strategy

[unkempt lintel]

the one with saber won

🥹

[willow sun]

i think they win against weebs too if there's a lot of each

[willow sun]

wtf

we jinxed it

oh wait

pugs reach shields first

[unkempt lintel]

ig the armor dudes too tanky

[willow sun]

i didn't notice positioning

shields eat target prio while sabers kill

then the sarkaz guys can't do much against them

[pure orchid]

Damn maybe im the real fraud after all

[acoustic slate]

With a similar number of them, weebs eat sabers for breakfast

[pure orchid]

Can i eat you for midnight snack

[willow sun]

fr? i had the opposite experience

maybe im forgetting something

[radiant plinth]

nah he picked up the shieldddddddd

[acoustic slate]

I had 2 different same-number weebs vs sabers

Both sides slowly chipped until weebs talent and then sabers melted

[willow sun]

maybe i just got lucky with target then

and my sabers picked off weebs one by one

so the ones who were full did nothing and the ones who were weakened got melted

that was only once though so 2-1 i suppose

[elder flume]

8 weebs vs 5 sabers ended with 1 weeb winning for me iirc

[willow sun]

i mean that sounds pretty close in case of a 1:1 match

[pure orchid]

Lmao 72 wolves sounds fun

[elder flume]

90 broke my screen

[pure orchid]

Its so not close bro 😭

Who tf even managed to breed this much wolf

[glass monolith]

Ever played against star craft zerg?

[willow sun]

the minecraft player in question

[radiant plinth]

irl dogs have litters of up to 12

puppies go mad

[pure orchid]

Mortars cheating again

Tho im kinda scared of sabers

Ill let wolves cook

I lost

[devout pivot]

if you don't vote manifestation of suffering, it will manifest some suffering for you.

[pure orchid]

Nah it was mortars

Shouldve known cheaters win

[steady moth]

Why would you not vote for 5 red mortars and 4 possessed vs trash and 3 sabers

[devout pivot]

i can't get past three. I would have thought there'd be a chart or something already.

[steady moth]

It’s a little more complex than solely a chart

[willow sun]

left wins easily

[willow sun]

oh

[steady moth]

I got 9 half a dozen times and then finally 10 because I kept losing by a hair

[steady moth]

They picked right, so left won

[pure orchid]

[willow sun]

yeah i noticed

[steady moth]

Also, wtf is the point of using a cheat sheet just to win something with no reward?

If you like it enough you’ll play till 10 naturally probably and if not just skip it, it’s a timewaster

[devout pivot]

it has a reward though.

[steady moth]

1 OP and you get that 100% just from betting 10% even with full losses, yeah?

[willow sun]

my friend got to 9/10 like 3 times and genuinely crashed out because “ITS JUST ONE ORIGINITE PRIME”

[steady moth]

Then why didn’t they just stop putting in 100% and choose any other number for guaranteed 1 OP on the first run?

[willow sun]

uh i tried to tell him that but i don’t think he heard me lol

[steady moth]

Kekw

They saw you need 999 to win and didn’t realize it meant ten times less than what you start with, probably thought it meant 99999999

[willow sun]

honestly when i first saw it i went “no way, maybe it’s missing the ellipses because of font or something”

[devout pivot]

the only run worth completing is the 10/10 run.

[willow sun]

so real

[steady moth]

The april fools stuff is always easy af to get the reward

[willow sun]

i love gambling

[steady moth]

So I realized right away

[devout pivot]

the gambling is the reason it sucks.

[willow sun]

2024 wasn’t easy

it made me sad for eureka

[steady moth]

There’s very little gambling in the mode given you can see the starting positions and rosters, unless there’s some mechanic that scrambles stats or something I didn’t realize?

The match ups are complex and teams get closer to one another as you progress, but it’s otherwise relatively consistent.

[willow sun]

stats are mixed a bit but they’re blanket changes

[steady moth]

Ah

[willow sun]

not mixed per se but

like

[steady moth]

I figured maybe there was some stat fuckery

But

[willow sun]

it’s different from usual interactions

[steady moth]

It was still kind of stable

[willow sun]

-50% max hp, +50% atk is all i know

i thought a lot of units were tankier than they actually ended up being

[steady moth]

Stable enough that I went from an average of 2 wins to an average of 7 or so after many runs

[devout pivot]

it's probably why the dogs keep winning things.

[steady moth]

Yeah

That explains some of the weird dog match ups

[willow sun]

i always did the worst on the early stages ngl

i nailed 6-10 but i only got to 6 like 20% of the time

[steady moth]

I was the opposite

I kept failing the end religiously

[willow sun]

rip

i think my top scores were like

7/10
8/10
10/10

[steady moth]

I got like 3 or 4 9/10s

[willow sun]

damn

[steady moth]

I was going to give up but I wouldn’t let it break me

Like my sleeping hamster emoji?

[azure roost]

urgh

pain

no exp lmd

[elder flume]

same

[wicked minnow]

mode is easy 🥱

also no it literally is gambling in a lot of the cases

[azure roost]

pro do mine

me nub

[wicked minnow]

uhh be prepared to lose

[glass monolith]

And then 10th combat fails to accident shifting from amount of trash

[steady moth]

It’s consistent enough to dramatically beat the odds compared to if it were a coinflip, though. I routinely got 7-8 wins and it took maybe 100 tries to get a pair of 10s. Pure luck would be routinely 5 wins and 2048 tries to get a pair of 10s.

Well, I guess my sample is small so I could’ve gotten lucky consistently. Do we have full details on how it works yet, with the statistical changes and whatnot?

[azure roost]

mmm

[scarlet fulcrum]

Looks like no kernel jail this year

[wise pendant]

I might be cooked in the head

gambling on dodge, ch'en maxxing cause simp

[elder flume]

S1?

