strategy

[pearl breach]

horn + melee does make sense

[full terrace]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1sPBvYrEuv/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[elder flume]

Eyja S3 is essential

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yea they make other stuffs as record instead

[elder flume]

Same author of 99 rounds AH File

[pearl breach]

This is a very nice video

[full terrace]

We can thank Rain for sharing it

[pearl breach]

I guess they take the +2.5% atk per elite kill too, right?

[pure orchid]

Thank you rain

[pearl breach]

Thank you rain

[valid kindle]

will atk buff applies when there's 2 same character with highest atk?

[pearl breach]

What's the equipment on eyja? Aside from stun grenade. Dirk?

[willow sun]

why stun on eyja?

and i usually just don’t draft eyja, s3 cycle kinda stinks

s2 though uhh

engineer’s hammer is good

and then just…. strong tea?

[pure orchid]

this will be absolute cinema

[scarlet fulcrum]

Walmart FN die from timer kinda funny

[elder flume]

Eyja should be stun + res ignore

Otherwise claw ig

[pearl breach]

Alright, I'll try to test eyja first on random run

[muted egret]

зачем

[elder flume]

Do u have time tho lol

Noob is trying it too

3 days left

Ashlock defender set sp stacking

[potent ingot]

Sarkaz is beating me up, any tips? I’m using Dober. Got Wealth and Haste at 6 and 10 respectively, sadly didn’t get merging for T2-3 with 2 ops
@ me please, going to sleep

[elder flume]

Yikes R15

Dormant Heir on Hoshi

Unless thats S2 Hoshi

If S3 put on her

If not put on whoever will be on ori tile or if bottom Chalter stays there then her

Bottom Chalter switch with Lapp

Buy Lapp Perfumer
Sell Kjera
Upgrade barge
If you die this round you cant lose

[stray dune]

Im using blueprint squad but i usually use tactical ones.
With blueprint squad, what the best starting operators?

[opaque stirrup]

wis if u can afford her

and bean/ 4* specialist

[stray dune]

What about guard?

[opaque stirrup]

otherwise if u didn't get the hope buff for starting probably 3 4* start on caster defender sniper start
click pinecone and gummy

guard start ?

dk don't usually do that

[stray dune]

Ohh okay
Gonna pick W next time

[opaque stirrup]

oh wait

this isn't d15 right

just pick wis beanstalk+ tin man once u get him

[elder flume]

@potent ingot forgot to ping

Sure hope theres someone with Hardtack or Strong Tea on the dps

[valid kindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDaBgTK6IAE&ab_channel=pardis this strat too much of a luck?

[stable jacinth]

Either I'm very Unlucky or I am super Ass... The RNG is just stupid hell

[smoky blaze]

Ulpi behind a healer. Specter chillin on top.
I wont blame the RNG lol

[stable jacinth]

I guess I'm just Ass then

[smoky blaze]

[stable jacinth]

She got redeployed and I thought Ulpi will charge with his S3, apparently I learn Ulpi S3 in this mode the Hard way

[pure orchid]

This was a relatively lucky run, with +1 special refresh, La Pluma, defenders, dupes, easy enemies, and ascalon on first refresh

I wouldn’t say it’s consistent, in fact I don’t think the way pard played was most optimal for hool

[stable jacinth]

Specter Above to stall but Yeah not holding long enough

I'm desperate now to get the Win 15 medal

[pure orchid]

#strategy message like pard couldve gotten 6-stars on round 6 (freeze and buy at round 7) for more chances at ascalon

wtf he couldve put hardtack on ulpi by round 9 but didnt

[pure orchid]

nymph and virt are kinda ass since we have hp bloat
nymph fear get wasted on trash too

[stable jacinth]

Any recommendations for the 5th Tier ?

[pure orchid]

what options do u have

personally i run ifrit ascalon

[stable jacinth]

Many

Ascalon is the one I don't have

Ifrit I have

[pure orchid]

ifrits good for caster core

lots of lanes for her to burn too

[stable jacinth]

1 more

[pure orchid]

can you just show your roster to give me an easier timie

im not exactly a mind reader

[stable jacinth]

That should do

[pure orchid]

lappalt works

caster core

some people use ray but idk how that works, never tried myself

[stable jacinth]

Ok

Which skill for Ifrit ?

Both are good

Kinda confused

[pure orchid]

I use s2

[next wigeon]

S2 for me too

[pure orchid]

s3 kills her and got some off time

That means drafting medic, which is lmao

[stoic sapphire]

Is Ulpianus the only support op you can take for the replacement for Sharp?

[next wigeon]

Ya

[stoic sapphire]

Ty

[next wigeon]

The Temp Stuff is only there because you don't have the original op

The Squad is predetermined other than 4 Free Slots

2 for T5 and 2 for T6

[stoic sapphire]

Any recommendations on the V and VI ops to take from your own roster? Been running thorns, medic eyja, walter and shu

Got p much everyone, minus.. Ascalon, Typhon, Mizuki, Blemi and Carnelian

[next wigeon]

Wis'adel and Logos for T5

For easier time to get them

If you care for the extra levels, module level and mastery level then T6

T6 you can choose whatever

[stoic sapphire]

Don't got ascalon on my end, so I'll put wis'adel for now, any other you'd recc?

[desert prairie]

lack of AoE

why is ulpipi at the back

why is gladiia in front

if mlynar die, which he will, caster will kill gladiia. meaning ulpipi will die, then everyone dies

[sly drift]

If you can only take one defender for ur squad. Would you take Shu or Yu?

[narrow pendant]

Shu since shes better at being what she is

Yu is more of a laneholder defender

[elder flume]

https://x.com/rei_3525/status/1924263551797240088?t=KenbgwfAIluRqzY-7ZdukQ&s=19

れいげつ (@rei_3525) on X

何回やり直したかわからないけど遂にできた🎉🎉🎉
上限20人のウィシャデル艦隊💣💣💣
多分これが一番多いと思います
#アークナイツ

X · May 19, 2025, 12:39 AM

[wintry hinge]

is that good to beat core protocol?

