how come you dont just ling solo GO-9?
#strategy
full terrace
What Fredi said. If you just spam Ling's dragons, the role each dragon is performing will be a bit harder for newbies to discern, on the other hand if you use real units like a Defender, newbies can tell right away what that unit's role is, and so if they have better units, they can just bring them.
Another reason would be the availability of the Support Unit. A lot more people set units like Wisadel and Mlynar as their Support Unit, and so they are easier to find for newbies.
You are welcome
vocal leaf
people using a boring ah hoshi instead of hoederer vs steam knight offend me 
hazy sinew
What Fredi said. If you just spam Ling's dragons, the role each dragon is perfor...
I mean newbies won't learn too much
from a ling solo
but it's a piss easy guide to follow
learn that ling dragon invincible
spark sinew
(if you want an actual answer, it's because of biases)
needing double defender + medic + rng for the boss stage is uhhh... yeah
fathom swift
I'm at ending 3 for IS2 never did this ending. What's the mechanic? It seems like I need two lainholders
full terrace
Instead of throwing shades and be despicable about it, it would be nice if you post your version of low-end clear to help those newer players, without copying arkrec or someone else's clear if that is all you know how to. I'm sure newbies will benefit more than just pointless argument.
spark sinew
I'm at ending 3 for IS2 never did this ending. What's the mechanic? It seems lik...
idk what erato js doing here
no vanguard sucks
swap logos' skill
boss will summon stuff on undeployable tiles and you need to kill it
summons do damage around them, so you need to either commit healer for each lane, or to use eyja3 to heal periodically
fathom swift
Erato there cus I have no one better to replace her 😓
full terrace
I'm at ending 3 for IS2 never did this ending. What's the mechanic? It seems lik...
You need to kill the boss's turrets basically, he spawns quite a bit of them. Also he is stationary most of the time, you just need to focus on the turrets.
spark sinew
if one of your lanes dies because of low healing etc, it's very hard to salvage, because boss nerfs dp regen
fathom swift
So I can't just kill the boss? Omg someone should've told me to bring fast redeploys 💔
spark sinew
Instead of throwing shades and be despicable about it, it would be nice if you p...
I'm sure me having original (if worse) clear would help newbies a lot, yeah
fathom swift
Wait I have the abyssal hunter guy he'll do
spark sinew
So I can't just kill the boss? Omg someone should've told me to bring fast redep...
should've brought a flag yeah
fathom swift
I'll let y'all know if I defeated the stage. Ty for the advice
spark sinew
wisadel covers half the map so it's fine
logos covers other half
i would probably swap wisadel skill as well, unless you have 500 atkspd
fathom swift
i would probably swap wisadel skill as well, unless you have 500 atkspd
I have 70 on her
spark sinew
mainly concerned about survivability I'll be honest
damage shouldn't be a problem regardless
elder flume
EX8 is 350s timer
full terrace
I'm sure me having original (if worse) clear would help newbies a lot, yeah
Surely. It gives them more options to pick among all those low-end guides out there, your method could be closer to their playstyle. People who make guides arent making records, there is no need for absolute low count op for it. Bias or not, it's your take and I will respect it. I personally respect people who put in more effort to help than the ones who just talk.
full terrace
EX8 is 350s timer
GO-9 is also 350?
fathom swift
I'll let y'all know if I defeated the stage. Ty for the advice
Lowkey idk if my positioning was good but I was really strugglying to pick a location. But thank god for the 3 star vangaurd and the collectable that gives sp everytime my operators get damaged by elemental dmg. They carried me 😭
elder flume
Unless CM brings it to 420 which would be weird and i wont be getting there for a while
full terrace
Ah alright good to know
elder flume
420s could just be for another Alistair encounter so not fully wrong
full terrace
Lowkey idk if my positioning was good but I was really strugglying to pick a loc...
Congrats
elder flume
We had access to level 0 1 2 3 since the start and sometimes level 1 ver of them never was found
Until years later
elder flume
Its level 1 + 20%
full terrace
Yah okay. Lemme know if it's indeed 420s when you reach there.
elder flume
Does Alistair attack device if theres nothing else to hit
wicked minnow
yes
elder flume
Oh so CM should be easier
wicked minnow
He can use his special attack on it aswell
Ye setup is a bit easier if you do that
wicked minnow
No taunt but if you dont deploy anything he attacks it
elder flume
Just need all 3 device to die before big SK spawn
wicked minnow
heavyrain s2 tech would go wild here 
willow sun
@spark sinew would you rather defense be based on the x-axis like this or a single value that you can adjust and it'll just spit out single numbers instead
willow sun
blue lines will be total dmg/skill
red lines will be dps
dph will be a single number cause you can't really plot that
this would be the alternative
for this example i set it to 1k def
personally i'd say the graph version is better in case there's %def ignore its easier to visualize (idk about the ones listed but for example ik degen has it)
spark sinew
<@275443477326725123> would you rather defense be based on the x-axis like this ...
the latter is much better eventually, assuming you share the thing itself, and not some screenshots
although if you can only bother to do one, the former is better for now
willow sun
its really easy to swap between the two
actually maybe i can make a toggle for that too, i'll try but atp i'm just coding in desmos
willow sun
yeah i can make a toggle for it @spark sinew
lemme send a prototype
only pepe s2 is done atm
proper goblet
Someone said its 420s due to wiki but this proves wrong so
It is specifically for the Chapter 15 boss battle
elder flume
Alistair is there ?
wooden remnant
hi, this is my current roster, any suggestions on who to build? also, which one should i get from my free 6 star ticket
wintry gulch
hi, this is my current roster, any suggestions on who to build? also, which one ...
silverash, prioritize e2ing him and thorns
wooden remnant
silverash, prioritize e2ing him and thorns
then who should i. build here?
wintry gulch
then who should i. build here?
e2 = build, aside from those 2 you can use the 5* e2 voucher on specter/amiya and upgrade cuora/gummy/vigna/kroos
wicked minnow
build usually implied e2 with m3 on prefered skill and module
scarlet mortar
well that means fully built
wooden remnant
should i use warfarin? just got her
scarlet mortar
you don't have to fully build ops one by one
wooden remnant
and is there any noteworthy 4 stars i have?
