strategy

[still vessel]

Gladi > ulpi then cause I’d take dmg res

Over the stat buff

Imo

[next wigeon]

I like both Strats in all honesty

[shell arch]

Need t3 to earn buff (andreana)
Rng round 2 relic need AH (if you don't you need reroll)
Hard early round experience

[next wigeon]

Ulpi is more risky ya

But it pays off

[still vessel]

How early we talking

[shell arch]

Like round 8 and less

[still vessel]

Cause rounds 1-4 are quite literally the same no matter the strat

[next wigeon]

Its hard before getting Ulpianus

[still vessel]

4-8 are where it gets rng dependent

[shell arch]

See?

[next wigeon]

Its a good squad

[still vessel]

If you don’t get ulpi/glad before round 8 you reset

[shell arch]

On hole squad you literally slap t5 and solo round 6-8

[next wigeon]

You can guarantee a win if you don't blunder and gamba paid off

[still vessel]

If you get both before round 10 with some adreanas then it’s guaranteed win

[next wigeon]

Gladiia is for more stable ig?

[still vessel]

Gladi gives dmg res I like it more but their both similar

[next wigeon]

Ya

[still vessel]

I dont actively go for ah comp tho

[next wigeon]

I just like the extra atk

Ulpianus shreds with Sp Regen Items

[still vessel]

If you get lucky it’s guaranteed win if not I just run caster core

And I usually get very far or win with like 4 piths

[next wigeon]

I just need to run 2 more Foundation Runs

For last Medal

My brain cells melting during Core kekw

[still vessel]

I like this gamemode

Takes some strat

[prisma elk]

I just realized, a bunch of shus might actually be super good in stronghold, just stalling everyone till the poison kills them lmao

[shell arch]

If you want peak AH experience, use mlynar AH relic + permanent AH atk & hp

He hits hard
4.6k atk after def dmg reduction on wave 12 enemies

[still vessel]

The best strat is to have multiple strats

[royal rose]

Problem is Tier VI units are not good enough on their own

[still vessel]

That way your runs are less rng dependent and you can switch on the fly

[royal rose]

You need triple Tier VI units

Which is an absurdly high ask

[next wigeon]

Use Mylnar with M3 Armour and Claw

[royal rose]

And great equipment in pairs

[shell arch]

Literally just use kinky snek woman

[royal rose]

Which is basically impossible to obtain

[next wigeon]

But they are

[royal rose]

De

[somber falcon]

They're more than enough lol

[still vessel]

Talking about t6v

[royal rose]

Ew

[still vessel]

T6 is more than enough

[royal rose]

Nah

[shell arch]

You'll start using t6 at round 8 with kinky snek woman

[still vessel]

Oh I was able to barge lvl5 at round6

[royal rose]

And you need good equipment too

[prisma elk]

You probably cheated the game to be so bad at it fr

[still vessel]

Idk if I can do it again tho

[royal rose]

Like, amazing stuff

And inn pairs

[somber falcon]

Most clears above have 0 promoted t6

[royal rose]

So you need great equipment in good tier

[royal rose]

DoesnMt look like that to me

[prisma elk]

Nah you just cheating to be so bad

[full terrace]

@pure orchid Full 70 Life Points untouched Core Protocol, no Wis no Logos

[somber falcon]

Doesn't look like you used your eyes

[next wigeon]

You can get a T6 by getting 3 of T3, 4 or 5 ops

[shell arch]

See? This guy has unpromoted t6

[somber falcon]

Perfect timing, here's an example

[still vessel]

Unpromoted everything

[shell arch]

Lmao the universe really hates g combustion take

[next wigeon]

Arf did unpromoted stuff

[still vessel]

lol

[royal rose]

He has Elite Mechanist

[still vessel]

Look at items

He has 1 upgraded item the others are tier 1

[next wigeon]

The world is making a huge point

[shell arch]

Elite this elite that, elite deeznuts

[next wigeon]

Mechanist doesn't deal dmg

[somber falcon]

He's not even promoted lmao

[shell arch]

"ok but he has promoted kazemaru!"

[next wigeon]

Ya he's at E1

[full terrace]

Key is to do lots of AoE damage, I threw the Initial SP Relic at Ascalon and watch the world burns

And double Reed there helps with the AoE, while also healing

[still vessel]

Pith does good aoe dmg and the buffs stack

Caster is quite literally free win

[shell arch]

Ok but he's using ascalon! I don't have her, therefore you need hack to win core SP!

[brave sun]

have you tried being a wisser

[royal rose]

I have Ascalon, actually

[still vessel]

The only issue with using assist ops is that the healers are kinda useless

[shell arch]

I don't

[royal rose]

What the hell do assist ops even do?

[next wigeon]

Kinda ya

[royal rose]

Just chill in the undeployment zone?

[brave sun]

volcano shit

[still vessel]

They’re the beginner units for newbs who don’t have all the other units

[next wigeon]

Anything that isn't Kazi, AH or Karlan is Assist Ops faction

[shell arch]

Speaking of assist op, why is eyjafjalla an assist op

She literally is a walking volcano

[still vessel]

She is? Maybe if you have her she can be the good healer

[somber falcon]

Assist is just everyone outside the 3 factions

[next wigeon]

Eyja not Eyjaberry

[shell arch]

[still vessel]

Op

[limpid ore]

Eyja1

[still vessel]

Nvm then

Fuck I just want a good healer man

[next wigeon]

Even then Eyjaberry S1 wouldn't charge in time unless using Sp Items

[still vessel]

It’s fine I just run AH

No need healer

[somber falcon]

Perma skills sucks ass here

Too small of a map

[shell arch]

Oh right how's l*ng on SP? I haven't tried summoners

[somber falcon]

Summons doesn't scale

[still vessel]

Yeah the single lanes suck

[shell arch]

But does her summon take deploy limit?

[somber falcon]

Probably

[next wigeon]

Perhaps

[shell arch]

Wdym probably, you haven't tried?

[somber falcon]

Nope

[prisma elk]

I could test it if y'all need confirmation

[elder flume]

they do

[next wigeon]

I don't have Ling

[elder flume]

i use Mag

[still vessel]

Who’s gonna use ling in stronghold

[shell arch]

Wtf I thought you guys tried, you're just making stuff up like me in #help!

