strategy

[full terrace]

Shileds is live too? I'm currently watching Light

[brisk surge]

shileds is on fremont

its the cinema run

[full terrace]

Okay I'm switching

[pure orchid]

chat in the vc text channel yall

or get nuked

[brisk surge]

nope arf types here i type here

you are just getting fomoed part 2

🚬

[full terrace]

Dead to Fremont 🤣

[pure orchid]

ngl im kinda stressing over smth rn

[full terrace]

Whachu stressing on? Someone broke your heart again

My DM is open 😏

[pure orchid]

its just my grades zzz

dk if i graduate latin or not

[brisk surge]

[rapid junco]

Arf romance consult class?

[full terrace]

For Qyurii? Anything 😄

[smoky halo]

what is light streaming

[wary imp]

how hard is CC Battleplan compared to CC Operation?

[south spindle]

bye arf!

[full terrace]

Bye!

[brisk surge]

was that cinema though arf

[south spindle]

[brisk surge]

🚬

[south spindle]

did you enjoy

[brisk surge]

dying to mudrock in 2025

[full terrace]

😂

[south spindle]

youtube needs to bring back dislike

[full terrace]

Shileds provided better entertainment

[south spindle]

🥀

[full terrace]

Dead to Fremont

[south spindle]

he won smh

wait did he not win

[full terrace]

Nope he died to Fremont

100/100

[south spindle]

oh

🥀

ill play wis

and leak fremont

🥹

come back

[full terrace]

You leaked Fremont

🤣🤣🤣

Rosmontis facing down

[brisk surge]

actual inside joke atp

[south spindle]

mind control

🥀

[brisk surge]

those who knows ros facing down

🤫

guys

wis start btw

[full terrace]

Want me to stream?

[brisk surge]

id watch

im still waiting for my lunch

[full terrace]

I'll do it with Sniper/Medic otherwise it'll take too many resets to get a run going

[wary imp]

...

[full terrace]

No mic, and idk if my inet is gonna be good

Prolly will lag like hell

[scarlet fulcrum]

Easier overall, but some "missions" giving most young roster hard time

[steel prairie]

is Horn and Naratuya worth rolling for ???

[scarlet fulcrum]

nah save

[steel prairie]

k (tho I do need a defender lol)

actually survival guards are better

[scarlet fulcrum]

She is more like dps role than defending

[steel prairie]

oh ?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Fortress nature

[wary imp]

alr

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just wait for ulpian rerun banner, still far af tho

[steel prairie]

ok

[scarlet fulcrum]

U re not really new so yea should be breeze

[wary imp]

i hope so 😂

wish i knew this game earlier
cc operation looks fire

[scarlet fulcrum]

indeed, even certain hoyo game copy pasta the mechanic

[tidal sedge]

Standard banners are almost never worth pulling for, unless you really really want an OP. It's still a gamble

[steel prairie]

oh its because I remember Natuya has some sort of gimmick or smth that I forgot

thought it could be useful

forgot what it is

[tidal sedge]

Her range yeah.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just save, they are not worth ur pulls. Offrate can happen later

[tidal sedge]

Wish I got her, got nothing in the 50 pulls I did on Pepe banner

[steel prairie]

I remembered someone told me she has some armor pen thingy... but I forgot

[steel prairie]

ik

once I E2 Flametail the game was SO much easier

but I honestly need a VG to replace Texas

[scarlet mortar]

naran's gimmick is ehhhh

[tidal sedge]

Flametail E2

[scarlet mortar]

flametail

[steel prairie]

very good dps and can live

finally

[full terrace]

Yo @elder flume

[scarlet mortar]

bro has opener issue

[steel prairie]

but Texas...... damn I really need to replace her

[steel prairie]

I wish I dont get swarmed all the time

or camped

[elder flume]

Fak is dat

[steel prairie]

also I swear when I first tried Texas S2... I didnt see any DP gen at all (bug ??)

like I did not see the number go up at all

[elder flume]

100 message roughly per hour

[south spindle]

So

No

[full terrace]

Your activity in strat according to @south spindle

[south spindle]

Its not average

Its just total messages

At different times in the 7 weeks

[pure orchid]

We are so getting doxxed 💔

[elder flume]

Is that highest

I assume not

[elder flume]

Most of it is just cuz of SP

[south spindle]

Higher peaks than arf

ye

[pure orchid]

ARF GO TO SLEEP DAMN IT

wtf is this 😭

[south spindle]

But your sleep schedule is more predictable than arfs

[full terrace]

Sleep is for the weak

Mwahahahahaha

[south spindle]

im tired boss

[brisk surge]

damn

strategy chatters dont sleep fr

me arf rain

we have like no down time

🥀

[pure orchid]

i have downtime

does that make me fake strat chatter

[brisk surge]

yes

[maiden hound]

mfs act like they hustlin

[elder flume]

Its because i use my phone to play
Only laptop for chatting
At night i have to close laptop

[brisk surge]

you latino

qyurii

[pure orchid]

im not latino

well im recomputing my grade

hopefully i am 🥹

[brisk surge]

latino grade

[south spindle]

rain strategizes

and sleeps

thoughts rest of you?

