strategy

[desert prairie]

yeah nvm its carnival shenadigans. it speeds up lappy tp speed, introduced another inconsistencies

so i have to somehow time her death

[brisk surge]

[steel prairie]

uhhh where can I even place my units without getting frozened ???

[desert prairie]

ranged tiles

middle

place defenders front to bait/a sacrificial ranged unit

[steel prairie]

??? isnt that right next to the ice blast ???

oh you mean the drones ?

[desert prairie]

you need something to kill drones

2 AA snipers

one AoE sniper

[steel prairie]

ik but wont the ice blast thing also freeze the snipers ???

[desert prairie]

one blast cant freeze

need 2 overlapping

[steel prairie]

oh

oh ic

[desert prairie]

i think its only this tile if i remember correctly

the main issue are drones and weebs. spider can be countered with lappy, assassins, or pusher

[limpid ore]

this was a fun stage

[desert prairie]

No its not, i have an even better run before where lappy p2 didnt enter while carnival

Whats the difference between that and this?

@elder flume good luck. Im kinda busy so cant analyze it rn
Could be something ridiculously obvious, or something weird

[elder flume]

kekw

havent watched but from text alone im thinking of tenacity or chill or enemy targeting

prob none of that

she seemed to flinch when i tried to shift her but could just be her being silly

[brisk surge]

but he has diff placements of amiya

[desert prairie]

Amiya placement shouldnt be a factor

The main diff is myrtle deploy on the mid box

My first successful test run is using siege, thinking might as well predamage her on mid box, oh that wasnt that helpful

But now i tried the same thing with myrtle and it works??

Thats the only thing that came to my mind after a couple failed runs because of early lappy

[desert prairie]

I used -70 aspd, green bog

Chill sucks without freeze ops. Tenacity is like asking for trouble

[elder flume]

tenacity isnt that bad

only works thirty% of the time but its ok

[desert prairie]

no i figured it out

carnival started way too late

so it carries on to the rightbox

which then speed up lappy sp gain, letting her tp early even after carnival ended

so i cant let it be too early or too late

i need carnival to start a few seconds after she enters p2, and ends before/while she tp to rightbox

that is fucked up

[flint tulip]

I trink that i became the bad guy now because the first thing that they saw after going out of the red zone was 3 different bonks

[desert prairie]

standard procedure

hit the enemy where they least expect you to hit them

[flint tulip]

Chen too

[dusky hawk]

How to do PV-10

[desert prairie]

what r your ops?

[dusky hawk]

Sending

[desert prairie]

you need to play with lappy and deal with endless enemies

[desert prairie]

youre fickled

[dusky hawk]

?

[desert prairie]

borrow wisadel honestly. learn how to bait

you dont have the dps needed

[dusky hawk]

I will borrow wisadel but how to beat it with her

[desert prairie]

this is her tile facing right

spam s3 when things goes south

[dusky hawk]

Which tile

[desert prairie]

middle one

yeah youre fucked

[dusky hawk]

Wrong pic

[desert prairie]

still fucked, you have to bait and keep wis alive with only 2 medics

[dusky hawk]

Wdym bait

[desert prairie]

last deployed ops gets targeted by enemy

boss have almost global range on P1

[dusky hawk]

Ah ok

[desert prairie]

theres probably plenty guides with wisadel in it

since she is effective at negating lappy

[dusky hawk]

Kk thx

[limber fox]

Surprises me how some of those people got past PV 9 and 8

Those levels r harder than pv 10 imo

[somber shuttle]

even if they can auto the previous stages there's still a chance to fail

otherwise just borrow, it cant be helped

[limber fox]

My pv10 auto goes weird in the end

But still works nonetheless

Nothing near as bad as the R6 boss

[sick knoll]

The event mats are so bad I have to farm green materials 😔

[somber shuttle]

my pv10 messed up cause of boss lapp kill gate
now that i have lapp2 mastery i might have to change it again

farming pv-9 cause fuck rma

[limber fox]

I just farm whatever i have under 60 units

[somber shuttle]

bros broke

still, focus on t3 mats

[limber fox]

Imagine being green mat broke

[somber shuttle]

green mats are easily farmable in story

[sick knoll]

Bother I have 150-100 on all of em

[somber shuttle]

or just doing 1-7 in general

[somber shuttle]

theres no such thing as enough

[limber fox]

^

[somber shuttle]

that will run out at approx. 2 months

[sick knoll]

What

On what

[somber shuttle]

raising stuff?

just stack up your mats alot

green can be ignored unless you're really that broke

then yeah...

[limber fox]

On the very next operator that asks for the same goddamn gel products for every single thing including the Skills, taking up to 40 units of mat

[somber shuttle]

for example uh

mudrock, takes more than 500 (?) green rocks, equals to 100 t3 rocks

[limber fox]

[somber shuttle]

and event has t3 rock farm rn, also rock in shop

you will save up time and shit if you do it

[limber fox]

As long as it aint grindstone

[sick knoll]

What

[scarlet mortar]

HG really put the grind in grindstone

[somber shuttle]

real and true

rma as well

[limber fox]

HG asks for the diference btw the two pictures

Theres no difference

[elder flume]

eh PV ten is a lot worse than previous PV imo

Lapp is annoying

[scarlet mortar]

it's fine i stocked up on 160 fluid

and unlike most people here idt i'll be logging in for the foreseeable month

[full terrace]

PV10 is harder than the previous ones yes

[scarlet mortar]

i afk'd all the stages up til it

[somber shuttle]

i have no fluid...

well granted this account is only a month old

can do pv10 just fine

had to look up a few strats though and modified abit

[elder flume]

thoughts on using instant level 8ty item for Sora

[scarlet mortar]

based

[rapid junco]

More heal from s1 good

[somber shuttle]

based

[steel prairie]

did I set up the other flank way too early ???

