strategy

[brisk surge]

even flags are shafted by vulpis's passive gen and the ability to lanehold early

[novel parrot]

If there's no enemies she just stay there waiting for nothing

[elder flume]

Eh if you have Bag with her its insta skill so shes basically frd

[full terrace]

Her first hit always binds, and that bind is enough for her to activate her S2

[brisk surge]

if you use s3 its frd 🥱

[round pike]

however does vulpis work, haven't built her

[full terrace]

So basically you deploy her = worth insta S2

[lofty stag]

But less dp 🥹

[novel parrot]

Ik

[brisk surge]

ok go bring triple flag then :realmad:

[full terrace]

If there is no enemy there is no need to deploy Vanguard and just wait for your natural DP recovery

Then deploy your laneholders right away

[novel parrot]

I'm going to try more using Ines

[full terrace]

Wisadel or whatever

[novel parrot]

Bye bye Bagpipe

[full terrace]

"Bye bye Bagpipe" 😂😂

[elder flume]

Damn yall brainwashed Bagless

Sad day

[lofty stag]

Bagless

No I ain’t

I just like using other ops

[brisk surge]

i dont even use bag in CC 💢

[full terrace]

I'm just speaking from an efficiency perspective

[brisk surge]

id rather use the bagpipe slot for sash -10% redeploy timer 🚬

[novel parrot]

How this works?

I never understand it.

[lofty stag]

It’s his talent?

It just reduces everyone else’s redeploy time

By 10%

[elder flume]

Unless hes mod3 where he needs to be deployed

[lofty stag]

What’s not to understand

[novel parrot]

I think I never looked at the time numbers correctly

[lofty stag]

We are NEVER beating the en allegations

[novel parrot]

Bruh, it's not like this, I mostly look at Executors and Agent time, like 16 and 30 secs. Bot for the other OPs, I don't remember the time correctly

Is it 70 secs or 60 secs?

[lofty stag]

Agents are 35 actually 🥱

70 is the general

And executors are I think originally 18?

[novel parrot]

My Ines is P2 and Texas at max

[full terrace]

I believe FRDs are 18 secs

Executors

[lofty stag]

P2 is the dp pot

You mean p3?

[elder flume]

CS is 22s

[novel parrot]

*3

She has the Time reduction

[full terrace]

I see it varies from unit to unit then

[lofty stag]

wtf cs is 22 legit?

[novel parrot]

What?

[elder flume]

More like welfares having different stats due to easy access to P6

[novel parrot]

Ah Crownslayer

[lofty stag]

Ohhh it’s 22 down to the executor standard of 18

Through pots

[elder flume]

If you look through welfares theyre generally 80s

[novel parrot]

Yeah, she has -4 and I looked Texas and she has -2

About secs

[lofty stag]

wtf

Welfares suck

[novel parrot]

At least they are free

[somber falcon]

All executors have 18s

[lofty stag]

According to wiki cs is originally 22

[somber falcon]

Yeah ik

[lofty stag]

Then pot brings down to 18 standard

[somber falcon]

Still 18s because all pots are available

[lofty stag]

Still I wished it was 18 originally

Not like it would completely fix her

[novel parrot]

LOL texas went to 14s

[thick kiln]

Is it bug logos exia skadi alt , insta kill witch king?

I see a lot in YouTube aswell

[full terrace]

Yes

[thick kiln]

Ooooh ty

Imma try the shu gardener on witch king

[remote perch]

It's just Logos

Others aren't need

[thick kiln]

I try it now 1st attack of logos insta kill witch king I easily clear the stage wow

[full terrace]

Thats how I cheesed Witch King on my alt all the way to S-5 😏

[steel prairie]

THERE IS TOO MANY CUPS... how do you stop them from leaking ??? (wtf is this I feel like the villain in Beauty and the Beast)

HOW IS SURTR GOOD ??????

[clever hedge]

they're hit based so anyone with DoT is good, esp ambushers like ethan

[civic bear]

read what enemy do

[cedar hound]

Oh its the famous

[steel prairie]

Ok nvm I got it

Bruh I heard Surtr is good why is her arts dmg so lackluster ?

[scarlet mortar]

"HOW IS SURTR GOOD"
is bringing her to fight the least compatible event mechanic

[steel prairie]

The cups can only be dealt with arts dmg.... and isn't Surtr a arts dmg character ?

[clever hedge]

brother they are based on hit count

[steel prairie]

But this is not the first time I used her btw

[scarlet mortar]

surtr's especially good at dropping in the face of high-risk enemies, proccing S3, and doing a lot of damage to them while she sits at 7k hp for a couple secs and has guaranteed 7s of being unkillable

[steel prairie]

Hit counts and it has to be arts

[scarlet mortar]

those hitcount mobs that require arts damage to kill are a terrible match against her bc they dgaf abt how much damage ops dish out

[clever hedge]

ethan s1

[scarlet mortar]

only how many hits you do

[steel prairie]

Btw what are high risk enemies ? Bosses ?

[scarlet mortar]

bosses or things that would kill your defender generally

[steel prairie]

Ah

[scarlet mortar]

she won't outright kill bosses nowadays

[steel prairie]

Atleast I got Krooster...... tho I have single digits LMD

[scarlet mortar]

but she's one of the few who you can throw far ahead of your defense

surtr excels at not needing actual support, since her S3 will also kill her at the same time it grants her the big damage

(you can keep her alive despite it but don't bother, it needs resources put into medics and a good understanding of where she'd hold lanes well)

[steel prairie]

Is there any characters that are a good “jack of all trades” or no ? (It seems like everyone is super specialized to certain extent)

[elder flume]

Ling?

