strategy

[full terrace]

Like literally

No tricks

[rapid junco]

Basically don't play waiting game, kill boss fast and do damage

[south spindle]

^^^ Ulpianus is CHONK

[distant frigate]

Mhm

[south spindle]

Logos should be able to take care of first two drones when they float by one S3 will kill them

[rapid junco]

Just open with Wis after bottom steam knight doing barrage

[south spindle]

Just get wisadel to hit the 15% stun like 10 times in a row boss can't use skill

[full terrace]

Bro said Alistair is not an issue for him, then stage is already cleared

Coz Ulpi will take care of the Steam Knight

[distant frigate]

[south spindle]

Yeah but he can 2 op it trust

whats 2 more hours

[distant frigate]

😭

[rapid junco]

I want to make vids but it's 2 am soon! I sleep

[south spindle]

@distant frigate is Ulpianus dying when Steam Knight phase 2 or are medics dying

[distant frigate]

My healer died

[south spindle]

Okay so if you read Steam knight (big and small) all do an initial attack when phase 2 begins and they target the most HP unit (Ulpianus) and units around them
you need 2 medics and you need to make sure they're next right NEXT to ulpianus (8 tiles)

[rapid junco]

Ng won't help much with Alistair banner throw 🤫

[distant frigate]

And my gladiia... She's kinda not that well built (e1 lvl 60)

[full terrace]

Took me only 40 mins to clear the entire EX stages. Bro already 2 hours in still havent solved EX-8
Lineup is more or less my alt's with Wis-Logos-Ulpi too

[distant frigate]

My skill issue is strong

[south spindle]

spent half hour failing 8-cm until i gave up and read the enemy mechanics

💔

born to en forced to read

[distant frigate]

Still struggling even after reading the enemy mechanics 😭

[rapid junco]

I not even read what in there and spamming ulpi s3 like champion

[willow sun]

some guy on youtube thinks i bought my account wtfart 💔

[south spindle]

what LMAO

who

[rapid junco]

dont make this channel into blogging-place again smh

[full terrace]

Lemme see your 6 Stars

[willow sun]

like screenshots? i have my krooster up to date

[full terrace]

Are you missing JuSan there, ia-chan 😆

[willow sun]

idk they just thought it was fake cause i didn't have all CCB2 medals
CCB2, an event I would've had to complete with a 2 week old account

[wicked minnow]

it lowkey does look like that

[willow sun]

and the only reason i have so many built ops is because i have lv155 on all IS

🥹

[south spindle]

@distant frigate T for some random tank M for medics don't have your medics or gladia near UP/the tank

[willow sun]

and RA

[rapid junco]

Nope, 3 days without his presence is a bless
But ard-hauc blasting in help is

[full terrace]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[distant frigate]

This image is forever etched in my mind

[full terrace]

Congrats

Now go away

[distant frigate]

I lost

[rapid junco]

[full terrace]

After all those talks 😅

[wintry gulch]

which unit are you borrowing btw?

[wintry gulch]

eyjaberry

[distant frigate]

Is she better in this situation?

[wintry gulch]

keep everything else the same (i'm assuming alastair isn't an issue here), replace ng with eyjaberry

[distant frigate]

Indeed it is, the steamknights gatekeeping me from beating the stage

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u want brainded borrow modded gladiia

[distant frigate]

Skill 1 eyja?

[full terrace]

Borrow Gladiia

[wintry gulch]

nah, e1 gladiia + eyja is enough (worst case scenario get another medic)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Tho ur squad already brainded enough

[full terrace]

You keep saying Alistair isnt an issue

[distant frigate]

Ye

[somber falcon]

btw
go unfriend that mf for putting ng with s1

[full terrace]

Ulpi+Gladiia solves your Steam Knight issue for you

[rapid junco]

[scarlet fulcrum]

They probably choose s1

[rapid junco]

You can choose skill now Mr casul

[full terrace]

Dont tell me you are that one who put her on S1

[somber falcon]

oh right skill select is a thing now

👴

[rapid junco]

I was puting poncirus cuz she cute

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also e1 ur gravel for base

[rapid junco]

Sasuga kirn

[scarlet fulcrum]

E0 grabel just triggering me dont mind it

[elder flume]

Its been so long since i relied on Gravel

I barely change her skill nowadays

[rapid junco]

[scarlet fulcrum]

I relied her everyday on base

[distant frigate]

Apparently, Ejyaberry was all I needed to actually beat the stage

[somber falcon]

not sure how eyja factors in but congrats ig

[rapid junco]

Man preg emoji

[scarlet fulcrum]

Actually u dont need her but congrats?

[full terrace]

😂

[spark sinew]

hp buff to stop one shots?

also someone take away this guy's emote privileges
mpreg fans smh

[astral cosmos]

@wicked minnow i forgot, do you have numbers for valarqvin mod gains?
bc else i wanna calc those there's at least a few goobers who'll ask about it once it releases, surely
-# bobbing too amirite

[wicked minnow]

it was a bit back that i calced it for myself but i just went through the calcs again. it makes it so that bosses take 3 less hits from s2 to procc necrossis from 12 down to 9 and for elites it's 1 less hit from 6 down to 5. for s1 it takes 2 hits instead of 3 for elties and 4 instead of 5 for bosses

the main gains is the slow trait change and that s1 can procc necrosis from stored charges

[astral cosmos]

can u show calcs

[astral cosmos]

btw you mentioned elites twice for s1 but i'm assuming 4<5 is for bosses

[wicked minnow]

ye mb

s2 calcs

s1 calcs

you round up because you cant have portions of a hit deal necrosis

i just had to check rq aswell that it is in fact currently 12 hits and she barely doesnt proc necrosis on the 11th hit against bosses

[astral cosmos]

yeah i saw that too back when i tried big bob vec sp stage solo with valar 🥹

nice, thx a lot
i'll do the calcs for bobbing then if i can't find them

ah what's v and vm here?

[wicked minnow]

v is attack stat of a max level max trust val. vm is just with mod

(it doesnt make a difference)

[astral cosmos]

oh aight

[wicked minnow]

the main things with the mod are the trait change and the slow

the mod base stats and the increase of attack dont matter

[astral cosmos]

i mean the 3>2 does seem nice for s1 still since it holds 2 charges

[wicked minnow]

i stand corrected it might matter for s1 apparently lmao

ye is very cool

and she can slow off-skill btw so she's a decel binder :ya:

[astral cosmos]

it may also matter in IS especially when you get sp relics like vanilla soda, i guess

[wicked minnow]

is5 ritualist hand is cooked with her

[astral cosmos]

-# inb4 calculating how effective the slow is at keeping unblocked enemies within range in function of their mvspd

[wicked minnow]

oh

oh no

stop

[astral cosmos]

-# you see the vision don't you

[wicked minnow]

-# i do but like i wanna stay sane

i just lost go-ex-8 cm because the boss leaked when it had 1 pixel of hp

also does anyone actually know if the boss has targeting priority for his equipment

i had a series of runs where everytime i place lumen last, he'd use the yellow equipment to oneshot him

[astral cosmos]

he uses the closest eq to himself

[celest kayak]

How do I put down steam knight after Alistair?

