strategy

[full terrace]

Saved the last 4 Metal Crabs, thanks for your input. Also removed Mlynar for extra Trust farm slot, his dps sucks.

No freakin Trust farm slot 😐

[scarlet mortar]

the bili clear's 6op

[celest bluff]

Anus

[scarlet mortar]

what does yostar mean by this

[tired eagle]

Yea bilbli clear's insane

[full terrace]

Hmm

Do I save 1 min at the cost of 3 extra slots

[tired eagle]

Gnosis works really great here dogo's freezable

[full terrace]

I dont wanna add more ops to the setup, unless you meant switching Ela to Gnosis, which I dont think will make that big of a difference

I'm intrigued by the hole setup, that 1 min save is sweet

But man

The slots demand

[civic bear]

you could bring 1 op

and do same speed as you have rn

kaltsit tho

thatd be more slots efficient

[full terrace]

Kaltsit is strong enough to kill Ceobe at her spawn? And the last 4 Metal Crabs

Do you have a link for this

[civic bear]

yes

well not the 4 metal crabs

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV17r421T7Gu

can just add 2nd op if you want the two crabs ded

this is when ceobe gone

so flower+2crabs+that one mobs on the right

[full terrace]

I'd have to compare the clear time. The hole setup requires at least 6 ops for 40ish secs clear. What I have right now is around 1:40ish with 3 ops, which means, 1 slot worth around 20 secs. If the Kaltsit clear time is around 2 mins, I saved 20 secs/1 slot so I'll take that.

Btw I cant open bili links

[civic bear]

6 ops is 70s

could just math it

[odd forge]

I just nuke them all, I'm too lazy

[full terrace]

70 secs on auto or the playtime included? I couldnt open the bili links

I just assumed it has the same clear time as Sciel's

[tired eagle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/1j8jrka/boss/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[tired eagle]

reddit link works?

[full terrace]

Anyway I will try out that Kaltsit clear and compare later

[full terrace]

Yah reddit works

[tired eagle]

nice try the vid above

[civic bear]

6 ops 70s is 6x21 trust every 70s+transition
ur 3 ops is 120s (thats the time for that small crab cutoff) so 189 trust every 120s+transition
1 ops is 138s so 231 trust every 138s+transition

[full terrace]

Thanks man I appreciate this

[tired eagle]

[civic bear]

assuming transition ranged from 0 to 10 seconds

6 op 70s > 1 op 138s>3 ops 120s

but you could 2 ops 120s with wisadel logos

[full terrace]

Ah nice Kaltsit setup seems really good

[civic bear]

thatd make it more efficient than kaltsit

so if you could duo thats better

doesnt have to be wisadel logos

but as long as duo 120s

[full terrace]

Idk about Wis+Logos only, the event is draining everyone's HP

Kaltsit plus Wis could be optimal, I think

And Wis can finish off the last 2 Crabs as well

Thanks for your Kaltsit input btw

I'll try it myself later

[civic bear]

[void terrace]

Question

Which skill should be prioritized for marcille?

Skill 3 looks like the niche skill but s2 looks nice as well

[maiden hound]

s2 and that's it

[void terrace]

Damn

[odd forge]

nuke it

[sly drift]

Would M3S3 as well just for full buff-debuff boss killing montage

Need better module to be honest.

[elder flume]

Meanwhile im thinking S3L1 vs SL4 vs M3 if i want longest stun without killing too much

[celest bluff]

Damn I need to stop using wisadel

[glass monolith]

I need clownslayer in my squad

[jovial nest]

Courier's paradox was pretty fun

[sly drift]

Eunectes paradox is epic lol.

The crocs witnessing their queen soloing elites.

[wicked minnow]

wait that's dope as hell

[weak gazelle]

yeah that one paradox is nice to play

that is how showcase should be

[brittle mesa]

How you all handle third mission in cross-over event?

[tired eagle]

by killin every thing in sight

[brittle mesa]

I mean, what was your strategy for getting that done?

[lofty sundial]

what's the third mission

I don't really paid attention to it, accidentally cleared it and just claming all

[tired eagle]

Lol same

[tired eagle]

Wisadel

[lofty sundial]

@brittle mesa

maybe ss it

[tired eagle]

I think i just wis left side of pot
And texas alt every now and then

[torpid socket]

Or just logos s1

[weak gazelle]

that map is slug fest

in mid lane

[torpid socket]

Remember to texalt the op eating flower

[lofty sundial]

almond gone, probably cleared it already

[halcyon adder]

Anyways any fast way to clear dt8??

[full terrace]

People with developed account dont really need strategy for non-boss stages, some people can even breeze through boss stages like its nothing. The answer you will get for your question when you ask this way, is more or less the basics of tower defense games like killing stuff before they get close etc, which I assume is not what you are looking for? With this assumption, I take it that the "strategy" you are looking for is a way(s) to get through the stage with limited resources you have, which we call the low-end clears here in the community. If my assumption is correct, you can check the guides from this channel for reference. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lY9Xa9jmbe8

[full terrace]

Depends on your definition of fast. The fastest clear I know so far is 40ish secs by Sciel, achieved by putting the boss in a hole.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Very lenient event tbh

[full terrace]

I agree

[lapis hornet]

confusing af

why we even killing mobs since apparently they can go into blue box no problem

[lofty sundial]

some slug different from the other

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1tJ4DejEYT this is the fastest one

[full terrace]

My guess is that the guy is looking for an efficient clear time (like I did) while using as fewer ops as possible for the purpose of farming Trust and materials.

Unless he is just trying to make speedrun record

[scarlet fulcrum]

oh well lowest ops speedrun to be exact

[full terrace]

Btw what does this video title say?

8 ops 39 secs clear?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea

[full terrace]

I cant open bili links

Okay okay

[scarlet fulcrum]

There is manual and auto on the video

[visual phoenix]

Are all event stages good to farm or any in particular?

[full terrace]

Alloys are good

[scarlet fulcrum]

Node 7

[full terrace]

The green thingy is also decent if you are lacking

What is it called again urgh

[lofty sundial]

polyester

[full terrace]

Yah that

[scarlet fulcrum]

puke bag

[visual phoenix]

Thanks guys:)

[full terrace]

If you are new, like super new. You might want to farm couples of Fibers from boss stage (DT-8). Newer ops ask for a handful of Solidified Fiber Boards, which are made from these Fibers. You cant really get these until you progress far enough in Chapter 13, so I think this is a perfect time to grab a few.

It took me quite awhile to upgrade Wisadel and Ulpianus on my alt because of this material.

[scarlet fulcrum]

The t4 one quite spreading on notable ops, farm enough amount is fine tbh. If u cant wait with green certs cope. In the end just look at ur planner

[visual phoenix]

Hmm yeah i am rather new, just a month and half so far i think, and i just got to ch11. But unfortunately I couldn't 3 star stage 8... For some reason my whole board exploded when the dog came around for a 3rd time, can you explain why that happened?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Krooster very easy to use planner btw

[scarlet mortar]

each time ceobe loops without eating she takes a life point

[scarlet fulcrum]

U cant satisfy dog, u lose

[scarlet mortar]

did you just let her eat all your life points lmao

[scarlet fulcrum]

It has icon for the food she want

[full terrace]

Yah then you might want to grab a few, like 10 or 20. For older players, the impact of this material is not that felt because we can just grab them from cert shops for example. But for newer players, this is really felt. I know this because I have an alt that is fairly new.