[lofty sundial]

idk what you want, probably summoner like deepcolor
she deals art dmg, can hit flying enemies, blocking with her summon, regenerate her summon hp too
but weaker than other op overall

(summon also takes deployement limit)

[scarlet mortar]

ling, wis and logos are pretty master-of-many-trades

relative to logos, wis has the added benefit of being hard to kill if the enemy isn't packing aoe

anw they still have downsides naturally, this is a strategy game

they're already as close as it gets to ignoring what general content's doing

[cyan gorge]

I would vote Ela as a jack-of-all-trades cause of her delta mod

except she can't block

at least not effectively

[maiden hound]

simply cope s2

[steel prairie]

I dont have her (I wish I have her)

[next wigeon]

Key word: "Should"

Operational Definition: Everything as in Damage like from Physical to True Damage but can handle most Elemental Damage except Necrosis which negates Zuo Le and this doesn't include Status Effects, Only 2 Ops causes Self Cleanse which is Lessing S3 and Pepe S1 while Lumen S2 and S3 has Status Effect Removal. Zuo Le is still one of the tankiest thing on terra since his skill is spammable but if you want tankiest with less thinking and pressing then Ulpianus with Gladiia

[maiden hound]

necrosis cucks zuo cuz it depletes sp

[next wigeon]

Basically yes

Lessing is Bad, Pepe is decent but her S1 is a bad skill

I kinda like Pepe

[maiden hound]

anyways nuance in text consumption is dead apparently

[next wigeon]

[brisk surge]

hey dont come to strat we dont want senshi s1

[wicked minnow]

Auva if you are gonna post the same thing let me reitterate: it has bad hp/s, the buff is random, doesnt save charges when they are actually needed, heals once every millenium since higher sp cost, doesnt get affected by +sp/s relics since he has a 3 second ready time

[brisk surge]

yeah the rng on the effects makes it so bad

[wicked minnow]

i have him m6 already there's no point in shilling him

he is ass

rng is just a single part of it

[brisk surge]

exactly we arent talking about the low stats of a 5 star

and much more

[pure orchid]

I am not blogging

[sly drift]

Yea.. it's resolved now. #help message

But holy fuck #683721151301681188

Maybe I really need to use question sentence on very beginning of my text lmao

[next wigeon]

Ya

Sometimes people just post stuff with no context

[wicked minnow]

that would help since people usually expect questions there ye

[brisk surge]

you say that like we arent the same people in both channels 🚬

[civic bear]

i like him better than some depending on use

[wicked viper]

for s2 or s1

[civic bear]

s1

s2 is fake

you want to use him like hung that doesnt need to take hits

in that aspect hes better

[wicked viper]

oh modY at least

[civic bear]

sure its longer sp but like

[full terrace]

What operator is this

[sly drift]

Alright but Bassline S2 might ACTUALLY be good for Nightingale alternative
60s skill is decent

[full terrace]

Ah him

[civic bear]

depending on what you are healing for

which in this case its best for high hp high mitigation op

the burst heal is quite a lot at once

[next wigeon]

He is used for NG alternative ya

[sly drift]

Do we have defender that heal elemental?

[next wigeon]

At least that's what Fib did for Cresson before getting NG

[next wigeon]

Philae I think?

Wait no

She only clears herself maybe

[brisk surge]

saying fib used it means its some mentally insane tech

that most people shouldnt/cant use

[next wigeon]

They gotta do what they gotta do

[steel prairie]

oh yeah I have been encounter Sarkaz enemies that takes sp away from you in chapter 10

like those.. uhhh Sarkaz tentacles ??? those thing take your sp after hit for a long time

[next wigeon]

Yeah Zuo Le hates those

Basically keep him away from stuff that prevents Sp Regen

[steel prairie]

so its also apparently I coincidently ran into a lot of Zuo nemeses then ???

[next wigeon]

Basically yes

[steel prairie]

is encountering SP special enemies very common ???

[next wigeon]

Nope

[steel prairie]

ok so its just that I got bad timing ?

[next wigeon]

Unless you are doing Sarkaz Furnaceside Fables

IS5 has alot of Necrosis nonsense

[steel prairie]

mainly chapter 10 with those monster looking Sarkaz

[next wigeon]

That's why most guards in IS5 is bad

[steel prairie]

ic

[next wigeon]

Just a coincidence yep

[smoky halo]

[steel prairie]

ok so now I got Krooster, Gladia, and Teq... so now who should I build first ??? literally all 3 really need to be built but thats like....... idk 5M LMD or smth ???

[elder flume]

prob Krooster

your AA sucks

takes like 5hondo k ig

you can keep Gladiia at E1 for general purposes

[steel prairie]

uh judging from that statement does E2ing Gladiia changes her role ???

[elder flume]

and what are you using Gladiia for

theres 4 things to consider for E2 Gladiia

1. AH buffer
2. S3
3. pull force
4. better laneholding

[next wigeon]

E2 Gladiia is basically just for her module

S3 umm

Ig it's used somewhere

I prefer using S2 tho

[next wigeon]

Rain which Gladiia skill do you use more?

[elder flume]

mostly S2 for lanehold

[next wigeon]

Same as me then

[elder flume]

S3 has its moments

[next wigeon]

I like putting Gladiia behind Ulpianus

[brisk surge]

i use S2 too

but it gets so much hate for some reason

🚬

[steel prairie]

uhhh for pull force... wouldnt encountering enemies like a huge amount of rioters require you to have huge pull force ????

[elder flume]

pull force is the measurement to calculate if an enemy is able to be pulled

its why each enemy differs in weight

so no its not about number of enemies

its about the weight of an enemy

[steel prairie]

oh so the enemies weight doesnt stack ???

thank god

[smoky halo]

what

[steel prairie]

I thought that if you try to push multiple enemys (imagine multiple Rioters) the weight will stack up and you are unable to move them

also I thought Skadi is a Orca ??? you cant swing your sword normally like in lore under da sea ???

[timid nacelle]

lore and ops actual abilities r connected
but not that way

she's under aspd debuff

u can stop the debuff via the event mechanic iirc

[elder flume]

[somber falcon]

man is allergic to using free summons

[steel prairie]

wait does that ignore the debuff ??? how am I suppose to know that

[steel prairie]

wdym no its just that a lot of time people get in Mues way so she couldnt use her clone

[somber falcon]

so skill issue then

[elder flume]

you have 1 tile behind Lapp
2 tile in front of Lapp
2 tile above Lapp
to use her summon

even above Mumu is possible

[somber falcon]

unless you're gonna tell you are stuffing 11 ops all inside her range

[next wigeon]

Its in the tutorial and description

The bubble thing negates elem dmg

Im probably unclear because I haven't done Dossoles Holiday in so long

[steel prairie]

ik in this scenerio yes I can use her clones but its because very often a lot of things get in her way that I forgot

[elder flume]

start making it a habit

if youre deploying Mumu first then you have no problem putting summon next

[next wigeon]

You'll get used to it

[scarlet mortar]

unless the lore connection is mentioned in the gameplay, it doesn't exist in the gameplay

[elder flume]

Mumu summon is roughly an extra 5 ops block + 5 ops worth of dps + 1.5x damage for Mumu attacks

[steel prairie]

why is she called Rafela when she is clearly La Pluma ??? or thats her callsign ???

