strategy

[civic bear]

blaze

chen s2 helps

[steel prairie]

my blaze.... well her dmg isnt very well for some reason

[civic bear]

what levels are your units

[maiden hound]

highmore

[steel prairie]

oh go for s2 ?

my Chen is using S3

[civic bear]

i mean you could use s3

[steel prairie]

I forgot to screenshot it but eventually they get overrunned

[civic bear]

you just need to play differently to abuse chen s3

let me guess

i bet your bottom lane died because caster

proc necrosis

[steel prairie]

but the main issue is that raindrinker

[civic bear]

on your blocker

[steel prairie]

yes... exactly

[elder flume]

its max Chen

E2 5ty Blaze

[civic bear]

tf

max chen is easy then

bro

if you notice

[steel prairie]

the SP stun

[civic bear]

the map is something like this

[steel prairie]

the moment Chen sp is like 35/36 she gets stunned like wtf ???

(thats why I was shitting on Zuo earlier as well... and people thought Im insane)

[steel prairie]

the moment its like 35/36 they get SP stunned

[civic bear]

rough pathing

from my memory

[steel prairie]

yeah ik that

[civic bear]

im pretty sure the red is the caster path

you see that

you can intercept this caster

[steel prairie]

mhmm

[civic bear]

at the middle lane

[steel prairie]

intercept them early ???

[civic bear]

just use chen

you can have medic facing right

on the middle

and heal chen

then yes just chen s3 this caster

[steel prairie]

ok... so essentially be more aggressive then

[civic bear]

yep

[steel prairie]

ok

[civic bear]

kill the sword guy too dont forget

those deal the most damage out of everyone

but they go around first

so kinda free to hit

you really only need to block 2 place

bottom lane cuz its the heaviest one

and for toplane BUT for toplane its better to block at the left cuz they all go to bottom blue box instead

also only a few go thru anyway

bring more arts idk what other arts option you got

marksman suck

[steel prairie]

ok eventually Chen and Silence couldnt hold it

ignore the Wis idk why she is there (probably accidently left it on)

also one of the caster runs to the top

which ended up sniping silence

[civic bear]

bait better

what is blaze doing there still like

abuse blaze range. you can do blaze-defender shenanigans bottom

you have skadi even

chen handle the middle caster

the top caster just drop skadi

[steel prairie]

chen did kill the middle one

but the bottem ended up leaking again after mon3ter died

ok I did use Wis on this one but as you can see even E2 Blaze just fukin tickles the enemy

[elder flume]

oh thats Standard ten-11

hm

because your Blaze hasnt used her skill

[steel prairie]

wait there is another 10-11 ???

[civic bear]

cuz blaze hasnt charge skill

[timid nacelle]

adverse mode

[steel prairie]

her skill is maxed level now but it still takes forever to charge it up... is it suppose to go faster ?/

[steel prairie]

oh

[civic bear]

you are supposed to put her early enough and then it activate later on

and helps you

[steel prairie]

ohhh

[civic bear]

its not THAT long

its like 1 wave long

[timid nacelle]

classic blaze complaint

[steel prairie]

but holy hell my brain hurts af...

[timid nacelle]

put her at the start she holds the trash

[steel prairie]

this game uses so much brain power

[timid nacelle]

no it doesn't

it's because u r goin faster than u should

[steel prairie]

well mine is hurting PAINFULLY right now (I have lots of brain issues irl)

[timid nacelle]

why r u already at ch10

[civic bear]

cuz you're going above your current understanding

[timid nacelle]

and why r u doin ch10 now

[steel prairie]

huh I thought I showed I was at chapter 10 a long time ago ???

[timid nacelle]

go farm zt-7

[civic bear]

it just consequences of lots of newbie qol

not that its necessarily bad

[steel prairie]

I did... did it like 5 times and was running low on Originium and wanting to get more

[timid nacelle]

we aren't gettin another oriron farm in 6 months

then just don't play

[civic bear]

wdym low on originium

[timid nacelle]

don't use op on san

[civic bear]

theres nothing to pull

[timid nacelle]

[steel prairie]

I didnt use it for pull... used it for farming

[civic bear]

bruh

[timid nacelle]

that's a bad idea outside of the very start

[steel prairie]

the game difficulty made me super impatient

[civic bear]

if you dont have sanity just stop playing

[elder flume]

theres only like 7hondo OP btw
once you use them all you will never be able to get more until new events come or the rare 6 hours maint

[civic bear]

dont be impatient

[elder flume]

well unless you buy ig

[timid nacelle]

like op is a limited resource unless u r spendin

[civic bear]

good things comes to those who wait

[timid nacelle]

usin it on san is a bad idea

[civic bear]

its not a bad idea if you are a spender

but are you

[steel prairie]

the moment I played AK my brain was going nuts

[civic bear]

just chill out

lots of the resource gain are passive anyway

aka base lmd/exp

[steel prairie]

yeah but a lot of characters dont get good till E2... which is driving me impatient (and making bad impression on those Ops)

and people been bashing me even tho they told me most Ops dont get good till E2

[timid nacelle]

hey buddy how about instead of sayin u don't understand things because game bad
u just play normally like everyone else
u clearly like the game otherwise u won't play it
complainin won't make it easier

also none is bashin u for not havin e2 and clearin the entire game in 2 weeks

we r bashin because u r complainin sbout somethin u shouldn't do rn anyway

[steel prairie]

bruh that "help" section was like yesterday......and that was on a character

[maiden hound]

man won't survive pre bp start

[timid nacelle]

k we get it #help bad
did anyone hurt you here

[steel prairie]

the "help" section literally just told me E2 basically....... I mean what else ???

ok

[timid nacelle]

u have enough now

slow down

play the game like a normal person

it's a pve game

there's no competition

[steel prairie]

ok

I guess I will take a break now

[rapid junco]

player vs ego
Real

[elder flume]

once your sanity recovers do event and nothing else

[steel prairie]

having actual brain problems doesnt help...