[somber shuttle]

which flank

also your setup is too far back, you're prone to enemy crowding (but i guess wisadel fixes that issue)

[narrow pendant]

Blaze will die
Walter cpulve been placed right by the red box to spawnkill

[somber shuttle]

with that squad you better off setup your wis more to left

wis placement

[hollow orchid]

Yo how you use this?

[somber shuttle]

if you have lin then its whatever placement

[rapid junco]

Wis abuse

[hollow orchid]

Just place?

[narrow pendant]

Well, yes

[somber shuttle]

the ops in your graveyard gets transferred to deployment waiting zone

then they cost 0 dp once appeared

[steel prairie]

oh ic

[somber shuttle]

so yeah just place it anywher

[rapid junco]

It's just let you recycle your sniper and caster
Just deploy it

[steel prairie]

oh I thought Blaze can hold her own lol... also who is Walter ??? a boss ???

[narrow pendant]

W alter

[somber shuttle]

from breaking bad

[rapid junco]

[narrow pendant]

The bitch u put aall the way back

[somber shuttle]

yeah, very bad wis placement

you can ignore my placement if you have lin, that strat is letting wisadels crystals tank the ranged hitters

just put wis where she can hit more

[steel prairie]

is this better ??? do I need to relocate more to the center ???

[somber shuttle]

your wis is going to die later

honestly just test that run and see what's going to fuck up

[tawdry path]

Wis looking really bonkable with a snowball

[narrow pendant]

Shes camo'd tho

What are u guys saying

Smhmh

[hazy sinew]

clueless

[steel prairie]

lol speaking of that... ok you know I placed Lin first right ??? and then later W... yet for some reason the caster decides to only yeet their snowballs at Lin (she did later die once... reduced to atoms) but now I placed her again lmao (wtf why arent they going for the cockroach she was placed last and closer)

[narrow pendant]

Because she has camo

So shes invisible to ranged enemies

And the thing they can attack, are her shadows
Who are further away than lin is, so they are prolly oit of range

[steel prairie]

is W having camo her passive ???

[narrow pendant]

When shes next to her shadows yes

[steel prairie]

bruh how broken did they make W to be ???

[narrow pendant]

Broken enough ig

I dont use her

[somber shuttle]

oh i didnt noticed the camo, shit has unnoticeable visual cue

[rapid junco]

Uhhh, just read her kit

[somber shuttle]

also her camo comes from her first op before her alter, so i guess that

or was it dodge rate? idr

[somber shuttle]

if lin dies just use the wis crystals instead

[nocturne cove]

Scene is actually so good in this event

[limpid ore]

eh

just use the firework

🧨

[full terrace]

I should have leaked him

How is your Quilon journey there @tidal sedge

Floor 4 Petal + Floor 5 Karma cant go wrong with that

Lv10 Command Level

I got a 10k Logos attack that was quite fun

[worn spire]

Hello, I've been having difficulty clearing PV 8 of event, I managed to clear it once during practice but wasn't able to recreate it ever since. Can you recommend me some tips or lineup I can use for this stage? Here are some of my units and units I can build for it if ever they're useful (ignore the guys tho, I only do all-female lineups)

1st pic is my standard lineup

[steel prairie]

wait both Frost boss fight have the exact same layout ???

[elder flume]

And whats the reason PV8 kills you?

Im guessing cars

[worn spire]

Yes, specifically the ones throwing bombs that reduces block by 1

[tidal sedge]

I've been trying to use Lamp + Sniper/Medic but that was an awful experience since I couldn't draft everyone I want to and the debuff from petal is quite big.

(Even tho Lamp is nice, since you can force Flinger hand and king set)

What squad have you been using? I am thinking of switching back to BP plus Talons ngl.

[elder flume]

Saria S1
Change Texas to a medic
Lapp can silence the -1 block
Bait with Gravel or CS if you need to
Get more 3 blocks

Also i prefer Tenacity or Burn for fireworks

Youre lacking dps

[vocal leaf]

did you lose the first time? i didn’t let anyone get in the boat

[sly drift]

You can just murder them when they try to extinguish the Carnivale. Save all you skilll for Carnivale

Lappland works well. Silence goated.
Use defender to Block all the Ice cream truck, silence the bear truck. Simple actually

[vocal leaf]

quilon could be a perfect ed2 boss with the typical jumpscare mechanic that makes you lose

[tidal sedge]

Time for Ed2A

[full terrace]

I use various squads, I'm grinding for squad icons
Lamp guarantees you Hand of Rumble and King Relic set but thing is, you can only get 1 relic per Wish Fulfilled node, so to get them all (Hand of Rumble and King Relics) you'll have to waste like 5 nodes and thats like wasting an entire floor! You already wasted Floor 1 hunting for Doodle/Talon/Lamp and Shrivels, now you are wasting Floor 2 for these relics as well. On Quilon run, running this method means your run begins at F3 and you have to pick up Petal by F4, you can see why you'd have awful experience with that. Meanwhile, the conventional King Relics Encounter only costs you 1 Encounter node, and you didnt have to waste nodes trying to get there. Blueprint+Talon should still be best if you wanna do a full run.

[vocal leaf]

now i know i need at least ela+ray imagine in 6 months exialter+lemuen

[willow sun]

i also feel like sniper/medic + lamp has far more rng albeit less grind than blueprint, i’ve been finding my success with blueprint + lamp though, but i still prefer blueprint + talon for its consistency (it just takes forever in comparison)

[full terrace]

Nope, I havent lost to Quilon before, but then again this is only my 2nd Quilon

I need to find time to play

[vocal leaf]

but did you know the boat thing beforehand?

