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Time to leak him

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🤣🤣🤣

steel prairie
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wait how do I get Gladiia to toss those runner into the hole ?

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does she have to directly point at it ?

smoky blaze
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You use a pusher instead of a puller lads

elder flume
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If youre using Gladiia then she wants M1 face right to deal with wraiths

steel prairie
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then I dont have any (I have Shaw but she is 100% gonna die to those gernadiers)

elder flume
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SL8

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Cant Lin tank

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You have E2 now

steel prairie
# elder flume You have E2 now

at first she can... but eventually they get stronger and stronger and near around 380 enemies killed they can go thro Lins shield

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its around the 350 kill mark

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also at once point they started ignoring her and went straight for Chen

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was also thinking of swapping Chen and Skadi location due to Skadi high HP

elder flume
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Then your deploy order is wrong

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Lin must be deployed last

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Its fine if she dies at 350

steel prairie
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she is always last

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uh hold on

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let me show you

elder flume
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Only way for her to be ignored is if S2 or Chen wrong placement then ReedBean

steel prairie
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ok when the gernadiers stops where the circle marked is... they start ignoring Lin and going for Chen

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the upper area

elder flume
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Where is Lin

steel prairie
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I always place Lin inbetween the electriciy generators (or whatever they are called) (circle area)

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bruh for anni survivng is super ez... its just getting that perfect 400 is super difficult (I hate those runners)

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ngl Gladiia did guard that upper left flank better than both Zuo or Lappa did

elder flume
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Why not

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Thats her optimal place

steel prairie
# elder flume Why not

cause thats out of range for my medics... I typically place my Ops within my medics range... my medics usually determine where I can place most of the time

elder flume
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Shes not supposed to be healed.

steel prairie
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wait really ??? I know she is tough but her shield isnt 100% blast proof

elder flume
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It blocks anything under 200 damage

steel prairie
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hmmm

elder flume
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If shes hurt then your Lin isnt raised right yet

steel prairie
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also I just alt f4 it caused it leaked again... but also around 200 kill mark some sniper can deal tiny dmg on her (wut ?)

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hold on

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this is my Lin but she suppose to survive thro the 380 kill mark ???

elder flume
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Default to S3

steel prairie
elder flume
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What skill was your Lin using

steel prairie
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cause its good for both offense and defense most of the time

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good AOE

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ok I did fail to read that S3 does strengthen her shield

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also is there any mention that these gernadiers can see thro camo ???

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or only wiki states that they can see thro camo ?

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cause Wis was surrounded by all 3 spikes yet they somehow know she is there

elder flume
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Wis is camo but Shadows are not

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They target Shadows

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The splash hits Wis

steel prairie
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oh

elder flume
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Also you can just never activate Lin skill

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Lets her tank better

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ModX is an option ig

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Its why S1 is bad

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She loses her def res

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Shiftknights did this anni with Lin tanking everything but idk if 30 extra levels + maybe mod really changes her

steel prairie
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sooo is this more ideal ?

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did I place Gladiia correctly ???

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also why is Mue NOW cloning multiple clones ??? (she cloned Wis)

elder flume
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Good enough

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Summon talent

steel prairie
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so the clones "includes" summons as well ?

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always thought its some S3 shennanigans

elder flume
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Every summon has their own trait

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Mumu in particular is broken

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Its why i said its a possible 5 block + 5 ops worth of dps

steel prairie
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oh

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oh wait Gladiia nearly died to the electricity thing

maiden hound
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place her somewhere else

elder flume
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Grenadier will target Shadows and hit Wis unless the healers are placed last but can they survive hmm

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Gladiia blocks a portion of spider explosion but Wis alr kills all

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Actually Mumu cloning up there could be bad

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New clone will be last deployed

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Grenadier hits clone n Shaw

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Mumu face down better fr

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What if Gladiia job is 1v1ing snipers RedOmegaLul

steel prairie
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but I still have so many questions

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oh LOL the vid file is too big

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but TY so much @elder flume ... but as you can see in the video... why did Lin started taking lots of dmg from the gernadiers in the end ??? no longer can sustain it ?

elder flume
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You can just post it to Streamables or Youtube

steel prairie
elder flume
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Im outside so i cant open it tho

elder flume
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Someone prob will

steel prairie
elder flume
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Nah i just dont wana use all my Data

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Oya you have Skadi to 1v1 better RedOmegaLul

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But Gladiia regen

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You can get Lin mod1 eventually

steel prairie
elder flume
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Allows her to still have her def res when skill active

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Which should be better in some scenarios with S3

steel prairie
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hmm

steel prairie
elder flume
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I'll watch it eventually

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Tho yeah whatever happens Lin job is to tank first n foremost

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Damage comes after

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So shes just a trophy wife i can put to bait in a secluded place

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If she dies after a long time then shes prob done her job well enough

steel prairie
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ok

pearl breach
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Hmm its weird. Lee is killing the blade too fast.
Did I do smth wrong rain?