[elder flume]

except RA IS ig but thats a lot more brain

[timid nacelle]

play some is or something
Wis borrow can probably solo is-2
start with that

don't think he should touch RA

even I don't play ra

[elder flume]

i just do day3 reset

cba

[timid nacelle]

ye ass mode

[elder flume]

eventually getting crisis mode rewards is good but just clearing expansion 9 should suffice

helps you E2 some more

[civic bear]

just watch guides

everyone watch/still watch guides

[timid nacelle]

Honestly it's not the skill issue in this case
playin this mode sucks

[civic bear]

you can learn about some common concept from it still

[timid nacelle]

I had a 126 day run already

I just couldn't bother after

oh time for base rotation

[viral edge]

Best combo I can do if I don’t own ceobe, suzu, weedy, poca, blem, thorns, schwarz, hellagur, phantom ?

[rapid junco]

Erm

[still vessel]

#help question

[rapid junco]

Top support

[elder flume]

oh Lemuen S3 is a more advanced Sesa

technically can miss

[civic bear]

well yeah

if very fast

[midnight veldt]

Some tips for ZT-S-5?
I have logos yeah, but I can't get to the point where he can charge his S1 to dunk the boss

[timid nacelle]

what's ur squad

[remote perch]

Yahallo Arf

[full terrace]

Deploy him first on one of the red circled tiles. When the boss jumps to the pink squared tile, drop the thingy on Logos's attack range, there must not be an enemy in his range, and the thingy must be the only thing Logos is attacking

Also deploy Logos first to charge his skill up

[midnight veldt]

Something along these lines

I deploy Ines S3 first then Myrtle

I was taking Ulpi support to tank top blue box

so I'm deploying him third

then I try to set up thorns healers and Wis close to the red circles

I got a few attempts

in, but Logos is the only one who dies all the time

even with 2 healers

[elder flume]

He is E1 50 with caster stats ye

Tho the spots Arf gave is pretty safe

[midnight veldt]

I was putting him on the left red circle

[full terrace]

You deploy him first, the boss will take a bit of time before he comes to the top right. If you wait a bit longer and lets the boss teleport to the top right, your Logos is dead

[midnight veldt]

Logos is dying even before that

[full terrace]

Also bring one FRD to bait

[midnight veldt]

when the boss is in the middle

[full terrace]

FRD and Mlynar to bait the shuffle when boss's HP drops to 50%

[midnight veldt]

I know that

[timid nacelle]

K I have a solution
don't use logos

[full terrace]

Middle wont reach those 2 red circled tiles

[midnight veldt]

I need to get to that point first

[timid nacelle]

hr goin out of ur way to use the bug

the rest of ur squad can do this stage easily

the set up arf suggested works obv

but ur logos level or deployment order is fkn something up

[midnight veldt]

Who can reliably tank top blue box?
I was taking ulpi support, but he sometimes fails (maybe cuz no M3)

[elder flume]

Thorns with Wis is enough

[midnight veldt]

I wanted to take Blaze too, but noone has her in support anymore

[timid nacelle]

blaze will die without healing

[midnight veldt]

I put perfumer on the right red circle

[timid nacelle]

technically any solo op would

[somber shuttle]

Light

[midnight veldt]

every time

[somber shuttle]

handhold me

[brisk surge]

ulpianus is literally better blaze

handholding how lewd

[somber shuttle]

🫃

[timid nacelle]

coco

[somber shuttle]

i never really played this event

on first run i was on burnout break

[timid nacelle]

ik u r good enough at the game to do it on ur own

[somber shuttle]

need help on ex and s stages

wtf!

[timid nacelle]

put orb thing in dps range

orb kills everything

the event

[somber shuttle]

so real

[timid nacelle]

also yellow song is best

[timid nacelle]

what r u usin sham for btw

[midnight veldt]

Not using her for this lvl, just an old screen, since I'm not ingame rn

I take Kroosalter to take the node too, just left of the red circles

[timid nacelle]

jokes aside if u need actual help on a specific stage I will be here

[timid nacelle]

hmmm

[elder flume]

my clear was just this

Gav baiting

but not last deployed

[midnight veldt]

So much DP

kekw

[timid nacelle]

huh

[elder flume]

my playstyle uses a lot of dp in the past so its just a habit

plus my vg are strong enough to kill

[timid nacelle]

ely was prob overkill anyway

[midnight veldt]

I have Bagpipe, but not lvled

[elder flume]

dont have to copy those 3 vg

[midnight veldt]

I know, but I heard she's kinda good, was advised against her tho

[timid nacelle]

do u have her ?

[midnight veldt]

I do

but I also have Ines E2

[somber shuttle]

agents are already good

keep ines

[timid nacelle]

bag herself as a raise isn't bad by any means but yeah ines

[somber shuttle]

flagpipe isnt as relevant these days but they are always useful for rushing dp

[elder flume]

your team prob can do this easier

Ines Mlynar will bait tp

uh NG is Sussuro ig

[midnight veldt]

Should I take nigthingale support then?

[timid nacelle]

ye this sounds plausible

[midnight veldt]

What's the timeing on Wis and Mlynar skills?

just alternate

[elder flume]

ye

[midnight veldt]

But how do you cap the node tho? :d

[elder flume]

Mlynar will get tp but you have Saria to tank incase hes not there

[timid nacelle]

ines probably

[elder flume]

i dont use node in this run

[midnight veldt]

with S3?

