strategy

[azure roost]

p3 rn

one more

to p4

then use caster royal token

[full terrace]

What ops do you have

[jaunty hill]

My logos sucks ass it ain't killing shit

[final obsidian]

Use S1

[full terrace]

You can stack him with Narantuya for extra safety. The right side you can abuse Pepe, Exe, Texas, and some blockers

[jaunty hill]

Oh yeah that worked thanks

[full terrace]

Oh you got it already? Cool

I just logged in to my alt, was about to run you a simulation

[elder flume]

Damn Stain dupe

[jaunty hill]

Should I level up any of these btw

[full terrace]

Nymph and Typhon are pretty good for general contents. Ifrit is good for upcoming CCB#3.

Phantom if you play IS a lot.

[pure orchid]

Arf

I caved in and made an alt

[full terrace]

😂

[pure orchid]

For the web event

I feel so filthy...

[full terrace]

🤣

[pure orchid]

That is all i have to say

Ill go back to playing the new love live brainrot on loop

[elder flume]

Snowhalation

So she doesnt need mod to survive but at that point why not mod her

[smoky halo]

@azure roost how did u do ex8 cm 4stars

🥹

+rdp too hard

[pure orchid]

Use arturia s1 for your "4-starknights" niche 🤫

[smoky halo]

zzzzz

s3 is the beter skill

for ex8

[pure orchid]

Return to your roots 🚬

[smoky halo]

i used it in lateranoknights

you can see my clear here ‼️

[pure orchid]

I mean

[smoky halo]

time to self promote

[pure orchid]

I did watch a nymph/virt duo

[smoky halo]

nymph virt is slop

[azure roost]

idk

[pure orchid]

You're slop!!!

[azure roost]

u can lower it to 4 ops if uwant

fibro

[smoky halo]

i used solo virt for phase 1

[azure roost]

abuse totter

[smoky halo]

??? 4 ops is normal

[fathom swift]

Rosmontis / Stainless ends that duo tbh

[azure roost]

deepcolor

[smoky halo]

i am dying in CM 🥹

the redeploy nerf

too hard

[azure roost]

lowest 4★ clear is 4 only

on ex 8

[smoky halo]

thats normal mode

[azure roost]

so s-5

[smoky halo]

not cm

🥹

[azure roost]

[smoky halo]

no homework to copy

[azure roost]

u add

ur pro

[smoky halo]

😔

[azure roost]

im not

[smoky halo]

ur pro

pls submit to arkrec

[azure roost]

nah me ded

[full terrace]

Nata's simulation, thought I might as well upload it

[pure orchid]

Your recording makes me competitive grrr

I wanna do some crazy stupid shit

[azure roost]

wat ex 8 condi again

i forgot

[smoky halo]

play niche

ex8cm?

[pure orchid]

No no no

[smoky halo]

+redeploy timer

its so ass

😭

i abuse utage and gravel

[azure roost]

oh its just redeploy

[pure orchid]

Logos mostima

[smoky halo]

i cant abuse anymore

😔

[azure roost]

ur issue honestly

[smoky halo]

utage is so broken

almost surtr tier dps

(assuming peak condition)

just lacks range, multi target, res pen, unkillable, and need to like 30% hp at all times

:clueless:

[azure roost]

p1 is free

p2 need to time firework win

to burst her

[smoky halo]

ye i need to 1 cycle p2 i think

🥹

[azure roost]

fibro

[smoky halo]

but ye p1 has no timer

[azure roost]

yknow

[smoky halo]

so ez

[azure roost]

cutter

[smoky halo]

cutter? hm

[azure roost]

s1

[smoky halo]

to burst?

[azure roost]

at firework win

then utage

[smoky halo]

i used totter utage for nm 🥹

totter op

[azure roost]

ur op

do my sss

ty

[smoky halo]

nop

i dont even do my own SSS

🥹

[azure roost]

but ye time burst

[pure orchid]

Oh wow

I need ines pot2 for this shit

OH

OH IM SO

Ines s3

time

nope nvm no dp

[brisk surge]

so noob

[pure orchid]

lemme cook

[pure orchid]

Money

[elder flume]

Balloons are ass

Shaw is -1 hitting it

[smoky halo]

what is bro doing

i have pot2 ines btw if u need

🚬

[sly drift]

Pot 5 Mlynar have significant improvement on S3 damage. I wonder if his module makes the difference even wider

[smoky halo]

u can ask theacc to calc

@willow sun calc pot5 mlynar dmg boost with mod3

[pure orchid]

nah its fine

[smoky halo]

cant u just run luto left 🥹

thats what i did for 4star only :joyplush:

[limpid ore]

oh yeah, since those thing kill itself on block, it just heals her

[pure orchid]

Oh ffs

[smoky halo]

L no ines pot

wait lv60

[pure orchid]

No its not even the ines pot

[smoky halo]

maybe thats the reason

lol

[pure orchid]

i need to SURVIVE

[smoky halo]

yeah bro give her more lvs

:icant:

[pure orchid]

eh id rather redeploy mostima faster

[smoky halo]

also pot helps with survival

[elder flume]

Inb4 kills too fast and not enough dp

[smoky halo]

pot5 is talent buff

she steals 100 atk instead of 90

[pure orchid]

I need her talent to be if Vulpisfoglia does not take damage for 4s, recovers 4% of Max HP every second

[brisk surge]

is that not the talent?

counter offer what if she recovers 5 instead of 4

[pure orchid]

hmm

nope i think mostima s3 too early

or...

i redeploy ines while mostima s3 holds?