[maiden hound]

callsigns
also #ak-lore is right there mate ask there

[sly drift]

La pluma is codename

Her real name is Silvia Rafaela or something

[steel prairie]

oh ok... because always gets me confuse and its driving me nuts

[maiden hound]

it isn't strategy territory when you keep agonizing over "why is this character like that"

[steel prairie]

Im a bit paranoid of how this game has gotten me... sry

[next wigeon]

In story they mostly use real names, in-game we mostly use Codenames

[steel prairie]

also because Im apparently I keep missing everything I read... Im just trying to triple check

[maiden hound]

arknights makes the kgb men show up near my residence

[steel prairie]

ayo ???? am I taking this out of context ?

[next wigeon]

Kgb?

[maiden hound]

sorry it's fsb now

[next wigeon]

What are those

[maiden hound]

russian cia equivalent

[next wigeon]

Oh

[timid schooner]

https://fixvx.com/kurone_zero/status/1925938207083942269?t=17GGlDO1M2i_KIoYb5D1Ow&s=19

くろねっこ (@kurone_zero)

誰でも簡単、ロゴスで「巫王」ワンパン攻略

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vxTwitter / fixvx · May 23, 2025, 3:33 PM

new low end strat i think

just logos and boom rip king

[still vessel]

not new but ye

logos broken

[timid schooner]

is that like a bug or feature lmao

[still vessel]

bug but they dont feel like patching it ig

[dapper hedge]

that just how it works

[elder flume]

Not sure why everyone calls it a bug

Saga does worse things

[dapper hedge]

yea

[elder flume]

Saga is HG's doomsday child

[still vessel]

not a bug? what would it be then

a feature

[timid schooner]

[elder flume]

Just the way S1 works
If his hp is higher than device then he does one shot worth of damage which is 9999999

[glass monolith]

Saga when she ate DoS boss

[pearl breach]

Maybe because logos execute are not meant to be transferred as a projectile

[dapper hedge]

Its just weird interaction between 2 mechanics

[elder flume]

Then thats stored onto physical shot

[dapper hedge]

Cause the way each one works

[still vessel]

true, its not a bug if its just 2 mechanics working together unintendedly

[elder flume]

Is Yu S3 fixed

Both removing ally projectile and infinite burn

[glass monolith]

How dare they release new character without testing interaction with each old event when each event in AK feels like being coded by different man because even same looking shit can have different interactions with existing mechanics

[steel prairie]

wait why ???

is it the volume ?

[still vessel]

is it patched in cn? or did they just leave it like en

[maiden hound]

erm. whar

[glass monolith]

DoS event boss had feature of reviving, and while most bosses on revive instantly regain hp, he was staying on 1 hp for some time. So saga S2 would execute him during phase change

[steel prairie]

WHEEZE

thats why she is the best doggo

good girl... best girl

[glass monolith]

Sadly they fixed that in some way because NO FUN ALLOWED IN DOS

[steel prairie]

lmao

[full terrace]

This run was so bad yet so good 😒

I didnt record it

[pure orchid]

Didnt happen then

[elder flume]

CN can do Logos S1 just fine

[steel prairie]

btw is is canonically possible to deploy abyss hunters in deep water zones ??? (I mean they are clearly fishes right ???)

[glass monolith]

I know they did it on rerun, just some bruh right before event got to global said he can't do it in side stories on CN

[maiden hound]

dude take your lore stuff to th lore zone

[glass monolith]

HEY IT IS THAT CURSED MAP WITH S1 INDIGO

[elder flume]

They never fixed this either because its insignificant
https://youtu.be/_baYs4A7_cs?si=bXBvEANVOzqPKOIL

[pure orchid]

Thorns is bird but he cant block drones, checkmate

[full terrace]

Last time you said this I got a good run the next attempt and recorded it 😂😂

[pure orchid]

Maybe im secretly blessing your next run then 🤫

[full terrace]

🤣

I just wanna get an ideal run and leave a recording for this channel

[elder flume]

Istina is the only one that can be deployed without boat in that stage iirc

[full terrace]

I have no ideal Quilon recording yet

I wanna make one so that in the future I can link back to it

"here, this is how" when people ask

[pure orchid]

As you always do yes

[maiden hound]

the one where you leak

[pure orchid]

Gonna be handy to have such a recording

[full terrace]

Yeh, when you are talking about positioning it's a bit hard to explain in words

I usually draw on a map with colored circles and squares

[steel prairie]

bruh (why Hyper ??? wdym I cant deploy my abyss team in the water ?)

[maiden hound]

check what the map does

[full terrace]

But if there is a video to watch, people will get it right away

[maiden hound]

you can do voiceover explaining theory maybe

[scarlet mortar]

canon doesn't matter

[steel prairie]

ik... but honestly I wish you can atleast deploy the abyss team in the water

[scarlet mortar]

literally don't think abt the lore in gameplay, the mechanics exist to make a strategy game

[glass monolith]

It was not salt water

[maiden hound]

if canon is fact i wouldn't have to fight theresis and quilon

[scarlet mortar]

arknights doesn't give preferences to factions in their events

[steel prairie]

huh ??? I thought its clearly a ocean

[steel prairie]

LOL I wish too (is he hard ?)

[maiden hound]

lore does not matter in gameplay
never was, never is and never will be

[scarlet mortar]

^

15k is for the deep water zone

the shallow zones are like piss dps

[glass monolith]

Uh....

[scarlet mortar]

100? sounds abt right

[steel prairie]

also really I ALSO have to fight Theresis as well ??? is he super hard ???

AK bosses really want me to jump off a microwave

[scarlet mortar]

we fight many things

[glass monolith]

CN having boss fight with like 6 phases and first one spawns 3 tiles away from blue box

[scarlet mortar]

endspeaker in 2025

[weak gazelle]

dont worry as a doctor we fight everything :ya:

[pearl breach]

including our ex wife?

[next wigeon]

No no we already have boss with Infinite Phases

[glass monolith]

which of wives

[next wigeon]

Bloodknight

[glass monolith]

Dammit not you

I have luck of sending message 0.01 second after one i target

[maiden hound]

we should be able to fight viruses and bacteria

[glass monolith]

Reminded of SSS lore cutscene:
Doc: Why i am doing this?
K'T: I voted for you to do it, Amiya voted for you to do it, majority voting b-

[steel prairie]

WTF ?

[pure orchid]

can we fight prions

[maiden hound]

sure

[pure orchid]

how tho

[maiden hound]

if hg let us

[full terrace]

Guys, did you know that when you do offtopic in help categories you get warned by Shaw bot in private now? 😌

Max was victim number #1

[pure orchid]

Arf you are so gonna get muted for that 🚬

am outta here

[pearl breach]

bleck is another one, ig

[full terrace]

I'm just stating fact, no reason to mute me 😏

[steel prairie]

hey look atleast our Ex wife was ACTUALLY useful (like giving us map intel... unlike whoever is suppose to give us enemt intel in RH)

[weak gazelle]

viruses and bacteria is medic job
not us :ya:

[full terrace]

Bleck was a victim as well? Oof

[steel prairie]

and mine is doing a terrible job at that

[full terrace]

I'm outta here 😂

[pure orchid]

Hop in

[steel prairie]

do medics heal better in E2 ??? or no ?