[timid nacelle]

even simpler

[elder flume]

since i just 2 hit with Logos

[timid nacelle]

[midnight veldt]

I think lots of shielded guys will screw me

[next wigeon]

Use S1

[midnight veldt]

with no node

[next wigeon]

Black Ball has 100 hp which falls under Logos' instakill zone

[midnight veldt]

I know how to kill the boss

[elder flume]

you can use Mlynar to kill first 2 violin

Wis survives it too as long as you heal

[midnight veldt]

I'm worried about trash in the middle

[next wigeon]

Oh

[timid nacelle]

there's more leeway than u think

[next wigeon]

Wis'adel is enough for that

I killed everything in the middle with just Wis'adel

[midnight veldt]

ok, I guess I will try with NG support

and a few FRD to bait TP

[next wigeon]

I don't particularly think that the middle guys was that difficult imo

[midnight veldt]

I can replace Lumen with any other heal or?

[elder flume]

if youre using NG then Sussuro to replace Lumen ye

[midnight veldt]

Ok

if you do it without node, won't Zuo die to big flute guys that stun?

[elder flume]

stun wont come until later

[next wigeon]

Huh?

I killed my stuff without them having the stun ability

[midnight veldt]

There's a few of them going on the outside way

[elder flume]

if you kill boss fast then theyre supposed to stay in melancholy

[midnight veldt]

Yellow song?

[elder flume]

purple

[next wigeon]

Yellow is Happy

[midnight veldt]

that's what gives them stun tho

[elder flume]

[somber shuttle]

melancholy is what gives them stun no?

[next wigeon]

Hmmm

Its purple ya

[midnight veldt]

There's like 3-4 of them going on the outside path

[next wigeon]

I used Exalt to Lanehold them and it worked just fine

[elder flume]

idt i got stun in my run
will check

[brisk surge]

astrel go to bed

[midnight veldt]

I have him, but lvl 1

[next wigeon]

What???

[midnight veldt]

[next wigeon]

If you have Ulpianus then he can kill them steadily

[midnight veldt]

Maxed La Pluma was doing ok on the outside taking

[midnight veldt]

I have but only E1 80

I just got Ulpi and Exalt last week

[next wigeon]

[midnight veldt]

after getting back into the game

[next wigeon]

Unfortunate timing tbh

[midnight veldt]

Well maybe I'll clear it still

[next wigeon]

Wait was this during Phase 2?

[midnight veldt]

with the above strategy

[next wigeon]

I killed WK on no music time

So they don't get any buff

[midnight veldt]

I see

but it's always some music on phase 2

no?

just alternating

[next wigeon]

I killed him as soon Phase 2 started

[midnight veldt]

Isn't he invulnerable?

[next wigeon]

For a little bit yeah

Afterwards he's free kill

Wait lemme do it

[midnight veldt]

let me get the exact team

I'll have

[proud bluff]

Hey astrel, remember how you're using pinus in base

You might wanna change them to exp prod, you're using flametail and not vivi, so you have -10% to gold prod with them

[midnight veldt]

And NG support

[proud bluff]

I didn't register yesterday because i for some reason thought it was vivi's cc skill, but it's flametail's so you might want to adress that

[midnight veldt]

And I guess Ines S1 to cap the node if need be

[timid nacelle]

looks fine to me

[midnight veldt]

So I myrtle first, Zuo Le bot, then NG
Mlynar and thorns and Wis?

and Sussu

[timid nacelle]

ye sounds about right

[midnight veldt]

I guess Logos before or after NG

[timid nacelle]

before

[next wigeon]

There's no music ya

Eyjaberry got killed

[midnight veldt]

I don't have more than half of your ops

[next wigeon]

Zuo Le should do the trick imo

[midnight veldt]

With spamming S2?

[next wigeon]

Ig I can try it with Zuo Le next

[timid nacelle]

s3 zuo should do fine

[next wigeon]

Let me just change the op set up

[timid nacelle]

just make sure he drops low enough

[next wigeon]

Also I just checked

The ones that stun require purple music

[midnight veldt]

But I guess you gotta kill him on the exact timing to get no music?

[elder flume]

music just ends when he dies

[next wigeon]

Ohhh

I didn't feel like music activated on Phase 2 tho

Probably killed him too fast

[full terrace]

@midnight veldt here are your ops, Eyjaberry = any of your Medics

I ran the simulation with my alt for accuracy coz that account didnt M3-ed the S1. The rest is just laneholding I trust you can do that?

Ulpianus borrow like you said

[midnight veldt]

I cleared everything up to that point with no guides, so should be doable yeah, Idk why this level gave me trouble

[timid nacelle]

hardest stage in event gives u trouble

who would have thought

see u in cm

[midnight veldt]

It's just when u point out these strategies I feel like a small brain, cause I can't clear with all the OP operators in existence 😂

[brisk surge]

go to bed

[midnight veldt]

Thank you, I will try

[full terrace]

You are welcome

Best of luck

[timid nacelle]

it's fine

[midnight veldt]

Maybe also I haven't played the game in like 5 months

too

[timid nacelle]

the people helpin u here probably failed a tr stage once or twice

we all started somewhere

[somber shuttle]

dont expose urself like that

[timid nacelle]

I just forget they give u e0 ops so the range difference got me

[midnight veldt]

You mean when you get a new op or what? :d

[timid nacelle]

uh tutorial stages use e0 3*s

[midnight veldt]

Ah

[timid nacelle]

I am used to e1 range since I played for so long

so when I played one of the new tutorial stages I made position with e1 range in mind

[midnight veldt]

My friend had so much trouble on TR-S-2 in chapter 2
I think that stage is kinda too hard for a beginner

[timid nacelle]

and failed spectacularly

[midnight veldt]

Yeah probably we are talking about the same thing

[timid nacelle]

i did it next after knowin but still

[midnight veldt]

Also is it me or IS2 is way harder than IS3

[full terrace]

You do my alt's daily I go to bed 😏

[timid nacelle]

hard mode is-2 is like d5-7 of is-3

[rapid junco]

Go to bed?