[astral cosmos]

tank with a brick and arts dps

his bombardment is arts btw so ng is a plus

[celest kayak]

Will my Jalter + Logos(no mod) do?

[celest kayak]

She died immediately during the barrage

[astral cosmos]

whether logos has mod or not won't matter, that's just time
jess should be able to tank onskill, but you'll need a good healer or two

[celest kayak]

I have silence and ng

[astral cosmos]

nobody should be dying under bombardment with ng
silence errr... hmm

when you're dealing with steam knight, are logos/jess/healers the only ops on the map?

[celest kayak]

Wis was somewhere far, myrtle and ela and exu to protect myrtle from mobs

[astral cosmos]

wait huh why are you trying to protect myrtle

[wicked minnow]

lmao

[astral cosmos]

in either case, if you're still dealing with other enemies in other places on the map, you can opt to stall steam knight longer instead of bursting him right away
his bombardment is random shots within the designated area, which means the more ops you'l have in that area, the less overall healing pressure you'll have. which may explain why your ops are imploding to bombardments despite ng
you can kill everyone else first then redeploy everyone close to eachother near steam knight so that your medics can focus better and the damage can be distributed

[glass monolith]

(Breaks down wall ignoring open door) Actually steam knights bombardment is not random - he spawns 3x3 area on highest max HP target (don't forget device is 7500 hp) on map - then does fixed number of Arts hits on highest current HP % in range. If operator in tie (like both 100% hp) then he goes last deployed - usual targeting stuff. If your device lag it possible for him to attack same target twice due delay in current % HP calculation but usually it doesn't happen

[astral cosmos]

oh yeah it's current hp% mb

forgor

[glass monolith]

Steam knight is Rat King - Exists to fuck you over ignorance of HP values

[elder flume]

its why Philae is great

[astral cosmos]

I mean that's kinda not true rat king is max hp whereas steam knight is current hp. you're not gonna check for your ops' current hp values while steam knight is bombarding
but yeah to check for initial hp is important for both

actually no, retract retract and nuance
it's important in the case of go-ex-8 specifically because you have an allied unit within range whose hp is significantly higher than any of your ops' (unless u use ulpi or sth ) which is why it may be interesting to check how much dmg steam knight will deal to it before hammering down your other ops

[glass monolith]

I mean in form of if you didn't pay attention to your max HPs then you have no control over 3x3 areas and likely explode

[astral cosmos]

say, how broken is philae

i'm gonna 80 m6 her anyway but im looking forward to using her somehow 🥹

[glass monolith]

Philae is one of red cert ops?

[astral cosmos]

ya, alongside contrail

[glass monolith]

WE ARE SO BACK

[astral cosmos]

[glass monolith]

And then PvZ2 Pirate ship world most likely afterwards unless Yostar scheduling

[astral cosmos]

ZT rerun first hopefully

[glass monolith]

At least i believe Thorn alter was near Lapp alter

[astral cosmos]

next new op after lappy ya

(surely)

[glass monolith]

I hope 250k Logos feature will be there

[elder flume]

im not into necrosis so i wouldnt know her extent but its block 3 with max hp skill which is rare so thats a W

[astral cosmos]

shalem has that!!

okay ty

[scarlet fulcrum]

I welcome any unit like czerny

[astral cosmos]

@tidal sedge is your jessica modded?

[tidal sedge]

Yes

[astral cosmos]

mod3?

[tidal sedge]

Yup

[astral cosmos]

aight
spoiler alert, m3 gains from either skill won't do much bc it's only +30% atk which is kinda shit (s2 doesn't even increase dodge chance ffs) but i'll calc anyway

[tidal sedge]

[wicked minnow]

shalem and czerny have quite a lot in common but somehow i never fealt like they were interchangable

[astral cosmos]

probably because they're not

i haven't used czerny like at all but from his kit i'm feeling he's still prone to tank stuff
shalem isn't

[wicked minnow]

neither are prone to tank stuff from my usage

[astral cosmos]

welp 😭

[wicked minnow]

they are both just decent arts damage laneholders for my niche atleast

[astral cosmos]

who need to be babysat else they explode but yes

[wicked minnow]

yeah...

atleast czerny honestly has very respectable single target damage

[astral cosmos]

shalem s1 is nice though whenever you want to hit a chest just outside of his range, or if you want to tank the cannon in emer skirmish or rogue mercenary

-# s2 has surprisingly decent dps from my testings but the fact it's def recov makes it awful to use in practice, why HG

[wicked minnow]

yeah same thing from my testing aswell

also s1 is easier to use if you draft him early in IS. s2 just kills him lmao

[astral cosmos]

yes

although is this blemi draft angle for talent? need to test this on def/supp

[wicked minnow]

i can see the vision but i wanna know which IS allows for a blemi starter

[astral cosmos]

shrimply go def supp in is5

trust

u have click so spine clearing is fine

[wicked minnow]

i actually dont have click

[astral cosmos]

no but i mean-
gah you get the point
u can't even use blemi either

[scarlet fulcrum]

Blemi often paired yea, atleast on defenderknights run

[wicked minnow]

i forget that other niches still use their niche in IS

defenderknights sounds wild but with the amount of survivability relics they get i can see it

[astral cosmos]

you simply use horn dps

:clueless:

[wicked minnow]

i feel like your only dps is the arts damage relic

[scarlet fulcrum]

even highmore run not drafting her lul

[wicked minnow]

😭

[astral cosmos]

-# hey uh are you still here i need math help 🥹

[wicked minnow]

hiiii

is it something schizo

[astral cosmos]

n-no i swear!

i'm just trying to calc jessica s1m3 dps but can't figure out how to include the 3 attacks + 4th which is 230% atk without making it total dmg calc

[wicked minnow]

you can consider 1 cycle of attacks then average it out

so if jessica deals j damage what you do is

[astral cosmos]

wait so total dmg in 1 cycle divided by uh...?

[wicked minnow]

(j + j + j + 2.3 * j) / ( 4 * 1 )

this assumes that the crit takes as much time as a normal attack

1 is the attack interval

she does 3 normal attacks then 1 crit over a span of 4 seconds

[astral cosmos]

oh

i'll try that ty

(i'll see where to include the 6% atk modifier)

[wicked minnow]

if you arent doing any defense calculations, you can just multiply the fraction by it

[astral cosmos]

i am, that'll be in function of defense on the x axis

[wicked minnow]

oh then the way that theacc does it is that he has each different damage value a character can to to a certain variable
like d_1 = j and d_2 = j * 2.3

you can then put the talent in those numbers so d_1 = j * 1.06 and d_2 = j * 2.3 * 1.06

[astral cosmos]

that makes a lot more sense than what I tried earlier

[wicked minnow]

nice nice

[astral cosmos]

oh ic

[wicked minnow]

ye after that you just max(d_1 - def, 5% of d_1) which would replace b in 3b and you then got max(d_2 - def, 5% of d_2) which would replace sb here

[astral cosmos]

oh uh tbh i'm not gonna do the 5% minimum dmg if that's what you were asking

no point in doing that for jess

[wicked minnow]

oh i c

[astral cosmos]

i'm just gonna base it off target def overall

[wicked minnow]

ye that works for a rough estimate usually mhm

[astral cosmos]

somehow i feel there's something wrong here but idk

ohhhh hold up it's more complicated than that

[tidal sedge]

Holy moly that’s quite a bit of math

[astral cosmos]

since I want to compare s1m3 vs s1sl7, it varies from 4i to 5i and also varies from 3(b*a-d) to 4(b*a-d)

[wicked minnow]

jessica has 570 base attack no?