[scarlet mortar]

no shit they do

[maiden hound]

bigger atk
go figure

[steel prairie]

like Silence for example.. will the heal per tick go up by quite a lot

[steel prairie]

I hope so.......

[next wigeon]

Medic Healing is tied to their Atk Stat

[glass monolith]

Usually people start killing enemies before healing is needed or just throw Eyja Alter S1 in

[elder flume]

Ye

either Podenco or Istina

[midnight veldt]

https://youtu.be/XXWaqU4ZT0Y
How do they one-shot the witch king through the aspect?
Do Logos + Walter do that much damage?

[rapid junco]

I got warn because chess interactive conversation

[vocal leaf]

logos s1

it just does it

[midnight veldt]

Guess gotta go lvl up my Logos, since I got stuck on this level in the event

[maiden hound]

logos "instakill" enemy under x hp
(deals a hit of 10 million true damage)
hits the aspect of annihilation with that 10 mil since not passing hp threshold
aspect of annihilation transfer the 10 mil to the aspect of creation as phys
witch king got hit with the 10 mil phys and dies of blunt trauma impact

[dapper hedge]

Pretty sure he doesnt even need level

[vocal leaf]

what lvl is he? just m3 should do it

[midnight veldt]

He's not even E2 yet

[maiden hound]

that's the run down of it

[dark mantle]

logos just needs e0

to oneshot

[timid nacelle]

u just need a logos s1 that's activated
even e0 works it's just less convenient cuz of charge time

[midnight veldt]

Yea I see, clever abuse wins once again

Thanks guys I will try

[timid nacelle]

u can also just wisadel because she's balanced

[vocal leaf]

no ew she’s gross

[midnight veldt]

I have both of them, but I guess I'm not big brain enough to win even with her

[timid nacelle]

u r just overthinking it

[pure orchid]

just point wisadel behind wk shield

give backshot, done

[timid nacelle]

put the orb in wis range when the spear is hittin the boss

boss dies

[midnight veldt]

Just recently got back after stopping playing Babel
I lost to a shitton of mobs rushing me after boss dies

[maiden hound]

wis doesn't do that much st damage iirc

so might want to pick someone els

[timid nacelle]

it's because all of her impacts get transfered into 1 hit

she solos ex-8

[pure orchid]

in my experience i can kill wk in like 1-2 cycles with her

[timid nacelle]

also she deals high st technically

don't think anything is faster than her outside of like

ray ?

maybe typhon s3

but yeah she just deletes the boss

[midnight veldt]

Should be well enough

[timid nacelle]

can technically use exu s3 on boss too

[maiden hound]

zuo s3 backshots on boss i think

[timid nacelle]

ye that squad kills the boss easily

[midnight veldt]

I kill the boss yeah, I lost to lots of mobs after 😂

[timid nacelle]

how

[midnight veldt]

Small brain gaming I guess

idk

[timid nacelle]

save mlynar skill

[maiden hound]

just wis it (wis it)
wis it (wis it)

[timid nacelle]

need to make newbies record their gameplay so we can see the travesty

and actually help them improve instead of do this and that

[midnight veldt]

So can I just lend Logos to my newbie friend and he can oneshot WK in ZT-10 too?

does it work anywhere

[timid nacelle]

ye it worksc

jist remember

first hit only does the one shot

if the boss isn't hit by it he just taked normal damage

so u need to put the orb in logos range immediately when the spear can hit the boss with no targets in between

[midnight veldt]

I see

By the spear you mean the aspects projectile?

K, I one shotted him, but then all my units died to something
Idk what, boss wasn't attacking them

[south spindle]

Idk which stage but yellow shield guys reflect damage

Your operators may have literally killed themselves

[midnight veldt]

From any distance?

[south spindle]

Yes lmao

[midnight veldt]

I thought it was only upclose

[south spindle]

Nope

Lapland alter literally kills herself from corner of the map

😭

[wary imp]

you can just
change the variation to golden

[full terrace]

Change the song to remove their shields

No shields = no reflect

[wary imp]

hi arf
-# didnt expect i dont ask in this chat since event start lmao

hows day?

[midnight veldt]

Yeah I just forgor there's a node just on the bottom of the screen, cleared it, time for challenge mode

[next wigeon]

Gold note is the superior music anyway

Gets stuff done faster

[sly drift]

No *6
How the heck I supposed to stop elites on bottom side lane.

They sprinting so fast when in yellow. And unstoppable (Stun on hit) when in purple

And you can't evel silence it. Holy shi

[full terrace]

Yo I'm good thanks. Not asking = getting better, it's a good thing 😂

[next wigeon]

Finesse it real good but in all seriousness, @lilac silo how did you do this?

[full terrace]

Yah S-5's hardest part is actually laneholding. The etc enemies that are not boss hit extremely hard

[sly drift]

One or two elites is fine but it's literally constant wave of that enemies

[full terrace]

I'm this 🤏 close to make a Wis carry Low-End

I was trying to make Logos clear but I'm giving up

[sly drift]

If only my Robin raised

[next wigeon]

I just used Ulpianus

[timid nacelle]

uh they can't hurt decent defenders in yellow iirc

maybe try nearl if u just want to do no 6* clear

[sly drift]

Just to make sure, are there more of shielded guy on middle lane after THIS wave?

Maybe I should dump most of my ops on side lane during phase 2.

[next wigeon]

I just watched Kyo's guide

Skillful usage of Pinecone tbh

[sly drift]

Nonono

[next wigeon]

Making use of the bends to murder the enemies

[sly drift]

What bends

Bruh.. Maybe Aosta

[sly drift]

Ahh.. make sense

But ffs they are so tanky though

[next wigeon]

Four tiles that can be shot at by a spreadshooter

Plus needs a defender to tank extras

[unborn badger]

what tag is needed to get myrtle?

[sly drift]

Vanguard Healing

[unborn badger]

is healing different from medic?

[sly drift]

Medic is class tag, it's difference from healing

[next wigeon]

Medic - Class
Healing - Anything that restores Hp

[scarlet mortar]

DP gen is interchangeable with vg

[next wigeon]

Well tbf only Vanguard grants Dp

So yeah

[exotic sky]

I have room temp IQ, and tried 3 times ZT 10 and get mission failed at the end when only the boss is alive and does AoE. I dont really understand how i'm supposed to kill him, as when i shoot him behind his shield, he just oneshots the stage.
There must be a secret i'm not aware off. I know i know, skill issue

[elder flume]

i feel like you took too long

whats the max on Witch King again

ten mins?