[visual phoenix]

I didnt even see an icon truthfully, just a circle loading. Only thing i got from killing something was a berry and i put it below him but he never touched it

[full terrace]

Fun fact: if you search with keyword "Solidified Fiber Board" on this server, you can see a handful of newbies that experienced this 😂

[visual phoenix]

Guess ill have to try this stage some more huh hah

[scarlet mortar]

you need to kill the other mobs to add food to the pot

once the pot's done cooking ceobe should rush to it

else she bites you

[lofty sundial]

stated in info

[scarlet mortar]

^ just read

[lofty sundial]

cooking tutorial also on early stage right

[scarlet fulcrum]

The game starts on that phase ye, ingredients also easier to obtain

After u kill her one time

[full terrace]

@pure orchid UI is pretty I gotta say

I'm switching to this one

Have been using Ela's for awhile I got bored with it

[visual phoenix]

Isnt gladia like rope? I wanted to pull the flower into the hole in event stage dt8 but the flower didnt move?

[full terrace]

Gladiia needs to be upgraded

Til her Shift Force says Significantly

Significantly = 2
Greatly = 3

Flowers have 2 Weight

[visual phoenix]

Hm but rope has the same text. Upgrade as in e1 or e2?

[full terrace]

As in her Skill

[visual phoenix]

Oh lol okay ill try thanks

Do you know what skill lvl btw? I just did until 4

[full terrace]

They need to be M3-ed, it's not worth doing the pull strat there.

[visual phoenix]

Wtf, i checked a low rarity guide and it said to use s1 rope and that's it, i figured gladia would be better. Is rope easier to get that significantly modifier

[wicked minnow]

if the flowers are weight 2, force 1 pullers should be good enough to pull. they can pull like 1 tile

ye gladiia works

sl4 is good enough too

skill 2 is her most used, skill 1 might be better depending on the stage/situation

s3 if they are all grouped up too (but that's e2)

[visual phoenix]

Oh okay thank you, l'll try then

[full terrace]

Both are equally annoying (to get the modifier). -1 Shift Force moves the enemy you are pulling by 0.35 tiles, it should be enough if they are like close to the hole.

[wicked minnow]

pullers with - 1 shift force can effectively pull enemies into the hole, it's pushers that fail at that from my bit of testing

they just have to be in the tile next to it generally and they should be able to pull them into the hole

funny clear that comes to mind being https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAlY7xwkiLk

the boat enemies are all 4 weight. gladiia is 3 force

[full terrace]

Nah not really, if the enemy you are pulling is like closer to the other side of the hole, it can fail because 0.35 would just pull it closer to the hole. Also, pushing is more consistent than pulling because -1 Shift moves the enemy for 0.44 tiles https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Shift#cite_note-1

[wicked minnow]

i know the shift page on the wiki, i read through it a bit. pushers just seem to do worse when faced with -1 shift force

i can try recording something rq but shifters seem to do better

[full terrace]

Not really for the "effectively"

You dont need to record lol I experienced that myself

0.35 means 0.35, not all enemies are perfectly centered. The extreme example would be Frost Nova H stage you can see she is right in-between the 2 rows in middle

This means she is far from both the top and bottom tiles of the upper and lower rows in the middle. Lets assume that the Final Shift Force results in -1 and you are pulling her from the top, she will only be shifted to the center of the upper row tile because its only 0.35 tile movement.

[wicked minnow]

kr-7 was on when nymph event was on. weedy s3m3 just herself without cannon cant push the enemies into the hole while gladiia can just pull them (s2m3 y mod)

im looking for a stage with a well positoned hole similar to that one to test

i found bi-8 with wellplaced hole and weight 2 enemy

[visual phoenix]

Guys i still dont see gladia moving the flower like at all, which i dont understand

Not even budging

What am i doing wrong

[clever hedge]

Skill (level) issue?

[full terrace]

Your Gladiia's skill level is?

[visual phoenix]

Sorry i figured it out, the flower wasn't in the tile the right amount i guess, worked now at skill lvl 5

[full terrace]

Lv4 and Lv5 has the same modifier: Moderately.

Also yeah thats the point I was trying to make. Moderately has 1 Shift Force, and since the Flower has 2 Weight, you ended up with -1 Final Shift Force, which moves the enemy you are pulling by 0.35 tiles. In most cases where the enemy's position is perfectly centered, 0.35 is usually enough to shift the enemy til it touches the next tile (hole).

But in the cases where their position is far from the center, 0.35 would just pull them to the center or closer to the next tile (hole).

[full terrace]

That should explain why your Lv4 (Moderately) failed.

[wicked minnow]

my point was that -1 shift force pushers cant push enemies in the hole while pullers can pull them

[pure orchid]

Oh wow it is

Damn it, where can i get 12 dollars zzz

[visual phoenix]

Man i literally tried over an hour to do dt8 but finally worked out, never touching that again LOL

[full terrace]

Skip a meal bro 🤣

[sly arrow]

i have eaten nothing but instant noodles and protein bars for the week

[full terrace]

You spend more than $12 for lunch and dinner a day I assume

[full terrace]

Mah man 👍

[visual phoenix]

nvm auto deploy failed, this is my hell

[full terrace]

My condolences

Dw about it too much if you arent strong enough to farm

When you pull a strong op in a near future, your gameplay experience will change completely believe me

[sly arrow]

what stage is dt8 again?

i can never think of the acronyms

bruh i remember taking so long to get the essence of evolution stage to work in auto

[visual phoenix]

man fk that stage nvm, this flower on the right lower spawn seems really random, i hate it, now it suddenly spawned much later

how does that even work

[glass monolith]

It is not random. Each boss phase loops same enemy spawns

Phase 2 spawns that flower after top left spawns sleep slugs and bottom left spawns golem who drops more sleep slugs on 50% hp

[visual phoenix]

Honestly i dont know how auto failed multiple times before, i did finally manage a consistent auto now though so its okay

[wicked minnow]

dt-8 coeberus boss has no dr against true damage btw

[glass monolith]

Maybe you have some randomness to killing phase 1 which desync time of flower spawn

Thanks i couldn't guess with all those "Kaltsit solo" references if someone ever got Arknights recommendation on youtube

[wicked minnow]

i was a bit lazy to do the boss on my main so i just read up on boss mechanics rq

[glass monolith]

When it dies it dies

[wicked minnow]

i thought she had massive res and def or something but it was all DR

[full terrace]

This collab event's story is really nice. Lighthearted, more DunMeshi than Arknights. I enjoyed it.

[hazy sinew]

what acronyms

like DT? the current event...?