[brisk surge]

[elder flume]

30s

[brisk surge]

idk whats the challenge here

[pure orchid]

I have a lane of invis reveal

Can i have more practice plans zzz

[brisk surge]

nope

spend sanity

[pure orchid]

Of course its easier on standard zzz

Yup im spending sanity

[tidal sedge]

Afaik we can't leak Amiyi haha, Quilon is better in that regard atleast

[pure orchid]

Im too determined now to let this go

[brisk surge]

erm

yeah its called challenge mode for a reason

🚬

[pure orchid]

I just hate the idea of having to hold with 5 different blockers

Im doing this to spite the stage design

[brisk surge]

you hold with 4

and just stall the last lane

but then again cm

this stage just kinda stinks

[pure orchid]

Still sucks

So like with asca and ines

Im tryna reduce the blockers

[elder flume]

Kekw Saria S3M3 isnt fast enough

[pure orchid]

Oh

a problem if i try to redeploy ines mid mosti s3 is i lose the invis reveal below

[brisk surge]

are you s3 or

[pure orchid]

nope

s2

i need the range

[brisk surge]

thats so cooked

[pure orchid]

and dp

[brisk surge]

silverash angle 🚬

[pure orchid]

ill have heal sure but not enough dp to open

and no reveal on 1 lane

mosti works on invis i think

i might be able to use this

[smoky halo]

yes she does

bro does not use mosti often to know smh

[pure orchid]

this is so sad

[dull pivot]

Anyone have skadi i can borrow?

[pure orchid]

I use wisadel often

[brisk surge]

do you have mod3

[pure orchid]

mod3 wha

[brisk surge]

mostima

[pure orchid]

duh

[brisk surge]

you are kinda dumb sometimes i had to make sure

[pure orchid]

wow rude

[brisk surge]

ive been too nice today

[pure orchid]

wtf

why do i get the short end of the stick

[brisk surge]

nah ive been flaming on help chat too dw

especially bleck since i found out that we live in the same country

[pure orchid]

Im stumped

i think if i redeploy ines 10 seconds earlier, i have a chance

[elder flume]

I think i have to ditch Marcille strat
Theyre close to grouping but topside still problematic

[pure orchid]

But then i might leak up

[faint loom]

which skill do i equip for tequila? i just realized i was using him wrong all this time , no wonder i always caught off guard by the enemy just passing him by without a fight

[dusky hawk]

What should my team be for PV-10

I’m gonna borrow someone as well

[proud bluff]

Why is silence e2 before your dps options ?

[somber shuttle]

is there a reason why you keep your e2s level 1

[dusky hawk]

Too lazy

[somber shuttle]

i mean, investing at least 30 to 40 levels wont hurt

[dusky hawk]

Cause she is cool

[proud bluff]

Firewatch is a pretty weird choice too, so is krooster e2 first

[dusky hawk]

I used e2 ticket on firewatch

Rn I have a lvl 80 pass for a 5 star and idk who to use it on

[proud bluff]

don't raise grain buds, wild mane, amiya, and zima for now, you clearly got better things to do

[somber shuttle]

kroos alter obv

[pearl breach]

People love diminishing returns after a hard work to promote their e2

[somber shuttle]

or tequila

[proud bluff]

not them for sure

[dusky hawk]

Kk

[somber shuttle]

😭

[dusky hawk]

Sure

Who should I upgrade

[wicked minnow]

i wouldnt say obviously but it's a thing you can do

[somber shuttle]

for pv10 or in general

like really just level your e2s.....

[dusky hawk]

Both

[somber shuttle]

its not gonna hurt

[dusky hawk]

To what lvl?

[somber shuttle]

the large diminishing returns starts at lv70 for e2

[somber shuttle]

40 or 50

[dusky hawk]

K

[dusky hawk]

And can you pls help me w building a team for pv-10

[azure roost]

bought 450 green cert headhunt on jp

got lapp2

[wicked minnow]

ok bro

your luck is crazy

[somber shuttle]

vulpis, lapp2, firewatch, kroos alter, silence, courier/scavenger, perfumer, gravel
not sure for the remaining slots

borrow wis for easy opening

logos borrow is also viable but needs more time to setup

[dusky hawk]

Hmm ok

[full terrace]

#strategy message

[elder flume]

S2

[dusky hawk]

Wow thxx

[azure roost]

shileds, if i get another lapp2 dupe on main

i would p6 her using 8 royal caster token

and she will be e0

[elder flume]

Ptilo to get 2nd Sora skill faster

[pure orchid]

hb suzuran?

[elder flume]

dont have her

[pure orchid]

Thats rough

I can lend you mine if ptilo doesnt work

[elder flume]

i need this auto

[pure orchid]

Oh

I understand

Hope ptilo works then

[elder flume]

ive just been heavy mastering and modding everything i can try for this

[azure roost]

what stage it

that

[pure orchid]

pv7 i think

[elder flume]

stuck at EX7 too until Swire M3 is done

[azure roost]

mmm

[azure roost]

wta squad is dis

[elder flume]

everythingburger

[halcyon adder]

Am I stupid or ex1 was actually hard?

[azure roost]

pinecone the snack

[azure roost]

not really

[halcyon adder]

Too many units

[smoky halo]

is bro trying to hole everyone?

[halcyon adder]

Too fast

[azure roost]

u prob got overwhelmed by red and blue boxes

other side is just aoe

[halcyon adder]

Ya had to bring in slowers

[elder flume]

yuh

[azure roost]

where rope @elder flume

[elder flume]

wat Rope do

no one goes bottom

[pure orchid]

Rope you

[elder flume]

and Almond is better than Rope

[azure roost]

rope at feat area

wtfff

[pure orchid]

FETA

[azure roost]

almond user

i have m6 almond

[elder flume]

same

Almond is great

faster than Gladiia in some cases

[pure orchid]

[azure roost]

s2 dont exist but ye

s1 pog

ngl i cant rmemeber when i use s2

[elder flume]

S2 only has 1 use case where its better than Rope

[azure roost]

if i would use s2

i prob use s2 snowsant instead

[smoky halo]

isnt gladia s3

just giga value

🚬

[azure roost]

gladiia

balls

[smoky halo]

group up and stall the smol things

[azure roost]

i rather use s2

instead

[elder flume]

i use all 3 Gladiia skills

2 is good for cycles

3 is kina giga long wait time

as long as Gladiia force 3 S1 doesnt trigger Almond S1 is better

[weary grotto]

Can kazemaru s2 doll be healed?