[exotic sky]

Oooh so he has a timer then wipes the board and fails mission

fk

Thanks

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can utilize the balls

[next wigeon]

300 secs

[maiden hound]

300s = 5m

[scarlet fulcrum]

Logos broken with it, any rapid fire or good dps also fine

[next wigeon]

Exusiai meta frfr

[next wigeon]

Use the mystical floating white orb

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its intended way to avoid boss shield. So utilize it

[next wigeon]

Backstabbing is the way to go

[scarlet fulcrum]

Making 2 tiles that synergy with balls on s-5 also funny. the mid one splitboxed and free on flank balls so op

[scarlet mortar]

there's some ancient lore that vg's didn't exist in the beta or sth and some guards were able to gen DP

so the DP gen tag might be a leftover from back then

but eh w/e, yato is a technical exception sth sth

[next wigeon]

Fair

[fierce tendon]

Does phase 1 boss leak?

[bold lance]

Yep. After 5 minutes regardless of his phase you lose.

[craggy oriole]

For the witch king, what % of his health does he need to be to activate his teleport operator skill? This should apply for both phases. Just trying to figure out the timing.

[fierce tendon]

Oh seems fine

I thought he was gonna leak after he teleports

[bold lance]

50% normally and 25% in S-3.

[versed arrow]

he also tp at end of phase 1, so if you kill phase 1 fast, dont retreat your tp bait

[craggy oriole]

Ah ok was wondering why he tp more than once normally, not the zt-s-3 version. Cheers, now to clear challenge mode on the ex and s stages when I have sanity.

[next wigeon]

He counts as a Stationary Boss

That means a boss that doesn't actually move nor go towards the blue box

[craggy oriole]

I believe stationary bosses just kill the life points in its entirety directly when you take too long. Usually it’s around 5 mins? At least that’s what the witch king’s countdown length is.

[next wigeon]

Yep

Basically takes 30 hp

[next wigeon]

The stationary bosses in IS (ex: Cresson and BSL) take 30 hp

[smoky halo]

nop they actually tp the blue box

after certain time

🚬

[next wigeon]

They do? They don't look like it

It just looks like they explode

[dark mantle]

the explosion is just to hide that they technically teleport to it

[fierce tendon]

Finally finished s 5 cm

[unborn badger]

is maxing the IS level this hard?

[wary imp]

he dont, he just -99 LP as he deals 2 damage when entering Protection Obj

[wary imp]

you can do 3-4 lv per successful run at asc7 (is3)/asc10 (is4+)

[next wigeon]

Not really

Its just testing your patience

[unborn badger]

i have been playing like 8h+ and still lvl 55 .. maybe im playing it wrong

[bold lance]

IS themes are released over 9 months. 8h for a third of it seems pretty fair.

[tidal sedge]

What difficulty are you playing at? And which IS

[elder flume]

at max token its pretty accurate

[unborn badger]

this sarkaz one ... is this the difficulty ? why is it locked

[elder flume]

need to keep winning with new diff to progress

[idle bobcat]

no idea if this the right place to ask but im going to fight phantom IS ursus teddy bear

I don't know who to put where

[bold lance]

Just Ulpianus the boss and hold the lanes. Don't point anything else at the bear.

[idle bobcat]

where does logos go

[bold lance]

And cope that Lumen/E1 gavial are enough.

[sly drift]

ONE problem left. Literally one problem left and I absolutely have no idea how to solve it

[glass monolith]

Don't ask me I stalled them with Manticore Ines Weedy s2

[prisma swift]

what do aginst that

restriction no sniper/casters

i dont have true damage

[remote perch]

You wait until they move when the stage is almost over

[prisma swift]

yeah and i cant kill him cuz his def is so fucking high

[somber falcon]

just whack it normally
not like it's somewhere out of range

[next wigeon]

You have Logos

It can ignore that

[prisma swift]

^ ^ ^ ^

[next wigeon]

Borrow a Mylnar

Or Kal'sit

[somber falcon]

you have SA right there

[prisma swift]

sa doesnt do shit wym

[maiden hound]

ela?

[prisma swift]

the whole skill didnt even do 10% of his hp

[next wigeon]

Also Virtuosa is a good option too

[prisma swift]

sa clears everything other than the top right tree

i think im just gonna borrow amiya

[scarlet mortar]

just kill that tree first

[prisma swift]

resort to borrowing 😢

[prisma swift]

with what????

[scarlet mortar]

SA?

[next wigeon]

I just suggested Kal'sit and Virtuosa then you resort to Amiya?????

[prisma swift]

what about the rest of the lanes

they die

[prisma swift]

theyre probably a bit too good

[scarlet mortar]

you're not just deploying SA right

[next wigeon]

??????

[prisma swift]

where do i put then

[scarlet mortar]

i don't see the issue

[prisma swift]

how does your mountain solo the tree what

[somber falcon]

they teach you about the trees in a tutorial

[scarlet mortar]

what does deploying SA for that tree prevent in you killing the other lanes

[somber falcon]

don't be an illiterate

[prisma swift]

???? i know how the tree works though

[next wigeon]

The earlier they are killed the weaker they are

[prisma swift]

love it when ‘helpers’ give no practical advices and just shit on u for not reading

[next wigeon]

Kill them before they get buffed by each enemy killed

[next wigeon]

Im helping you

[prisma swift]

ye i tried

s2?

mountain

[somber falcon]

not by judging how you complained abt their stats

[next wigeon]

Yeah

Tree is really weak at the start

[somber falcon]

it's sa that kills them

[next wigeon]

Mountain can handle it

[scarlet mortar]

deploy SA, mountain, proc both skills, 2/3 trees solved

[prisma swift]

did u break the tree first

[smoky halo]

horn

[prisma swift]

mountain right next to blue box doesnt reach the tree

[next wigeon]

Yes

[prisma swift]

oh ok

[scarlet mortar]

SA reaches both

[smoky halo]

also cant u just wait till they spawn

naturally

[scarlet mortar]

they're saying the things are too hard to kill

[prisma swift]

yeah and another guy tried calling me illiterate for that

^_^

i dont have true damage to deal with high def when its at complete form

[elder flume]

not S3M3 ig

[smoky halo]

1250 def is high?

