strategy

[misty umbra]

Is there something im missing?

[steel prairie]

sigh it always looks so easy... until I realize no one in my units deal arts dmg

[desert prairie]

top lane is for ranged heavy setup
bottom lane is for ground heavy setup
both gets killed by ifrit

[tiny vale]

refraction:

[elder flume]

thats the gist of it

[misty umbra]

Huh

[desert prairie]

i see 3 rng chokepoints

[misty umbra]

Whaddya know

[brisk surge]

what is you playing this time rain

[elder flume]

9 CS clear screen

[brisk surge]

s3?

[elder flume]

ye

[brisk surge]

sounds interesting

[misty umbra]

What defense strategy do you guys recommend?

[elder flume]

not Logos

[prisma elk]

You should send the screenshot as well of what it looks like since I think people might confuse to buying only tier 1s for the arts you get after a promotion

[elder flume]

tbh T1 ops arent bad for R4

as long as its unique

and its not meant for people to copy

who the hell wants to reroll R6 3o times for a chance at it

[prisma elk]

Oh and also the don't upgrade the barge beyond level 3-4 since it inflates the operator pool too much

[elder flume]

i can refine it ig

[prisma elk]

... I mean I got it in like... 5 resets

[prisma elk]

I feel kinda stupid now that I did try to copy it word by word for a few hours yesterday lmao

[elder flume]

Thonk

[wary shuttle]

how do you get so much money

[kindred galleon]

everyone n their mom using ascalon on pv-s-3

[fast kernel]

is sa e1 worth it

or should i go for someone else

as a beginner

[prisma elk]

It's a budget mountain, I guess, can't really judge if it's good or not myself since not that experienced with it

[nocturne cove]

go for e2 if he is your main dps

who else do you have?

[fast kernel]

lapp e1

project red

thorn

red is e2

la pluma

[nocturne cove]

why would you e2 red 😔
yeah you can upgrade SA to e2 as his main skill is s3

[fast kernel]

i got that free e2 thing for beginners, so i chose her as the e2

[nocturne cove]

shouldve used it on someone like tequila la pluma or lapp

[fast kernel]

oof

[fast kernel]

yea i didnt have any of them at the start so i was hasty

soo do i e1 someone else or

[nocturne cove]

focus on SA atm, you should also raise your 3 stars like spot kroos lava orchid as they will help you early on

[fast kernel]

ohh spot is good?

[nocturne cove]

good for a 3 star yeah, does his job fine

[fast kernel]

alright so the plan is get e1 silverash and then e2 lapp and then e2 thron?

[nocturne cove]

e2 SA

lapp works on e1

[fast kernel]

e2 sa and e2 thorn then

no need for e2 lapp?

[nocturne cove]

just give her some levels, you can e2 lapp but you need to manage where your resources are going

[brisk surge]

thorn is kinda 🤏 imo

low prio

[fast kernel]

oh

so only e2 sa

alr

[nocturne cove]

i think you should pull on the JO- if you cn collect enough pulls

[brisk surge]

[south spindle]

ehh rather save

[brisk surge]

now why would you suggest that

[fast kernel]

for who?

[south spindle]

JO is still sketch ulpian is good but 25%
exec and dorothy are fine but not the most rec
pozy meh

[brisk surge]

i do love the rat but what if a new player gets her now what

[nocturne cove]

ok but it's only 25%, the rat i mean

even then all the ops are good/great

[fast kernel]

wait im like 1/3rd of the way to the 10 pull

[nocturne cove]

ok save nvm

[brisk surge]

[south spindle]

Just rather think pulling Yu Mon3tr Ascalon Exualt better to save for

[fast kernel]

for next banner?

[brisk surge]

Sorry rain for the interruption

[nocturne cove]

yu? no yu is skip

[nocturne cove]

yeah (when a good banner drops)

[fast kernel]

alr

[nocturne cove]

thorns alt has rose salt as welfare no?

[south spindle]

yeap

[steel prairie]

WTF THE HOVER GUY CAN DESTROY THE OBSTACLES ??? THIS IS NO LONGER A CHOICE

[pure orchid]

generally if enemy have no path to blue box, they will destroy obstacle

[desert prairie]

thats wisadel summon i think
oh blocked

[steel prairie]

THATS BS

[nocturne cove]

it is what it is

[steel prairie]

he can go the otherway

[pure orchid]

thats not bs, how else will the enemy go to their objective

[steel prairie]

the path below is open... yet he made both paths open

wtf is this hacks ???

[pure orchid]

no, they have a checkpoint there

its a bit technical

but its a point they have to go to before reaching blue box, no matter what

[south spindle]

they have to walk out of the red box to the right

[brisk surge]

fixed path enemies 🚬

[south spindle]

im presuming it covered that path

[pure orchid]

that includes even if they get blocked by obstacle
i.e., they will destroy obstacle even if they normally don't

[steel prairie]

am I suppose to destroy the piller over the blue box ???

[south spindle]

which way was pillar knocked down? left wards?

[south spindle]

you can try it... mate FAFO

[steel prairie]

knocked upwards

[south spindle]

ah might just be fixed path enemies

[elder flume]

it went longer than message limit lol

[brisk surge]

[south spindle]

my goat

[steel prairie]

chapter 9 is a arts dps check

[brisk surge]

send it as a txt file maybe

[pure orchid]

its not lol

[brisk surge]

people can still read it on discord

[steel prairie]

wdym ??? so many riot shielders

[pure orchid]

its a phys dps check given everything have 70 res

even shielders have res

[steel prairie]

wait... so even the riot shielders has res ???

[south spindle]

do you see the effects on them...?

[cyan gorge]

phys and/or silence (debuff) check

[south spindle]

have you read what they do

[pure orchid]

please read their effects

i will not spoonfeed them

[misty fossil]

me when i just want to vent about the enemies but refuse to read anything

[steel prairie]

wdym ??? its res rating is E... which sucks right ???

its def is B

[elder flume]

read what refraction is

[steel prairie]

so its arts dps check then right ???

[pure orchid]

Now read the refraction trait

[final obsidian]

Click on the thing that says Refraction

[elder flume]

how do i do that again

[steel prairie]

...but what grade does it bumps it up too tho ???

[brisk surge]

just write it on like notepad and save it and send it here

[steel prairie]

also is it always active ???

[misty fossil]

???

[pure orchid]

dump the entire grade system, its fucking useless

[elder flume]

alrighty

[pure orchid]

70 res is just straight up 70% reduction to all arts dmg received

[brisk surge]

that should work (i think)

[steel prairie]

well you said to read... it just gives us letters

[pure orchid]

def works differently

it gives you a number

70

[final obsidian]

Its always on unless you silence it

[south spindle]

RES grading makes sense
DEF letter grading is

[wary shuttle]

why doesnt HG just give us the exact numbers

[south spindle]

Check wiki for details

[brisk surge]

okay it works

[wary shuttle]

well yeah but why don't they just display it in game

[pure orchid]

excuse me

[steel prairie]

exactly

[pure orchid]

i am being peaceful

[sullen rover]

cuz most plebs doesnt care
the ppl who do care just goes to another thirdparty site anyway

[pure orchid]

yeah like people will see 2000 def 40 res
now what? do they even know basic dmg formula

[south spindle]

right now both of you are fence of not being plebs

by learning to read and search wiki

you wiill graduate

yippie!