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Nvm. I found the answer ady

foggy grove
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classic lee

elder flume
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I have my Lee E2 64 which is nearing able to kill BK

pearl breach
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I wish we had ops that heal enemies HellaKek

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It will be much easier to do some stupid stuff.

crisp bolt
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I'm slowly getting there RosChill

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my game is struggling

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I'm trying mostima instead of ulpi

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basically my strategy was to blockshift diksa to as close to the blue box as I can because sometimes the feathers top lane will get to him and heal him

scarlet mortar
crisp bolt
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oh you already tried mosti FiaDed

scarlet mortar
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it's a bit annoying but you do end up with an infinite loop

crisp bolt
scarlet mortar
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not like lee kills them

crisp bolt
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he does actually DocSmile

scarlet mortar
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E2L1 lee go

elder flume
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E2 64 was close

crisp bolt
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have to go at 1x or my game lags hard SwireKek

elder flume
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There is a blood blade limit

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It wont spawn after enough blood blades are on screen

crisp bolt
elder flume
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Or ig our device can break before that limit

crisp bolt
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there is indeed hit cap DocSmile

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look at all those feathers not pushed back

pearl breach
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Ahh yes.. my favorite 1 frame per 5 seconds moment. Splendid montage MosTeama

south spindle
elder flume
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Its only problematic when youre cycling 5 ops skill during that

cinder cliff
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guys what u guys think about this combo ray or typhon with totter vs al those invisible guys on this lane

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now that i just complete that stage and almost leak some of those invisible guys that hit hard like a rock

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no worst they hit like they have a freaking chancla as weapon

rapid junco
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If horn is m3 they not even a problem

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Just add some other ppl to Handel lane wroten as ray ya

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I just don't understand what blaze doing theresus

brisk surge
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just sash face up to reveal

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🥱

cinder cliff
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im about to have ptsd right now when im enter to this stage vs 400 moly x.x

rapid junco
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This sheet easy with logos + typhon. You just need invis reveal for 🛹🐏

civic bear
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camp left side

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near that fountain on the left

cinder cliff
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so i keep skill 1 on logos and skill 2 on typhone?

rapid junco
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Well ye

cinder cliff
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alright time to hunt some flying sheep for the next pizza menu

maiden hound
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mods ban this guy for flexing
also eyja s1

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saria s1

cinder cliff
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wait is sari s1?

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god damt

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welp im reset

somber falcon
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0 cost anyways

steel prairie
somber falcon
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you don't use buffer skill randomly PodencoSip

cinder cliff
steel prairie
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oh

elder flume
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Atleast they have 4.5 artss ussr

maiden hound
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new hotel avenue

steel prairie
cinder cliff
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.>

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i need more lmd xd

south spindle
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Siestas the screen shot they posted other in the beachish area

cinder cliff
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o srry i throw u was talking of the hotel mf

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i didnt check correctly xd

steel prairie
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is there any other easy anni places besides Lungmen and Cherno ?

next wigeon
next wigeon
steel prairie
next wigeon
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Just borrow a Chongyue

steel prairie
south spindle
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Watery Tidehollow is wisadelable with good skill cycling (deactivating at good times)
Did it on a level 30 account with just Wisadel

full terrace
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I havent been using Wis for a few anni now

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There is no real threat on the most recent ones

cinder cliff
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ray mvp :v

somber falcon
full terrace
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She is my ticket to safely first attempt those anni, I feel safe just by having her undeployed 😏

cinder cliff
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welp im out of sanity now x.x

elder flume
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10s skill is basically frd CeobeConfused

full terrace
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But yeah you are right, nothing really "needs" her in general content

somber falcon
cinder cliff
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is 11pm mate xd

south spindle
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discord user sleeps challenge

somber falcon
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your nearby grass despawns at night or smth?

cinder cliff
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nope

somber falcon
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unoptimized grass smh

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🚮

cinder cliff
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maybe a carper >.>?

south spindle
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grass is derendered when out of view to save frames

somber falcon
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time to upgrade the rig

cinder cliff
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but first i need lmd so i can finally upgadre purestream

steel prairie
next wigeon
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The devourers was killable at range

next wigeon
# steel prairie ok nvm it is pretty ez... tho those Sarkaz look disgusting af

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full terrace
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LeoTse is such a good content creator

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His solutions are always unique

south spindle
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woah chongyue is fire

full terrace
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You know what I did for County Hillock Countryside

next wigeon
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He helped me a ton

scarlet fulcrum
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Can be replaced with better carry nowadays, since cliffheart not forced anymore and texas bad for ur base

fallow owl
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who does the witch king target for displacement?