scarlet mortar
should i use warfarin? just got her
not a prio
wooden remnant
not a prio
i only have myrhh and susanoo as my healers though
full terrace
Rerolling on Lappland banner would be nice there
wintry gulch
and is there any noteworthy 4 stars i have?
cuora, vigna, gummy, one of the medics, pinecone when you get her
scarlet mortar
cuora's great
wooden remnant
cuora, vigna, gummy, one of the medics, pinecone when you get her
okay thanks
so just myrhh and susuro is okay?
scarlet mortar
ditch myrrh
wooden remnant
just susuro?
scarlet mortar
raise perfumer once you get her, that or go with warfarin later on
if you're really stuck for healing you can raise ansel
he costs less and does abt the same work as myrrh anyhow
wooden remnant
ahh okay so warfarin is a no go?
wintry gulch
warfarin is great but her main use is s2 (drain hp for big atk boost)
wooden remnant
also should i replace fang with scavenger
wintry gulch
fang + vigna imo, next banner (which you should pull on) has a decent pioneer vanguard
wooden remnant
okay so scratch scanvenger?
wicked minnow
hi, this is my current roster, any suggestions on who to build? also, which one ...
did you use up all your tickets in the depot?
wicked minnow
isnt there one more?
wintry gulch
btw, use #help for these types of questions, this channel is mostly for clearing stages
wooden remnant
isnt there one more?
which one?
wintry gulch
isnt there one more?
idts
wicked minnow
oh i might be mistaken ig but i do remember people recommending ptilo + silence + lapp for beginner
wooden remnant
i watched a yt vid and it said projekt red and specter LOL
somber falcon
i watched a yt vid and it said projekt red and specter LOL
Red is only an option if you already have others, spec is out of the picture with blaze in the free 6* ticket
wintry gulch
except you shouldn't pick blaze for the 6* ticket??
wooden remnant
Red is only an option if you already have others, spec is out of the picture wit...
but blaze isn't the priority
wooden remnant
except you shouldn't pick blaze for the 6* ticket??
exactly
somber falcon
You do you then
wintry gulch
specter is one of the best options on the 5* selector especially considering newbies get a e2 voucher now
somber falcon
Ok what the actual fuck
wintry gulch
prog skip is crazy ikr
somber falcon
You just came out of cryo sleep from 2020 or something?
wintry gulch
💀
wintry gulch
You just came out of cryo sleep from 2020 or something?
?
full terrace
Whats with that Specter suggestion
wooden remnant
bruh
somber falcon
Tf spec gonna do
wintry gulch
what would you pick then
wooden remnant
then WHO do YOU suggest?
wooden remnant
what would you pick then
right
somber falcon
Lapp
wintry gulch
ehh
full terrace
Take Lappland who else
wintry gulch
you get 2 6*s in like the first 3 days and at least one of them is gonna be a lord
somber falcon
then WHO do YOU suggest?
Why the heck are you getting mad, you're the one needing help and looking at 2020 video 
wooden remnant
yknow what fuck it man im not rerolling cause ive already invested like a week into my account
wintry gulch
if you need her for SN or something you can just grab support, no?
somber falcon
Well yeah nobody's saying you need to reroll here
somber falcon
What
wintry gulch
he's not suggesting it
wooden remnant
yes
somber falcon
It's the free 6* ticket
wooden remnant
he's not suggesting it
not directly
wintry gulch
just discussing optimal picks
somber falcon
You already spent that?
wintry gulch
they're deciding what to pick from it
wooden remnant
you know
wintry gulch
(thorns from beginner)
somber falcon
If you're already spent that how tf should i know
somber falcon
Thorns is also in beginner banner
wintry gulch
(thorns from beginner)
they got thorns from beginner and are asking who to pick from the selector
wicked minnow
silverash
wintry gulch
chill out bruh
full terrace
You are asking for help, people answered
wicked minnow
well you dont have an e2. an e2 tequilla is better than most 6*s at e1
somber falcon
My fucking guy
You mentioned "red and spec is the pick"
I fucking corrected that
wicked minnow
you didnt use all your resources. that's kinda the point of why i asked
somber falcon
If you feel offended at being wrong, then boo hoo
wooden remnant
whatefver man
wintry gulch
My fucking guy
You mentioned "red and spec is the pick"
I fucking corrected that
so what is the pick then
i'd pick silence spec over red spec but i wouldn't pick lapp over spec
somber falcon
6*? Blaze since already thorns
5⭐? Depends on what's already there, but either silence>lisk and lapp from bigger selector
wicked minnow
get silverash for 6*s
he's the only burst youd have
his burst still holds up quite well after mod
wintry gulch
6*? Blaze since already thorns
5⭐? Depends on what's already there, but either s...
sa>blaze
somber falcon
Borrowing sa is faster than raising him to e2
You don't need the 90s burst that often anyways in early game
Add to that he'll be competing with prio with thorns
wintry gulch
tbf sa is definitely annoying to use
wooden remnant
what does blaze even do
wicked minnow
a problem she has is that before e2 she's block 2 attack 2
wooden remnant
now im confused
wintry gulch
so she's still kinda competing with thorns/sa for e2 though not as much
wooden remnant
silverash or that girl
wicked minnow
SA
wooden remnant
wicked minnow
you're gonna have to focus on e2 for him and thorns tho that's the thing
somber falcon
so she's still kinda competing with thorns/sa for e2 though not as much
still the most solid out of the three laneholder in selector
tanky enough, doesn't need to block to start hitting, and least prone to getting overcrowded
spark sinew
Add to that he'll be competing with prio with thorns
and does it matter
you can e2 super fast nowadays
somber falcon
by grinding is?
spark sinew
by just idk
doing the story
somber falcon
can't really picture how that works 
wintry gulch
e2ing a 6* still takes a while for the average newbie
spark sinew
like uhh
back in the day we needed to actually raise shit somewhat evenly (even though you could say we "rushed" e2)
now newbies have free e2 for no reason, op support, and a ton of content to get first clear rewards from
clever hedge
it'll take a while but it's easy to do so as long as they work at it consistently, better to have a 6* unit good in the long term over a short term one that falls off quick
spark sinew
by just idk
doing the story
tbf chip wise i think you still should do IS, now that i think about it more
but you don't "need" to have some early carry to not feel bad in story
you just kinda roll over it with your 5* and support
wintry gulch
i'm not a big fan of giving e2 5* right off the bat tbh
skip straight past stages with an overleveled op and an overpowered support op without learning game mechanics
somber falcon
now newbies have free e2 for no reason, op support, and a ton of content to get ...