[maiden hound]

wake up
#strategy
sleep
repeat cycle
prison of our own making

[brisk surge]

i yap

and sleeps

and i watch is streams

im like the biggest twitch chat

but i also cheat on all my twitch streamers

[scarlet mortar]

frankly getting swarmed means you have anything ranging from dps issue to placement issue

early game likes to throw dog rushes at you, flametail handles that fine

[elder flume]

Very much so
I use Texas since old age and still feel fine for the most part
Module just makes her easier

[scarlet mortar]

but if you're getting rushed by a harder stage you'll need to find more solutions

[scarlet fulcrum]

Flametail quite based for the job

[scarlet mortar]

hate texas

back when i wanted to try her out she refused to show up

[elder flume]

[scarlet mortar]

then she offrated me right before the pinboard mission update

kil

[scarlet fulcrum]

My first texas came from recruit i feel ya

[elder flume]

Not having S2M3 Texas is quite appaling tho

Extra stun duration + faster dp

[scarlet mortar]

texas before M3 is kinda defektiv

wdym i need to deploy a vg even earlier so she doesn't die to a dog rush

[maiden crescent]

if i can't borrow andrena or ulpi, there's no way i can do the AH strat yeah?

[brisk surge]

yeah

theyre kinda the important ones

[remote perch]

I mean Ulpi isn't really that important tbh
Andreana is more important since she's a low Tier operator so you generally use her to fill up your Number Requirment and your early game DPS for AH

Andreana also fill your Sniper Equipment requirement

[maiden crescent]

with doberman do i just stay at barge 1 for awhile to get copies of the t1 units?

[viral edge]

Can anyone help me finish my last mission for the core level I’m having difficulties now for some reason

[full terrace]

Here #strategy message

[elder flume]

Dober has 2 ways
Stack deploy limit to win R11 avoiding boss
Or
Go up Barge fast while having T1 T2 T3 ops ready to merge on Barge 4 or 5

R6 deploy limit or 4 funds or T2 T3 merge will help better

[maiden crescent]

how do you barge fast while buying units?

[raven rune]

does marking your operators do anything or is it just to show off your favorites lol

[steel prairie]

Flametail is good... problem is your getting rushed from 2 to 3 paths

[timid nacelle]

just showin ur favs

[vivid rain]

It helps with sorting through your ops sometime

[elder flume]

When you have less money than Barge upgrade you buy
If more then upgrade

[still vessel]

I get why max watches these IS streams

theyre funny

even if I dont understand whats being said 80% of the time

[pure orchid]

yeah its peak lol

[elder flume]

Live viewing of AK is always peak

my 13 hours anni3 run

[forest oyster]

is there like a braindead way to grind this protocol event fast to get to atleast level30 reward?

[elder flume]

Uhhh

If you want to multitask medal theres Dobermann strat in #help pins ig

Need 50 promotes

[forest oyster]

Can't see the pin

[somber falcon]

just play it normally imo
do the promotion medal last

[forest oyster]

One hour left till the event goes

Dunno if I can play normally and get it

[somber falcon]

[elder flume]

I cant link it so someone will

[somber falcon]

idk if even doing the cheeses can either, but ig it's more possible

[pure orchid]

#strategy message here

pick your poison

[elder flume]

What cheese

[somber falcon]

i meant the faster strats

[elder flume]

Lowest you can get it is prob 17 mins per run

Assuming R11 Dober

15 mins on fast pc

[somber falcon]

ye

[pure orchid]

my bb hool ranges from r12 to r18 💔

[somber falcon]

then 10-15 mins on foundation for the beat attackers ig

[pure orchid]

r12 is probably if u get breach

[forest oyster]

Thankss

[rapid junco]

Me with casual fartooth + ascalon gaming

[timid nacelle]

what does fartooth even do

[elder flume]

Instakill non boss

[scarlet fulcrum]

Actually nvm

[timid nacelle]

isn't that chance way too small tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

Maybe the angle rapid fire or smt like that

Cant wait for 70 certs, still far dang

[rapid junco]

Easy early wave survive

[forest oyster]

Thanks a lot for helping guys, managed to get the skin. was 5 levels away from the icon

[olive stump]

don't mention it

[pure orchid]

did theacc fall asleep in vc again

im worried for him

[lofty stag]

That might actually be what happened

[smoky halo]

@brisk surge r u awake

[pure orchid]

wrong chatter 🚬

[smoky halo]

i was pinging maxxers

zzzzzzz

[pure orchid]

yo hes gone

he woke up ?

crazy

[pure orchid]

why tho

whats max gonna do

[cedar hound]

Maxxing

[smoky halo]

im gonna strem IS

if he wants

if he doesnt i will just play without strem

[pure orchid]

[forest oyster]

You didn't even help me 😭

[willow sun]

no

i never slept

i haven’t slept yet

wait i gotta compose my pc

before

close

before i turn my room into a sauna again

[pure orchid]

please sleep

[olive stump]

how rude db, it's the thought that counts

[willow sun]

make me 💢

i need to send some messages first

so i can skew light’s data more

[pure orchid]

deploys kafka s2

wait is it s1 or s2

[willow sun]

idk imagine using kafka

(i don’t even have her)

[pure orchid]

its s1

[olive stump]

s1

[willow sun]

i think it was s1

[pure orchid]

deploys kafka s1

[willow sun]

bruh

[willow sun]

ok i’ll close my eyes for 6 seconds

[timid nacelle]

blemi s2 his ass

[pure orchid]

bruh this sucks 🚬

[forest oyster]

Btw me jumping in match now you coming?