[prisma swift]

no mastery

[somber falcon]

apparently

[prisma swift]

id say so yeah

[smoky halo]

does asca + ethan not stall them long enough

they have 40k hp

its not that high

[prisma swift]

i bring one more healer to try that ig

[scarlet mortar]

probs when combined with their DR at max buffs

[prisma swift]

bleck’s forbidden ethan asca ‘tech’

[elder flume]

you can wait a bit for more dp and more baits deployed before SA skill

youre better doing CM if you want actual test

unless the sniper caster ban is your own rule

[scarlet mortar]

nah that's adverse

[somber falcon]

it's the adverse condition

[scarlet mortar]

you can see the class bans in their op bar

[elder flume]

oh Adverse hm

why are they brought then

[somber falcon]

idk

[elder flume]

2 dead slots

[somber falcon]

i did the proof on adverse anyways, so killing that two is a non issue 🚬

[scarlet mortar]

wait wdym SA S3 SL1 is 50/90 SP

boo

ok someone else try i'll probs take a while to refresh

[prisma swift]

this worked
thanks for not being a fuckass and start insulting for no fuckign reason and actually give practical advices

[smoky halo]

🚬

[somber falcon]

don't you love it when people gets confused at the mechanic they claim to know

[smoky halo]

also they have dr?

is that like specific to that stage

cos i dont remember they have dr only high hp

[scarlet mortar]

only at max buffs

[smoky halo]

:naruhoglow:

[next wigeon]

Awh I was about to show you how to clear but fib got to it first 🥀

[dark mantle]

no

[next wigeon]

The tip was basically murder the 2 trees first with SA and murder the last tree with SA after redeployment

[smoky halo]

u can just play stall too

not like theyre ranged

asca claps these enemies

:ya:

[prisma swift]

what enemy kills were u at when u kill the last tree

[scarlet mortar]

wait huh i do remember them getting DR from sth

gg misinfo

[next wigeon]

Around 14 - 15

[dark mantle]

Yep misinfo

u will be killed

[scarlet mortar]

:dies:

[next wigeon]

@prisma swift

I used SA

But in range of Ptilopsis

Very hardy shrubbery after being watered by the blood of allies

[scarlet mortar]

naw wdym SL7 mlynar can't one-cycle a tree

washed

[somber falcon]

damn trash op 🚮

[next wigeon]

L Bozo moment kekw

[somber falcon]

time to unbuild

[prisma swift]

that probably was the intended solution

but stall worked so its wtv

[scarlet mortar]

could've waited for him to get to max buffs but eh

[next wigeon]

So it was your fault eh?

[next wigeon]

Stall mostly works ya

Just needs patience and not fighting against a boss that's stationary

[timid nacelle]

bruh

[prisma swift]

what mod does ethan want again

[scarlet mortar]

trial and error 🥀

[next wigeon]

Mod3

[scarlet mortar]

he only has one

and mod3 yh

[smoky halo]

he only has 1 mod

[prisma swift]

yh i meant which lvl

[next wigeon]

Ethan wants full mod for 84% bind

[prisma swift]

need m3?

[next wigeon]

S2M3 ya

Tbh Im ready to mourn for you when you reach Ch 12

It's the hardest chapter rn

You have Logos which is basically the weakness of Ch 13

[somber falcon]

only hard if you're overdependent on flags

[next wigeon]

Ch 14 is just puller and pusher showcase

For the Altars

[scarlet mortar]

ch12's fine, just don't rush your vg's

[next wigeon]

On the other half its just gravel showcase for baiting random stuff

[prisma swift]

prepare to see me often in this channel

[timid nacelle]

how about u ease up instead of rushin to it

and power up/ focus on other things

[next wigeon]

They are already doin it ya

No preparation is enough for Ch 12 other than be strategic enough and has enuf budgeting knowledge

[prisma swift]

im already progressing story as slow as i can

doing previous challenge modes before moving on

(?)

[timid nacelle]

probably better than movin to 12

tho uh

u can also do side stories

the esrly ones like

[smoky halo]

grani

‼️

[next wigeon]

I haven't done my Ch 9 CM stuff other than the Elite and Boss Stages

[elder flume]

Not stocking oriron device?

[timid nacelle]

yeah and ceylon

[next wigeon]

Device

[smoky halo]

true no orion farm in 6months

[timid nacelle]

also that

[smoky halo]

ts is so cooked

💔

[timid nacelle]

need oriron

[next wigeon]

I need Oriron and Device

[prisma swift]

🔜

will probably have enough sanity with monthly

[elder flume]

Event is only 8 days left

[next wigeon]

My ZT-8 is hyper optimised for whatever reason

[scarlet mortar]

ZT-8 isn't that hard to optimize

[timid nacelle]

I 2 oped with zuo thorns

couldn't bother more

probably ling can solo

[smoky halo]

how broken is zuo

[next wigeon]

Do you include micro managing the music?

[smoky halo]

:ya:

[timid nacelle]

honestly I love zuo

[scarlet mortar]

i did jess2 mzk

mzk kills the last mob at spawn

[timid nacelle]

freakin absolute unit

[smoky halo]

i used kal horn 🚬

[prisma swift]

wait do events go to side story/intermezzi after rerun

[smoky halo]

i kept my auto from last year

[next wigeon]

My dumb ass last year micro managed the music

[scarlet mortar]

it's like +5f at worst

[next wigeon]

Ya

[scarlet mortar]

i did micro actually

[timid nacelle]

my last year auto had uh
3 op
eyja thorns mlynar

[scarlet mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3dZ2WtmNWg

[next wigeon]

Yellow Music very superior

[prisma swift]

so no point bothering with the stages and tokens since i missed the first one
i can just go to the device stage and start autoing

[timid nacelle]

don't ask me I don't know what I was cookin

[timid nacelle]

?

get them

[elder flume]

You can do all theh ZT challenges to get extra currency since theyre better

[next wigeon]

Do them

[timid nacelle]

pretty sure we get certs too from pots

[next wigeon]

For free Loxic Money

[elder flume]

80/120 compared to 20 per run

[scarlet mortar]

oh mzk didn't spawnkill

[next wigeon]

I see them as a Profit tbh

[scarlet mortar]

forgor

[timid nacelle]

yeah lessin pots give certs on top of the pot itself

[prisma swift]

i missed the original one

[scarlet mortar]

eh it's still only one step outside the red box

[next wigeon]

Just get the Tokens

[timid nacelle]

u still gain by gettin them

[prisma swift]

ok

[timid nacelle]

is the point

[next wigeon]

You only need to do Minigame

[timid nacelle]

it counts as a dupe

[next wigeon]

They don't cost Event Tokens this time

[timid nacelle]

lemme check for confirmation

[elder flume]