are the first clear missions still giving same mats from back then
or did they update that too along with the newbie banner
somber falcon
if it's the latter and they give corresponding mats to the banner/selector ops then yeah i can see how it's faster
spark sinew
you can e2 super fast nowadays
but yeah idt that's a good argument
wintry gulch
anni does give a shit ton, i'm not sure about first clear tho
spark sinew
but you don't "_need_" to have some early carry to not feel bad in story
can i change mine to this one
wintry gulch
anni does give a shit ton, i'm not sure about first clear tho
might be difficult to 400/400 some annis early on tho
somber falcon
can i change mine to this one
maybe 
hasty spruce
Now what the hell is this 💔
surreal star
@willow sun i’m really curious about your desmos project if you’re interested in sharing btw
is it like a compiled set of dps graphs?
willow sun
oh yeah its still a wip
yup hauck wanted a bunch of laneholders as graphs
this is what i have so far
the hidden files are completed ones
hasty spruce
what's the problem
I cnat place a single ground ontop 
spark sinew
?
willow sun
i usually make the attack stat its own variable but having to do a_{tk1}, a_{tk2}, yada yada isn't worth the effort so the dph calcs are a mess lol
spark sinew
why would you place it on top of ranged tiles
wispy condor
I cnat place a single ground ontop <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997>
the top lane enemies will stop in place and toss spears at someone within their range, and since they slowly lose hp you can just stall them that way until they die
hasty spruce
why would you place it on top of ranged tiles
I meant here
hasty spruce
the top lane enemies will stop in place and toss spears at someone within their ...
I actually have nothing
surreal star
i usually make the attack stat its own variable but having to do a_{tk1}, a\_{tk...
@gaunt granite
somebody made a bot to create dps charts so you might be interested in this too
wispy condor
place bubble on the 1tile chokepoint on the right side and theyll target her
surreal star
idk which ops the bot supports though
willow sun
<@1207634606178959380>
somebody made a bot to create dps charts so you might be ...
is that meant to be a channel/message link?
its a user link right now 
surreal star
it’s the bot tag
wispy condor
i want to see thorns/penance/mudrock calcs, if youre up for it
surreal star
yeah
willow sun
oh
surreal star
just dm it
surreal star
huh
willow sun
it appears as unknown to me so i thought you used @ instead of #
surreal star
it might be set to users sharing a server
it’s in dragongjy’s server if you want to join that
willow sun
is it just in his yt vid descriptions?
surreal star
i think so
willow sun
yeah i found it
ye i can see the bot now
thats really similar to what i wanted to make lol
i do think an interactive graph also has its upsides though, so i'll probably stick to my thing
hasty spruce
place bubble on the 1tile chokepoint on the right side and theyll target her
Does not work
wispy condor
Does not work
send screenshot
elder flume
hasty spruce
send screenshot
Nvm it was working
hasty spruce
This does NOT work or i just suck at timing
elder flume
what was your deploy order
wispy condor
deployment order issue
pure orchid
undeployed e0 silence and suss
wispy condor
oh wait thats e0 sussurro/silence
spark sinew
try putting medic...
wispy condor
What is ling borrow supposed to do here 🚬
shining borrow angle perhaps
wispy condor
looks like youre winning
azure roost
ofc
elder flume
wispy condor
two e2s by ch4 is normal with the kinds of resources they give newbies tbh
youre doing great
vocal leaf
logos, hoe, bassline 
wispy condor
based paprika enjoyer
azure roost
i still need to raise ines doe
and surtr
6-5
defender
then kill thrower using sniper
elder flume
This does NOT work or i just suck at timing
as others have said
level your medics
Luto can even move 1 right tbh to make placement easier
azure roost
@wispy condor i just grab blaze on selector because yep
i still need to raise vigil for early easy 3 block doe
for trash mobs
and prob lvl 70 bassline
@elder flume 
new doctor so real
159 days
wispy condor
sounds like youre having a great time honestly 
i dont think you need advice
willow sun
i can match the damage calc bot's graphs ya
azure roost
azure roost
sounds like youre having a great time honestly <:BreezeHappy:680548169649750106>...
i need support so add my acc
tyyytyyyty
elder flume
my supports have a 1% chance of being used
azure roost
i just need abudance of support
ngl 6-5 is a wall if player didnt know how to deploy their ops for thrower attack
azure roost
i cant simulate cuz all my ops are either E2 or level 1
oof
now im interested
what his unit
wispy condor
i need support so add my acc
Ori#6261 
elder flume
would be funny if Mapark updated to show deploy order
makes theorycrafting easier to be seen
azure roost
ngl usually its vanguard then defender for first side of theower
pure orchid
Erm doesnt it already have deploy order
azure roost
medic then sniper
so same on other side
then just find a way to dealt on bottom area
defender aint issue
the possessed one doe
melantha with frd can health with it but ye
need extra careful on red one
elder flume
Erm doesnt it already have deploy order
where
azure roost
mmm
elder flume
oh
but it doesnt put it in map
have to ss 2 parts
azure roost
gummy should be enough
prob use spot on second thrower when its came
on other side
wispy condor
@hasty spruce if youre still stuck consider borrowing ascalon
elder flume
my Canta kills too fast making dp harder
Hibiscus n Ansel skills are better than Ceylon Purestream but mine is maxed so 
Sussuro definitely wants S2
full terrace
This does NOT work or i just suck at timing
Still need help there?
elder flume
Another ver
https://youtu.be/XWOBUnzUZLc?si=5ER6nQUTVq2mkQ92
elder flume
watafak event ends in 3 days
full terrace
Drat I havent farmed enough mats
willow sun
well that sure is satisfying
full terrace
Time to Sanity boost with OPs
willow sun
who knew e2 50 mod3 pot1 max trust s2m3 specter blocking 3 enemies with 0 defense would deal exactly 80k damage in one skill
elder flume
im just gona do something dumb and time Eureka stun after Kafka sleep
elder flume
Omg i dont need Eureka
also i either timed Eureka at the same frame SK woke up and it still did missile or a frame off
Not a full 7500 hm
willow sun
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/6udgq5sj8g
@spark sinew progress for today, i should be able to finish tomorrow if fedex isn't as much of a pain in the ass as i think he'll be
the folders toggled OFF are the ones that i've finished
red lines = DPH
blue lines = DPS
black lines = total damage
full terrace
hasty spruce
<@753139071366463548> if youre still stuck consider borrowing ascalon
Nobody shows up except ling bro 💔
wispy condor
ascalon is a specialist
hasty spruce
Still need help there?