[civic bear]

not green heals

but you can regen it

[weary grotto]

There is an tech that allow you to have 2 dolls at the same time

[civic bear]

yes

[weary grotto]

Is there an max limit of clones you can have using it?

[elder flume]

nop

same as crabs

[full terrace]

RRRAAGGGHHHH

Two failed Quilon attempts 😒

Nymph is a bit unstable if you got not enough relics, so frustrating

This girl still takes awhile before I can use her

[smoky halo]

doesnt she work at e1?

man i feel so scammed after selectoring qb

i realized there are other stall options 🥹

and shes not worth drafting

[full terrace]

I need it M3-ed

[full terrace]

To be fair, Quilon can be tanked

[south spindle]

Status resistance of quilon applies to bind?

Ah bind is a debuff, so shouldn't

QB SL7 is 2.5s Bind

5 sp, every 6 attacks is bind, 1.3s base interval

Needs +220 ASPD to perma bind

[maiden hound]

simply use chalice

[smoky halo]

150 ingot chalice + king set is enough 🥹

[full terrace]

You dont necessarily need that much aspd. If you got Bloodbath and/or Devilbane Banner together with King set, she doesnt need any Chalices.

[south spindle]

Im saying SL7 too btw so yeah
I did the math for S1M3, and its +120 ASPD

[distant pumice]

can i get help with pv-ex-8 🙏 went to phase 2 and got rushed down by 30 regular guys in the bottom left box

[faint loom]

Is this team comp good enough for the long run? I’m currently investing all my resources into building Alt. Lapp, but I’m wondering after her, should I focus on Silence or Saria?

[full terrace]

Read this #strategy message

And this for reference #strategy message

[distant pumice]

ty

[full terrace]

Adjust accordingly

[south spindle]

Get Silence and Saria to E1, but note that Saria S1 is better healing, so get skill levels on her
Lvl 40 is fine at E1 since max level is a waste if not going to E2 yet
After that focus Silverash E2 for more dps

Blacknights not going to go far, consider Myrtle for vanguard

[full terrace]

"Long run" is usually about a squad full of 6 Stars, so this can never be good enough for long run because you'll be getting better units as you play more. But this is an okay squad to get things rolling.

Also for general questions like this, it's better asked at #help

Seek Spacejamflam or chisasu there

[faint loom]

okay this helps a lot
thanks

[faint loom]

sorry

[faint loom]

Okay, i'll remember to do that next time
sorry

[full terrace]

No I didnt mean to criticize, just pointing you to a better place to ask

You're good 👍

[elder flume]

PV7 progress is going well

can lineup top and bottom now

[full terrace]

Ulpianes kills it 😂

He literally thrives under that originium tile

[willow sun]

i gotta study for my finals man, sorry

hasn’t chi already calced that

[full terrace]

Elusive Merc

I didnt record coz it wasnt Emergency

[south spindle]

Pot 3 and 4 matter more, presuming full stacks of talent 1 and nothing dying:
Modless P1: 92K
Modless P3: 94K
Modless P4: 100K
Mod3 P1: 118K
Mod3 P3: 121K
Mod3 P4: 128K

Without Mod expected 23.33 attacks -> rounded to 23, with mod expected 24.96 attacks -> rounded to 25 (might be off but you can adjust accordingly easily)

[azure roost]

ok i updated my krooster

its on my about me

[south spindle]

i gotchu cuh

@smoky halo forgot to ping you for summoning the boy

[pure orchid]

Geez dont make me buy the guard tokens, im already broke as is on red certs

Or maybe hopefully we have some JO and i lucksack mly pot

And then i bench wis
-# bah who am i kidding

[smoky halo]

ah alr

🚬

[south spindle]

Missing out on numbers that make him surpass wisadel!

Aight yeah for mod3 I added the extra attack I think 24.96 is safe enough to round up, but 23.3 is rounded down

[sly drift]

Literally 28% more damage. Mlynar is probably the most pay to win operator on the game

[south spindle]

And its that little +25 attack

That gets amplified to 7000 damage

25x5x1.28x1.8 over 25 attacks = 7200

[azure roost]

[elder flume]

But why is it rounded up

If an attack doesnt occur its 0 no

Unless im missing something

Im not a math guy so

[fresh jewel]

How is the situation looking?

Mlynar, wis and her drones and Saria will aggro the rockets. If all wis drones die. I will use nightingale bird cages

Once I have enough dp i Will remove Myrtle and put narantuya to help Ines clean the leaks

[full terrace]

@pure orchid that Wisadel one shot a Quilon boat 😂

[tidal sedge]

how important will thorns alter and entelechia be for high lvl missions in the future, still not sure if i should pull for them

[pure orchid]

Erm

is that a good thing

I hate quilon

Im just not paying attention when i try for ed4

[elder flume]

Entel is funi for Exu2 event

Nothing much other than that imo

[tidal sedge]

ah ok ic ty

[tidal sedge]

WHA

21K Atk, yep makes sense

Rerolling F1 is such a pain in the ass

[tidal sedge]

They're both easily skippable

[tidal sedge]

phew

theres so many good characters coming up so it would of been hard to pull for them

[grand basin]

can someone make me a team please

thsi is my current squad

[full terrace]

It's hard to see but that's a 100k shot

It's a crazy run, Logos had 25k atk

When I was robbing Cannot, he died so fast he didnt get a chance to spawn me Hovercrafts

Want me to share you the secret? @tidal sedge

😂

[potent jungle]

Struggling with 4-10 (frostnova battle), cant clear it without borrowed ops, my team is this (different skill for texalter), any advice on how yo approach that battle? Cant manage both boss and waves

[keen gull]

Share rn

[elder flume]

You can continue with your current squad
Mix and match what you need based on the map
3 casters is a bit much but if you need arts then its debatable
Ceobe will carry in arts department
Greyy is more used in IS
Lapp is good to silence enemies
Virt is good to bypass dr
Change Vigna to Myrtle when you get her

[somber shuttle]

i guess also healing issue? i mean there's hung but eh

if fn is the problem just peel with texalt

i dont remember if she's also immune to fear, lapp can possibly help on cc

oh LOL i thought rain's talking about the recent guy

[somber shuttle]

anyways follow up @potent jungle just peel fn with texalt while also preparing your team setup in bottom left

if healing is the problem just drop shining and add an aoe healer

shining is very 🥀 to this day and age, avoid using/raising her

[potent jungle]

So just drop texalter, retreat when close to death and repeat? Im not sure i have any aoe healers persay, except myrtle ig if i understand her s2 right.