[prisma elk]

I would, probably

[still vessel]

[shell arch]

Also how's w OG s2 with 2s stun bomb & 0.25 sp equipment? Sounds good in paper

[somber falcon]

Who

[still vessel]

Honestly tho if you wanna run abyssal squad id take kal over ulpi/gladi as commander

[somber falcon]

Oh w

[odd badge]

question about this boss, does the reduced damage only work when blocked, thus I should avoid making her block someone and just use ranged ops? or does it work regardless whether shes getting blocked or not, so I should have my DPS blocking and attacking this tanky bitch.

[still vessel]

Allows you to switch to sniper/caster core easier and the stat buffs/ enemy debuffs are similar

[shell arch]

Embrace kinky snek women and use t6 in round 8

[glass monolith]

Are there reasons to not just Kal commander each time especially on Core difficulty?

[prisma elk]

Ling S2 with Stun Bomb and Strong Tea tier two?

[still vessel]

No just run kal. Every run is kal run for me

Ez win

[prisma elk]

Ngl that does sound good on paper for perma stall...

[glass monolith]

It is reduced damage from sources which don't block her

[somber falcon]

15% kinda 🤏 to me

[elder flume]

i pray for your dp if you use Ling S1 S2

[shell arch]

She has dmg reduction from every source unless from the blocker

Therefore the blocker must:
Deal huge dmg
Be sustained

Virtuosa helps bypassing DR

[glass monolith]

I more care for enemy HP cut

[still vessel]

Yeah but since it’s a buff and a debuff it’s like double

[elder flume]

2 Jaye already kills themselves due to dp shortage

[somber falcon]

Only on tutorial diff

[next wigeon]

I do Ulpianus Strat (Under the Depths) for mine or SilverAsh Strat (Corporate Management)

[glass monolith]

[odd badge]

I was helidropping Surtr, Nearlter, Mon3ter, yalter and Specter Alter on this bitch and it still wont die, I have massive brain damage, Shouldve have used Ulpian

[keen gull]

I lost cuz i didnt have ulpi for red dude

[still vessel]

What round

[keen gull]

17

[next wigeon]

You can solo her with Zuo Le

[still vessel]

No ulpi round 17

Fucked

[keen gull]

Bro steamrolled my caster wall

[glass monolith]

Fucked is Pompei with 2x max HP per round count buff on round fucking 20

[still vessel]

Issue with ah comp you need decent rng.

[shell arch]

That's because you need to sustain the attacker by using medic
Gnosus helps in freezing that croc maiden so she deals less dmg

Freezing is -20 res so sustain vivi is a thing

[keen gull]

I didnt go ah comp🥹

[somber falcon]

Enemies in entry protocol

[still vessel]

Ye but in you still needed ulpi which is like 1/8

[glass monolith]

She gains damage each attack until stunned

[shell arch]

My personal favorite is zuole solo + virtuosa + gnosis against that croc maiden

[glass monolith]

Sniper squad here I go

[shell arch]

With logosdeeznuts and nymph it should be faster

[still vessel]

Still not getting ulpi by round 17 is just straight up rng issue

[keen gull]

Ye it sucks🥀

[somber falcon]

Pew pew

[next wigeon]

Did combustion clear Core yet?

[still vessel]

Did you punch your monitor

[next wigeon]

They need to do it 3 times for the Medal

[keen gull]

Nop

[still vessel]

I woulda

[shell arch]

No he's busy finding hacks

[somber falcon]

He's probably gonna combust first

[keen gull]

Ima just play another round

[still vessel]

That’s like 11 rerolls per round if you have +1 fund item

[keen gull]

I recruited all casters💀

No ulpi tho

[still vessel]

And no ulpi is like 1 in 8 to the 11th power

1/8^11

Insane luck

[still vessel]

Oh

Well still bad luck

[keen gull]

I think ima

Do another strat

Caster++

[next wigeon]

Do Lin + Atkspd

[terse sierra]

Yeah, because you want to let Logos shine.

[next wigeon]

Can Lin get atkspd anyway?

[still vessel]

Instead of ulpi you can run double gladi for semi inf stall

[keen gull]

Nah ima do round 24🫡

[shell arch]

Why not?

[still vessel]

Not ideal tho

[still vessel]

How are you gonna stall it out

If you win rounds it ends and if you lose it ends

[next wigeon]

By stalling it out

[still vessel]

Need to lose like 1hp per round

[keen gull]

By strategically leaking🫡

[still vessel]

GL

[next wigeon]

Reroll Kazi

Get the drones ya

[still vessel]

Some people love torturing themselves

[keen gull]

I kill the drones tho💀

[still vessel]

[next wigeon]

Noob is stalling it out by only leaking Drones

[sharp pine]

Bruh is caster even the best archetype

[still vessel]

Yes

Why wouldn’t it be

You get 30% res ignore

From an item

[sharp pine]

I can't seem to get it going

[royal rose]

Caster is good

If you can get past the first five tiers being garbage

So Caster is good as a crown jewel

[still vessel]

Honestly if you aren’t using your own ops the only good caster is pith

[keen gull]

Doing well so far

[shell arch]

You leak but not much
By killing the boss and leak 2-3 enemies

I've had 23 rounds once

[shell arch]

Ew green fossil squad

[still vessel]

Yeah i got it. But why would you torture urself

[keen gull]

I dont play hoe squad ew

[still vessel]

Actively trying to drag out the run

[sharp pine]

My typical run

[shell arch]

It's not like I wanted to play 23 rounds wtf, pompeii kept killing my squad and that bozo slug got permastalled by ulpianus

[still vessel]

[shell arch]

Kinky snek woman is literally broken

[sharp pine]

Do ppl trigger the 6 op ah buff?