[elder flume]

before i look at anything else
put mod on ur ops

Pluma S1
Meteorite S1
Ashlock S2
Saria S1 or S3 mod y
change Raidian

ngl im leaning towards Podenco S1

S2 almost does shit unless early Kjerag

E1 ten Podenco bleugh

[crisp bolt]

I will shill podenco s2

[limber fox]

What does "shilling" means

[elder flume]

Silence i prefer S1 cuz drone keeps taking spots i want

Andreana S2

[crisp bolt]

Honestly I find podenco s2 pretty good in this, though only really if you have ops that group up enemies

[elder flume]

shill is basically promoting

i shill Weedy to people because she is good

[crisp bolt]

And it's like one of my 3 only damage sources for barge level 1

[elder flume]

and i want people to see her good side

[limber fox]

Teach me her good side

I have Pot2 weedy since my first week into this game

And ive only used her in 1 level ever since i e2 her

[crisp bolt]

I just got weedy s2m3

Wanted to do some IS tech with her

[limber fox]

I wait then

[dark mantle]

Waiting for your weedy sentinel right side video

[proud bluff]

I mean weedy is good
She may not be "needed" in gen content, but she's a good operator, and shift mechanic is better than just "push enemy in square hole"

[elder flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwNbNcfIqDs

i dont have Weedy focused vids cuz i just got her after i came back

[proud bluff]

It's just that nowadays when do we even need to shift an enemy from a lane pathing to another, or atk cancel with it etc

[elder flume]

and i avoid doing non auto vids

[crisp bolt]

I'll do it I'll just have to somehow stop trolling around in my IS runs

I'm so out of practice with IS I'm losing to low D is5

[elder flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SQJkxPBvrY

not Weedy but shifting in general

[scarlet fulcrum]

The beauty of shifts on auto

[elder flume]

if i show non auto theyre like 15+ mins long

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah more clicks on manual

[elder flume]

its been so long since i used pusher s1 since most enemies i stall are weight 5 or attacks too fast

[pure orchid]

hardtack + hammer on ulpi is lmao

tbf hammer works on anyone with afk skills

but ulpi base stats will go crazy

[smoky blaze]

Ulpi s1 + hammer :clueless:

[pure orchid]

who tf is using ulpi s1 zzz

[elder flume]

yours truly

[pure orchid]

Rain PLEASE

im having too much fun with SP

i really hope they make it permanent

[elder flume]

they will balance for next season

Logos Whislash will be removed

[pure orchid]

rip

[smoky blaze]

Hardtack is broken. Almost instant S3 with 1 hardtack alone.

[scarlet fulcrum]

As long as the rewards same (or even better) whynot

[pure orchid]

Hardtack is like

SP relic in IS all over again

i feel like battlefield analyzer might be broken on

frd

free 120% atk on yato

[elder flume]

wouldnt M3 be better

[pure orchid]

idk if enemy stat will dwarf that tho

who m3

spine girl?

[elder flume]

M3 the item set

access to true damage

[pure orchid]

tbf that ones pretty rare

analyzer is just t2

and not a lot of ops can reach the cap easily, unless you have that equipment with reduced rdp

or you're fucking ulpianus with hardtack

just realize they make soras shitty talent into equipment

[elder flume]

2x upgraded T4 Strong Tea Ulpi

its pretty good

used it a lot

1 in 4 for insta cast

[pure orchid]

it is good

[sly drift]

Bruh.. if you think about it. It's crazy how today specialists have almost everything you need to build a complete decent squad.

Need laneholder? Gladia, Spectre
Art burst? Texas
Sniper? Ela, Exu
Healer? Thorns, Tin man
Good crowd control? Ascalon, Ethan
Buffer? Aak

[elder flume]

not putting Rope and Feater in laneholding is wild

[sly drift]

You can. It just that they aren't even close to AH survivability

[elder flume]

if you roll the dice they will

and CS exists

revolutionary S2

[upper vapor]

hey guys, i need help clearing 6-5. The enemy on the top lane keep decimating my defenders

[elder flume]

show ops

[sly drift]

Today isn't CC beta where you have to get 30% dodge more than nine times to win the stage
Stupidest shit I have ever did

[upper vapor]

my current squad

and i can borrow a wisadel but still she can only kill the enemy from one side

[glass monolith]

Defender check the map

[sly drift]

Actually just put Lin on center top and sleep

[glass monolith]

Helagood "need to fail Dodge 3 times or not enough dps, then Dodge or death"

[sly drift]

Yea

[next wigeon]

[upper vapor]

what is defender check

[glass monolith]

Well to win you need to alive until 100500 spears in your direction aren't

[full terrace]

This is so you #off-topic message

[elder flume]

i forgor does Logos get targeted first

[sly drift]

Do you want a help or a solution?

[full terrace]

Ye Logos dead.
Actually no, Lappland dead first

[upper vapor]

yes thats so annoying

[crisp bolt]

[somber falcon]

No, saria does

Unless he's there first for a bit

[upper vapor]

but i have to put the defender later right

so they will be targeted

[elder flume]

ye

[full terrace]

Actually just

Borrow a Ling

[elder flume]

Ptilo can even face left tbh
Cuora skill when theres elite

[upper vapor]

can you perhaps tell me the order of deploymenr

[somber falcon]

In this case saria still gets targeted bcs she's closer

And throwers stop when they attack

[crisp bolt]

there's the meme about how penance just solos this stage

but yeah the entire strategy of the stage is deploy defenders last so they tank the throwers

and yeah they do stop when they start attacking

[elder flume]

Ely > does Texas get skill in time > Lapp > Saria > Lumen > Thorns > wait for thrower to die > Logos > Lapp2 > Ptilo > Cuora

[upper vapor]

the problem is the bonethrowers will leak if i dont put a defender fast enough

[upper vapor]

thank you so much

[full terrace]

Borrow a Ling and do this #strategy message

[somber falcon]

Literally saria first there
Throwers won't target logos bcs they stop before he's in their range

[crisp bolt]

I forgot but I did have that pain. I tried doing a lin solo for the stage and got stuck in a semi-permastall because the throwers were right outside lin's range

[sly drift]

This is 2020 stage in 2025 dawg. Why are we struggling

[upper vapor]

i will try this too

[crisp bolt]

that'd be way easier

[upper vapor]

sorry im kind of bad at this game

[elder flume]

lots of strategies to be found

[crisp bolt]

this stage is pretty infamous for tripping up newbies

along with a couple other stages

skullshatterer

[elder flume]

TR14 moment

[crisp bolt]

I can't even remember why people have issues with tr14

[somber falcon]

Redeployment

[crisp bolt]

that's tr-15

I think?