[tidal sedge]

Yeah

[vocal leaf]

not fair, you’re supposed to get trolled and lose at the end because no operators

[full terrace]

Yah I watched quite a few of videos before IS5 was even released

Quilon videos*

The boat thing was standing out quite a bit, I picked it up from the first video I watched

[vocal leaf]

nooo, you guys ruining the jumpscare experience

[full terrace]

🤣

I was quite excited back then

[modern plover]

Saying all this just to reach one conclusion "just be lucky and get lost treasure encounter"
Kinda nuts ngl

[full terrace]

Couldnt contain my excitement, decided to spoil myself

[vocal leaf]

i actually missed that from the actual is5 ed2, like i also lost the first time in is4 ed2

[full terrace]

Oh ya I lost my first IS4 Ending 2 attempt as well

That was pure blind run

I had no idea Eik runs like a madman

[tidal sedge]

I saw someone bring only Eyja alter for phase 2

Cause they didn't know how the mechanics work haha

[steel prairie]

Ok how yall do PV-9 ???

[full terrace]

I know it's harder after expansion but, its appearance rate is still decently high at F5 and F6. Also even if you didnt get it, other Encounters at latter floors are also giving you plenty resources, so your nodes arent actually wasted.

It's still a gamble I know, but the run is way more cracked if you do it that way

[scarlet mortar]

by afk'ing

[tired eagle]

Lapp 2 carry with sa and roach

[limpid ore]

there is better afk for pv-9
you dont even need heal

[scarlet mortar]

i mean yh that's nicheknights

the afk record's 2step lmao

[limpid ore]

if necrosis damage is considered niche, sure

[scarlet mortar]

no i meant my clear

also there's a 2step without necrosis

the records are qiubai S1 + either arturia S1 or ulpi S1

[full terrace]

Feels like I wanna raise my Qiubai for this Quilon

I mean my Nymph+Asca has better dps but Qiubai is more afk

[jaunty turtle]

hi im having a lot of trouble with this stage in IS5
i can't stop the little white things from entering the box
what's the right way to play the map?

[full terrace]

#strategy message

Emergency Kaz Falls it's better to avoid it like a plague

[pearl breach]

Dont pop the slug lol. You can just ignore them as they will fall into the hole.

[tidal sedge]

I lost 6 times to Kaz falls

One time Wis' normal attack killed a slug accidentally and RIP the run was over right there

[wicked minnow]

yeah i just avoid it

[tidal sedge]

Got my revenge with Wis E2 + Initial SP collectible tho haha

[willow sun]

i wonder if e2 wis can just nuke the spiders with camo and dip
assuming you have ops to take care of the other 19 enemies or snowsant’s safety crane

[scarlet mortar]

iirc the relicless strat is just to face wis into the corner

[tidal sedge]

Ah camo I'm not sure, as long as she can activate S3 asap

[pearl breach]

Wis has mini AOE. The mini slug will just pop up in her range before she is able to activate her S3.

[willow sun]

oh i meant s2, i forgot it had the same helidrop time though

thought it was 5s for some reason

not even with some good timing to buy her like 3 seconds between the slug spawns?

or does necrosis just pop too fast

[tidal sedge]

Also the stages with W as a boss are annoying too

[pearl breach]

Hmmm

Brb. Im gonna try this out

[willow sun]

i’ll go test it too yeha

i feel like you have time

[pearl breach]

It works lol

But I got lucky and have snowsant crane early

S3 works, so I assume s2 will work too

[willow sun]

yeah both have same wind up at m3

good to know

i’m still trying but my wis is still e1 at f3

no sniper voucher, this is so ass

ok i pulled it off on some dogshit doodle run, but got sufferings the node before 🥹
if no sufferings wis would’ve definitely just kicked his shit before kicking the bucket herself, i find waiting a bit so she wastes shots on the automaton thing at the bottom helps

i could’ve definitely been smarter with when i used her skill so she didn’t nuke herself but oh well im dumb

[hollow orchid]

which one that stronk in IS mode?

[pearl breach]

Hmm.. though option. All 4 have their own usage on IS.

[hollow orchid]

which one that moar futureproof ?

[elder flume]

I prob will choose Asca

[hollow orchid]

or make life moar easier

allright asce it is

[sweet iris]

HELP....

[worn spire]

Thank you, I'll try these

[prisma swift]

i think that stage is particularly hard

u would want to avoid it

[pearl breach]

Bro can win if he is being patient and wait for W to pass.

Bet that rosmo being killed when W spawned

[sweet iris]

WHOS GONNA KILL THE GHOST GUYS

the damn horn sarkaz killed all my op that i deployed T.T its so unfair

[hasty spruce]

stupid ass citizen

[narrow pendant]

What if they arent the srupid ones

[maiden hound]

play hortus

[faint loom]

Hello! I’m new to the game and I need some advice on team comp. Right now, my team is made up of the ones I’ve leveled to 40. Is there anyone else I should consider bringing or swapping in?

[somber shuttle]

dont sleep on the 3*s

[faint loom]

oh, okay

[somber shuttle]

fang, melantha, kroos, ansel, steward/lava

also spot once you get him

[glass monolith]

Kroos is good damage against drones. Steward gains talent to focus highest DEF enemy (Usually same enemy will have lowest RES). Cardigan more HP pool (better against casters), Beagle more def (better against physical)

[pseudo mirage]

yo, which one should I get Thorns of Mountain

here's my 6/5* roster

[somber shuttle]

this seems to be an old account, a returnee?