[midnight veldt]

I fully cleared IS3
but I cannot play IS2, beginning stages are often too hard :d

I saw tho, that Wis solos IS2 with some support

[timid nacelle]

u also don't get to choose a good path most of the time

is-3 at least has keys

[midnight veldt]

Yeah, IS3 was way more fun to play, even when I didn't had alot of ops

[full terrace]

Yes

Ia wanna join me?

[midnight veldt]

IS2 feels like a big gamble fest

[timid nacelle]

is-2 was based on is-1 rework

basically that's the closest experience u have to is-1

[midnight veldt]

Wasn't even playing when IS-1 was a thing

I think I begun on Hortus de escapismo first run

[timid nacelle]

ye u haven't been playin for long

[midnight veldt]

I still wanna get penance

If she is still good

[rapid junco]

🚪

[midnight veldt]

[timid nacelle]

dk what good is in this meta anymore

I am usin old ops

they r still functional

[midnight veldt]

I feel like Arknights doesn't have as heavy of a power creep as other Gacha games

that's good

[timid nacelle]

it's there

[rapid junco]

[timid nacelle]

but it doesn't write off units

[midnight veldt]

Of course it's there, but it doesn't make the game unplayable if you can't pull certain chars

[timid nacelle]

ye

if u like penance that much get her ig

[midnight veldt]

idk when's the next banner

wanna save up for her

[timid nacelle]

I still hate her for makin me use s2 on her paradox sim

uh u prob want to save certs for a shop instead

[elder flume]

she just passed lol

[full terrace]

Passed

[timid nacelle]

and ye that

[full terrace]

..away?

[timid nacelle]

[elder flume]

banner

[timid nacelle]

she was in shop too no ?

[elder flume]

ye

[timid nacelle]

but ye never pull on standard banners

bait

[midnight veldt]

Well, what can you do I guess
Am still lucky for pulling Wis Logos Ulpi and Exalter with barely any savings

my luck ran out on those

[timid nacelle]

save for yu angle as always

[midnight veldt]

Is it also worth lvling Gladiia to combo with ulpi?
I don't have any other AH

[timid nacelle]

no

a whole ass e2 for 4% hp regen and 25% dr

use an e1 medic instead

[midnight veldt]

only against abyssal monsters even

DR

doesn't sound good yeah

[timid nacelle]

the dr is global on mod I think

but that also means u r gettin mod

[midnight veldt]

[rapid junco]

Nono bro, ulpi + gladia is different with ulpi + healer

[timid nacelle]

so no not worth

[midnight veldt]

Walter mod also worth?
I asked a few times but got ignored

[timid nacelle]

it is

every bit of stats is important for her

[elder flume]

would you prefer to IS4 draft free max mod Luto or free S2M3 Matterhorn

[brisk surge]

matter

[rapid junco]

Luto is unhealable. And melee tiles
Cursed

[brisk surge]

luto kinda just explodes no?

assuming d15

[dark mantle]

matterhorn

he can tank fremont

[timid nacelle]

luto is cute

[brisk surge]

is4

grrr

euthy is so en today

[rapid junco]

Cute but dying

[timid nacelle]

but ye matter is more sensible

[elder flume]

Matter it is

[dark mantle]

oh

errr

both are dogshit for is4

so it doesnt matter

[timid nacelle]

both r dogshit*

[rapid junco]

🐌

[sly drift]

I lose this. Holy shi

[brisk surge]

hit the boss

[rapid junco]

Use the balls to poke him

[sly drift]

Lose by time up. It was like 8s late

Bruh.. Holding right lane is lowkey max risk CC I'm not gonna fking lie

[rapid junco]

[brisk surge]

[somber shuttle]

🚬

[pure orchid]

Just use wis’adel???? This is so easy

[brisk surge]

maybe like max risk cc1 with modern ops

[dark mantle]

just use logos

its so easy

i heard logos is a secret 5*

[full terrace]

Iachan is poking people by the balls now?

[brisk surge]

always logo s1 ltg thunder in the background shilling

[full terrace]

So lewd

[rapid junco]

[sly drift]

Alright. Let's do another attempt

[sly drift]

Let's fkn GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@glass monolith I did it mate. This feels so glorious

[pure orchid]

👏

[sly drift]

Peak boss fight not gonna lie

[glass monolith]

Do you want me to ask how on earth you defeated pipe rave on outer circle?

[maiden hound]

huh? why bp

[glass monolith]

Why not bp

[full terrace]

How on earth you defeated pipe rave on outer circle?

[maiden hound]

thought something with higher dph would be more useful

[sly drift]

Literally only BP out the entire *5 who can hold right lane.

Those purple flute guys are insanely tanky. And it's just constant wave from phase 2 to finish

[glass monolith]

If i recall right second phase just spaws stun guys on other lane in stupid amount like 15 in 1 each 10 second or something

[scarlet mortar]

nice 5* clea-

myrtle
nvm 🥀

[sly drift]

Estelle and Ethan too btw

[maiden hound]

issa no 6* clear saar

[scarlet mortar]

i saw but i wanted to dunk on myrtle

[sly drift]

[next wigeon]

You blind, it's obviously midgelysium

Also there's no Ethan there, it's obviously Manticore but Blue

[glass monolith]

#strategy message

[sly drift]

In modern meta you probably just need ascalon and one random dps

[glass monolith]

I have shoperatored Weedy, I will yeet

[sly drift]

I'm actually surprised that you can perma stall them using weedy S2 though. I thought they are heavier

[glass monolith]

Not sure if it was infinite stall, but Ines knife adds just enough speed reduction for them to perish before leaking

[viscid mist]

Please refer to rule 4
yo ucan ask for the contet creator role if you want to promote your videos on #media-content

[pure orchid]

Satori

Ow man im 30 minutes late to ask smth

[elder flume]

[pure orchid]

Hi rain

What food do you bring us today

[elder flume]

time stop

as per usual

[pure orchid]

Uh

So is your run dead

[elder flume]

prob

[pure orchid]

🫡

Alr now do another one

Back in the trenches soldier

Is it something you did or just technical problem like lag

[elder flume]

not sure why this happened since SP

tho SP was disconnecting

while IS is time stop

[pure orchid]

Hasnt this always been a thing

Or, well it occasionally happens to me and a lot of people at least

[elder flume]

mine happens once every 3ty mins

or less

[pure orchid]

Okay not that often

That is weird

[willow sun]

maybe cache issue? idk

[glass monolith]

Oh man are we reaching RAM manipulation level of screwing with game?

