strategy

[south spindle]

My logos S3 can kill both Alistar and both drones from phase 1
but S3M3

[full terrace]

Not exactly, you just deploy FRD right after you deploy someone

[modern copper]

shit he's m1 on my end

i shouldn't have neglected my skill raising

[full terrace]

So like this: Logos ~> Gravel, Ela ~> Texas something like that

[south spindle]

also gravel should go in the right side corners, if you put her too early something else might kill her

the cross attack CD is 25s, gravel is 16s

if you dont put her in the corners he will spawn lions

[modern copper]

are lions always in the corner?

[eager turtle]

there's any guide for GO-EX-8 without Mylnar?

[wintry gulch]

send roster (or just use support mlynar if you're willing to)

[wintry gulch]

if you still need help, s2m3 mod3 ulpianus should be able to deal with steam knight, i did it with lumen + ptilopsis + e1 gladiia on another account

[willow sun]

he says no gladiia

idk if he wants to get her or not

but yeah s2m3 ulpianus steamrolls the last steam knight

[wintry gulch]

ah

[willow sun]

@modern copper

my zuo le was m0, i got him to phase 2 but couldn’t keep zuo alive through steam knight’s phase transition

you can just use silencer s2 though

[full terrace]

Lions are created by Alistair when he picks up the idle wand equipment

[elder flume]

Alistair splash is every 30s btw

If its too hard to count in your head use the ops redeploy timer to time iti

[willow sun]

or the dp bar assuming your dp isn't full

[full terrace]

@modern copper Degen S1 and pick up the wand. Thats your squad.

Wand pick up positioning #strategy message

[willow sun]

are you sure that'd work? just all the, yk, levels and masteries

it might be a bit much, i was struggling just to use m0 zuo le

[full terrace]

Degen S1 Lv7 is 5 hits Offensive Recovery. With interval of 1.3 sec, she applies Frighten every 7.8 secs

[willow sun]

i moreso meant stuff like general dps

lemme watch the clear first actually

[full terrace]

It doesnt freaking matter. If Alistair lives, just let Logos stay on the field longer. If Logos stay on the field longer, just stall Steam Knight with Degen longer.

[willow sun]

jeez relax, i'm just worried that at a time like this someone could die and screw things up

[wicked minnow]

logos handles those drones in the first phase and the boss pretty damn well sheeesh

[full terrace]

Thats not even a problem, they were there to mitigate the damage on device. If the guy is so afraid to mitigate the damage he can just reposition Purestream, Logos, and Ela away. Also the freakin E1 Purestream could even survive that idk what your problem is.

[wicked minnow]

why are we mitigating damage on the device?

[full terrace]

I mean if you are so sure it wouldnt work, by all means show him the better method that will work smfh

[willow sun]

im more confident than not that it would work, don't put words in my mouth

[wicked minnow]

i feel like it should work. i dont see anything really on the margins with the strat

[willow sun]

yeah i had the wrong wording

[wicked minnow]

the one thing that was a bit ehhh was the drone that had a tiny sliver of hp that logos had to kill. i feel like that might be an issue on some runs but that's it maybe. maybe the timing of the skill wasnt the best or gravel can tank or smthn. everything else seemed solid i think

[full terrace]

The strat initially utilizes the device to bait few hits from the walmart steam knights and the drone when they get too close in case their Logos couldnt kill everything in time, that should buy his Logos enough time for the 2nd cycle.

I simulated it with max Logos and he kills but I mean, just in case

Also the missiles are kinda safe to tank when you have lots of units around the device with a Medic healing them

Will just hit everyone 1 time and thats it

[modern copper]

jeez

how are you this good at the game

are you endmin speaking from the future

[modern copper]

are you doctor speaking from the game itself

[wicked minnow]

that's what i've been saying bro need to make tutorial vids on a yt channel

[full terrace]

Thats just me panicking and activated his skill a bit early 😏

My eyes were on the top side watching Ceobe, Degen and friends

[pearl musk]

i did a funny strat for h11-2 and h11-4 where i sandwiched the steam knight between specter and spalter and cycled their immortality skills.

can i do the same for go-ex-8 cm?

[full terrace]

Should work if it did in H11-4

[wicked minnow]

huh, cool way of doing it

[fleet rapids]

Hellow guys, any tips for someone that just start playing IS5? Currently im level 18

[full terrace]

I would recommend you to do the main story first and E1 some units

And E2 your 6 Stars

[fleet rapids]

Ahh i forgot to mention it mb, for operators E2 skill its kinda okay and main story its already completed

[full terrace]

The whole 14 Chapters? What ops do you have there

[fleet rapids]

Im just that kind type of guy that never touch IS 😭

[acoustic slate]

My tip is start with IS2 and go in order

[wicked minnow]

if you are done with main story already getting into is5 should be no issue

also yeah what ops you got?

[fleet rapids]

Its fine right if i start with IS5?

[fleet rapids]

Sure sec

[full terrace]

Its fine if you have the ops. What do you have there

[acoustic slate]

Of course

But imo no. You will have a very steep learning curve for the mechanics and then the older IS will feel bland in comparison.

I think you (and anyone) should start with is2 partially to learn and partially because the newer ones will spoil you

[full terrace]

Ah you'll be fine

Thats a Lv18 account? Very impressive

[fleet rapids]

It is actually lmao

[fleet rapids]

Owh no, imean IS5 Level 18

My bad

[full terrace]

Ahhh

You'll be perfectly fine, start with triple borrow

[acoustic slate]

Get IS module for Kaltsit and Rosmontis/angelina when they release

[fleet rapids]

Noted itt

[full terrace]

Like this @fleet rapids

[fleet rapids]

Ahh interesting

[full terrace]

At F1, focus on doing Encounter nodes

[fleet rapids]

I can try

[full terrace]

For Shrivels and for Doodle/Talon

I'm assuming this is not a high diff coz well, Lv18

[fleet rapids]

Okeyy

[full terrace]

Do you have Blueprint squad unlocked?

[fleet rapids]

Not yet, long way to go xd

[full terrace]

Work on your Skill Tree while you play

And unlock the Blueprint, it will help

[fleet rapids]

Ahh noted it

[full terrace]

Yah that

Also unlock all Impressions as soon as possible

[fleet rapids]

If il do only some stright line is it fine?

[full terrace]

So that you can rob Cannot and whatnots

[full terrace]

You'll get them all eventually but yeah you can do that first

[fleet rapids]

I see okay ?

[full terrace]

Yah so when you reach Rogue Trader/Safe House/False to Truth nodes

There is a brain icon

Click that brain icon, and spend your Plans on it

[fleet rapids]

[full terrace]

At F1, Encounter nodes worth more than Combat/Emergency nodes

F2-F3-F4 Combat/Emergency > Encounter

F5-F6 fish for Encounters again

[fleet rapids]

Ahhh i see

[full terrace]

For King Relics set

[fleet rapids]

The benefit right?