scarlet fulcrum
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Last 2 deployed ops, respecting taunt

desert prairie
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Bring mlynar and make him main bait
Second one can be gravel

scarlet fulcrum
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Just logos it so u only need bait once

full terrace
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Doubt they got the resources (Mlynar)

elder flume
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E2 80 Savage

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Surely enough

fallow owl
fallow owl
calm berry
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Any tips for is4 ending 3 and 4?

south spindle
full terrace
calm berry
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10+

full terrace
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Ending 3 you need someone that has compressed dps, so someone like Guardmiya/Chen/Irene/Degen. You need this because Cresson is invulnerable 24/7 and can only be attacked when you activate the device, which will make it vulnerable for a short period of time; Gardener: 10 secs, Sentinel/Alter Ending 3: 5 secs. Then you need Nightingale coz the boss does a heavy Arts damage that, most of the time, 1 tap your operator (high diff). If you use Degen as your compressed burst, then you need bard for Inspiration coz her skill is attack scale, meaning it also multiplies the Inspiration buff.

scarlet fulcrum
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Killing khagan as second usually more preferred, tho making him dying first even better (ed4)

full terrace
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If you wanna prep for Sentinel, then you also want Shu for 4 cycles Cresson, otherwise it teleports around and you have to retreat and redeploy everyone

brisk surge
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arf filling up my clue 7 warehouse for the next 3 months 🥹

smoky halo
brisk surge
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waow sentinel so draft heavy SoraWow

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do you just explode if no ng

smoky halo
scarlet fulcrum
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No

smoky halo
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and ur suppose to prio hope relics over dmg relics generally since the maps are solveable relicless

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🫡

full terrace
brisk surge
scarlet fulcrum
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U dont really need most of em

brisk surge
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ill get there one day

smoky halo
brisk surge
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i see so hp relics and hope relics good

smoky halo
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no just draft ng

brisk surge
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I dont have ng joe_mad

smoky halo
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she has been shop multiple times now

brisk surge
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180 for a medic for specific stages 🥹

smoky halo
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she will appear again and again

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🥱

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dos s3, sentinel, cognitive correction

full terrace
smoky halo
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idk man kinda worth if u ask me

brisk surge
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when i get a new job ill just 30$ it

smoky halo
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just 180 certs bozo

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:lappphone:

brisk surge
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180 certs is more pulls than 30$ would

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im pretty sure

smoky halo
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?

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30 dollars is 60 pulls

brisk surge
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is it ReedBean

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i dont buy pulls that often

smoky halo
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buy 6 monthlies

brisk surge
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okay not monthlies joe_mad

smoky halo
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then 30 bucks is 30 pulls

full terrace
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Thats why HP relics

brisk surge
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if i play on like

full terrace
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Or the Foldartals combo

brisk surge
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d10 do i still explode

full terrace
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The HP ones

smoky halo
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u explode if u dont have hp relic or ng, ask cresson why he does 9k arts dmg hit on phase 2

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👍

full terrace
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Keep the HP and aspd Foldartals for boss really

brisk surge
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damn

full terrace
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Always do this in IS4

smoky halo
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just cert ng

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good investment

brisk surge
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30 dolla in 6 months its fine

smoky halo
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6 months of not playing is wild

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🚬

full terrace
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Plenty of bosses do Arts damage

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She neutralizes all of them

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Talulah, the Pepe mummy

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Then bunch of IS bosses

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Enemies do either Physical or Arts damage, I'd say she is pretty staple

brisk surge
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i just blasted kristen 🥹

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i havent had a situation where i needed it basically

scarlet fulcrum
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Basically different games

brisk surge
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its fine

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30 dolla

full terrace
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Highroll your recruitment

scarlet fulcrum
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Just certs her if u still no luck from TO, p5 shining and p2 ng so can relate

full terrace
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Top Op + Medic for Nightingale

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😏

brisk surge
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im like amigo luck with top op

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i dont even see the tag

full terrace
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Nightingale for Arts, Eyjaberry for Elemental and Global heal

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You are set

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Physical damage is whatever, plenty of Defenders can tank

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With proper healings

brisk surge
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thats a good point

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i guess ill have certs for it

full terrace
# brisk surge waow sentinel so draft heavy <:SoraWow:649634512493346840>

It really is. Lemme see the mandatory ones...

  • Degen for Cresson
  • Ela for Mines or Bard for Inspiration (or both)
  • Shu for Cresson (dragging it back to Degen's range)
  • Nightingale for survival
  • Ines for anti-stealth
  • A number of very strong laneholders or FRDs depending on your playstyle (I dont need FRDs coz I draft Wis and friends)
  • Plenty baits for the ice drones, and plenty of anti-air to kill all the drones (stage is drone-heavy)
brisk surge
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i can probs degen open borrow

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ng is the only other one i need i guess

full terrace
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If you are familiar with BB-S-4 dps check

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Thats basically it

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Except it's on both left and right (left has more numbers and right has heavier stat check)

brisk surge
#

bb s-4

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i might have to replay it

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i dont remember

full terrace
#

If you dont have some very very strong laneholders, employ stall technique

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So someone like Zuo Le or Ulpi that stuns when they use their skills