[still vessel]

Yes

[royal rose]

This seems like a huge problem

When you only get access to a good caster at Tier V

[still vessel]

It’s easy since adrea is t3

[glass monolith]

Give AH hat to everyone

[shell arch]

I do but only bring 5 stinky fish AHsquad
1 more is from equipping the relic. Usually hoshi/mlynar

[sharp pine]

How do u even get multiple

[royal rose]

Andreana is a waste of money though

[glass monolith]

Get lucky in random BS shop

[still vessel]

Yes it’s 1 gladi 1 ulpi 2 adr and 1 with hat

[royal rose]

Literally useless

[sharp pine]

Bruh

[shell arch]

Gladi ulpi spalter specter andreana

[sharp pine]

That's only 5

[somber falcon]

one with device

[shell arch]

1 more is from relic equip

[still vessel]

Forgot specter

[somber falcon]

or just get dupe

andreana and spec right there

t3 and t4

[still vessel]

Or spalter

Either or

[somber falcon]

[shell arch]

[still vessel]

I forgot about specter

[glass monolith]

Welcome to Auto chess and why I hate them. Either you get lucky, or you get rolled. Or you get lucky but enemy luckied harder so you rolled anyway

[still vessel]

Since I’m only borrowing all the ah units

[still vessel]

Enemy luck is real

They get like res buff and it’s stupid

[shell arch]

Andreana spec are kinda bad tho

[still vessel]

Good slow application

[somber falcon]

spec kinda
andreana fine

use s2

[shell arch]

But just don't bring skadi
Worst mistake of my life

[still vessel]

Nice dmg but it’s a t3

You get what you get

[glass monolith]

Want stupid? Double HP buff freeze attackers. I literally can't kill casters/archers before they freeze everyone

[still vessel]

Why are you playing freeze

Instant reset

[shell arch]

Use aoe to spawncamp bottom route

[still vessel]

I don’t hate myself

[sharp pine]

Someone got a video I can copy?

Where's Kyo?

[somber falcon]

nah, bring her
18% atk buff

[shell arch]

You need to kill spoders before reaching your blockers

Lappland works but later on, too many spoders

[still vessel]

Skadi kinda useless

[glass monolith]

Which part of FREEZE I didn't elaborate enough?

[glass monolith]

Freeze Caster and Freeze Archer are unsilenceable

[somber falcon]

also 1 block would help a lot if she caught on elite/boss

[still vessel]

I will never play against freeze

[glass monolith]

Do it for enemy info

[maiden hound]

Just play BI

[shell arch]

Blockers and tanks on top
Ranged on bottom
Bottom enemies are weak. Check enemy. They'll die

[shell arch]

Also losmontis is very useless on that map

[still vessel]

Worst map too

[glass monolith]

They have TWO multiplicative HP growth buffs. I can't even kill freeze spiders before they reach end of middle lane

[still vessel]

Entire lane just disabled

[somber falcon]

simply lapp e2

[still vessel]

Or

Hear me out

Don’t play against freeze

[sharp pine]

Any1?

[still vessel]

Uhhh bleck said he was gonna make one

[shell arch]

Bottom enemies are weak against ranged attacks. They'll die from unpromoted chalter
Deploy blockers on top or bottom rightmost to bait ranged freezing casters

[still vessel]

Idk if he still is

[bitter halo]

its only the third round

[shell arch]

You NEED to kill spoders before they reach bottom lane
Bait those frezing caster attacks so they don't kill your ranged ops by deploying tank on top lane

[still vessel]

These are the better enemies

[shell arch]

Candle knights are common. They'll die of cringe once timer runs out since they walk very slow

[sharp pine]

[still vessel]

Recording a run is easy

Making a guide is not

Because of how rng dependent this mode is

There’s general tips/strategies but no set guide

[bitter halo]

thats what happened

[shell arch]

Hole squad set guide. Get t6 at round 7-8

[glass monolith]

Who don't have those 5 enemies infos by end of event will be shamed

[still vessel]

I don’t and will never have glacial archer

[shell arch]

Those are unique?

[somber falcon]

they're the elites ye

[shell arch]

[glass monolith]

Yes, they are only in this event

[fathom pivot]

Someone help.
PV-S-5 is demolishing me.

[still vessel]

Stacked comp

[somber falcon]

shu s3

[shell arch]

Do you have
Logosdeeznuts
Eyjaberry
Virtuosa
Ulpianus
Gladiia?

[still vessel]

[bitter halo]

ok lost to 4th round. I got too greedy and upgraded shop

[still vessel]

Losing early is good

[somber falcon]

he doesn't even need those

[still vessel]

Barely lose like 4 hp

[fathom pivot]

Logosdeeznuts
Eyjaberry
Virtuosa
Ulpianus
Gladiia ✅ (but not built ofc)

[still vessel]

Just don’t lose past round 6 or so

[shell arch]

How did you lose at 4 round? Insider squad who has 30 starting hp has 18 hp at that time

[shell arch]

Oof. Kyostinv used them on pv-s-5 cm

[still vessel]

He didn’t really lose I think probably just lost the round and some hp

[fathom pivot]

Cm?

[still vessel]

Normal only needs like Wis and good defenders

[somber falcon]

shu on top solo lane
mountain and gav hold mobs
wis blast lapp
kal true dmg when she comes down

[bitter halo]

i only had gitano and beagle for 2 lanes idk

[fathom pivot]

👍 thanks

[still vessel]

Did you lose the entire run or just the round

[somber falcon]

shu s3 to say fuck you to teleport

[bitter halo]

only 1 round but i reset bc i hate losing

[still vessel]

Wtf

[somber falcon]

you're gonna reset a lot

[still vessel]

You want to lose hp

[somber falcon]

a lot

[shell arch]

You need to leak to get t6 (t5 if you use kinky snek woman squad) asap

Kinky snek woman squad can get t6 op at round 7

[still vessel]

1-2 is only guaranteed not hp loss

[bitter halo]

okay then

[still vessel]

You sacrifice like 4hp go to get t5-6 shop at round 8

(Actually more like 10hp but wtv)

[shell arch]

Btw if you guys get this map, don't buy losmontis
She's useless in this map

[still vessel]

Reset if you get this map

I hate it

[shell arch]

It's doable if you have sniper squad. I cheesed it with a sniper squad once

[still vessel]

Sniper can reach top lane yh but other than that it’s subpar

The bow-tie map or the regular 3 lane map is best

[shell arch]

Chalter Walter spawncamping at bottom lane while sriaa mlynar etc blocks ranged enemy atk:

[full terrace]

Here is a Wis carry clear but with hellish timing #strategy message

[still vessel]

He doesn’t have low end comp….