[olive stump]

me flying rn, tomorrow ok?

[forest oyster]

[elder flume]

S1 can be cancelled if she dies mid deploy

[scarlet fulcrum]

Prob need specific stages for that since camo and 0 block

Oh wait Camo is not invis nvm

[limber fox]

Firewatch enjoyers in the corner:

[pure orchid]

I did not need to know that

Also what happened to the i-frames on deploy

[glass monolith]

Time to drop pillar, SN boss or what ever else

[elder flume]

you lose iframe when blocking

or rather

you have a frame where S1 doesnt activate

and if you die from that frame

Kafka does nothing

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh its not cancelled technically? Not activated?

[elder flume]

ye

[scarlet fulcrum]

[elder flume]

worse Red

[pure orchid]

schiza

[full terrace]

I got this when I tried to share screen

Wonder what is wrong

[pure orchid]

Thats strange

[full terrace]

It's a setting on my part I think

[pure orchid]

The only role you have is Rhodes Island, which shouldnt even be doing anything other than cosmetic

[full terrace]

But I cant figure it out

[pure orchid]

Have you tried turning it off and on again

[full terrace]

Yah, it doesnt work

I tried it on other server, also doesnt work

[tidal sedge]

Btw what do you all use Muelsyse for? When agents/flags exist?

I haven't built her ever since I got her

[elder flume]

used to be for op duping

nowadays S3 bind has good damage

i like cloning Wis on her

[brisk surge]

Guh

[elder flume]

Oh it just immediately fails you

[full terrace]

Muelsyse was so good at tanking boulder back in HE

[brisk surge]

Arf

[full terrace]

Yo

[brisk surge]

Did you check application permissions

[full terrace]

I did

[brisk surge]

Weird

[full terrace]

Idk what is wrong with my discord

[brisk surge]

i saw a thread where if you give discord microphone access

it works

[full terrace]

Oh I figured it out

Yah it's Microphone permission

It works now

Lemme test it, tell me if it works

[brisk surge]

Erm

My phone is tweaking

[full terrace]

Did it work

[brisk surge]

I didn't see

My phone keeps dcing

it works

[full terrace]

Cool

[brisk surge]

Is player 🥹

Bro has everything

[full terrace]

I'll stream later

Yah I maxed out everything

Btw did you see only my Arknights screen

Or the floating window as well

[brisk surge]

Bro

[brisk surge]

I only saw arknights

Bro I need to wake up earlier

[smoky halo]

i alr finished the run

[brisk surge]

To catch fib stream

Man

Can you stream midnight

Like 9pm is too early

[full terrace]

I see. I think I figured this thing out

[brisk surge]

Do you not play on emu?

[smoky halo]

u missed peak highrolling

highrolled f4 shop + f6 false truth

[brisk surge]

Man

It's fine fib

Next time

[smoky halo]

surely

[brisk surge]

Do d18 cessation ed5

[smoky halo]

i still have to figure out ed2 solve

[brisk surge]

I want to see that

[smoky halo]

but it needs relics

all the solutions r relic reliant

💔

[brisk surge]

Ed2 a?

[smoky halo]

ed2 normal

maels

[brisk surge]

With guard vg?

[smoky halo]

any squad works

but i just dont see the vision

enforcer needs relics to push

no tp

[brisk surge]

I thought ed2 was solved

[smoky halo]

yu cant tp

ed2 without boat yes

but ed2 with boat is 2x hp on theresis

[brisk surge]

Oh ed2 into 4

[smoky halo]

ye i alr did 2+3 maels

odda is so broken

odda cooks ed2

[brisk surge]

Yeah that sounds aids

[smoky halo]

no boat though

with boat i need to highroll dmg

[brisk surge]

Why not ed2a into 4

[smoky halo]

add a mael who can push theresis relicless

or tp him

no yu doesnt work he has self bind

zzzzzzz

[brisk surge]

Uhm

Do tell me when you want to do it

Like tell me in the morning or something

I'll keep my schedule open

[smoky halo]

🥹

i just play when im feeling like it

i dont plan stuff

[brisk surge]

Man

But you always stream when I'm sleeping

🥀

[smoky halo]

timezone diff

[brisk surge]

We are in the same timezone lil bro

[smoky halo]

proof?

[glass monolith]

There are less than 50 timezones (i hope, why the fuck xx:15 / xx:45 timezones are a thing? i get hour difference, but minute shift would fuck with anything between zones), so it is better odds that 6* that he is right

[brisk surge]

I know where fibs from

[smoky halo]

where

[brisk surge]

Cuz tourney website doxx him

Hk

[smoky halo]

wtf.....

bro 💔

how do u even know abt tourney website

[brisk surge]

Cuz I want to know how people draft in IS

[smoky halo]

damn ts is so ass

[brisk surge]

And you participated so I watch your run

[smoky halo]

wtf...

