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scarlet mortar
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and some only work on mobile

full terrace
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Anyway you dont have to worry too much about the column clouds drop

scarlet mortar
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that's happened to me at least and i couldn't tell you why it's like that

full terrace
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Borrowing Mlynar just to bait that is kinda uh..

broken wind
full terrace
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Yes but you said your right lane is concerning

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Then your priority should borrow someone that can lanehold the right lane

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Not Mlynar bait

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You got Wis+Logos on the left, that should be plenty dps for Dolly

scarlet mortar
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wis alone chunks 70% of dolly's hp when downed

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i did think that was absurd but then the ling wis duo exists

broken wind
scarlet mortar
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the first time you can just proc and immediately deactivate wis S3

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that allows her to regain the skill in time when dolly spawns

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not like anything in the opener needs a wis S3 early on

broken wind
scarlet mortar
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soda bottles and a marksman at a fountain

full terrace
scarlet mortar
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the sodas might take a bit too long to rdp depending on how you time them

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add someone like may though and it's free

broken wind
scarlet mortar
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(for CM)

full terrace
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Yes

broken wind
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4 soda = shield gone with wisadel

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alr

full terrace
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Same for both phases

scarlet mortar
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it's the soda that's breaking the shield

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the CM shield has 200 hp

full terrace
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Shields gone, he drops to the ground, activate everyone's skills

scarlet mortar
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one soda pop cuts 50hp

broken wind
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should i make dolly drop on logos s3 range?

scarlet mortar
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why not

full terrace
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Thats ideal yeah

broken wind
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alr

full terrace
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Because

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The left lane has those big guys

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If Wisadel alone, she prioritizes hitting those big guys, not Dolly

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But Logos is different

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His S3 hits everyone

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Thats why I keep recommending people to do Logos left

broken wind
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alr gotcha ill do it now then

full terrace
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Alright best of luck

scarlet mortar
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tbf there's the option of doing guardian + ST caster + FRD for left lane

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for people who don't have either of them and want a wis borrow

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why does logos casually cover half the map

broken wind
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aaa

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try number 6

full terrace
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Did you not bait his column clouds drop at all? CeobeConfused

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If you are uncertain, do 1 deploy 1 bait 1 deploy 1 bait

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Bring Gravel with you

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So for example you deploy Mountain right side

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Next you deploy Gravel somewhere in the middle

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Wait for Dolly's clouds drop he will always target your last deployed operator, in this case it's Gravel

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Then retreat Gravel

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Continue deploying someone again

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Rinse and repeat

broken wind
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myrtle can be retreated for fast redeploys but..

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yeah.

full terrace
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You dont need to deploy all of them at once. As long as your main dpses are deployed first. For example in this video you can see that Wisadel controls left lane and Mountain right lane https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5XG8QK71EY deploy them first then you can slowly deploy the others while dropping Soda at Dolly

It's still difficult, after all

-Operators
Wiš'adel : Skill 3 Mastery 3 Module Stage 3
Ela : Skill 3 Mastery 3 Module Stage 3
Mountain : Skill 2 Mastery 3

-Music♪
Misty Memory (Night Version)
https://youtu.be/d5q1_S6lI-0?si=S-2FfHzvE7ETfA90
So Long for Another Summer
https://youtu.be/8yCs-kT11B0?si=9j8D95vVdcBw6qXX

#Arknights #アークナイツ #명일방주

▶ Play video
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You are getting your priorities backward. You rush the deployment and ignored the clouds mechanic, then your defenses got breached because you ignored the mechanic, dont you realize that in the end you deployed for nothing if everyone is killed? Mechanics should be your first priority, and deployment second.

waxen dome
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I had to use Myrtle, Elysium and Ines to solve my dp problem.
(Also Ines worked really well to stall the boss within the range of Wisadel for a long time.)

broken wind
waxen dome
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Deployment order is really important in that stage

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I was just doing

Vanguard> Dps>AH>Dps>AH>Laneholder>AH.

broken wind
waxen dome
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Did you make Hoshi the last placed operator?

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Because Hoshi will be covered with pink cloud Because of the boss

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And she will die to the dmg

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Ehh, I can't really give anymore advice.