Like the other guys said just defender each lane and wis/kal dps boss

[full terrace]

And here is a simulation with someone's high-end squad, adjust accordingly #strategy message

[full terrace]

It doesnt matter. If he has better units thats even better. If weak units can work, strong units can work even better, thats the logic behind Low-End.

[fathom pivot]

thanks

[full terrace]

You are welcome

[still vessel]

Ye but some people will take guides literally

[somber falcon]

making sure your 8 hrs worth every second, huh?

[fathom pivot]

this squad should be easy enough

to make*

[full terrace]

Thats on them for not thinking, I handhold but I aint lifting their legs to walk for them.

[full terrace]

😂

[rich plover]

What's the stitch for PV S 4?

[rapid junco]

What's amigo doing here

[still vessel]

Just replace roles you don’t NEED each op if you have better redeploy than gravel replace same with defenders if you have better ops replace

[somber falcon]

which one was it again

i forgot layout

[full terrace]

S4 is pretty free

It's EX-1 but different flavor

[rich plover]

The one with the carts going from the right

[somber falcon]

oh

ye just logos or lutonada

for right side

[rich plover]

Does Luto have to be E2?

[somber falcon]

ye

[full terrace]

Think so

[rich plover]

Should I use my E2 ticket on her

[full terrace]

Idk if Luto works on S stages tho, coz +20% stats

But worth a try

[still vessel]

Anyways I’m retiring for the night

[somber falcon]

probably not

still doesn't quite worth it

[rich plover]

Then I'll just manually power her up then

[somber falcon]

unless you really like her

[rich plover]

Logos it is

[full terrace]

Left side you need quite a bit of AoE btw

Most S stages are dps check

[keen gull]

Round 20 clear

[somber falcon]

oh you have naran
might worth a try with her s1 since they circle around

[keen gull]

I thought itll be round 21 but eh

[rich plover]

Naran for the right side?

[somber falcon]

yeah

[full terrace]

Naran should work like a charm for the exploding mini cars yeah

[rich plover]

Yea the only issue is the left side

[somber falcon]

if naran works for right, you can borrow virt

or kal

or vina

[rich plover]

"Just yeet a Wisadel ovah there"

[somber falcon]

90% dr

[glass monolith]

Sir they have +1340% HP

[rich plover]

Bruh, the lead dancers got me

Not enough time for the Carnavale

[keen gull]

Go castsr squad🫡

[rich plover]

What skill btw

[somber falcon]

s3 would be better here

since you get bumrushed

and the car go straight to blue box

[rich plover]

Yea I just yeet a wisadel

Thanks Ines

Now onto PV S5

So it's a harder PV EX 8 then?

Oh right, it's still the same Lappland boss just with extra stats right?

[pure orchid]

No faction/class buff too wtf

[prisma elk]

Hey, really stupid question, but does s3 ulpipi hit air???

[somber falcon]

No

[prisma elk]

Ok good thank you

[full terrace]

Maybe sometimes he could throw that anchor at a bird

Then he will hit air

[keen gull]

Actually i think i can leak like the first few

[brisk surge]

@south spindle

[elder flume]

today i learn that Kafka S1 can be cancelled

if you put her under 8 moving trucks

[versed arrow]

I just tried defenderknights in stronghold, it was going well till I see the jetpack boss. he keep jetpack away from my dps zones. Anyway just curious, what skill do you ppl select on your defender ops? like for example, I see the default skill is s3 on hoshi in preset, I switched it to s2 but I wondered if s3 is the better skill for the gamemode.

[elder flume]

i prefer S3 for if i go claw

and the recover hp per attack

[next wigeon]

Uh huh
#strategy message

[prisma elk]

Bruh can anyone explain wtf just happened with bloodknight

[next wigeon]

As long as you have the Elite Sniper Set, Andreana will good

[elder flume]

if teleported into unreachable spot and theres a stair path > forward self to stair path

im guessing he got teleported back to Hoshi tile and pushed down to the edge of tile > unreachable state > teleport to end stair

wonder if i have a vid on it hm

[next wigeon]

Magic

[prisma elk]

Atleast I can keep note of it next time, it sucks for fucks sake lmao

[elder flume]

damn i dont have it on Youtube

[prisma elk]

Welp, new wtf clip on AK I guess lmao, I'll still post it as a funny Shu breaks the game again bug

[elder flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1129983825661931571/1-12_W_wall_teleporting_bug.gif?ex=6822c1f2&is=68217072&hm=04d0e0151d259c32ebb8bbb7b4c428040f86f1a8cc11dc783cd388a5b41cb4e5&

thats the original

[azure roost]

whale

[azure roost]

oh that shift teleport on thay specific tile

[elder flume]

tbh just having 2 Shus together is already problematic

high chance of unreachable state but not sure why only BK got it

[next wigeon]

Its a funny glitch

Its the reason why you can cheese him in Near Light

Using a Lvl 6 Skill Shu

You can teleport him in a path that the Blood Blades wouldn't pass through on EX-8

[prisma elk]

Tbh idk, just my luck that out of all the enemies, it's boss that leaked lmao

[next wigeon]

Instant -20 Hp

[prisma elk]

Shu literally got tired of 40 mins of stalling that she just did that

God I hope I just get the airducts map so this glitch would actually work on my favor

[next wigeon]

Sui Abuse real

[prisma elk]

I'm trying to prove Bleck wrong about his dare

I found the strat to strategically leak

[keen gull]

Ye do 30 rounds🫡

[prisma elk]

I will once I get the airducts map with bk as the kazi boss lmao

I did the damage calculations and such too

[keen gull]

Gl bro

I think i can go 24 rounds rn

[prisma elk]

If I get it just right, I might be able to reach further than 30

Basically infinite? Not really but basically the limit

I just hope I can beat it still by then lmao, the difficulty curve might get so steep it just suddenly becomes a straight line up

[keen gull]

Inb4 25 round max

[prisma elk]

Fuck me, its this map again...

[prisma elk]

My PTSD lmao, at least I know what to do now

[maiden hound]

o7

[next wigeon]

This is my favourite map tbh

Its perfect for AH

[prisma elk]

It is my favorite too but after what just happened...

[next wigeon]

I hate the one where the Middle Lane can't be placed with Melee

[keen gull]

I love the one with the power up thingy

[next wigeon]

The Vents?