[brisk surge]

[glass monolith]

That awkward moment when person who watched you contact you

[full terrace]

Ah freakin maintenance ruining my auto

[brisk surge]

thank god I did my base

🙏

[brisk surge]

i am NOT a stalker

[glass monolith]

Incoming 10 minute maint fail so they roll back 2 hour then do 6h one

[brisk surge]

i will beat your head in

[elder flume]

are people having trouble with instakilling Witch King

im doing it just fine

[brisk surge]

wtfart is witch king

[elder flume]

ZT boss

[brisk surge]

i dont rember

when my acc was new i couldnt finish this event

thats for shore

[somber falcon]

you mean with logos bug? or proper instakilling?

[elder flume]

Logos

[somber falcon]

ah

[scarlet fulcrum]

E0 logos also works

[glass monolith]

Need to do it while it works. Some guy playing on CN said he couldn't make it work after event got added into side events, refused to elaborate on device HP and went to sleep

[scarlet fulcrum]

ball rdp really short, so yea have a lot time to try. not smooth sailing on first retreat trigger on my device

[elder flume]

what try

orb only stores max damage on first shot

sequential shots will do normal

[scarlet fulcrum]

E0 logos

For first trigger

[elder flume]

rip

can just sp battery him no

[scarlet fulcrum]

ah yea i have the batteries

probably i will just wait the boss instead

Oh bruh, i found the problem. There is mob in the way

[elder flume]

ye

i just mob clear before showing to make sure

[scarlet fulcrum]

[somber shuttle]

damn

i missed this event

[glass monolith]

Proceed to rush EX-8 to finish it quickly and get murdered by teleport

[somber shuttle]

figuring ts out was so fun

[south spindle]

Wait

That’s exactly what happened

When I tested it

From side story tab

[glass monolith]

Dude i don't care device has HP you can display. The end from me i don't care i did ex-8 with cheese. auto for -10 worked. Time to farm orirock

[brisk surge]

@south spindle you should stream your event clear

[south spindle]

Uh ya when I’m not prisoner anymore

[brisk surge]

always prisoner smh

[south spindle]

Probably later later going out to do jackshit now

[limber fox]

i got to d9 today

[viral edge]

What order should I build them in? Ulpianus first?

[wicked minnow]

ulpianus then executor and rosmontis. rosmontis is higher prio if you play IS a lot. other than those skadi the corrupting heart is a cozy pick and eyja if you lack casters/arts damage

[limber fox]

i wonder
why nobody seems to like flagbearers anymore

[wicked minnow]

idk i just dont really use flagbearers and cant think of many stages were i would want to

[cyan gorge]

Agents exist

[limber fox]

yeah but
if someone just dont have canta or ines, ive never seen anyone ever recommend myrtle or any other flagbearer for them

[cyan gorge]

Personally I think flags are dead weight most of the time outside the first 10 seconds

And without masteries they take a while to get going

[limber fox]

eh, sometimes i like to use them to help to survive early in the stage when theres something dangerous right from the start

but ig its just not good enough

[cyan gorge]

I think all vg types are viable but boils down to personal preference

[limber fox]

even the... the 1 block one that refunds when retreated

[timid nacelle]

chargers

bag isn't optimal

[cyan gorge]

Yes if they can consistently get kills

[timid nacelle]

but she gets the job done

bag s3 hits pretty hard

ig

[somber falcon]

wdym "help to survive"
flags do jack shit for combat

[timid nacelle]

so yeah with module she can do a lot

but that's a lot for the cause of dp gen

I already had p5 m6 bag tho

if I just got her now I won't build her

[cyan gorge]

Chargers are best paired with other vgs

[timid nacelle]

ye they ain't exactly great

ig fang alter has a good s2

but who else

plume sucks

[somber falcon]

pretty sure all chargers still do fairly well against mobs

well aside from plume ig but 3* so

[timid nacelle]

vigna can be useful since she deals more damage than the 5*s

[limber fox]

i use saileach for early healing or cc

[timid nacelle]

I use sail s1 most of the time

tho I have every single flag raised so it's so and so

[cyan gorge]

If I’m bringing Sail, it’s for s3 utility

[somber falcon]

if you already have someone to heal/do cc for then it's not that early

[timid nacelle]

I think my fav is ely simply because of sniper support

[somber falcon]

and most likely they're already doing fine before that

[timid nacelle]

ely just had a bunch of shit stacked on his s2
invis reveal def shred slow and dp gen

[somber falcon]

haven't really checked but pretty sure reed still does as well if not better
since she deals arts on skill instead of all in on phys like vigna

it's just the raising cost

[timid nacelle]

nah vigna deals more damage than reed

even both maxed

the extreme case where reed deals more damage is if u r fightin 2k def units with a charger vg

[cyan gorge]

Vigna just had the better talent

[timid nacelle]

at that point u r playin wrong by definition

reed also got the shitty module

[somber falcon]

right, vigna has crit talent like bag

[timid nacelle]

that makes her get more res or something

[somber falcon]

fair, forgor about that

[timid nacelle]

like

my girl is already resistant to arts

but we got her alter and she's broken so redeemed ig

not that any charger vg that isn't bag is redeemed mind u
even vigna gets her important base skill at e0 so raisin her is

[cyan gorge]

I’d recommend Vigna for a newer player but not beyond e1 max

[timid nacelle]

yeah she's a good unit because of the damage not because of the vg aspect sadly

[somber falcon]

Well all the better vg before flag is actually good because they can actually kill stuff anyway
Only exception is tex

[timid nacelle]