[pure orchid]

wowa

when will i learn how to calc dmg fully?

[south spindle]

gaze long enough into the abyss

[sullen rover]

[south spindle]

and sure

[steel prairie]

that arguably is better to understand than some random fuking letters

[south spindle]

you can also stay for my office hours 😏

[pure orchid]

ima pass on that

[cyan gorge]

Math? I just hit things till they die

[steel prairie]

you see COD gun formula all being numbers and its way easier to understand than letters (which they used to use)

[prisma elk]

I bet that 90℅ of EN dweller don't even read the boss mechanics unless the boss specifically fucks with their ops either cuz there's Dodge and wisadel can't kill em or it's the IQ check stages of the Garderner

[pure orchid]

not if you dont know basic dmg formula
people see 2000 def 40 res and will assume arts better cus lower number when thats hardly the case

[sullen rover]

its not random S-A means high and it drops below

[brisk surge]

erm why cant my ops block civ in 12-19

[sullen rover]

just saying he has high def (S) and low res (D) gives casuals enuf context to know who to bring

[steel prairie]

so why not just at first use Lappa then use arts dps to smack on them ???

[final obsidian]

Why are you asking me that

[sullen rover]

numbers dosnt cuz doods doesnt even know what those means

[pure orchid]

kid named refraction, dodge, and dr

[steel prairie]

your the one that said that silence can stop the refraction ???

(since when is Lappa this OP for a 5 star ?)

[misty fossil]

my brother in the span of this conversation you couldve completed the stage twice with 1 being FAFO clear

[brisk surge]

i use D - S rating usually anyways unless im doing D15 IS

[pure orchid]

since ch4 spiders ?

[fast kernel]

is e1 lvl 1 sa stronger than lvl 50 sa?

[brisk surge]

yes

a lot

[pure orchid]

i mean duh

[fast kernel]

ohhh

cuz i thought the lvl reset

means i have o like relevel

[cyan gorge]

stats carry over

e1 lvl 1 and e0 max is the same stats iirc

[fast kernel]

alr

[south spindle]

TLDR Differences in levels kind of mean jack in this game its 80% about promotion (Elites)
Levels add stats but are not much compared to talent upgrades/new skills

[steel prairie]

very bold of you to assume that... when a single level usually takes me a whole fukin hour to beat (especially if its a swarm or boss level)

[rapid junco]

[misty fossil]

well i wish you good luck then

[south spindle]

If you are spending that long without borrwing units

you are learning

it gets better

not it gets better, game keeps getting harder but you get better

[cyan gorge]

Well you have the solution
bring lappland or up your physical damage

[steel prairie]

im trying not to succumb to Wis brainrot

[lofty stag]

What if I get worse

[south spindle]

good, when did you start

[steel prairie]

lappa is always with me... she is mandatory basically

[south spindle]

i would say self diagnose Dr. YD9

[misty umbra]

Yknow doing the infinite gold strat would be nice if the barge rolled ops i already had

[steel prairie]

also I have like what ??? 4 physical dps and they all cant bring down a Rioter in time

[south spindle]

whats your operator comp

[steel prairie]

actually 6

6 physical dps and they cant bring one down

[south spindle]

whats your squad / when did you start

[cyan gorge]

that depends on what phys dps you have

[south spindle]

lvl 90 chen jeez

when did you start

[pure orchid]

zuo le will dwarf that shit

[steel prairie]

uhhh I think like 3 weeks ago now...

[steel prairie]

he leaks tho...

also not enough

[south spindle]

okay ch9 on standard mode im presuming not story right

[steel prairie]

btw besides Chen and GT no one else is E2

and Lappa and Tex

well

those were kinda of free E2

[cyan gorge]

GT is not breaking anything with decent def

[final obsidian]

Marksman gap

[steel prairie]

oh she is there because I got paranoid with drones

[south spindle]

Dont push past 60/50/40 for 6/5/4 4* E2s

[sullen rover]

greythroat when krooster exist

[cyan gorge]

I don't think there's a single drone in chap 9

[steel prairie]

ehhh ??? but I actually do need that machine gun

[south spindle]

GT was an interesting investment one of your biggest issues is

elemental healers suck

[cyan gorge]

aside from flying gargoyles

[south spindle]

Mulberry wont get jack done

[steel prairie]

ik but I dont want to be surprised

[cyan gorge]

oh yeah hoverboards exist

[steel prairie]

my Mulberry did more than fukin SIlence because she couldnt even reach the healing area

[south spindle]

Logos is the squad thing right sweep?

[elder flume]

yes

[pure orchid]

I cry

[south spindle]

Oh ok

[steel prairie]

tho are pretty ez ngl... Lin got those

[south spindle]

Yeah but interms of healing, silence is significantly better

[steel prairie]

ehhh... my Silence cant heal shit... literally Patriot radiation out deals Silence healing... also her poor range means she is an ez target (she dies alot)

like I have to put her upfront

[cyan gorge]

Mulberry is ok for burn damage, but wandering medics are notoriously weak when it comes to normal healing

[south spindle]

And mulberry is out healing patriot?

[final obsidian]

Deployment order so medics don’t die

[steel prairie]

neither... but Mulberry can atleast live... and heal units that are further down

[sullen rover]

huh is he fighting 7-18

[steel prairie]

nonono I bringing out why my Silence sucks at healing

[steel prairie]

wait there is both elemental and physical healing ???

[south spindle]

bro silence is one of the best standard medics

😭

[cyan gorge]

Silence is 100% better at healing than Mulberry solely cause of her drone on s2

[steel prairie]

for me... ehhh...... if only my medics doesnt get sniped

[south spindle]

this is a matter of indeed playing better

[steel prairie]

for me the drone is a double edged sword... because it takes up a slot

and has cooldown

[rapid junco]

Why your healer get sniped?