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Or Weedy S2 for shift stall, Nymph for Fear stall, and Qiubai/Ethan for Bind stall

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But seriously, make good use of Wis/Logos/Asca/Rosmo

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And Mlynar and redeploy your Degen to help

brisk surge
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surely after i get exodia on yu banner

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i can get all these guys up

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surely

full terrace
#

😏

brisk surge
#

i have to build mlynar

next wigeon
brisk surge
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mats where

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i have such good lmd production in base

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but exp where

next wigeon
#

Thats for you and your wallet to decide DocSmile

brisk surge
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i am not buying exp bro

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aint no way

prisma swift
#

what i do

full terrace
#

How on earth...?

timid nacelle
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wtf

maiden hound
#

cooked

glass monolith
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I'm sorta curious how he managed to lose everyone to fireball splash

timid nacelle
#

saria shouldn't be dead

brisk surge
#

surtr hospital

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🥹

full terrace
#

I Surtr Hospitaled that one yeh

prisma swift
#

i hate fireball people yeah

full terrace
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With the help of Doc

timid nacelle
full terrace
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For the fireballs

timid nacelle
#

a normal sniper and a medic should be far enough away at the edge of their range

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u only need 1 tile

prisma swift
glass monolith
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This won't be of any use but that's how my auto was (Yes we had to auto this shit in past) #strategy message

full terrace
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He wont, just heal

timid nacelle
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saria can't die to those frauds what r u on

full terrace
timid nacelle
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alternatively u can spawn camp with thorns

prisma swift
dapper hedge
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Use normal medic

timid nacelle
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tho idk how viable that strat is I don't recall what comes from the bottom right

dapper hedge
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Why are you using chestnut

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Hes absolute garbage

prisma swift
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yeah i kinda realised

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thought the elemental would heal more

hazy sinew
full terrace
brisk surge
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wandering medic/therapist known frauds

full terrace
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To stun the flying dublinns

timid nacelle
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nothin comes from the bottom right there's no red box
ye u can spawn camp with thorbs @prisma swift

prisma swift
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no thorns

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any alternatives

timid nacelle
prisma swift
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😔

timid nacelle
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tank with saria and a normal medic

prisma swift
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silence or ptilo heals more

timid nacelle
#

it's st

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so silence

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tho don't count on saria tankin literally everythin

brisk surge
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even sussuro is enough to heal

timid nacelle
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leave her on fireball tank duty

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use someone else to tank the other mobs

prisma swift
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how do i only tank the fireball

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it travels the same path the mobs use

steel prairie
timid nacelle
#

actually what r the levels on ur chars @prisma swift

steel prairie
#

ngl on the map view Ashy Marsh looks easier but also super deceptive

hazy sinew
prisma swift
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except for the damage dealers

timid nacelle
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ye ok what I had in mind won't work then

steel prairie
prisma swift
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i have e2 logos if u cant see from the pic dont ask me how i lose

timid nacelle
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hmmm

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why r u doin this anni again

hazy sinew
hazy sinew
timid nacelle
#

why r people not farmin zt-7 DuskGun

steel prairie
steel prairie
prisma swift
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heard its easy

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the boss fucked my ass so hard previously

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and the fireball people as well

timid nacelle
steel prairie
#

LOL

prisma swift
#

the whole chapter just fucked me up

steel prairie
civic bear
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if you setup far left

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fireball deals less damage as it travels

glass monolith
#

It is easy compared to fuckery of future chapters RedOmegaLul

civic bear
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so they are fairly manageable

steel prairie
timid nacelle
#

honestly I don't recall this anni low end clear

prisma swift
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someone said its easy CeobeConfused

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wtv ill do something else

steel prairie
#

I usually farm zt-8 tho since I need devices

timid nacelle
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farm zt-7

steel prairie
#

need devices more than the other thingy...

glass monolith
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We didn't had anni skips, who would fucking auto anni low end Bnuuy

timid nacelle
#

no oriron in 6 months

prisma swift
timid nacelle
#

7

timid nacelle
steel prairie
brisk surge
prisma swift
#

but if i farm oriron now then i have to farm device during yu
that makes me miss out on alloy no?

timid nacelle
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we get device like 2-3 times