2020 was a long time ago ngl

siege was considered a good unit

because u could 3 op anni 2 with her SA and saria

[somber falcon]

Still fine option for mobs

[timid nacelle]

dude it's siege

[vestal light]

was doing zt-10 just now and the boss is supposed to teleport the last 2 units placed unless a unit has taunt right? for some reason he kept teleporting suzuran (3rd unit placed) instead of the bait I placed, is there a reason for this? completed it anyway mind, just confused If I'm missing or misunderstanding something
Sorry if this should be in help

[glass monolith]

What was bait? Also remember some shit can be untargetable from camo, invis, Clownslayer S3 etc. Or have opposite of taunt (less likely to be targeted) like ascalon etc

[timid nacelle]

did u drop them on time or last second

[torpid prawn]

Is there no way to tank these enemies?
Just did zt-6 with e1 max units, used e2 gummi as bait and e1 max lv7 e2 susuro as healer and it still 2 shot my ranged units no matter if it was during happy song (+ attack speed) or sad song (+ damage to friendly units) or even without music phase

[jovial nest]

does anyone have a cheat sheet for the song combos?

i really am not too fond of them to bother trying

[brisk surge]

song combos

as in for lessing?

#help message

[jovial nest]

for all

btw, since this now exists....is it now valuable to do all missions even if most of them are shop-currency-only?

although based on research, every shop from here on will have unlimited Kohl so I'm thinking if it's not worth getting the currency-only missions

[timid nacelle]

technically not a good idea no
but if u farm them now u can save up on buyin khol if u may ever need it in the future

tho u still need thoughts so normal farmin on zt-7/8 is more optimal

[jovial nest]

btw nice to see you again, Light

[timid nacelle]

oh hi

[jovial nest]

i guess life has eased up a bit and you can finally relax again

[timid nacelle]

yeah I can enjoy a break for the next 2-3 weeks before things heat up

wbu

[jovial nest]

pretty nice. work from home

[timid nacelle]

work from home is op

[jovial nest]

very

oh yeah, ZT rerun means Logos' S1 is bugged against the target summon

unless they fixed that

[lofty stag]

They didn’t

[jovial nest]

btw are the song gallery included in ZT perma or no?

I'm thinking if i should bother unlocking them all again

[full terrace]

Those Cellists are natural counter to Wisadel 😂

Reminds me of IS4's spiked chest a lot

[jovial nest]

only if you don't undo the song

if you do IS5 a lot, you'd know about that latter floor map that needs you to activate all 4 devices to undo the shields

[full terrace]

I know how the song works thank you very much

[jovial nest]

I've brought back Tex2 and Ya2 into my team to make this less annoying in case they put it far away

[vestal light]

used sussuro because I had brought a bunch of spare healers, and dropped I think between the boss' first and second teleport?

[astral cosmos]

fucking christ

i just realised

the autos for ZT are all the badknights Frostleaf tower ones

[brisk surge]

hi johnmixer

[astral cosmos]

watch as even ZT-2 fails

hi

[glass monolith]

You know it is teleport 2 targets (i assume), why you mention 1 bait?

[vestal light]

I had mlynar out (doing most of the damage)

[astral cosmos]

wild autos

[glass monolith]

odd if boss ignored mlynar

[vestal light]

no, he got mlynar
He got mlynar and suzuran rather than mlynar and sussuro

[astral cosmos]

tfw you don't remember if dagda was supposed to get hit in your original run

ok yeah she was supposed to nvm

[full terrace]

Seems like Logos S1 cant one shot Witch King in ZT-S-5 for whatever reason

Other stages it's perfectly doable

[jovial nest]

whats the condition again?

I wasn't able to do it in Zt-10

cause i know i have to do ZT-EX-8 CM

and i want it to be fun

[pearl breach]

Have you tried once in each phase?

Just curious if that makes any difference

[full terrace]

No, I tried his Phase 1 and it didnt work then gave up

Did it like 4 times to make sure

Tried clearing obstacles to make sure projectile lands on Witch King

Still didnt one shot

It worked until S-3 tho, for whatever reason

[pearl breach]

Hmm.. thats interesting.

[willow sun]

so they didn’t patch it for en release?

for the most part

[full terrace]

I think so

Arkrec doesnt have Logos cheese strat too

[jovial nest]

if that's the case I'll just play normally

[full terrace]

For S-5 I mean

[pearl breach]

This would be another bug that goes under the radar or maybe it is an intended feature, just like IS3 bug

*they fixed the IS3 bug by now. After like more than 1+ year

[full terrace]

Feels like I wanna make a Low-End Clear for ZT-S-5 now that we got Wisadel.

But if people dont struggle with it there is no point doing it so I'll wait and see first

[scarlet mortar]

by technicality it's not a bug

just an unintended interaction

[full terrace]

Is there an intended bug?

[scarlet mortar]

i mean i'd define bugs as more coding-related issues, as in doing things the code didn't tell the game to do

the execute shot is perfectly logical by code and is also reasonable to laymen, logos just tries to execute the portal bc it has no hp

[full terrace]

I wonder why it only fails to work on S-5 while other stages it works perfectly fine

[scarlet mortar]

if say it had 9 billion hp he would shrimply not execute the portal

[full terrace]

There is no way they shadow fix it for S-5 only, I must be doing something wrong

[south spindle]

@brisk surge ZT?