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My brain has been fried because of AH

broken wind
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i think

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since i havent seen dolly target her

waxen dome
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Good to know, Now I know for sure my brain is fried.

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Because of AH

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Anyway, Cya

rich plover
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Need help with SL-8

pearl breach
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Post your ops.

rich plover
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Give me a sec

glass monolith
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Boss has shield and hover. Near fountain operator need 75 hits to ground boss. Bottle explosion hitting boss equal 25 hits. When shield is down you are free to damage boss with anything, ground units included. Boss regains shield after some time. Phase 2 can be stalled with enough attackers because boss will explode pink smokes before moving allowing you to ground him before it move at all if there are enough attacks/pink smoke

rich plover
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Yea, I think the issue is DPS

glass monolith
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Yea boss defense is quite annoying on top of need to ground it to disable damage reduction

topaz fog
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No I did it. Also did sl-s-5 with the help of @full terrace . Thanks bro

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Typhon soloed that lane

sly drift
rich plover
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Best I can do is borrow someone's Wis

sly drift
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Wisadel brainrot goes too far RosChill

glass monolith
topaz fog
glass monolith
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Big physical or many arts. Either way boss is shit because damage window is smoll while defense is decent

rich plover
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For some reason, the Wis I borrowed didn't deal enough damage

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She's even maxed out and everything

broken wind
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now for cm..

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i did it by not using mountain and using penance + check if steam white or pink on penance 24/7

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it was stressful

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time for round 2 of stress now cm!

broken wind
# broken wind now for cm..

man the mylnar timing was so tight on this one too since the bottle... almost didnt die when steam explosion was gonna reach mylnar

astral cosmos
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@inner violet OptOriouS#5354

harsh oar
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I cooked with GG, Wis lv 69 and fodders

broken wind
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i failed.

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guess ill just medal the events after this one

jovial nest
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oh

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new anni

rose patrol
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logos the goat at it again

jovial nest
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I guess I'll isolate Ulpi S2M3 somewhere far

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and then just S3 with Meyja

topaz fog
jovial nest
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always fun to overkill

brittle radish
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is there any laneholder that i can trust? no mudrock & ulpipi

rugged tiger
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hey guys, my resources are kinda limited. between hoshiguma and jessica the liberated, which should i prioritize to E2 first?

remote perch
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Jessicat

jovial nest
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was there no other anni with artillery gimmick before this?

timid schooner
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afk zzzzzzz

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man wish i have ascalon for this map

remote perch
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Harder Anni when HG

sly drift
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Oh hey.. Look at this supercool medal I just dropped DocSmile

nocturne cove
remote perch
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Artificially increasing it's difficulty by handicapping is no fun

They should just make newer maps harder

vocal leaf
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i was going to retreat everyone to see how much dp i could get back but im so slow ReedBean

nocturne cove
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Then wait for lappland alter anni

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Also fuck

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I need to master logos s1

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Though lemme try it with s3

vocal leaf
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m9 him now ExeNaruhodo

nocturne cove
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He's m6

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Executor alter is training in the training room rn

glass monolith
nocturne cove
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Can't do

remote perch
pearl breach
vocal leaf
glass monolith
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CC3 - IS3 out of control with mandatory "enemy don't bleed out" risk DocSmile

smoky halo
smoky halo
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🤫

narrow pendant
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Sniperspec bans

remote perch
glass monolith
remote perch
glass monolith
scarlet mortar
smoky halo
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thats actually funnier

scarlet mortar
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comes with the benefit of allowing some tiles to be hit by two afk bonethrowers

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bc it wasn't annoying enough to lose half the map to them

sly drift
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For the sake of brain development for "tower defense" players DocSmile

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Arknights post Wisadel is pretty much that brainrot gameplay from shit mobile ads.

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And then when genuine Arknights enjoyer ask how to beat this stage.