Yes
wispy condor
oh common issue if your player level is still pretty low. ask someone with ascalon to friend you
hasty spruce
After leveling up to lvl 21 everybody disappeared except for ling
hasty spruce
oh <:RosThink:826566635313299466> common issue if your player level is still pre...
Ohh
willow sun
Nobody shows up except ling bro 💔
ling is a supporter though
if you're looking for ascalon and finding ling that means youre looking in the wrong class
pure orchid
Friend limbo, classic
hasty spruce
ling is a supporter though
if you're looking for ascalon and finding ling that m...
Every class has no operators available
willow sun
Every class has no operators available
yeah that means you need an e2 op then, or maybe there was a dokutah lvl requirement as well
maiden hound
Every class has no operators available
try getting some friends in #friend-id
spark sinew
Every class has no operators available
if you really need it, i can add you
full terrace
Yes
Have you tried Rain's solutions? It's pretty solid
He made 2 for you
With your lineup, thats pretty good
Basically spoonfeeding
If it doesnt work (I doubt it) then I'll try to make a solution for you
full terrace
This #strategy message and this #strategy message
elder flume
i can definitely do EX8 with my strat but its gona be so frame perfect idk if auto can keep up
weak gazelle
uhmmm
i wont hope that much for auto
jaunty turtle
i feel like im getting super close but jaye keeps randomly dying when i try to silence stall the boss
how can i get rid of the boss before the robot goes to 2nd phase
theyre all low level e2 btw
no masteries and only a couple modules :(
hasty spruce
Another ver
https://youtu.be/XWOBUnzUZLc?si=5ER6nQUTVq2mkQ92
I forgot about dp recovery
Alright ill try
full terrace
Nobody shows up except ling bro 💔
Stick to your Ling then it's fine.
Just make sure you borrow that Ling from someone in your friendlist and she has Mastery 3.
nocturne cove
@civic bear can you check dms
hasty spruce
Stick to your Ling then it's fine.
Ok
full terrace
i feel like im getting super close but jaye keeps randomly dying when i try to s...
@jaunty turtle you borrow a burst dps. Wisadel works, Mlynar works. For Wisadel method, you can watch this for reference #strategy message and adjust accordingly. Here is the strat #strategy message also adjust accordingly. You can also make good use of the device (costs 25 DP) whichever works for you.
If you have the dps you dont need any form of stalling.
violet sorrel
hasty spruce
You mistimed her skill probably
An enraged possessed leader killed lings dragon quickly and got passed 2 times how do i prevent that
full terrace
Skill timing
hasty spruce
Skill timing
Ohhhh
full terrace
The first leader spawns around 30/42
hasty spruce
I forgot to press her skill
full terrace
When he is about to touch Ling's dragon
Activate her skill
This skill will last til the 2nd leader
The dragon is still dying even onskill tho, so prepare a backup dragon while you are at it
Study the timing, I already made a recording for that
hasty spruce
Study the timing, I already made a recording for that
I cant really see the recording
Its just pitch black
full terrace
It plays just fine over here
elder flume
owao actually works
full terrace
Ah might be file extension issue
I think
Both are mp4 but one is straight from the recorder, while the other is compressed using an app
glass monolith
Arf vids r usually like that
So i am not only one who sometimes open video in discord, have sound play but image stuck?
glass monolith
I just assumed it was like "me" thing because i am from Russia and using bootleg ways to bypass discord ban here
full terrace
Putin bans discord? 🤔
Thats a weird thing to do
wraith lark
can someone helpw with go ex 8?
full terrace
You should win easy
wraith lark
i clesred it with like 2stars
glass monolith
Putin bans discord? 🤔
Thats a weird thing to do
"We have 900 pages of banned content, it is reason to ban it". Our people who handle banning stuff are ... quite educated differently
wraith lark
You should win easy
i have skill issue
i dont have anyone tanky enough
and my healers dont heal enough
(i watched kyostine video)
full terrace
Mlynar can bait all of Alistair's attacks, you just need to heal him properly
And also have him schwing schwing the drones
wraith lark
i put him with 3healers and saria
full terrace
Logos can blast Alistair to the moon
Steam Knight you can maybe Zuo Le stall him, with a wand
wraith lark
so i want to put mlynar in the middle with healers
who do i put in the top or bottom lane to deal with the steam knights
also the big steamknigt just one shots all my units
when he does the charge attack in phase 2
rhats why i cleared it with 2stats
stars
full terrace
Alternatively you can also borrow Wisadel and have her blast everything in the middle, and focus your resources to the left. Watch this for reference if you wanna do it this way #strategy message
full terrace
also the big steamknigt just one shots all my units
The big Steam Knight can be stalled using a wand
wraith lark
The big Steam Knight can be stalled using a wand
like a crate with a wand? the pink one?
elder flume
Error detected
full terrace
like a crate with a wand? the pink one?
Yes
You see the wand applies Frighten for 10 secs to the enemy targeted by its wielder when the wielder uses his/her skill
So if you use operator that uses skill once every ~10 secs
You basically apply perma Frighten
full terrace
Watch this video for reference really #strategy message
elder flume
Not even a minute in and already discrepancy
tawdry path
thats prob lag or something, which made the timing off
normal galleon
Steam Knight you can maybe Zuo Le stall him, with a wand
S1 zuo le? Do you think a e1 50 zuo could survive the bombs?
glass monolith
Only my potato lags like hell in event?
I blame pre downloaded equipment drops of 3 kinds on every fucking tile.
wicked minnow
S1 zuo le? Do you think a e1 50 zuo could survive the bombs?
wdym survive bombs? just place other units beside him
tawdry path
S1 zuo le? Do you think a e1 50 zuo could survive the bombs?
a non mod3 zuo le wouldnt stand a chance
wicked minnow
it doesnt really matter if he had mod or not. there's not many units in the game that can survive the bombardment if they are just alone
tawdry path
id imagine s2 can tank a hit
normal galleon
I'll try a different way then
smoky rampart
Roast my squad.
wicked minnow
Roast my squad.