[elder flume]

Myrtle S1

If your team is dying because of FN then push it back to blue box

Let Texalt fight FN

Exu is great at killing her too

[potent jungle]

Oh yea, sorry, i did ticket elite her to max but havent used her too much. As for shining, my closest option in healing would be silence (or whats that owl ladies name), would she be better?

[somber shuttle]

get an aoe healer

perfumer?

pls dont sleep on low rarities 😭

theyre so resource-efficient especially if you're a new player

[potent jungle]

Well i just generally dont hear about them so i have no way if knowing if theyll turn up any good

And those are only healers i got

[somber shuttle]

yeah perfumer

you could probably do something like this (all ops e1) for an opening

[potent jungle]

Ohh, 3 vanguards

[somber shuttle]

2 is fine

[potent jungle]

Wait who did you drop with texalt on boss? I cant see that character well

[somber shuttle]

Gravel, to tank her hits

honestly anyone works as long as high hp

[potent jungle]

Oh, okay

Thanks

[somber shuttle]

almost dead

just be careful with the mobs from left side

[fresh jewel]

Anyone

[tidal sedge]

Yes pls

[full terrace]

😂

So basically

You end the run on Fractured Mind 🤣

You see, Quilon, unlike Theresis and Patriot that got Phase 3 when you enter the fight with Fractured Mind, he just summons more of these

Which is not an issue at all

Now here is the thing

[tidal sedge]

And Fractured mind buffs our Ops?

[full terrace]

No, here is the thing: if you got Soul Furnace and has a massive Toil Limit by F6, you can keep all your Shrivels instead of combining them.

Let's say you got this Chronicles by the end of F1

And you reach 100 Toil Limit by F6

You could carry 50 Shrivels

And 50 x 5% = 250% Atk

Thats like King set plus Old Fan combined

[tidal sedge]

That's so much, no wonder your Logos got 25K

Basically sacrifice collectibles for stats

[full terrace]

Yess

You got those 50 Shrivels

25 Relics

Are you sure with those 25 Relics you can get 250% Atk there?

Unlikely 🤣

So it's better to just keep them

[tidal sedge]

Good luck getting that lmao

I'll try that when I can 😹

[full terrace]

It only works for Quilon coz he doesnt have the annoying Phase 3

You enter Theresis/Patriot fight with Fractured Mind, you eat a Phase 3

[tidal sedge]

How bad is that? I never tried it myself

[full terrace]

I mean its not horrible, but still annoying

If you got the relics it shouldnt be an issue still

[tidal sedge]

Will try when more Difficulties get added

[full terrace]

D18 cursed relics look like fun ngl

[grand basin]

i understood like 50% what u said but alr thanks

[south dove]

The fuck is this stage

[narrow pendant]

Peak of design

[bold lance]

Good old R8-8

[wispy condor]

still using plume in ch8

[bold lance]

Ironically not that terrible of an idea for the stage

[wispy condor]

does plume actually kill the soldiers?

[narrow pendant]

Funny how gg can solo this stage iirc but lapp cant

[wispy condor]

gg needs some godly explosion rng to solo on cm so i havent seen that done, but yes

[bold lance]

Yeah? Charger vanguards don't like fall over to random dogs, they actually deal ok damage.

[south dove]

Is this some instant camouflage tech stage

[narrow pendant]

No its a redeployment stage

[bold lance]

No, not really. It's about deploy order and healing

Or as said earlier, just Goldenglow it.

[south dove]

Does she not die

[bold lance]

there is a safe tile on the left edge

[south dove]

Ah goldenglow just nukes them that easy

[tidal sedge]

Regular Army makes me wanna quit.

[full terrace]

Regular Army is easy 🤣

Just kill the cars first

Then deploy Wis/Logos on the Camouflage tiles

And bam bam bam

Cars you can just helidrop Ulpi for example

He can take quite a bit of hits from ufo

While still destroying the cars

[willow sun]

arts is the counterpart to physical damage, arts is reduced multiplicatively by resistance (i.e. 60 resistance means they take 60% less arts damage) whereas physical is reduced subtractively by defense (i.e. 1500 defense means they take 1500 less physical damage)
IS is integrated strategies, a roguelite gamemode where you can get a lot of resources from, Greyyalt is good in it because of his archetype, flinger, which has a very powerful relic in IS that buffs flingers
silence is an effect that lappland applies on each hit which disables an enemy from using their "skill" (i.e. origninium spiders won't explode on death)
DR is damage resistance, virtuosa is good at bypassing it because most DR in the game as of now only applies to arts/physical damage (after resistance/defense applies), but virtuosa inflicts necrosis, which in turn deals elemental damage, and since elemental damage is neither arts nor physical damage, it bypasses arts/physical DR

[grand basin]

man thats so complicatee

[opaque stirrup]

ak gets easier the more u play it

tryin to study everything like a homework will just make u burn out

failin stages and addressing the problem multiple times is the best tool to actually learn mechanics xd

[astral cosmos]

@willow sun@proud bluff@teal moon@smoky halo
operators who slow down the fuse with movement speed reduction:

• ines shadow
• mostima (both with talent and s3 proc)
• harmonie s2
• chalter s2/s3
  operators who don't (seem to):
• all ambusher mods
• ascalon s2
• spalter substitute (tested with mod x even)
• mudrock s3
• saria s3
• lucilla s2 (so possibly an elite/leader enemy?? )
• gladiia s3
  mvspd operators who can't affect the fuse bc targeting:
• amiyi s2
• ely s2
• nightmare s2
• manticore s1
• frostleaf
• hibalter
• andreana
• feater
  can't test bc CN content:
• puzzle mod

(that was your daily schizo report)

[teal moon]

tried to check how it works from the game files but stopped after 15 minutes of searching and founding nothing

[astral cosmos]

it looks awful to check
I may have a way to check it easier but gimme a moment

[full terrace]

Emergency Elusive Merc, more or less

[astral cosmos]

nvm assetstudio only supports unity that's balls

ergh whatever

[willow sun]

ok ambusher mods and ascalon not working doesn't amke sense to me

actually a lot of them dont

[astral cosmos]

neither does it to me

[willow sun]

at first glance it looks like any slow thats tile-based instead of radius-based works

[proud bluff]

Idk much, but to me it seems like it's slowed "by area" if that makes sense

[willow sun]

and then you realize half the ones that dont work are tile based

[astral cosmos]

rainchan did mention "environmental" mvspd reduction but idrk what this entails

[willow sun]

we're not nerd enough 🥹

maybe chi would know

[astral cosmos]

i mean saria s3 is kinda by area isn't it

but tbh

it's likely just how it's coded by operator

[proud bluff]

Yeah it does seems like tile based slow, but i don't know enough

[astral cosmos]

[umbral jewel]

this stage seemed a little too easy and gimmicky

so im wondering if there's some kind of fun way they intended us to beat this stage and if any of yall know what that way is?

[astral cosmos]

@wicked viper do you happen to know anything about this

[willow sun]

push everyone into the holes so they can't step on fuse then nuke the dancers

i used degen on my trust farm team to pull everyone into this hole

[proud bluff]

If you clear it without putting everyone in the square, it's not a valid clear

[willow sun]

real, the dancers also walk over the bottom row so put them in the hole too ya

[astral cosmos]

@slender elbow thought that might interest you too

[slender elbow]

[umbral jewel]

why would you trust farm an EX stage

[opaque stirrup]

for flex

[astral cosmos]

it does look funny as shit

[somber stone]

Should’ve used ines s3 smh

[willow sun]

for trust

can't be wasting sanity now

[south spindle]

wait im not schizo?!

wtf

😭

[astral cosmos]

you are in fact not schizo

!

[willow sun]

ines s2 range expansion kept fucking up my autos and thats how i found out

she causes the right truck to trample the fuse twice on PV-9 instead of just once

curse you ines

too useful 💢

[south spindle]

LMFAO I didn't have that

Just was staring at a fuse go over a single ines tile

and was just

[shy estuary]

any chance someone can help me improve this team? I'm trying to clear Lungmen Downtown, I can get pretty far due to a borrowed wis'adel but i am struggling to break past 200 kills as invisible people and drones are destroying me, is it better to put more ground units on or start getting more air attackers?

[vocal leaf]

if the stage is easy enough, why not? like ex1 cm i only used 4 ops, easiest stage

[limber fox]

this stage has no right to be THAT hard
why tf W does so much damage there, holy sht

[umbral jewel]

you can 2 op one of the matieral stages

[hazy elk]

when it says permanently does it mean for the rest of the run or just the fight

[south spindle]

#is-station Better place to ask, but if it stacks outside of battle there will be an indicator in your inventory

[pearl breach]

The rest of the run.

[south spindle]

[pearl breach]

Similar like survivor contract where you get a charge for each battle

[hazy elk]

thanks i lost the next fight so i didnt really get to use it 😢

[vocal leaf]

ofc, i use 3 for rma tho (the only stage you should be farming) because i want the dp to quickly set up the other two

anyway, you rarely need a whole team for ex cm stages, so why not trust farm those too even if it’s just 1 time clear

[umbral jewel]

farming means repeatedly doing them
why do them more than twice

[vocal leaf]

no one is doing ex more than twice, that’s just how everyone refers to the act of bringing ops simply for trust

[elder flume]

Ambusher not hitting fuse makes sense tbh

Environmental is basically the word used for "because it correlates to the stage itself rather than having to find enemies it will hit anything as stated disregarding their invis invuln state"

Tho this is just old 2020 moment

Another example of targeting
https://youtu.be/5OEKQcSjhlQ?si=-m9GbQGtibx5k4Qp

[pure orchid]

Really nice gif

Manti hit someone supposedly out of her range

Does this include asca s2’s 60% mvspd by just simply being in her range?

I would’ve thought that was environmental at least

[south spindle]

#strategy message

[pure orchid]

Btw did you ever get an update on that bug report

[pure orchid]

Fucking fucking cursed

[south spindle]

Whos bug what bug lol

[pure orchid]

Rain

[pure orchid]

Btw no ping grrr

[south spindle]

Its okay me niether

🥲

[elder flume]

Its very rare for #bug-reports to have value

A mod didnt even know what was wrong with my gif until i pointed the anomaly

Always do your fafo

[somber falcon]

Isn't that a fairly common thing to happen?
Enemy mspd is fast, but op managed to lock on right before they left range

[elder flume]

Theres 4 enemies in range when the lock happens

2 left

She only hits 2 now

Disregarding the current 1 in her range and 1 outside

another example

[somber falcon]

[smoky halo]

maybe the fuse is invi and invul

[jovial nest]

what game mdoe is this again?

is this the auto-TD?

[scarlet mortar]

yh

aka the raidian event

[azure roost]

auto chess like

boring ass event

i only played it 3 times on cn

[raven nebula]

A enemy always leaks past mountain, rlly hard to get the 3 star here

[vital arrow]

Use spot then

3 block

[raven nebula]

They body slam him too

[vital arrow]

With a medic?