[pseudo mirage]

I just remember everyone praises Thorns

[somber shuttle]

get thorns

[pseudo mirage]

Yeah

aight

[somber shuttle]

you have so much shit for lanehold anyway (blez, siege)

so mountain doesnt matter

[pseudo mirage]

seems like mountain has a niche but that's all

[glass monolith]

Thorns is great assist in Annihilation auto - also hit air. Mountain is cheap way to start stages

[somber shuttle]

mountain is only good for very new players

[pseudo mirage]

Thorns is generally just so good from what I've experienced

[somber shuttle]

since you pretty much get his full utility once e1-ed

thorns need e2 tho,, so prob why they tell to not pick thorns for new peeps

[pseudo mirage]

(not me being broke for dumping my leftover resources into Decadenza)

but hey I'll work towards it

[scarlet mortar]

blaze is cool but mountain would replace siege quite handily

since siege isn't genning enough DP herself to deploy your bigger guns you'll likely have a second vg

not a high bar to make siege's DP gen negligible after that

[pseudo mirage]

well I got thorns

[pseudo mirage]

I do make frequent use of myrtle though

[scarlet mortar]

imo both suck in the big 25

[pseudo mirage]

actually pretty much in every stage

Yes I am aware lol

I have not caught up to The Big Powercreep™️

[civic bear]

u got myrtle so thats good enough

[pseudo mirage]

also Elysium but I haven't leveled them up yet

[civic bear]

the two choices kinda whatever

[scarlet mortar]

blaze, SA, schwarz still have good output so you'll be fine if you just get back to farming

lapp and specter are still good as ever

oh you have lapp the unemployed, lmao it's fiiiiiine

[pseudo mirage]

of course

Getting lapp was imperative

everything else was secondary

don't underestimate the power of a wolf with a welfare check

[full terrace]

Who gave her nickname Lappland the Unemployed 😂😂

[elder flume]

Google translate

[scarlet mortar]

yo*

i'm glad her intro preview gave her a clown shoes nickname, it was hard enough to pass texas the omelette as funny

[sly drift]

The profile on her Bio literally stated that lol.

[glass monolith]

French RESistance strike once again. Okay, back to using my favourite puller "Dark" to hole enemies

[faint loom]

Something like this?

[glass monolith]

Looking good for early content

[sly drift]

Bluepoison on early is really strong actually.
If use that account I will rush M3 blue poison

[faint loom]

okay, it's just seems the only thing i can upgrade so far is the level and skill

i think i need to progress further

[somber shuttle]

yep, looks good to me

the only issue i could find is no damage carry

use the e2 tix asap

and just borrow

[faint loom]

what's m3

[faint loom]

what's this

[glass monolith]

Btw 3* don't need additional chip farming for first promotion. 4* need chips but don't need AP stages for second promotion. No luck for 5* and 6*. But there is free second promotion 5* ticket in future for players

[faint loom]

what do i borrow?

[scarlet mortar]

check your depot from the home screen

[somber shuttle]

insta elite 2 ticket

[sly drift]

Mastery 3. You don't need it for now because material efficiency

[somber shuttle]

cancer woman (w alter)

[faint loom]

oh, this?

[somber shuttle]

bp i think?

[autumn galleon]

hello, is pv-10 possible with this team, I've used up 60 drill plans lol and still can't beat it

[somber shuttle]

upgrade your logos

!!!

its possible, maybe?

[glass monolith]

SL - skill level, shared by all operator skills. M - mastery (further upgrade of maxed skill level after second promotion, per skill). E - Elite, aka promotion.

[somber shuttle]

there is a few logos carry strats for pv-10 out there

try looking into it (ive used one)

[scarlet mortar]

i'd say yes but those are some weirdly levelled ops

[elder flume]

Why is Logos S1 btw

[autumn galleon]

um wdym

[faint loom]

oh, thankyou so much
this helps a lot

[autumn galleon]

I tried s3 but the uptime on the skill is too slow

[somber shuttle]

not m3?

[scarlet mortar]

lower rarity ops would do well at those levels, but E1L60 6*s are ehhhhhhh

[somber shuttle]

didnt game just gave free m3 ticket

or did you waste it alr

[peak vale]

how good would exu alter be with ntrk?

[autumn galleon]

I'm a new acc who just got e2 rights

[glass monolith]

Free m3 is for 5* I think

[autumn galleon]

It's for 4 stars

[somber shuttle]

huh

[autumn galleon]

ya

[glass monolith]

Oh neat

[somber shuttle]

i swear to god i just had one

[elder flume]

Eh even so timing S3 should do a lot better than S1

[somber shuttle]

coming from a month old account here

[autumn galleon]

lmao

[faint loom]

okay, she'll be useful even in the lategame content? or it's just to help me push in the early?

[glass monolith]

I need to recheck what half of this trash does

[autumn galleon]

yea it's true the first couple of runs s3 was better

[somber shuttle]

both

[autumn galleon]

but I just tried it with s1 so

[somber shuttle]

she will be replaced though

but still for a long time

if you get kroos alter then yeah, and other better snipers

[faint loom]

okay

[glass monolith]

There will still be low DEF enemies at most points of game so usefulness of operators not as diminishing as in some gachas

[autumn galleon]

as you can see I used my e2 ticket on fangalter lol

I tot her design was cool ._.

[faint loom]

good to know

[somber shuttle]

eh should be fine

[faint loom]

thanks

[autumn galleon]

but ya it seems like pv 10 ain't possible with my team rn

I shall prio e2 the rest of my team

[somber shuttle]

dont have to auto it, no?

[scarlet mortar]

if it's doable it's gonna take a lot of elbow grease

[somber shuttle]

just borrow and clear

[faint loom]

what about this one? i still have any that met the requirements tho

[somber shuttle]

main farming stage is pv-9 anyway (rma)

[scarlet mortar]

actually who else do you have

[autumn galleon]

yeaa

[somber shuttle]

yeah just borrow

wisadel

unfortunate

[somber shuttle]

save it for the better

[autumn galleon]

here's the rest of my box

[somber shuttle]

im saving mine for tequila, kroos alter

or medicmiya

[autumn galleon]

mhm I see kyostinav even use wisadel for low end clear lol

[scarlet mortar]

ok if you want to be real silly you can dps lapp with cliff S2

[autumn galleon]

WHAT

[scarlet mortar]

true damage lol

[faint loom]

okay, thanks

[scarlet mortar]

i would not recommend

just a passing thought

[autumn galleon]

I got virtuosa :DD

[glass monolith]

That's free mastery 3 ticket. Need promotion 2 5* first. And skill level 7 most likely too

[scarlet mortar]

virtuosa also works, idr if her range reaches lapp though

[autumn galleon]

it does but only the 1st phase

[scarlet mortar]

oh yh among other things, get logos mod3

it allows him to combo with virtuosa and bypass res/DR

[autumn galleon]

gotta grind to ch 11

I'm on c7 but I wanna e2 my ops first before patriot

[scarlet mortar]

you can head to act 2 rn

[autumn galleon]

do u think I can clear all chapters to 11 with my current teams?