La Pluma and Narantuya good units. Indigo good for 4*s. gummy is nice too. everything else is not optimal and better to actually say that they are bad. also use indigo s2, it's significantly better especially when you invest more in her
lyric elbow
Is it better to use in game roster screenshots or from Krooster
smoky rampart
Is it okay to invest to la pluma?
wicked minnow
Is it better to use in game roster screenshots or from Krooster
just sharing with us the link to your krooster should be good
wicked minnow
Is it okay to invest to la pluma?
yeah la pluma is great especially starting out
scarlet fulcrum
Is it okay to invest to la pluma?
Get tequila and krooster instead
wicked minnow
i would say get tequilla and krooster too
scarlet mortar
La Pluma and Narantuya good units. Indigo good for 4*s. gummy is nice too. every...
noting that they should be using S2 though
scarlet fulcrum
Ur pluma already more than enough for now
scarlet mortar
indigo S1 suc
scarlet fulcrum
Make sure she is on skill lv7 too
smoky rampart
it is hard to level up my skill for la pluma too many items to farm lol.
but i am close to max her level and skill.
scarlet fulcrum
U can stop her lv for now tbh, skill lv takes priority
U prob want to save those lmd for building Base and e1 workers instead. Its very vital for early
lyric elbow
So this is my current roster
https://krooster.com/u/merunka
I'm struggling to clear GO EX 8 even in non challenge mode.
Most likely cuz of my skill issue 
pure orchid
change name bro
lyric elbow
fine
lyric elbow
🍊
narrow pendant
cough mandarinka cough
harsh oar
Roast my squad.
jessica = poor, gummy = rich, chiave = ur furry needs a few inches, la pluma = keeper
lavish gazelle
who should i borrow for go-5?
lyric elbow
So this is my current roster
https://krooster.com/u/merunka
I'm struggling to c...
Any recommendations on who to take for GO EX 8
vocal leaf
looks a bit under level
elder flume
who should i borrow for go-5?
Wis
elder flume
Any recommendations on who to take for GO EX 8
Gummy can basically last till the end i was just lazy switching Mountain skill which was the sole reason i used him there
tldr Jessica and or Mountain with arts gear
also just put Gravel 2nd deploy above Alistair and wait for gear drop before Wis skill
prisma urchin
i cant beat go-ex8 somehow, alistair does tep his staff and then i lose, i dont know why
lyric elbow
Wis
https://youtu.be/-u87GpuN7IA?si=YCs25GicPfagaY5i
I will now pray for you before bed every night
final pasture
For a newbie (start game from scratch), do you guys think E1 Click offers more value than E1 Amiya?
wicked minnow
significantly yes
way way way more value
amiya even with her insane talent at e2 still loses to an e2 click at cycle dps and it's not even close
wicked minnow
For a newbie (start game from scratch), do you guys think E1 Click offers more v...
amiya is just kinda bad that her best skill for sustained dps is s1. click is better. you can calculate dps if you want but yea i did that before and it wasnt close
weary grotto
Hello
I remember reading in some wiki that tomimi changes her attack interval to 0 when activating skil
Is that true?
wispy condor
if her atk interval was 0 shed be dealing infinite damage im afraid
tomimi cant do that, to put it kindly
frank stream
how does the boss of the current event work. sometimes it one shots sometimes it doesnt and i also dunno who it attacks
wicked minnow
I remember reading in some wiki that tomimi changes her attack interval to 0 whe...
hi tomimi connoisseur here. no she doesnt change her attack interval to 0. her attack interval doesnt change at all
wicked minnow
how does the boss of the current event work. sometimes it one shots sometimes it...
he has an attack that he launched that deals increased damage and places equipment in a + sign with a 25 second cooldown
weary grotto
hi tomimi connoisseur here. no she doesnt change her attack interval to 0. her a...
I am planning to invest everything to tomimi, which skill is m3 priority
glass monolith
wicked minnow
I am planning to invest everything to tomimi, which skill is m3 priority
i would recommend you to not do that but if you really wanted to you can s2m3. if you want to test her out i have a fully maxed out tomimi. s1m3 and s2m3 if you'd like to see the difference
weary grotto
i would recommend you to not do that but if you ***really*** wanted to you can s...
Pls, can i add you?
wicked minnow
Pls, can i add you?
sure ill send you my id in dms
lavish gazelle
do i need to use mylnar for GO-9? or is wis enough
wicked minnow
if you are using wisadel just be weary that she doesnt die since his charged attack is in a + so it's very likely he hits her
both work really well for the boss but this assumes you know what you are doing
lavish gazelle
both work really well for the boss but this assumes you know what you are doing
i dont
wicked minnow
lavish gazelle
i js knew mylnar tanks + taunts cause when i used wis she js turned to dust (watched some yt tutorial)
wicked minnow
I dont think the boss oneshots Wisadel here, so you should be fine borrowing her
oh
if that's the case use mlynar ig
lavish gazelle
alr ty
deep prairie
should be fine as long you follow deployment order
make sure to deploy tanks AFTER wis and don't put them close
but mlynar is easier yeah
lavish gazelle
should be fine as long you follow deployment order
make sure to deploy tanks AFT...
big lion melts my little cuora tank
and cuora is my only decent tank since she's the only leveled up and e1 tank
deep prairie
yep, it also depends not only on tanks but medics too
lavish gazelle
yep, it also depends not only on tanks but medics too
oh my medics are worse, no multi heal no e1
deep prairie
mlynar is more braindead i assume so just using him using guide is easier
willow sun
@surreal star @lofty stag do either of you guys know probability stuff well?
surreal star
<@354050473105424384> <@671198033832050709> do either of you guys know probabili...
what are you looking for?
willow sun
i'm trying to calculate the probaiblity of hoederer having an enemy stunned in any given instance
and i'm not sure if my markov chain or basic ass calculation is correct
surreal star
i have this assuming he crits 3 per stun
for each hit there's 3 opportunites to get a stun
no stuns on all 3 = no crit
willow sun
hmmm
ill keep looking at methods then
cause i remember doing this same thing when the topic of ethan binding with aspd was brought up
and i couldn't come to a satisfying conclusion
surreal star
you could ask chatgpt
surreal star
well rip
willow sun
i used a button/lightbulb analogy so thats why its talking about light
it estimates 60% downtime, 40% uptime
lofty stag
<@354050473105424384> <@671198033832050709> do either of you guys know probabili...