[raven nebula]

I tried this dropped ansel he still dies

[elder flume]

oh you havent used vanguard at all

[vital arrow]

And wisadel?

Dont use lapp there, drop a wisadel

Lapp is single target

He has like 3 enemies banging him

[raven nebula]

Nope doesn’t work

[vital arrow]

You tried it on that short amount of time?

[haughty flower]

Say wait a minute why is mountain skill recharging.

[raven nebula]

It takes to long

[haughty flower]

Don't tell me he's on s1

[raven nebula]

Cause her cost

[elder flume]

and theyre invis lol

[raven nebula]

S2

[somber falcon]

Show your team screen

[haughty flower]

Why did you toggle stance then?
Unless he got deployed super late.

[elder flume]

hes S1 btw

[haughty flower]

...

[vital arrow]

What level is your spot

Oh dear lord

[raven nebula]

Wait a second

[vital arrow]

S1 mountain

[haughty flower]

10/10 bait

[raven nebula]

I thought he was S2

[vital arrow]

Me when I dont realize I didnt press his skill once

[raven nebula]

Do I need to change it every time ?

[vital arrow]

Set it as default skill

Then take him out of the squad

Then put him in again

[smoky halo]

changing in ur operator list doesnt change in squad

[haughty flower]

Yeah no wonder why mountain leaked, bro was getting crippled and STILL gave you a 2 star.

[elder flume]

start with Fang to block right side
Lapp > Mountain > Wis > Pluma > Kroos
if Mountain dies then healer before Wis or retreat Mountain when low hp > put Spot

[raven nebula]

Nah ngl still leaked

[vital arrow]

Thats like

Baffling

[haughty flower]

Or just leave spot in and pop spot skill when mountain is dying.

[raven nebula]

Or died I mean not leaked

[haughty flower]

Have you raised skill level yet.

[somber falcon]

Literally just do this, but mountain s2 and put spot behind him

[raven nebula]

Only a few times

[haughty flower]

Mountain enjoys pretty decent gains from levelling because it boosts both his attack and self healing.

May wanna look into pushing it to level 7 if you can.

But even then, spot behind mountain should work.

[raven nebula]

That’s what I got rn

[haughty flower]

Do they die before you deploy healer

[raven nebula]

This time I was able to get one

[haughty flower]

Okay also I dislike the deploy order here.
Imo you should be doing:
Fang
Spot
Wis'adel
Then Mountain, Ansel, etc

[raven nebula]

Hey I won

[vital arrow]

Is no one on the left side

Killing the balloons?

[haughty flower]

Eh whatever no CM so they can forget this stage.

Have fun in PV-4 lmao

[raven nebula]

No because I can’t

[vital arrow]

Wdym, you have plenty of time

[raven nebula]

I don’t

[raven nebula]

They kill n walk by so fast

[haughty flower]

My guess is their Kroos is underleveled.

[vital arrow]

I used rangers

[raven nebula]

Elite 1 level 40 but the stage is recommended lower

[haughty flower]

Okay nvm just skissue.
All good you cleared it regardless. Just remember during the fireworks phase kroos cannot die.

[smoky halo]

omg bassline

🥹

[haughty flower]

So you can put her in as risky of a position as you want since they physically cannot come off the field until you retreat her or fireworks ends.

[smoky halo]

now i need someone to help me

🥹

ex8cm too hard

[haughty flower]

Tf

[smoky halo]

how to time burst

do i need to calc device bleed

theres no homework to copy in arkrec as well 😔

this shit is so ass

[vital arrow]

Idk how theyre doing it but like

They might not be using the fireworks

[smoky halo]

fireworks is op

+50% atk

[still vessel]

you cant beat pv3 without fireworks

at least for a beginner

[haughty flower]

All I remember from this stage is 99% of the time when Lappy was all ready for DPS she tended to be on the top side of map.
Your results may vary though because I killed trucks early with Virtuosa Theresa combo.

[elder flume]

all comes back to fafo

using firework hp as measure sounds schizo

[smoky halo]

firework hp is the timer

i wish i can just do more dmg

with helidrop

🥹

but +rdp says no

wat now

😭

[haughty flower]

Just Virtuosa it

[elder flume]

SA pot 5 mod 3 moment

[haughty flower]

Does SA even make a significant dent in FRD cooldown in that stage.

[smoky halo]

im playing 4 star only

🚬

[elder flume]

its -twenty% so

[haughty flower]

You genuinely will have to fuck around with timing yourself then.
Stall out her phase 1 since it's infinite and there's 0 reason not to just keep stalling until you figure out the fireworks timing.

[smoky halo]

yeppers phase 1 inf time

[fathom pivot]

On a scale of 1 to 20
how screwed am I

[narrow pendant]

My internet is shit rn so i cant see
But imma say 50

[haughty flower]

Cope Ethan permastall :ya:

[narrow pendant]

Oh wait internet is back

And yea, still 50

Quite a bad draft for ed2

[azure roost]

so pro

[fathom pivot]

I had him low but I lost

(theresis, not ethan)

[narrow pendant]

Theresis
More like there, sis!

:ya:

[fathom pivot]

if only degen sp wasn’t drained by the status effects.

[narrow pendant]

Well, ye

Most guards are pretty shit in is5

Since necrosis is everywhere

[fathom pivot]

my guard line was bad either way ngl

or well

the guards I could choose was bad

[fathom pivot]

I don’t think Mylnar is good in IS5 right?

Actually nvm

forgot he can still be bait

[astral cosmos]

it does, but that means ambusher module actually needs to...hit enemies to work??? like how does that make sense in the grand scheme of things

[astral cosmos]

does harmonie s2 even affect invul normally 🥹

[smoky halo]

i have never used harmonie

go test ‼️

exec alter event boss stage

perma invul enemy

go test gogogogo

[astral cosmos]

oh ya

ill test this afternoon

hm I mean my exam is in 40 minutes so maybe I can test rn

[scarlet mortar]

yh everything besides the first group requires targeting actually

the second group is the same as the third

ambusher Xmods contrary to expectations require targeting, etc

ig what you mean by the second category is that they don't do it via attacks

[scarlet mortar]

yes

only the -mspd though, not the damage

[elder flume]

Harmonie doesnt tho

[astral cosmos]

doesn't require targeting?