[elder flume]

prob

my brain is always hazy

[crisp bolt]

tr-14 is the shaw crab one

[somber falcon]

[pure orchid]

I DIDNT MEAN IT LIKE THAT

whatever time for me to claim my exalter

we love weekly reset

[full terrace]

Aw dont be shy, we all know you mean it like that

[pure orchid]

Nope

Im clean

[full terrace]

#strategy message 😏

[pure orchid]

Fuck ive been caught

Wtf tho ulpi of all people? 🤢

smell like fish in here

[urban remnant]

sorry which strategies should i choose for this strat aside from "Special Treatment"?

[pure orchid]

any other good strat

its just Special Treatment that has a special interaction

[urban remnant]

ah i see

[brisk surge]

Is stream

Thoughts

[pure orchid]

Im bad tho

[next wigeon]

You tell me, since you are the one assaulted him with that Hardtack while he's mindin his own business smh

[pure orchid]

i could stream SP tho

might be boring tho

[full terrace]

No thank you, that gamemode is so lame

Stream IS I wanna push you to Elusive Merc hellhole

[pure orchid]

gimme exec alt first

[next wigeon]

Qyurii streaming that misty corn ya

[next wigeon]

Go get him yourself smh

But in all honesty, I fall asleep to yer IS sessions smh

[pure orchid]

sry abt that...

[next wigeon]

Qyurii has a talent for ASMR

[pure orchid]

Not what i was going for but ill take that as a compliment

[willow sun]

ill stream SP too 🥹

i havent slept in like 30 hours

might be the worst sp youve ever seen

[brisk surge]

I don't want to watch sp

[willow sun]

ok SSS it is

[brisk surge]

No IS no watch

[willow sun]

IS got boring 💢

[brisk surge]

Do relicless

[willow sun]

i think i'm not nerd enough

go ask fib to stream relicless

also i dont have crucial ops for relicless

[brisk surge]

So noob

[willow sun]

nop do it yourslef then

[brisk surge]

@smoky halo

Fib dalao stream is good

[willow sun]

until he leaks and dies

[brisk surge]

Okay why don't you do izumik then

[proper belfry]

hi, may i know what skill should i use for Logos and Ulpianus for this core strategy? is it both s3?

[brisk surge]

Logos s3 people like ulpianus s2

S3 on ulpianus is inconsistent because he only uses it when the enemy is one tile away

Theacc come answer this question

💢

[willow sun]

i used ulpianus s3 for my clears since his s2 is stronger but requires more equipment rng

logos is s3

wisadel is s3

[willow sun]

because is3 stinks 🥱

[small anchor]

Hey guys does the stalling strat still work for 7-18

[brisk surge]

Soooo noob

[willow sun]

i'll listen to you when you can set up your base on your own!!!!!

[brisk surge]

🥹

But but

Izumik

You should go to bed

Or else you're gonna sleep in vc again

[willow sun]

i'm not in vc though....

[brisk surge]

Well I don't have wifi rn anyways

Can't do shit

[willow sun]

also im busy dying to perspective rn

i fixed the legs looking weird

but that means i actually have to draw guidelines for like

literally everything

so it makes sense

how do you do this shit 🥹

[brisk surge]

🚬

[proper belfry]

Thnx!

[rich plover]

Need tips for the Icefield Militants

Those black coat guys are kinda annoying

[rich plover]

S3 is shorter, albeit riskier

[scarlet mortar]

the one where you stall out the phase 2 mobs? sure, it's here to stay

not like 7-18 is the only stage where you can do it

[wintry hinge]

To Radian forces mw to rent Chalter but no one has Chalter

[elder flume]

Then find one

#friend-id

[wintry hinge]

idk if stick with Kaltsit squad or try some other

[full terrace]

Do that #strategy message

[pure orchid]

Or this #strategy message

[willow sun]

dedicate a ranged op (usually aoe) to take care of the spiders early on, then chip away at the elites with melee ops with ranged dps as backup (aoe or st)

medics are helpful, so is CC since they're dangerous close up but relatively squishy and slow

[small anchor]

Oh alright, its just that I tried doing it for phase 2 and reinforcements spawned anyway

[scarlet mortar]

you need to kill pat before the 18(?)th enemy spawns

[small anchor]

oh, thanks

[umbral jewel]

Can someone help me figure how to counter the spider radius reaching all the way down to the bottom lane, because even when spawn killing them their explosion freeze and kill the rangers on the bottom

And incase you didn't read, I said the spider explosions, not the Walmart frostnova

[elder flume]

Lapp

Spider isnt killing bottom

Its this guy

And this guy ig

[umbral jewel]

They were dead before that guy appeared, I know what I'm talking about dude

The way everyone says is just spawn kill spiders but something about their radius isn't making sense to reach as far as they do

[elder flume]

After death, it causes physical splash damage equal to 200% of the attack power to allied units within a radius of 1.65, and applies coldness for 10 seconds

It shouldnt reach from there

[dusky grove]

Is the event made to roast the 'ak is too easy' folks

(such as myself)

Core diff is really overtuned

If only they didn't add a medal for it

[umbral jewel]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking.
I think one of the attackers Buffs are inadvertently buffing their radius when it shouldnt

[willow sun]

spiders might have increased splash radius in this gamemode

they can reach across lanes

[elder flume]

Its not spiders

[willow sun]

did they not say it was?

[elder flume]

Its the dead explode guy

[willow sun]

both spiders and the elite enemies with arts dmg on death have a radius of at least 1.5 tiles

its enough to reach across lanes

as for why its so high idk

just a stronghold protocol thing

[elder flume]

Oh they both have 1.65

Weirdge

It goes back to Lapp silencing them again ig

[willow sun]

yeah you can lapp silence or just spam ranged ops

[willow sun]

wis/logos should've been where silence/typhon were

[sly thorn]

core protocol is indeed pain if the enemy is icefield militants

[willow sun]

icefield isn't that bad if you reposition everytime you fight them

but its annoying

[sly thorn]

also sarkaz whipper, I don't know how the heck they're so tanky

[smoky halo]

they heal everytime something near them dies

[low rover]

Hi guys, Im doing a run where I can only use welfare and cert ops. My current roster below, and Im at 4-7 in the main story. Which next welfare should I get?