[elder flume]

A lot of early IS4 maps have holes

[willow sun]

how broken is shaw for nmtf

[elder flume]

not great

theres 1 spot for her that works

but since every enemy comes in groups of 2 then her S1 is always enough

she does have 15 res from E2 to fight caster

[astral cosmos]

almond solos nmtf anyway

[smoky blaze]

did you put her in front of the blue box or??

[astral cosmos]

no? she'll instantly die

[smoky blaze]

so..

[astral cosmos]

actually I thought I'd taken a vid, but I only have a screenshot, meh
diff or emer doesn't matter, she still solos

[maiden hound]

3 e2s at f1...

[lofty stag]

Prolly first class squad

[somber shuttle]

5* spam

[smoky blaze]

S1 right? since it has 3 charge on m2+

[somber shuttle]

easy to achieve really

[astral cosmos]

s2 never does anything, yes that is s1

[smoky blaze]

The hardest part of 5★ runs is having build 5★ ops

[astral cosmos]

more than half of my roster is 5* so it's easy

[smoky blaze]

Lord of schizo 🛐

[astral cosmos]

got it

[smoky blaze]

Is it just me or almost has the fastest pulling animation among the puller?

[astral cosmos]

that's not impossible

[elder flume]

its same speed as Snowsant

[astral cosmos]

previously I had found snowsant and gladiia had the fastest animations, but almond may as well

cue in:

[maiden hound]

is this hitbox problems

[elder flume]

just animations

[astral cosmos]

animations and hitboxes yes

[elder flume]

if you mean why stuck then its tile below

so speedy that theyre not out properly yes

[wicked minnow]

so good they screw up

[astral cosmos]

it screwed up my clear back then as I had no other options yes

[elder flume]

<@&586570970345635868>

[wicked minnow]

wtf

[proud bluff]

<@&586570970345635868>

[astral cosmos]

a classic

[wicked minnow]

esex

isnt that a city in england

[maiden hound]

too early to be horny

[elder flume]

thats Essex

[wicked minnow]

true it is essex

[viscid mist]

you only need to ping once

[astral cosmos]

they're in all channels as well if anything

but yes

[elder flume]

shifter coding is always borked

especially Feater

[proud bluff]

Ya sorry it was sent already, it's ping issues

[smoky blaze]

I wonder what will happens during pulling animation then yu s2 at the same time

[astral cosmos]

I fucking hate shifter coding yes

[elder flume]

think of it as CS tp

as long as the op has no pull collision they can be pulled away

[smoky blaze]

Puller win?

[elder flume]

ye

assuming all done within 1s

since thats their pull timer

[pure orchid]

aw whatd i miss

looks stupid

[proud bluff]

Random got hacked and spammed catfishing/scam discord on every channel

[pure orchid]

bruh 🚬

we are too busy playing ARKNIGHTS here to bother

[midnight veldt]

How is your WK already behind Wis that early?
Mine only teleports after 2 big flute dudes already go to the blue box

Ah, It's challenge mode

[dapper hedge]

Are you on normal or cm

Oh ya its cm condition

[midnight veldt]

I was trying to repeat the strat in the video, but timing is off, WK is way slower

[pure orchid]

yup CM tp is much faster

[wise idol]

ZT-TR-2 it seems no mater where i place the vortex thingie the ALWAYS get through

This is the map

[next wigeon]

The tutorial shouldn't stump you

[wise idol]

wow VERY fucking helful you are

[next wigeon]

Its a comment not actual advice

[wicked minnow]

you just like press buttons

i dont really think the stage demonstrates how the mechanics works anyway

well it doesnt do it well

[midnight veldt]

Thank you guys

[next wigeon]

They should be fine with basic understanding ya?

Shoot Black Ball
White Ball shoots Physical Dmg out

[wise idol]

did litterly step for step what you did and one still got through wtf

[next wigeon]

The White Ball shoots the Total Damage done to the Black Ball in 0.5 Secs

[wicked minnow]

did Czerny die?

[next wigeon]

Huh??????

Are you using Happy Music

[smoky blaze]

Bet no

[next wigeon]

Purple Music kills Czerny

[wicked minnow]

he gets stunned before he gets killed

[next wigeon]

Or Stuns him

[smoky blaze]

Cus the trumpet will stun without the gramophone thingy

This is why instruction labels exist in the product. Some people just...

[next wigeon]

I love the Yellow Tune

Makes everything finish faster

Purple slows them down to a snail's crawl in exchange for Atk Buff

[wicked minnow]

i love the tune that doesnt have my units combust. it's a very cool tune

[somber shuttle]

i love yellow tune but not against the ranged guys, honestly just kill them really

🚬

[next wigeon]

Fair

They hurt ya

[pure orchid]

purple tune making fucking spiked chest for my poor wis'adel

turn that shit off NOW

[nocturne cove]

Melancholic*

[pure orchid]

yeah purple tune

melancholic such lame 4 syllable word

[nocturne cove]

Purple tune is so much better

!!!