[scarlet mortar]

she affects invis afaik

[elder flume]

invis yea but not invuln

[astral cosmos]

so it's not invul

[scarlet mortar]

i meang you can make that distinction

but the stuff abt the second category holds

everything there requires targeting

[astral cosmos]

which is odd bc i clearly remember gladiia s3 affecting invis

[scarlet mortar]

all the stuff in the first category doesn't

[astral cosmos]

but probably bad memory

[elder flume]

invis that has alr been revelaed right

[scarlet mortar]

that's kinda pointless no

most persistent effects that are applied before an enemy goes invis, stays once they go invis

and that's like all -mspd effects

[elder flume]

ye just asking about the Gladiia

[astral cosmos]

yeah this applies to stuff like hand of purification

[scarlet mortar]

i can't even think of a non-persistent effect lmao it kinda applies to everything

stuff like shamare S2

[elder flume]

i think Scene also works on fuse but this is hard to discern

5% slow be like

[scarlet mortar]

chain 3 robots and record diffs between autos

[elder flume]

oh it stacks huh

[scarlet mortar]

no as in cover the fuse line with the robots' ranges

idt it stacks no

[smoky halo]

so many nerds

wtf

how to become pro

[scarlet mortar]

become nerd

[elder flume]

Scene works

dp difference is pot diff

[leaden sierra]

So this question is a little specific, but I'm really curious. We know that gambling outcomes can differ depending on the device performance, but in the current CN gambling, there is more than 1 observer. I'm curious if who's actually running the simulation. The players or the HG servers?

Hello Rain! I tried the pv-ex-1 breeding strat and gave up after 1h 30m you weren't kidding about the RNG. I'll try it again later, tho.

[haughty flower]

The what strat.

[elder flume]

gluck breeding

you need perfect rng for crab to cover all the way btw

[full terrace]

Rain the glitchmaker 😂

[elder flume]

i just use Mitm for the last 4 spots because getting that rng is too much

[haughty flower]

That's impressive.

[elder flume]

if you can start from top then the rng isnt as bad

but getting cars to kill crab will be harder

[astral cosmos]

yeah i didn't test bc 8% seemed too hard to discern

but if it stacks

I mean if it really stacks it should be multiplicative anyway no?
still kinda balls to discern

[elder flume]

i will never use Scene enough to care

hence Eo 1

[glass monolith]

What 8%?

[elder flume]

slow

mod 3

goes through invis invul

[glass monolith]

Almost got my attention but I simply throw Manticore + chain casters to slow shit

[elder flume]

how you gona slow if invis invul

[glass monolith]

Say "game is shit" and Ines friend support

[elder flume]

sadge

btw @astral cosmos you cant say fuse is invuln because Lapp targets it at P2 start

oh wait does JJ have data on what fuse parameters has

[astral cosmos]

idk if he does

he gave up

[vocal leaf]

he’s always good, can be quite nice for the new stages as bait and damage dealer , but you need to play eyja instead of ng, the other two relevant 6star guards are ulpi and hoe

qiubai as well for stall

[fathom pivot]

What abt Degen

nothing muchv

?

[vocal leaf]

oh yeah she too, i just forget about her because i don’t have her

[fathom pivot]

ah

I mean her invincibility is nice to use

to save her from dying

guess im getting ejya support

rip BP
you carried me

[jovial nest]

I'm guessing unli Kohl's more valuable here sanity-wise?

[narrow pendant]

Ofc

[pure orchid]

Now i wanna know if you can slow gardener with mostima

[elder flume]

you can

[pure orchid]

sigh

[elder flume]

Ines Mosti Scene Chalter affects Gardener

[pure orchid]

I give up

[narrow pendant]

Nver give up never what

[elder flume]

A

25

actually i can just cheese this right

[pure orchid]

Never give up on getting virtuosa offrate !!!!

[azure roost]

just get much kohl

[narrow pendant]

[azure roost]

until u have 2k

or more

[pure orchid]

Wtf am i supposed to do with 2k kohl

Do u mean 200

[maiden hound]

oil up with the kohl

[astral cosmos]

[elder flume]

PV EX 7

3 more stages to go

[pure orchid]

Erm thats your job

Turn around

[glass monolith]

I am super sick and still didn't touch EX stages

[nocturne cove]

Hope you get well soon

[elder flume]

go eat meds

[jovial nest]

I think I'll go with these hotspots.

[worldly comet]

@vital arrow I have a 5* selector and E2 booster if i am missing one i need

[long thorn]

Do you people do team changes?

[vital arrow]

This is an old account huh

[worldly comet]

yep, played in 2023 and came back a few days ago

[vital arrow]

Ugh this is a bit hard

Lumen wont save you really

[worldly comet]

Any other alternatives? or should i just give up on cutting fluid and wait untill the next event?

[vital arrow]

No blaze/thorns either

Well you could wait while I experiment with some stuff, and theres no guarantee I can make a stable auto

Or you can just farm the other stages

Something something PV10 has the lowest efficiency compared to other stages

[worldly comet]

oh

im gonna do that then, what was the unit you said i wanted to borrow? We something?

[elder flume]

wdym by team change

[vital arrow]

Wisadel

W alter

[worldly comet]

👍

[elder flume]

my team keeps changing each stage so lol

[long thorn]

I mean I am pretty new to the game.

[vital arrow]

Team change when one squad has 12 slots and vets have 100+ ops

[long thorn]

Solid team to begin at the start.

[vital arrow]

You generally have a core setup of like 6 ops

The rest changes depends on what the stage needs

[long thorn]

This is my squad

[vital arrow]

Astedia and aroma can go

[long thorn]

Out the team?