[wise pendant]

s2

you can't punch through all those mobs with s1 or s3

[willow sun]

it looks like a newborn lol

(no offense)

[wise pendant]

at least I tried but s2 mixed damage goes well into the crushers and greytails

[steady moth]

No offense taken, it’s hard to see the details on the little fellow on everything except a big screen

Couldn’t find a better sleeping hampter to make an emoji from

[snow juniper]

Am I missing something about iw-9? This is the squad I'm using, but I can barely get past phase 2.

[elder flume]

no Ethan

what is killing ur run

[narrow pendant]

U have barely any ground ops

[snow juniper]

He nukes my DPS before I can burst him down

[snow juniper]

All the little things are taken care of by virtuosa necrosis aura

[snow juniper]

Is he necessary here?

[elder flume]

not really if ur Virtuosa can kill all wisps

[scarlet fulcrum]

Idr the total dots but i think enough

[wise pendant]

think you are just lacking heals

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can also less the burden of ur medic by making 1 lane setup

[narrow pendant]

Yato2, wis it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ansel can sustain 1 lane easily

And they have silence

[elder flume]

is Penance good there
feels like her shield dies fast and the small mobs inbetween isnt enough
would prefer something healable

[scarlet fulcrum]

Mlynar quite tanky tbh

[cerulean vector]

Somehow that doesn't feel like golem solo

[scarlet fulcrum]

Or even i frame from degen

[scarlet fulcrum]

The gamblers there also quite funny

[cerulean vector]

Iirc they don't do much to shield guys. Sheesh, that one is hard, I always tend to underestimate shells & shield guys

[glass monolith]

I literally learned that shells gain stats during no move mode in this mode

[snow juniper]

Only thing I've learned so far is that the plastic ones always lose and the respawning boss bro always wins

[cerulean vector]

[willow sun]

plastic beats possessed leader

hammer loses to jesselton

i forget if they lose to wolves but i’m fairly sure they lose to enough pompeii and burn slugs

and ofc murdock golem

plastic also beats crocs

[wicked minnow]

Plastic beat crabs too when i had that

[scarlet mortar]

plastics also beat the fire slug spam

well, if they don't lose their shield

if they do the tides flip instantly

[wicked minnow]

really? The fire slugs have like negative hp. Shield or no shield a single archer could take on like 5 of them

[scarlet mortar]

depends on numbers

[glass monolith]

Fire proc builds up ignore defensive stats for enemy. It is not our Ifrit Logos etc who build up from damage done. It is like Virtuosa who just tick it by ATK stat

[scarlet mortar]

1v5 the slugs win

if other plastic crossbows arrive late you'll also get a 1v5 situation

[civic bear]

fire slugs has 25 atk

so uh

12.5 ele dmg/s

quite a while to proc

[unkempt lintel]

its fast when there morbillion of em

[tall sierra]

Fire slug main objective is to stack elemental dmg

For a big dmg burst that can almost kill most enemy

But weak vs swarm and aoe

[glass monolith]

[unkempt lintel]

28>27 so right one... surely..

[glass monolith]

I took left. Mistake has been made

[pure orchid]

Me when my damage is not immediate

[dense tiger]

Help me

[wicked minnow]

Should be right here

[civic bear]

idk man

freeze guy is gnna shred

thats tough

[elder flume]

i bet left

[wicked minnow]

this gamemode is just unadulterated sports betting so it can go either way. I still do believe in right 😔

[civic bear]

nooo broo

its a skilled game!!!

just gotta do your research frfr

says every sports gambler thinking they make money when its obviously impossible else the site would go bankrupt

[wicked minnow]

mfw the stars align and the freeze casters perma freeze the entire enemy team and they easily win

this doesnt sound lile gambling trust

i did research. I know the stats of the players bro i know how this match is gonna go

[elder flume]

wtf boss CE can shift

how come mine cant

[wicked minnow]

what wdym?

shift who exactly

[elder flume]

Amiya

[full terrace]

Good lord my alt just got a Logos #salt-mines message

Got both Ines and Logos from Orienteering 100/100 luck

[glass monolith]

Don't you love those 1 hit off

[elder flume]

she actually gets to Volcano again lmao

[limpid ore]

if timed right, you dont even need the other 2 operators

[elder flume]

not with no mod

[limpid ore]

just get more level

[elder flume]

nay

[limpid ore]

yan

[elder flume]

i still have like 8 others to level

[astral cosmos]

wow modless eyja crinj

[unkempt lintel]

i have better

unbuilt eyja

[astral cosmos]

die

[unkempt lintel]

i also have her summer skin

to make it more cringe

[astral cosmos]

die²

[unkempt lintel]

[timid ruin]

5 masked robes or 1 big ass golem?

[astral cosmos]

golem stomps

[unkempt lintel]

if its not swarm enuf, golem will triumph

[elder flume]

mod is cringe having to raise my attack by atleast 75 on a 3.7x atk modifier skill

[brisk surge]

Slug eats golem ya

[timid ruin]

45 snails or 45 axe-wielding mushroom men?

who would you rather smash?

[astral cosmos]

erm

[limpid ore]

unlock module for stats and talent ❌
unlock module for lore ✅

[timid ruin]

not unlocking module ✅

[astral cosmos]

unlock module to become purposefully poor

[glass monolith]

Stockpile 400 module blocks for no fucking reason:

[timid ruin]

which side gon win?

[limpid ore]

not unlocking module and still poor anyway ob

[unkempt lintel]

gimme ur mod blocks

[glass monolith]

Which snails

[astral cosmos]

snails win

[timid ruin]

blue snails with spike

squirting snail

[astral cosmos]

def shred ones

yeah they win

carcasses weak af

[limpid ore]

vein guardian isnt snail

[timid ruin]

they look snail enough

[astral cosmos]

dont think theyre talking about vein guardian

[timid ruin]

probably would

[glass monolith]

He isn't talking about veil, he talk IS3 one

[timid ruin]

[glass monolith]

45 vein guards would win by reflect all combats

[astral cosmos]

45 vein guardians vs 30 jesselton

[timid ruin]

magma slime and a bunch of its familiar or one edgy-heck commander and 4 bandage men?