[autumn galleon]

eh hehe I actually read the story :DD

[somber shuttle]

im talking about this one awhile ago (ignore the mastery)

[scarlet mortar]

ch9 only needs you to clear act 0

[somber shuttle]

they gave this out last month, or in early apr

iirc

[autumn galleon]

hm I'll go check

[somber shuttle]

i guess the guy missed it

[autumn galleon]

heyy

I played this game for 3 weeks okay

[somber shuttle]

tis fine

[rapid junco]

Hey chat, what's cooking

[autumn galleon]

tis for 5 stars mb

[somber shuttle]

hmm

[scarlet mortar]

urmum

[somber shuttle]

i guess you missed it then

[scarlet mortar]

🏃‍♂️

[autumn galleon]

hello sir can help me clear pv 10 with this team?

[rapid junco]

I miss my mom

[teal moon]

I'm pretty sure there is a ling clear for pv10

[rapid junco]

Damn bro, only lvl 1 logos

[autumn galleon]

yes yes solo ling

[scarlet mortar]

yh ling solos

[autumn galleon]

whattt I'm tryna e2 all my ops gimme time 😭

[rapid junco]

Borrow s3 amimyi angle real?

[autumn galleon]

no borrows..

[rapid junco]

[autumn galleon]

yea it's prob impossible

byebye

[teal moon]

well, you can clear it next year then

[scarlet mortar]

feels like you E1'd too many 6*s at the same time

[autumn galleon]

yep but I don't regret it

it was so fun clearing stages with them

[scarlet mortar]

could've put those levels on more generic 4*s and reliably cleared normal stages

ah well

[rapid junco]

I can't simulate same lvl of squad. My 6* are e2

[autumn galleon]

suffering from success

:((

[azure roost]

how this?

e1 40 blaze can survive bottom right?

[teal moon]

the only one suffering here is you

[autumn galleon]

okay u don't have to tell me that

[rapid junco]

If you will to borrow s3 nymph for the win 🤫 since you only need s1 virt for the elemental burst

[somber shuttle]

no heals on top side?

[autumn galleon]

nah it's fine I'll clear it next year!!

[scarlet mortar]

hmge anw the basic strat is to use the mud fireworks or sth ig

[autumn galleon]

frfr

[teal moon]

no shaw on bottom side?

[glass monolith]

Does just IRL suffer count?

[scarlet mortar]

we love -70 aspd

[somber shuttle]

-spd and -mvpsd yeah

best one for sv-10

[tough bolt]

love it

[scarlet mortar]

it's the best one all around imo

[rapid junco]

You can do it with borrow
You won't farm it anyway cuz it's succ ass slow

[autumn galleon]

I've been using burn the whole time

[somber shuttle]

i cant show my auto with logos/lappalt since its bricked rn (lappalt mastery)

[scarlet mortar]

burn is bait

[somber shuttle]

fuck

[glass monolith]

Wasn't it chain medic who can heal with her... Behind her

[autumn galleon]

butbut it a challenge

[somber shuttle]

im not familiar

[scarlet mortar]

only the fireworks' dealing the burn damage lmao

[teal moon]

I doubt she can, I remember some bulky enemies on the later waves

[somber shuttle]

but i guess should be fie

[autumn galleon]

If I borrow I lose my self worth :((

[scarlet mortar]

that's like no damage

[rapid junco]

With that kind of squad, sure it's a challenge

[scarlet mortar]

if you don't want to wait a million years in phase 1 sure you can use the burn fireworks

[teal moon]

you already lost your self worth by not being able to clear it alone and asking to #help

[autumn galleon]

Is it that badd

[scarlet mortar]

eh nah

it's just not free

[azure roost]

mmm

[scarlet mortar]

i've seen worse

[autumn galleon]

help giving me depression

[rapid junco]

Well, no
But for this sv 10, you need true damage
You dont have

[autumn galleon]

aaaa

s2 virt will carry??

[scarlet mortar]

wdym just -70 aspd lapp and open fire

[rapid junco]

28k damage per blue moon

[scarlet mortar]

cluel

[teal moon]

you don't "need" true dmg

[rapid junco]

I mean, bro can ya
He have shu for stalling

[glass monolith]

(pulls out Kroos alter + Sora)

[azure roost]

@teal moon oh im good enough

[scarlet mortar]

good thing all his dps is ranged so he can just avoid using ground tiles and getting debuffed

[teal moon]

didn't see lapp2, she can probably help with that

[somber falcon]

Can probably somehow manage if you can afford logos 60 s3m3 within 2 weeks+

Hopefully

[autumn galleon]

LMAO

yea I'll do that tmr morning fr

[rapid junco]

The problem may be on the swamp party

[autumn galleon]

how dare u call my party a swamp 😦

[rapid junco]

Since fire lady quite scary if you not handle them

Not your squad

[autumn galleon]

oh yippeee

[scarlet mortar]

i believe in logosadel

[azure roost]

good run

[rapid junco]

No borrow 🤫

[azure roost]

amni 3 autoable now

[scarlet mortar]

logosadel is just logos

[azure roost]

well i alreayd beaten latest anni but didnt bother autoing it

[glass monolith]

#strategy message I think he means this swamp

[azure roost]

since 6 days gonna go

[autumn galleon]

wait can you fossils clear it just fine?

[rapid junco]

[azure roost]

[rapid junco]

Fossil clear?

[azure roost]

papika carry

so true

[autumn galleon]

yes is this considered a hard event stage for u to clear?