[sly drift]

Anyone know how garbage is S2M3 healing on Quercus? I hope it's so shit so that I can give SP as many as possible before the ally HP fully recovered

[astral cosmos]

you can borrow mine to test it out yourself

[sly drift]

What ur nickname

[full terrace]

ReCock

ReChord#9454

[sly drift]

Howd you know it

[astral cosmos]

it can be found in my krooster

but yes i forgot to say it

[sly drift]

Accept fren pls

And change support to quecrus

[astral cosmos]

i was finishing my pokemon game

gimme a sec

mod or modless?

ah well you can select it yourself anyway I forgot

[novel parrot]

How does the Logos One-shot works?

[astral cosmos]

any enemy in range with current hp less than his current attack instantly dies

[novel parrot]

About the Event boss XD, sorry Abt that

[astral cosmos]

ah that

[somber shuttle]

logos instakills device, device first hit instakills

[astral cosmos]

ye

[somber shuttle]

basically the first projectile has infinite damg

[novel parrot]

I tried sometimes and nothing happened

[somber shuttle]

logos s1

[novel parrot]

Ik it's with his S1

[elder flume]

you either missed or did something wrong

[novel parrot]

But is it just deploy the device in his range?

[somber shuttle]

it works even with e0 logos though

you might be doing smth wrong

[elder flume]

and ensuring the first ball doesnt target any other enemy

[novel parrot]

Ah

That might be the thing

But this bug happens everytime you use the device?

[astral cosmos]

done

[elder flume]

kina hate calling it a bug

but pretty much

[novel parrot]

Worked, tysm

I redeployed the device

[novel parrot]

So it's a feature

[elder flume]

its just Logos mechanic

if hp < Logos deal 9999999

9999999 gets converted to physical ball

[somber shuttle]

device projectile transfers the damage

[sly drift]

They haven't fix it even on cn?

[smoky halo]

yes

[elder flume]

dont see why it should

[smoky halo]

its not a bug

[elder flume]

they never fixed Kirsten no

[smoky halo]

its normal behavior thats unintended

[sly drift]

It's abusable. It's not supposed to be like that isn't it

Like...

[smoky halo]

well yes its unintended behavior

[somber shuttle]

its unintended

[smoky halo]

but its not because of software error

so its not a bug, just unintended behavior

[novel parrot]

Lol

[elder flume]

a lot of AK mechanics are abusable

[novel parrot]

True

[somber shuttle]

bring back shamare + ceobe bug

🚬

[elder flume]

prob 75% of gamebreaking ones got fixed but the other 25% still persist

[smoky halo]

what bug

[somber shuttle]

https://youtu.be/Eeyra0bKKRQ?si=eITKvX10ekBTHGtH

4 years ago

i still remember the chinese guy explaining the "mechanics" behind this using drawings

since its so hard to explain with just words

[smoky halo]

this is krazy

:joyplush:

[civic bear]

the ol

memory bug

[scarlet fulcrum]

coco still saved this

[somber shuttle]

its so easy to search lol i have my yt open in the backgroun

i should showed the 7-18 showcase instead

[scarlet fulcrum]

[full terrace]

Smells like it's bookmarked

[somber shuttle]

💔

[smoky blaze]

I havent watched the video but seeing shamare and surtr on the same squad. We already know where this is going

[pure orchid]

I actually have no idea what just happened

[elder flume]

basically Ceobe talent breaks with Shamare doll

causing ops with debuffs on their kit to not proc it

i think this was back when i was still playing

but the steps wasnt shown until i left

[smoky halo]

witchcraft

[full terrace]

Surtr will return to you fully promoted on the next floor

[civic bear]

the bug is shamare basicly

[smoky blaze]

Did she bring back some hope?

[civic bear]

it interacts with memory not how its supposed to

can use ceobe/scavenger

those two are talents that checks allies

iirc goes something like. game has memory for buffs debuffs. normally each reserved a space of their own, also there are not a fixed amount of space reserved for this, so it increases as needed. but when shamare doll is placed it takes extra space of the memory and when it gone it tries to "return" the debuff but it only returns the normal amount of memory so the extra space get left out and thats where you manipulate it by doing the extra op deploy to position this empty memory. and then you deploy the op you want buff/debuff to remove. if you position it properly in the memory when you trigger the ceobe/scavenger talent again it tries to add and delete normally but then accidentally turned off said manipulated memory

[somber shuttle]

i found jet's tl, still couldnt understand shit

[civic bear]

already gone anyway

[somber shuttle]

true

its a very great discovery all in all

SA prevents the bug from occuring

W S2 can trigger the bug

[elder flume]

only bug i need back is Saria or Mumu

[somber shuttle]

i need you

[full terrace]

Ah this is very interesting

[pure orchid]

um

im sry for asking but still not understanding

[civic bear]

very simplified

[pure orchid]

dont even simplify, thanks for the effort

or, well feel free to do so anyway

[civic bear]

ceobe talnet = a
shamare doll deactivate a

but shamare bugged

so it creates b

doesnt do anything

it just there

[pure orchid]

so what deactivates surtr s3?

[civic bear]

this b

any op talent

is put in this place

well not any

but like most effects

surtr talent is when 1 hp unkillable and then retreat

iirc it has three effects

[dapper hedge]

Is that like the time freeze stuffs

[civic bear]

you move around this B so that

when you deploy surtr

the part of "retreat after x second" get covered by b

[somber shuttle]

from what i understand after summarizing jet's tl

[full terrace]

You so nub cant understand that

[scarlet mortar]

tldr'ing the tldr, the whole tech works by shoving surtr's forced retreat "buff" into the space meant for shamare's "missing" debuff

[civic bear]

and the missing debuff is stucked on ceobe/scav talent

[scarlet mortar]

wait why's it shamare, isn't it ceobe's talent

anw yh

[civic bear]

shamare is the culprit

[scarlet mortar]

then ceobe eats it

[somber shuttle]

its still so hard to explain

[scarlet mortar]

:YA:

[civic bear]

its complicated but

[somber shuttle]

but yeah shamare s2 or w s2 is the main culprit

[south spindle]

that bug still works?