[south spindle]

considering deployment before you deploy and the order

[cyan gorge]

replay old tutorials on deployment order if medics are dying

[steel prairie]

welll for example... Patriot has pority target.. and so as other enemies... and 2nd because Silence healing range sucks I have to place her in the frontlines... which even while placed 1st she gets targetted by mages

and when using her drone... the healing is lower than Mulberry

and takes up a slot

[rapid junco]

Patriot spear aim farest enemy from him, get a guess and bait it

[cyan gorge]

Patriot fires spear at farthest ranged operator, ignoring deployment order

[rapid junco]

It's also only aim range tile unit

[steel prairie]

arent most medics range ???

excluding defenders

[rapid junco]

Ye

[steel prairie]

so yeah of course Patriot is gonna gun my medics

[rapid junco]

It's deal phys, base w talent can dodge it

[steel prairie]

but even then I usually place Silence pretty close to the front to the point where even the mages get a shot

[steel prairie]

I dont have W

[south spindle]

now this is completely incorrect

the healing is not lower than mulberry

and the drone does not take deployment limit

[rapid junco]

He becomes can hit ranged tiles on phase 2 too if that your problem

[steel prairie]

by slot I mean a tile

I call tiles slot because when I said tiles earlier someone else got confused

bruh

no universal call sign

[rapid junco]

Just don't place healer too close and place some bait on right bottom

[south spindle]

they might have just been slow
who doesn't call them tiles wtf?

[rapid junco]

or simply kill him fast with wisadel 2 cycle

[steel prairie]

ik but we are trying to not use Wis brainrot

[sullen rover]

is this h74

[steel prairie]

Chapter 9... where there is like a choice if you either go all range or all grouond

with the pillers

[rapid junco]

Mlynar also can kill him with mines

[sullen rover]

what stage bro

[steel prairie]

9-14... also like 50% of chapter 9 are all like choices with the pillers ????

like you either go all range or all ground

[south spindle]

its like every chapter has a theme and new mechanic

[steel prairie]

no inbetween

[steel prairie]

chapter 9 so far.. its piller choices

[south spindle]

either play the game or dont now you are just complaining about the stages blud

[steel prairie]

you knock 1 piller down and go all range or all ground

[south spindle]

thats like 2 or 3 stages

[rapid junco]

Ch 9 don't have Patrik waa

You meant Mandragora?

[south spindle]

they aren't up to Mandra yet

[sullen rover]

[cyan gorge]

I vaguely remember 9-14, I think I knocked pillars down to funnel everything to left side and killed everything with aoe

[steel prairie]

bruh Im describing the stages... what else you want me to say ???

[sullen rover]

wheres patriot in 914

[south spindle]

you described like 2 or 3 stages of the entire chapter

[steel prairie]

more like 5

[south spindle]

that involve choosing ranged or melee

Theres atleast 20 stages

[steel prairie]

thats still quite a lot

[misty fossil]

isnt it more like how you choose to play out the stage

[steel prairie]

also wtf 20 stages ???

[rapid junco]

[cyan gorge]

That's the average

[south spindle]

more than 20 with H stages for sure

[steel prairie]

ik but typically for me I combine both range and ground to max out the dps... where here my dps gets sliced in half

[rapid junco]

We don't even know your DPS unit

[misty fossil]

so are u on 9-14 right now
can we see what your squad looks like

[cyan gorge]

Can you just show what you're doing in the stage that isn't working?

[elder flume]

reposting Logos infinite money strat to update few things
will update if i find more occurences

[south spindle]

they're not even asking for help is the thing

squad is up there just scroll

[steel prairie]

ok nvm there is no way I can dps this... gonna have to use Wis

[final obsidian]

😭

[rapid junco]

Like I say. Idk who his dps

[elder flume]

might wana kill him

[rapid junco]

No borrow make his live harder

[steel prairie]

arent there like... multiple dps in a squad ???

[tidal sedge]

Oh, the Chalter stage 🥹

[south spindle]

Maybe you can still figure something out

[cyan gorge]

If you want a hint, try using a burst dps to kill the flamethrower dudes on right so they knock down the pillars to the left

[south spindle]

You can definitely still beat it

[rapid junco]

They not suited for the stage

[south spindle]

Maybe wanna time it

Well if they wanna get better they should try to push the limit

[sullen rover]

i think exec solos right and u just bait the burn zzz

[steel prairie]

is Chalter the mini boss here ???

[south spindle]

they dont have exec

[sullen rover]

borrow one

[south spindle]

uh no the operator

well the point is to improve using own units

they're not necessarily stuck they just got to it more experimenting to be done

yeah easy way out is borrow

[sullen rover]

[rapid junco]

Logos s1 with burn bait can solve this🤫

[sullen rover]

can muelsyse contant bait burn and his ops just chunk everything else

[rapid junco]

Nope e1 stat blob

[wary shuttle]

cant you just use jaye or something

[steel prairie]

ok nope 100% no dps gonna have to Wis it

[steel prairie]

Jaye ???

see the main issue is that your facing against like 5 rioters at the same time

[wary shuttle]

yeah those ground tile restrictions arent favorable, what about chain caster then

[cyan gorge]

Lapp further up with a caster that isn't Lin could work

[steel prairie]

chain ??? caster ???

[sullen rover]

youve chunked through half the stage drop a pillar and keep going lol

[cyan gorge]

Oh yeah pillars

[cyan gorge]

just drop those on top of the rioters

[steel prairie]

also as you can see the only units that can kill those flamethowers 1 on 1 is those high DP cost guards... so basically very wasteful as well

[cyan gorge]

Jaye can 1v1 them even at e1

[wary shuttle]

are you doing a CM or some underleveled niche?

[steel prairie]

you just reposted my pic ???

[cyan gorge]

He marked it, look again

[sullen rover]

drop it down dawg

doesnt even look like theres a dmg bottleneck there

[steel prairie]

oh... but you still have 4 golems tho

[sullen rover]

can gt just kills those gargoyle

yeah kill them bruh

[steel prairie]

not all 4... about maybe 1

[sullen rover]

texas flametail chen

redirect ur resources after ur done with those def

[steel prairie]

pffff my texas and flametail dmg is ape shit... they couldnt even 1 v 1 a flamethower guy

[sullen rover]

they stun dawg

more time to do dmg

zzzzzz

thats all it matters

[steel prairie]

ok let me redo it again to show you even with the stun... they do like 10% of the total dmg on the enemy... like I 100% garuntee you

[wary shuttle]

also, why dont you just attack the flamethrowers before they start bunching up

you only need to get one

[sullen rover]

flying form gargoyle isnt even tanky from memory

[steel prairie]

I did... hence why Skadi and Zou were on cooldown earlier

[desert prairie]

is chen s2 or s3 there?

[steel prairie]

Skadi got ready first and desperatly placed her since CHen and Blaze cant hold all of them

[sullen rover]

my god bro stun = more time to do dmg its just fucking extra dmg + extra dmg from other sources

[steel prairie]

S3

[wary shuttle]

why not used ranged units though,

[sullen rover]

its literally better than letting blaze sit and do jack shit to flying

[wary shuttle]

alternatively get one low and then kill them with AOE when they bunch up

[steel prairie]

arent range units more fragile ???

[wary shuttle]

you can outrange them

[sullen rover]

you dont even have a deplot slot bottle neck

[steel prairie]

did you not see flametail and chen on cooldown ?? yeah because I did what you said... they already fukin DIED

[steel prairie]

whats their tile range ???