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oriron u won't get any

glass monolith
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Why you missing alloy I have fuckton of it

steel prairie
prisma swift
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yeah but some mats come with device so u miss out on those

prisma swift
#

im new

timid nacelle
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from cnfarm command iirc

prisma swift
#

thats probably why

crystal meteor
#

just buy through parametric if youre gonna use alloy

glass monolith
#

Suffering of not enough material to do shit. RedOmegaLul

prisma swift
#

oriron it is wtv 👍

steel prairie
civic bear
#

looking at the team it def is doable

steel prairie
#

ok yeah welp time to swap the farm them

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(atleast I didnt go empty handed lol)

civic bear
#

it just not that easy in the sense of there are 0 threats on the stage

next wigeon
steel prairie
#

Ashy Marshes looks easier but Im getting a strong feeling it isnt

timid nacelle
#

it is I just don't understand how people position to get into this sort of situation

steel prairie
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k thats all I need to know

timid nacelle
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ashy marsh is one of the toughest

next wigeon
#

Some people actually lagged to death

timid nacelle
#

I managed to not first try it

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which is why Ik it's tough SkadiDaijoubu

next wigeon
#

The other issue is the Elem Dmg from the burning reeds

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The last issue is Eblana being the boss there

timid nacelle
#

ye had to actually take that into account
what no eyjaverry does to a mf

next wigeon
timid nacelle
#

it makes it braindead enough for my lowstep brain RedOmegaLul

somber shuttle
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use chong

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easy as

steel prairie
narrow pendant
#

Good thing pc client real

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Only took them 6 years🥹

next wigeon
next wigeon
next wigeon
brisk surge
#

isnt gpg the unstable one

next wigeon
brisk surge
#

so idk

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sounds troublesome

next wigeon
#

Hmmm

glass monolith
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Omg emulation performance will always vary based on what you using to run said emulation PtiloBrainDed

steel prairie
#

might be due to my hardware tho

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also apparently Gladiia pulls the furthest from her

next wigeon
#

Ye

steel prairie
#

also fuk these fireball guy (and Mandra... a literally bratty b#tch)

maiden hound
#

say the word

narrow pendant
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Dont fuck the cat

glass monolith
#

Only Harmonie has right to shittalk Mandragora HellaKek

scarlet fulcrum
#

Dude stuck for 2 weeks already

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Oh its nerfed version on anni

steel prairie
narrow pendant
#

Smh

steel prairie
narrow pendant
#

What an insult to the great depressed rock cat

steel prairie
narrow pendant
scarlet fulcrum
#

i believe u re capping knowing ur chat here b4

narrow pendant
#

Sure, be in a self-delusion if u wish

steel prairie
#

also fuk the fireball guy... for some reason the fire literally one shots my Mue wtf ?

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is Mue that fragile ?

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like its literally a 1 shot

scarlet fulcrum
#

read enemies ability

steel prairie
#

ik its the fire but jesus Mue gets reduced to atoms

#

but whats the best way to take out those clash of clans wizards ? (and Mandra herself) just have range characters ???

timid nacelle
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the closer u r when the fireball hits

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the more damage it deals

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also mumu herself is a twig

scarlet fulcrum
#

U already said it urself, use pillar for mandra, also in this anni she is nerfed hard (her hp or smt) so u barely need pillar. For evocator just avoid splash if possible, heal the blocker, or u can just retreat the blocker then relay

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burn burst from enemy side will deal 1.2k arts dmg afaik. I thought u already read but seems not

full terrace
#

#kirnforpresident

scarlet fulcrum
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#arflanyrformod

civic bear
#

the treat in that stage should really just be the sword guy. cuz they sync together with the other purple guy so they get buff

scarlet fulcrum
#

Indeed u want to avoid the aspd dude buffed if they smh underleveled. But apparently they arent

brisk surge
#

how many times is this gonna happen in hastag strat 😏

scarlet fulcrum
#

He is still on normal lv (beside the excuse when clearing stages with leak)

elder flume
#

surely Gladiia can cheese a weight 2

steel prairie
steel prairie
scarlet fulcrum
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If u want to reroute them its fine, as long u know what are u cooking

steel prairie
#

but eventually my healers can no longer keep up against the fire

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I was thinking the best way is to take out those fireball guys early... but I dont have good range characters (also have to spam lots of them)

brisk surge
scarlet fulcrum
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The reason u are not grouping them together, 1 or 2 splashed still fine

somber falcon
#

literally just tank KaltSip

brisk surge
#

omg hi casul

scarlet fulcrum
#

They probably group em like chad

somber falcon
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hi maxx

brisk surge
#

classic surtr hospital map

steel prairie
somber falcon
#

I'm not buying you having 0 ops that is tankier than a mfing brawler

elder flume
#

usually i would just ask for a pic of their deploys when theyre in their done phase to avoid long windy discussion like this

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also why are yall doing anni

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event ends before weekly reset

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you have time to do anni after event ends

scarlet fulcrum
#

they are too shy to show it to me, asked it for few times b4 and welp 🍣

brisk surge
#

they complained that every time they ask for help they have to send one pic of their team :ya: its like yall owe him one or something

crystal meteor
#

I thought wisdel fixes this problem already

brisk surge
#

assuming that they want to borrow

somber falcon
#

sadly skill issue is still something wis can't fix JessicaBruh

azure roost
#

so true

versed arrow
scarlet mortar
#

we hereby introduce: negative skill

next wigeon
#

Chongyue can tank the fireballs with 3 - 4 medics

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I can vouch since I did that strat when I started

limber fox
next wigeon
#

Smh

#

Krooster Stun is inconsistent

sage drift
#

my adhd can't handle this stage😭 I'd always be too focused on one side and forgot the other one

timid nacelle
#

I remember struggling

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then I decided to spawn camp them instead