[full terrace]

And Duck Speed Highway

Try to promote your borrowed Tin Man as quick as possible

He increases your Toil Limit

[fleet rapids]

Insane okay noted it

Any other recommendation operator that i need to promote?

[full terrace]

Shrivel and Sprouts on F1 will be carrying your run btw

[full terrace]

The borrowed max pot Wisadel is priority if you do so

I mean if you are using your own thats also fine

[fleet rapids]

Okay got it

[full terrace]

Kaltsit IS Module max that one out

Kaltsit will be your main carry for Ending 2 and Ending 3

[fleet rapids]

Kalsit Skill 2 or 3?

[full terrace]

Skill 3

[fleet rapids]

2 targets heal module? Insane

I didnt know that hahaha

[full terrace]

Its more for Mon3tr stats bonus

And the no deployment limit cost

[fleet rapids]

I see

Got it thankyou soo much

For the tips

[full terrace]

Best of luck, you'll kill it

With that overpowered lineup

[fleet rapids]

Its help me alot lol

[fleet rapids]

Yupp ✌️

[pure orchid]

My honest reaction: can you make me a hydrogen bomb

[wicked minnow]

i feel like you could've used a weighted average of some sorts for his rng

like. replacing his entire schtick with increasing the chance to double hit with a single crit multiplier

surely there was a better way of doing it

[willow sun]

nop no thanks

[willow sun]

that was a weighted average

lol

[wicked minnow]

oh... that's funny

[willow sun]

problem is each time he hits not only does his chance to crit change, but also his damage

so both have to scale at the same time

solution was just to copy and paste a bunch of the calculations with temporary summation variables and make sure everything was calculated correctly

[wicked minnow]

what did you get in the end?~~ im thinking of doing the calculation in a basic way so i wanna see~~ na im lazy still wanna know

[elder flume]

Attack an undying enemy and count for 1 min

I might not have enough to max pot Catherine

[full terrace]

Time to convert those OPs into Sanity

[dusky hawk]

Hey cuties

Can I have some help

[next wigeon]

Oh IS2

[analog mirage]

Ptsd

[dusky hawk]

Yup same stage as yesterday

[wicked minnow]

i dont think this is possible

[tawdry path]

erm, no blocker

might be over

[wicked minnow]

it's very over

[dusky hawk]

I got to 79 killed last time I tried

[next wigeon]

Yeah

[wispy condor]

unless youve got a ton of good relics somehow i dont think this is feasible

[dusky hawk]

I got a few relics that I’d say r pretty good

But uh

Ima go try it

[tawdry path]

godspeed

[pearl stone]

Is wis a borrow?

[tawdry path]

hold middle lane and try to use jaye and teq timing to hold phantom on top left ig

and see if you can burst down

[wicked minnow]

you dont have 19 lives this time

[tawdry path]

You're gonna leak dogs early tho

[pearl stone]

They have 40 dp

[tawdry path]

oh nvm

[pearl stone]

Saria in the choke works fine

[wispy condor]

lucian has the same dash-through-an-operator gimmick as crownslayer, i would recommend putting tequila on top lane, then waiting for lucian to get close to deploy jaye right next to him. activate tequilas skill to start block, and lucian will dash through one and get blocked by the other. from there, pray wis'adel kills

[pearl stone]

It mostly comes down to dodge rng

[tawdry path]

pretty much

[wicked minnow]

no dodge rng when blocked

[wicked minnow]

this is the strat i use for welfare clears

[pearl stone]

Damn, it's been a while since I've bothered blocking phantom

[wicked minnow]

very consistent if you know what you are doing and have e2 ops

[fading wagon]

if this is not the max difficulty then this should work as long as your time your roach

[wispy condor]

station kroos somewhere to shoot down the balloons before they get too close to your formation

[tawdry path]

thorn aiming right and ling S3 was enough to beat phantom

[dusky hawk]

True

[tawdry path]

roach is gonna die there I feel

[dusky hawk]

Ooo thx

What order

[pearl stone]

From what? She has camo and saria healing

[tawdry path]

Also you really wanna kill phantom before he breaks any roadblock or it's pretty much cooked

[wicked minnow]

how are you killing the boss??

[dusky hawk]

Yup I got it full lvl thingy

[wispy condor]

place tequila 2tiles above saria in this diagram

[fading wagon]

bro she dies last

[tawdry path]

nah I remember some aoe dmg

[wispy condor]

i hope youre running saria s2, that would make this a bit easier

[dusky hawk]

I am

[pearl stone]

Unlucky. Pozy is specifically better at killing phantom. If you weren't borrowing wis, you'd have an easier time with this map

[wispy condor]

swag

[wicked minnow]

roach only really dies if you block lucian up there and dont have any healers in sight

[dusky hawk]

What order do I do this

[fading wagon]

what difficulty though?

[analog mirage]

Finally a saria s2 used

[wispy condor]

firewatch below kroos facing up could work

[dusky hawk]

1 x multi difficulty, the middle one

[fading wagon]

ohh then you should be good but wait maybe i should change my tequila spot

so he can hit boss too

[wicked minnow]

bro it's a e1 tequilla

he wont be doing shit

[dusky hawk]

Can someone pls tell me the order im a bit

[tawdry path]

lmao

[fading wagon]

oh didn't realise that

welp

[wispy condor]

youre lacking vanguards so saria first will be necessary. wis'adel/kroos next i think

[dusky hawk]

Oki

[tawdry path]

alright saria then wisadel facing top, as long as she can hit the upper section of the map you can place her wherever

[wispy condor]

e1 tequila is just there to block lucian once he comes by

[tawdry path]

then you can sandwich with Jaye

[dusky hawk]

It said I lost after I logged back onto Arknights… abt to crash out rn

[fading wagon]

saria wisadel, then kroos yes. after that just put down whatever

[analog mirage]

Gg

[tawdry path]

yeah if you quit mid fight in IS

[fading wagon]

oh welp

[dusky hawk]

It was on pause

[tawdry path]

you just lose

If you're in the nodes window

[limpid ore]

pause doesnt mean shit

[tawdry path]

You wouldn't lose

[wispy condor]

maybe deploy astesia to sarias right to help direct attacks away from tequila thoughts?

oh damn nvm

[dusky hawk]

I got like negative rewards 😭

[fading wagon]

as a is2 grinder let me tell you if you dont care about finishing please do is3 first then move on to is4/5 is2 progression is genuinely shit/slowest

[tawdry path]

^^^°

[dusky hawk]

Wdym finishing

[fading wagon]

max rewards

[tawdry path]

I don't know why people keep recommending is2 as their first is cause it's the most slugfest IS you'd ever do

[fading wagon]

level 170

[dusky hawk]

I just want rewards idc what map it is

[fading wagon]

then do is3

easiest and more fun

[dusky hawk]

Oki

[fading wagon]

and more fast

[tawdry path]

Is3 would be easier and more fun

since they have hp of a wet towel in low difficulty

[dusky hawk]

This one?