[pearl breach]

Prolly the one with originium tiles

[keen gull]

No the tile

[next wigeon]

Oh that one

[keen gull]

The vent sucks

[prisma elk]

No the vents is my favorite, it's the red tile

[pearl breach]

See. Im so good at this game

[next wigeon]

Pretty good map still

Originium Tile is perfect for Ulpianus

[keen gull]

The worse is the 3 lanes one which is the og map

[next wigeon]

He just regens from it

[pearl breach]

3 lanes with dead tile in the middle is the worst

[prisma elk]

My most hated map is just the one with 3 straight lines, both the ranged and non ranged version

[keen gull]

Nop that one is peak

[prisma elk]

Even with the tiles, both maps of the 3 straight lines is the worst

[elder flume]

im done with S3 at last

just need to refine the auto

and then S4 S5 is prob just a speedrun

[next wigeon]

Its good still for AH or Karlan

Just load up Ulpianus to spam S3

And he'll be golden

Not having an Elite Gladiia is shit tho

[ocean stratus]

is saria good for newbie?

[pearl breach]

6* selector angle??

[pearl breach]

Are you talking about this stuff?

[tidal sedge]

Speaking of saria

Is saria better than Blemishine

Like in general

[somber falcon]

different usage

saria is more of a healing tank(-ish)
blemi is more offensive healer

[tidal sedge]

My second account have lots of healers
And just now I got blemishine
Like is she worth building
because I kinda forgot she exist and hoping to pull saria instead

[next wigeon]

Absolutely

[tidal sedge]

Awh

Bummer

[tidal sedge]

Is blemishine better than Hoshi tho?

[somber falcon]

you can just build her if you want
it's your acc, you decide who to use and where

[tidal sedge]

I mean if she's not good then it'll be a waste of time building her

[somber falcon]

that's even more different role

[tidal sedge]

Which would you prefer as your main Defender

[somber falcon]

i don't have main defender

i use whatever i need on the stage

if it needs pure tank, then hoshi
if I want a hybrid dmg dealer/healer or sleep i take blemi

[tidal sedge]

The reason why Hoshi is still elite 1 is because I'm waiting to get something better than her...
That's probably why i was asking whether she's better or not

I've used Hoshi on my main account and She got swapped with Saria real quick

[somber falcon]

in terms of pure tanking only nian is better than hoshi

[tidal sedge]

I see

I feel like hoshi is still too basics

[tidal sedge]

Ah yeah

I Forgot about nian

[somber falcon]

well yeah her kit is straightforwardly simple

to tank

that's it

[tidal sedge]

I don't need a defender rn

But there are times where I need one

My main account got Ulpianus and Specter + Shining to di most of the tanking

This account are mostly damage dealers with one healer

[somber falcon]

....why is shining included there

[tidal sedge]

She gives Defense to other ops

So might as well include her

[somber falcon]

which makes ulpi having a whooping.... 65 def

[tidal sedge]

With that health That's good enough

[next wigeon]

Main Brick - Hoshi
Laneholding Brick - Penans
Healing Defender - Shu

[tidal sedge]

I also have Hoshi and Saria if I need an actual tank

And matterhorn

[somber falcon]

it's not good enough, it's pointless

65 is practically nothing

even onskill it's 130

[tidal sedge]

Shu is hard to get sadly

[somber falcon]

even matoi has more def than that

[glass monolith]

Extra hardening for bricks - Silence Alter / Quercus

[tidal sedge]

He's a crusher man well at least he can still tanks some damage

[somber falcon]

what I'm saying is they have 0 synergy

[tidal sedge]

I don't meant that

I'm saying is that shining helps other ops gets better defense

It's not only Ulpi

There are other operators too

[brisk surge]

give me a tldr on the chat

[tidal sedge]

But I get your point

Yeah

[somber falcon]

defender pick > tanking conversation

[next wigeon]

Tldr: guy wants a new brick and was considering blemi but I rejected it

[glass monolith]

"Why would you do that?" and "Why not?" mind set meet each other

[brisk surge]

why is shining included in the taking equation

in what content do you need a defense buff

[somber falcon]

.
slight misunderstanding

[tidal sedge]

I was just asking about if Blemishine is worth building considering that I already have Hoshiguma

[pure orchid]

You should build blemi

[tidal sedge]

My second account only healers are silence and silence

I was waiting for saria but got blemishine instead

[tidal sedge]

Also I'm sorry for that

[somber falcon]

nah it's mb as well, I misunderstood your sentence

[tidal sedge]

Yeah I think I'll build blemishine and hopefully not regret my choice

Thanks for the info tho

[gentle parrot]

Oo

[next wigeon]

If you regret your choice, Defender Knights is an option

[brisk surge]

defender knights is just like playing POO with the 1000% increased HP modifier

[somber falcon]

every op have been or will be meta at some point, which means a true metaslave should build everyone

[next wigeon]

Exactly

[next wigeon]

True Whale indeed

[elder flume]

Snowsant was meta fr

canceling black ice prepatch

[somber falcon]

wait what

what eldritch tech is that

[elder flume]

her S2 was a 2 step pull

the gathering phase and the pulling phase

the gathering ignored weight

so you can shift cancel everything

[tidal sedge]

If I have the time then I would XD + I'm lazy

[elder flume]

regardless of weight

https://youtu.be/7qEIE8vTRgU?si=ixQP1pv5LKMAHpjW

[somber falcon]

why is it age restricted

[elder flume]

huh

does it not work for non 18

[somber falcon]

i just played it here

[elder flume]

i never restrict it

[full terrace]

Wow Rainchan posting corn

[somber falcon]

ye it's actually age restricted

[dapper hedge]

fuck in the title wtf not on my christian site youtube

[somber falcon]

afaik yt sometimes just do that?

[lapis hornet]

hey guys

[elder flume]

oh yeah i just got a notification from Youtube

[lapis hornet]

i saw this floating around on the internet is it reliable?!?!

[elder flume]

oh hey im safe

https://youtu.be/bco7Hznd2p4?si=HVEjV0ofy2Mvu2z-

hows this

[full terrace]

Wtf is that 😂

[lapis hornet]

#help tier list I assume

[neat mantle]

for this stage does anybody remember when the enemy spawns from that tile in the backline?