[somber shuttle]

not really

[scarlet mortar]

nah

[south spindle]

wow spaghetti code 🥹

such peak

[civic bear]

the gist of it is that

[scarlet mortar]

shamare creates a blank memory space
sub surtr's forced retreat into that blank space
ceobe's talent "resets" this memory space thus shadowrealming the forced retreat

sth like that

[somber shuttle]

shamare doll's retreat buff expires and its memory is put back on the stack
ceobe talent activates and grabs the top plate (retreat buff)
game thinks its being used for shamare doll's retreat buff, but its actually being used by ceobe's talent
Later, when the game tries to clean up, it removes Ceobe’s talent effects by mistake (because it thinks the plate still belongs to the retreat buff)
If another buff is created, it might steal the same plate, causing Ceobe’s talent to accidentally remove other buffs later.

thus removing surtr's death

[civic bear]

works on any buffs

[scarlet mortar]

so what it looks like is that ceobe eats the op's talent description

[pure orchid]

yeah im nub

[civic bear]

thats why theres some video of enemies dumb stuff like

jt8-3/h8-4

tal doesnt spawn fireball

cuz it got eaten

[somber shuttle]

🫃

[scarlet mortar]

ceobe devourer of code

[full terrace]

It's like this (from my understanding of Ancool's explanation):

• First the red circle is normal memory, this memory can expand if needed
• Green circle is when you use Shamare doll, it takes "a bit of extra space" like Ancool said
• Blue circle is when the Doll duration is out and the memory wants to return to normal state, but it left out the extra space (red bar) used earlier.
• Yellow circle is when you use Ceobe to "accidentally" switch on/off that extra space (yellow bar)
• Finally Orange circle is when you deploy Surtr (green bar) and apply the yellow bar you manipulated earlier

Thats how I understood it

[scarlet mortar]

many color much wow

[somber shuttle]

or i could just

[scarlet mortar]

[somber shuttle]

put jet's tl and let yall try to understand it

but nah

its too long

[scarlet mortar]

ceobe after eating the fireball talent

[civic bear]

it just whatever

[somber shuttle]

^

tldr

ceobe eats

because shamare

[scarlet mortar]

i like how we're trying to explain a bug that was scrubbed like 3 years ago

[somber shuttle]

✅

[elder flume]

Itll return someday dw through another op

[civic bear]

ceobe ate everything because shamare hypnotized her with her vodoo

[full terrace]

I just want HG to fix the freaking Ulpi bug

I'm super super annoyed at that one

[elder flume]

Just like how Yu is the return of Saria bug

[south spindle]

whats the ulpi bug

[tidal sedge]

S3 deactivation counts as redeploy

It's fun sometimes tho

[pure orchid]

so ceobe cleans up after shamare's mess, but ends up eating surtr retreat "buff" as well instead?

[civic bear]

Not as well, instead

[smoky blaze]

huh? isnt that intended feature? I mean thats the reason why ulpi s3 can remove the debuff instantly
Is that really a bug?

[somber shuttle]

is ulpi's s3 activation also counts as redeploy?

or am i etar, im not really updated to this one

[pure orchid]

im trying to understand what i just wrote

[somber shuttle]

even on Yu's bug

[pure orchid]

what

yeah okay good enough

[full terrace]

Yeah thats the "accident" part Ancool said

[civic bear]

You'll see that on vid

Ceobe talent

[full terrace]

Need a bit of imagination to understand texts only explanation cant blame you 😂

[civic bear]

I think is inactive?

[pure orchid]

wheres that ceobe gif

[civic bear]

Even tho no ally in her range

Anymore

[full terrace]

Idk what vid but if the bug is fixed I have no reason to watch it 🤣

[full terrace]

#strategy message

[south spindle]

thats a bug 🥀

now THATs a bug

does the slug have to be there for it to happen?

[full terrace]

Ulpi S3 is redeploy yes, thats why if you have plenty Initial SP relics in IS, he can insta skill and throw infinite anchors that stun bunch of enemies

[somber shuttle]

cool

[south spindle]

Carpal tunnel any% ulpi edition

[full terrace]

But also if you get that one relic that freezes you when deploying melee op, he gets frozen everytime he uses his skill 😂

So freakin annoying

[tidal sedge]

Yep that's why it should be removed

[smoky halo]

i thought they fixed that interaction?

or is it only in is3

cos ik they changed the interaction for is3

[full terrace]

And this was more or less the Injury/Suffering #strategy message in IS, they shadow-fixed it but forgot about 10-16 CM condition

Freaking hell

[full terrace]

Still there, thats why I'm massively annoyed if I got that relic my Ulpi becomes garbage

[full terrace]

No it's 10-16 CM condition

[smoky halo]

damn unfortunate

[full terrace]

There are a lot of micro bugs in Arknights, most are not gamebreaking and got left alone, like how Logos S1 does not update the enemies status when they enter stairs, see how enemies got deleted at bottom left there #strategy message

[south spindle]

ah

thats why

🥀

man

i was scratching my head over how the hell it happened but forgot abt the stage itself

[south spindle]

i remember this one lol

PERISh

[pure orchid]

Top left too

Both stairs just buggin

Now i wanna find some logos stairs

Give every enemy that enters those stairs the curse of logos

[south spindle]

i also want to be cursed by logos

[still vessel]

NOT beating the allegations

[south spindle]

STOP GET OUT

[still vessel]

[timid nacelle]

buddy

[full terrace]

When you have the Hope but no Vouchers 😏

I just found out that Rosmontis is really good for handling Spiked Chest in IS4

[tidal sedge]

Lmaooo

[full terrace]

I'm drafting her more often now

[brisk surge]

He's on IS again

What a dalao

[full terrace]

Just IS4 😂

[timid nacelle]

it's the most replayable mode

I wouldn't touch RA again unless they made it autoable

[brisk surge]

I don't think you understand how much IS we consume everyday

Atp it's not even replayable

It's more like playing for highroll

[timid nacelle]

u aren't supposed to be playin that long ig

I can do 1-2 runs a day max before I burn out

[brisk surge]

Wdym you didn't join that 8 hour IS stream that we have everyday for the past 2 weeks

[timid nacelle]

u know maybe I am a full blown casual now

[tough sail]

is there a list of working nicheknights squads? I am currently trying to clear the event stages with birdpeople only but they don't have a tank...