[smoky halo]

@wicked minnow

[wicked minnow]

hiiiiiii

[smoky halo]

go nerd out

gogogo

[wicked minnow]

just give me a moment i'd need to go through this cuz he has most of the easy recommendations

[wicked minnow]

oh go grab yourself astgenne

pudding might be good enough already tho depending on how you play with her

[low rover]

well she's the slower giviny my units time to kill them

[wicked minnow]

for welfareknights atleast, my main sources of aoe damage come from astgenne + tin man

i would recommend tin man as well but that would involve playing is5

[full terrace]

Povertyknights talk 😂

[wicked minnow]

astgenne i think is your only remaining "good" welfare that's easily available

lessing is coming up in a couple of days btw

[wicked minnow]

[full terrace]

Astgene is good tho, I felt her powa in Stronghold Protocol

[low rover]

im curious, what about units like silence alter, kjera, and minimalist?

[full terrace]

Ah Kjera sucks.

[wicked minnow]

silence alter is really good for survivability. one of my more liked operators. kjera is ehhhhh dont use her much same with minimalist

[full terrace]

She is usable only because of her archetype

[somber falcon]

Silence is fine but doesn't really have much use outside invul on demand, kjera relies too heavily on proccing freeze, minimalist is ok but has minimal numbers

[wicked minnow]

if you are doing niche gaming, you dont really use her s3 all that much

i find way more use from s2

just bringing her around more you'll end up using s2 more

[somber falcon]

[maiden hound]

aoe... arts... welfare... i know a guy

[opaque stirrup]

actually was interested in bad knights for a while

what counts as a bad unit ?

[wicked minnow]

notable welfares in terms of priority:
astgenne, lessing, tinman (comparatively good units compared to the rest)
silence alter (good survivability boost to allies in range and she herself is very tanky + panic button)
underflow (good for IS basically)
------------------ below is just nice to have since nicheknights but not needed
coldshot (high single target physical damage, i'd unironically pick totter or pinecone over her but different niche )
bison if you are still missing a brick this is only really handy in like 2/3 stages but is otherwise just nice to have

[low rover]

is there a unit that can deal with the exploding spiders?

[maiden hound]

silence? no we don't have that status in the Homeless Shelter (TM) iirc

[wicked minnow]

there's 1 welfare that silences those guys in particular but i dont really use her all that much

snowsant btw

[maiden hound]

only works on infected creatures

ah well

[wicked minnow]

exploding spiders

[maiden hound]

fits the bill

[wicked minnow]

ye

[maiden hound]

what about conviction s2

[wicked minnow]

we dont talk about conviction

do you know about the conviction getting gobbled up by wither devourer tech?

[somber shuttle]

so true

[maiden hound]

huh

vore ass tech

[somber falcon]

The selector ops are now welfares by technicality, so just put lapp in

[maiden hound]

proviso s2

[wicked minnow]

conviction is blockable for a moment after deployment before they get stunned. the devourer can start their eating animation within that time. since the devourer still eats units as long as they are in range even if no longer blocker, he can still eat conviction within that time

[somber falcon]

She's not in selector

[maiden hound]

with the ca$h she generating I'm the one living off her welfares

[summer meteor]

vro

[neat fossil]

guys what is the most consistent way to get kazimierz to work in stronghold

i even own flametail but it srems so weak and inconsistent

[somber shuttle]

you get more kazi

try to at least get 6

dont need to promote

if i only i can ping a certain blue name since they had played around kazi abit

[pure orchid]

just ping, theyre nice

[elder flume]

Only Kazi i shill is Gravel

Perma Gravel tech

[neat fossil]

is nearl s2 or s3 better for kaz

pretty sure its s3 after losing a lot with s2 🫠

[pure orchid]

s3 is good

just stall long enough for it to actually activate

[elder flume]

S2 would need Kazi Model and Portable Launcher and even then the damage isnt that high iirc

[somber shuttle]

i feel like i shouldnt

but yeah

[pure orchid]

who is it

[somber shuttle]

satori

or i could ping leonidas but he isnt in tis server anymore

[pure orchid]

@viscid mist can you offer your expertise on kazi build

done

[somber shuttle]

[neat fossil]

kazi is objectively underpowered but if the mode comes back (it should) hopefully itll be decent 👉👈

[pure orchid]

i just want a rhine lab faction smh

[maiden hound]

can anyone link the hool strat copypasta

[wicked minnow]

#strategy message

[viscid mist]

I believe the best way to use kazi is spam ntrk s2 + gravel
the rest is a bunch of passengers
using 6 kazi + 3 ah is probably optimal, with ulpian kazi hand
mlynar would synergize with kazi if he had module but right now he's just a passenger slot
ashlock can probably be used as meat shields, but preferably you would want to have 3 gravel 2 ntrk 1 ulpian and the rest be andreannas or some dps unit
i believe the most optimal defenders is either using hool rush strat or something with high hp like kaltsit

meteor is only useful for sniper buff hand food

using vanguards like flametail for dp might be useful too but i don't think you will get out of dp unless it's a very extreme fight

[maiden hound]

thanks poverty man

[viscid mist]

at least this setup won't be that dependant on kazi level 2 hand

[elder flume]

Wish i can dupe Kazi Model

[pure orchid]

thanks sator

[somber shuttle]

what copypasta

hool strat is p simple tho 🚬

rush lv4 Barge, gamba the 1st commander upgrade, and gamba for V ops

yeah its all gamba

[candid gale]

Does >2 saria s3 with sp gain when being attacked is a strat

[elder flume]

Youre free to do it

She can be countered by slugs and freeze tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

U don't really need specific strat for this so yea if it works thats fine

[candid gale]

I thought she'll deal minor dmg

And gain sp by being attacked

And stall

Actually i'm afraid of purple golem/mudrock/stun sniper

[elder flume]

1. Sp lockout
2. Damage to heal
3. 200 hps is kina low when enemies do 3k

[candid gale]

So tanky equipments are needed

With da specific one for def

[crisp bolt]

don't know why I tried this again but this run got really close

fight rng diff

[brisk surge]

keep going

💢

[crisp bolt]

game wanted to give me t5 ops again

[brisk surge]

2 days remaining means you are spending the next 2 days in stronghold dungeon

[crisp bolt]

[opaque stirrup]

what is this

low rarity only ?