Mf do NOT remind of my stats course
That shit went ass
willow sun
Mf do NOT remind of my stats course
heeeeeelp
help me rbp
you know what a markov chain is right.....
wicked minnow
@willow sun i dont know what a markov chain is but wouldnt it be better to use probabilities and different states to come up with an answer
this shit remind me of the veritasium video on the coin flip where if it's heads you get woken up 1 time and if it's tails you get woke up 2 times type shit. the math seems very similar
willow sun
this shit remind me of the veritasium video on the coin flip where if it's heads...
huh, ive never heard of that one
lofty stag
yeah i definitely fucked up the markov chain <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997>
Imma be honest idk if I even learned what a Markov chain is
willow sun
Imma be honest idk if I even learned what a Markov chain is <:SkadiDaijoubu:8392...
noo nooooooooo
surreal star
yeah i definitely fucked up the markov chain <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997>
i think you'd need a 4th state for no stun
willow sun
OH WAIT i know why my markov is fucke dup
yeah i only have 3 states
but his stun lasts for 3 hits
wicked minnow
damn
willow sun
so there has to be a fourth
lofty stag
See you got it 
surreal star
lofty stag
this further proves why i hated my stats course
willow sun
ngl its pretty fun though
lofty stag
dont you have homework to do
willow sun
yeah that's right, i did a stupid and thought 3/4-3/16=3/8 for... some reason
ok yeah thats the same as 1-0.75^3 then
fleet wolf
Hello, I am trying to clear GO-EX-8 CM, the catch is I play AutoAfknights, which is offensive and defensive recovery skills only (+robots cause no skills). I struggle to make my winning strategy for GO-EX-8 work on CM due to boss' global range. Any help and ideas would be appreciated. (I have only 3 agents at my disposition as pseudo fast-redeploys).
- this is what I've cooked for normal mode:
willow sun
do on-deploy skills count?
full terrace
Ask @civic bear for inputs there, I'm sure he'll be happy to help people play nicheknight
fleet wolf
do on-deploy skills count?
no
willow sun
hm that makes it more annoyingthen
wicked minnow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFr9aBPJstg
for the start btw, you can kill the drone using exu s3 + ines bind (sacrifice ines)
wait thats not s3
fleet wolf
for the start btw, you can kill the drone using exu s3 + ines bind (sacrifice in...
s3 is not offensive recovery
willow sun
Hello, I am trying to clear GO-EX-8 CM, the catch is I play AutoAfknights, which...
im assuming your frd are puzzle chilchuck ines?
fleet wolf
im assuming your frd are puzzle chilchuck ines?
yeah, your quick-witted:D
willow sun
your main source of bodies must be them then
i dont think any summoners have off/def recovery skills, let me double check
nop, there aren't any
fleet wolf
I am afraid I will loose a lot of dps or crucial blockers idk, ofc I'll try
too bad there is timer on the boss
willow sun
yeah.. do you have mudrock?
fleet wolf
yes
willow sun
maybe she could bait with her shield
fleet wolf
mudrock is my main staller for mini boss
willow sun
ah nvm then
wicked minnow
how far did you get in CM?
fleet wolf
if she baits with her shield then she gets knocked out by mini boss
wicked minnow
what did your best run accomplish?
willow sun
too bad there is timer on the boss
isn't that a non-issue with lappland?
fleet wolf
I am at the beginning as they all die fast due to global range
willow sun
sounds like just completely ignore all the stage mechanics until you have enough dp to deploy almost everyone in your main team
fleet wolf
isn't that a non-issue with lappland?
wdym?
fleet wolf
sounds like just completely ignore all the stage mechanics until you have enough...
hmmm makes sense, but I wonder how to deal with small mobs that spwanpretty fast
limpid ore
the boss 350secs timer is silenceable
fleet wolf
its really dumb
whoa! awesome:D
willow sun
so as long as you buy enough time to get yourself set up for the steam knights, then just plop down lappland + mudrock bait and she can stall infinitely
fleet wolf
now we're cooking
limpid ore
he is also vulnerable to most negative status
fleet wolf
so as long as you buy enough time to get yourself set up for the steam knights, ...
that might be single most important advice that will win me the stage
btw hoederer is sooooo broken
willow sun
glad i could help lol
limpid ore
tbh, logos can solo dps the steam knights provided you have tank to distract them
fleet wolf
his s1m3 with module and chen is just insta heal all the way all the time
and crush everything
fleet wolf
tbh, logos can solo dps the steam knights provided you have tank to distract the...
logos is out, no auto
willow sun
sounds like ines bottom + puzzle top open, then chilchuck to bait out the cross aoe after using s1m3 then retreat, that should buy time for your laneholders, before finally ofc lappland mudmud
willow sun
tbh, logos can solo dps the steam knights provided you have tank to distract the...
its only offensive/defensive recovery types
not just afk, auto attack afk
willow sun
lsk is stunnable right?
limpid ore
i dont remember
willow sun
i feel like he is, lemme double check
fleet wolf
lsk is stunnable right?
what is lsk?
fleet wolf
I think so
willow sun
yup hes stunnable
fleet wolf
that's how mudrock survives most of the time with rosmontis stun
willow sun
if tanking's in issue in CM then you could use bibeak to stun him
willow sun
oh wait bibeak stun isn't auto activate
fleet wolf
bibeak does not stun on s1 does she?
willow sun
wis s1 then oops, but nvm youre using rosmo
wicked minnow
phase 2 cant be stunned
willow sun
bibeak does not stun on s1 does she?
no she doesn't, i was thinking of s2
limpid ore
most of swordmaster skill are offensive recovery
fleet wolf
yes
willow sun
yeah issue is you use mudmud as your bait in NM right
but who will you use as bait in CM?
i guess you could just cycle agents but thats a lot of micromanagement
i think he does cross attack every 24s?