[hazy sinew]

can't believe you didn't press the crossed out eye button for the full picture

[sly drift]

DT is Delicious (on) Terra

[south dove]

How to kill 3rd phase wolf

[hazy sinew]

just feed it

[narrow pendant]

Same way u killed phase 1 and 2

[cunning badge]

Can anyone give me a brief overview of the final stage. I dont wanna use handhold yet

[wicked minnow]

ceobe ate something that probably upset her stomache and now she wants to eat everything.
ceobe will appear at the top left asking for a specific enemy she wants you to feed her. you need to kill that type of enemy to prepare the pot and then cook the food. If she reaches the pot and it isnt ready, she will deduct 1 life point.

she's really easy to block and when the food is ready she will run past your blockers and go to the pot and appear at the top left again to repeat it

[remote perch]

Or just kill her

[wicked minnow]

cringe

[remote perch]

We must dispose of the mut

[wicked minnow]

easiest way to do the stage is to just kill her unfortunately

ceobe wasn't fit for rhodes island

[remote perch]

Indeed

Bad dog must be taken to the pound

[wicked minnow]

ceobe will be missed 😦

[latent halo]

Feed her daybreak burst

[limpid ore]

if she reaches the pot after getting beaten, she eats them regardless

[glass monolith]

EATS FUCKING WATER

[limpid ore]

picky eater
got beaten
not picky anymore

-# just like asian child, when they have tantrum cuz not liking the food, slap them with slipper

[cunning badge]

That is true. As an asian i should have figured out the mechanic myself smh

[limpid ore]

get an upgrade and get beaten by cloth hanger instead

[inner leaf]

How to deal with the whip guys on H13-1?

[glass monolith]

First i get murdered by them. Then i bring Amiya guard or any other Arts guard i like to 1v1 them away from dying enemies with medic support

[wraith lark]

can anyone help me beat 9-19? its the stage with mandragora i honestly have no idea how i can beat this stage

[full terrace]

Borrow Wisadel and 2 cycle Mandra. Lappland (and later on Wisadel) can defend the right lane. Pour the rest of your resources on the left - Mlynar S3, Logos S1, Mountain S2. Here is the strategy #strategy message and here is a simulation using someone's squad back then #strategy message

[wraith lark]

thankss

[keen flower]

Cleared🙌🏽

[wraith lark]

just cleared it tysm

[full terrace]

You are welcome

[celest bluff]

So the fastest clear is just pushing ceobeo into the hole

What about the conventional way of just beating her

[scarlet mortar]

takes 2m lmao

since she has the invuln period and you need to kill her three times

[elder flume]

Her stun range is weird

i see that Kermit also came across this problem

[full terrace]

Yeah it is known. Supah has been trashtalking her since 6 months ago if you follow him.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CXOzYT15iaU

[elder flume]

im trying to find the exact range and see if i need M3 to fully stun enemies

[narrow pendant]

No way s*pah was brought

[celest bluff]

Damn

He did not just called Tachanka bad

[sly drift]

Clickbait thumbnail
Supah

Of course it is

[full terrace]

Trash talk not strong enough to get featured in his next video

Need a more violent one

[limpid ore]

become kektone 2.0

[full terrace]

What is kektone 2.0

[elder knot]

Does anyone know how to beat this stupid stage

Stupid stupid annoying annoyinggggggg

Like omgggg I wanna smash my phone

[full terrace]

What even is DT-5 lmao

[wispy condor]

dt-5 does ask some fairly strong dps out of you, but otherwise you can just set a defender + healer in front of the blue box and just kill everything. feed berries to the large ink spirits so they dont attack you

[unkempt lintel]

the one with paintings???

and umm

those eating thingies in sides

iirc

[wispy condor]

this stage isnt so worth farming that you need to unlock autodeploy, i recommend just borrowing logos s1 and getting it over with

[elder knot]

Yeah but like where do you get the berries

[wispy condor]

you get them from defeating the yellow slugs, theyll appear in your deployment bar

[full terrace]

Bro those berries are papers, just shoot them outside their explosion range

When you kill them you get berries, feed the berries to the ink spirits

[elder knot]

What I need visual

[full terrace]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lY9Xa9jmbe8

Jump to 4:15

[glass monolith]

Slug which sleeps then escapes when damaged drops Berry.

[elder knot]

I hope your family doing well and you get the love of your life and bless every second

[full terrace]

Thank you 🤣

[turbid badge]

This was hectic

Shouldv’e utilized the chap 13 mechanic more

Wis” s2 is really satisfying

[full terrace]

Virtuosa+Nymph one cycle that Phase 2 Sanguinarch

Got 4 bombs to work with anyway, not that big of a deal

[turbid badge]

Honestly eyja made this pretty easy

[full terrace]

She does. Shu, Eyja, and Ulpi are the bane of Damazti

[pearl breach]

You may use reedic S3 + logos S1 during the boss 2nd phase to stress test your PC

[unkempt lintel]

imagine the days where eyjaberry dont exist when they introduced damatzi

[pearl breach]

We use ng and deal with 0 def defenders.

[glass monolith]

#strategy message

[unkempt lintel]

oh yeh right AH can cheeze that one yeh

[glass monolith]

My chapter 12 in nutshell was Bizarre AH adventures

I had no sanity to work around DP cap

[pearl breach]

...and there is ancool clear with 5 guards and nothing else.
The content creator is a truly different breed

[full terrace]

Yeah Eyjaberry is broken when it comes to Elemental Damage. I recorded this awhile back #strategy message. She just sat there and completely neutralized Damazti's Corrosion Damage, like completely, you can check Shu's Defense there when I was about to activate her skill for the last time - completely intact!

[glass monolith]

Everyone can upload their gaming. Need to go over the board for views

[pearl breach]

Haha.. it is indeed his most viewed video on his channel

It is safe to say that strat is working

[wispy condor]

https://krooster.com/u/orikusakihara any chance of my account clearing h13-4 anytime soon? im missing just about all the 6stars ive seen people bring to this stage

[full terrace]

H13-4 is just one big ball of dps check, if you have broken ops like Wis and friends, you can clear it 100%

[full terrace]

Might be a bit difficult since Mlynar is your only AoE

Oh Lee works too

Marcille could help if you E2 her

Hoshi and Penance could also help

[scarlet mortar]

i like how the H13-4 4* record has beehunter

[pearl breach]

I feel like your biggest problem will be holding the top lane and dealing with two drones.
Bottom lane should be fine since you have enough hps.

[scarlet mortar]

we have exu at home

[wispy condor]

wrong stage, sanguinarch is my issue

h12-4 is down already

[glass monolith]

Oh yea... Fuck h13

[full terrace]

They have their own topic, they were not replying to your H13-4

Only me and cyanine talked about H13-4

[wispy condor]

oh i see

[glass monolith]

Nah it ja my bad I assumed it is still continuation of h12

[full terrace]

Bro 😂

[glass monolith]

[full terrace]

Sanguinarch you mainly need to time the bombs, you have 4 bombs to work with before he destroys all your bomb stations.

Your Lee can hold the bottom lane's bloodworms and reborn creations

They have 0~1 Weight

Lee will just push them forever

[wispy condor]

on some attempts sanguinarch throws blood mist and drops lees aspd below what he needs to stall bottom lane how should i avoid this

[glass monolith]

Lee s3 taunts? Summon taunting bombs after Lee. I think

Actually I don't know how operator taunt and ch13 bomb taunt interacts in terms of priority etc

[full terrace]

The bombs have Taunt, you can summon the top bomb to bait his mist for example

[full terrace]

From my understanding, bomb first since it has Taunt. If there are multiple units with Taunts, last deployed one is picked.