[analog mirage]

I would do is5 first

[tawdry path]

Yes the mizuki one

[willow sun]

mb went to go do the run arf challenged me to do

[analog mirage]

There no reset rng there

[willow sun]

what end?

[fading wagon]

for is3 you can borrow wisadel/texalt/kroos alt you can abuse stun in is3 like so much lol

[dusky hawk]

Oki

Ima go do it

[tawdry path]

In is3 it's more likely you'd win your first ending without any prior knowledge

[fading wagon]

this

[acoustic slate]

IS2 is just more shit after experiencing the others

[fading wagon]

i started with is3

[acoustic slate]

Okay

[fading wagon]

now suffering with is2, i hate it so much (every 1 hour only 2 levels)

[tawdry path]

yeah it's insufferable

[acoustic slate]

Okay so you’re proving my point

And yet you tell someone else to do the same

[willow sun]

whats happening

actually i'll just backread

[acoustic slate]

Blah blah is2 so bad, go do others

Which in turn makes is2 seem even worse

The real answer here is for that guy to go play more story and not totally sideline his progression to grind IS

he’s just not ready

[tawdry path]

story does nothing material wise

[acoustic slate]

Yawn emoji

[willow sun]

i mean, recipe unlocks

[dusky hawk]

Well yea.. I’ve been avoiding story cause it’s boring and I wanna upgrade my ppl

[acoustic slate]

Then you shouldn’t be surprised to hit a brick wall

[willow sun]

unless you just want to play the game more after already spending your sanity on progressing, you shouldn't dedicate all (or at least most) of your time to IS

[dusky hawk]

It’s my 3rd day on this acc 😭

[willow sun]

do enough to get the ball rolling then leave it for when its less of a pain in the ass

yeah if its your third day thats way too early

take a breather

[pearl stone]

Go do story, wtf

[dusky hawk]

Okk I’ll go do story then

[analog mirage]

If all u care about are rewards

Do ra cheese

[dusky hawk]

What’s that

[analog mirage]

Reclamation algorithm

[tawdry path]

nah bros just gonna hate ak by doing ra cheese this early

[scarlet mortar]

why is bro doing IS on their third day playing.....

this game is cooked

[acoustic slate]

Knight try not to give bad newbie a bad suggestion challenge (impossible!!😱)

[fading wagon]

and btw if you think story is boring you can just skip it and just get to the fight (you can reread the story in the future anytime you want so you won't be missing anything) (this doesn't apply to events)

[dusky hawk]

Trying to get resources and didn’t wanna waste sanity on resource stages

[analog mirage]

Smurf tech

[pearl stone]

Where else were you planning on spending your sanity?

[dusky hawk]

Base upgrade mats

[scarlet mortar]

i mean sure you can dive headfirst into the slog

[weak gazelle]

refill base drone :ya:

[scarlet mortar]

but people don't do that bc they have months to play this game

and the slog doesn't get any better

[dusky hawk]

What’s slog

[analog mirage]

Endgame

[dusky hawk]

Oh

[tawdry path]

probably referring to completing an IS battle pass

[dusky hawk]

Tbh I just am waiting for the banner

[scarlet mortar]

aka boring ass labor

[tawdry path]

eh it's just what you do to get rewards, you just do it to pass the time

[limpid ore]

just go sleep for 2 days

[dusky hawk]

I should

[limpid ore]

or you know, get more money irl to spend on shop pack

[tawdry path]

(without spending a single dime in ak you would have decent progress regardless)

[limpid ore]

wdym progress, it's for buying skins

[pure orchid]

Yes i am in fact a cutie what seems to be the problem you're having

[fading wagon]

bro is too late

the is run already ended

[limpid ore]

most of the super useless friend UI theme costs real money

[pure orchid]

In my defense cloudflare was not letting me see discord messages

[analog mirage]

The problem is solved

[fading wagon]

ah that has happened to me too in the past

[pure orchid]

I disabled it for now

[tawdry path]

huh didn't know that was a thing

[pure orchid]

goofy ahh dns

[tawdry path]

that's wacky

[dusky hawk]

I’ll call you cutie from now on

First impression of IS-3.. a chest killed my wis and now I’m getting clapped (it’s the first stage)

[pearl stone]

Just restart the run

[dusky hawk]

didn’t read that it reflected damage

[pure orchid]

Gg spike chest

[tawdry path]

strongest wisadel counter

[dusky hawk]

Yea I will

[limpid ore]

return 40% of damage taken as true damage to the attacker, yeah

well, you will only see this in IS3 and IS4

IS5 has walking, floating chest that steal you moeny instead

[analog mirage]

Is3 has a lot of bullshit u have to deal with

[weak gazelle]

that remind me is5 doesnt have spiky chest :icant:

[analog mirage]

Or just accept ur fate ig

[weak gazelle]

lost that little surprise

[analog mirage]

Good learning experience ig

[dusky hawk]

[analog mirage]

There's spines instead ig I'll take those over spiky chest anyday

[tawdry path]

is5 really doesn't want you to use any conventional laneholder with those spines

pretty funky

[limpid ore]

eh, i just use utage s2 to kill it

[weak gazelle]

yeah drop utage and forget it

[limpid ore]

schoolgirl utage or beachgirl utage

[weak gazelle]

with -hp debuff even more better

schoolgirl obviously

[full terrace]

Thats even worse smh, the guy doesnt even have Ulpi, Gladiia, and Saileach I'm not watching all that. And dont ping me thank you very much.

[nocturne cove]

Wow

You're banned from internet

!!

[tawdry path]

arf working overtime in #strategy

[vocal leaf]

silence borrow, you don’t see that often

[nocturne cove]

True

[pure orchid]

Time for my weekly detox then

[willow sun]

he has 3 flagbearers

gladiia e1 is all you need

ulpp is the e2 borrow like nightingale was for yours

gladiia just needs the e1 for 2.5% regen, she sits there like a decoration the entire run

saileach generates dp one time (e1 0 sl1) then retreats

[vocal leaf]

if no gladiia mod, just borrow hoederer

[full terrace]

He aint borrowing anything #help message and he has Nightingale #strategy message and you are telling him to spend resources to raise Gladiia? when he doesnt even have Ulpianus? And you straight up using Logos to kill everything when you know his is underleveled, that was like your criticism in the first place and you failed to address it yourself. At the very least I still divide the dps between Logos, Ela, Ceobe in case his Logos couldnt take care of all of them by himself. Your solution just went from worse to worst.

Also stop pinging me thank you very much

[vocal leaf]

arf sounds angy

[willow sun]

yeah the message from 4 months ago saying he wont borrow, when he stated earlier he's desperate enough to try
you wanted something more consistent and you got it

e1 gladiia is what, 50k lmd? if he's that broke that's a separate issue

[sour rock]

Help i need to do the GO-EX-8 Challenge and i don't know waht to use 👉 👈

[full terrace]

I am upset. I'm trying to help people here, not compare dick size with anyone. He came here and told me my method doesnt work (implied, not said it directly) when I literally sent a full clear video. I mean I'm not close-minded, but if you wanna criticize the help, provide a better help to the person.