[cyan gorge]

very short

like less than 1 tile iirc

[wary shuttle]

so just plop a caster or something down where greythroat or silence is early on

or any of the long range snipers on the bottommost ranged tile

[steel prairie]

actually... let me take a break on chapter 9... cause now my Amiya is ready for E2... which btw should I use this on her ???

is it worthy for Amiya E2 ???

[wary shuttle]

in the meta sense no but you should do it for the larp anyways

[steel prairie]

lore larp ???

[wary shuttle]

also because her E2 costs way too many big rocks

[steel prairie]

ok

[elder flume]

thats just insta level

[wary shuttle]

in the long run its largely irelevant anyways

[elder flume]

not insta E2

which on Amiya is questionable

not like i can say much about it when i used it on Sora for stronger heals

[steel prairie]

ik but I just got E2 Amiya... which is mandatory for Taluhah boss fight

[final obsidian]

@steel prairie If you want a general idea with your squad, sorry I don't have GreyThroat or Silence raised but I tried to use similar replacement

[steel prairie]

so now Im facing Taluhah now

[wary shuttle]

its fine, its not like she's unusable, especially with module making S2 more workable

[steel prairie]

ic... tho Im gonna need that E2 Lin tho LOL

[final obsidian]

I used skill 2 for you

[steel prairie]

ik but Ive been warned that Taluhah is hell

[final obsidian]

If you use skill 3 its much easier

Zuo Le mogs this stage

[steel prairie]

btw can the enemy walk over those roof pipes ???

[south spindle]

Roof pipes?

The transparentish tiles?

[wary shuttle]

yes

[south spindle]

Yes

[steel prairie]

those pipes on the right

[south spindle]

Just normal ground tiles

OH

Thats off the map

Lmao

[steel prairie]

oh so we can place units there ???

[south spindle]

I thought you meant this lmao

[steel prairie]

I do mean that... but the ones closer to the red box

[south spindle]

This is not placeable

[steel prairie]

oh lol

[steel prairie]

but I do mean that... I thought those are pipes

just smaller pipes

but the enemy can walk thro those ?

[south spindle]

The first image i sent is placeable

[steel prairie]

oh ok ic ic

[south spindle]

2nd image is off the map

dawg, FAFO

the enemies aren't the biggest problem here

[steel prairie]

also I am assuming that Taluhah is coming from the left ???

[south spindle]

actually they're kind of an equalish threat

please just try the map lol

theres a reason devs dont even show boss pathing after a few chapters lol

[steel prairie]

what does FAFO even means ???

[south spindle]

fuck around and find out

[steel prairie]

well technically I would if they can add a fukin retry button instead of stressing my brain out

[south spindle]

no one gets stages first try even

even the best players

dont know what to expect because genunely dont know

[wary shuttle]

part of the experience

[brisk surge]

erm i beat 0-1 first try

[prisma elk]

Noone ever saw CE in chapter 14 and expected whatever the fuck that was

[wary shuttle]

if you got lucky with your placements and unga bunga'd hard enough you could probably win first try

[left pecan]

Or just true dmg idk u have to use amigos anyway

[brisk surge]

AMIGO???

[prisma elk]

I just use virt

[south spindle]

pro

[brisk surge]

[elder flume]

@prisma elk i finished the guide

now go sleep

[prisma elk]

Me or you?

[south spindle]

like literally everyone when they encountered kazfalls

[elder flume]

you

[south spindle]

except my goat qyurii of course

[elder flume]

thats not Qyurii

[prisma elk]

It's noon so I'll be going to be early in about 7 hours, yeeee

I won't stop till I get that set up!!

[south spindle]

huh

qyurii first tried kazfalls blind

and drafted mountain

my goat

[elder flume]

oh you meant previous Qyurii run

[brisk surge]

he did draft monten

[south spindle]

oh did qyurii have an incident

[elder flume]

nah i just thought you meant Max since hes here with Qyurii on his name

[prisma elk]

Thanks too btw

[south spindle]

oh no lmao

thats why max's name is that

of course i know who max is

[brisk surge]

i dont lose kaz falls

[south spindle]

you lose to femboys yes yes

[nocturne cove]

Kaz fall is so free

Ngl

[south spindle]

its free after you realize how it works

[nocturne cove]

The only stage I hate are the ones that are aoe check

[south spindle]

just first encounter

[nocturne cove]

I don't draft wisadel and my guard options are shit

For aoe

[prisma elk]

Nvm I accidentally sold my karlan file, even before getting the 20 resets, I'mma go to bed, thanks again @elder flume for teaching me how to do it

[elder flume]

ye ive imagined it happening before

quite surprised ive lasted this long not destroying it

only mistake ive gotten so far is Barge 5

[brisk surge]

i wanna sleep too

WTF ITS 12

[elder flume]

but that allowed me to write on Coin Operated Machine so ig its something

[brisk surge]

[left pecan]

American spotted

Kill max

[brisk surge]

aint no way i stayed up till 12pm 🥹

[prisma elk]

Atleast is recoverable if you mess up at around 80+ since you can just reset but it's like 30 mins of progress gone like that, if you sell the karlan statue, then that's the one that's fucked up since you need barge 5 to recover it lmao

[elder flume]

ye

i always put Karlan Model on rightmost

[prisma elk]

I put it 3rd right most so the edge of my thumbs line up with it easily

[elder flume]

its order is
Meteor Kazi File > Andreana AH File > bunch of ops with double upgraded items to remove from pool > Meteor dupe > Meteor dupe > Karlan File > Karlan Model

[prisma elk]

Is it worth alloting the ah files to Adreanna instead of using her as another source of funds?

[elder flume]

such as what

you mean duping herz?

[prisma elk]

Yea, I assumed you wouldn't want any equipment on anyone for their dupes

[elder flume]

only 3 Files can exist in squad
by using Andreana on it you remove the chance for AH File to appear

[prisma elk]

Is that marginally better in the long run if you're looking for specific equipment and arts?

Or advised only around when you've already have enough funds and you're already searching for equipment

[steel prairie]

bruh how do we know which heat pipes go thro where ???

[elder flume]

i have infinite money
an extra 1-4 gold is nothing lol when i can remove a couple items permanently from appearing

ye you dont do this when youre low on gold

[elder flume]

you can read more on it

[prisma elk]

Ohh, gotcha, I only ever go around 90 funds since it's already more than enough for me to game test some set ups so I don't go as far as you do

[prisma elk]

Ohhh nice, thanks a lot

I'll go read it once I wake up I need to go to bed im selling the wrong ops now left and right lmao

[elder flume]

maybe i should add do not buy any other equipment until you reach twenty gold for safety

[steel prairie]

how the hell are we suppose to know where is Taluhuh is targetting ???