[crisp bolt]

no leveling run

[brisk surge]

does he knows

[opaque stirrup]

wtf

[crisp bolt]

this run here proves it's possible since I was capable of beating both enemies round 10+

and it's possible to just get fight RNG to kill an enemy round 10

[opaque stirrup]

hmmm

gl

[brisk surge]

i love watching broom stronghold

its reroll maxing

peak gambling

[crisp bolt]

I am gambling for the god run

[elder flume]

More rng than Logos infinite fr

[potent ingot]

Yup, Sarkaz keep destroying me with their shaman that boost what seems like move speed, attack speed and damage of anyone, and I can never seem to kill those big white guys that are super tanky

[scarlet fulcrum]

Heralds?

oh shaman

Its not really tanky, just chunk of hp

[full terrace]

Reason why Asca is powerful 😂

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah also drafted asca as main

Aspd+freeze kinda cooking

[pure orchid]

asca on T5 being casually as functional as being T6

[scarlet fulcrum]

Base t5 more than enough, its sL4 iirc

[full terrace]

She is probably my most liked unit in the game. I use Wis because I need her not because I like her, so is Logos (for Arts)

I use Asca because I like her

[pure orchid]

Needing wis kinda stinky

[spice prairie]

After knowing I could change units, skills and grinded strongholds event for a day. It was pretty easy so long as you have Walter...

The best strategy to get is pro gamer to me, free units or fund every once in a while. The infinity fund strategy is just a waste of time to reset when you can clear in one sitting.

[full terrace]

Try playing high diff IS without one

[pure orchid]

Wait i thought were talking sp

what

[full terrace]

I never said SP

[pure orchid]

i may or may not have played too much sp

[scarlet fulcrum]

ppl caring too much about new toy

[pure orchid]

i just like auto chess

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its easier than auto chess

[pure orchid]

i played something similar a few years ago

it was fun

this is like almost the same thing

[full terrace]

I didnt even know what autochess was until someone mentioned it here

[pure orchid]

but now in my favorite arknights flavor

[full terrace]

I'm too old

[wicked minnow]

someone said that scene is able to or close to being able to kill the flying guys so that was a lie. maybe at lower difficulties ig

scene facing left here

[crisp bolt]

I said she can get pretty close to but still leaks

[wicked minnow]

i dont like leaking

[scarlet fulcrum]

Difference in numbers of fights maybe. Tbh i never draft scene on is3 💤

[crisp bolt]

she was one of my favorite schizo drafts in is3

scene + rathalos noir start

[wicked minnow]

she's the only starter i can use effectively since 5* cost 4 hope god knows why

just testing this start out with scene highmore. 6 hope i run scene solo. 8 hope i'd usually run krooster underflow

[full terrace]

Why not use Steward

[scarlet fulcrum]

welfare

[crisp bolt]

welfareknights stupid logic :realmad:

[full terrace]

Sticking to welfare start as well? Thats brutal

[wicked minnow]

im doing strictly welfare. i know that people like SG do start with like spot and the such but i havent had major issues yet so im rolling with it

[full terrace]

"stupid logic" 😂😂

[crisp bolt]

krooster + spot duos all f1 stages

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is this 2 and 4 route?

Or just highmorb shilling

[wicked minnow]

wdym 2 and 4 route?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Knights and izumik

[versed arrow]

Anyone know a good team to use to unlock the kazi squad in stronghold? the one that requires you to have 4 kazi in squad at clear

[crisp bolt]

4 mlynars

[full terrace]

Play Foundation it's easy to unlock those squads with it

[wicked minnow]

oh you mean like why im choosing highmorb?

[full terrace]

Then just buy whatever kazi units you see

[crisp bolt]

I can't even remember who else is kazi outside mlynar and meteor

[scarlet fulcrum]

Mlynar and nearl most of it. Meteor for equip tool

[crisp bolt]

oh yeah ntrk

[wicked minnow]

she makes some stages easier depending. i could've gone any other guard as well i dont really have a reason to pick her specifically

[versed arrow]

nearl as in the alter right? which skill tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

Gravel(s)also nice for spam on fields

[full terrace]

Mlynar, Guardnearl, Meteor, Gravel

[crisp bolt]

s2 takes deploy slot

[full terrace]

Ashlock

[scarlet fulcrum]

S2 s3 either fine

[potent ingot]

Sadly it's S2 Hoshi, when I saw Dormant Heir I was like "Damn I should've put S3 Hoshi" lol
Why buy Perfumer and upgrade barge? I was thinking of getting Lapp Hibiscus since I only need 2 T1's to get a T5+1 free op, and keeping barge at 5 since it costs a lot... although at 6 it doesn't cost much anymore.

[crisp bolt]

I got hit with the bug

thought it was a shu bug but turns out it isn't

bro got splitboxed off the map and respawned in bottom right

[potent ingot]

If putting Ascalon in Stronghold Protocol, what skill should I put?

[full terrace]

S2

[elder flume]

Ye unreachable state

[shell arch]

Weird question but what's the hardest enemy + map combination?

For SP core

Kjera + pathfinder + ranged tile map?

Kjera + path + vent map?

[bold lance]

Sarkaz with whip guys + kjerag on ranged map

Actually, scratch kjerag, pathfinder will probably be worse

[little ravine]

are you guys typically completing core protocol in 12 rounds ?

[shell arch]

Personally 12-16 rounds

[shell arch]

Which ones are the whip guys?

[bold lance]

The guys with a whip. From ch13, iirc?

[shell arch]

The one that recovers hp when enemies or allies die?

[bold lance]

Yeah, that one

[shell arch]

I thought they were easy

[bold lance]

I have never found a combination that kills them without timing out

[shell arch]

Personally I believe in rarity abusing so chalter walter work wonder

[bold lance]

Yeah, I have standards.

[versed arrow]

atkspd + frost

[bold lance]

It's also the early rounds where not dealing enough chip damage to them means you have to deal with giga buffed mudrock thanks to the special sarkaz enemy

Also I am a caster strat believer so fuck Sarkaz in particular.

[shell arch]

Fuck mudrock in particular

[versed arrow]

I never got mudrock to work in the gamemode she just get swarmed and died

[bold lance]

I've meant the boss mudrock

[crisp bolt]

honestly I welcome getting sarkaz enemies (except the pillar guys) because they're on the easier end of enemies to go up against

[versed arrow]

I finally unlocked it, turns out, this was the correct answer surprisingly. AH + mlynars with 1 mlynar with AH item

[lofty pivot]

I am massively struggling with core protocol and can't seem to win with any combination of units. I must be doing something drastically wrong.. anyone got tips?

[smoky blaze]

• prioritize the barrage lvl
• losing early for greed barrage lvl is good
• dont invest too much on t3 and below. their function is mainly to help you survive R4-R6.
• You want your squad consist of t5-t6 by the time you enter R9+
• defender sugs.. melee sugs (except for kaze early, and mylnar ulpi late game)
• item: accelerator good, t3 arts role model is good (if you want to rush t6 ops).