[tidal sedge]

Mod?

[wicked minnow]

oh yeah then you'd increase the denominator by 1 aswell

so 5i instead i mean

[astral cosmos]

ya but i wouldn't have the s1m3 line anymore

[astral cosmos]

u forgot +23 from pot

[wicked minnow]

oh right

[astral cosmos]

-# and you weren't here for the coldshot s2 math

[wicked minnow]

you could add another variable that can account for that maybe

[astral cosmos]

yeah im trying to figure out how to do that hang on

ok yeah i think that's it?

[wicked minnow]

you dont need 2 new variables, 1 is enough

[astral cosmos]

but it works?

[wicked minnow]

it do work

[astral cosmos]

ok then perfect

(jk how only 1)

[wicked minnow]

you replace w with (h-1)

in the equation

then remove w

[astral cosmos]

oh right, intelligent compaction

didn't think about that

that is still surprisingly high dps for 0.8s atk interval and ~620 atk

eh well 230% does wonders ig

[wicked minnow]

minimalist has more dps 🥱

[astral cosmos]

[wicked minnow]

but actually for being one of the worst marksman it's not bad

[astral cosmos]

there's no way a 5* has more dps than a 4*....

[wicked minnow]

yeah. I know we were just so used to click out damaging every 5*

[astral cosmos]

wow does she really have more total dmg than 5* mech accords
well rockrock no for sure but the others?

[wicked minnow]

I cant really tell if my calcs for minimalist are roght since he's an auto recovery powerstrike

So he has sp lockout quite often unlike offensive rec

I just didnt account for that in my calcs

i might need to revisit my calcs for them but i do believe she has the worst dps of mechacords

[astral cosmos]

i mean

thank god?

it would be mildly concerning if she had more dps than her 5* counterparts

[wicked minnow]

minimalist is really trying tho (to be the worst)

[astral cosmos]

he has more dps than kjera at least no?

[wicked minnow]

no

[astral cosmos]

tbh i forgot if kjera has significant atk modifiers besides her freeze utility

[wicked minnow]

kjera has a bit better cycle dps than minimalist dps

she kinda does

[astral cosmos]

wow that's

that's ass

[wicked minnow]

she has +1 drone, +55% attack from s2 and +27% attack from talent

[astral cosmos]

oh i forgot the +1 drone

[wicked minnow]

her skill just has bad cycle. her on skill dps is nice

[astral cosmos]

aeugh

it is sad bc i was kinda surprised by minimalist's numbers back when i tried him as temp in is4

[lavish gazelle]

go-9 plan. idk how the low end tutorial does it but he tanks top side so well(i watched eckogen) and everyone is atleast e1, sl4

[astral cosmos]

@tidal sedge the verdict for s1 is that m3 is completely ass 👍
+100 dps is not good

[elder flume]

you might want to utilize the gear next to 5

does E1 Pluma solo top hm

[wicked minnow]

minimalist vs kjera vs click

[lavish gazelle]

might add Sash and either cheeto/nymph

[wicked minnow]

i feel like i went wrong somewhere. why is minimalist the most average dps

this assumes he does 4 hits before doing a crit

[tidal sedge]

Fine

[elder flume]

E1 Pluma should solo
just put her first to the tile next to 5

[glass monolith]

Minimalist is just 3* Kroos doing Arts damage

[elder flume]

https://youtu.be/4YANrcjXJ2M?si=bAVnX_Uxtxs-V_h4

tldr arts gear Pluma makes enemies cant attack
Gravel to bait the gear drop
Yato Gravel prioritize taking the shield buff to kill boss faster
Lappland prob doesnt need to exist

[astral cosmos]

lappland needs to exist only if wisadel solo dps can't kill him in time

i mean it's nice free dps esp since boss is weak to arts so

[elder flume]

theirs is Ezero i think

[astral cosmos]

sadge²

just use any dps

just to secure the run

[elder flume]

Wis is plenty
can add more damage if you want
just make sure theyre not deployed last so they dont get nuked

[astral cosmos]

wisadel solos the stage btw 🤫

[lavish gazelle]

where do i place wisadel

[astral cosmos]

i do think the wisadel solo requires proper timing so

just do what rain did

[modern copper]

and uh

how did i screw this up?

no wisadel please

[glass monolith]

Well feeding Nymph to final wave drone was blunder move

[elder flume]

thoughts on putting Zuo + Nymph 1 to the left
Saria under original Nymph or just Gravel
bait tiny SK missiles with someone higher hp
retreating Ceobe earlier to prep for second wave

[lavish gazelle]

i dont have gravel and i dont understand the placements

[elder flume]

Salter S3 exists too

[wicked minnow]

throwing for content

[elder flume]

if no Gravel then Yato Cantabile Jaye Nothing Red Castle Lancet Friston works

[glass monolith]

Skadi alter / Specter alter / Swire alter / Silence Alter ??? (Fuck we have 300 people why we alter people starting on S?)

[wicked minnow]

Silence alter

[elder flume]

or maybe SA S2 is enough

[lavish gazelle]

im new so none of that

[modern copper]

shit i thought i baited with saria

and i dont have sa s3

[elder flume]

isnt Lancet Castle Yato given quite early

[lavish gazelle]

are they all supports?

[glass monolith]

Sadly Drone range is 2.5 tiles, Saria placement is like 3.15 tiles away from red box

[elder flume]

anyhow
can change it to any defender you have raised
order becomes defender > medic > Wis
save up dp to get those 3 down at the same time

[elder flume]

medic guard vanguard

[lavish gazelle]

i can use these to sub gravel?

cause what i see is gravel shield baits the boss' attack

[glass monolith]

Shield makes her likely to not explode on first hit, allowing to explode when second happends

[elder flume]

Yato is ideal since shes faster to redeploy
but essentially the only attack you need to bait is the one where he marks your operator and drops gear on them since that deals a lot

[astral cosmos]

@tidal sedge the verdict on jessica s2m3 is that it's... kinda okay?
6k total dmg increase for a 4* marksman is actually not that bad... so if you really wanna cope one skill it may as well be s2
I would leave at sl7 if I were you, but if you really want this extra total dmg sure
-# simping is a factually correct answer and I support that
it's just too bad it doesn't increase her dodge chance + the cycle is ass

so up to you

[elder flume]

so any op you can throw works
ideally low dp cost

[tidal sedge]

2nd fav unit, it’s worth it

Thanks a lot

[astral cosmos]

np

[tidal sedge]

[astral cosmos]

-# i love jessica as well

[full terrace]

Thats not how you use Humus. You want to equip him with the wand so that he applies 10 secs Frighten whenever he uses his skill, and since his S1 is 3 hits offensive recovery, you apply Frighten every 5.2 secs (1.3 secs interval, so that makes it 3.9 secs charge with another 1.3 secs waiting for the skill to land for a total of 5.2 secs cycle) and therefore achieving perma Frighten stall. You use this technique to Frighten stall the Steam Knight buying you time to redeploy dpses, here is the strat #strategy message

[modern copper]

BGUWUH?????