I know some people do tankknights, musha knights or something like abyssal hunters

(firewhistle isn't a real tank in my opinion :p)

[timid nacelle]

liberiknights was legit iirc

[brisk surge]

generally if you want to play niche you should know what you want already, nobody is gonna help you if you ask for help clearing with niche teams most of the time if not at all

[timid nacelle]

almost every niche has 1 broken units except like low rarity niches and welfare only

[wicked minnow]

wtf welfareknights taking strays

[brisk surge]

sleepknights only has broken units (derogatory)

[timid nacelle]

defenderknights is really tough to play

spec knights has ela snd soon exu2

[brisk surge]

it isnt you just dont have the units

🚬

[brisk surge]

krooster how broken 🥹

[tough sail]

specialist I can see being really op yeah haha

[timid nacelle]

I have all 6* defenders except jess alt

I just hate tankin

[tough sail]

but sleep knights xD wtf

[timid nacelle]

[timid nacelle]

blemi erato+ company

iris

blacknight

[tough sail]

the one thing I was really interested in is freezeknights with aurora as carry but due to the little burst windows (at least I feel like) it's not gonna be really viable

[wicked minnow]

in welfareknights we have a poorman's silverash and uhhh exu and skadi and jessica2

[tough sail]

but yeah sleep knights just has a few units as well but I can see it pop off with blemi

[timid nacelle]

u can play the niche but exclude broken units
like sniper knights without wisadel

[wicked minnow]

sleepknights but doesnt mention eblana

smh

[timid nacelle]

I forget she even has sleep

[wicked minnow]

she's easily the strongest one there

[timid nacelle]

all I see is the big ass summon

at that point it's not sleepknights anymore

[brisk surge]

unironically underflow is probably one of the best ops in defenderknights imo

[timid nacelle]

it doesn't by any means

[brisk surge]

but people dont know that because nobody looks at anything below 6 stars

🥱

[wicked minnow]

underflow is heavily underrated

[tough sail]

I am really trying to let go of the 6 star mentality at the moment haha

[timid nacelle]

try non summoner supporter knights ig ?

[tough sail]

I even have blacknight maxed

[timid nacelle]

I mean it's not the 6*s

it's the broken damage

blemi archetto for example r not that crazy despite bein 6*s

but archetto s2 is a really fun skill to use

and blemi can actually do things despite ger reputation

if u wanna try a niche do 5* only

u retain the ability to use different tools

it's just the power isn't that great

4* only is too masochist and requires me to raise deep color which I am not willin to do

[tough sail]

sounds like a plan haha

gonna think about that

deepcolor is amazing btw

[timid nacelle]

I hate her with a passion

[tough sail]

but I ´kinda wanna play passenger even though he has a bad rep or used to xD 5* + passenger

[wicked minnow]

i've had enough fun with scene. deepcolor sounds schizo in comparison

[timid nacelle]

can play bad units only too

tho bad is subjective here

[tough sail]

badknights 😂

[wicked minnow]

yeah that's why we call rechord the fraud badknights player

[timid nacelle]

someone should have list somewhere

[tough sail]

aoe casterknights maybe? but the dp cost is gonna fuck me over isnt it?

[wicked minnow]

turns out some of the units he built arent bad

[timid nacelle]

just do caster knights without logos

[timid nacelle]

actual fraud

aoe casters only is like

[wicked minnow]

hell

[timid nacelle]

mostima dusk every stage

dusk mod3

the sp one

ye I wouldn't dare

honestly niches r over rated

[wicked minnow]

what if i like welfare units

[timid nacelle]

I am not sayin u shouldn't

I am just sayin it's praised too much

[brisk surge]

yo

can yall move to help chat

[timid nacelle]

is something happenin ?

[brisk surge]

some fuckos are giving shit advices

i cant

[wicked minnow]

honestly just screw around with a niche if you want to and see if you like it

[brisk surge]

need backup

[wicked minnow]

ayo

[timid nacelle]

did for a while tho it wasn't much of a niche

I got powercrept by cn tards fairly fast too because of the gap

[timid nacelle]

too much to fix
I am too lazy

[wicked minnow]

if you are complaining about his mitm takes i sadly cant help you

[brisk surge]

bro isnt playing 5 star niches

[wicked minnow]

oh right

[brisk surge]

hes just a normal guy

[wicked minnow]

i forgot

lmao

uhhhhhhh

[brisk surge]

BRUH

[timid nacelle]

they got told ray prio

it's fine

[brisk surge]

dont tell me you'd recommend mitm to a new player

[wicked minnow]

oh wait the ss is his account?

[timid nacelle]

the Chinese name guy is doin good

ye

[wicked minnow]

sheeeeesh

yeah he has really good 6*s

[brisk surge]

like why are they recommending 5 stars

but no krooster

not teq

[wicked minnow]

also mitm is like actually good tho

[timid nacelle]

he is a 5* player

[brisk surge]

baseline can be replaced with 4 stars