[willow sun]

his logos is the same level as mine, has two fewer masteries, however his krooster is out of date, proven by the missing e2 NG, and regardless s3m1 vs s3m3 is only a 15% damage difference, my kills have several seconds of leniency

[full terrace]

What operators do you have there

[willow sun]

his logos is only undereleveled compared to yours

learn to take criticism instead of just getting heated over absolutely nothing, please

[willow sun]

can you show your roster?

[sour rock]

[full terrace]

I AM open to criticism, IF the criticism is addressing issues, and building something I lack. Yours not only did not address the issue, you literally provided a worse solution, you have no right to criticize in the first place.

[elder flume]

Max Laios pogu

[tawdry path]

take this to DMs fellas

theres someone who needs help here

[sour rock]

[full terrace]

And by "consistent" you mean spamming Ulpianus everybody knows how to do that, you just found out about this now?

[sour rock]

I just got in Arknights when that collab got in

[vocal leaf]

well then let me critique your advice, borrowing hoe is better than borrowing ulpi with e1 gladiia it’s sad people still think he’s bad or worthless

[willow sun]

hoe does not have the necessary self-sustain to tank 3 steam knights

also s2m3 ulpianus' dps is akin to hoe s3m3

thats not a joke

[vocal leaf]

he does, i used him

you use s1

[willow sun]

above is hoederer, below is ulpianus

[willow sun]

if youre using s1 are you using the caster equipment for frighten spam?

i didn't want to rely on rng so i avoided doing that

[vocal leaf]

no, i didn’t pay attention the equipment. it was irrelevant

[willow sun]

i also could've brought kroos to do that job instead of ulpianus or degen since she's way cheaper

[prisma swift]

what i do

[full terrace]

Unfortunately the best method I can recommend is a low-end clear and even that you have to raise some ops for it. Here watch this #strategy message

[willow sun]

the issue with your solution was overleveled ops. i solved that. you brought up a valid point that he tends to not borrow units. i countered by saying he changed his mind earlier due to the urgency of the event

whats your point

[narrow pendant]

Win

[full terrace]

You are severely underleveled I'm about to suggest you to come back next year for medals

[sour rock]

Ohhh, i don't have humus and Jaye

:c

[willow sun]

you've beaten GO-EX-8 NM, yes? was it with lappland stalling?

[prisma swift]

im clueless man the artillery kills whatver i put

[sour rock]

Nope

[willow sun]

oh you stated challenge, i thought you already beat the NM

[sour rock]

W Alt killed the boss

[sour rock]

Ye', ye'

[willow sun]

oh you did then

[elder flume]

Your vangies are 1 block
You can last deploy a 1 block away from your main ops to bait

[sour rock]

Also i can change humus to La pluma, right?

It's for the first skill

[vocal leaf]

you bait the first boom with gravel and then just have a 3 block with more than 3k hp for bait, you’ll be ok

[elder flume]

Also bring Noir and Friston
Theyre 3 blocks to immediately bait

[prisma swift]

i kinda need the artillery to kill the tentacles no

[prisma swift]

3 block and 3k hp isnt in my roster

sash and saria both 2k

[elder flume]

Slugs only take 90% DR
Just do 10x more damage while waiting

[prisma swift]

my sash died to slugs..:(

[willow sun]

if you want to beat CM you'll probably just have to rely on arts equipment rng with this team. your exu can handle the elite drones that spawn with a proper cycle and then you have to borrow wis to clear the boss and steam knight
the strat for the most part will be the same as whatever you did in NM, you just have to be more careful at the beginning of the stage since the boss now gains global range

[vocal leaf]

i see hoederer there

[willow sun]

once the boss dies it's essentially the same run

[prisma swift]

hoe is 2 block

[elder flume]

And with slugs hes a 8 block

[prisma swift]

aight

[willow sun]

when hoe is blocking a slug hes 3+ block

yeah

[prisma swift]

hoe died to slugs faster than sash did

[sour rock]

Ok, ok

[prisma swift]

bro he survived like 3 seconds

[sour rock]

ty

[willow sun]

who else do you have?

also the 3 block doesn't have to survive by having 3k+ hp

you can just bring trash

[willow sun]

bring noir corne/cardigan/beagle/spot, plop them on slugs, let them stall, die, place a new one

[prisma swift]

they dont live long enough against the swarm of slugs thats the point

[willow sun]

e1 hoe's definitely an issue, vasallo was probably thinking of a built hoederer

[full terrace]

You solved nothing. His Logos is M1 and unmoduled. If your concern is only about Lv60 vs Lv90 thats nothing. My point is that your "criticism" is just your ego, the solution I provided did not ask him to borrow. You criticized, and then instead of providing a better solution, you gave worse smfh.

[willow sun]

no mod, sure

[vocal leaf]

are you killing the cars? they make slugs inflict necrosis, that is adding extra pressure over your lane holders, not to mention they interrupt your sp skill gaining

[willow sun]

and again ive done calcs on m1 vs m3

[prisma swift]

how am i supposed to kill the car that quick what 😭

[willow sun]

i criticized and instead of defending yourself you attacked me

instead of "oh yeah, i didn't consider that" or "actually here's how i avoid that"

you said "no fuck you, make a better clear"

[willow sun]

do you have humus at all?

[prisma swift]

wtf stop the argument

[prisma swift]

no

[willow sun]

the slugs don't do that much physical damage

[vocal leaf]

ines can’t kill?

[willow sun]

are your 3 star defenders built at all?

i see spot is e1 30 but what about the others

[full terrace]

If it's moduled then your concern is invalid in the first place, because Lv60 vs Lv90 is nothing. My point still stand and your solution is still worse.

[willow sun]

you didnt even watch my solution

but yeah

[full terrace]

And you are expecting that when you came at me and said "hey fuck you, your solution does not work"

[prisma swift]

oh fuck the car do no damage

[pure orchid]

is this ideal city

[prisma swift]

only spot

[prisma swift]

nein

[willow sun]

and you dont read my messages after attacking me

[full terrace]

Sorry I aint playing defensive game when you came at me all aggressive in the first place

[willow sun]

dont blame me

[prisma swift]

the ones i sent are the levelled ones

[vocal leaf]

btw you should silverash s2 for landholding, just will need someone to kill the enemies for him

[prisma swift]

oh

ok

[pure orchid]

guys

[willow sun]

let me double check their atk with spot's defense

does he have trust?

[prisma swift]

no

[pure orchid]

There is like almost no way to say a clear is better than another

Its either you clear or u dont

[prisma swift]

mountain did manage to remove the car i think i got it now

-# silverash is sl2 because i dont have t1 mats

[pure orchid]

I aint boutta backread but the best we can do as helpers is give our respective clear suggestions and hope it works

[willow sun]

at the same time you admit your clear has faults, faults you never addressed with my initial criticism, which only backs your very own words of "aint playing defensive game"
i only called you aggressive after you start cussing me out for the second time over a mere question

[pure orchid]

Comparing without a standard is fruitless

[willow sun]

thats fine, you could always postpone story for a later time

is there a reason you're trying so hard to push forward in stages?

like a mat recipe?