The first Lessing will give cert

The rest no

[prisma swift]

[elder flume]

RR problem

[next wigeon]

Tbh you'll get used to AK life

[scarlet mortar]

jess S2 on happy tune was cinema

[next wigeon]

Many things were basically amazing on Yellow Tune

Purple Tune was meh

Everything moved at a snail's pace

[scarlet mortar]

purple tune was only good for like, eben ig

it's pretty oneshot-oriented

[next wigeon]

Ig it buffs Logos S1

[scarlet mortar]

not for long though

[next wigeon]

But eh

It's pretty mid

If that's the case just bring Warfarin

She's a more easier to do buff

Rather than activating all the music towers

[scarlet mortar]

buff army shenanigans

it's a free buff might as well

[next wigeon]

Well yeah but eh too troublesome

[timid nacelle]

weird I had 50 certs when event started

now 130

weird

oh it was the recruitment texas pot

[pearl breach]

Uhmm.. did you count lessing pot sir?

[timid nacelle]

ye with that it should theoretically be less than that

which made me think we got gold certs on top of the pots

[sly drift]

Hows S2 Exu alt priority on which operator she give the shield to

Is it the same as Aak priority

[timid nacelle]

2 geeks functionin the same

don't think anything is wrong with that

we have a cursed discussion about how aak targetin works somewhere here

but the best way to utilize is to just have only 1 op in her range and make it skalter so the aspd steal doesn't affect anyone

[scarlet mortar]

isn't it just enemy hostility targeting, but the tiles have taunt offsets

ig it's still cursed

[timid nacelle]

it's complicated doesn't cut it this time

[scarlet mortar]

but i mostly understand how it works so myeg

[timid nacelle]

where's the aak targetin cursed discussion

[pearl breach]

Aak targeting was like this.

4567
X123
4567

x is aak

[timid nacelle]

it was with meow so I remember it bein a headache

ye that covers it

he prios middle lane

[scarlet mortar]

123 have much higher taunt offsets than 4567

which is what makes it wonky ig

[timid nacelle]

and closer ops r prefered

still cursed ngl

[pearl breach]

Do we have any ops that give taunts to an ally?

[timid nacelle]

reminds me of the hate mechanics cursed stuff

[scarlet mortar]

vendela

[timid nacelle]

not sure actually

don't mind my net

[pearl breach]

You are right, s2 is +1 taunt. But it is still kinda clunky to use it.
Targeting max hp instead the ops we wanted

[timid nacelle]

the cursed stuff start here apparently

damn that was 4 years ago

I feel old

[scarlet mortar]

yh taunt value stuff

figured it had to mentioned it bc you don't expect taunt values to be interval scale

[timid nacelle]

still don't get how this couldn't be coded any simpler

[scarlet mortar]

eh it works, who carege

[elder flume]

Current taunt is the simplified ver

[scarlet mortar]

it's simple imo

just like, not what you first expect

[timid nacelle]

it got revamped at some point or u mean the way it works is the simplest ?

[elder flume]

Time_deployed was removed

[timid nacelle]

oh

[glass monolith]

No more 20 minute of waiting for messed up taunting?

[scarlet mortar]

we love overflow

[south spindle]

Overflow rerun 7 months out still right

🥀

[timid nacelle]

don't even want to think about taunt anymore

[south spindle]

Wait that’s underflow

[timid nacelle]

just lookin back at the conv gave me a headache

[south spindle]

Oh there’s just removed mechanics? Wtf

Oops didn’t mean to ping

[timid nacelle]

probably improved so it doesn't cause random bs when u r stallin cc bosses for over 200 hours

[elder flume]

Ye for Aak targeting it was taking into account Manhattan > taunt > time deployed

In some cases time deployed will win over taunt

[scarlet mortar]

wasn't the manhattan distance integrated into the taunt

[rich rune]

I wasn't able to beat the Witch King when the event first ran. So now I finally did. But right as I defeated the last enemy, I realized that at some point earlier in the stage, a fodder enemy had leaked.

[scarlet mortar]

time deployed too

[timid nacelle]

so ?

[elder flume]

They all are integrated into 1 yeah

[rich rune]

My frustration was palpable.

[elder flume]

Tho now time deployed is never taken into account

[pearl breach]

Do the stage again.

[rich rune]

I will. I was just venting. Also, what would be an optimal Lappalter placement for that stage? I her at e2 max without the module.

[timid nacelle]

zt-10 ?

tho honestly lap doesn't fit this event enough

[pearl breach]

maybe ex8 or s5.

[timid nacelle]

she will actually attack the witch king instead of the orb

resultin in her doin 0

[rich rune]

She cleaned house pretty well with s3

[timid nacelle]

that's zt-10 then

hmmm

[rich rune]

I'm trying to keep the with king in her range without risking getting teleported.

[pearl breach]

did you know that you can bait the teleport

[scarlet mortar]

the deployment's taunt-based, just deploy two ops after her

[pearl breach]

what a coincidence topic

[timid nacelle]

also u have the orb thing to kill the witch king

[rich rune]

Noted. I have some fast redeploys I can use then.

[timid nacelle]

like ur other ops can do high damage to him too

[glass monolith]

Proceeds to skip text and get Logos S1 teleported on phase change

[timid nacelle]

ye it's a joke threat tbh

what are quilon stats at d10

there's no way I am fightin 2m hp even If I can clear d15

[pearl breach]

The same thing like the other d15 strat.
You can use triple flinger, chalice & rob shop for 100+ aspd.
Then choose your dps option for quilon.

1. Qb s1 and perma stall him on the original position
2. Ethan right side + any of the goober flinger
3. Ulpi on the left side facing right. (Good addition for number 4 while holding two lanes at the same time)
4. Nymph asca for the right side. (Kinda ass and need a lot of work. But still works)

Also, you want to have at least two healers for his stage.