[rapid junco]

Uhh, no

[somber falcon]

Not remotely

[rapid junco]

You just don't have the ppl because no borrow

[teal moon]

more difficult than Vina event for sure

[autumn galleon]

vina was stage 10 so ez even I can clear it :DD

[rapid junco]

There's a guide for ling and fren

[glass monolith]

Well boss is pile of random BS go but outside of that event is not as bad as some

[autumn galleon]

ela stun carried me

[rapid junco]

You want to fast kill phase one lap if don't want eternal party

[glass monolith]

My weakness is inability to time shit. So I have moments like 15 invis guy on top of Carnaval when it turns off so they just leave

[somber falcon]

Where aoe smh

[rapid junco]

Logos s3 are aoe🤫

[somber shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-limbus-project-moon-library-of-ruina-ruina-gif-9307471396915231164

[glass monolith]

Died to Lapp boss S3

[teal moon]

rule 4 violation, call the mods

[somber shuttle]

no!

[tough bolt]

bom

[autumn galleon]

wait I got an idea! 😄

can fire guy be silenced

[rapid junco]

I hope so, lappy can't tho. They still have the fire ring

The idea is handle left with shu s1 + DPS. While you doing cheap damage to lappy with virt + logos...

Will take years

Don't forget swamp party force all enemy to hitting fireworks 🤫

[somber shuttle]

or if they could time it well when Lapp's DR is down

logos burst + any shit that could help

[rapid junco]

Ya, and it's when the swamp party happened

[somber shuttle]

lemme check if my pv-10 got bricked

[autumn galleon]

sorry I still don't get the swamp party even after the picture

so what's a swamp party?

[rapid junco]

It's when your fireworks lit

Enemies horde

[autumn galleon]

oh that's ez to handle for me

ela and logos melt them

[rapid junco]

They will rush to middle to attacking fireworks

[autumn galleon]

even lappland?

[somber shuttle]

it did, fuck

[rapid junco]

The problem is fire lady also doing it while lappy blasting

[autumn galleon]

so I can bait lappy first with fast redeploy like gravel?

ohh

[rapid junco]

It's the only time you doing damage to lappy cuz loss the dr

[autumn galleon]

wait it might work

[somber shuttle]

you can bait lappy

[autumn galleon]

I'll go try it thanks

[somber shuttle]

her silence is annoying but easily nullified by a fast rdp

[limpid ore]

you can even use the firework to deals burn damage

[rapid junco]

Ines was can handle right side but my Ines maxed so

[autumn galleon]

still I find that slow works abit better

[autumn galleon]

mine can't.. she is a early dp slave :DD

[limpid ore]

-# honestly i just used necrosis and ignore the shenanigans

[autumn galleon]

booo brainrot clear

[rapid junco]

Virt + nymph s3 my beloved

[limpid ore]

logos s1 + virtuosa s1

[rapid junco]

Bring this to help and they will roast you

[limpid ore]

[rapid junco]

Bunch of hater smh

[elder flume]

Weedy S3

[rapid junco]

True damage tech real
Don't forget nightmare s2🤫

[autumn galleon]

mhm thank god strategy is full of kind and caring individuals

[rapid junco]

Unless green name 5 alphabet come in. I chill

[worldly stirrup]

Guys, reed alter still worth buy with gold cert?
I heard she is coming to shop soon

[rapid junco]

[full terrace]

Your crush? 🤣

Shall I ping him to come here 😂

[rapid junco]

I'd crash his skull

[full terrace]

🤣 🤣

[limpid ore]

with your thighs

[rapid junco]

I have a sledge hammer, why bother

[scarlet fulcrum]

Weird position ik, but its full afk

[rapid junco]

Logos abuse

[scarlet fulcrum]

he is the peak of afk skill

[rapid junco]

True buts still

[scarlet fulcrum]

I think i can optimize more with Ines, but then it will become not afk unless i use her s1

[rapid junco]

You can use s3 , it's literally afk if not second deploy 🤫

[scarlet fulcrum]

fr

[azure roost]

so pro

i just dont want to use the back

plus im gonna just skip it using tix

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nah Its just the enemies pathing simple here

[azure roost]

well ye

[azure roost]

i didnt bothr using it

[scarlet fulcrum]

[azure roost]

i just want to clear it

then skip tix

then wait for new anni

so i can auto there

@scarlet fulcrum i e2 lapp2 btw

next blaze

[scarlet fulcrum]

👍

[azure roost]

and done chp5

chp5

[scarlet fulcrum]

I got another lappdumb from free pull today

[azure roost]

5 e2s

i still need to raise other aa

i prob want greythroat

im tired using

krooster

[scarlet fulcrum]

That's quite progrees, but welp abundance resources unlike back then. Good time right?

[azure roost]

back then is drought

unlike now

you start a game

E2 ALREADY

[scarlet fulcrum]

fr

[azure roost]

and with e2 at start

the guide for next e2 changed

[scarlet fulcrum]

Change to better guide

[azure roost]

and ye free starter 6★

then u have newbie banner too

so kekw

lots for newbie to progress

@scarlet fulcrum rn im just eating PO at event to farm tons of mats

i didnt care about PO anyway

need to stockpile

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yea same, even do that in my main

This event farm node all on high demand

💀

[azure roost]

my alt³

unit

i still need to e2 blaze then surtr

oh ye htw

i forgot i got lin too

on gg banner

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nice

[azure roost]

so very stacked

@scarlet fulcrum i prob e2 cs but lots of prio

e1 should be enough for frd

and later when she is e2

imma abuse s3

[scarlet fulcrum]

I prob do weedy and lin, but welp the purpose not for that ig?