[vocal leaf]

that sounds good, more cars will spawn tho, fastredeploy are ideal against them like texalt or yatoalt, but since you clearly don’t have them, jaye can be a good option, he’s a pretty nice 4star

[prisma swift]

theres a second wave of cars

my main issue is the missile doesnt hit everything in the enemy spawn

i ran out of options to stall them

and mountain doesnt remove enemies quick enough in second wave

[prisma swift]

mod

11-6

[willow sun]

ah

you can consider waiting until thursday for lappland's event

it'll come with another wave of LMD, EXP, books, yada yada

[prisma swift]

hmm yeah

[willow sun]

you can probably get another e2 from it to help out

[prisma swift]

i come back with more e2s

[willow sun]

are you borrowing units right now?

yeah

[prisma swift]

will e2 mountain help

[prisma swift]

no

trying to beat the game through intended ways

[willow sun]

fair point

[vocal leaf]

you don’t want to borrow units? someone like kal, penance, mudrock could solo one side of the map for you

[willow sun]

im guessing youre trying to get logos mod

[prisma swift]

yeah

[willow sun]

actually why aren't you using logos s1? i feel like you mentioned it earlier but i dont' remember what you said about it

[spark sinew]

||i think you shouldn't use logos ||

[willow sun]

probably just feels wrong to them

[prisma swift]

it is logos s1

[willow sun]

i avoided borrowing units outside of S stages when i first started

[prisma swift]

left side has no problem

[spark sinew]

otherwise half the map is just solved

not how devs intended 🫡

[willow sun]

oh in the screenshot you had him set to s3 thats why

nvm

i got confused

[willow sun]

to be fair with who he has now does he even have enough to solve the other half without logos
i mean sash is sl2 and his tanks can't even stall slugs long enough to let cannon kill them

wait you have saria e1 50

does she not work?

[vocal leaf]

but the problem is you’re rushing the stages, i don’t think that’s the intended way to play the game, you should take your time

[prisma swift]

am i rushing

[willow sun]

a bit, yeah

[prisma swift]

[willow sun]

also getting logos mod will trivialize a lot of content

[tawdry path]

be me and finish IS2 bp before playing chapter 9+ (do not)

[prisma swift]

i cmoe back after i clearmall previous chapters then

[willow sun]

if youre trying to challenge yourself you can honestly just not get it for now

[spark sinew]

yeah
honestly i'm not even joking, logos1 hurts you "learning and playing how intended" even more than some random ass support

[willow sun]

yeah thats true, he just deletes half the map and ignores all the mechanics

[full terrace]

I do have faults. The fact that it is ran on 2 different accounts bound to have discrepancy in the first place. Your quote-unquote criticism isnt even anything worth addressing because it's invalid in the first place. You said it yourself his Logos is moduled and you calc-ed M1 vs M3. Then there is nothing to be addressed because Lv60 vs Lv90 is nothing significant. You literally killed your own initial argument. I cussed you? You wanna criticize people yet you dont wanna get criticized? I'm trying to help people and you criticized the help, if you are ctiticizing the help, provide a better one. Whats wrong with asking you to make the clear for the guy? You take offense with that you have issues thats not my fault.

[vocal leaf]

half of your team is not e2, you should focus and leveling those than getting a mod imo

[willow sun]

@prisma swift i'm curious, are you not borrowing because it makes the game too easy or do you just feel like its cheating in general?

[prisma swift]

how u still arguing vro its not that deep

[prisma swift]

both kinda

[willow sun]

if you feel like its the first i'd honestly put off logos mod for later

[prisma swift]

i skipped like most stages with wis until like 9-16

[willow sun]

you know how strong he is now, right?

his mod makes him ~70% stronger

[prisma swift]

and then realised how much i struggle

[willow sun]

so just take that into consideration

[prisma swift]

[pure raven]

whats happening

[willow sun]

what part

[tawdry path]

ako as usual

[prisma swift]

what about ethan mod and sash mod

those dont need main story

[willow sun]

sash definitely wants his mod

ethan you can leave it for after you've built your DPS units

[acoustic slate]

This is true but Ethan mod also mandatory for his use

[willow sun]

probably e2 60 sash and mod him during lappy event

[prisma swift]

am i supposed to have more than 1 dps built

9-19 i struggled with the boss cuz none of my ops do damage to the boss

only logos barely soloing a phase

[acoustic slate]

You got 12 squad slots

[spark sinew]

it's probably way way less of a boost for s1

especially in that specific chapter

[willow sun]

true but the slugs are getting one shot anyways yeah

[vocal leaf]

i doubt he would need ethan stall for early game tho, but at least is cheap compared to 6star mods

[spark sinew]

assuming post ramp up ofc

[prisma swift]

always feel like im early on and dont need to take advantage of all 12 slots

[willow sun]

that probably should server as a hint you need more dps

[prisma swift]

hoe good as dps?

(do i e2 hoes)

[willow sun]

he's alright, mainly a boss killer or trash/elite laneholder on s3

s2 has permastun uses, not for dps

s1 has self-sustain uses, also not for dps

[prisma swift]

what about mountain e2

[willow sun]

i'd skip mountain e2

[prisma swift]

saria?

[willow sun]

also skip

again focus on your dps first

[prisma swift]

other than ines what i e2

[willow sun]

which right now is sash > hoederer

[prisma swift]

theres sash

only

[willow sun]

oh i dont mean dont e2 them

just skip for now**

i get wanting to jump into the strategic parts of arknights but you gotta have a solid foundation to test those strats on first

i felt the same way when i first started

[vocal leaf]

it is really good dps, you would be surprised, i don’t use s3 that much, mainly s1

[spark sinew]

tbh idt you need more dps than current "three" ones you have

[willow sun]

who, logos sash hoe?

[prisma swift]

which 3

hoe sash logos

[willow sun]

lemme just calc it actually

[spark sinew]

but i see severe lack of base workers

[willow sun]

ill compare

[prisma swift]

hell yeah

my base isn’t even built

[willow sun]

again, build your foundation first

[spark sinew]

pluma for some trash
logos sa for rotating burst

some borrow if you need another

[prisma swift]

isnt pluma burst

with s2

[acoustic slate]

Fix that

[spark sinew]

going into modules for sa logos and going into ines and other utility would do more

[spark sinew]

sure, she might work sometimes

[vocal leaf]

im just talking on experience, you know from someone that actually use him, it depends anyway, on what he’s facing and the timings of enemy spawn

[spark sinew]

she's really gated by defense spikes so she won't actually work vs bosses (but even then, i still counted her as one)

[willow sun]

i use him as well

i have him m6 mod3

[vocal leaf]

and you doubt you were not rushing

[willow sun]

ah i missed pluma, good catch

[prisma swift]

my brain hurts so much reading the doc

fuck

[willow sun]

oh wait she's literally e2 80

i'm just blind

[vocal leaf]

i have him m9 mod3 no pots sadly

[prisma swift]

its highly recommended but doesnt directly affect your in game power

[vocal leaf]

it does, your main resources to upgrade operators come from base

[willow sun]

honestly not even that bad, she still does fine at 800 def
this is e2 80 mod0 without the s2 hp gate buff

add the s2 hp gate buff and she can arguably handle 1k def enemies

[willow sun]

he wont leave me alone so mine's pot3

[willow sun]

more resources = build more ops = more in game power, no?