[astral cosmos]

magma slime wins

[timid ruin]

btw is my narration funny

[astral cosmos]

your descriptions are harrowingly accurate to the point where i still recognise the enemies without you giving names or screenshots

[limpid ore]

blue snail with spike
we dont even have any blue snail

[timid ruin]

magma slime ded and his brotha avenging

anyways they still win

[astral cosmos]

def shred slugs are bluish greyish

[limpid ore]

acid slug upon ye

[astral cosmos]

yep bluish greyish

[timid ruin]

3 white-hooded red spikey villainous-looking guys or 3 masked robes?

[astral cosmos]

point stands

[full terrace]

I built this girl just so she could solo CA-5 and she does not disappoint

Skill is not even M3.

[astral cosmos]

yeah she clears

forgot what the breakpoint was

[weak gazelle]

slugs rule :ya:

[timid ruin]

who gonna win

[astral cosmos]

probably left

[weak gazelle]

left would win

[timid ruin]

i can do this all day lol

[astral cosmos]

i can't

[timid ruin]

until some team decide that they have had enough and turn the tables then

[weak gazelle]

bet everything to slug

[timid ruin]

4 jedi or 11 white robe guys?

im hoping to see something like 1000 hydrogen bombs vs 1 coughing baby

[astral cosmos]

coughing baby wins

[brisk surge]

That's slugs vs jess

[astral cosmos]

technically it's a tie bc hydrogen bombs also die

[timid ruin]

4 jedis vs 11 male elsa i mean

[brisk surge]

They live on as nuclear fallout

[astral cosmos]

male elsa is deceptively accurate

jedis may win

[astral cosmos]

the baby lives on as a legacy

[timid ruin]

oh no jedis are frozen

male elsa won

sadge

[astral cosmos]

too bad

[timid ruin]

i lost 60% of my sum

commander vs 5 masked robes

[limpid ore]

the problem with kjerag ice mage in this event, is that they will focus on one or two enemies instead of spreading their attack and keep enemies locked out

[brisk surge]

Ain't no way you think Jedi wins

[astral cosmos]

oh wait

you didn't mean the vein guardians?

[timid ruin]

ice caster

[astral cosmos]

oh

yeah ice casters win

[brisk surge]

What to do you think the Elsa means

[timid ruin]

[astral cosmos]

idk vein guardians look icy enough

[timid ruin]

commander or 5 masked robes?

[limpid ore]

jesselton?

[timid ruin]

prob commander but i wanna hear your thoughts

[astral cosmos]

for once jesse wins i think

[limpid ore]

[brisk surge]

Jess wins

[timid ruin]

jess won once

just recently

[astral cosmos]

he explodes to slugs

[timid ruin]

oh wait he didnt

he surrendered (forcefully) to da great magma cube

[brisk surge]

[astral cosmos]

the spire casters killed him?

[timid ruin]

yo wtf why did masked robes win

[limpid ore]

how he is even losing against spire caster

[timid ruin]

oh wait

he transform

[limpid ore]

[brisk surge]

[limpid ore]

he has 2 phase

[brisk surge]

Peak comedy

[timid ruin]

like some kind of anime protagonist, sure

[brisk surge]

Honestly

[timid ruin]

he recalled his past memories and his friendship power

to revive and turn da table

[astral cosmos]

left side explodes methinks

[leaden sierra]

Like that one time Saria punched him on the face. Or when he was bullied in prison.

[timid ruin]

3 magma slugs vs 9 bandage guys and 7 cool-looking sci-fi glasses boxer

[astral cosmos]

idt pompeii win this, do they?

[brisk surge]

Pompeii is fraud

[timid ruin]

so am i but we can ignore that

[limpid ore]

brawlers are good

[timid ruin]

[astral cosmos]

brawlers do jackshit against colossi 💤

[leaden sierra]

Sci-fi boxers can melt 2 pompei, but 3... 3 is a lot.

[brisk surge]

Ok colossi gets shit on by slugs 🚬

[full terrace]

I bet on Golems before, 2 of them lost to crocs

[astral cosmos]

slugs implode to any form of aoe 😴

[timid ruin]

so which side now

[brisk surge]

I wanna say right

[timid ruin]

slug supremacy??

[astral cosmos]

methinks right

[timid ruin]

its fine imma invest little in this

[brisk surge]

I think Pompeii fraud

[timid ruin]

yeah pompeii smoked dust

they shreaded into magma cream

[quartz jetty]

left side wins or golem soloes them?

[timid ruin]

i think right

[limpid ore]

golem carry

jesselton dead weight

[astral cosmos]

jesselton meatshield

[brisk surge]

Right I think

[maiden hound]

yeah right

[timid ruin]

9 bandage 3 axe or 15 samurai

[full terrace]

Who the hell is bandage

[brisk surge]

Samurai as in avengers?

[limpid ore]

weeb men

[brisk surge]

Shacked I think

[leaden sierra]

Probably prison boxer?

[limpid ore]

prison brawler

[timid ruin]

flamelet and soft steel

[astral cosmos]

bandage is pugilist

[quartz jetty]

left side won...

[timid ruin]

chained-up pugilist

[brisk surge]

[full terrace]

Avenger then, right

[quartz jetty]

[brisk surge]

Golem fraud

[astral cosmos]

jesselton meatshield worked

[brisk surge]

I think right side

[timid ruin]

flamelet and softsteel is called avenger?

[leaden sierra]

The power of numbers.