[elder flume]

its why they call it FAFO

[sullen rover]

normal targeting no last deployed

[elder flume]

but if you really need the knowledge go to Mapark website

and reading prts.wiki or arknights wiki.gg for indepth coding of enemies

[atomic harness]

ty! feels like abusing snipers was the way to go scaling with defenderknights and abyssal hunters felt awful

[steel prairie]

what does FAFO even stands for ???

[sullen rover]

bruh hes asking abt the pathing

[elder flume]

Fuck around find out is a term for trial and error in which you see what enemies do through your live gameplay

[elder flume]

Mapark is for pathing if you really need it

[south spindle]

i told you already what FAFO stands for @steel prairie

[brisk surge]

[final obsidian]

[weak gazelle]

[steel prairie]

bruh this really stressing my brain to sui levels

HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSE TO EVEN SHOOT DOWN THE FUKIN DRONE ???????

[elder flume]

Oh you met mr drone

[steel prairie]

FAFO is literally the equivalent of telling me to go jump of a microwave for real

you think my fcfukin brain wiht like 3 mental disorder can handle FAFO ????

FAFO is literally the quivalent of telling me to jump off somewhere

stfu

[brisk surge]

[steel prairie]

it literally hurts my brain for real

but honestly what are you even suppose to do here ?? my fukin Silence is so fukin stupid she doesnt even know how to heal herself

Silence is good my ass biggest lie I ever heard

with the longest ever cooldown on the drone

[wary shuttle]

you can either remove the burn with status res

or bait

[steel prairie]

status res ???

[wary shuttle]

you get it from the long range medics

[elder flume]

Lumen Whisperain Ceylon
Actually does Ceylon even have

[wary shuttle]

as for the drone, also bait it, I believe you can get away with using amiya S3 on it and still have it up in time for taluah

or at least get amiya placed early so she can do a bit of chip damage on it

[steel prairie]

is Amiya the only 5 star with a S3 ???

[wary shuttle]

yes

[steel prairie]

ok even besides the drones... I have to deal with these tanks... so it seems like Im gonna have to Wis it

[cyan gorge]

Only on skill with s2, so pretty much not even worth considering

[steel prairie]

also is the fire a AOE ??? because it has like 4 tiles of effect

[cyan gorge]

the explosion is a cross shape

so yes

[elder flume]

She can explode them into a cross range ye

[wary shuttle]

use some defenders

[steel prairie]

bruhhh... how am I suppose to know that... why no one tells me that earlier ???

[cyan gorge]

either bait the burn every 30 seconds or be smarter with placements

you learn by playing and paying attention

[steel prairie]

honestly if I see the word FAFO again Im gonna lose it for real

[cyan gorge]

but that's the best way to learn this game

[steel prairie]

my brain just cant process this fast... literally

[elder flume]

It doesnt have to be fast

[wary shuttle]

watching challenge clears also helps tbh, you only really get brainrotted when you start dropping unga bunga units

[steel prairie]

I did try that... but a lot of them only gives me more questions than answers because a lot of time the same unit I try to copy dies several seconds faster for some reason (or medics still getting snipped)

honestly with like 0 intel its super fustrated with a hard hit ADHD brain like me

[cyan gorge]

you also develop brainrot by needing every mechanic and stage info spoonfed to you rather than taking a minute to read and pay attention

[steel prairie]

you honestly think I can pay attention that well in the first place ???

[cyan gorge]

Idk you that well buddy

[wary shuttle]

I mean I would't recommend copying those 1:1, it's more the general approaches taken or something of that sort

[steel prairie]

I honestly prefer pre planning and being ready... rather than getting caught out by surprise

because I am very bad at adapting (super slow on it)

sorry I know Im fukin stupid... which is why every time I hear FAFO again Im am and will jump of a fukin microwave

[cyan gorge]

that's what practice mode is for

[cedar needle]

that's what 30 practice plans are for

[cyan gorge]

at worst, an attempt costs you 1 sanity

[cedar needle]

and you don't have to adapt on-the-fly, just pause when you see something going wrong, then take a second to recognize what actually went wrong

[steel prairie]

yeah but you have to re replicate again... along with a lack of retry it takes forever to start again (and the risk of crashing)

[cedar needle]

enemy intel is also pretty decent now after the revamp, you can read up on enemy's mechanics there

(which does require you to fail at least once beforehand but that's better than nothing)

[scarlet mortar]

if you're not used to managing a map, pause more often

[wary shuttle]

sadly timing's gotten complex enough that I don't think there's even a way to explain

[cyan gorge]

if you're really that adamant, then watch a guide beforehand

[steel prairie]

I did... it literally gives me more questions than answers because when I try to replicate it smth goes off

[scarlet mortar]

this game is inevitably FAFO-oriented so idk man, at some point it might just not be for you

[steel prairie]

thats why is yell BS a lot because a lot of times it goes against the guides Im using

[cedar needle]

if you try to copy a guide 1:1 you better have nearly the same stats/levels, because otherwise the timing might be thrown off

[cyan gorge]

Idk what else to tell you man

[scarlet mortar]

guides are never replicable if you don't use the same ops, same levels etc

if we're using your sense of replicability

[cedar needle]

too low lvl compared to guide? your ops now die 1 hit earlier or dont have enough dps to kill enemies before they leak
too high lvl? on some maps that might push the next wave too early and/or boss phase too early

[cyan gorge]

guides can be used to learn what enemies go where and how to properly use mechanics to your advantage, you don't need to copy 1 for 1

[scarlet mortar]

don't think of guides as sth to replicate bc that's not how this works

[cyan gorge]

otherwise you gotta just play it for yourself and adapt

[cedar needle]

yea, guide is more for you to have an overall idea of how the map will play out, so you can "come with a plan and be prepared" as you said it

[steel prairie]

ik but like the piller paths earlier... the enemy mechanics just go one paths... for me they cleared the obstacles out of the way... which I find none of the guides do... hence teh BS

[cedar needle]

you still can't "never adapt" in AK though, that just won't work

[steel prairie]

a lot of the time even when I do look for enemy mechanics a lot of times smth new just get thrown out of the air

[scarlet mortar]

you haven't learned everything then

that's observation diff

[cyan gorge]

That's the kind of game it is, your choices are adapt or die

[steel prairie]

ik but look sorry Im this fukin stupid ok.... I usually adapt at a snails place ok... (which is FAFO wants me to jump of a fukin microwave)

[cedar needle]

also, play on 1x if you have trouble at 2x

[steel prairie]

I always play on 1x... and some instantances its still very fast

[cedar needle]

if 1x is still too fast the next step is to pause often, especially when something goes wrong, so you have time to process what's going on

recording your own gameplay also helps but that might be going a bit too far

[steel prairie]

but honestly a lot of levels are giving me suicide thoughts literally... because Im this fukin stupid

[wary shuttle]

take a break

[cyan gorge]

At this point just take a hiatus from the game, it's not worth sacrificing mental sanity over it