Summoning bomb last is the solution yeah

[glass monolith]

Lee S3 is taunt

[wispy condor]

ive seen successful runs with lee s3 on bottom lane before, i know it does work

[full terrace]

#strategy message

[glass monolith]

Operators attack taunt enemy over taunt bomb but because enemy is threat to blue box while bomb isnt

I don't know how it works in other directions

[wispy condor]

lee and bombs have the same taunt level i believe, bombs should be prioritized first

[full terrace]

Yeah operators prioritize the ones closer to the blue box, but enemies prioritize last deployed

[wispy condor]

common issue ive been running into is finding a way to navigate the 2nd bomb in time (from top station to lower right) since i dont have any helidrop arts dps to get rid of the defenders

[scarlet mortar]

you don't really have to dps the defenders early

[full terrace]

You can delay iirc

[scarlet mortar]

just stall out sanguinarch

p1 is more wimpy, only the mist is occasionally annoying

[glass monolith]

There were defenders on H13-4?

[full terrace]

Pre-spawned

Bottom right

[scarlet mortar]

4 at bot

they just sit there and look cute for all of p1

[full terrace]

Look cute 🤣

[turbid badge]

Neat

[glass monolith]

I probably chain castered them because I don't recall them being

[remote perch]

i can't even remember anything about h13 except for the boss lol

surely it can't be that bad with modern units

[glass monolith]

I quartz stalled h13-3

[full terrace]

Yah its a breeze when you bring all the broken meta ops

[nocturne cove]

The new anni is a joke

[remote perch]

frfr

[remote perch]

alot of newer annis are like that

[nocturne cove]

I didn't even bring wisadel

[glass monolith]

We will get another practical joke when Jessalt anni arrive

[nocturne cove]

So maybe it's the annis

And not powercreep

[wispy condor]

<- has approximately none of them

[nocturne cove]

Or some shit like that

[remote perch]

they should add cliff innit

[glass monolith]

Jessalt anni be like Logos + Ascalon 400/400 or something

[turbid badge]

They always add the bosses nerfed in anni smh

[wispy condor]

most successful attempts so far have been with borrowed wis'adel (of course)

[glass monolith]

Usually normal version of bosses while everyone remember PTSD of EX stage

[wispy condor]

failed attempts are often from an early slug leak, if that helps

[full terrace]

You have Mlynar, he has good AoE dps. You dont need to destroy the bottom right altar that quickly, iirc you can stall out Sanguinarch P1 and kill everything first

[nocturne cove]

I think babel themed anni will go hard

[full terrace]

Then at 74/75 you can then destroy altar and do the Phase 2

[turbid badge]

The difference is pretty stark, me seeing eblana in firecast an ni, then she gets squatted on

[wispy condor]

current h13-4 position. do i just keep stalling sanguinarch until more enemies show up?

[nocturne cove]

Oh

I have to do those stages

I forgot

[wispy condor]

goldenglow s3 did clear away the defenders for me right after wis'adel cleared the slugs so thats good maybe

[scarlet mortar]

you need to make sure everything else (including the spines) is dead the moment sanguinarch disappears

[full terrace]

For the next wave to spawn you need to clear out those crystals

[scarlet mortar]

aka the whole map needs to be clean

[full terrace]

Not the crystals left by the bloodworms created by the altar

But the ones that count toward the 75/75

[scarlet mortar]

those should be cleared too iirc

the spines from the original mobs don't count for 75 anw

[wispy condor]

! okay 2nd wave is showing up time to lock in

[full terrace]

In Kyostin'a video they spawned as soon as you killed the ones count toward the 75 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z6_3EUi3_fk

He got some leftovers from the altar ones

They still spawn

31:15

[wispy condor]

i recall needing to debuff sanguinarch using pramanix to kill him during h13-3, am i gonna run into problems later or does wis'adel solve all

[scarlet mortar]

huh weird

[full terrace]

Sanguinarch has DR if you didnt bomb him. When you bomb him, he loses his DR for a duration.

[scarlet mortar]

in all the other clears i've seen they'd all need to be cleared

[full terrace]

When your bomb touches him, he will destroy the altar immediately tho

[wispy condor]

ive bombed him once so far. do i keep going as much as possible while the stations are still up then

[full terrace]

You need to time it perfectly so that one altar can produce 2 bombs for him

[full terrace]

I meant the Phase 2, sorry for the confusion

[wispy condor]

i see

[scarlet mortar]

p2 you can prespawn the bomb on the bottom so the station has time to charge

well you should do that for both stations if you can help it

gonna be a bit hard to time it while sanguinarch p1 spawns mists

if not ig just do it at the start of p2 and stall him

[full terrace]

This is the strat #strategy message and here is my very poor showcase of the bomb timing #strategy message

But that should give you the idea

[wispy condor]

current position

[full terrace]

Btw if you could get to 75/75 you can 100% clear it

Thats just a bomb timing you need to master

[wispy condor]

watching your demonstration i think it might be safe to push top bomb using myrtle and have ela in position to help contribute dps will try to get the bomb timing down first try here

[full terrace]

Yeah Myrtle works

Actually any ops work

But I didnt bring any weak ops there

So I used Ela

No need to copy me, I just wanted to showcase the timing to help the person back then

[wispy condor]

missed a bomb 😔

lees positioning made him start pushing the left bomb immediately, thinking i should use the time during phase transition to move him right 1

[full terrace]

Thats a pretty good result for first try

Can definitely clear it

[wispy condor]

will give it another go here i was thinking i would have to wait until yu to try clearing this stage

[full terrace]

Here is some tips: before you destroy the bottom right altar and make him enter Phase 2, you can retreat and redeploy everyone

And reposition them optimally for Phase 2

Means you can move your Lee as well

[wispy condor]

forgot to retreat saria/hoshi before moving to phase 2, definitely couldve used them to block for a bit

[full terrace]

From what I can tell you have the skill, just not the ops. Definitely dont need to wait til Yu 😅

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQDJhXV2g6M

✋🙂🤚
ABSOLUTE
CINEMA

[wispy condor]

it is done #salt-mines definitely just needed to reposition lee forward so i could time the bombs correctly. the dps squad made short work of duq'arael afterwards

and now ive got every main story stage complete for now thanks so much for walking me through the stage mechanics here

[full terrace]

Congrats!

And you are welcome

[vital vessel]

[ember field]

Anyone can fix this?

In event twilight

[vital vessel]

brother...

there's no mudrock there

[ember field]

Caster enemy is too storng

[ember field]

I forgot if there no mudrock

But its like rock

[vital vessel]

this is preset squad right

[ember field]

Yes

[vital vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv3BaaQLho0

[narrow pendant]

Yt

[vital vessel]

i was ready to handhold 🚬

[vernal lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1208608793890660452/2024-02-18_09-56-13.mp4?ex=67d24a27&is=67d0f8a7&hm=eabc7efb927f7287c2e140430a352d73c7229efdd5d315784fb15273ab598dcf&

[scarlet mortar]

that's not ucky's vid

[vernal lion]

ofc not

oh btw you can leak gourmet slug and berry slug
they didn't lose your LP

[elder flume]

does dorothy not have summoner bug

thought she did

[glass monolith]

I'm not Trello board, which bug this time?