[brisk surge]

Yuh

[full terrace]

I take it back

This is a misinfo

It does work

On my 5th try

Sorry guys, I should have tested more

[scarlet mortar]

literally arflanyr

[full terrace]

😂

There you go

Watch me make Low-End S-5 Logos cheese 🤣

Oh I think I know what causes it now

What causes it to fail

[south spindle]

baby tries ZT without reading

[full terrace]

You got it no worries

Event is not that hard

[south spindle]

[full terrace]

You have been living without Wisadel, you are already better than most players

😏

[south spindle]

max wanted to watch me first try

uhm

yeah just don't talk about recent is incidents

i might have to read for TR-2

🥀

[brisk surge]

imagine reading

[still vessel]

[south spindle]

i didn't read

i guessed

worked

[brisk surge]

did you also guess rosmontis facing down

🚬

[still vessel]

so whats the bosses gimmick

[elder flume]

imagine Fremont but weaker

[still vessel]

so you dont want him close to any of your ops

[full terrace]

Rosmontis facing down 🤣🤣

[still vessel]

bruh this punishment of insipidity looks fucking horrible to fight against

[elder flume]

thats basically coffin

[still vessel]

ye and his S+ res

i cant just lappland him 😭

[elder flume]

you can just cheese it with Logos

[pure orchid]

😭

[still vessel]

logos cheese?

how that work

[elder flume]

.

[still vessel]

wtf

is that logos s1

[elder flume]

device stores damage done to be shot
Logos has more hp than device
Logos does max 1 shot damage 9999999
the shot is 9999999 damage

only works for the first damage tally to the device

so redeploying it will reset the trigger

very fun to use

[willow sun]

i just saw max and audibly said “i don’t remember sending that”

[pure orchid]

[still vessel]

might be the easiest boss mechanic wtf

[jovial nest]

well

we are given the strongest counter to a boss that keeps teleporting

that we don't even have to consider putting our ops too far to target it

it feels like a Craz (IS4 Ed3) fight except instead of invul timing and attack window, we just wait for the gun to teleport to the boss' alignment

[still vessel]

I didnt use logos btw

exu and lapp were enough

atk spd goes crazy

[pure orchid]

boss teleports?

poor guy is gonna get a taste of 100% uptime global arts

[still vessel]

S+ res

honestly tho

you get so much atk spd it doesnt even matter

[somber falcon]

surely the guy called "witch king" is weak to arts

:clueless;

[pure orchid]

i dont even know his name witch king lmao

this my first time play event

still at zt-5

[somber falcon]

non lore reader smh

[still vessel]

I dont read lore either ngl

[elder flume]

apparently i did this event until EX8

[pure orchid]

the stark contrast between our two global casters is uncanny

its like that 1 image with black and pink house next to each other

[still vessel]

I want GG ngl

running max aspd gg and lapp sounds fun

how often do we get the selectors?

fuck every 6 months is crazy ngl

[jovial nest]

i just went with Degen, Mly, Ray, Wis

WK hates physical

and so does redirected ones from those monsters

[tidal sedge]

any tip for beating zt7

[still vessel]

hold up

[pure orchid]

um

what are u having trouble with

[still vessel]

you got lapp?

[pure orchid]

i just zoomed through that stage

[still vessel]

she solves the whole stage

or GG

[tidal sedge]

[still vessel]

no?

[brisk surge]

when people say any tips

[steel prairie]

is Skadi S1 better or S3 better or its map dependent ???

[brisk surge]

dont assume they have 6 stars

[weak gazelle]

what zt7 look like again?
and perhaps show us your roster

[still vessel]

you want 2 snipers, 2 guards, a healer, and a caster for dps

[brisk surge]

you can probably search his images

he has probably sent it before

its not his first time here

im lazy yall got this

[still vessel]

first sniper behind the tuning node, then guard in front of bottom blue box

healer facing up then ranged guard in front of top blue box

second sniper facing up behind first sniper

[tidal sedge]

Is this good

[brisk surge]

the lack of ranged dps is worrying

[still vessel]

not really silverash and lapp can hold bottom blue box while ulpi can solo top blue box

[weak gazelle]

ohh that will easy with this roster

[still vessel]

if i had ulpi id just record the run myself

[weak gazelle]

rotate your sa and mlynar skill

thats it

[brisk surge]

you are the eqivalent of a ig player coming to db chat to give advice rn 🚬

[still vessel]

[tidal sedge]

hehe where i rotate

[tidal sedge]

if i build blue poison more will it help D:

[brisk surge]

id suggest building a caster

[weak gazelle]

uhmm if willing yo wait few min i will try to show it

eyja is the one hitting the tune thingy

[brisk surge]

bp isnt really a dps source

or rather marksmen snipers arent dpses for the most part

[tidal sedge]

do i take out sniper marksman

[tidal sedge]

i wait

[brisk surge]

you can replace kroos with someone else since you already have a e2 bp

i dont know what else you have built/on your roster

[tidal sedge]

i show after i try this tutorial stage again

[brisk surge]

good luck

[barren sluice]

where can I apply to join?