[full terrace]

Around 200~300 mark

You see those undeployable tiles? The helidrop enemies spawn there

[neat mantle]

and when they stop spawning from bottom left?

i know at one point they all spawn at bottom right once

[full terrace]

Dont remember exactly, just keep 1 of your deploy limit free

[tidal sedge]

I like your team

Lot's of variety

[full terrace]

No Fae, inaccurate 🤣

[brisk surge]

i think he made that

[full terrace]

Oh he did?

[brisk surge]

ye from what ive heard

[lapis hornet]

who tf is fae tho

[full terrace]

Yeh he should have listed himself, he contributed so many things already

[lapis hornet]

is he like new

[full terrace]

The one who made Roadless Camelot, and often the infographics for help channel

[brisk surge]

arf can you go into is chat and scroll up a bit

[full terrace]

What happened?

[brisk surge]

[full terrace]

My eyes

[lapis hornet]

sry what's roadless camelot

i haven't been active in this discord for like 2 years lol

[full terrace]

The one pinned in help channel

[lapis hornet]

is that new age neia

aintnoway

[sharp pine]

Did block make the video?

[somber falcon]

[keen gull]

I tried to

I lost🥹

[sharp pine]

[keen gull]

Near 30mins down the drain sadhe

[brisk surge]

go again

[sharp pine]

Guess IL just go with the ah guide

[keen gull]

Nop ima read shadow slave

[neat mantle]

what pulling too many guards does to a mf

i didnt even use silverash here

[full terrace]

Yo @wicked minnow congrats you got featured in Supah's latest video

[modern plover]

Why is "ray nimber 1 shiller" mentioned twice?

[modern plover]

You know youre cooked as a cc when you take #help words serious 💀

[pearl breach]

The guest star of the video

[somber falcon]

Wtaf :lappphone:

[neat mantle]

do enemies even go here? every solo ive seen nobody puts an op there unless gladia is there

[next wigeon]

Patriot does

[somber falcon]

Pretty sure this guy is the kind of "haha I'm just pretending being stupid, get mad lol" cc no?

[next wigeon]

That's the exit solely for him

[neat mantle]

only patriot?

[next wigeon]

Yep

[modern plover]

Pretty much yeah
But i never expect him to stoop this low 💀

[neat mantle]

ah so i can just focus downside then\

[tidal sedge]

Patriot is easy

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

[next wigeon]

Basically yes

[full terrace]

I still like him tho, his content is entertaining and it makes me laugh everytime I watch it 😂

[next wigeon]

The front of the blue box on the bottom is the choke point for both patty and enemies

[full terrace]

Life is too stressful as it is, I watch stuff for the laugh

[somber falcon]

Just watch help smh
Same content but you're not funding drama maker

[next wigeon]

What if you need to do your Taxes in the Underworld because of Karma

Nothing escapes good ol' death and taxes

[full terrace]

Supah made me laugh so he pays steeper price bahahaha

[full terrace]

#help has different genre my brother. That one is drama, supah is comedy

For the record, I watch both

[next wigeon]

#help is constant arguing until mods comes and twists our nuts off

[pearl breach]

Good taste

[remote perch]

Oh wow
He's really milking it

I wonder if i should join the hate

to get free promotion

[next wigeon]

Be famous ya

[remote perch]

[next wigeon]

Promote Roadless Camelot to the masses

[remote perch]

so true

[next wigeon]

Im curious on what he's saying so I'm gonna watch that video

[pearl breach]

The bait is successful

Supah is smart for picking that thumbnail

[lofty stag]

Is this a supah hate thread

[pearl breach]

No. You wont get featured on his next video

Need more effort than that

[lofty stag]

I don’t wanna be featured 🥱

[lapis hornet]

wait why help hating on sciel now

[remote perch]

good question

[lofty stag]

I’m also awaiting an answer

[dry flame]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/duy6800 any op good for core protocol ? ( 4 slot of free choice )

[nocturne cove]

Hating is in the nature of ak players

[next wigeon]

What map is this? This is the first time I've seen it

[nocturne cove]

No need for explanation

[next wigeon]

Logos Degen Ines or Lapplter

[full terrace]

I'm also wondering why, but I think it has something to do about him failing his IS run at F1 on an IS tourney.

[dry flame]

ines and degen ?

[remote perch]

You draft Ines?

[next wigeon]

Degen for Karlan nonsense

Ines for some weird strat like the one sent here earlier

[dapper hedge]

???? What does ines do on stronghold

[dry flame]

im using laptop s3 ifrit s2 idk what the 2 other op i shuold use

i saw some one use ash s1 but idk if it good

[next wigeon]

https://skibidix.com/churrasco9735/status/1921388661116985357/en

しゅらすこ (@churrasco9735)

📑 Translated from Japanese

I was trying to beat the Defense Agreement and the Core Agreement, and then all of a sudden this happened and it was the strongest. #アークナイツ

Original text
堅守協定、核心協定をひいこら言いながら攻略してたら突然これになって最強だった
︀︀#アークナイツ

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FxTwitter · May 11, 2025, 2:15 AM

Strange af strat

[remote perch]

thats a cute art ngl

[full terrace]

Draft Asca and play a leakless Protocol with 70 Life Points intact like this #strategy message

[scarlet mortar]

catapult's parasim

[dry flame]

i dont have asca

[dapper hedge]

I mean i doubt its an actual strat

[remote perch]

manticore my beloved

[dapper hedge]

And more just they picking whatever

[next wigeon]

Oh no wonder, I haven't unlocked it

[next wigeon]

Stall Strat apparently

[pearl breach]

Not really.
The discussion starts from exu showcase on LS-4 maps.

Which is actually useless since it doesn't show you anything.

[brisk surge]

i was featured in a sciel video

[lofty stag]

Proof?

[brisk surge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGs5j-oABac

this was my hh

its the only one he lost

[wicked minnow]

life has gotten noticeably harder after this. i get glances on the street now. this is truly the worst thing to ever happen to me

[pearl breach]

Catapult paradox sim iirc

[full terrace]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

100/100 comment

[lofty stag]

Change your identity

Become agent 47

[wicked minnow]

thinking about it

this has irreparably ruined my image

[brisk surge]

insane statement

[lofty stag]

More than kotkai?