[spark sinew]

did you try to use her on bosses

it's been so long for me idr 🫡

i can see her just dying to some bum boss, because she can't heal fast enough vs st

[prisma swift]

yeah building base rn

[willow sun]

probably shouldn't have included ulp s3 in hindsight

ulp s2/hoe s1 is total damage over 70 seconds

hoe s3 lasts 70 seconds

ulp s2 lasts 25 seconds

[willow sun]

i mean bosses are a different question, she's not a boss killer after all

with mod, max stacks with some trash on standby, and hp gate active she probably could but thats situational

[spark sinew]

i mean

is that not what i said

[willow sun]

focus on that until... at least after lappy even't i'd say

[willow sun]

ya, you just mentioned bosses here #strategy message so
i dont actually have her myself so no i haven't used her on bosses

i agree that shes just for trash though, maybe elites at best

[elder flume]

Ive only used Pluma S2 in a 1 to 10 ratio

[willow sun]

s1 instead i assume?

[spark sinew]

yeah the guy asked about pluma being burst damage dealer, so i assumed the question is about bosses (cause again, I mentioned mobs already)

[willow sun]

ohh i see

that makes more sense

yeah i didn't see the context, mb

[vocal leaf]

i appreciate your calcs and graphs but they’re meaningless to me without context, i care more the practice, i once had a friend into that saying that exia dps was higher than wisadel

[willow sun]

i just saw you mentioning def gates so i wanted to mention how surprisingly well she handles it

[elder flume]

Yeah i dislike S2 durations
Most times its dead moment inbetween

[willow sun]

raw dps is pointless, i agree, thats why my calcs scale with defense so you can visualize scenarios
enemies have 1k def? you'll see how much gaps close or even swap positions

[vocal leaf]

even then stats are not everything, enemies have skills and they don’t come alone, sometimes they even have synergies, that’s why context is so important to me

[willow sun]

idk, a lot of the skills i put in this list of calcs are very basic skills

hoe just hits twice then hits a third time harder

are they idealized? yeah, but do they function well enough for skills that don't do much outside of dealing damage? also yeah

[spark sinew]

i dislike pluma1 cause you get like, a bulky elite and she can't really do anything

[willow sun]

ive never actually read her s1 hold on

[spark sinew]

or you get like 3 guys in quick succession and she leaks

[willow sun]

oh just a powerstrike

[spark sinew]

or you get any of the above + some need for her to tank a hit and she (almost) dies in a couple

[pure orchid]

Yeah i think the only arguments for pluma1 are: afk, constant flow of enemy that cant fit in one s2

s2 is much better given the burst capability

[willow sun]

s1 is lazy man's s2

[pure orchid]

Dont get me wrong s1 is good but its like a win more skill than anything

[celest bluff]

I want more damage

There are no reason, just more damage

[willow sun]

?

do you need help with something?

[celest bluff]

Who should I put in for damage

I just want to build a squad that is absolutely overpowered

[wicked minnow]

suzuran qiubai logos reed alter saria lappland alter combo would be very cool

[willow sun]

wtfart giga combo

[wicked minnow]

also what more damage do you want bro 😭

[willow sun]

yeah you have sexas, yat2, ela, degen, fedex, logos, wis, reedic

saria arts amp

[celest bluff]

Thermobaric bomb

[willow sun]

texas fraud

maybe you can replace horn with mlynar

[celest bluff]

Unfortunately don't have

[willow sun]

qiubai?

[celest bluff]

Do have

[willow sun]

you can do the logos suzu saria qiubai combo shileds mentioned

replace texas

you dont need vanguards

[celest bluff]

Man I want Ines

[wicked minnow]

he can do the full combo once lapp2 drops

[full terrace]

Your next mission is to pull Ines. Also you need a bit of healing if you want a flexible squad. Eyja and Shu are best.

[willow sun]

what does lappy do for the team again?

[wicked minnow]

get buffed 4 way

real

[willow sun]

oh as another arts dps

i thought she was another qiubai buffer

[wicked minnow]

na, i think the combo sounds funny is all

[celest bluff]

[wicked minnow]

i dont think it will ever be practical

[willow sun]

full arts team

just play casterknights bro

[spark sinew]

cut slop like yato exec horn and vangtex

[willow sun]

yato is slop but sexas isn't?

how come

[wicked minnow]

they are both slop 🥱

[spark sinew]

texas2 makes it look like a supposed art burst, so you wouldn't want to run buffless degen i would argue

[full terrace]

Try to pull Ulpian or Yu as well. Also you need Mlynar.

[willow sun]

yeah so wouldn't you replace both?

[celest bluff]

Buffless degen?

[elder flume]

Wait for time stop

[spark sinew]

if someone runs horn, i doubt they have 5 better ops than texas

[willow sun]

oh you just value sexas > yat2 then

[elder flume]

Or scale Ines for the next 8 months

[willow sun]

honestly they're not my style so i've never looked into them, i just know a lot of people consider them roughly equal

[spark sinew]

is the goal buff army or being overpowered for normal content? (which it already is)

[willow sun]

buff army was just brought up by shileds as a joke i believe

[full terrace]

I believe he just want more flexibility in contents like IS

[spark sinew]

logos qb suzu ceobe are really strong arts core
then you can slap texas2 reed2 saria3

[wicked minnow]

yes it was because what "more damage" are you needing

[wicked minnow]

well that's exactly what i suggested

lapp2 instead of ceobe is the main difference

[spark sinew]

she's sub 40k total damage on 0 defense enemies without buffs, but scales fairly well with atk buffers (of which there are plenty)

[willow sun]

actually instead of lapp2/ceobe what if schizo ifrit delta mod core

[spark sinew]

kinda griefs logos, and you already do a lot of res stripping i feel

[willow sun]

oh right reed2 and sexas

[spark sinew]

so both ifrit aura and burn don't feel as impactful

[willow sun]

yeah i forgot about that whoops

[wicked minnow]

reed2 doesnt res strip?

[willow sun]

reedic and sexas both do i think

sexas on s2 has -30%, i believe reedic is flat shred

[celest bluff]

Most content ended with deploying Wisadel so I don't have the chance to use the full squad actually

[south spindle]

arts fragile if you count that to be the same thing

[wicked minnow]

it isnt the same. i think he's talking about res strip specifically

[willow sun]

wait no im crazy

i'm thinking of someone else

[spark sinew]

afaik % based strip come in last?