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These "Helps" suggest them borrow Wisadel

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Nuts

glass monolith
nocturne cove
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They might be cooking something really good for ccb3

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Now that wisadel and logos exist

glass monolith
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We already had seaborn bullshit so not much good stuff left

nocturne cove
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Imagine

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Babel mechanics

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🤧

glass monolith
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Chain don't disable dodge risk LappDumb

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300% ms, 75% less chain degen big bois

nocturne cove
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Chain cutters everywhere

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Shadow assassins fucking you over

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Turrets

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idk

sly drift
glass monolith
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440% ATK Dorothy with 2.5m mechas... Wait

remote perch
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If you want a hard CC, just give the Possessed Melee dudes the only take dmg from blocked and remove his self HP lose

pearl breach
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The brainrot is never cured.

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We just move from borrowing ling into borrowing wisadel

civic bear
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it only got worse

celest bluff
glass monolith
weak gazelle
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oh new anni map already up but well.... long live freebies :ya:

elfin dome
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excuse me an entire londinium artillery anni

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how bad is it?

somber falcon
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Hardest thing is staying awake for the entire stage TinaSleep

wary wing
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idk

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Ulpian baited it

elfin dome
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oh

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not as bad then

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I'll have to give it a try later and inevitably fail in the last 10

lofty stag
boreal epoch
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i saw it come later i think definitely not until halfway

verbal pebble
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is there anyone here who has a RA team for hunting and wood gathering? Trying to build my own and use it as reference

verbal pebble
lofty stag
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I’d say you need 3-4 dps units and 3-4 collecting units

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Dps like mlynar, sa, wis, degen

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And collecting units

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Can be either executors

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Yato s1 is really good

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But also cheap defenders with 3 block

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Have two 6 man teams like this

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To use for the full day

dapper hedge
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Use *2 yato & Mr nothing instead.

autumn robin
dapper hedge
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Both have 2 block, cheap, fast rdp.

lofty stag
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Oh yeah yato1 good too

elfin dome
verbal pebble
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Alright thanks! Will use that as reference going forward

elfin dome
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oh wow

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logos trivialises this

potent prism
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how tf do you do this fight

void terrace
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Daaaaaaamn that's a throwback

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Are your ops E1 or something?

pearl breach
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You can spam mines and let pennance solo.
You can buff reedic and sandwich patriot.

scarlet mortar
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as long as you can kill pat p1, penance solos

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the mines can do that for you

potent prism
scarlet mortar
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no genuine q

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ela and penance solo that stage

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(it's much harder to do it with ela, but she can do it)

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with penance you just let pat walk over all 15 mines and then crumble before her shield

full terrace
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Going in blind, 1st try clear but that was super messy. The Cannon spawn caught me off-guard.

harsh oar
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is this a doable annihilation without all those dps

lofty stag
scarlet mortar
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4*s can clear it

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just learn to handle the cannon and you'll be fine

full terrace
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But need a careful positioning

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Chapter 13 enemies are kinda hard to deal with from newbies' perspective if you are not careful

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If you cleared H13-4 before tho, there is no way you fail this anni

harsh oar
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got it I will go for a blind run first with that in mind

full terrace
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If too many people struggle with it, I'll try to record a 4 Stars clear

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The only thing that annoyed me was the top side's casters

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But I think they can be perma-baited with a Defender.

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As long as the Defender is isolated coz the casters do AoE

scarlet mortar
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fyi you can leak up to 9 of the slugs that spawn from the 400 enemies

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those guys aren't part of the kill count

glass monolith
scarlet mortar
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yh that

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what are the chances of that happening unintentionally though HellaKek

glass monolith
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Why there is fucking drone box?

weak gazelle
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idk, canon are just a fodder
mid lane penance literally solo it
i messed up last 10 enemy because forgot to click her skill lol

full terrace
weak gazelle
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the rest just deal with top and both lane

full terrace
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From Chapter 10

glass monolith
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oh right those exist

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Doesn't matter they just die of cringe

full terrace
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Yah they are mainly from Chapter 13

glass monolith
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WAIT D*** PILLARS?

scarlet mortar
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aware

weak gazelle
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pillars?
what pillars?

glass monolith
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Invisible drone which accelerate cannon firing is chapter 10. CCB1 PTSD bullshit spawning suicide drones is chapter 12

weak gazelle
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is there any in the anni map?
i dont recall seeing it

glass monolith
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F you i am going in blind then complain at your description of enemy