So have fun

[azure roost]

i prob need weedy

when cc#3.2 drop

need to prep

on it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yeah looks like doable on caster route

[azure roost]

and rope i guess e1

[scarlet fulcrum]

I meant higher than max rewards

[azure roost]

to pull tornado machine

at center

god i want to raise mitm

but i already have vigil

[scarlet fulcrum]

The true carry

[azure roost]

using vigil wolf abuse 3 block

is always goated

u can just ignore him on trash pile enemies

[azure roost]

90% of dps

oh ye what next when lapp2 event ended

i forgot

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yea, both want investment too. Surely just use em as e0 meatshield

[azure roost]

kirn why so nuch event happening

[scarlet fulcrum]

ZT

[azure roost]

may 1 laterano balls event

cn

[azure roost]

FUCK

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yea, we still waiting for lemuen number

[azure roost]

no lessing pots cert

i hate u hg for thay but glad u back it

the tokens on lapipi event

instead of fucking paper shit

for operator dupe

[scarlet fulcrum]

I checked we will get stronghold protocol first

[azure roost]

oh i dontnliek that event

i didnt even play it fully on cn

its just boring

honestly for my opinion

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea the most common impression ig

[azure roost]

didnt event bother for reward

i just play it and cleared 3 game

then dip out

[narrow pendant]

Hey, theres kids around

Smh

[azure roost]

balls u

@scarlet fulcrum but ye excited to shred fn on chp 6 again

for fifth time

[scarlet fulcrum]

I forgot her res, is it just 50 or smt

[azure roost]

50 res
380 def

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its probably cinch

[azure roost]

so you u just do whatever

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not even close yea

[azure roost]

then stall

i prob just press my logos s3

kirn what mats again on ZT rerun

i kinda forgot

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oriron mainly

[azure roost]

oh

i prob need to stockpile again

i have 200ish of it

ngl this acc

i would to get offrate arturia

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh wait device

[azure roost]

FUCK

Zdveice

DEVICE

[scarlet fulcrum]

I just checked

[azure roost]

imma farm 300

my supplies is at 150

so low

[scarlet fulcrum]

So dang yea, oriron+device cope

[azure roost]

prio device

[scarlet fulcrum]

I prob will check future event to decide prio

[azure roost]

because device node event is very rare

to come by

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea

[azure roost]

and stockpile as much you can

damn all annoying mats

back to back

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yu event has device and alloy

Babel rerun has oriron and gel

Guess i will farm em all

[willow sun]

@scarlet fulcrum i spent 5 days of my life for 30k lmd 🥹

[narrow pendant]

Hah

[willow sun]

shut up!!

i'll wait 6 months and get the e2 90 voucher on 6th anni web event

just you watch

[narrow pendant]

I got mat vouchers twice and lvl80 thing🥱

Im lying, i got the same thing as u

[willow sun]

i actually got lmd 6 times cause 4x on my main and 2x on my alt

and my friend got it 4 times himself, but one chip etcher so i hate him

[pure orchid]

anyone got an alt to spare

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

[willow sun]

why not just make your own ya

[pure orchid]

i... no...

[willow sun]

waow lazy...

how else will you get your 30k lmd!!

[pure orchid]

aghhh...

[smoky halo]

raise mitm

very cute

🤫

[willow sun]

@wicked minnow am i crazy? why did desmos make it so graphs are still translucent when you toggle them off

[wicked minnow]

huh

lemme check

no it works fine

[willow sun]

what is this 🥹

its annoying me so much

[wicked minnow]

this is what schizophrenia is like

you cant toggle the voices

[willow sun]

it might just be my computer crying out for help cause the formulas are kinda fucked

[wicked minnow]

maybe desmos is trying to make it transparent but it's lagging so hard it's still updating

[willow sun]

yeah thats what im guessing

i can still add new functions though

yeah holy shit i just refreshed the page and it works fine now

but i can see a visible delay between opaque → translucent → transparent instead of just opaque → transparent 🥹

[wicked minnow]

lmao

[willow sun]

my poor pc, i'm so sorry

[wicked minnow]

[willow sun]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/frxuggeqt2
can you try running this actually, the blue line won't even finish calculating for me

its not a pipe bomb i swear

[wicked minnow]

bro what the fuck did you do 😭

it's dead ass going through phases

[willow sun]

I DIDNT DO ANYHTING I SWEAR

[wicked minnow]

what the fuck are you trying to calculate that needs summation

[wispy condor]

😦

[willow sun]

ive never had desmos make my computer cry before

[wicked minnow]

summation with a continuous domain

[willow sun]

cumulative binomial probability

[wicked minnow]

cooked

[willow sun]

it was originally just the red graph which is stepped so its only like 1000 calcaultions

but i think the continuous ones just bricked it

oh my god sliders aren't working

[willow sun]

LMFOA IM SORRY

i have to save and refresh everytime i want the graphs to update its so cooked

[scarlet mortar]

"it's not a pipe bomb i swear" sends zip bomb

technically bro wasn't lying

[willow sun]

well my zip bomb isn't even loading for me 🥹

PLEASE THE 1 IS RIGHT THERE

[scarlet mortar]

sorry you have to redefine numbers now

[willow sun]

ok well uh @smoky halo much to the detriment of my pc i have calculated that with 700 pulls there's approximately a 20-25% chance you can pot6 both sexu and lemon

[smoky halo]

💀

this shit is so ass brah

[willow sun]

light estimated 40% with his simulations

so maybe thats better 🥹

[smoky halo]

😔

[south spindle]

Aight

[acoustic slate]

Ay you got any sniper or spec tokens available?

[smoky halo]

theres 3 sets avilable for spec

[south spindle]

I think he said 3 sets of spec

[smoky halo]

sniper is 1 set

[south spindle]

Ill recalculate with that lmao

[acoustic slate]

I was about to say maybe they add more tokens on 6th anni but ig we would know if they did🥹

[south spindle]

73% if you use your tokens, only sampled 100K again

[willow sun]

oh wait

are we including tokens

i didn't consider that

@smoky halo how many pots are you buying with tokens

[south spindle]

He said 3 spec, 1 sniper

so starting values are 4 / 1 for me exu/lemu

(1 free at 300)

[smoky halo]

i can get like 3 sets of spec and 1 set of sniper

but thats in the future

cos i only have 4k CC currency

and it cost 6k to buy sniper and spec

:icant:

(i havent grinded IS2 yet too)

[south spindle]

🥀

o wtf fake poly

[acoustic slate]

Should be fine with ccb3 right?