[elder flume]

deploy doro > retreat doro > redeploy doro > max mine +2

[glass monolith]

Don't they (trap masters) spawn with max inventory of them? And +2 don't go over limit (Like NG can't 4 cage)

[lofty sundial]

like nightingale, have similar + iirc

idk if it fixed

[elder flume]

it was a way to skip promoting E1 E2 iirc

my Robin cant
not sure if P6 makes it normal

[scarlet mortar]

nope

the cap for E2 trappers is 10

the talent wording's confusing but doro has 8/10 mines on deploy at p1 and 10/10 at p3

[barren cairn]

whats the best mod for nightingale?

[tired eagle]

Range increase one

[fast nebula]

I tried push Ceobe strat

Didnt work

DT-8

Any help?

[glass monolith]

Because it is not just push it is some complex bullshitery of Shu S3 teleport and like 2 or 3 block shifts

[fast nebula]

I followed that video

[tired eagle]

Wish it was as easy as pepe event boss

[fast nebula]

But the Shein guy did it without any block

Which i dont understand

In his 42s version there was no block

[glass monolith]

Bro slips on banana

[tired eagle]

[glass monolith]

Because google search is shit i don't have context for "Shein guy 42 second video"

[tired eagle]

https://youtu.be/diNgIU49sEs?si=egswWKrUxq_33fcG

[glass monolith]

YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE S2 TEXAS ALTER BLOCKING BOSS BEFORE IT IS TELEPORTED HE EVEN MADE GUIDE LIKE VIDEO LATER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xjUsEu2xoI

[scarlet mortar]

bro used pause deploy lmao

learn to check by frames

if your eyes aren't super fast you'll miss most things that people pull with pause deploy

ok ig you can see the S2 anim anw

just not cexas herself

[full terrace]

Yo @regal frost look at that DP Generation 😂

Aspd is so high you cant hear Mlynar's schwing schwing

But Surtr's sfx is audible

[willow sun]

@little orchid isn't naran dps (skill not second) like 120k at minimum distance?

thats enough to kill 5k hp even with infinite defense

[little orchid]

smth like that, yeah. she wasted some time killing other slugs though

[scarlet mortar]

the term is total skill damage

[torn ice]

Nah its still dps (damage per skill)

:ya:

[willow sun]

i mean i used dps occasionally but yeah it is confusing

im totally not just too lazy to type out

[scarlet mortar]

:angery:

[willow sun]

"total damage per skill usage"

i would never

[scarlet mortar]

vro just say total skill damage

[willow sun]

how about

dpskill

[scarlet mortar]

total skill damage
dps (damage per skill)

the former is less chars

[willow sun]

dpskill new terminology trust

[scarlet mortar]

damage per second kill (theacc)

[smoky halo]

bros just say total dmg

🚬

we all know its refering to skill anyway

[willow sun]

dmg/skill

[acoustic slate]

Typhon s2 infinite total damage

Broken

[elder flume]

I guess thats the prototype

10 hours of theorizing
Forgot to use all Sussuro skill before cooking
Might have to use Lumen instead of Shining

[wicked minnow]

what the fuck am i looking at 😭

[elder flume]

Loudknights

[tired eagle]

What is cutter doin

[willow sun]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/2tgiovms2k
nobody asked for it but here's a degen pot1 vs pot6 dmg
so p2w smh

[full terrace]

Thats a known Cutter abuse. The main condition is that you must be able to auto-activate her skill. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rfZxIvMD7ww

And that berry does exactly that

[regal frost]

how much attack speed is that lol

[full terrace]

A lot 😂

But I got no damage Relics smh

Whats with that 1k Atk at F5 🤣

It's crazy how RNG decides the fate of your run in IS5. Sometimes you get that no damage Relics run but with stacked aspd, other time you got something like this #strategy message

[acoustic slate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563871117526433814/1344016165290377308/InesS2Yourself.gif?ex=67d27dd8&is=67d12c58&hm=93f49cfd4c7ea2e7c2ad660dfb948e487d0d316dd9982be75509fae19204fd5d&

[glass monolith]

Why it give me CC9 stall vibe

[pearl breach]

Can you try the berry with saga instead?

[vocal leaf]

I stole all your atk, sorry

[elder flume]

Doesnt Saga use her entire skill despite no enemies

[icy pewter]

Stop stealing atk vro

I'm gonna steal your def

[pearl breach]

Will it work the same way with saga?

[elder flume]

It should just be like any other

Skill end > teleport > initial sp

Cutter works because they never actually use their skill

Stuck in perpetual loop of no enemies in sight

[pearl breach]

Ohh.. so thats why
Her skill is actually being cancelled midway.

What about ntrk then?

Skill end. Normally retreat or teleport > refresh s2?

[willow sun]

oh no, not his defense! :clueless:

[willow sun]

i hate you ulpianus

[wicked minnow]

just time his skill better 🚬

[willow sun]

it’s s2 🥹

he activates and resets his attack cycle automatically

and before the last wave he always has a period of downtime

so no matter when you place him he will always leak exactly one slug at the last possible moment

bringing phon0r made him leak 2 wtfart

good enough (i forgot to hit practice)

[wicked minnow]

no that's cheating. i do not condone whatever you just did

[willow sun]

he’s just there for emotional support i swear 🥹

[vital vessel]

ulpi cheating with logosmom

[modern plover]

Logos mom ?
Thats friston

Oh the first pic

[young tangle]

Does anyone have a tip for 7-4? Bunch of dogs with infinite hp coming

[full terrace]

Fast DP Generation, multiple lanes laneholder, or Chargers

[unkempt heron]

https://youtu.be/CxHdraEVzW4

[young tangle]

Thanks going to need to farm xp to those units

[foggy grove]

uh what do you have lol

don't just copy to a tee

[scarlet mortar]

it's not worth raising 3*s if you have better alternatives

the vid's just an example

agent vg's would be better nowadays for farming that early wave DP

[full terrace]

Could just borrow honestly

Technically you dont need to raise anything for main story stages at all. My alt made it to the end of Chapter 13 without raising 3, 4, and 5 Stars.

Anything in the video*

[wispy condor]

^ its very easy to follow kyo guides by substituting in higher rarity equivalents and adjusting around the increased dp cost

[elder flume]

die first

[willow sun]

i think the ICI enemies will be dead if you nuke them with a degen that has the power of every collectible in IS

[fierce tendon]

How easy is the new anni map

Idk about the enemy mechanics because i kinda missed out from that event

[elder flume]

Wisable

[narrow pendant]

Easy as shit

Afk'd by 4 ops

[scarlet mortar]

light the heaters and keep them lit by stepping on the tile to their right

else your ops become popsicles

[tired eagle]

[fierce tendon]

Aight then

[minor marsh]

can you push ceobe into the hole without weedy?

[civic bear]

yes

blockshift

still want shifters tho

and shu

[remote perch]

i heard you can also Nymph it

[civic bear]

she'd be doing shu role

just to move ceobe off center

[glass monolith]

I don't have pause deployer reflexes to sleep ceobe mid blockshift or whatever so fuck it

[tall sierra]

There 3 way to win dt 8?

Feed the doggo
Put her into hole
Brute force her?

[tired eagle]

Yea

[tiny ore]

Yep, if you have a good True DMG DPS (Kaltsit or NTRK) then brute forcing her is super simple

[tired eagle]

CE s2 works aswell

[tiny ore]

Yep

[glass monolith]

Well putting in hole is just shortcut of domestic violence at Terra

[rich plover]

For some reason, I am struggling to fill the pot in the first phase of DT-8 despite killing the first wave of slugs

[elder flume]

stall longer

it spawns infinite enemies

[remote perch]

because the first wave of slugs aren't enough to fill it, u have to wait for the 2nd wave on the top left

[rich plover]

So a tank or a slow supporter?