HOLY FUCK!!!!

[full terrace]

Here is the video example on how this works #strategy message

For reference

[modern copper]

will it always be frighten?

or is it random

[full terrace]

If you pick up the wand

The wand is RNG

[modern copper]

but is it guaranteed to spawn or not at all?

[full terrace]

The spawn is RNG, sometimes you spawn them, sometimes not

But once you pick it up, Humus will perma Frighten stall

[modern copper]

how does that move target? like normal?

[full terrace]

Move target? You mean Alistair spawning the equipment?

[modern copper]

yeah

cus it doesnt seem to be global

why is it able to target yato from that far?

[full terrace]

Global is for CM, Alistair has global range on CM

On Normal you just activate the device

Near your blue box there is a device

Activate it for the wand

Costs 25 DP btw

[modern copper]

is there a way to deal with regular that doesnt deal with rng?

i almost got to the end

[full terrace]

Yah you can face tank the Steam Knight using someone like Ulpi for example

Whats your Nymph mastery level

[modern copper]

wb zuole

[full terrace]

S2M3?

[modern copper]

zero

well

7

[full terrace]

Ah thats a bit difficult

[modern copper]

i have stainless

[full terrace]

You can use a combination of

Nymph+FRDs

[modern copper]

the biggest problem for me rn is the overhead max-hp targeting and the fact that zuole gets oneshot in 2nd phase for some reason

[full terrace]

2nd phase is the hardest yeh

The max HP target will always take the device because it has 7k HP

The 2nd one you can just bring anyone with super high HP and deploy him/her away from your defense line

[full terrace]

Zuo Le gets one shot because of Super punch

[modern copper]

zuo le has the highest hp

[full terrace]

That super punch will kill anyone who doesnt have super high HP

[modern copper]

in my entire lineup

across my whole account infact

[crude oak]

Contrail worth building?

[modern copper]

when's the last time you've seen an aerial enemy?

[full terrace]

Wait hold on

Zuo Le S1 is 5 secs Auto Recovery

Meaning he uses skill once every 5 secs

You can use his S1 with wand he will perma stall Steam Knight just fine

Just pick up a wand

[modern copper]

ive never used s1 in my life

[elder flume]

Contrail is funi

Breaks Ya mechanic

[crude oak]

who's Ya?

[elder flume]

Chongyue boss

[crude oak]

oh

[wicked minnow]

super high hp or super high survivability in general. bison survives if paired with silence2 he barely lives. bison on skill takes literally no damage. bison + silence2 s2 takes some damage but lives comfortably

i would imagine nian is similar

[weary grotto]

Hiii

[wicked minnow]

hiiiiiiiiii

[weary grotto]

Thanks for the tomimi dude

As expected, my pookie is so fun to play with

The question remain which skill provide better consistent dps

@wicked minnow

[wicked minnow]

for who exactly?

oh tomimi

[weary grotto]

Tomimi

[wicked minnow]

i am blind

i'd say s2 from what i've tested

[weary grotto]

But the increased damage is rng even witg 100%

[wicked minnow]

s2 has slightly higher average dps but with some tricks and stuff

it is a bit luck based tho

[weary grotto]

What is categorized as higher dps

Does it buff damage?

[wicked minnow]

wdym buff damage

it has a 33% of doing big damage

if you average it out, s2 will be dealing about the same damage

[weary grotto]

I prefer consistent, so s1 is the go to me

And if i can pair her with more aspd buffers it is a win

[wicked minnow]

tomimi does really bad with buffers especially s1

s2 does way better with more aspd but it's still not insane

[weary grotto]

Oh ok

[wicked minnow]

her trait gives her a lot of +atk% and her skill gives her a lot of attack speed

it just isnt worth buffing her most of the time

[weary grotto]

Imagine if in the futre there is an support bard that increases aspd of other op by atleasg 50

[maiden hound]

mon3tr

[wicked minnow]

i was gonna say, yeah mon3tr

[weak gazelle]

yeah mon3tr is what you looking for

[weary grotto]

How much aspd are we talking

[weak gazelle]

as you said earlier

[maiden hound]

60 something at s2m3 pot2? iirc

[wicked minnow]

it's like 56 or smthn on skill or close to it

[weary grotto]

Oh wow

It is a must save for me

[wicked minnow]

i heard that she is good. im still waiting on news on the 6th anni before i make up my mind on a pulling plan

[weary grotto]

@wicked minnow i got another thing i want to ask

Is there an sandbox mode?

Where i have unlimited resources to test new stuff?

[dusky hawk]

Thxx

[weary grotto]

Idk if reclamation algorithm count as a sandbox type

[wicked minnow]

if you mean like new units or certain units you want to try out, no but usually someone in support has the unit or you can test you luck in #friend-id and use discord's search feature to find someone who has the support you are looking for

[wicked minnow]

reclamation algorithm is a base building resource gathering gamemode that gives a lot of rewards but it takes a lot of built units from you to really get going with it

[weary grotto]

What i need is a stage where enemy is tanky and unkillable, but where you they deal little to no damage, so i can experiment stuff

I want to check if melanite s2 piercing bullet can damage the same enemy more than once if i move it along the trajectory of the bullet

[wicked minnow]

surely there's a good stage to test it on

[weary grotto]

A stage where they dont die from one hit

But not tedious enough to one shot or two shot my tank

[wicked minnow]

there isnt an unkillable tanky entity in this game, but there's like h7-2 which has tanky enemies spawn immediately and are afk for a while

[wicked minnow]

there's the chapter 10 slugs that have high damage reduction and low weight if you want to test

[weary grotto]

Ok

@wicked minnow do you have melanite?

[wicked minnow]

unfortunately no i do not

[weary grotto]

Oh ok

I wanted you to help me test melanite s2 on the multi tile seaborn boss or the multi tile dragon boss from ling's debut event

@wicked minnow i know, maybe you can try borrowing one from support :]

I cant do it cause i have no keys to unlock invitation to wine

[full terrace]

@modern copper Civilight Eterna technology if you have her

I tried Zuo Le, he hits too hard and he eats a lot of missiles from Steam Knight, not suitable for Frighten stall unless well.. Civilight Eterna. Penance works coz she has barrier, and the barrier mitigates missiles damage.