limpid ore
chilchuck s1m3 is good for this exact niche
willow sun
then I will run out of dp probably
yeah thats also an issue
you need someone who can stall for longer than that
maybe hoederer can? he can heal himself
there's 4 tiles around the boss after all
fleet wolf
hmmm, I might use hoederer instead of mudrock
willow sun
issue is the lions would be wailing on him and he has 0 def
fleet wolf
if he survives one shot from steamknight boss
willow sun
nah thats not viable
fleet wolf
nah, lions no issue
willow sun
i say stick with mudrock for the steam knights
and use hoederer as the last deployment order to bait out allistair's attacks so lappland doesn't die
he can chip away too
you'll probably need to dedicate a healer to him though
fleet wolf
yeah, I have warfarin and whisperain
willow sun
no one else can heal?
fleet wolf
Ines Pozemka Blaze Angelina Warfarin Kazemaru Lutonada Steward
Puzzle Wisadel Chen Lucilla Whisperain Kirara Mudrock
Chillchuck Rosmontis Degenbrecher Tin man Hung
Exuisiai Executor alter Liskarm
Schwarz Hellagur
Archetto Hoederer
Chen alter Irene
Ray Lessing
April Mountain
Blue poison Pallas
Meteorite Qiubai
Caper Silverash
Kroos Surtr
May Ayerscarpe
Meteor Bibeak
Totter Bryophyta
Jessica Flamebringer
Flint
Highmore
Indra
La Pluma
Lappland
Odda
Savage
Dobermann
Humus
Jackie
Mousse
Dagda
these are my ops
sorry, copy paste from excel
willow sun
ah ic ic
fleet wolf
although some of them need leveling and mastering
willow sun
yeah it seems completely doable, just needs stupid lappland tech
fleet wolf
Thank you very much, I will let you know once I complete it:D
willow sun
good luck
wicked minnow
First time actually using narantuya s2. Shit kinda slaps acc
got this far. atp it's just the steamknight and if i had lappland to silence the boss but i forgot to bring her
narantuya s2 can kill the 3 guys in the center and the drones. penance is used to bait the global range mostly. ines survives 2 hits from the boss so she can gen a lot of dp at the beginning. and the other unit i used was jiyuen. everyone else is unused
lofty stag
First time actually using narantuya s2. Shit kinda slaps acc
“Narantuya s2” (shows qiubai s1)
weak gazelle
lofty stag
If you gotta market ur points, market them effectively
weak gazelle
when folks didnt believe me if tuta better skill is s2
weak gazelle
play tuta very simple
just think she only have 8 tile range (s1 guardian range)
s2 tuta have true aoe in it
wicked minnow
her s2 deals with range decently
way better than how s1 and s3 deal with range atleast
weak gazelle
her chakram to be exact
elder flume
I am afraid I will loose a lot of dps or crucial blockers idk, ofc I'll try
Kirara
actually theres enough time at start to not need Kirara ig
wicked minnow
Yeah there's more than enough time and dp using ines s1
elder flume
Kirara wouldve been great to bait tho
willow sun
hi guys ulpianus s2 is basically afk hoederer s3
both e2 60 m3 mod3 max trust pot1
2 enemies are being hit
total damage over 70 seconds
wicked minnow
i did quick calculations cuz i couldnt believe it
willow sun
ulp s2 turns bosses into elites and elites into trash
wicked minnow
willow sun
here's the DPS version (guest ft. mlynar)
wicked minnow
that's kinda cooked actually
willow sun
lol did you just average the crit damage
wicked minnow
uhhh
willow sun
i dont blame you
wicked minnow
i couldnt be asked to do seperate calcs for 1.10 and 1.40 so i just took the increase from 1.10 to 1.40 and applied it as a crit using your % for stun uptime from here #strategy message
smoky halo
i might have them now
can cuora tank steamknight offskill with any 4 star medic offskill
maxed both
willow sun
yeah
willow sun
i think he cycled skill for the big hit though
cause it does like 90% hp against off-skill cuora
that was NM
idk about CM
smoky halo
💀
prisma swift
i actually cant beat this fucking boss what
willow sun
cm doesnr work then
i mean you could just time her skill
or run arts equipment shenanigans
prisma swift
i cant get him to phase 2 before third pillar
smoky halo
she doesnt cycle
prisma swift
im thinking of just using wisadel
wicked minnow
didnt he say it worked for the h stage?
smoky halo
wat
wicked minnow
check what silvergun did for h stage steamknight then
prisma swift
i hate these pillars mechanic so fucking much u never know when the op hit the tower and when do they not
willow sun
diff stats im pretty sure
smoky halo
does disarm stop the punch?
willow sun
i hate these pillars mechanic so fucking much u never know when the op hit the t...
you can see them hitting the pillars though
limpid ore
succumb to wisadelism
willow sun
just place them adjacent to the pillar and they'll knock it down in the other direction
wicked minnow
not the little ones
prisma swift
just place them adjacent to the pillar and they'll knock it down in the other di...
is it always adjacent
willow sun
is it always adjacent
yes... last i checked the pillars can't fall diagonally
wicked minnow
big steamknight punch is based on hits done. the little ones is based on cooldown for some reason
smoky halo
oh wat ril?
smoky halo
das krazy
prisma swift
yes... last i checked the pillars can't fall diagonally
no i mean like if u put like 2 tiles behind in range it still wont hit the pillars?
elder flume
you cant hit pillar if not adjacent
smoky halo
i just pressed gg s3 on h11-4 in my main
willow sun
no i mean like if u put like 2 tiles behind in range it still wont hit the pilla...
nope, has to be in the 4 tiles adjacent to the pillars
smoky halo
🥹
prisma swift
yeah ok i still dont have enough damage
willow sun
are you doing damage before or after she gets hit by a pillar
prisma swift
after
dude who the fuck said mountain + kroos handles left lane
they died
is this actually my problem or are the things underlevelled
limpid ore
civic bear
since ur units are e1 you want additional help
but just in the form of damage or heal
lemme show a recording
scarlet mortar
you'll probs want a different borrow than blue poison
civic bear
i assume logos s3l7
fleet wolf
Kirara wouldve been great to bait tho
wdym, kirara has negative aggression, so she would not be targeted at all
wicked minnow
wdym, kirara has negative aggression, so she would not be targeted at all
how far have you gotten in the stage?
steel prairie
for people trying to help me on Sk-2
fleet wolf
how far have you gotten in the stage?