[south spindle]

Uh so im a newborn how many tokens can you grind in CC

[willow sun]

ok so what im getting is

[acoustic slate]

Like 1.25 set per run if you could the extra currency

[south spindle]

theacc 600 or 700 rolls?

[willow sun]

1 pot of sexu guaranteed at 300
2 pots of either sparked
3 pots of sexu from tokens
1 pot of lemon from tokens
1 pot of sexu from IS2

[willow sun]

im graphing it so i can do both

[south spindle]

aight

Yeah im running over and over 73% +/- 1%

[smoky halo]

i still need to spark virt pots

😔

this shit is so ass 💔

[willow sun]

if all of this is right i'm getting ~89% for 600

[south spindle]

Im getting that 1% of accounts get P6 lemuen but not exu LMAO (P4 or P5 with tokens and free one)

[willow sun]

is this with 4 pots from tokens + 1 pot from IS2?

on top of the 2 pots from spark + 1 pot from pity

[south spindle]

oh

[willow sun]

so 8 pots guaranteed total

[south spindle]

5 pots

oh i didn't consider sparking at all

[willow sun]

ah

[south spindle]

i presumed no sparking for virtuoa

[willow sun]

oh

[willow sun]

are you sparking 2 tutus?

i keep dragging him back here

[south spindle]

So whats default pot

No escape

He asked for the odds

[willow sun]

true

[south spindle]

never ask me the odds

Oh wait 4 spec token pots?

My guy is starting at exu P5 from just pity/tokens alone?

Lemuen is standard operator you don't even need to even that crazy then

[willow sun]

i think so yeah

cause

1 from 300 pity
1 from is2 tokens
3 from red cert/cc shop tokens

[south spindle]

ye okay let me redo

600 x P5 / P1 base

[willow sun]

ya

[south spindle]

Check how many 6* you get over 600 btw

[willow sun]

i just divide mine by the average lol

[willow sun]

i'd do standard deviation stuff but i'm lazy

[south spindle]

Doing lower sample but give or take a percent

[smoky halo]

probably

rdp pot kinda good

my vec8 clear needed the rdp pot 😔

[willow sun]

i'm getting 20 6*

[willow sun]

smh p2w niche

[south spindle]

This is p5 / p1 btw... crazy it barely changes from p4 / p1 for me

[willow sun]

if you spark 2 tutus this is the chances i'm getting

and if you don't spark 2 tutus

[south spindle]

I’ll do spark in a bit class dismissed

Professor kicked me out

He thought I was being studious, lmao

[full terrace]

76 relics run but no King set at all, guess how many secs did Quilon last @tidal sedge

[willow sun]

thats.... oddly high just off of my gut feeling
lemme try to justify

[willow sun]

brah

[south spindle]

P5 and P1 start? I don’t think it’s that bad at all

[willow sun]

each rate up is a 35% chance when you pull a 6*
with 17 6* on average you're looking at roughly 6 of any specific rate up, but you need 7
that'd guarantee that the chance is below 50%

oh p5 p1 start

i thought this was p4 p1

lemme remath

[south spindle]

You know what else we can do 6* average with binomial distribution

[willow sun]

ok now i get 58% with p5 p1

[willow sun]

ye thats what i'm doing rn

[south spindle]

Wtf

[south spindle]

Ah yeah

[willow sun]

17 6*, chance of pulling 6 or more of any specific rate up

[south spindle]

I feel like there’s something flawed about that

[willow sun]

you could argue that "oh but theres one pot where there's a 70% chance instead of 35%"

which is probably what you feel iffy about

but logically i think it doesn't matter

cause once you hit that 70% 50/50 wrong once (getting sexu), its gone forever, and on the flip side you could never land that 50/50 and just get stuck with a p5 sexu and p10 lemon

[south spindle]

I think try the 5 lemuen seperately and

Surely you can’t get 0 exes in 17 right

LMAO

[willow sun]

shorely

[south spindle]

napkin math is best math fuck this

[willow sun]

true!

[wicked minnow]

napkin math is using averages uhhh

you have 700 pulls

38 pulls per 6*

[willow sun]

wtfart 38

[wicked minnow]

was it 34

light said it was like 2.81%

[willow sun]

my math says 34.4 but light's simulations gives 41.2

idfk lo

[south spindle]

41.2? No

[wicked minnow]

35.6

[willow sun]

oh wait i forgot about pity cut off

one sec

[south spindle]

Yea

[limber fox]

Whats the thing now

[wicked minnow]

ok 35.6 pulls per 6*

[willow sun]

wait no 700 is right on the border, its a pretty clean multiple of 34

[south spindle]

Average is 2.8 afaik okay

[wicked minnow]

35% chance for exu

[willow sun]

at very high averages it should be pretty stable

i'll assume 35 then

[wicked minnow]

700/35 * 0.35

this math isnt flawed surely

7 copies of exu

[keen gull]

U get guranteed exualt at 300

[south spindle]

Thank you

😭

[wicked minnow]

oh and + 1 from guarantee

[south spindle]

Who’s gonna tell him

[willow sun]

thats just average though

problem is we need probability

[wicked minnow]

probability of what?

[willow sun]

which is the stinky part

[willow sun]

basically

[wicked minnow]

50% chance you get 7

[willow sun]

fib is saving 600-700 pulls

[wicked minnow]

that's basically what i found

[willow sun]

and he starts with 5 pots of sexu and 1 pot of lemon

he's not sparking either cause he wants tutu pots instead

[wicked minnow]

you either get 7 or you dont which means 50% chance