Thats your squad btw, except for CE

[wispy condor]

trying to help test melanite and found greythroat in support before her

[weary grotto]

Thank you very much😌

[wispy condor]

whats a doctor gotta do to find a Melanite Skill 2 around here

[wicked minnow]

yeah im not getting her either

[weary grotto]

If it works like yato alter, that means that i can use pushers alongside her

[wicked minnow]

i dont think it works like yato cuz if it did it would be more known

[wispy condor]

my intuition is that she'll only hit once kirin yato s3 is coded as multiple hitboxes as she travels, while melanite s2 is just one hitbox that tracks multiple targets

[wicked minnow]

if anything, im expecting it to work like underflow

[weary grotto]

Oh ok

[spark sinew]

(even if it does, damage is still shit)

but it shouldn't

[wicked minnow]

underflow has a very similar type of hitbox for her projectile

[wispy condor]

underflow s2 is very similar yeah

[spark sinew]

not like using pushers for this would be worth either, it's legitimately better to just slap manti or whatever

and stall instead

[wispy condor]

hit the 1min support cooldown melanite stocks down

[spark sinew]

just raise your own to e1

🫡

bruh

what cursed stuff have i found

[wicked minnow]

melanite propaganda in my ako??

[remote perch]

I swear whoever is writing Bot banner info is high

[maiden hound]

you should apply for that job

[remote perch]

Unfortunately this isn't a free country
Only people in power choose who do the job

This is like the Trump assigning a TV broadcaster as National Defense

[wicked minnow]

🫤

[restive valley]

Gahhh I give up. I will do GO Ex8 CM on rerun!!

[wicked minnow]

skill issue 🫵 😂

also you have the units for it

it shouldnt be that bad

[restive valley]

.... Dude, the SK screwed me over...

And also those boxes are not helping at all.

I am going to level my operators at this rate. Walter is almost done, later got to focus on Shu.

[wicked minnow]

oh yeah that would be a great idea

shu is awesome

very cozy

[restive valley]

Also, level Mlyner too as well... Sighhh too many operators need to level...

[wicked minnow]

wait

isnt there a furniture for go-ex-8 CM?

[restive valley]

It will come back on rerun I believe.

[wicked minnow]

i think it's the reason i got off my ass and did the CM on my alt

yeah but it wont give you intel creds on rerun if you dont do it now

[restive valley]

Forget about that!

Moreover, so far I only bought was orodumn and the credits from that shop.

Arghhh, can't spell the word at all...

[wicked minnow]

i cant spell it either

are you not using your santiy daily on the event

all the rewards are very worth it

[restive valley]

Huh, been clearing GO 7

At the very least I can get credits from shop and mats

[wicked minnow]

if you've been using all your sanity on the event since it began, you should be able to clear the shop

[restive valley]

Hard to say, since I'm literally juggling about three games now full of events.

Not to mention I got two games including Arknights, they have their limited events all on the same day... What a nightmare. My work is also not making my life any easier. Severely understaff this entire month and next.

[wicked minnow]

it feels like you're treating the games as a sort of second job

take your time to relax limited events are a time to be excited n shi :ya:

[restive valley]

Well, I kinda invested in these two games since launch sooo... Yeahhh...

[pure orchid]

Game is for fun and enjoy, not more work

If you dont enjoy, stop playing and do smth else

I dropped million of game i didnt know i dont want with this mindset

[weary grotto]

Is there anyway to skip episode 9 and go straight to 14?

[wicked minnow]

there used to be on chapter 14 release

[weary grotto]

🥲 theresa pls come home

[wispy condor]

trying again, managed to find a provence lmao

omg rosmontis m9

[azure roost]

just speedrun all chapter

[dapper hedge]

Yes, by playing it on the 2 weeks ch14 just release

[bleak blade]

anyone know how to clear EX8 with no wisadel and Mylnar?

[full terrace]

You borrow Wisadel or Mlynar

[bleak blade]

mylnar more useful here?

[full terrace]

Mlynar more useful yeah

He baits

Wisadel more firepower but I mean

[maiden hound]

the cross shaped attack from alistair really fucks up wis

[bleak blade]

nooooo

[full terrace]

I mean you have the firepower for it so

[bleak blade]

no need to deploy a lot here?

[full terrace]

Here is a low-end clear #strategy message and here is the strat #strategy message
Here are some simulations I made using people's squads: #strategy message and #strategy message and #strategy message and #strategy message

Watch them for reference on how to position your operators

If you are still stuck, I'll run you a simulation

[bleak blade]

ok nice

means I need gravel

[full terrace]

If you wanna borrow Mlynar, deploy Mlynar and then assign a Medic to him

He will act as infinite Gravel

And he can also burst Alistair

And he can also burst the drones

[bleak blade]

probably Mylnar since he can take out alistair

[full terrace]

Explanation for Humus #strategy message

[willow sun]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/ni82237lfy
update on the laneholder calcs "spreadsheet" if anyone wants to just mess around with it

we don't talk about why fedex isn't complete

[pure orchid]

Why is fedex not complete

[foggy grove]

why fedex

[narrow pendant]

Why

[willow sun]

because im lazy
instead write 400 formulas to calculate chonkyue dps

[willow sun]

ammo rng

[willow sun]

idk

[pure orchid]

dont u just

multiply by %/100 idk

[willow sun]

huh

[pure orchid]

attack dmg * 2(20/100)

tho thats only for the first shot, gg

u gotta add 5 to 20 for every ammo spent

nvm i didnt consider mod

ok wtf is this shit

attack dmg + ((attack dmg + 300)(35/100))

for the first fucking shot

[spark sinew]

can't you steal weeboos calcs

[pure orchid]

he has some?

adding 300 directly might be lazy and easily be weird on enemies with less than 300 def

[willow sun]

ngl idk how it works lmao

theirs also does actual statistics with standard deviations and stuff

mine is just going to be straight up 50th percentile average

hoederer is the only op with a varying value cause it’s not even consistent rng, it’s frameskip

i’ll probably look at theirs for inspiration but i won’t steal it

[dusky grove]

What's the idea for ex 8 cm

[full terrace]

You burst

If you dont have the dps, then Frighten stall

Here is a low-end clear #strategy message and here is the strat #strategy message
Here are some simulations I made using people's squads: #strategy message and #strategy message and #strategy message and #strategy message
Watch them for reference on how to position your operators

[full terrace]

It says returnee but new account works.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yeah i still leveling new acc to try that. No need to continue ig

[rapid junco]

Wtf life hack

[sly drift]

Where to input the code from other player

[sly drift]

So it can't be active player?

[violet sorrel]

ekhm, does using code from active dokutah work also?

[tawdry path]

nope

has to be 'returnee'

aka new account works

[violet sorrel]

bbbb-ut he said work from new account

whaa

[sly drift]

So You basically have to nitpick someone just for this reward?
Fking cringe

[tawdry path]

ak have done this for a couple of times now

oh well

[glass monolith]

Someone who didn't login for 60 days - aka missed login cringe and potentially lost their accounts

[full terrace]

Never tested but I'm guessing you can. You wanna be my "returnee" to test?