[steel prairie]

and honestly telling me to get "spoonfed" literally worsened it... because I know Im fukin stupid ... I already failed at adapting things irl already... dont tell me I cant even do it here

[scarlet mortar]

1x isn't slow enough for most people, me included

just pause more

frankly bullet time and pausing are more manageable than 1x

once you're more used to the game you can 2x the monotonous parts of the map and use bullet time when new enemies/bosses appear

[buoyant bone]

Hi, any tips about core protocol hard mode? It's so hard

[steel prairie]

ok but honestly I dont wanna hear FAFO again... I just wanna be prepared... this game is already hard enough even on standard because of how much hassle it is to re prepare again and change your strats

[elder flume]

Can we compile all core strats into 1 message
I might do that later just so its easier to direct these questions

[elder flume]

Have you heard of our lord and savior maparknights website that shows every enemy map with their pathing and numbered stats

[elder flume]

Basically get to Barge 5 or 6 asap
You can make it faster by
Round 1 buy op
Round 2 upgrade Barge
Round 3 sell op and upgrade
Youre now at Barge 3 with better ops like Lapp Andreana Silence
Round 4 buy better ops
Round 5 etc win with rng as you level barge

[steel prairie]

ok now ic it... tho it does tell me none of my squads have enough dps anyway

[steel prairie]

also it doesnt show Tal fire hitboxes ???

[elder flume]

Thats where this comes in

Or Kyo and Ecko vids cuz they narrate them

Most likely if its a mechanic you should know then they will talk about it

[cedar needle]

It does tell you if you have enough dps or not if you are willing to calculate it yourself

Since all the detailed stats are there: at which timestamp the enemy spawns, how much is their hp/def, how fast they move

[steel prairie]

I dont find the indepth coding on wiki ???

[maiden hound]

Simply datamine.

[smoky blaze]

What are you guys cooking here?

[elder flume]

Huh does wiki not do that

Im used to PRTS but its in Chinese so not a lot of people read it

[smoky blaze]

Prts tells you the game mechanic

Ye

[elder flume]

I thought wiki is just EN ver of PRTS

[smoky blaze]

Prts also have en translation

[smoky blaze]

Arknights wiki.gg missing some in-detail info about the game mechanic, sometimes

[maiden hound]

Too bad wiki.gg doesn't have virtual gambling though.

[steel prairie]

oh no not even close

the wiki just have basic information

PRTS has way more detail... but still missing some like enemy attack patterns and enemy effects... etc

and kind of clunky

[steel prairie]

btw arent some datamines... uhhh illegal ???

[maiden hound]

Not when you're not flaunting.

[steel prairie]

uhhh yeah I would rather stay away from datamine unless its actually game changing

[smoky blaze]

Uhh.. rain has told you multiple times to check mapark.

[elder flume]

I just use what data they have to find out about silly things like Patriot resets phase 2 if he survives for 9999s

[steel prairie]

mhmm...I still dont see some other info like enemy attack hitboxes and such

[elder flume]

Mapark should have it under attack range

And under that is coding for if its splash with detailed tile number

Or maybe they use the word radius

[smoky blaze]

You mean enemy attack range? Otherwise why do you even need info about the enemy hitboxes?

Care to share maybe?

[steel prairie]

for example Taluhah fire hits in a cross shape attack... like a + sign... hence why I see multiple of my units burning and not just one

but I dont find the cross hit on the map

or any info of it

[elder flume]

Info about enemy skills are either in PRTS or Aceship

[smoky blaze]

Uhh thats just her skill burning breath my lads. It target two of your last deploy ops

[elder flume]

If you dont see it in PRTS then most likely youre in the wrong ver e.g. youre viewing npc not enemy or wrong stage or its a stage effect not enemy effect etc

[steel prairie]

wait so it targets TWO of your ops ???

not a cross fire effect ???

[elder flume]

The cross is for when they are already burned

Forgot if she only targets 1 in that stage or 2

But she targets last deployed to burn them > then explode them into a cross shape seconds after

[steel prairie]

it does show where she walks and such but not her attacks and such and her fire effect

[south spindle]

pretty sure all abilities are on wiki at the very least

[smoky blaze]

It targets two of your last deploy ops
I dont remember anything about the cross fire effect.

[steel prairie]

its stated but only numbers and not the effects... the after effects... etc

but I did do the dps calculation and its definetly not enough (not even close)

[south spindle]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Deathless_Black_Snake/Enemy

JT8-3?

[steel prairie]

no 8-2

[steel prairie]

atleast it tells me I have to face her AGAIN

[south spindle]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/JT8-2

Oops ruined the surprise

lol

[cedar needle]

JT8-2 doesn't seem to do cross fire

Also only targets 1 op with the burn

[steel prairie]

only one ??? you sure ??? because I am seeing atleast 2 of my Ops getting burned alive

[smoky blaze]

[south spindle]

No the burn is two operators

[steel prairie]

because I placed Lin and CHen next to each other and both caught on fire

[south spindle]

wait

nvm

wrong talulah let me recheck

[brisk surge]

welcome back light

[south spindle]

it shouldn't be two at once

its 30 seconds with 19 second cool down

[cedar needle]

The burn takes really long to wear off by itself so if she uses the skill a second time you can get 2 burning ops

[south spindle]

hi max

[smoky blaze]

Burning breath deals dot to your units (idr the numbers) and it last for 30s iirc.
After that is done. She will cast another one soon after.
Still targetting the last two deploy ops

[elder flume]

Ye detonate shows range but not for that stage

[steel prairie]

where did you find that ???

[smoky blaze]

So to cheese it. You can find her burning breath timing and deply gravel + yato and let them take the burning breath. Then immediately retreat them.
Thats how I did back then with gladia chen carry

[elder flume]

Its JT8-3 Talulah which is later

[smoky blaze]

Prts

[south spindle]

they're on JT8-2

[steel prairie]

ik but what website is that ???

[south spindle]

PRTS wiki

[elder flume]

PRTS indeed

[steel prairie]

really ??? how is his so white ???

[cedar needle]

Yea I just tested in game, JT8-2 only burns 1 op per cast

[south spindle]

PRTS wiki is white by default...

[smoky blaze]

My lads. Dont be confuse wiki.gg with prts.wiki
Those two are different

[steel prairie]

oh wait I got PRTS and PRTS.MAP mixed up... I thought they are same sorce

ok now ic

[smoky blaze]

Different mom same dad

[steel prairie]

ayo ?

[cedar needle]

Eblanani's advice still applies tho, bring a fast redeploy and retreat them as soon as they get burnt

Fast redeploy has 18s redeployment cd, burn is 19s, so you can bait all burn with 1 fast redeploy

Bring 2 fast redeploys if you are afraid you mistime their retreats

[steel prairie]

thoo... is there anyway to google translate PRTS tho ?

[cedar needle]

What rain showed was google translate I believe?