Also, do the spiders count or nah

[remote perch]

if you're gonna block her with a tank, then why bother using a slow supporter when boss won't be moving cuz they're blocked lol

[glass monolith]

Enemies loop. First phase don't spawn enough to fill pot in one cycle. Boss blockable

[rich plover]

Oh right, do I have to activate the pot after it's full?

[elder flume]

yes

dog no eat raw

[rich plover]

So true, we need to cook

[glass monolith]

And if you put Berry in pot she will still eat it but take life seal away because DOG ANGWY

So don't do that

[cunning badge]

Should i build aciddrop just to deal with the crabs?

[tired eagle]

Nop build pinecone instead imo

[scarlet fulcrum]

E1 valarq sleep on it

[rich plover]

God, the crabs are slightly annoying, not really the crabs themselves but Kay herself.

I can just shove em in the hole, but god diggity damn, I need Gravel

[elder flume]

wait till you hear they one shot you with the right condition

[rich plover]

The crabs?

Btw, do I really have to defeat Kay herself or can I just stuff her?

[maiden hound]

either

[glass monolith]

Btw aren't crabs like 0 weight and there is HOLE

[limpid ore]

you can
feed her
beat her
shove her to hole

[scarlet fulcrum]

Easily

[glass monolith]

Hole is way of beating

[limpid ore]

feeding her require the pot to be full

beating her make her eat the content of the pot without being picky

[rich plover]

How many times must she need to be fed?

[glass monolith]

And feeding requires to cook or else
(it is fucking raw) gif

[rich plover]

3?

Like the 3 heads she has?

[glass monolith]

3 phases, 3 different enemy patterns, 3 different target to generate food

[limpid ore]

3 heads to feed

[rich plover]

Yea, the crab is a bit annoying, but doable

Just need a puller

[glass monolith]

And pretty sure boss info or somewhere says something of "each head requests"

[cunning badge]

Oh yeah. I didnt even see that hole

[limpid ore]

||in the EX-8 stage, she will request for 3 pompeii meat||

[glass monolith]

Fuck you for spoiler and fuck this dog it is eating NTRK S3 today

[rich plover]

Kinda annoying seeing the intro every time I enter the stage to retry

Like we get it, you're so hungry you can eat a horse

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its ur first clear so

[rich plover]

True

[limpid ore]

not everyday we have stage with cinematic intro

[glass monolith]

Next time 'Kay need to transform into a baguette wielding avenger

[full terrace]

Lol bro @pure orchid usually I reset this, but today I tried something different: a run without Doodle/Talon and F1 Shrivels. I still got 48 Relics by F5 🤣

Damage and Aspd Relics were great but the Vouchers were garbage, I couldnt even upgrade Ascalon whole run let alone the others

[rich plover]

That was surprisingly easy

All I needed to do was to heal tank the 3rd head

[elder flume]

The cinematic intro be like

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dude starving and die

[full terrace]

@pure orchid @regal frost I'm going back to IS4, wake me up when Expansion drops

[pure orchid]

Isnt the normal relic count usually 30 fir other is

Ig is5 really is just that bloated

[scarlet fulcrum]

Talon just broken

[full terrace]

Lol yeah, I was curious about that as well thats why I did that run

You can comfortably get 50 Relics by F5 without Doodle/Talon

Its crazy

Without Doodle/Talon and F1 Shrivels on a non-Blueprint Squad*

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its blueprint still

[full terrace]

Nope, this is Vanguard/Guard Tactical Squad #strategy message, if you do Blueprint, you'll get more

[scarlet fulcrum]

Technically IS5 nature just for beginners

[full terrace]

Yeh its really forgiving compared to say, IS4

IS4 is brutal bro

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thought abuse kinda L

And other than thought system u got a ton of shit after robbing cannot, meanwhile other IS

[full terrace]

Yeah

The robbing Cannot alone is already gamechanger

That fight gives like 150~200 Ingots on average

If you got any of the 3 Aspd Relics, run is 100% complete

Just by robbing Cannot

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh well grass kinda broken too

[full terrace]

Yeah Grass and the others help a lot if you arent doing Shrivels run, but I usually sell them at RT coz they give 2 Ingots 🤣

[celest bluff]

Damn I need to farm 1 billion ingots

[sour oracle]

How does Ceobe boss work? I don't understand.

[tired eagle]

You gotta feed her what she want

[astral cosmos]

@teal moon I lied

I told you I'd be done with skill backgrounds by the end of the month

i just finished right now

(it's fun and interesting though! aren't you excited )

anyways aside from shitting around, it's an endeavour that's yours entirely
you decide whether to do it or not and when
just ping me whenever you need 👍

oh uh, which one
I did like 20 infographics

here's a random one ig

[glass monolith]

Are we playing color the map?

[astral cosmos]

oh this stage brings back memories
isn't this vigilo?

[glass monolith]

Not Vigilo (Vigilo was Frostnova, Faust, etc) but one of those mini events

[astral cosmos]

vigilo was a mini event as well no?

I remember it being pretty small and having the same tenure as typhon/nymph events

[glass monolith]

I mean it was mininevent but this stage not from vigilo event

[astral cosmos]

yeah ight i forgor where this is from

[narrow pendant]

Its from Qiubai event

[astral cosmos]

oh, WB

[glass monolith]

Vigilo was my first mini event and I successfully ate shit and died as person who was yet to face even Frostnova 1 in story

[astral cosmos]

if you wanna play colour the map though, there's an actual way to play it
it's a challenge that involves using skills that visually show their range (suzu s3 blue area, nian s3 yellow area...) to colour the entire map
bonus if the ranges don't overlap

[wraith lark]

can anyone help with manfred bossfight?

been strugling on this a while now

[willow sun]

which stage is that again

[scarlet fulcrum]

10-17 normal

[wraith lark]

10-17 bossight

fight

the canon is very annoying

[willow sun]

yeah just bring a ton of fodder defenders if you plan on blocking

logos is like a cheat code for this stage since once his s1 activates you don’t need any 3 block defenders to defend the spawn

idk if it’s worth bringing e1 krooster, do you have e1 kroos instead?

[wraith lark]

uh i have both kroos at e1

[willow sun]

kroos e1 is fine

melantha or utage work as well

this is the squad i’m using

[willow sun]

does your mlynar have 3k hp?

he should at e2 lv30 but i forgot

[wraith lark]

let me check

i can level him up more if needed

he has 3.8k

[wraith lark]

how do i want to use mlyner in this syage

stage

[glass monolith]

Aiming "max block count" cannon at 0 block off skill Mlynar who will eat shit from ranged boss attacking his taunt will be cinema

[willow sun]

i put him at the top near the stairs facing down

after all of that though try to block the boss on the tile in the first image, and place a second op who has 2 or more block on the tile where beagle is to hit the boss (if it doesn’t reach you can move them one tile to the right)

here’s like a little breakdown of my run

idk why i put silence where i did but ignore it lol

[wraith lark]

could u do a screen record for the run?