[pure orchid]

Just chat here and you're hired

[barren sluice]

im hired

[tidal sedge]

[fiery marsh]

If you find a way to do a decent openning im pretty sure you can mylnar it

[crystal meteor]

Just add more ops in the middle like saria, silverash and eyja then time the tuning device and it should be more than enough

Fang was facing down at the start, need someone to activate it

[tidal sedge]

i used his skill once he so strong but i need to upgrade skill

[brisk surge]

yeah his skill levels are important

i dont see much you can change from your main team

[still vessel]

as long as its sl7 youre fine

[brisk surge]

if you keep e1/2 ing those characters you should be good

stop leveling them when they are e2 60

silence e1 will be nice

and ulpianus e2 is really strong

[tidal sedge]

who i put to 90

[brisk surge]

you dont

basically 60-90 is mostly a waste of resources since it takes significantly more resources

with minimal gain in stats

the only people who do that are players that tryhard content like CC, IS or even do low ops

[tidal sedge]

ahh so its min maxing but like 1m lmd for 5%?

[brisk surge]

yeah basically

[tidal sedge]

ty for saving me from doing that haha

[weak gazelle]

sorry if being too long
deploy order blue poison>sa>ptilopsis>mlynar>lappy

[tidal sedge]

but i just got ulpi, thorns as well. do i rush both?

to e2

[still vessel]

just ulpi

thorns useless you already have good guards

[fiery marsh]

Ulpi and you are fine. And Try to focus on masteries, they are a big upgrade

[weak gazelle]

bp to kill early rush with s2
and dont forget to switch tune

[tidal sedge]

ty this looks so op

and dang i chose thorns last night. i could have gotten exu or mountain D:

[rapid junco]

Omg arkhy

[tidal sedge]

this looks illegal

ty arky

[weak gazelle]

idk and more or less like that
just make sure to time your bp, sa, and mlynar skill accordingly

no worry
i hope it works for you

[tidal sedge]

i report back in a few

[weak gazelle]

omg ia

[rapid junco]

[pure orchid]

ia?

[lofty stag]

Internal affairs

[pure orchid]

ia sure have a lot of affairs

[brisk surge]

ia say hi to me

[lofty stag]

Bye

[pure orchid]

PORTAL

[lofty stag]

[brisk surge]

i dont give a shit about this frenchie 🚬

[lofty stag]

Stfu 🥹

[pure orchid]

Uhhh croissant

nailied it

[lofty stag]

Nailied

[pure orchid]

hey why ex8 have hands

what this old man do

i just blasted him on zt10

[lofty stag]

That’s cuz you not using logos s1 🥱

[pure orchid]

I dont want

[still vessel]

ngl ex7 also has hands bro

massive rush at the end caught me unprepared

[brisk surge]

just wis

[still vessel]

no

[brisk surge]

so easy

[still vessel]

i want to use my brain

[brisk surge]

peabrain

[lofty stag]

Sometimes the brain calls for the big guns

[still vessel]

you use wis. your brain is nonexistant

[brisk surge]

you cant beat d1

[still vessel]

stfu

[lofty stag]

wtf

[still vessel]

im not even familiar with all the maps

[lofty stag]

L

[brisk surge]

thanks frenchie

[tidal sedge]

[brisk surge]

he woned

[tidal sedge]

[lofty stag]

He winned

[tidal sedge]

do i farm here or do something else

[brisk surge]

farm the next one i thinks

devices better

[pure orchid]

I won too

If anyone cars

[lofty stag]

Don’t care 🥱

[tidal sedge]

i want to be cool too

[lofty stag]

You leaked on vermin

[pure orchid]

This lack of affection will kill me

[pure orchid]

You're already cool

[tidal sedge]

[brisk surge]

cooler than this loser that leaked on vermin

[somber falcon]

I'd revoke your helping license if you lost with that team

[brisk surge]

🚮

[lofty stag]

wtf cheating on fredi

[pure orchid]

I actually lost on first try cus i wasnt paying attention

[lofty stag]

Strongest vermin leaker be like:

[weak gazelle]

they win

[smoky halo]

licesnce revoked

[pure orchid]

Trust me it was for king relic

[smoky halo]

false

[brisk surge]

we are so mean

[lofty stag]

Stfu that was NOT why

[pure orchid]

Yeah actually false 🥹

[smoky halo]

maxxers i will play later maybe

🚬

[lofty stag]

Fib come join IS streams

So you can see more vermin leak

[brisk surge]

when is later

[lofty stag]

And maybe safety inspection loss

[smoky halo]

i dont really enjoy watching full IS runs much

🥹

[lofty stag]

Who said anything about full

[smoky halo]

i like watching specific stage clears only that way i learn how to play ops

wat

from start to end is full run

[pure orchid]

what

[lofty stag]

We finna lose on safety inspection

[smoky halo]

unless ur just gonna streal 1 stage

if u lose on f1

thats still a full run

🗣️

[lofty stag]

Full run semantics

[brisk surge]

when is later fib

i want to fan gaau

[lofty stag]

Now

[smoky halo]

later

3-4 hours

🚬

[pure orchid]

ex8 cm first try?