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made it a lot easier

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also just kal on mandra ig

sage drift
#

wait there's mandra too here??

next wigeon
sage drift
#

bruhh

timid nacelle
#

this is h9-6 no

next wigeon
#

She arrives later

sage drift
timid nacelle
#

ye she arrives

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the number of elites is like spam

next wigeon
#

Don't waste your pillars too much btw

timid nacelle
#

lettin them exist for too long is a bad idea

next wigeon
#

You'll need some for mugging Mandragora later

timid nacelle
#

can also just use virt now ig

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or logos

sage drift
#

does mandra go to the left or right box

next wigeon
timid nacelle
#

idk I spawn camped her

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kal then next phase pillar +exu warf

civic bear
timid nacelle
civic bear
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technically its a 2 lane

next wigeon
# civic bear

Where's the image that has the mugging pillars indicated

civic bear
#

just imagine the closest path to the blue box

next wigeon
#

I know pillar next to right exit is one of em

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2 pillars used for Pathing Reasons and 2 used for mugging Mandragora

civic bear
#

no mobs got checkpoints midway. only bot left corner which is kinda not that relevant.

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and even if you pillar to change path

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its still "2" lanes

timid nacelle
#

save yourself the trouble and spawncamp SkadiDaijoubu

next wigeon
#

I don't remember that stage because I've done that so long ago

timid nacelle
#

same it's been 3 years

sage drift
#

finally I did it, I spawncamped with AH squad (but also used wisadel as crutch lol)

#

ulpi stalls her pretty long

timid nacelle
#

told u

sage drift
#

thanks broo

timid nacelle
elfin river
#

tf is up with "Witch King"?

#

Sometimes, he teleportes the ops to anywhere he fancies, or just sometimes he explodes globally to the point that the game is over.

#

Trying the ZT-S-3 CM.

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And I heard bout some Logos bug, what's up with this?

sly drift
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He teleport the 2 most recent deployed.

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Explode globally is just time up. You ran out of time

elfin river
#

So I gotta do the same like Theresa? smfh

sly drift
lofty stag
#

Well all stationary bosses are timed

elfin river
lofty stag
#

I swear he did, lemme check

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Nope

#

He does

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He is timed

elfin river
#

huh?

lofty stag
#

We just

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Kill him so fast

#

That it’s not an issue

#

But as a stationary bosses

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He is timed

elfin river
#

I see.

#

Well, I'll look into this later.

lofty stag
#

That’s the “times up” attack

elfin river
lofty stag
#

Well it’s something similar for all stationary bosses as said

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Including sui

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From invitation to wine

elfin river
#

I see.

lofty stag
#

Have you tried the logos bug

elfin river
#

Nope

#

I heard tidbits bout Logos bug, but don't have the full context.

lofty stag
#

Basically

#

Have logos s1 online

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Put the device in range

#

Ensure that no one else can target it

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Also ensure that the blaster is targeting boss

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Once you place device

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Profit

#

Retreat device

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And take out second phase similarly

elfin river
#

It has two blasters. One towards boss at top left, and one towards the golden shit

lofty stag
#

And it rotates positions

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There shoudnt be 2

elfin river
#

Hmmm...

lofty stag
#

There’s also a visible timer for the blaster

elfin river
#

It does? Huh?

#

Will look for it later.

lofty stag
#

It’s like an sp bar

#

That’s the timer

elfin river
#

I see. Will plan accordingly

#

And will have two random ops deployed to prevent the teleportings

lofty stag
#

It may help to have mlynar and one frd

#

As mlynar taunt will have him as a target notwithstanding

elfin river
#

If I had Mlynar, I'd use him to clean the top left row

lofty stag
#

Therefore you can be a little more free with deployments

elfin river
#

I have Silverash, who does the same

lofty stag
#

Well

#

Sa doesn’t have the taint

#

Taunt

#

Mlynar taunt is meant for the teleport

elfin river
#

Ah, I see.

lofty stag
#

Meaning intead of deploying 2 ops for teleport

#

Just have mlynar on field

#

And only one need to be deployed

elfin river
#

I see.