Your only concern is the boat timing. They kinda mess my run for the first time

[full terrace]

I used to overwish when doing a run using non-Blueprint squads, but I realize this is not an issue if you stick to Blueprint all the way and maximize the nodes worth

[timid nacelle]

Ik the strat I just wanna know his stats at d10 because I wanna do different stuff for clearin
d15 isn't that hard I just don't like to optimize every stage clear
I already did ed-3 on d15
I don't wanna fight more f6 ems

[smoky halo]

qb s1 isnt real

theres no hope

🥹

[timid nacelle]

I don't have qb

🚮

[smoky halo]

indigo is good

1 hope for bind

[timid nacelle]

last run I had a free viviana

[smoky halo]

generally i run ethan + indigo

[timid nacelle]

she was almost an op for 2 seconds

[full terrace]

Now the only thing I need to worry about is handmixing, I need to draft Logos and Asca but since that messes up the hands wishing, I have to time when I'm drafting them, which I usually do at F4-F5-F6 after I got the Kings set

[smoky halo]

why do u need to draft logos and asca

babel niche?

or something

[timid nacelle]

people do different stuff

[full terrace]

Err more like I like their general use

[smoky halo]

ye im curious

ah alr

[full terrace]

Some stages are more comfortable

[smoky halo]

thought u were running some niche

[timid nacelle]

I start ray and always get ros while doin talons

[full terrace]

I mean its not like those stages are not doable but with them is significantly easier

For example Heretics

Or the Mudrock stage, I had Asca handle all 3 lanes

[timid nacelle]

what was the site that gave us enemy stats

tomimi dev ?

[pearl breach]

Bruh. I misread that as a strat
It is 972k hp with 3.5k atk, half of the d15 stat

[timid nacelle]

oh that's why

ye I can manage that easily

ray deals 60k damage shots with good relics

[next wigeon]

Ya

[timid nacelle]

and yeah gg lapp because I enjoy handmixin

[next wigeon]

Or just go to the Wiki

[timid nacelle]

tho I run talon so I usually just lucksack hands anyway

[timid nacelle]

[pearl breach]

I never tried gg lap quilon. Isn't their skill is gonna be wasted on the mob instead?

[timid nacelle]

with just the hand and king's relics they should probably destroy him and the map

[smoky halo]

no

[full terrace]

Mech-Accord not advised because Undulation has a book, meaning you need to waste 2 more nodes for handmix

Unless you do what I do and draft them at F4-F5-F6

[smoky halo]

the issue with lapp gg is they have low hp so they can easily get 1 tapped
they might accidentally kill boat since global range
they have a book so -1 node

[full terrace]

But then your Hope economy gonna suck by then

[smoky halo]

outside of those its ok

the mobs arent an issue

[full terrace]

For Quilon run**

[smoky halo]

u kinda need help too

[full terrace]

Yeah what Fib said, they kill Boats too

[smoky halo]

for phase 3

cos lapp/gg alone isnt enough

[timid nacelle]

hmmm that's a good point
I should draft something that kills mobs that's not gg and laptop so i can shit on quilon p2

[full terrace]

Boats dps control is more annoying than you think

😂😂

[smoky halo]

and u cant bring both cos whos killing phase 2

[timid nacelle]

well I ain't doin d15 luckily

[smoky halo]

santalla is really good in lapp gg comp

same hand, scales excellently with aspd

and wants sp gen

outside of that you prolly draft haze for res shred (maybe texas s2) indigo for bind is good as always

if ur doing lower diff id worry about accidentally killing boat more

but ya at lower diff low hp is fine cos u wont get 1 tapped

[timid nacelle]

hmmm

I mean since it's d10

I can just save lapp gg + medic for phase 3 boat

The reason I dislike high diffs is the scale of difficulty that's enemies tanky and deal high damage that 1 shots ur units
sure we can play around it but I enjoy the freedom aspect more
I don't wanna draft triple flingers every game

[smoky halo]

theres multiple viable comps for d15

do u habe ela?

[timid nacelle]

ye but the only that I would run is gg laptop

[smoky halo]

u can bring ela + drone caster to phasr 3 instead

[timid nacelle]

don't see ray start at d15

and no don't have ela sadly because I was on break

[smoky halo]

thats prolly easier to execute tjan double drone caster carry

unfortunate

[timid nacelle]

I don't wanna do d15 anymore anyway

10 wins one on ed-2 one on ed-3 is enough

[limber fox]

Bah i give up
Idk how u guys play IS4 rly

[smoky halo]

u draft good ops

🚬

[timid nacelle]

i also did ray start on is-4

[smoky halo]

draft good ops then the stages solve themselves

[timid nacelle]

it worked so idk what's the problem

[smoky halo]

now all thats left is pathing

ray start is legit

[timid nacelle]

I also have reedic

[smoky halo]

in is4

potgated though

[timid nacelle]

mine is pot 1

[smoky halo]

it ok support unit exists

:ya:

i just borrow if i wanna ray start

[timid nacelle]

i won at d15 there anyway

[limber fox]

Bro i couldnt get anything
I they never give hope to get ops, even after killing the first boss
Every single time i ended up with a bunch of 3* because anything else would be a waste

[timid nacelle]

is-4 is better than is-5 imo

[smoky halo]

ya it only matters in like prisoners

so just dont get that stage

the technology

[smoky halo]

ur not pathing vertically?

[timid nacelle]

uh probably rng gate
I use eternal hunting so idk

[full terrace]

IS4 high roll that Migrate and win 😏

[timid nacelle]

pinecone saves my ass when I don't get+hope

[smoky halo]

well u dont need a lot of ops

[timid nacelle]

but yeah eternal forces u to play good or u get punished

[smoky halo]

f3 stages are clearable with 1 e2 + 1 e1 6 star generally

then f4 2 e2 is fine

[limber fox]

I do but not like i can do thay undefinetly or else the difficulty spikes
Not only that but hell how comes in the very first battle they spawn an elite shield caster, how tf am i supposed to not leak that thing

[timid nacelle]

I blame khant for corruptin me with it

playin with no debuffs is great

[smoky halo]

pick better ops?

idk sounds like a draft issue

[timid nacelle]

what r u startin with ?

[smoky halo]

degen beats that stage

[limber fox]

Yeah i use degen but that thing kills it along the other caster

[smoky halo]

are you using s2?

[timid nacelle]

no more than four em was a shitty stage but it shouldn't be that bad

[void iris]

vigil still so useless chat?

[timid nacelle]

yes

[full terrace]

Elite shield caster? No More Than Four?

[timid nacelle]

pretty sure degen clears

[void iris]

no :<

still no buff on vigil

he cool

but useless

[smoky halo]

degen e1 clears nmt4 normal

u leak em with starting squad

but u dont lose

e2 degen clears everything f1 f2

[limber fox]

M1 s2
I have to use 2 charges to kill the 3 guards or else they leak as well

[timid nacelle]

ye sometimes it spawns an aoe shielded caster
like the ones in sk-3 or sk-4 I think

[smoky halo]

wat u open e2 degen?

[full terrace]

Wis start solves 90% of your problem 😏

[smoky halo]

just use s3

s3 when the first 2 shield guys come

then s3 again when the group of 3 moves

[limber fox]

Oh sry i forgot Masteries dont count before e2

[timid nacelle]

if u have e2 degen it should solve it easily