[brisk surge]

but he made the video for you

think about it

🚬

[dapper hedge]

But youre famous now

[pearl breach]

A video for dedicated fans

[elder flume]

When will i be featured in Supah vid

[lofty stag]

2098

Don’t worry I checked

[brisk surge]

you need to have more controversial takes

[lapis hornet]

say bad things about eckogen if it's bad enough maybe he'll take a vid about it

[elder flume]

Almond is better than Ulpianus

[shell arch]

It's lufasu, the bozo who got category locked from #help because offtopic

Aka am*go mk.2 electric bungaloo

[lapis hornet]

wait amigo

[shell arch]

Yes sweetheart?

[lapis hornet]

you're not even on the tier list wdf?!?!

[shell arch]

Unfortunately no. I was powercrept by astr*l

[lofty stag]

He was sadly too old 🥱

[lapis hornet]

bro even I am on it and I haven't helped anyone since 2023

[brisk surge]

amigo got crept because of his trait

[lapis hornet]

ngl you should sue

[somber falcon]

Amigold is gated until he gets top op

[nocturne cove]

?

How is that possible

[brisk surge]

if there was a yapper tier id be on top

[pearl breach]

No.1 pro misinfo before you guys came

[dark mantle]

so you're a known fraud

yep

[lofty stag]

Get in line bud I’m a professional yapper 🥱

[brisk surge]

french

[nocturne cove]

Shit writer

Lmao

[lofty stag]

Shut

That is a lie

[lapis hornet]

ngl I didn't recognize 90% of that list actual powercreep

[brisk surge]

im chinese im better yapper

[nocturne cove]

I need to read dorohedoro

[lofty stag]

I am not fucking French

[nocturne cove]

Xenophobia

Ban this guy

[dark mantle]

wtf french...

[lofty stag]

Goddamnit

[pure orchid]

hi

[nocturne cove]

Ni hao

[somber falcon]

You can probably come back to help three months from now and you won't see anyone from this month

[brisk surge]

omg hi

[pure orchid]

Amigo stfu

[brisk surge]

stop reacting to me you frenchie

[pearl breach]

MyS barely online nowadays
He already got dethroned

[brisk surge]

wtfart message deleting

[lapis hornet]

amigo we know you're not getting any no needa scream it in public...

[pure orchid]

anyways anyone wanna watch me grind for defender+karlan clear on core

[nocturne cove]

No

[pure orchid]

ok...

[nocturne cove]

Play is5ed4

Then I will

[pure orchid]

Fuck no

[nocturne cove]

Fuck you

[pure orchid]

I lost horribly to plans check

[nocturne cove]

yes*

[pure orchid]

Like

I had the perfect everything

then i forgot to save 2 plans

[nocturne cove]

Excuses

[brisk surge]

can you do it on my acc

[nocturne cove]

WOMP womp

[pure orchid]

Ive been dis ummm

discouraged ever since

[pure orchid]

Nope

[brisk surge]

[pure orchid]

Holy shit degen is karlan

[nocturne cove]

Ok I go eat dinner

[nocturne cove]

Yep

You're silly

[somber falcon]

Well she's an employee

[pure orchid]

How broken is degen in core karlan comp

[dapper hedge]

I wonder if the faction buff they did on cn

Gonna affect stronghold

Cause degen is also kazi apparently now

[full terrace]

Pick up Lamp and get Herr Hraaselsuher and Four-Leaf Clover Fossil at RT F1, then keep getting Catastrophe Epoch on lots of Epochal Gaps on the way

[pure orchid]

wow that sounds consistent af

[pearl breach]

Degen is gud if you have her on t6 with s1m3 + accelerator & stun grenade.
Almost as good as asca s1 with stun granade

[pure orchid]

Well anyway ima stream in vc

Even if no one watch

[nocturne cove]

I'm going to watch vct while eating

🫡

[full terrace]

I'll watch you just because I pity you

Okay done watching

[next wigeon]

I'll go watch ya

[pure orchid]

Thanks

[lofty stag]

See I would watch but I’m at work

[full terrace]

BORN TO BE FLAWLESS @pure orchid

[next wigeon]

Tbh I didn't expect Qyurii has deep ass voice like Socks

[full terrace]

And be Flawless with 70 Points LP intact

[lofty stag]

Woah

#help lore

[next wigeon]

Ya

[full terrace]

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD YOUR VOICE BOZO @pure orchid

[next wigeon]

I can't hear clearly during pulling sessions

Everyone is basically arguing

Do Depths

[lofty stag]

Why

[next wigeon]

Everyone is just talking over each other

Only one I can hear clear is Socks and Kotkai

I hope you get Ulpianus

[full terrace]

Get this #strategy message for guaranteed King set, Doodle got powercrept already

[lofty stag]

I’m tempted to join pull session

But I either have work or school

[full terrace]

Why the hell you want Beagle

[next wigeon]

Dead like as Lore implied

Oh

[full terrace]

Skill issue, just shoot em with Kroos

[next wigeon]

Corporate Management or Wintertide?

@pure orchid what skill on Matterhorn?

I use S1

Me neither

[full terrace]

Bozo, use your Matterhorn

Thats why you make Low-End guides, get familiar with him

[next wigeon]

I have Cuora at E2

@pure orchid KyostinV

[full terrace]

I gotta go do my daily, let Astrel keep you company

Give you privacy

[next wigeon]

He has a few guides that have Matterhorn

[full terrace]

Get intimate there

[somber falcon]

Ew 🚮

[next wigeon]

To Tank Arts perhaps

[shell arch]

Can I switch beagle for cardiayy in SP?

[next wigeon]

I don't think you can?