[violet sorrel]

suuure?

try swap then

[full terrace]

DG2B6C8A2J

[violet sorrel]

sadge

[full terrace]

Yah okay active players cant

But new accounts can

I literally just played through the tutorial

[violet sorrel]

doesnt need to be Lv20?

[full terrace]

No, it's Lv1 literally

Lemme grab a screenshot brb

[violet sorrel]

kk i go try

[violet sorrel]

why mine said there is no character

[full terrace]

Lol what

Mine works just fine idk

You see the screenshot

You can also search the username Haha1#8067

[violet sorrel]

wrong account, mybad

[tidal sedge]

Unsure whether to pull Lapipi Or not

[elder flume]

Toss a coin
Roll if tails

[tawdry path]

what if it landed sideways

[elder flume]

Then do 5 pulls

Or Kernel

[tawdry path]

those terms are acceptable

kernel?!

[spark sinew]

you should pull at least until first 6*

[tidal sedge]

Got tails

[glass monolith]

I will probably till first 6* on Lapp

Want niche shiet from events over all this limited stuff

[elder flume]

Yu is too good to pass

[full terrace]

I'll be kicking Ulpi out of my main team and replace him with Yu

[pure orchid]

What...

I thought you were a member of the Church of Ulpi

[full terrace]

😂

I run 3 Guards in my main team, the other 2 are way too flexible to be replaced

Ulpi's and Yu's role are the same for that particular slot so..

[full terrace]

Go make a new account yourself

[narrow pendant]

Oh true, we can scam it

But making 5 alts is so much work

[full terrace]

1 alt 5 days login

[glass monolith]

I am not paid for this shit

[scarlet mortar]

is the "strategy" rn to get some random schmuck to help bro out

[full terrace]

Ikr 😂

[glass monolith]

Maybe he looks for actual returnee player... In like last chat where person not playing AK for 2+ months would be

[full terrace]

Thats begging tho, still not on topic for strat channel

[narrow pendant]

Oh really?

Nice, gonna do that

Thankies

[celest bluff]

I just remembered that I have an old account

[wicked minnow]

saaaame

[elder flume]

Youre gona get 30k lmd

Fate is predetermined

[full terrace]

For real

I got 30k LMD too smh

Those vouchers arent real

[elder flume]

30k is pretty substantial ngl

10% of E2ing a 5star

[celest bluff]

Half a day of RIIC

[wicked minnow]

3 runs of the lmd stage

[celest bluff]

A CHANCE?

I haven't read the event info

The fuck you mean "CHANCE"

[elder flume]

99.95% chance lmd

[celest bluff]

I am not gonna open the old account for this

[narrow pendant]

Oh man

The alt needs to be lvl20

Guess i need to work a bit🥹

[spark sinew]

did they fix it

i saw people posting lvl1 accs satisfying the req

[narrow pendant]

Looks like it

Made an alt and when i tried to login in the web event

It said the "game characters doesnt exist"

🥹

[pure orchid]

I wonder if those who got in before the fix get their rewards revoked

Imagine someone that get enough orundum for 1 pull
Pulls on idk vina
And then when they come back their orundum is negative

[modern copper]

i think i might just scrap zuole and bait missiles with saria tequila and a healer, what do you think

[timid ruin]

Help me do IW 9 pls

[wispy condor]

swap to ethan s1, you need the dot to clear the flames
borrow kirin yato s3

[dusky hawk]

Point of no return strat?

(Is my team winnable)

[smoky halo]

maybe

depends on relics

[south spindle]

Wisadel will blow him to smithereens
he spawns at bottoms walks through top only caveat hes like invis?
is he invis or does he take reduced damage i never paid attention

[analog mirage]

U don't have much damage other than wis

[sick knoll]

just walter the entire right side i guess

[smoky halo]

u habe to try and 1 cycle

[dusky hawk]

Can someone circle where I should put wis

[analog mirage]

If phantom slips by wis it's basically joever

[south spindle]

yeah if you don't kill him with wisadel the rest of your units get wiped and he walks around and breaksthe blocks

[sick knoll]

he does have like 19 hp

[dusky hawk]

Walter?

[south spindle]

Put wisadel next to the dog face right and have someone block the guy when he walks into wisadels range

[dusky hawk]

Uh

Wha-

[analog mirage]

Place saria on the choke and aim wis to the right from the middle high tiles

[dusky hawk]

Oh ok

[analog mirage]

Kill the witches in the circle and deactive wis skill

[dusky hawk]

Looked at the map and now idk where those tiles are.. can you pls circleeee (yes I’m braindead)

[analog mirage]

Red is saria and green is wis

[dusky hawk]

And wis faces right?

[analog mirage]

Yes

[dusky hawk]

Kk

[dusky hawk]

I place wis first right

[analog mirage]

No do saria first the witches circle for a while

[dusky hawk]

K

[analog mirage]

when phantom spawns activate wisadel and pray

all ur other units should help out saira

saria

[dusky hawk]

Oki

The dogs r leaking

[analog mirage]

thats kinda unavoidable

i also wont place any squishy chars in top left

mages target that spot

[glass monolith]

YOU HAVE 18 HP TO SPARE

[dusky hawk]

Oh..

[analog mirage]

its not over yet

[dusky hawk]

It’s basically over now

[analog mirage]

saria has no dps helping her out

[dusky hawk]

Some person just assaulted my backline

[analog mirage]

that would be phantom

[dusky hawk]

What do I do

[analog mirage]

its over

[dusky hawk]

K

[wispy condor]

lucilla

[glass monolith]

Get dodged

[analog mirage]

shouldve deployed teq and amiya ngl

[dusky hawk]

I GOT TO THE 79th PERSON AND THE 80th TANK MEAT DUDE JUST

HE TICKLED ME 😭

[analog mirage]

its fine think of it as a learning experience

[dusky hawk]

… thank god my school doesn’t give me “learning experience”

It is now 3:47am 👍

[south spindle]

hello this is the iberian inquisition

[dusky hawk]

Hi Iberian inquisition I’m sleepy

[proud bluff]

[dusky hawk]

Your pfp is cute

[somber falcon]

Just refrain from doing is for the time being tbh
You're not completing any runs soon with a bunch of e1 lvl 1 ops

[dusky hawk]

I don’t wanna do resource stages tho

[analog mirage]

wis can solo is2

[willow sun]

wow its like silence

[somber falcon]

can

[willow sun]

btw this is the cursed estimation formula im using now

chance of getting at least one rate up in 300 pulls on a limited banner*

[analog mirage]

just looking at that hurts my brain

[dusky hawk]

I’ve covered most of that but I think I’ll learn the rest in yr 10

[willow sun]

dw its just a bunch of slop numbers, they don't actually mean anything

[somber falcon]

You do you, then

[dusky hawk]

Cause ppl told me it’s a waste of sanity

[analog mirage]

base mats are not a waste of sanity

[somber falcon]

[south spindle]

Okay simulating a billion pulls give me 10 minutes

[dusky hawk]

Yea ppl told me just to upgrade base and save the yellow rock stone things

[wicked minnow]

if you guys are talking about event stages, it's never a waste of sanity to farm resources from event stages

[dusky hawk]

M talking about resource stages rn

[glass monolith]

Time to write lets_go_gambling.py to calculate that shit

[analog mirage]

u should still do all the resource stages once for op tho

[proud bluff]

Do you have values that high in order to simulate a large sample size ?