[willow sun]

im thinking of eyja fuck

[wicked minnow]

% is last iirc

[spark sinew]

so for ceobe and logos who already ignore res, and then fire into someone under texas2 already

it's also just a bit clunky to setup without like

double flagpipe

[celest bluff]

2 flag and bagpipe?

[spark sinew]

around that

idt "double flagpipe" is a real expression

[willow sun]

2 flags and a pipe

get zooted

[fading wagon]

late for this but add warfarin 90% atk stat boost

[willow sun]

who would you be buffing though? she can only choose 1

main dps is logos/qiubai, logos already has +300% so +90% is diluted heavily

also use stainless

or actually, no, mon3tr s2, i keep forgetting how good of a buffer she can be

[fading wagon]

hmm i was going to say on degen but her skill recharge might cause dps issue

[spark sinew]

i guess you drop texas and retreat her
feels meh regardless honestly
you could run a bard or ifrit instead

shu should give more than aak because we have at least 4 strong recipients

[spark sinew]

if it's just general content rolling machine, i agree with going for AH

[celest bluff]

Yeaaaa

[spark sinew]

also asca 2 is much better, unless you're like this guy

[willow sun]

wtfart top secret identity ak player

[spark sinew]

the vilest creature of them all

lowstep player!

that didn't even go 300 rolls deep so he doesn't have tuya

[civic bear]

bro knows

[full terrace]

If it's just for something like IS tho, you want a more balanced squad that would allow you respond to various situations thrown at you.

[spark sinew]

he's aware of the monster he became

[full terrace]

This is what I run for general contents (primarily ISes). It's pretty balanced I could clear d15 stages with ease. It also works for events and whatnots except cc.

And I'm about to kick Ulpi out for Yu soon

[tidal sedge]

Can <1 month old account clear GO-EX-8 CM ?

[wicked minnow]

yeah just depends who you got ig. there's 2op clears of the CM

[wicked minnow]

there's also low rarity guides out there that use support that abuse the arts equipment against steamknight

[tidal sedge]

Hmm wait, can i get the medal on rerun ?

[spark sinew]

holy that's some stacked one month acc

[tidal sedge]

Ah okay, nvm then. I will wait for rerun

[spark sinew]

you do want to clear ex8 cm for furni, since on rerun you get unique currency

[wicked minnow]

yes but the thing is that there is a piece of furniture that is tied to go-ex-8 CM. and it gives intel certs on rerun

intel certs are very cool and you'd be missing out on some of them

[tidal sedge]

I think i'm fine with that, i just want the medal

[full terrace]

Do you have a flag Vanguard

[tidal sedge]

No

[full terrace]

FRDs?

Gravel, Jaye

[tidal sedge]

Only Gravel

[full terrace]

Lemme think

[tidal sedge]

Jaye still level 0

[full terrace]

It's pretty tight but you can

[wicked minnow]

i dont have one account that has all these units leveled so i cant try

[full terrace]

The idea is to borrow Penance (or Mudrock) and pick up a wand with them, then have them stall the Steam Knight

Logos burst Alistair, then retreat

Then reposition him for Steam Knight

[wicked minnow]

logos no mod tho so im not sure how well he'd do

[full terrace]

Not necessarily solo carry, he has SilverAsh and friends to help him

The issue is DP

He needs a flag, and some FRDs to bait Alistair's attacks

[wicked minnow]

tequilla can probably be used to tank alistair's attacks

with ptilo always healing him it should be fine i think

[full terrace]

Tequila doesnt have Taunt talent like Mlynar, he needs the FRDs to constantly bait attacks after deploying a unit.

Well anyway, the person himself doesnt seem to care so

[leaden sierra]

Good morning! IS5 expansion when?

[spark sinew]

should we tell them about all medals they can't obtain anymore so they drop ak

[full terrace]

yes, let's do that

[tidal sedge]

I care but, not now. I will beat him after my account gets stronger

[full terrace]

You can beat the stage now but you need to raise a few 4 Stars for it. But then again event ends in like 5 hours so

[tidal sedge]

Do we know if the next event will be harder ?

[full terrace]

It's not even here, we dont know unless you specifically asking for CN player opinion in #help

[tidal sedge]

Alright, thanks

[full terrace]

You'll get a parrot when asking EN players about something not yet released in EN

[narrow pendant]

Its not exactly a parrot when several guys have and play cn

[full terrace]

Thats what I said

[spark sinew]

you'll love the event mechanic

[tidal sedge]

Also is there a bug with Logos S1 and Tunnel ? It seems he instakilled a unit even after the unit moved to the other end

[full terrace]

Yeah devs didnt update enemies' status when they walk through stairs

So the S1 debuff sticks

You can see in here #strategy message

His S1 sticks even when enemies walk to the bottom left

[tidal sedge]

Yeah that's the exact same stage i saw it lol

[south spindle]

Average logos dimensional arts

[azure roost]

[azure roost]

its just annoying

i dont like event mechanics

forced you to use it to dealt a good damage on enemy

or do the other strat

arturia

so ye always lit the fireworks

@tidal sedge

[rapid junco]

Paprika user !!

[wicked minnow]

what a coincidence, i did the stage today aswell

one of the most scuffed stages i have ever completed to date

the fuckers that explode and extinguish the furnaces are kinda annoying as hell actually

i had an actual setup but most of it died towards the end

[delicate flare]

woah welfare gamer

[wicked minnow]

yep i play welfareknights

it's just brute forcing but with weaker units for the most part

[fresh jewel]

ok so this is my starting point in ex - 8

any issues so far?

[full terrace]

Bro I literally replied to you, did you even read #help message

Lemme repost

You should be able to clear it with those ops regardless of Mastery levels. Nobody can help you simulate accurately when you didnt even M3-ed your units. Figure out how you should solve each problem on your own. Here is a low-end clear #strategy message and here is the strat #strategy message
Here are some simulations I made using people's squads: #strategy message and #strategy message and #strategy message and #strategy message and #strategy message
Watch them for reference on how to position your operators.

That should help your positioning

[fresh jewel]

i watched multiple simulations but a lot aren't working

[fresh jewel]

idk if it's a discord issue but any videos on discord do not work for me

[full terrace]

If you learned the positioning, just identify your issue, if dps is lacking stack some more ops

If they are dying, assign more Medics

Simple as that

[fresh jewel]

the thing is that i'm unable to open the videos you pinged

they do not start

[full terrace]

Oh RIP sorry to hear that

Discord is weird sometimes

[fresh jewel]

yeah so i'm forced to search yt simulations which do not work unfortunately

[fresh jewel]

ok uh so i kept going and my wis died before even having her skill ready

first time happening, no idea what i did wrong

[full terrace]

I cant really help coz my meta ops are mostly maxed and M3-ed. I cant run you an accurate simulation that way, but the low-end one should work if you borrow an M3-ed Wisadel.