[elder flume]

My phone can auto translate but my laptop cant

[steel prairie]

I think he said that the wiki was english

[steel prairie]

oh.. Im on PC so I guess mines couldnt

[smoky blaze]

Prts have a setting to turn everything into eng rain

[cedar needle]

Wiki.gg is English
Prts is CN that you can google translate
Mapark is... it kinda has English support?

[smoky blaze]

Three bars on the left and scroll down

[elder flume]

When i turned it to English it just translates the UI but not the chinese texts themselves hmm

Will show later

Im on bus

[smoky blaze]

It takes a while usually

[south spindle]

Wait it translates everything for you on mobile?

[elder flume]

Ye mobile supremacy

[steel prairie]

ah thx... tho still a good portion is Chinese (man I regret forfeiting that language)

[south spindle]

Wtf

I just opened on my phone its true

[smoky blaze]

Mobile and eng setting works. Ye
(Below is mobile ss)

[brisk surge]

just read mandarin light

[steel prairie]

bruh wtf is this against the PC master race lol

[brisk surge]

[smoky blaze]

You will find some funny translation tho

[steel prairie]

ik but its better to get a rough idea

[smoky blaze]

I wish I could read in mandarin. So much doujin ops info that I cant read

[steel prairie]

but regardless my unit does not have enough dps (and not enough hp) to survive most late game chapters

[south spindle]

man... im too old for this 🥀

even forgetting the very few kanji i learned

[steel prairie]

meanwhile Im young and struggled language class super hard

to the point that I did.... uhhh jumped

[elder flume]

When you learned 5 languages but kept using all of them together in the same sentence accidentally

[steel prairie]

atleast you have a better future than me... Im literally mentally disabled

[smoky blaze]

Hmm.. do you guys thinking on other languages when you master more than 2 languages?

[violet sorrel]

heeeeelp

[steel prairie]

yes... tho I didnt master any languages

[cedar needle]

Abuse roadblocks to make enemies move back and forth till firework is ready

[brisk surge]

3 is the minimum in my country so

ye

[smoky blaze]

[violet sorrel]

like, make em walk very faar? or redeploying roadblocks

[cedar needle]

Redeploying roadblocks

[elder flume]

Redeploying will make them walk far yes

This setup is pretty far

[cedar needle]

You make them walk almost to the blue box
Retreat one roadblock on the other side of blue box, and block their current route
They now have to walk across the map to get to that other side
Rinse and repeat

[dusky hawk]

I’m about to try the point of no return

Also where should I put things

[steel prairie]

is that late chapter ???

like 14 ?

[dusky hawk]

It’s IS

[eternal rapids]

That's IS

[steel prairie]

oh

btw so it seems like Amiya changes to her sword unit automatically after 8-2.. but does that mean we no longer have caster Amiya ???

[dusky hawk]

Huh? I’ve done 8-2 and idk what ur talking abt

[desert prairie]

youre screwed btw

[elder flume]

You can switch between classes in operator

[desert prairie]

you have nothing to deal with the boss

[dusky hawk]

How so

[dusky hawk]

I have Wis

[desert prairie]

boss have 50% dodge

[eternal rapids]

Can't they just bait out the teleport and pray Wis burst phantom down

[desert prairie]

3 wis shot only deal like less than half

unless they have cracked relic

[elder flume]

Its fine
Wis does too much damage that if 1 hits its going to deal a lot

[desert prairie]

i hope they dont have to 2 cycle

[eternal rapids]

Boss breaks roadblock and might die to leak

[desert prairie]

how much hp do you have?

depends how much hp they have

[dusky hawk]

4

[desert prairie]

maybe left can be ignored, right side gets killed by redeployed SA and a blocker

hmm

[elder flume]

Wis on Pozy spot face right to nuke boss early is good

[desert prairie]

yeah youre screwed

they have pozy?

[elder flume]

The usual Pozy spot

[desert prairie]

oh pozy spot

[elder flume]

I dont have map open so i cant really tell where

Its not like its A15 anyway

[elder flume]

Thats not Pozy spot

[desert prairie]

eeee

[elder flume]

Nanashi fell fr

[desert prairie]

i usually schwarz there

and it looks gud for type

[elder flume]

The spot that allows Pozy to immediately attack Phantom while being safe

[elder flume]

When he spawned

Ye

[dusky hawk]

I lost 😭 I killed everyone but 1 person 😦

[elder flume]

1 to the left of that prob

[desert prairie]

i hate this spot since some shots get redirected to clowns

but eh

its wis

[dusky hawk]

What is the best starting thing?

[desert prairie]

IS2 class carry

[desert prairie]

oh you havent unlocked them

leader is generally the safest

[summer meteor]

S5 IS ARSE

D:

[maiden hound]

What?

[south spindle]

PV-S-5 probably

Arf has a low end guide

[elder flume]

Not for normal sadly

Just CM

[south spindle]

Oh well Kyostin uploaded

[elder flume]

He did normal?

[south spindle]

S-5 normal and CM

[oak sedge]

is there an easy way to beat JT8-3

[south spindle]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Su-7odeSKq4

[elder flume]

NG or Logos S3

Shu also good

[oak sedge]

who's NG

[elder flume]

Nightingale

[south spindle]

Nightingale

[oak sedge]

don't have her, ill try borrowing logos

[south spindle]

-# you didnt see that edit

Logos S3

Slows down projectiles

[elder flume]

You want the skill to end right as all fireballs are done firinh

[south spindle]

Yeah so just activate it a little early

Right as phase begins

And you might want to also use a FDR to just eat some of the fire balls

[elder flume]

Contrail can avoid fireballs but who would need such knowledge

[south spindle]

Really? Crazy tech

Will gravel be able to take multiple fireballs after logos slows them down?

[elder flume]

E1 Gravel prob tanks 3 if the first hit is immediate

4 actually

[south spindle]

I was hoping she could just eat a bunch (7-8) at once but guess not

[steel prairie]

uhhh so how am I suppose to beat this ??? also it seams like she can target 3 Ops

[south spindle]

Logos or Nightingale

[elder flume]

Well we are talking about it rn

[south spindle]

Read up a little

[maiden hound]

This is a year 2 stage, you can even beat it with year 2 operators.

[brittle mesa]

What you think about this for city 66?

[south spindle]

Uh might need a few more operators... but Ascalon is pretty useful

[elder flume]

Scavenger out
Why only 6 ops

[south spindle]

But E1 Lvl 20 hard to say how good

[elder flume]

You want a pusher for top lane

[brittle mesa]

I’ll also borrow thorns

[elder flume]

Tldr JT8-3 ignore Talulah and keep baiting 2 burns until she goes next to blue box where you can block and do damage

Be prepared for funi fireball when she dies

[steel prairie]

uhhh any tips on how to stay alive while keeping the hordes at bay ???

how am I suppose to bait... do I retreat when she about to do the cross fire ???