[willow sun]

you can place her two tiles below myrtle instead

[wraith lark]

if not its ok ill just gollow ur instructions

[willow sun]

i could but file size limit and i cba to upload it

[wraith lark]

oh ur right

discord is annoying

[willow sun]

basically start with myrtle to gen dp

get logos down asap

ik mine is s1m3 so i have 8 less seconds of startup time than you do

i wouldn’t use melantha like how i did since she got distracted

once you get logos down place gummy two tiles above him to block the tentacle thingys i’ll call them slugs

then put another 3 block to the right of gummy in case they leak

[wraith lark]

i do not have gummy at e1 but i can use saria

or is e0 ok

[willow sun]

before you place the second three block though, put kroos on the top ranged tile two tiles to the left of the topmost red box facing left

she’s gonna shoot the guys charging the cannons

[willow sun]

yeah saria is fine

i used gummy cause my saria is e2 s1m3 lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

E1 gravel, thats enough body for u

[wraith lark]

my gravel is e0

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also great base worker

[willow sun]

at the start there’s a rush of like 15 enemies that you need to stall while logos charges s1

yeah you should e1 your gravel though

[wraith lark]

should i do that first before attmepting

i have her jist max level e0

[willow sun]

mm it’ll be helpful since you want her to block the boss as much as possible and she does that far better on s2

and on s2 she can tank the cannon

[scarlet fulcrum]

The start only 5 slugs iirc

Not 15

[willow sun]

there’s 6 slugs but you only gain up to +5 block from them

and then a bunch of extra guys who spawn slugs when they die appear

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea np

[willow sun]

i think 4 or 6?

i tried just blocking with gravel at first but they just ran through her lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

3 or 4 yea

[wraith lark]

btw i can also borrow 1character

[willow sun]

it doesn’t help that my logos s1 winds up 8s faster than his does

[wraith lark]

like wisadel

[willow sun]

so he has to stall for even longer

[willow sun]

it’s fine, mlynar and logos is more than enough damage

[wraith lark]

and i heard ulpianis is good against the cannon

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can even start with mlynar

[wraith lark]

i could even borrow gravel

[willow sun]

after all of that though try to block the boss on the tile in the first image, and place a second op who has 2 or more block on the tile where beagle is to hit the boss (if it doesn’t reach you can move them one tile to the right)

before the cannon hits, activate mlynar’s skill early so you can use it sooner during his second phase

[scarlet fulcrum]

I need to nap for a bit, gl tho. Thats overkill like other said. But borrow also option since the node not really favored to farm

[wraith lark]

thanks

[willow sun]

actually @wraith lark if you want i can screen share it

[wraith lark]

thanks for the explanation ill try

it

[wraith lark]

sure i dont mind

[willow sun]

alr

[wraith lark]

or i can screen share

and u can guide me through

i dont mind either way

[willow sun]

i can’t chat lol

i’m uhh

kinda lowkey in class

i’m all for letting you figure it out for yourself a bit but like

[celest bluff]

So what the deal with doddle vs talon

[willow sun]

doodle is for if you want fast runs

talon is if you want to farm 100 collectibles and shit on everything for fun

talon is usually the preferred way to go

uhh i cant watch cause mobile

or without playing at least

what skill level is he?

the one i’m using is e1lv50 sl6

hm

i think just stick to blockers then

unless you want to upgrade him a bit yeah

lv40/50 should work if you can get him to sl6+

that’s fine then

i’ll just stick with cheap blocks

mb i’ll do it on 1x

i kinda forget how annoying it is lol

yeah it wouldn’t be the worst idea

try and figure it out a bit for yourself it helps w/ future stages too

npnp

[wraith lark]

just did it lol thanks

completed the stage

[willow sun]

nice

[hearty bough]

Between these two, which is a better Wisadel spot?

[acoustic slate]

I have been converted to team bottom right facing up🚬

[autumn onyx]

only real ones will play bottom left facing left

[full terrace]

Your Wisadel is borrowed? It depends mainly on your other ops, if they can handle the top side drones without issue, Wisadel positioning is free. But if you are relying on her dps mostly, you may want to put her in the center to help control the top side drones.

[meager hatch]

How do I cheese R8-8

[maiden hound]

gg

[celest bluff]

Nice

[full terrace]

@pure orchid bro I tried Blueprint/Talon with Wisadel-Tin Man-Beanstalk complete borrow start (usually I do Doodle). It's stable as long as you upgrade Wis by F2. This was a no Block run until around F3 and it was smooth.

Stable for the Emergency on lower Floors I mean*

[spark sinew]

some bum friend

[full terrace]

😂

[narrow pendant]

Hi hau

[pure orchid]

Thats the exact start i used to do all the time

[full terrace]

I have been doing Doodle run forever, I only did one Talon run when I first climbed to unlock d15

Totally didnt expect the triple borrow combo to perform wonderfully

[pure orchid]

Oh we're the exact opposite then

I started with talon then ended up liking doodle more after

[full terrace]

🤣

[celest bluff]

What exactly is the portal in is5 is for

[limpid ore]

Scout with extra step

[celest bluff]

This one

[narrow pendant]

Kill it, last deployed will go poof, rsturn next floor promoted

Scout node but not by choice

[celest bluff]

Last deploy as in at the moment of it died?

Fick this shit I looking up the wiki

[narrow pendant]

Ye

Not the one that killed it

[celest bluff]

I can use this

[full terrace]

Make good use of Witchcraft, thats 3 free Hope.

[limpid ore]

i forgot, does it also give hope upon returning the operator?

[full terrace]

Fun fact: if you do Witchcraft say, on F3, and then enter Bosky, your unit will return on Bosky floor. But if you do it inside the Bosky floor, your unit will not return when you get back to F3, instead they will get back to you on F4.

[limpid ore]

peak programming

[celest bluff]

I pretty sure they give 2 hope upon returning from scout or portal

[obtuse sphinx]

What potential would I need on Chilchuk for very high risk ccb3?

[full terrace]

I just rechecked. They do give 2 Hope.

[vernal lion]

I think it doesn't matter about pot much, but it's fucking gambling s1

[obtuse sphinx]

Gacha is just refusing to give me any pots, so I wonder if he works at p0-1.

[vernal lion]

I believe there's +1 cost risk right?

[obtuse sphinx]

I don't remember

[vernal lion]

I believe it, so you will need p1 at least

with +1 cost risk, chilchuck will have 10 cost, which is still good enough 'cause you always deploy him first to get dp first (s1m3 is a must for instant dp)

[spark sinew]

you already suffer a ton from his lowrolls

[vernal lion]

yea

[spark sinew]

every extra dp cost would only make it worse

i realized ccb3 was so boring idr strats besides w1

so i can't even name other schizo units that you'll need

but you likely know them already

[vernal lion]

nah just search for social medias

there would be different variants for squad build

[wary wing]

logos

[spark sinew]

how is it a schizo unit

[wary wing]

slow rng

[spark sinew]

oh in that way, sure

[wary wing]

and nymph

[spark sinew]

i was thinking like "hyper specific shit at high potential"

[wary wing]

CCB3 schizo trio

oh

[spark sinew]

that people usually don't raise

[wary wing]

just P6 everything

it's that ez

[spark sinew]

with the context of person not wanting to pull for p2 chillch, that's not an option here