[brisk surge]

Avengers appeared in cc 3 times surely they win

[full terrace]

😏

[timid ruin]

yea they did win

probably would tho

smh im learning maxxers' way of speaking too much

[full terrace]

My mom appeared in my dream, surely right side win

[brisk surge]

Your mom wins 100%

[brisk surge]

How am I the influence

[timid ruin]

3 white hood red mask artilerist and 4 huge steel rods guy or 9 red beard 12 barrier gun-sword?

[timid ruin]

cuz u would

[brisk surge]

This one is

[timid ruin]

[brisk surge]

Idk

Do Red beard hell through this

Heal

[timid ruin]

originium limbs

steel rod is punisher

[acoustic slate]

Is bro allergic to screen shots

[leaden sierra]

Guessing who's who is part of the challenge

[timid ruin]

yes i think it would be funnier this way

[acoustic slate]

[timid ruin]

you guess whos in there with my piece of desciption

[brisk surge]

its part of the fun

but i think you die here

[timid ruin]

yea imma act on impulse

[brisk surge]

i want to say right but ye

[timid ruin]

should i do 9 red beard or 3 artillery

[brisk surge]

its rng gamba

tbh

[timid ruin]

but red beard rizz-maxing so

gonna go with red beard

[dry flame]

any tips on this map ?

[timid ruin]

wtf all in button

[brisk surge]

wtf losing with wis logs?

[leaden sierra]

is logos on S3

[dry flame]

logo e1

[brisk surge]

gg

[timid ruin]

red beard rizzed up all the enemies and won yay

[brisk surge]

no damage

rizzler

[dry flame]

how to avoid the one shot ?

[timid ruin]

3 artilerist and 11 riots or 15 barriers + 15 male elsa?

[brisk surge]

theres a one shot?

[timid ruin]

i would go with artillerist bc 11 riots is too much for the freezing of elsa

[brisk surge]

go ahead

[timid ruin]

all in?

[leaden sierra]

So basically he can teleport behind your ops like a certain clown. And has arts damage with green proc. The proc is what usually one shots.

[brisk surge]

but i think shields explode to any arts damage

[dry flame]

so how to avoid it ?

[unkempt lintel]

i wish i am that golem

[timid ruin]

bro got swarmed by a bunch of horny hungry dawgs

[brisk surge]

as in like you love being so powerful to 1v30 or you love being dogged on

[timid ruin]

[unkempt lintel]

hmm... are the dogs tanky enuf?

[limpid ore]

dogs

[brisk surge]

dog wins cuz of rng

[timid ruin]

they got that dawg in them

so probably dogs

[maiden hound]

they gonna zerg rush anyways

[brisk surge]

slugs aint coordinated enough

[timid ruin]

also quantity

[unkempt lintel]

ok holy shi-- the slugs do puny dmg

[acoustic slate]

Yes

Surrounded by dogs

[full terrace]

😂

[brisk surge]

i think uh

[leaden sierra]

these days the best strat is to not block him and instead use CC+your DPS of choice.
Ascalon S2, Suzu S3, Saria S3, so on, take your pick. You slow him near a specific tile and just burst DPS before he can break any boxes.

[full terrace]

Maybe the doggoes are female

[brisk surge]

ya

[timid ruin]

wtf elsa got 2-shotted by artilerists

[full terrace]

Archer > Mage in RPG 😏

[dry flame]

but there a roadblock in the circle

[timid ruin]

i just did a dumb thing

I all in the snails

and samurai

vs commander

omg commander shredding the snails

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo i lost it all

[limpid ore]

jesselton is... jailer

[timid ruin]

i hate jess

[scarlet mortar]

yh so you kill him before that

[maiden hound]

:noway:

[limpid ore]

kill him before he destroys the roadblock

[scarlet mortar]

usually people camp at top left

[timid ruin]

ok imma go do the event on my own

thanks for staying with me guys, have a nice day

[wicked minnow]

You can still just block and kill phantom. He's not particularly hard anyway

[limpid ore]

he is susceptible to crowd control

[dry flame]

is the teleport/nuke have limit use ?

[full terrace]

Shoot him at his spawn tile

[leaden sierra]

In your case I guess you could use a W+Saria combo on the top

[dry flame]

so i j ust spam so he run out of use

[scarlet mortar]

no but it has a cd

[dry flame]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/duy6800

what i can use beside logos / wis

[astral cosmos]

nomnom what the fuck

[scarlet mortar]

the aoe's separate from the tp

the tp spawns a second mf who can also aoe though

[limpid ore]

i remember using typhon s2, she killed him before he move

-# e2 max, mod3, s2m3

[unkempt lintel]

peak showdown

[wicked minnow]

I use tequilla coldshot and they kill phantom together through the power of friendship

[unkempt lintel]

gaddamit faking useless warden

[limpid ore]

the power of alcohol beverage

[leaden sierra]

you're right, using multiple blockers is also an option. His tp CD is decently long.

[wicked minnow]

damn i never thought of that

[unkempt lintel]

ez left yeah

mf even start shooting when i still need to vote

[elder flume]

Jesselton moment

[minor karma]

Right side?

[leaden sierra]

hell yeah!

[elder flume]

im feeling left

[leaden sierra]

avenger carry. I trust

[timid ruin]

Im back

I manage to get some wins on my own

[timid ruin]

Which side tho

[vernal lion]

right

[minor karma]

They won

[timid ruin]

Fraud

[vernal lion]

bruh

[leaden sierra]

look, the dogs are surprisingly useless, but the casters will get the job done while archers tank. The problem is there's only 5. Basically, right didn't have enough DPS.

[timid ruin]

[vernal lion]

I though the dog could kill half of the left

[timid ruin]

Its fine imma redo

[leaden sierra]

left claps since archers tank.