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There is literally drone box

weak gazelle
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ohh whatever, maybe they die of cringe somewhere

scarlet mortar
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it's just the ch10 drones looks like

full terrace
echo herald
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Just completed, didn't see it spawning any suicide drones. Just dpsing any ops below it.

full terrace
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This is the only drone

scarlet mortar
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yh those guys are from ch10

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ch13 brings them back for the first couple stages with the cannon

full terrace
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Oh they are all Sarkaz

weak gazelle
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no wonder, its invisible
well my penance shield should kill it without me realize it

full terrace
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I should have brought CE for the funsies

echo herald
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uhh...penance is best in top right lane to solo...and drones spend most of the time on the left side of the field. edit: directionally challenged.

weak gazelle
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which top?

full terrace
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Toddifons seems fun for this anni

weak gazelle
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yeah
racist talent is the way :ya:

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just require a bit better skill timing from her s2

glass monolith
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Chain casters. Leeches. Stun dudes. Holy shit wtf HellaHands

scarlet mortar
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everyone is here

weak gazelle
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you know.... ascalon deal with them easily except caster UtageSmug

glass monolith
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Cancerland all stars annihilation

echo herald
# weak gazelle which top?

Apologies if the text is a little hard to read. 1st, place Myrtle and Logos(S1 maxed), then Walter facing up after myrtle dp generation. Follow up later with Penance S3 in top right. I had Kaltsit for healing and Gavial for healing as well as baiting casters from top right, but she died so I later relocated her behind kaltsit (un-needed, but good for peace of mind). Replace myrtle with lappland for better dps later on, or keep her to summon Monster to help bait enemies as well.

full terrace
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Yah for non 6 Stars its a bit challenging, but it's definitely doable

weak gazelle
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you want to know my setup?

glass monolith
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What the fuuuuuuu RedOmegaLul

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300/400 be like "Okay, we playing chapter 13 now"

full terrace
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Yah the top side spawns a lot of casters

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I mean I breezed through it thanks to operators' strength, but objectively speaking that wave is hard, especially from newbies' perspective.

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I'm sure there'll be a lot of people coming here asking for this later on 😂

weak gazelle
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uhhh... that so many solution to that

full terrace
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Nobody said there is no solution

weak gazelle
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typhon, horn, zuo, etc
so that being hard for newbies is what the point?
before this they have to pass anni 1-3 first

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that alone already a toll for them

full terrace
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That is exactly the point and purpose of this channel

weak gazelle
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or you mean newbie as player with limited/very few e2?

full terrace
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There are all kind of people in the community.

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Anyway, people may say its easy but thats mostly subjective. I'm not gonna deny someone's opinion on that matter coz I also personally feel thats it's easy just because I have the resources. But not all players have the resources, and for those who dont, it's hard.

topaz fog
full terrace
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Ergh I think it is, slightly

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Did you struggle more in Lone Trail or Chapter 13?

topaz fog
lofty stag
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If you know how cannon works and use cannon bait, then it’s way easier

topaz fog
full terrace
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Then def the previous one for you RedOmegaLul

pearl breach
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We need to add a spike chest on every new map.
Just to equalize that everyone get fuck the same way.

full terrace
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I freakin agree with that

lofty stag
pearl breach
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Lunacub superiority Stonks

full terrace
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Minus could rarity abuse it but he chooses to stick with 5 Stars clear for the challenge

topaz fog
glass monolith
lofty stag
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5 stars I think

full terrace
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Yah he is 5 Stars player

topaz fog
glass monolith
topaz fog
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arf used that team

full terrace
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What thing? What did I use? 😂

lofty stag
topaz fog
pearl breach
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Is that utage? The one with 44dp cost?

full terrace
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Those are meta and they are 6 Stars

glass monolith
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Dude someone downloading malware to your microwave because my screenshot is utage, humus, lunacub etc

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I just replied to arf because i felt like someone called out "not using 6*s" for this shit anni and i got bored scrolling

lofty stag
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I just used 6 stars cuz I’m lazy

crystal crow
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also, zou le, or exe alter can handle top right im pretty sure