I didn't get down to it yet, I was doing dailies on ZZZ, Wuwa, HSR and Genshin
analog mirage
for people trying to help me on Sk-2
Is this a no supports situation
steel prairie
Is this a no supports situation
supports situation ???
analog mirage
Support units
elder flume
it was for early enemies coming to the left and baiting splash + attacking SK before deploying anyone else but the timer is pretty forgivable
civic bear
you just want to spam arts dmg
lofty stag
supports situation ???
As in are you open to using support units
Holup
You didn’t even use ur insta e2 yet
steel prairie
You didn’t even use ur insta e2 yet
they are all e0 tho
lofty stag
they are all e0 tho
The 5 star insta e2 ticket in ur depot
analog mirage
lofty stag
So that you can use e2 units
elder flume
it makes your Ezero into E2*
lofty stag
Support units I mean
steel prairie
The 5 star insta e2 ticket in ur depot
does it jump from e0 to e2 then ???
analog mirage
Yes only 5 stars tho
civic bear
ye its to carry new player easier
lofty stag
does it jump from e0 to e2 then ???
The 5 star would become e2 lvl1 yes
Check ur depot
steel prairie
Check ur depot
who gets it then ?
lofty stag
Hmm
spark sinew
please don't raise all your high rarities
lofty stag
Easy option is to use it on Lapp but
spark sinew
so called pro btd player
lofty stag
Who’s the pro btd player
prisma swift
i assume logos s3l7
yeah
analog mirage
who gets it then ?
Tequila if ur not lazy otherwise lappland
lofty stag
That does require clearing dossoles holiday tho
Or like 5 stages
Of dossoles holiday
steel prairie
Tequila if ur not lazy otherwise lappland
wait I dont have tequila ???
lofty stag
wait I dont have tequila ???
He’s a welfare unit unlocked by clearing 5 stages of the dossoles holiday side story
prisma swift
gg which skill’
lofty stag
S3
somber falcon
is this actually my problem or are the things underlevelled
Borrow a ray
Stall mandra a bit on mid until she flies again, then drop stone with machine before logos skill
Retrat ray after p1, she can help left side after she's up again
steel prairie
He’s a welfare unit unlocked by clearing 5 stages of the dossoles holiday side s...
oh... but I am probably no where near that
willow sun
the first 5 stages of any event are piss easy
scarlet mortar
quick ancool send the E0L1 guide
prisma swift
Borrow a ray
Stall mandra a bit on mid until she flies again, then drop stone wi...
whats a ray 😭
also my hoe is not e2
elder flume
bunny girl with long shotguniper
somber falcon
whats a ray 😭
somber falcon
also my hoe is not e2
Shouldn't matter, his only job is stalling mandra
Just bring some random defenders if you have to
It's only like 5s stall
Oh and deploy ray's summon right after using her skill
spark sinew
Who’s the pro btd player
new guy
spark sinew
not in the literal definition of the word, no
spark sinew
degen has low total damage, especially without buffers
scarlet mortar
i keep forgetting that i usually pair her with skalter
ray would one-cycle probs
somber falcon
borrowed a degen and still couldnt take down even the first form
Degen +2 pillars clear her
Stop trying to force your way through her damage reduction
somber falcon
Pillar first, then dmg
prisma swift
ray would one-cycle probs
im trying not to borrow overlevelled shits
degen e2 lvl 20
scarlet mortar
er why though
somber falcon
The shield is time based
scarlet mortar
it's both time-based and a hp trigger
scarlet mortar
learning the game
the easiertm way would probs be to just stall her out
easiertm bc it's still a lot of bodies
somber falcon
it's both time-based and a hp trigger
Both ray and degen slaps her through 40% and she's not having her shield back
somber falcon
Borrow a ray
Stall mandra a bit on mid until she flies again, then drop stone wi...
^ray
scarlet mortar
i think for some reason it's sync'd to her atk interval
sometimes she regains it immediately, sometimes she takes a good 5s or sth
somber falcon
Usual spaghet huh
spark sinew
i mean, you still won't learn much while borrowing 6* that specifically are recommended as the best answer to mandra
prisma swift
OKOK
I DID IT
FIRST PHASe
I DID IT
EVERYONES ALIVE RN
WHATS FOR SECOND PHASE
spark sinew
but also doing low rarity only run to learn her mechanics is... idk
prisma swift
ok so like if the shield regens at 40% does it also reset the timer for first shield break
im thinking
actually nvm he gets another smelly fart aura when he reaches second phase
degen is dying 😭
what now
current situation
tawdry path
logos looking mighty bonkable
scarlet mortar
reposition
opaque stirrup
huh
scarlet mortar
you can purposefully retreat ops and redeploy them early
prisma swift
is she supposed to die at p1
somber falcon
Retreat
prisma swift
i have to break 1 barrier and she regenerates one at 40%
thats 2 barriers
i have to use 2 pillars
somber falcon
You have nowhere near enough healing to even sustain anyone against her laser
scarlet mortar
i mean she isn't gonna get her S3 back in time to burst mandra
somber falcon
^
civic bear
i mean saria is there
somber falcon
E1
civic bear
considering
prisma swift
oh nevermind my left side died
civic bear
2 3* medic and cardigan can tank
prisma swift
You have nowhere near enough healing to even sustain anyone against her laser
am i supposed to do that
somber falcon
prisma swift
i thought i just dodge the laser
civic bear
here i got a vid. you can technically just tank while pillaring twice to cancel her laser so you tank least amount of laser
prisma swift
vro….
scarlet mortar
dodge it how
somber falcon
prisma swift
dodge it how
like cancel it
prisma swift
pillars
scarlet mortar
eh fair
somber falcon
Borrow a ray
Stall mandra a bit on mid until she flies again, then drop stone wi...
Humor me and do this strat
prisma swift
i dont have ray borrow
scarlet mortar
but you're out of pillars there
somber falcon
i dont have ray borrow
Give your id
prisma swift
my new issue is left side dying
scarlet mortar
also the laser's on a 10s timer now and she gains an arts aura
prisma swift
and if i give up everything to remove the boss at the last pillar