[wicked minnow]

oh you mean the one that gives the mats to build rooms in your base?

[willow sun]

nop i brute forced it LOL

[dusky hawk]

The ones for exp and lmd

[analog mirage]

prolly talking about stages in supplies tab

[willow sun]

basically i just slapped in increasing number of digits until the cumulative chance of getting a 6% was exactly 50%

[wicked minnow]

exp and lmd stages should only be really done once to get the op as Knight said

[willow sun]

and ended with 4530247087

[wicked minnow]

you can do the deep investigation and monthly squads in IS to get resources now if you need it

[dusky hawk]

And where to get exp and lmd (I know event stages, base and the thingy I was just doing)

[south spindle]

Thats messed up
not numerically just whatever led you to make that

[dusky hawk]

What’s deep investigation

[steep jungle]

I forgot there is other channels

[wicked minnow]

ye other than base and event stages, you got IS

[wicked minnow]

it might be locked for you if you never beat an IS yet

[willow sun]

basically what this means is in 14530247087 tests, 4530247087 will get 1 six star every 34 pulls while 10000000000 will get 1 six star every 35 pulls

i love brute force

[wicked minnow]

the one to the very left

[dusky hawk]

I don’t have it

[wicked minnow]

you can do monthly squads for now for all the IS

[dusky hawk]

It is locked as sheilds said

[dusky hawk]

Oki

[somber falcon]

Do the supply stages until you can get to 4-7 to unlock full base upgrade and have base slave built

[analog mirage]

u need to beat it once to unlock it

[proud bluff]

This does look a bit unscientific ngl

[willow sun]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/ir8hinzqak
ok final final version

[analog mirage]

ur base is ur main source of exp and lmd

[wicked minnow]

to unlock monthly you can just do 1 run of said IS and quit out and i believe that unlocks the monthly squad in that IS

[dusky hawk]

I have is monthly, what does it give

[willow sun]

see it is, but its like the same logic of how integrals work
if you zoom in enough the graph is estimated well enough by a shit ton of straight lines
regardless, i can't actually plot an exact formula for the number of pulls since the game's probability function only works for integers

[analog mirage]

chips and mats

[dusky hawk]

Oki

[analog mirage]

glue exp and lmd too

also mod blocks

[willow sun]

like literally, if you tried to plot numbers betweent the integers the formula will just throw a fit and tell you to die @proud bluff

so brute force linear estimate is the best i could do

[south spindle]

LMFAO

[willow sun]

i could do a regression formula to estimate it but im too lazy to open my coding software

[wicked minnow]

for monthly you just reach floor 3 and quit out and that give you the rewards

[south spindle]

I'm taking this as final but I trust the one where I did 300 each better

[dusky hawk]

K

[proud bluff]

Is it normal you're attributing values to "a" twice ? isn't it why it's tweaking lol ?

[south spindle]

@willow sun link to the odds of 6* one again

[willow sun]

actually let me double check, i meant to remove the first a

[willow sun]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/ktx5cdkkd5

[south spindle]

Welp 0.0289 is about 8.67~ a new number has entered the playing field

[willow sun]

[south spindle]

Okay doing stdev with these screwed up numbers will not work

this is not a normal distribution 😭 im stupid

[willow sun]

ok i plotted a regression model on top of it
god i almost pinged supah again @south spindle looks good?

aand that should be the average number of pulls

34.39594, cool

0.245% higher than my original linear estimate

[proud bluff]

Looks like what you would expect of the pity system ya
Tho if i ever do reach 80 pulls without 6* i'm linking this to HG

[willow sun]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/vvbw77vkub
ok finally its fixed

[willow sun]

LMFAO

hold on i just remembered i have class halfway across campus in 13 mins

time to go on a light jog

[south spindle]

Lmfao okay

I think the axis is incorrectly numbered let me fix

[willow sun]

i think maybe you have it so all the probabilities at each pull is cumulatively 1

[south spindle]

Kind of?

[crude oak]

Mod 1 only for Lapptop?

[south spindle]

I need to fix a few things realizing it is flawed

[south spindle]

yes

[crude oak]

mod 3 offer no advantage or what?

I honestly haven't even seen what mod 3 offers

[proud bluff]

Very marginal

[south spindle]

Its really piss

[willow sun]

iirc just a bit of aspd

[willow sun]

+6 at mod2 and +4 more at mod3

[crude oak]

yeah, it's kind of garbage

[willow sun]

yeah

[south spindle]

first skill activation

[willow sun]

also idk if aspd even affects her wolves so

[proud bluff]

it does, but not travel time

[south spindle]

How fast they travel? idts

[crude oak]

would Y module be better to wait for?

[willow sun]

yeah travel time is what i was thinking of, mb forgot to specify

[crude oak]

Virtuosa Mod 3 though, right?

[wicked minnow]

better base mod trait for unreleased mod, i'd get current mod because it will probably be a long ass time before her other mod tho

[proud bluff]

no travel time is fixed, i don't remember the exact tile/s values, they go faster over time if they didn't reach their target, but aspd has no effect on it

[wicked minnow]

virtuosa mod level depends on your level of virtuosa

you might need to do calculations or testing

[crude oak]

E2 90 M6

[wicked minnow]

dragongjy has a calculator for it

[crude oak]

Vulpisfoglia Y Mod better over all

his sheet recommended Virtuosa's

[wicked minnow]

vulpis y would be the better pioneer mod with an increase to her dp gen talent. should be better from the base trait alone

[crude oak]

agree, less DP on deploy the better

but does anyone actually use Pioneers anymore?

I rarely do after Ines, except SSS

[willow sun]

i mean vulpis is going to be the strongest pioneer so

[crude oak]

fair, Flametail is currently my favorite

[willow sun]

it’s kinda like judging wis pre-banner because “does anyone actually use flingers anymore”

except on a much smaller scale

[acoustic slate]

It’s not like that

[glass monolith]

Good news - Strongest Pioneer. Bad news - Ines

[south spindle]

im gonna crash out

[acoustic slate]

Vulpis is good but doesn’t move the needle for meta

[willow sun]

yeah that’s what i meant by on a much smaller scale, but my point still stands that if they beat their competition by a considerably margin it’s not fair to say “oh but no one else uses any of their competition anymore”

[willow sun]

are you trying to use C or Python?

[south spindle]

python...

[glass monolith]

Uh..... is x defined?

[willow sun]

[south spindle]

i dont usually work with python...

😭

no the problem is im using PARENTHESES

to wrap the for loop

[willow sun]

are you forgetting the lower range bound for the first loop?