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i did it with zou le module lvl 3, s3

potent prism
scarlet mortar
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"as long as you can kill pat p1"

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p1 as in phase 1

potent prism
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he has a phase 2?

scarlet mortar
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...yes

potent prism
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this fight is so hard omg

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I can't even kill his phase 1

scarlet mortar
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the 15 mines the map gives are exactly enough to kill him btw

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with no other damage

potent prism
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well I used all of them and they didn't even kill him phase 1

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so that's a lie

scarlet mortar
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well skill issue

potent prism
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well okay

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he hit all of them

glass monolith
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Kill count in annihilation is left number, right?

scarlet mortar
potent prism
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so I have to level up her s2?

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I have her s3m2

glass monolith
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FUCK i leaked slime which was spawned from red box, not from enemy

scarlet mortar
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S3

full terrace
crystal crow
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leaks dont matter as long you get 400/400

scarlet mortar
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you're fine

glass monolith
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It got mixed in entire shit and i expected it to be from one of enemy dying

crystal crow
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you said it spawned as extra enemy? dont those not count?

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

glass monolith
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IT WAS NOT EXTRA

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IT WAS ORIGINAL 400

pearl breach
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The extra only applies to IW kettle ig.

lofty stag
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My guy is tilted

scarlet mortar
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damn this chat is in real EN hours

pearl breach
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The seaborn is sleeping rn

lofty stag
crystal crow
potent prism
scarlet mortar
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work for what

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she doesn't do much damage to pat

potent prism
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when a mine hits him his def lowers and then you use ash flashbang and s2

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ela mine

scarlet mortar
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his def doesn't lower

potent prism
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not stage mine

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it can't?

scarlet mortar
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the mines increase damage taken, not lower his def

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it's just 50% fragile

potent prism
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oh dear

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this stage is hard

scarlet mortar
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i mean,

glass monolith
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And it only gets worse HellaKek

lofty stag
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No it ain’t

scarlet mortar
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you have a penance

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who solos

glass monolith
scarlet mortar
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just throw more damage at the rest of the stage to make it even easier

lofty stag
glass monolith
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It is bad. And it gets worse HellaKek

scarlet mortar
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penance is by far the easiest soln to 7-18

potent prism
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i love penance

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she's so hot and good

scarlet mortar
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like yh wis also solos this stage but it's not as free for her

potent prism
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I'll try it again when I return home in like 30m

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this makes me regret missing her drunk skin she could've been way better if I got it

lofty stag
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Personally like her second book skin more

elfin flare
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how tf do you beat jt8-3

scarlet mortar
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minus you're up

elfin flare
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i cant believe a map exists where i have to use my brain instead of pressing wisadel s3

glass monolith
scarlet mortar
# elfin flare how tf do you beat jt8-3

several things you can do: use FRDs to bait talulah's occasional burn skill off your ops, use nightingale to neuter the firestorm, bring other ops with res e.g. guardians

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but all in all you don't want to dps talulah until she gets to the center of the map

full terrace
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Ngl that teehee killed me 😂😂

scarlet mortar
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it's not worth the effort

full terrace
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Oh come on, everyone be relying on Wis S3 to solve their every problem

elfin flare
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hold on im in the map rn let me finish this attempt

full terrace
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Take your time lol

scarlet mortar
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there's a spot to deploy wis where she can summon two turrets to tank the whole firestorm

full terrace
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@potent prism Patriot? Your name suggests that you have Ela. Can drop her mines to apply Fragile

scarlet mortar
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she's not even bad here

full terrace
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To help with your dps

potent prism
full terrace
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Should have use the bombs to dps

potent prism
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oh okay

full terrace
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What other ops you have btw?

glass monolith
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Another 398/400 DIE

potent prism
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i can't show rn im in a place with mid service

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it turned my hotspot off

full terrace
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Ah

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What are your notable 6 Stars

elfin flare
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Exalter, Ulpianus, Mlynar, Suzuran, Saria, Viviana

full terrace
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Are you borrowing any unit? I'd suggest Nightingale

elfin flare
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What does she do