[vernal lion]

the easiest gamble of treak 10 fr

[brisk surge]

did right win

[crisp bolt]

right won

[brisk surge]

[vernal lion]

right lost tho

[timid ruin]

Left kick ass

Right ate crap

[crisp bolt]

I can actually see a case where right wins this

[brisk surge]

yeah i can see it too

[leaden sierra]

don't bet on Jessy. Crocos will body him

[vernal lion]

red weep 💪

[crisp bolt]

nothing to do with jesselton, if the dogs overwhelm enough, the other enemies will delete themselves on reflect golem

[full terrace]

Last time I bet on swordies vs Golem, Golem punched them all to death

Iirc it was 1 vs 9

Tf is wrong with this game

[leaden sierra]

?? Dogs get erased in the first 10 seconds. Those durin boxers don't joke around.

[crisp bolt]

they do sometimes when it's 4:1

had it happen

[brisk surge]

im the 1

im the 1

[crisp bolt]

they forgor to dodge

[vernal lion]

red weep 🚮

[brisk surge]

avengers so noob

[full terrace]

Why bet against Shielders tho

[brisk surge]

shielders kinda noob sometimes too

[full terrace]

They win most of the time. Only some specific scenarios do they lose

[brisk surge]

slugs

[full terrace]

If they are coordinated sure

[vernal lion]

bonus: when 50:50 chance is real, it's mattered luck 💀 💀

[crisp bolt]

not even close

[leaden sierra]

the one I really hate is those casters vs fire slugs. They can't one-shot the slugs so it always ends with 1 slug with 1 HP, but sometimes they win. Extreme RNG.

[glass monolith]

Difference in random shifting

[vernal lion]

ngl it sometimes does RNG af

[crisp bolt]

this happened to me earlier

bet on pompeii and pompeii killed the last enemy. But because they died a half second before the kill I lost

[dapper hedge]

[brisk surge]

more optimized

why am i playing this again

[narrow pendant]

Cuz dum

[brisk surge]

aint no way you calling me dum

[crisp bolt]

rat

[brisk surge]

rat

[pure orchid]

Holy fuck rare jess w

I hate how close that was

[full terrace]

I bet on dps 😂

Shielders are fraud when they meet the possessed dudes

[narrow pendant]

Left wins this iirc or was that another matchup

Idk, people taking this too seriously

[full terrace]

Right won

[azure roost]

i remember i did trio on it too using civi s3, degen s3 and whatever defender

[brisk surge]

blocking is 👎

[azure roost]

smhsmsmh

[full terrace]

It's called enjoying the game, poor you incapable of doing that.

[azure roost]

i enjoy mining at 1-7

[narrow pendant]

Yeah

[full terrace]

Freaking upload took me 10 mins 😂

[lofty glade]

Thinking very hard on which might win

[full terrace]

Oof thats a tough one

I usually bet on the frontline in this case

So you got 5x avengers vs 11 brawlers

And 9 Sarkaz fodders

[scarlet mortar]

i'd bet on boxers

[full terrace]

I'd take right

Yeh

[weak gazelle]

i bet on right win

[lofty glade]

Yee, it was the right. All in and lost.

[glass monolith]

Right slugs delete left

[full terrace]

When in doubt, bet the frontlines

[lofty glade]

I would if I didn't lose to the number game time and time again.

Ah well. Time to go investing again.

[full terrace]

Pro tip: when you are unsure about units' strength, look at their class and bet on the classic RPG classes rock-paper-scissor

[lofty glade]

And as soon as I said that, I lost 7 Red Blades to 3 of the enraged possessed

[full terrace]

Melee beats Archers, Archers beat Mages, and Mages beat Melee

[narrow pendant]

When in doubt, always go right

[lofty glade]

Fair. I'll see what this current run looks like.

[full terrace]

For example, this

[lofty glade]

Still bet on casters?

[full terrace]

If you lost blame it on the game

[lofty glade]

Ah yes. Cannot's investment class clearly paid dividend.

Also, yes, I lost.

[full terrace]

RIPieces

[weak gazelle]

that caster is shit against those jedi

if 1-2 jedi, caster would win

[lofty glade]

Yee, surprisingly, the ice casters don't provide that much arts damage

[dapper hedge]

Jedi has p good stats

[hazy sinew]

unsurprisingly it's to balance the freeze mechanic

and Jedi is balanced around being folded by any form of shifting

[lofty glade]

Fair, fair.

Sniper's my bet.

[full terrace]

Snipers win yes

Shields last long enough

The possessed enemies are losing HP per sec

[weak gazelle]

yeah that one easy to tell

[lofty glade]

My main problem is trying to figure out whether the gimmicks are gonna hold up against other units

[full terrace]

Thats basically what this event demands from you

Knowledge check 😏

[lofty glade]

Knowledge is one thing, knowing whether that gimmick would beat another is one other thing.

Jesselton's my guess.

With the high Def for phase 2

[scarlet mortar]

that's what we mean by knowledge check

[acoustic slate]

knowledge is one thing, knowing is another

[scarlet mortar]

just remember enemy stats

[lofty glade]

Ok, ya, I misread that, my bad.

[pure orchid]

Perhaps what u mean is pragmatic wisdom

applying said knowledge on practical scenarios

[acoustic slate]

Axe dudes suck without stacks

[pure orchid]

but its hella easier to just say knowledge

[lofty glade]

Ok, now the more challenging one.

[full terrace]

Didnt axe dudes get boosted when his friends get killed? Or I confuse it with another enemy?

[scarlet mortar]

yh

[lofty glade]

Axe does get boosted if their own friends gets killed, up to a stack of 10

[scarlet mortar]

stage only has 4 enemies so it's basically nothing

[glass monolith]

Usually their buff don't change most battle outcomes

[scarlet mortar]

also they're gonna rush in and die anw

[lofty glade]

If friendly collapsal or dogs are on the field, then it'd help.

The ten stack is shared across all axes.