[spark sinew]

download them

but yeah it's funny

it's also inconsistent

sometimes my phone can play his vids

[full terrace]

Issue is on my end I think, I have heard a lot of people cant play them

[spark sinew]

sometimes it can't
sometimes pc discord is the one refusing

i always get the sound though

[somber falcon]

i'd assume alistair yeeted bags on mlynar, collateral dmg on wis bcs she's right next to him

[fresh jewel]

tried it but this mf laptop says i need to pay 1 euro to download some app to open it

[spark sinew]

vlc is free

[full terrace]

@fresh jewel can you view them on your phone?

I heard Rain could play them on phone

[fresh jewel]

no unfortunately

[full terrace]

Well RIP

[fresh jewel]

i think it's my discord that's bugged

[somber falcon]

your vids hates phones, doesn't work on mine

[full terrace]

Okay RIP, it's definitely an issue on my end

[fresh jewel]

it doesn't give me any other option other then buying a certain software/app. quite strange ngl

[full terrace]

Anyway there is only like 40 mins left, there isnt enough time to handhold you through everything

[rapid junco]

My phone can play it

[full terrace]

And I cant really run you an accurate simulation with M3-ed units too

I can only give you inputs on positioning and thats what I'm trying to do

[fresh jewel]

where should i put my mlynar and ines in your opinion?

[full terrace]

That Mlynar positioning is already optimal. You see, Alistair always target the "last deployed operator"

But since Mlynar has +1 Taunt, he will always be your "last deployed" operator

So you deploy him, and then quickly assign a Medic to him

Or two if he is dying

[fresh jewel]

i use ng (my only healer) on him

[full terrace]

Every X secs (30 secs according to Rain) the boss will pick up some equipment and launch the cross attack

• shaped

And spawn 4x equipment on his target's adjacent tiles

[fresh jewel]

is there any way to prevent it?

[full terrace]

You tank it

Mlynar will take it like a champ and live

You just need to have him healed properly

[fresh jewel]

but i have to put wis a bit close to mlynar to eliminate the drones and the boss

i noticed however that my wis dies sometimes because of that

[full terrace]

It's because it's a + shape

If you put Wis directly below Mlynar, both of them will be hit

So you can just move her one tile back

[fresh jewel]

i didn't put it below mlynar, i put her diagonally

but she still dies

[full terrace]

She shouldnt

[fresh jewel]

oh might be caused by the archer and the robot on the bottom lane

[full terrace]

That is possible yeah

[somber falcon]

isn't it 3x3
nvm, i remembered wrong

[full terrace]

Also try to keep one Revenant Shadow next to her

To keep her Camouflage

[fresh jewel]

somehow my mlynar died after i blinked

the boss killed him uh

is ng not good enough for healing

[full terrace]

It's a + shape yeah

[full terrace]

If Nightingale is not enough, assign 1 more Medic to him

Also pull Wisadel back

Behind Mlynar and she will shoot everything down

I understand your mindset wanting to kill Alistair as fast as possible

But you dont need to do that

He isnt that big of a threat

Its the drones and whatnots you should be worried about

So position your Mlynar like before, and then Wisadel diagonally behind him

And then cycle their skills

[azure roost]

guys

its dis true

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134011412662980630/1364183742364516392/Screenshot_20250422-181849.jpg?ex=6808be9d&is=68076d1d&hm=53d016a992cc81a1eda16c462f086728fefb61de13a15d161dfadda8676d407f&

[full terrace]

Use Mlynar skill - then Wisadel shot - then Mlynar skill again

[spark sinew]

yeah they pretty much are

but also full team of worst 6* still roflstomps any stage

[spark sinew]

so like

what, you want lumen instead?

[azure roost]

wtf no lessing

dies

crying rn

[fiery marsh]

Could argue that silence alter is actually used in her niche, the rest nearly never sees the light of the sun

[elder flume]

also wtf theres Ho

[azure roost]

so vigil

792 combined clear on three niche he is in

hellagur have over 1k

if we including niches

||https://b23.tv/dnZSKCs||

[leaden sierra]

laptop sp talent doesn't work on Texas, oh wait she's from columbia. Still feels weird.

[elder flume]

i have enough sanity but not enough time to max pot Catherine

[wicked minnow]

there's a reason he says least used and not worst

normal mode looks like it could be easy i would imagine CM might take a bit

[celest bluff]

I am late to CM

Well damn next year I guess

[tidal sedge]

I almost forgot to farm today thankfully I remembered and got everything

[full terrace]

I got 1600 excess tokens

[glass monolith]

I get max pot first, then other stuff

[full terrace]

Spent them all on LMD

[full terrace]

@pure orchid yah 4 at least

3 (Surtr-Shu-Civi) cant. They are all M3-ed there

[pure orchid]

oof

thanks for sating my curiosity

i wonder who that 4th is

[full terrace]

Ptilopsis maybe can

[pure orchid]

Aye that was my idea

[full terrace]

Lemme record it

She cant

Shu-Civi-Mon they 100% can I'm sure

Owait hold on, I think 4 can, lemme try again

Yep no cant RIP

Shu-Civi doesnt work

Lemme try Skalter

Skalter 4 also cant

Sadge

But 5 she can @pure orchid

Mon3tr should cut it down to 4

[pure orchid]

warf 🤮

[elder flume]

Mumu bug it for solo heal

or ig IS3 cloning still exist

[full terrace]

What is a Mumu bug lol

Can you clone a Medic?

[elder flume]

cloning an op infinite times on the same tile

[full terrace]

How does that work

[elder flume]

summon skill > stop skill > clone op > repeat

[civic bear]

if you want 3 healer setup

skalter gav silence works

skalter has to pair with gav

cuz its the most efficient

[full terrace]

My Gavial is in E1 jail, need her for making low-end clear for people

And I didnt raise Silence

Can you record it

Ancool

[smoky halo]

just do marcille + sp bat 🗣️

[spark sinew]

huh, gavial is the best third option?

[civic bear]

what the surprise

shes been the best for a long while

well not anymore

[smoky halo]

we have marcille now smh

[full terrace]

She is awesome for low-end tho

[civic bear]

she scales good with skalter. also heals periodically

yeah

[full terrace]

I usually prefer her over Susurro coz she is also tanky

In the Ya stalling, Gavial can keep the blocker alive

[civic bear]

wait nvm it doesnt work 😂 i forgot this need sail s2

[full terrace]

🤣

[full terrace]

Bug fixed

When you stop skill, you cant clone anymore

[elder flume]

sad

[full terrace]

Operator returns to full DP cost

Sadge

[spark sinew]

sorry for not keeping up with surtr hospital 🫡

well, i guess for not taking an interest in it

[full terrace]

Ah Rain you got me hopeful for nothin 🤣

[spark sinew]

i assume she was the best from the start, or from the skalter at least

[elder flume]

its hard to do too since it only lasts for like 3 frames

[full terrace]

Lemme try again

[elder flume]

can try IS3 instead

[full terrace]

The moment I click stop