[brisk surge]

stream it

[smoky halo]

i will play schlong only

surely i highroll

🚬

[brisk surge]

diu

you never highroll

you low roll and die to fremont

[smoky halo]

nop

[lofty stag]

Yep

[brisk surge]

bro you lost to the other guy by 1000 points

why no reroll on floor 3

[smoky halo]

its cos i didnt get ed3

:realmad:

[brisk surge]

[smoky halo]

and autopiloted picking ed1 over ed2

cos i was playing mael only for the first round

[brisk surge]

man

[smoky halo]

so i practiced ed1 + 3 only

then i forgot i was playing normally now and shouldve picked ed2

:joyplush:

i greeded like f4/f5 lnf too

[brisk surge]

playing normally ed3 should still be easy no?

[smoky halo]

but it never spawned

yes

[brisk surge]

what no gvg does to fib

[smoky halo]

i was at a disadvantage anyway

they banned rosmo

[brisk surge]

do you guys like

[smoky halo]

they got to pick first

😔

[lofty stag]

Fib maybe you need to leak vermin

[brisk surge]

ban for each other

or

[smoky halo]

yes

[lofty stag]

To reach enlightenment

[brisk surge]

ah

[smoky halo]

bro got first pick so i couldnt get rosmo

:realmad:

[brisk surge]

but shu ban is kinda tuff for ed 2 anyways

[smoky halo]

nah i have kal

theres no boats

its bing chilling

i just autopiloted skipping ed2 relic

:icant:

its fine i dont really like playing that tourney anymore

cos the timeslots are 6 hours long

[brisk surge]

my goat is washed

🥹

[smoky halo]

💀 mf i have shit to do i cant allocate 6 hours straight for this shit

they changed the rules last minute 💔

it was just supposed to be 3 hour segments

but they wanted it to be back to back so now its 6 hours zzzzzzzz

[elder flume]

shouldve done icebreaker tourney instead

[brisk surge]

i also watched bait's sgl

[smoky halo]

the timeslot was so ass that they were forced to make special exception for mine :pepela: i was able to run on 3 hr timeslot instead

[brisk surge]

sciel exploding on floor 1 was not on the bingo

[elder flume]

Stronghold tourney wouldve been fun

[pure orchid]

so true

[smoky halo]

2 weeks isnt enough time to practice and get good, AND host a tourney

🥹

[elder flume]

isnt that what Twitch Rivals stuff is tho

new game and the pop streamers enter with just 48 hours of experience

[smoky halo]

it depends on what youre aiming for

if its just entertainment its fine

but if u want to showcase high level gameplay its not

[brisk surge]

thats why twitch rivals is slop

[smoky halo]

twich rivals is more for entertainment

[brisk surge]

its like a mix of insane players and babies

[elder flume]

[rapid junco]

Auto chess tourney: ☠️

[smoky halo]

does tft have a competitive scene

[rapid junco]

It's will full of rng ragebaited

[smoky halo]

it can prolly work

but tft is also more fleshed out

[rapid junco]

Well they actually have a tourney

But why would you watch

[smoky halo]

to get better

[sly drift]

How's Lich king shuffle works again? The nearest?

[elder flume]

2 last

[smoky halo]

you can get better by watching better players play

👍

[brisk surge]

it does

its boring af tho

🥀

[smoky halo]

i can see that ya

its hard to attract nonplayers to that

u need to be into the tft scene already to be intrested

[brisk surge]

ye

[sly drift]

Imagine you watching actual Chess tourney

Prob sleeping the entire games

[smoky halo]

there are people who do that though

[brisk surge]

its literally the same thing

you have to fundamentally understand it to enjoy it

[rapid junco]

Actually, real chess match is a way better

[brisk surge]

you dont watch it like football where you go YEAAAAHHHHHH when pawn takes pawn

[elder flume]

en passant no way

[still vessel]

only time chess is fun is if its GothamChess videos

[tidal sedge]

do i do zt 9

[rapid junco]

Omg batman chess

[smoky halo]

its cos he tries to make it entertaining

[rapid junco]

Why you not doing it anyway

[brisk surge]

if you can afford to clear it you should

[elder flume]

you want to progress as much as you can to do all rewards

[brisk surge]

its free money

[elder flume]

then farm 7 8 9 depending on what you need

[rapid junco]

There's a ling solo guide🤫

[still vessel]

this event has less rewards?

[brisk surge]

ia say hi

[still vessel]

ive already cleared out shop and havent even finished ex stages

[elder flume]

its a rerun so ye

[still vessel]

oh bruh

[tidal sedge]

tbh i dont know what i need. should i just stock up on device it was a pain yesterday

[brisk surge]

yes

i recommended devices just now

🥀

[tidal sedge]

i suck at this game D:

[tidal sedge]

i wasnt ignoring u i just bad at reading

[elder flume]

im prob going for more oriron overall since device is somewhat near

tho if what youre E2ing needs lots of device then go ahead

[still vessel]

i need a shit ton of devices

and grindstones

and manganese

so the next events are perfect

[rapid junco]

Farm device now so you can get more alloy

[elder flume]

ew alloy

most of my ops are 2k22 and they dont benefit from it yet lmao

[rapid junco]

That shit used for new ops

[elder flume]

i still have like 155 alloy or something

[rapid junco]

Fak alloy with that blue gel

[pure orchid]

wtf why 2 oriron

[elder flume]

your subconscious prefers oriron

[pure orchid]

i have way too much alloy

[elder flume]

I havent calced what i need

I keep having 0 of both tho