[cedar needle]

Deploy baits
See them get burnt
Immediately retreat
Redeploy them again as soon as their redeployment cd is up

[civic bear]

You bait the attack where she light up two units

[desert prairie]

Nightingale and mousse

[civic bear]

The cross attack only explode burnt target

But if you bait properly then the only burnt op are the one tanking her hits

[desert prairie]

send your availablle ops

there has to be a combination to beat talu

[thick kiln]

Hello which module good for chen?

[final obsidian]

Mod X

[south spindle]

I hope you haven't already built her and are just asking ahead of time

😅

[thick kiln]

I already e2 her

Can't decide which is mostly use for her module

[south spindle]

Welp if you got nothing better to do

ModX

If you have other operators uh would prob prio them first

[thick kiln]

The Rhodes island module? The sp recovery?

[final obsidian]

Ye

[south spindle]

If you joined this server when you started playing you probably have better things to level
But if you just like her for the character by all means

[thick kiln]

Ok thankyou very much ♥️

[steel prairie]

ok smth is not right with my boss fight... my Taluhuh is burning 3 ops at once

I did 2 baits but she ended up doing 3 burns... smth is not right

even checked Kyos video and Im somehow getting 3 burns

[elder flume]

Any chance for you to record?

When Talu swings her sword it will burn the ground op she hits

So thats +1

And if she detonates and theres an op in the cross then the burn spreads

The 2 burn is 19s cooldown
Im guessing you retreated the 2 burnt frd too late that when you redeploy them again its past another 19s so she only counts 1 rdp as last deployed and the other rdp is too late to be targeted

But without recording i cant conclude

[astral cosmos]

yes but I didn't buy them

[steel prairie]

is there anyone else thats fast as Gavel on redeply ???

[astral cosmos]

phantom with IS mod teknikali has like 5s rdp time for his clone if he constantly hits

[brittle mesa]

What you think about this for city 66? I’ll also borrow Mudrock

I’m also thinking to upgrade Ifrit to E2 and specialize her S2 to M3. Though is that how unnecessary?

[keen gull]

U can brrw e2 ascalon bro she straight up solo the middle

[maiden hound]

All Executor Specialists.

[steel prairie]

ok on 8-3 I have a bigger problem... which melee Ops can deal with these bastards ?

[rich plover]

What's the timing of Lappland using her drones in PV EX 8 (CM)?

[slim wyvern]

Three block ops with AoE like centurions would be ideal since they tend to spawn at the same time as the dogs which can cause potentially leaks with anything lower.

[rich plover]

Reapers can be good

[rich plover]

Jaye

If we talking 4*

Yato is also technically a fast redeploy

[maiden hound]

(both of them)

[rich plover]

Crownslayer can be used (lol, lmao even)

A bit more expensive, but usable

When do I bait out Lappland's drone attacks?

[dawn citrus]

Yall. If I sub Kroos here with Lappland, it'll work just the same, right?

[astral cosmos]

nvm i figured s 5 cm out with kal

[astral cosmos]

make sure she kills the aerial enemies but ya

[south spindle]

Wtf is that a bug

Why did the truck go through

[elder flume]

What truck

[south spindle]

they deleted; was posted in help

it was E1 lappland

and the -1 block indicator was really hard to see so i thought it was bugged

[elder flume]

Ye E1 wants P5

[south spindle]

24% downtime

rip

[elder flume]

Some things will slow and fast Lapp attackd

Forgot what it was

Oh it was S2 on 2 targets

Doing melee attacks on S2 is faster

[south spindle]

huh interesting was not aware

[elder flume]

Ye with ranged on 2 enemies you have to use projectile

If shes blocking 1 with another in range then she does melee and it turns into hitscan

Removing projectile travel

[south spindle]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/0oca6h6lwo

@wicked minnow I didn't do research on how exactly the damage ramps but close enough
Pot5 is toggle, mod3 built in

[south spindle]

Interesting well thats pretty cool

[elder flume]

I have a gif of it from 5 years ago somewhere in chat

[shell arch]

"How many chalter walter & elite sniper relics do you need? "

"Yes. "

150 aspd made walter perma stun enemies

[fair estuary]

I'm in need if help on pv s5

Sometimes my unit ded, other times I don't have enough dps

https://www.krooster.com/u/awesome-honey-snail-55mx

My krooster btw

[south spindle]

Who are you borrowing

[fair estuary]

Wisandel

[south spindle]

Ah I suppose that works but if units are dying just Eyjalter it

The tricky part of this stage is balancing timing

[fair estuary]

Me no have enough damage when use eyja alter

[south spindle]

You want to make the fireworks die as lappland jumps to your units

You definitely have enough damage Mlynar Ela Surtr definitely delete Lappland P2 in one cycle

[shell arch]

Mlynar chalter but only activate their skill when you win against lappy deeznuts on carnival contest

[south spindle]

P1 is non issue do however speed

Come vc if you wanna be backseated into doing this fast

[fair estuary]

The thing is girl jump to dodge the attack

[south spindle]

Yes you need to time carnival end

[fair estuary]

I mean move

[south spindle]

So that lappland jumps infront your firing squad as the carnival ends

[fair estuary]

Can someone show me the rotation?

[south spindle]

Mlynar surtr Ela S3

Uh so you see the 5 middle undeployables? black/yellow tiles that form a triangle

She starts at like the top middle one

and goes counter clockwise

you want to delay the carnival from dying until shes at the bottom right

so she jumps to top right and you blast her with everyone

you only get 20 seconds of reduction down

[fair estuary]

Also should I swap one of them? Yat alter or tex alter?

[south spindle]

You don't need honey berry

or Gravel or Lappland or Spot

[fair estuary]

What about Yat alter and tex alter?

[south spindle]

Keep texalt

[fair estuary]

Dump Yat alter?

[south spindle]

Ye

S2 texas

take Ela and Surtr

[fair estuary]

Like this?

[south spindle]

This stage is just about tweaking your plan little by little

Idk how much chalter will do tbh range is a little awkward hm

[wooden blaze]

Man, I really hate the PV-S-5.

It took me 2 days to beat it and cm stage.

The timing was big problem I had.

[south spindle]

its not that bad after you figure out how it works

it is a timing thing

P2 is the hard part but the important thing is just abusing immortality and

blocking the fire dancers at a distance and control the carnival dying

[wooden blaze]

Nah, those weren't even problem for me.

[south spindle]

like stop them from killing the carnival too fast

[shell arch]

Yeah PV-S-5 is quite hard to afk. Can't imagine the normal, non rarity abuse clear for that stage

[wooden blaze]

I was just having problem killing Lappland before she exist.

[fair estuary]

Kyo dod it

[south spindle]

4 4* record on Billibili

[maiden hound]

Low ops is not low effort.

[south spindle]

there is always a child in china better than you at everything

🚬

[dusky hawk]

Bro

[shell arch]

Yeah i copied kyo. He used shu virtuosa eyjaberry for that stage
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