That's in a general gameplay.

[valid kindle]

1 or 3?

i pikced elite sniper

[remote perch]

3

Deployment Limit is honestly the best Upgrade

[full terrace]

It's Round 6 so pick 3, Deployment Limit for breach value. Gemini if you struggle with dps

[full terrace]

Here #strategy message

[winter axle]

What the hell is this stronghold protocol gamemode, had a map where the ENTIRE middle lane was undeployable by melee ops, and range sarkaz whips started rendering all my range ops useless on the range tiles

Wtf is this unfair bs

[valid kindle]

didn't expect peacemaker hits rly hard in round 8 blyat

[winter axle]

Worst gamemode ever, would never again

[cedar hound]

👍

[steel prairie]

Whats the best way to grind Orundum ??? Just do annihilation?

[maiden hound]

correct

[glass monolith]

And not forgetting to claim daily/weekly missions, 1200 weekly from them

[valid kindle]

blyat

pillar guy buffed is scary as fuck

[still vessel]

I thought since lungmen outskirts was kinda easy lungmen downtown would be too. I proceeded to get buttraped and pummeled.

any help on lungmen downtown anni

[brisk surge]

🫵

[still vessel]

stfu max

[brisk surge]

you wanna join vc and stream it

[still vessel]

sure

the rhine lab HQ one?

[full terrace]

So many newbies struggle on downtown maybe I should make a Low-End clear video for that

[brisk surge]

yeah

the one im in smh

downtown nuked me too

🚬

[full terrace]

How?

[brisk surge]

arf despite what you think

i started this game with no help and shitty unit prio

the only saving grace was i pulled on ines's release banner

wait i lied

i got it confused with commercial district

im so smart

[still vessel]

\

[elder flume]

Lying in this game nowei

[full terrace]

Yeah I understand Commercial District coz there are few high pressure waves, and there is Rat King too

With very limited deployment limit coz of devices

[brisk surge]

rat king i think was my main issue

big splash aoe

[full terrace]

The way I see it, Deployment Limit is the issue

[brisk surge]

hmm

idk he just kinda kills all my units when he spawned

[full terrace]

For people with no or few units with role compression

That can be annoying

[brisk surge]

idk how i beat it last time its been 1 year or 2

[full terrace]

Anyway, with today standard it shouldnt be that difficult

[brisk surge]

wis

[full terrace]

My alt breezed through it

But then again, my alt is strong

Its a rerolled Wisadel account

[brisk surge]

yeah that sounds about right

i remember bringing robots to bait his attack

that targets lowest hp

and shit

i hated that anni

[elder flume]

I didnt feel anything there cuz CB was one of my most invested event where i tried a lot

Also the birth of Ange S3 bug

[full terrace]

Alt still got bunch of Lv1s

It was a Chapter 13 rush with E2 Lappland and Wis/Logos borrow, literally raised no units at all

[brisk surge]

wtfart calming music operator showcase

[full terrace]

Except for the 6 Stars

You didnt get the Hello Kitty collab bgm?

[brisk surge]

i dont play with sounds on most of the time

🥹

[full terrace]

Man, it's one of the things that keep me attached to this game

Some songs and bgms are the best

[brisk surge]

i cannot keep listening to the same intro to the lobby music when i press quit on cc

[full terrace]

Whachu talking about CC musics are cool 😅

DROWNING IN MY HELLFIRE

[brisk surge]

yeah but like when you lose

and you only hear the first 3 seconds before replaying

i still like the ccb1 song over 2 and 3

[full terrace]

The only bgm that struck me hard is Shu bgm

And coincidentally, they made that a homescreen UI bgm and started selling it

In CN*

I'm definitely buying that UI

[elder flume]

Pozy EP is prob my favorite

[full terrace]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jO8dOO61Ueo

Kirara Magic

[brisk surge]

@willow sun

[willow sun]

i was just about to ping you

oh he does wtfart

how broken is ulpenis s1

[brisk surge]

insanely broken

actually works

[elder flume]

is it cuz puller s1 doesnt need target to activate hmm

ive always thought targetless was the reasoning they can

but then again Weedy exists and is very different in this gamemode

[pure orchid]

whats weedy ddo

i do have her built

[full terrace]

What else does Weedy do beside pushing 😏

[pure orchid]

dont tell me that true dmg actually does smth here

[elder flume]

her cannon fires S3 each shot

[pure orchid]

wtf 😭

Do you have a video

I dont wanna try it but i do wanna see it

[brisk surge]

?

just use her

you telling me you dont have weedy at least m6?

[south spindle]

can you do weird game fucky by pausing with weedy + cannon s3?

i feel like its such a weird skill it should have bugs

unless they are goated devs

if they are i believe it

[elder flume]

Weedy retreat has been done since her release

[south spindle]

retreat mid skill?

[elder flume]

essentially turns projectile into hitscan

ye

[thorn harness]

Is stronghold core meant to not be beaten? Everything I try I end up getting swarmed by enemies near the end

[south spindle]

o wow

not what i thought it would be but

there had to be a bug

[south spindle]

theres a bunch of guides here rain will probably link you one in a second

[elder flume]

its for velocity stacking in which stacking at the same frame is better than waiting

my PV 7 had to use it

[full terrace]

Here, read this #strategy message

[elder flume]

my Twitter is just showing me Ave Mujica and Suisei so its very hard to refind AK content

I'll showcase Weedy eventually

Somewhen today

[full terrace]

@pure orchid 11k Wisadel shot in F2 😂

[tidal sedge]

Wtf, how

[pure orchid]

Enemy takes one breath
Dies

[full terrace]

Survivor's Contract, thats a lucky Mimic squad

And it lands on Wisadel, you can see the blue aura effect on her sprite

[brisk surge]

arf known gambler???

[full terrace]

Red aura is Deathmatch

[pure orchid]

Arf youre gambling?

Im so proud of u 🥹

[full terrace]

No lol I reset til I got that Contract LOL

[pure orchid]

That is kinda gambling tho

[full terrace]

F3 with Blueprint ~> start with +2 Hope or Kettle ~> take Wis, pick Mimic

If I didnt get Survivor's Contract, reset

Nah gambling is hit or miss

I just reroll til I get it then start a run

[steel prairie]

uhhhh did I place Chen and Zuo way too far back ??? can the enemies behind still walk to those blue boxs on top ?????

also curse you Silence for having the shittest range cover ever

[pure orchid]

chen is doing fuck all there, place her somewhere else

zuo can solo that

heck shaw can too

[elder flume]

You should really learn to use Mumu summon

[pure orchid]

Real

[steel prairie]

oh yeah... but... this map area is super tricky to place... also doesnt her clone have be in range of her ???