[vital arrow]

Well, make that astesia shamare aroma figurino

Those 4 are like, terrible

[long thorn]

I see.

And I also have Lappland, Ptilo, Specter and other character selector. Who should I go for?

[vital arrow]

Wdym, do you have those three or?

[long thorn]

No. A selector composing those four.

[vital arrow]

Idk your roster

[long thorn]

I’ll come back in a while.

Got some work.

[vital arrow]

Sure

[proven shore]

Do i need anti air for this anni main lane

[last mist]

Seems no i saw a 3ops clear with ascalon handling middle

[azure roost]

@elder flume

idk just put whatever

[last mist]

Im so stupid i forgor to change ifrit skill

[glass monolith]

Just deploy Logos is out?

[proven shore]

Perfect

[long thorn]

I am back. This is my remaining roster without the 3*

Forgive me for the overlaps.

[proven shore]

Can anyone other than ascalon solo lane hold the middle one in anni

[last mist]

Havent seen much tbh

[glass monolith]

https://youtu.be/LJgPd7a1X-Q?si=ZQ_N708gltjx4epu

[jovial nest]

I wonder if this is fine. 4 Sui-Shu (the talent) team as much AFK as i can.

I'm almost tempted to S3M3 CY for these purposes

[exotic needle]

I need a little help with Lungmen Downtown

My team is as follows:
E2 Lv.20:
Blue Poison

E1 Lv50/60:
Myrtle
Saria
Thorns
Nearl
Lumen
Lappy Alter
Silence

E1 Lv30:
Cantabile
Mousse
Kroos
Amiya

I tried to borrown Wis

I just reached 388

Mostly Drones get pass

[hasty spruce]

Whats the best way to not get all of your operatos burned and burst tal

[distant bough]

That's a crazy setup wtf

I really just stacked everyone near the blue boxes

[elder flume]

show map deploy if you can
mapark website would be great

[dusk quest]

2 frd spam, gravel and yato/jaye/red for example

[exotic needle]

Alright...

[elder flume]

BP need E2 24 atleast to tank if shes in front

change Canta to another sniper to fight drones

[last mist]

Afaik Eyjaberry S3 cycles good for this i could.be wrong

[full terrace]

Lame anni

That Shu didnt even heal a single time 😒

[last mist]

Mudrock is just there.... to trigger the god forbid i never knew shu talent 2...(geniunely thought it was only a sui talent)

[distant bough]

I find it so funny looking at everyone having semi-thoughtful setups

[jovial nest]

FUCK I forgot i had a Fia

[hasty spruce]

Tried this earlier but they all get burned

[distant bough]

When I legit just stacked as many units as I could and didn't care about the mechanics at all 😭

[jovial nest]

if you spawncamp them, they can't do their mechanics

[last mist]

Real

[distant bough]

If I outheal and outdamage they can't either ig 🙏

[dusk quest]

Talulah burn skill is 20 seconds apart I think, so just drop the as soon as their redeployments are ready

And keep doing it

[pure orchid]

Nowadays, rarely

[distant bough]

I usually bring like 6 core units every time and then whatever I feel like will work well based on map layout

And/Or based on current map mechanic

[dusk quest]

Finally some tsuki stages, cm is even better for her

[full terrace]

Here #strategy message. I'll repost:

JT8-3 basically you need to survive ignition, the crossfire explosion, and the fireballs. There are 2 techniques to counter them:

1. The FRDs technique like this #strategy message. Basically you bait the ignitions with 2 FRDs every 20 secs (Talulah's cooldown is 19 secs), and then retreat. No ignited operators = no crossfire explosion. The fireballs damage can also be shared with your FRDs later.
2. The constant healing technique like this #strategy message and this #strategy message. Basically you use Nightingale's RES buff to survive ignition, crossfire explosion, and fireballs.

[hasty spruce]

I mean that could work but the other operators will die

[distant bough]

Nah because it'll be on cd

[hasty spruce]

Should i bring 4 healers?

[distant bough]

She can't just burn everyone

[dusk quest]

3 healers on that stage minimum

[last mist]

I think he means you'll be baiting the burn

She only burns 1 at a time

[hasty spruce]

That does NOT happen to me

[dusk quest]

She burns 2

[hasty spruce]

Tal burns 3 at once

[last mist]

Oh was it 2

[hasty spruce]

What

[last mist]

Honestly so long i forgot

[dusk quest]

She burns 2, and attacks a guy if not blocked with ranged sword slash or the guy thats blocking her with the same thing but melee

[full terrace]

Talulah burns 2 operators every 30 secs

[dusk quest]

But burn only on 2

[glass monolith]

She burn against faster than burn ends and she won't burn already burning target and 4 adjusted tiles spread on explosion.
Simple boss

[vocal leaf]

me spawn killing again

[jovial nest]

I keep forgetting I had Fia

I would've added Fia over Wis if I remembered

[last mist]

Same i just base slave her 💀

[hasty spruce]

So bait

Got it

[vocal leaf]

poor fia, annis are her specialty

[full terrace]

Lame ass anni 🤣

Oops sorry I forgot to turn off the ping

[last mist]

My brain is still ifrit loaded

Idk why i keep slotting ifrit than fia

[exotic needle]

Here it is

The map

[long thorn]

Could you like suggest a good roster based on my characters?

@pure orchid how would rate my squad

[stoic scaffold]

can someone help me with LS-5 stage? is my team good enough?

[elder flume]

bring everything forward 1
Lumen stays
Kroos on Wis spot
E2 24 BP on farthest right with Silence healing
change Thorns to Shaw E1 4o+ S2L7 under BP if you can
Thorns will be the back up for when crusher comes to Shaw
retreat Shaw when crusher enters Shaw range > plug the hole with Thorns after crusher is out of range
Wis can reach more enemies there

[vital arrow]

Its not good enough

Your team is simply underleveled

[stoic scaffold]

what about LS-4 then?

[vital arrow]

Sure, just bring an aoe caster

[stoic scaffold]

like deca?