[lofty glade]

Btw, will like some opinions.

[scarlet mortar]

it's not

but they're all fielded when dogs die so they all get 10 stacks

[full terrace]

Idk I'd take left. Plastics are fraud 😏

[lofty glade]

It's not? Could've sworn I saw the buff applied to all of the axes when they're on the field.

[civic bear]

They each count ded teammates

[scarlet mortar]

well yh that's bc all of them can count the same dog

[acoustic slate]

It functionally the same

[scarlet mortar]

in a normal stage if one of them left the red box later they wouldn't get buffed

[lofty glade]

I mean, ya, if they're on the field while the dog died, it applies to them all.

Not like, if they haven't been deployed

[scarlet mortar]

what that means is that each of them has an individual counter, they just don't care whether a dog's counted by another axe

[full terrace]

Btw dogs are good because they move fast and hit hard typical glass cannons, and usually they have the numbers. Collapsal runners are not tho, they move fast they die fast they got no damage

100% fraud

[scarlet mortar]

collapsals are good bc they can rush into burn slugs 💪

[lofty glade]

Christ, nearly lost a bet. 2 slugs against a near dead axe.

[scarlet mortar]

(ignore the fact that dogs also do that)

[lofty glade]

Opinion here?

Got a feeling on right

[weak gazelle]

this one left would win

[acoustic slate]

I think right

[full terrace]

Oof

[glass monolith]

I don't think

[pure orchid]

im gonna say left just so it equals out 2-2

[full terrace]

I would bet on slugs

[scarlet mortar]

left barely wins

damn it's still tied

chat sucks

[full terrace]

Slugs got the pugilists covering them

[pure orchid]

lmao yall

[dapper hedge]

Ill bet on the boxers

[weak gazelle]

haha
idr, the caster on left side beside the ice caster
what they do

[full terrace]

Left got no covers

I'd take right

[lofty glade]

Right won.

[full terrace]

See

[glass monolith]

Common arkhy L

[dapper hedge]

Boxers has p good res iirc

[full terrace]

When in doubt, bet on your fontlines

[lofty glade]

And I all in and lost to axes. FML.

14 collapsal and 6 axes iirc against a collusus, sarkaz and jedi

[full terrace]

Collapsals are fraud

[lofty glade]

Oh well, back to borrowing Cannot money.

[full terrace]

Sarkaz also fraud uh

[lofty glade]

Mhm. What got me this time was assuming I had enough on the right team to beat the axe team.

Biggest scam I've seen this far.

I've seen those slugs melt Jedi with elemental damage before.

[acoustic slate]

Yeah easy left

[weak gazelle]

hmm?
yeah but melee its colapsal, jedi would one shot them

[acoustic slate]

23 slugs vs 7 hurt Jedi

Ranged dps check

[weak gazelle]

so slug have very short time to kill jedis :ya:

[pure orchid]

collapsal stall long enough i believe

[full terrace]

This is for all those people who argued that Golems can be perma frozen/stunlocked with 3~4 stunning/freezing units. No it cannot, even 1 vs 11 Casters you can see Golem still punched 3 of them to death, let alone 1 vs 3~4.

You need to cc the Golem during its attacking animation for it to matter, and that attack animation is pretty fast.

[scarlet mortar]

it's more that the casters' aspd is ass and they need three whole attacks to make it

[full terrace]

And the ch14 stun dudes even slower

[scarlet mortar]

and they're usually sync'd

[full terrace]

And someone argued they can stunlock Golem

[scarlet mortar]

so gl making it happen

[full terrace]

I found that very silly

#strategy message #strategy message

[acoustic slate]

Youre arguing against rng

[elder flume]

if only we could control our side like TABS

[acoustic slate]

Golem vs 9 of almost any enemy is an easy w for golem

But with just a few freezes or stuns it can tip the balance as you showed

[full terrace]

What are TABS? Are those edible

[acoustic slate]

If the ch13 enemies are synced up then they won’t do shit, if the skills are staggered then golem eats shit

[lofty stag]

Totally accurate battle simulator

[lofty glade]

Can confirm. Lost a bet once because of this.

Left or right?

[weak gazelle]

have golem is basically a free win :ya:
try betting on 50 dog vs 1 golem before
and golem survive with 1% hp

[full terrace]

Ofc right

[elder flume]

so 51 dogs would win

[full terrace]

Crabs = Plastics

[weak gazelle]

uhh no
i think 50 can kill it

[scarlet mortar]

🔥✍️

[lofty glade]

Ya, I underestimated the blood of the sanguinarch.

[strong rover]

Help pls

[lofty glade]

Looks like a left, I think.

[weak gazelle]

because not entirely 50 dog hit golem at the same time

[lofty glade]

My own trouble

[strong rover]

Right side is an easy pick

[full terrace]

Right wins

Mortars demolish everything

Avengers cover

[lofty glade]

Yep. That works

[lofty glade]

@full terrace your opinion?

[strong rover]

Right side won

[full terrace]

Idk I would take right, right has cover. Jess phase 1 dies to mortars phase 2 dies to casters. But the Pompeiis might kill the frontline fast

[lofty glade]

Very sorry about that.

[strong rover]

It's the 7th time I lost at 9th bro

[full terrace]

Problem with left is that they didnt get covers

[strong rover]

I'm gonna geek out

[full terrace]

When it doubt, bet on your frontlines

[weak gazelle]

bet at 10% only
it guarantee win if that is what make you worry

[scarlet mortar]

right has mortars they're gonna decimate left anw

pompeii fraudcheck real

[weak gazelle]

pompeii the fraud

[full terrace]

Pompeii proven fraud since ancient times

[full terrace]

Left is very strong

[lofty glade]

Yee, same thought

[full terrace]

Those brawlers with their dodge worth Shielders 😂

[lofty glade]

This looking like a left.