[pure orchid]

id love to have that mumu

[elder flume]

Idt left enemies go top box but its too far of knowledge check for me to recall

[steel prairie]

she is my best dp generater... its so much easier with her

[elder flume]

Her summon clones ops
If you use it after everyone is deployed who will she clone

[pure orchid]

yeah and you dont even use her summon zzz

[steel prairie]

I dont trust with his 1 block... and yes I know his shield increases 1 block but its so hard to upkeep

[pure orchid]

you have to trust him then

[steel prairie]

I do use her summons... its just that this map there is almost no where to place without getting iced up

[pure orchid]

can we turn off pings

[elder flume]

Essentially Mumu is another Greythroat without her summon deployed

[pure orchid]

im literally here

[steel prairie]

oh wait Im having that issue as well

seems like a mobile issue tho

cause on my phone it still pings me even tho Im here

but not on PC

[steel prairie]

well... I mean there is literally drone spawns... so I gotta watch for that

[pure orchid]

mumu clone on healer is funny

[steel prairie]

does it actually heal or no ???

it only clones attackers ???

[pure orchid]

[elder flume]

It clones any op of your choosing
It will have their stats and range
If it dies it respawns again 17s

[steel prairie]

just making sure her clones doesnt have any exceptions that is hidden

like genshin characters info

[elder flume]

Doesnt Greythroat just die to caster at that spot idk

Ig u have Silence to prolong

Silence face down

Mumu 1 left put clone above Wisadel and your lanes are blockable

If you were to run Zuo Chen there then Zuo in front with Chen face up

[desert prairie]

Ifrit strat

[misty fossil]

what the fuck does silence having basic medic range got to do with it being shitty

[steel prairie]

poor coverage... its best to place units within her coverrage

[steel prairie]

no... she actually never died lol

ok not bad

[elder flume]

You can force close game to reset without losing sanity btw

Better than wasting 24 sanity and having to spend another 25 to get 400 kill reward

[steel prairie]

BUT THE FACT THAT ONCES THE ICE BOMBS APPEARED... SILENCE FUKING DIED WHILE MULBERRY LIVED.... AND MULBERRY IS RIGHT NEXT TO ONE

[steel prairie]

I assume thats only available on mobile right ???

[elder flume]

Why would pc not work

[still vessel]

pc works

[steel prairie]

oh really ???

[still vessel]

I did it like 10 mins earlier

on cityway 66

[steel prairie]

its because PC usually saves on the spot... where mobile you can like swipe your screen to force restart the app

[still vessel]

alt + f4

[steel prairie]

ah ok... your using google play emu tho ????

[elder flume]

LDPlayer is basically a mobile imitattion

[still vessel]

shouldnt matter

[steel prairie]

oh yeah that... for once alt f4 is actually useful LOL

[steel prairie]

ehh some of the old games I remember you cant restart on PC but you can on phone

but honestly I dont think my team is really ready for a perfect 400 kill run

[still vessel]

if you can get 395 you can get 400

[steel prairie]

yeah but I would be stressing myself out...

[still vessel]

[steel prairie]

ik ik but look this game already made me lose a ton of sanity irl... I have never been this angry before

like to the point of thankful for Elden Ring / Dark Souls difficulty... like now I actually know a game thats harder than them

so Im like gonna push it until I get more E2 ready

[still vessel]

strategy vs gameplay diff genres

[steel prairie]

my monitor is worth like $250 man.. I really dont want to punch thro it

XD

[steel prairie]

ik but this game is pretty hard

[still vessel]

consort radahn harder still

[steel prairie]

but Im looking for improvement still... the areas I circled are the areas that got leaked

eventually both Zuo and Chen died to the radio guys

wtf how much HP does those Radio buffers have... and why they somehow kick so hard ???

[steel prairie]

btw both Chen and Zuo died defending that spot... see I told you I dont trust them lol

[analog mirage]

I would try using a pusher instead of chen

[pure orchid]

move zuo 3 tiles up and you'll see him solo

[steel prairie]

the only pusher I have is Shaw... and I think those guys are pretty heavy for him to push

[pure orchid]

her

shaw is omna da

[steel prairie]

wait wtf the mages weight is 2 ??? wtf they eat ??? US burgers ???

[analog mirage]

Hmm how built is that zuo

[steel prairie]

how is the mages weight is whopping 2 but the bigger radio buffers are only 1 ??? wtf did Ursus eat ???

[steel prairie]

E1

most are E1

besides Chen

and Flametail

[analog mirage]

Yea that explains it

[steel prairie]

E2 is resource hungry... looking for rocks

[still vessel]

e2 chen and flametail

out of all the ops

[steel prairie]

big shortagews of rocks

[steel prairie]

LOL stfu ok... my wives have priority ok

[analog mirage]

U could try aiming wis up I guess

She can prolly keep up with both lanes

[steel prairie]

she does have all the coverage but the leak started with the Ursus gigantic guards waves... she even ran out of explosives and they are still alive

[analog mirage]

Which anni is this

I'll try and check what guides did

[steel prairie]

abandoned city

CHernobog is my first all 400 kills

[still vessel]

yk lungmen is next easiest rt

[steel prairie]

but honestly Im more surprised that the heralds weight is only 1 but the mages weight is 2... despite the fact heralds are way bigger

[steel prairie]

yeah I got a 400 clear on that as well

[still vessel]

both

?

[steel prairie]

mhmm

[still vessel]

you can do another one

[steel prairie]

I cleared Cherno for 400 and then one in lungmen city as well

[still vessel]

the anni with the longest name is pretty easy

forgot what it was called

[steel prairie]

ik that... just warming up tho im not gonna go into areas I havent explored yet

[elder flume]

Lapp is weight 10 for reference

Mudrock weight 6

[steel prairie]

wait the Ops have weight ???

[elder flume]

Enemy ver

[steel prairie]

is that her in her suit or no ???

[steel prairie]

oh... WTF.... Lappa what the hell did you eat ???

WTF I never knew Italian food can mek you obese

[analog mirage]

Nvm the guides are all 3 years old

[steel prairie]

tbh they all have pretty long names

[still vessel]

do stages change? shouldn't matter no?