#

So he taunts the teleport of any deployed op?

lofty stag
#

His taunt will always make witch king target him

#

No matter how many more ops you deploy

#

He teleports 2 ops

#

So one will always be mlynar

elfin river
#

Got it

pure orchid
#

I believe its time for bubble s2 usage 🤫

elder flume
#

the reason you didnt feel Alistair has timer is because everyone uses Lappland on him

#

silencing his explosion skill

lofty stag
#

I just kill him instantly so no problem either

lime kraken
#

struggling to 3 star SN-10 because of healers always dying to Spewers so my op that is supposed to hold and kill the Reefbreaker doesnt live to kill it on time, any suggestions? This is the comp im using, Popukar does no damage and die too quick aswell so ill consider to level her up

elder flume
#

im kina tempted to recommend Weedy to remove every Nethersea

#

but Wis is prob the more doable option

#

idk why Thorns is borrowed

#

prob old guide

#

spawncamp leftside

lime kraken
#

I was trying Thorns out for him to do most the work agaisnt the boss with some help and it works i just have alot of issue with top side especially left spawn on spewers killing my medics

lime kraken
#

Oh thanks ill try it, i didnt know that you could do so much damage from the drone if you used it that way, couldve saved me lots of problems 😂

craggy oriole
#

Any advice for both challenge modes of ZT-S-3 and ZT-S-5? I’m struggling to just get them both over with atm, they are the only things left for me to 100% the event and get the medals.

lofty stag
#

Have you tried the logos bug

#

@craggy oriole

#

Assuming zts3 is a witch king stage

craggy oriole
somber falcon
#

any logos works for the exploit

#

as long as you can get his s1 to activate

timid nacelle
manic oasis
#

Trying to beat ending 2 of IS5 any tips? Like what perks should I pick or what units should I use?

smoky halo
#

perks?

#

u mean squad?

manic oasis
#

Yeah

smoky halo
#

sniper medic

#

u can borrow rosmo then draft wisadel ray kaltsit

manic oasis
#

That's what I've been using but I think I'm just ass at this game I never make it work

smoky halo
#

build grey alter

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are you using lamp?

manic oasis
#

Lamp?

smoky halo
#

lamp of wishes

#

relic

manic oasis
#

What does Greyy even do

smoky halo
#

5star wisadel

lofty stag
#

Make use of hand of rumble

manic oasis
#

I'll be honest I don't remember all the relic names

smoky halo
#

uh

#

look it up ig

manic oasis
#

It's better to list off what they do

smoky halo
#

they make ur reroll more likely to turn into wish fulfilled

lofty stag
#

Hand of rumble basically makes flingers really good

smoky halo
#

and give u 10 ingots

lofty stag
#

You basically go to at least one encounter in f1 to get lamp

#

Like you would to get talon or doodle

manic oasis
#

I see I usually grab doodle

smoky halo
#

lamp is stronger

manic oasis
#

I see I see

#

How often should I refresh for wish

#

And lastly whats the battle strategy for Ending 2? I believe I gotta defeat the woman first?

#

Or is that in the second stage of the boss

wicked minnow
#

refresh bad nodes and keep in mind that lamp can guarantee certain relics under certain conditions and that will be the main reason you even go for wish fullfilled nodes

manic oasis
#

Support Rosmontis is not showing up found Totter before her

south spindle
wicked minnow
#

for ending 2 you have to defeat theresis twice. first time he walks away from theresa and the 2nd time he just stands beside her. he has DR based on his proximity to her. the closer the higher basically. there's a couple ways to get around it. most effectively is true damage since his DR is specific to physical and arts. second is using shu. third is using shifters with - weight relics and the shifter tiles

#

the easiest way to kill him is to just get a better run PodencoSip

manic oasis
#

The second phase of that fight is what kills me

#

I always get leaks

#

So I basically gotta brute force it with true damage as in Kalsit

#

And maybe Logos Nercosis?

wicked minnow
#

kaltsit is the easiest option and arflanyr has quite a lot of videos using kal in this channel

manic oasis
#

I think my counters end up dying really soon it's another reason I tend to lose

#

I wait on redeployment and by then I'm cooked

wicked minnow
#

the stage is generally kinda safe for ranged units

#

there isnt a lot of ranged pressure

#

mainly theresa's aoe blast, the clone guys with their swords, and the robot dudes that spawn bottom left

manic oasis
#

And doodle is always the first encounter in floor 1

#

Or I mean lamp

wicked minnow
#

not always no

#

it's usually in one of the floor 1 encounters but sometimes you'd have turbo ass luck and it doesnt appear

manic oasis
#

Ok cause first floor is either 2 encounters or 1 emergency and I know emergency is a priority especially early

wicked minnow
#

not necessarily

#

emergency isnt always a prio in is5

#

some things are better

scarlet mortar
wicked minnow
#

in floor 1 encounter is usually better

manic oasis
#

I see

wicked minnow
#

also some stages guarantee plans and those are higher prio than emergency nodes

scarlet mortar
#

occasionally there's also the energy orb if you let him get to bot left

manic oasis
#

I got a ton of plans and since I'ma load up on mental toil cause I'm doing ending 2 I might waste away my plans for 4 encounters floor 1