[weak gazelle]

enough fodder to make the axe dudes angry so yeah left

[full terrace]

Oof thats a very tough one

[lofty glade]

And ya, that left did win

[full terrace]

Possessed hit hard, run fast, and tough

They are the Wisadel of this event

[lofty glade]

Ya, but volcano slugs do deal high elemental damage

[full terrace]

But burn will kill them easily

[elder flume]

They have just enough atk to oneshot dodge brawlers

[full terrace]

Yeah but slugs proc burn dmg insta kill em

Thats a very tough one but I'd prob pick left

[lofty glade]

Alright.

[weak gazelle]

i bet right win :ya:

[brisk surge]

i want to bet left

i believe in slugs

[full terrace]

The slugs got the crocs covering them

I bet left for that reason only

[lofty glade]

I have the results, but I'm gonna let you guys discuss a bit.

[brisk surge]

no go ahead

i believe in the slugs

i all in slugs all the time

[full terrace]

Same yeah

[weak gazelle]

it just axe dudes not front enough so yeah

[elder flume]

Jesse phase 2 is pretty annoying if your only damage is phys

[full terrace]

The possessed run fast

[elder flume]

If caster lives Jesse dies

[lofty glade]

Ya, a bit of a hiccup, but slugs won.

[brisk surge]

nope slugs mog jess

[lofty glade]

Thanks guys.

[brisk surge]

easy

easiest bet of my life

[full terrace]

So crocs vs possessed take place first

With slugs proc burns behind the crocs

Then followed by crocs + slugs vs knights

[lofty glade]

Slugs did not, in fact, burn the possessed fast enough, but there were enough left over that it worked out.

[brisk surge]

7000 whopping damage from burn

so good

i love slugs

[lofty glade]

Jesselton's phase 2 is very weak to elemental, surprisingly.

[full terrace]

Phase 2 needs Arts yep

[lofty glade]

Right, thanks for the help. I need to go sleep now, I've work tomorrow.

[brisk surge]

goob night

[weak gazelle]

me ignore jess
he shit against more than 3 enemy he face

[brisk surge]

i saw 3 or 4 jedis mog jess

ya

[lofty glade]

Fucking like twenty over runs today to just clear it today and fuck knows how many to win ten wins in a row.

[brisk surge]

if you bet 10% you can clear it easy

10/10 is yeah a bit tough

[full terrace]

#strategy message 😏

[strong rover]

Rahhhhh help

[full terrace]

Oof thats difficult

[strong rover]

nvm it's right

🥹

ion know what to choose

[fickle zephyr]

pompeii op

[weak gazelle]

only mortar dude that dangerous for left

so i bet left :ya:

[mortal finch]

need help, rat king just soloed my entire squad 4 times

[strong rover]

RAHHHHH 3HRS NONSTOP AND THE RIGHT SIDE WONNN

[somber falcon]

just space them out
they should be able to facetank him just fine anyways though

also warf s1

s2 only for buffing

[mortal finch]

they dont

[weak gazelle]

ohh the durin dodge guy won the rng

[mortal finch]

ptilop heal too weak to survive the tornado

[somber falcon]

what

rat king is 2020 enemy

[fickle zephyr]

zuo le can probably block him indefinitely

[mortal finch]

need zuo for blocking right side

[civic bear]

kill it earlier

kill the boss

[somber falcon]

you don't need that

everything goes left anyways

[mortal finch]

cant, phys shield too strong, if i fokus res on him logos cant hold his lane alone

[civic bear]

well if you let it be the boss be then bait with a low hp unit somewhere alone but within heal range so it doesnt debuff ur units

[fickle zephyr]

that looks like s1, do you have anyone with s3? maybe that could help burst

[civic bear]

the boss has increased damage when they go 50% hp so you want to kill it quick after it reach that

[somber falcon]

what kinda wacky ass strat are you using

[mortal finch]

logos s3? i use him for lane holding, downtime too long

[scarlet mortar]

40 SP is too long...

naw we're cooked

[mortal finch]

the enemy appear much sooner

[scarlet mortar]

anw logos should solo rat king

[civic bear]

zuole +2 pretty much handles every mob on the left. you dont need that much op to handle full left side

[scarlet mortar]

so if you have any other laneholders consider repositioning

[civic bear]

as long as you bait the drone caller

[weak gazelle]

no its ~33s (ptilo there)

:ya:

[mortal finch]

marcile and mudrock alone cant solo left side

[fickle zephyr]

also get another dps or bait/block instead of elysium

[scarlet mortar]

is marcille on S2

[mortal finch]

yep

[scarlet mortar]

mud isn't much for dps, so marcille + someone

[fickle zephyr]

what comes out right side

the ranged dudes?

[acoustic slate]

If the boss is killing you then your biggest problem is the boss

If mobs are not killing you, then laneholding is not your biggest problem.

Borrow accordingly ☕

[mortal finch]

drunkard

[fickle zephyr]

does mudrock solo those i cant remember how much atk they have

[mortal finch]

if i pick lanehold boss is problem
if i pick boss lanehold is problem

[civic bear]

mudrock on left left

the middle lane is the main pressure

you can "ignore" the bulldozer because they spin around forever

[scarlet mortar]

mud solos three fanatics but they arrive faster than she can kill them

[civic bear]

you should be able to kill them little by little

[mortal finch]

whats the left circle for?

[civic bear]

possible block placement

left side are only drone callers

[acoustic slate]

Yes but looks like you have more options to deal with the mobs

[civic bear]

putting mudrock there baits all the drone+mortar so its quite efficient

[mortal finch]

not enough aoe, marcille too weak

[mortal finch]

noted will do that

[civic bear]

you dont really need "aoe" but rather enough burst damage to kill the main threat the guy that look militaristic

[acoustic slate]

🤨

[scarlet mortar]

marcille ela zuo click not having enough dps

uhhhh

[acoustic slate]

You don’t have anyone else on your roster that can help?