[south spindle]

the correction is taking out the outer layer of parentheses

[willow sun]

huh.

[acoustic slate]

I don’t think she beats the competition by a considerable margin

But I guess idk what you consider considerable 🚬

[south spindle]

CDF (Cumulative)

[willow sun]

i mean depends on the context i suppose, definitely considerable in the dps field but idk about utility or dp gen

[glass monolith]

I did UI on Python in my diploma project. Doing UI blind is awesome and cursed

[glass monolith]

Screw the graph, show me how you set up loops to make them work

[willow sun]

yup looks like mine

[south spindle]

i just said, its taking out the outter parentheses 😭...

the top one is incorrect

the bottom one is correct

[glass monolith]

[willow sun]

@south spindle how does his look for an average of the percentage of shots fedex will crit on during s3

it’s a lot simpler than i was anticipating but maybe i was just overestimating the calculations

[glass monolith]

I don't quite follow

Oh wait min(). I fucking confuse min() max() again

[south spindle]

Ah the final burst counts?

and isn't it 5% increase chance on each shot

[willow sun]

yeah just so the chance of crit doesn’t go >100%

[willow sun]

oh wait i was thinking of the 6% atk lol, you’re right

[south spindle]

and also the first shot is base 35%

so n should start at 0

or do 0.05(n-1)

[willow sun]

oh yeah oh yeah so 0 to 16

cause 17 would be the shot after 17 ammo is consumed

[south spindle]

yeap

[willow sun]

anyways 1% batter brb

[glass monolith]

Maybe he runs insider for extra ammo

[south spindle]

if only spread shooter then chalter would reduce consumption 💀

well only increases on consumption

[glass monolith]

Chalter talent which has only 1 usage - Desync every auto with Chalter/Ash in it

[south spindle]

i started 3 months ago

during the nymph event it was Dossoles boss

my auto only works every several tries when my typhon

doesn't consume ammo 3 times on S3

💀

[willow sun]

i actually am including that as an option

[full terrace]

How are you going to block/stall the Steam Knight then? He hits hard and his super punch one shot most operators who dont have super high HP. I mean if you FRD+Nymph stall and burst quick that could work, but idk whether SL7 Nymph could work or not.

[willow sun]

@pure orchid @foggy grove @narrow pendant for the three of you wondering why fedex wasn't complete i present to you:

hell

and no, it doesn't fit

also fedex is done ya
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/fqrza2kezq

[glass monolith]

[willow sun]

ok now time to ask myself if i want to add qiubai and vulpis

[glass monolith]

I have no fucking clue what those formulas are but i can relate to math going nuts. Are you sure you didn't include imaginary unit by accident somewhere?

[willow sun]

i wish fedex was nothing more than a passing thought but unfortunately no

[wicked minnow]

add qiubai and vulpis angle

[south spindle]

Wow don’t ping me when you drop a masterpiece 💔

[willow sun]

i already have vulpis calcs, i'll just need to run some calcs to get qiubai's dps over time (or i just get lazy and do a high/low dps)

[modern copper]

it worked

it actually worked

now i gotta do cm within 5 hours

how to adapt this strat to cm?

i tried doing gravel texas baiting but the drones killed me cus i ddint have logos timing right

[glass monolith]

Step 1 bring Gravel or idk you need some of those boss attack baits

[modern copper]

dude the rng here is especially fucky

sometimes alistair summons a sword and oneshots ela when everyones on cooldown

[glass monolith]

I still don't know how sword yeet works

[modern copper]

sometimes alistair hits the wrong guy

[modern copper]

i think its regular targeting physical damage ranged attack, counterpart to the shield and the lion summon

[modern copper]

its really fucky and i dont know a reliable way to stall

sometimes logos doesnt even do enough damage to onecycle alistair

i want to place saria where i did in regular stage before i place zuolmao but she get s oneshot by 3 silmoultaneous lions, the yellow steam knight, and a whole host of otehr things

[willow sun]

do you have gladiia built?

[modern copper]

i dont have gladdia

krooster in bio

[willow sun]

wtfart

can you get her and e1 her?

[modern copper]

i can try, but is there any other way?

[south spindle]

ulpianus is kind of really strong

but you can still try wisadel if you have some tank

[modern copper]

i dont have him

[willow sun]

are you purposefully avoiding using wisadel?

[south spindle]

well thats why you use your own gladiia and borrow ulpianus

[modern copper]

yeah but i'm desperate enough to stop

[willow sun]

kudos but

personally i'd clear it first with wis

just for the medal

and then try and do a no-wis clear

think of her as a failsafe, its fine to rely on it otherwise why do you have it

[modern copper]

true

[willow sun]

or you can wait for rerun

[modern copper]

hardest part will probably be getting through the shield

[willow sun]

cant zuo le just solo allistair?

[south spindle]

Can zuole stall steamknight or no

[willow sun]

thats probably going to be ulpenis' job

he also has silencer e2

[south spindle]

well if hes too lazy to get gladiia

[willow sun]

so maybe that could be useful

[south spindle]

who?

[modern copper]

i wish, his defense second phase is weirdly high

[south spindle]

No masteries on nymph S2?

[willow sun]

its around 2000, yeah

[modern copper]

nopr

[south spindle]

I think you can do this without borrowing but gonna be a little pain also because I don't see any agents

Oh yikes only E2 medic is purestream

Nvm this might be a little very hard

[modern copper]

AND PERFUMER

wait did i ?

[south spindle]

It says E1 60

I guess fine not bad

[modern copper]

oh shit i didnt update my krooster

i have ng e2d

[south spindle]

But like would be nice to have one good single target medic

Oh NG??

[modern copper]

ouie

[south spindle]

Okay thats a big one

For surviving the phase 2 burst

Because he does arts when he does aerial strike thing

[modern copper]

but its physical damage right?

HE WHAT

WHY DIDNT I KNOW THAT BEFORE

[south spindle]

the 2 smaller steam knights also nuke when they come out in phase 2 but i think they're physical

they only nuke once

and those two be deleted by logos and gang but just need to kill everything else stall LSK in phase 1 then

prep for phase 2

[modern copper]

i was actually able to tank phase2 burst with uhh saria and tequila in the clip

[full terrace]

Congrats. The CM strat is more or less the same, if you could burst Steam Knight with the FRDs bait on Normal, you should be able to do it again on CM it just has more stats.

You could alap bring a couple more Defenders in case Saria went down

[modern copper]

the worst part is handling early phase

[full terrace]

And swap to these new Defenders right away

[modern copper]

not enough dp to go around with absolutely everyoner

also my logos doesnt onecycle reliably anymore which SUCKS

[south spindle]

maybe you just wanna borrow an ines lmao

[modern copper]

actually wait if i put in elysium, use his skill once and undeploy im able to get ela, zuo, and logos out

[south spindle]

Might also be worth both Myrtle and Elysium

[full terrace]

You bring FRDs with you no? Use the constant bait method like you did with Talulah

Alistair targets the last deployed operator

[modern copper]

the timings are REALLY weird this time

and theres no telling when he might pull out a sword