#

Well I have 3 plans so maybe just 3

#

How do I deal with the lower left dudes actually

wicked minnow
#

floor 1 you go for the 2 sprout encounter and the lamp encounter. it's not really adviced to move vertically there

manic oasis
#

Sorry if I'm being annoying with que I'm just really annoyed at losing this map

wicked minnow
manic oasis
#

True I'm just seeing if I can avoid going overboard with mental toil

#

I think my problem is I focus a lot on the center and put a couple guys on the left then the air blast kills anything I put there

#

I'm saying any op to prioritize to get deal with left like Saria or something

#

Maybe Blaze? Or Degen

wicked minnow
south spindle
#

Air blasts? What stage

manic oasis
#

I have my Krooster updated if you wanna check who I got

manic oasis
wicked minnow
#

like usually you deal with the swarms of enemies in the center so you dont have to deal with them on the left side

manic oasis
#

Yeah but there's the red box there

south spindle
#

You have a bunch of meta units you’re fine damage wise

#

Just a matter of learning stages and how to play them

wicked minnow
#

if im not mistaken, only these guys spawn there

#

they are like pretty weak

south spindle
#

Learning how to draft

#

Shields what stage

#

Simulated? Crimson?

manic oasis
#

You asking me? It's IS5

south spindle
#

Yeah

manic oasis
#

Ending 2

south spindle
#

You said smth about air blast im confused

#

Oh 😭

manic oasis
#

That wasn't me

south spindle
#

Like ED2 phase 2 surge attack

manic oasis
#

Or wait I did mention Ending 2 having those dumb AOE blasts

south spindle
#

Ah okay yeah

wicked minnow
#

i just assumed you meant theresa arts aoe

manic oasis
#

And the guys in the lower left typically leak for me

south spindle
#

ED2 you can actually use Kaltsit IS mod to do some decent lifting

#

I got confused by air

manic oasis
#

I tried that but I keep losing

south spindle
#

Wisadel might be able to force some but it’s really not gonna be much

#

You should opt for a piller

#

Puller*

manic oasis
#

I think the problem is I've never used Lamp before

south spindle
#

To seperate Theresis

#

Ah it’s just about playing over and over and finding what works tbh

#

Knowing what nodes are good value and what’s not

wicked minnow
#

those guys that spawn bottom left have 20k hp and 900 defense, just about anything you put down there should be able to hold them off. this is at d15 btw

south spindle
#

There’s so much nuance with lamp and refreshing

manic oasis
#

With specialists I usually go for Yalter or Doro but getting Gladiia might be worthwhile I literally just built her

#

I'm at d3

south spindle
#

Gladiia is a lot of hope if you have a cheaper puller invested might be nice

manic oasis
#

I think my Rope is E2

wicked minnow
#

your gladiia is unable to pull theresis btw

south spindle
#

There’s a tile that boosts pull and push btw

manic oasis
#

Specifically Gladiia can't?

wicked minnow
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your gladiia is lacking mastery and y mod 1

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uh no

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gladiia has the highest force of the pullers

south spindle
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Oh cheaper pullers won’t work?

lofty stag
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Don’t they all have max 2 force? Or does mod add another force

south spindle
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Damn 🥀

wicked minnow
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no

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cheaper pullers work

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they need mastery tho and - weight relics

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-2 iirc

south spindle
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Ah yeah

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Figures

manic oasis
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I got that module to work with the newer abyssal hunter dude

wicked minnow
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ye that's her better module

south spindle
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That’s fine but you won’t be drafting ulpianus in high end IS5

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You can but really wouldn’t bother

manic oasis
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If I had to grab a guard who would it be?

wicked minnow
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ok so basically if you are usign a puller, you should have - weight relics

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even gladiia with mastery and y mod 1 she only pulls him like 1 tile and slowly scoots him over after that

manic oasis
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So unless I get the relic and build Rope or something it wouldn't matter

wicked minnow
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yeah basically

lofty stag
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Do you have shu?

limber fox
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Wait
We talking abt how to kill theresis in IS4 Ed...2?

manic oasis
lofty stag
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Damn

wicked minnow
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you have kal so just use her instead

limber fox
wicked minnow
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kal is pretty good in this IS

limber fox
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the strat is to pull him into a hole?-

wicked minnow
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no

manic oasis
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Alright then sucks that grabbing support Rosmontis doesn't get her auto promoted with Sniper Healer squad

lofty stag
wicked minnow
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pull him to lower his DR

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so that you can kill him

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not the best strat

limber fox
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He has a phase2? 🥹

lofty stag
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Well that’s also another side effect

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But yeah forgot about the main dr

wicked minnow
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well the main reason you'd pull him is to reduce his like 90% dr to a managable level

lofty stag
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Yeah yeah obv

south spindle
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Would you guys draft Surtr over Degen/Sash?

limber fox
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Dman i barely could beat him due to his stupidly high defense
I had Wis AND Ray and i got this 🤏 to kill him
And now u guys tell me he has PHASE 2?