[shell arch]

Beagle suck ass

[lofty stag]

Yeah u kinda stuck with most ops there

[somber falcon]

Huh
Idt I've seen candle knight here

[next wigeon]

The buff works

[somber falcon]

At all

Til ig

[next wigeon]

The Cold chance is just ass

[next wigeon]

They are a pain at the start

[lofty stag]

Doesn’t blood knight show up as the boss for Kazi enemies

[next wigeon]

Sometimes ya

I feel like he's the better boss

[lofty stag]

Wait there multiple bosses

[shell arch]

Either that or hammer archer bros

[next wigeon]

The Twins is shit

[next wigeon]

Ya its a random chance

[lofty stag]

I just keep getting twins

[brisk surge]

Did you even play

[shell arch]

I'd prefer hammer bros at any day than blood knight

[next wigeon]

I hate the fckin twins

[somber falcon]

Oh yeah never met twin knights too

[next wigeon]

The archer hurts af

[lofty stag]

Brother I already did the required core protocol for challenges 🥱

[somber falcon]

They're probably a set

[next wigeon]

I also hate the gun lady on Pathfinder

I prefer the dumb golem

[lofty stag]

I only get golem Tf

[shell arch]

Frozen militia bosses have Pompeii too. Not just walmart frostnova

[full terrace]

Hate no one and kill everything

[next wigeon]

You lucky

[shell arch]

Gun lady on pathfinder?

[next wigeon]

But seriously tho the Gun Lady in pathfinder hurts af

[shell arch]

Andoain?

[lofty stag]

That’s a guy

[full terrace]

Andoain is a lady LMAO

100/100

[shell arch]

Yeah so who's gun lady on pathfinder?

[lofty stag]

Amoga you need glasses 🥱

[shell arch]

Brother I was asking astr*l who's gun lady in pathfinder

[next wigeon]

Its Wallmart Frostnova

[dapper hedge]

Hows that gun lady

[shell arch]

I know andoain is a m*le. Bro is living the lemuen mostima harem

[dapper hedge]

????

[next wigeon]

I just checked

[lofty stag]

Gun lady semantics

[full terrace]

Lemuen Mostima harem 🤤

[shell arch]

Walahi how come walmart frostnova has a gunlady on pathfinder nickname

[next wigeon]

I thought it was something else because she hides behind something else

[somber falcon]

Different enemy

It's an elite

Idr name

[lofty stag]

Mid harem sadly 🥱

[shell arch]

Astrel please get your meds. I'm confused

[next wigeon]

Artifex Prefect

[lofty stag]

That sounds like a new electric car

[next wigeon]

I was mistaking it due to swarming and covering up Wallmart Frostnova

[shell arch]

Oh yeah what's other pathfinder boss? I only met golem methinks

[somber falcon]

Huh
That's not who i thought of

[next wigeon]

Hmmm

[next wigeon]

Golem and Wallmart Frostnova for Pathfinder

Pompeii and Wallmart Frostnova for Icefield Militants

[shell arch]

Walmart frostnova is on pathfinder?

[next wigeon]

Blood Knight and Twins for Kazi

Mudmud for Sarkaz

[shell arch]

How do you even pathfinder Walmart frostnova

[next wigeon]

Jesselton and Jetguy for Convict

I haven't seen Jetguy

[shell arch]

Sarkaz only had mudmud?

[next wigeon]

Ya

[shell arch]

why do every enemy have 2 boss then

[full terrace]

In the UI, can just click on the enemy button to show all potential bosses for that faction

[next wigeon]

I don't see other bosses for Sarkaz

[next wigeon]

Discrimination

[somber falcon]

Jetpack

[full terrace]

Attacker

[shell arch]

Jet guy is also on sarkaz?

[next wigeon]

Nope

Wait I think i know the 2nd boss

Its Big Bob

[shell arch]

[next wigeon]

Why tf does he not have the Boss BG

[shell arch]

Yeah it's big bob, mudrock husband

[next wigeon]

He's right beside the Slug Image

He's so far back

[shell arch]

Me praying my sarkaz run boss is big bob instead of mudrock 🙏

[next wigeon]

@pure orchid I used that alot

Free Guy from Faction is good

[next wigeon]

Mudmud pretty weak against AH ya

Just stun her to death with Ulpipi

[shell arch]

Ok but big bob is weak against everything

[next wigeon]

Fair

[somber falcon]

Buffer caster:

[next wigeon]

Tbh I didn't know Kotkai was in VC lol

[onyx ocean]

kotkai who?

[royal rose]

I beat two Core runs in a row

Honestly, not that bad

Wish we got Mechanist and Raidian in the base game

[next wigeon]

Congratulations

See doing stuff and not whining can make you succeed

[lofty stag]

What if I do stuff and still whine

[next wigeon]

Core is seriously not that bad, only RNG is ass

[glass monolith]

And then i get Freeze squad with 2 HP scalings from round count and that shit scale to +1000% HP and i get murdered by splash freezes because nothing fucking dies

[lofty stag]

Just reset if you get freeze enemies 🥱

[glass monolith]

But i don't want to hunt for bootleg frostnova in IS3

[next wigeon]

Just face tank them with Ulpi

[next wigeon]

Just get her from Pathfinder smh

Wallmart Frostnova is in Pathfinder and Icefield Militants

[glass monolith]

I had chapter 12 blinking guys. +1000% hp

[next wigeon]

What mob is that?

I forgor

[elder flume]

tophatman

[glass monolith]

Funny hat guy i don't care for his name

[next wigeon]

Hmmmge

[elder flume]

damatzi

[dapper hedge]

She isnt in pathfinder

Unless the game lying

[keen gull]

Shes sarkaz no?

[next wigeon]

Oh

[elder flume]

wtf budget Faust

never foundhim

[next wigeon]

The Forsaken one looks like her lol

Close Enough :clueless:

[next wigeon]

Oh Trilby Asher

They hit hard af

[glass monolith]

I didn't care for hit. But bitch blinks forward between stuns. And again - I rolled ALL HP scaling on that squad

[rich plover]

How much of a HP increase is PV S 5 Lappland compared to the normal one?

Might need tips cuz I wanna figure it out on my own

[night osprey]

Guys help 😔

[glass monolith]

108k. 118,8k on CM

[rich plover]

Make the path longer for the enemies

You can even stall them till the Carnivale starts by blocking and unblocking one side

[night osprey]

Alright i try

[rich plover]

I went with this strategy tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su-7odeSKq4&t=1929s&pp=ygUOcHYgcyBhcmtuaWdodHM%3D

[glass monolith]

I did such cringe for S-3. Switch roadblock near blue box to force enemies top/bottom path. Also i did bottom path into 2 paths one in middle and other in bottom halfs in order to separate entire clown train from fuze

[rich plover]

Oh yea, definitely kill the tuba guys first

[night osprey]

Ouh i already watched but still fail lmao well i guess it's because RNG