[leaden sierra]

I finally got 10 in a row

[mortal finch]

nope

thats pretty much all my build ops

[scarlet mortar]

0/10...

[acoustic slate]

🚬

[civic bear]

does this not clear

medic heals marcille wherever u like

zuole dont need heal

so u just spam zl s2

dont need to block bulldozer

when ela marcille should kill them

can place logos closer to the main setup early on

then just move it before it boss spawn

then you can move him back

[leaden sierra]

Which way is logos facing? He doesn't need heals?

[civic bear]

bottom

its just to kill the boss

[mortal finch]

ill try, thanks

[leaden sierra]

ah alright, so he's not there all the time. Yeah that looks fine

[civic bear]

s= saria e = ela m=mud

let the thing that cost dp to activate to increase deploy limit get destroyed after you activate them

the hp lost doesnt matter

[mortal finch]

yeah ik, already tried this stage 4 times

[civic bear]

the drone tanker gnna be mudrock and zl basicly

mud on s2 just spins forever

zl you can just spam s2 whenever he faces threats

[mortal finch]

theres another problem

all my friend use logos s1

[civic bear]

technically works

would want to place him earlier ig

but logos s1 doesnt take forever anyway

[leaden sierra]

S3 can one cycle tho.

[weak gazelle]

can borrow mine if you want logos s3

[civic bear]

ye getting s3 would be better

[mortal finch]

please, thanks you

[civic bear]

also

check ur op

who has lowest hp

know beforehand

[weak gazelle]

arkhy#4845

[mortal finch]

the medic robot

[civic bear]

oh then when the boss spawn

[weak gazelle]

let me know if you already add

[civic bear]

put medic robot somehere that isnt nearby anyone

probably middle bottom

[mortal finch]

done

[mortal finch]

will do

[civic bear]

and highest hp

should be mudrock right

that is not a problem

either mud or zuole

dont remember

but not an issue still

[scarlet mortar]

:ceo

[mortal finch]

the highest hp do that cross atk thing right?

[civic bear]

ye

[mortal finch]

wont it be problem for marcille if it target zuo?

[weak gazelle]

ok added
he is up

[civic bear]

it would yes

[mortal finch]

oh wait i can 1 cycle this guy, ill just place hoshi somewhere

[civic bear]

yeah just place

someone with high hp

[mortal finch]

thanks

[civic bear]

idk how many hp he got

id assume 4k

[mortal finch]

also thanks you too ancool

[civic bear]

hoshi doesnt reach 4k tho

just move zuole 1 tile up then

surely its fine if ela get hit by drone

🧩

[brisk surge]

just a side note if logos is put there early he just dies

[civic bear]

its for boss

tho you could place a medic if you want to keep him there throughout

fanatics are fairly easy to outheal

[brisk surge]

pusher so you kick them off the cliff

[hollow wagon]

who wins

[acoustic slate]

Dogs + golem

Looks like a win to me

Just hope you don’t have like 20 slugs soloing the golem lol

[civic bear]

never listen to space

💀

[full terrace]

Right wins 😂

I had 4x possessed holding 20+ dogs before

[scarlet mortar]

good minigame

[full terrace]

Say dogs and possessed destroy each other, and crocs punch through collapsals, it's slugs + crocs vs Golem

I'd take right 🤣

[acoustic slate]

I was right though, bro obviously didn’t listen when I said to make sure not to leave the golem against the slugs

[glass monolith]

I HAD ONE (1) FUCKING DEF DOWN SLIME LEAVE ALIVE AS WINNER AT ENDIN OF THAT SHIT MATCH UP

[full terrace]

I got the scenario again and decided to record it

[vernal delta]

wow, didnt even have time to proc elemental

[acoustic slate]

What are you showing me

[full terrace]

Yeah I said this before, I think it's because the slugs are hitting the shields

[acoustic slate]

I didnt argue that slugs beat crabs

It’s just not bc of the skill

[full terrace]

The slug does physical damage? I think It might be because slugs are doing physical damage, and the elemental damage is proc based on % of damage done by the slugs, just like Logos

[elder flume]

doing IS and realized i can draft Amiya thru medic now

[full terrace]

Then because of the shields, they didnt deal that much elemental damage to proc the burn

Is what I'm thinking

[scarlet mortar]

no the slugs just don't do much burn damage individually

if they don't target the same mob they're pretty inefficient at proc'ing burn

[full terrace]

Also Guard Voucher

[acoustic slate]

How broken is wiki…

[full terrace]

Welp it's the range, attack speed, and HP pool then. Whatever the reason is, I know it's Crabs > Slugs coz I got this scenario like 3 times already

[lone sentinel]

want to say right, but i've been betrayed by my first impressions enough to be unsure.

[scarlet mortar]

left

boxers decimate the slugs, the sabers will be relatively chill

[lone sentinel]

sweet

[glass monolith]

Fu-

This close to 0/10

[lone sentinel]

last one.

[languid thistle]

vec-04 is such a bullshit stage

how do you even do it without a ceobe

[vernal delta]

I killed the VTE before the big guy picks it up

[elder flume]

Logos moment

[languid thistle]

how is that physically possible

you have like 8 DP by the time he gets to it

[vernal delta]

i used Yato alter s2

[glass monolith]

Remember bro takes loop around first. Then execute all dumb shit in the book

Indigo, Ethan, Wisadel, Manticore, Ascalon.
Call it a day

That shit is not moving

Also don't SP-7 buff just make everything Shaw stallable to infinity

[languid thistle]

ceobe with 2 decel binders couldn't kill big boy in time wtf

[glass monolith]

Encounter counter to casters - BIG F- HEALTHPOOL

[brisk surge]

something something shitty ops