[wary wing]

why would a poor peasant even try to max risk cc

[spark sinew]

look at their name

idk about the motivations, nor do i really care just answered the questions

[civic bear]

theres no +1 cost risk what

poor man chil can still max risk ccb3

heck u dont even need chil technically

[limpid ore]

maybe on CCB4

[civic bear]

it just ccb3 needing that much (or in this case little) op

[limpid ore]

I Portatori dei Velluti CCB

[civic bear]

op needing specific stuff at x pot just naturally happens when shit gets tighter

[celest bluff]

Why not just use ines like the last 2 ccbp

[sullen rover]

use both lol

[pseudo pawn]

Chilchuck's talent makes him and some allies not die from the big tornado and his s1 potentially has the best dp production in the game... if you're lucky enough

[sullen rover]

use 2 agents just like last time

chilchuck instead of canta now cuz hes better

[smoky halo]

u use multiple agents

like the previous 2 ccs

they should print out ines2

:ya:

[spark sinew]

people used at least 3, no

i remember a ton of surfer chillch

[sullen rover]

lowest op is just 2 vg
if u dont have max pot everyone then yh use multiple

[celest bluff]

I think if you're just doing 650 then ines and canta is enough

(I haven't see what ccb3 is about)

[spark sinew]

you don't need any specific op if you go as low as 650

[tall sierra]

Ouch... Jessica alt paradox was surprise

Those 2 archer duo

[full terrace]

Remember when you said it didnt happen? Now it happened 😂

[scarlet mortar]

wish wis was able to shoot so fast she wastes ammo on an enemy she already killed

[full terrace]

Alas, she cant, not with our current Aspd cap 🤣

[gray jewel]

Is it just me or is Marcille absolutely useless

Even if I mainly use her S2

For AFK strategies

Should I complete a mastery on her S2 just to make her better?

Or module?

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-meshi-delicious-in-dungeon-marcille-marcille-dungeon-meshi-dungeon-meshi-marcille-gif-9547654821183683984

[elder flume]

I look towards S3 > S1 > S2 but thats because im not normal and looking only for utility over damage

[gray jewel]

S3 is WORSE

[elder flume]

If you want more damage go ahead for S2M3 infinite uptime

[gray jewel]

I have Wisadel maxed so I wouldn't invest on that skill

[narrow pendant]

Yes, we knew since since 6 minths ago

[elder flume]

Mod is to deploy her faster and the aspd boost is barely changing

[narrow pendant]

Late to the party

[gray jewel]

Yes me too

But I love her she's cute

I wanna use her for Annihilation stuff

She's like

A really bad Eyja

[elder flume]

I use S3 to stun without damaging enemies
Only a select few can do that so thats why shes high on my list

[tired eagle]

Better eyja s2

[narrow pendant]

Shes better actually

[gray jewel]

Why stun if kill with Wisadel

[narrow pendant]

Marcile s2 is 2nd best afk caster skill

[gray jewel]

Wait really

[narrow pendant]

Yes

[gray jewel]

Gimme a vid for reference

[elder flume]

Why kill if can do funny

[gray jewel]

Wait lemme do it

[tired eagle]

But eyja is mid now anyway so it isn't big

[narrow pendant]

Who wouldve thought that dmg of a splash caster being put out at the speed of a normal caster would be strong

[gray jewel]

Does Marcille's S2 deal better damage than Eyja's?

[elder flume]

Infinite duration vs downtime be like

[tired eagle]

In the long term ofc with infinite skill stun

[narrow pendant]

Yeah

[gray jewel]

I don't have Eyja and I wanna roll for her but if I have Marcille atm then I don't see the need to

[narrow pendant]

Marcile s2 better than eyja s2 afk

[gray jewel]

[tired eagle]

Roll for logos instead if you want better castwe

[narrow pendant]

No way youd be pulling kernel

[gray jewel]

Ok

[narrow pendant]

[gray jewel]

I got Kaltsit from Kernel

[narrow pendant]

Dont pull kernel🥹

[gray jewel]

Shut up

[narrow pendant]

Rude

Choke on marcie cooking

[celest bluff]

Chat

I need help

[maiden hound]

blow the fuck out of the four fuckers with wisadel

not like you'd lose much anyways

[scarlet mortar]

why

is that d15 or

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nah

[vernal lion]

would you matter plan much

[celest bluff]

Got everything

Also killed a rat

Fatty fatty

No parents

[glass monolith]

I built NTR to kill Fred. I used NTR to kill Ceobe.
My accuracy is little off

Also I noticed cute detail - each phase has different head eating

[full terrace]

RA has stopped expanding hmm

I guess it's time I play that

[celest bluff]

How to kill rat with 1 unit

If I can't get his ass he will likely live

[willow sun]

fast redeploy:
phantom - pretty shit fast redeploy, has a very strong is mod that makes him at least decent in is but his class is highly contested so still mid
dp-recovery:
bagpipe - gets shilled a lot by some people for flagpipe, basically her main use is allowing you to pop flagbearer skills instantly and have ok landholding for her price
seige - dogshit
support:
aak - one of the strongest buffers, but not that useful aside from buffing
magallan - summoner, has a lot of neat solo/duo clears but generally not that useful for general play
silverash - you know
suzuran - debuffer that applies 40% fragile (enemies take 40% more damage after defense/resistance) and slow
support + dps (exclusive):
mostima - very powerful stall potential on s3 by applying slow and slightly pushing back enemies with every hit, infinitely stalling enemies who are light enough
nightingale - solid healer who’s main purpose is having the ability to practically neutralize incoming arts damage on her s3 and having two on-command gravels who can be used to bait boss attacks or just ranged attacks in general
saria - you know
shining - dogshit
@fallen quarry

[celest bluff]

What the hell is this? 2020 tierlist?

[scarlet fulcrum]

The context is TO

[celest bluff]

So fatty have 50 res

Texalt s2 can do something about that

But I don't have a lot of time

[tardy elm]

Chat im i cooked?

[narrow pendant]

Time to uninstal

[celest bluff]

Who will be my best chance to kill rat

[scarlet fulcrum]

Planning for -dp3?

[vernal lion]

Wis: are you afraid

[celest bluff]

Yes

[tardy elm]

Nah bra look at the squad name

[celest bluff]

80% damage reduction

[scarlet fulcrum]

I did bruh

[full terrace]

Wisadel who else. If you got plenty damage Relics you can just shoot it to death ignoring its barrier.

[celest bluff]

Nvm

[full terrace]

If you dont, then try to time it

So that you shoot it when it turns its back on you

If you hit it behind its barrier, you deal much more damage

[vernal lion]

actually tho, I wonder if the rat can't detect Wis spot, if the rat didn't detect any op it will keep facing at a same direction iirc, you can just nuke it later with s3

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea thats it

Ray with s3 pretty much abusing his mechanic

[full terrace]

I dont think it detects operators' positioning, but it does have its own positioning

[scarlet fulcrum]

It has range for it i think

[full terrace]

Like for example its shield is facing left in the beginning, then when it reaches tile X, it switches its Shield facing right

Its easiest to see this when you meet it at Dissuasion Seminar

[scarlet mortar]

it does detect ops

basically the same design as the lizard from CF when it has a shell

[full terrace]

Idk how it detects but it always turns its back on me in some stages

Dissuasion Seminar is the most noticeable coz I face my Wis toward blue box

[scarlet mortar]

if you hit it from above or below you just win i think