[steel prairie]

I think they might swap out some enemies or the enemies might come at different times

[elder flume]

Its op diff
New age ops just curbstomp yet none shows it because the guide was old

[analog mirage]

They don't but I don't think we have the option of using most units they used

[steel prairie]

ok

[analog mirage]

We shouldn't be using them anyway

[elder flume]

Best to look for a normal person trying to clear anni than guides

[steel prairie]

btw here... did clear one

[analog mirage]

Most of em just slappee mudrock in the left

[still vessel]

lungmen downtown is ez should do it

[steel prairie]

lol... problem is I dont have mudrock

[still vessel]

[analog mirage]

There are many better lane holders than mudrock

But u don't have them or didn't build them yet

[steel prairie]

well... I dont have phalanx range characters... most of them keep dying to those crossbows

[still vessel]

place a guard in front

[steel prairie]

do defenders like Saria or Nearl count as lane holders ???

[still vessel]

you got mlynar or SA?

[steel prairie]

I did... they also died... eventually at the end only the support Wis was still alive and everyone else keep dying

[analog mirage]

Blaze should do it try moving her to left

[steel prairie]

I didnt even use Kal sit since I dont have her at that time... both Mulberry and Silence died (and they were behind someone)

[still vessel]

weird you got lappalt?

[steel prairie]

yes

[still vessel]

you could try my clear strat

[steel prairie]

k

[steel prairie]

who is SA btw ???

[still vessel]

silver ash

[analog mirage]

Silverass

[steel prairie]

ah... LOL

[pure orchid]

Lapp known fatass, meanwhile mudmud get daily exercise from walking around in her heavy ahh suit

[still vessel]

kinda need module on him or hes subpar

[steel prairie]

ah make sense actually

so Lappa is actually dummy thicc

Texas just need to insult her weight then

[still vessel]

you can use this team? do you have everyone?

[steel prairie]

oh... except for Silverash and Mlynar... dont have those

[still vessel]

wont work then mlynar is vital

silverash replaceable for better laneholder

[analog mirage]

Exu💀

[steel prairie]

luckily Rainchan strat on 8-3 forced me to build those low star characters

but yeah Im missing both Silver and Mlynar

[still vessel]

she works good believe it or not her skill cycle is really good for the drones

[analog mirage]

Use kroostee or something

[still vessel]

dont have

[analog mirage]

She's free

[brisk surge]

[steel prairie]

I mean I can get Mlynar from a support no ???

[brisk surge]

and hes gonna be like do this event

payday gonna be like i cant unlock it

[still vessel]

kroosalt cant be unlocked cause i dont have the token

[brisk surge]

no currency

and hes gonna be like

oh

[still vessel]

stfu max

[brisk surge]

good convo

[still vessel]

wyd

[brisk surge]

watching is4

[elder flume]

What did u use it on

It refills weekly

[still vessel]

silverash story for module, then gladia

[brisk surge]

hes played for 3 weeks

[still vessel]

2

[brisk surge]

2

[still vessel]

almost 3

[pure orchid]

2

[steel prairie]

wait is GLadia also free ???

[still vessel]

yes

[brisk surge]

qyurii

[elder flume]

Damn SA module over Krooster

[still vessel]

under tides side stroy

[brisk surge]

can you join vc

🥹

[still vessel]

sure

[brisk surge]

no you

[steel prairie]

omg free abyss hunter ??? damn

[brisk surge]

[pure orchid]

nope im eat lunch

[brisk surge]

wtfart

[pure orchid]

yall want mukbang?

[still vessel]

lol

[brisk surge]

yes

tyes

ye

🙏

[somber falcon]

Just keep using exu
Still fine

[analog mirage]

The core of ah teams yea

[steel prairie]

ok perfect 1 key for krooster and one for Gladia

[pure orchid]

bro you dont want that ima be fr 😭

[still vessel]

not like imma invest in her anymore

[brisk surge]

I DO

[still vessel]

stand in till i get krooster next week

shes gon get replaced by herself in a few months anyways

[somber falcon]

Exu still better than krooster

[still vessel]

im being told 2 different things

[brisk surge]

exu is indeed better than krooster for the most part

its just not worth building cuz 6 star

🚬

[still vessel]

do i get krooster or keep investing in exu

[steel prairie]

thats basically me when listening

[analog mirage]

I'd rather have no damage and cc than no damage with no cc

[elder flume]

Why not both for AA

[steel prairie]

XD

[brisk surge]

just sit there and upgrade nothing

[somber falcon]

The only reason help clamors over krooster is only because she's cheaper

[brisk surge]

and wait till you see what you need

[somber falcon]

Performance wise exu is 100% better

[still vessel]

oh

wtf

liars

imma build exu then

e2 my baby

[brisk surge]

i only upgrade units when i need them on my alt

[somber falcon]

And the "but no dmg to bosses" argument is straight 🚮
Like yeah no shit? Why are expecting that from her?

[brisk surge]

sometimes holding on to mats is fine

[somber falcon]

God forbid different ops fo different things

🤯

[steel prairie]

meanwhile me: wait your Ops deal dmg to bosses ???

[still vessel]

fr like i got mlynar for bosses i just need a drone op

[brisk surge]

the main reason is that 6 star for a glorified drone killer is like

🤏

thats why we recommend krooster

cuz its cheaper

but performance exu is better sure

[still vessel]

is it cheaper if ive already got e1lvl30 exu

[steel prairie]

I have around 140 sanity left should I do more anni missions or farm rocks for E2 ??? (literally all the Ops seems to use rocks for E2)

[still vessel]

farm e2

[brisk surge]

we just explained it

[analog mirage]

Yes the bulk of costs come from e2ing

[brisk surge]

in vc

you were there mf

💢

[still vessel]

oh yeah like 70klmd vs 400k or smth

[steel prairie]

damn... we cant they just dig the rocks themselves LOL

[somber falcon]

Yeah for newbies who don't have either it's an ok advice
But like in this case it's already an e1 30 exu, just keep using it
Why wasting more resources to bring someone else up to that level

[still vessel]

sunken cost fallacy

[brisk surge]

because its still cheaper to e2 krooster compared to e2ing exu

[analog mirage]

Krooster also has cc so she doesn't become completely useless later on

[still vessel]

ok ok

fine

ill get krooster

[brisk surge]

unreliable cc

thats not why people build her in the first place

[still vessel]

does kroosalt still say KOKODAYO

[brisk surge]

idk

[still vessel]

cause i swear if she does

[somber falcon]

Ye