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I borrow Wisadel LOL

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My attempt just now got me to 2nd Phase Half Hp

full terrace
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She significantly reduces Arts damage taken

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Talulah's ignition and fireballs are Arts

elfin flare
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but since her firestorm made most of my ops disappeared i failed

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I dont have any friends with Nightingale

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What class is she

echo herald
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Medic

scarlet mortar
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most people struggle with the firestorm, NG negates exactly that

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much better borrow than wis here considering normally you can just stall talulah until she dies of old age

pure raven
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doesnt logos also completely negate talulah's firestorm

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if borrowed obviously

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or alrdy owned

scarlet mortar
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logos cycles faster for that yh

echo herald
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Yeah, I was thinking that myself. Logos s3(?) just stalls all the fireballs until the end of phase, no need to block at all.

scarlet mortar
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S3

pure raven
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S3 not S2

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firestorm is basically a projectile so he slows it down and erases it from existence on skill end because why not SkadiDaijoubu

echo herald
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right, forgot s2 is cheap drone-caster.

full terrace
# elfin flare but since her firestorm made most of my ops disappeared i failed

JT8-3 basically you need to survive ignition, the crossfire explosion, and the fireballs. There are 2 techniques to counter them:

  1. The FRDs technique like this #strategy message. Basically you bait the ignitions with 2 FRDs every 20 secs (Talulah's cooldown is 19 secs), and then retreat. No ignited operators = no crossfire explosion. The fireballs damage can also be shared with your FRDs later.
  2. The constant healing technique like this #strategy message and this #strategy message. Basically you use Nightingale's RES buff to survive ignition, crossfire explosion, and fireballs.
elfin flare
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beat her ass buuut my ops just died

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no one is left to def lmfao

scarlet mortar
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uh why is NG dead so early

elfin flare
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idk she got merced even when i have 4 damn healers

scarlet mortar
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did you place a bunch of them close to each other

elfin flare
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y-yes

scarlet mortar
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talulah can explode the burn

elfin flare
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oh

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i had ulpi on middle block

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and mlynar behind

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then the rest were just medics surrounding tiles

scarlet mortar
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exfed is a bad pick here

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he can't be healed and there just aren't that many enemies for him to do sth useful

elfin flare
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true that

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i dont know who to replace him with

scarlet mortar
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an FRD probs

echo herald
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Gravel bait

elfin flare
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im just healing through it instead of doing FRDs

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i only have gravel

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jaye isnt levelled

scarlet mortar
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you don't really need levels

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just let them eat the burn and immediately retreat them

echo herald
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Yato would work as well, you don't need them to survive the burn.

elfin flare
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imma try nother run except not put them in a bowl around the center

cyan gorge
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Just don’t place directly adjacent to each other

scarlet mortar
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deploy less ops and just, don't bother with talulah

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once she gets to the center she'll be blocked by someone with 2-3 medics nearby

elfin flare
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only issue is the damn fast mfers coming in early, i dont have enough dp to deploy holders that can survive and lane hold

elfin flare
scarlet mortar
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you can let the first deployed op tank the burn

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if that allows you some time to bring out the others

#

the first burn -> explode cycle is pretty quick iirc

cyan gorge
#

Or just add a pioneer

scarlet mortar
#

this is where i'd usually say that texas sucks

full terrace
elfin flare
#

hold on attempting rn

glass monolith
#

Okay fuck it i lost again. Time to draw 5th anniv card to calm down

full terrace
#

For some reasons

#

Seeing you fail made me happy

#

🤣

void terrace
#

Each skill activation recovers 75% of 6000 hp

#

And the clone casually has 1700 atk on skill

cyan gorge
#

This anni took me all morning FiaDed

void terrace
#

Its not a ling dragon but for not occupying a deployment slot its pretty kick ass

#

Need more ways to passively buff pennance to buff my clone more

#

Oh the img didnt send

elfin flare
void terrace
#

Damn mumu s2 has never been this strong before

full terrace
void terrace
full terrace
#

Ermm lets see

harsh oar
#

I think this setup was too strong for the stage...

void terrace
full terrace
# elfin flare

Ulpianus, Mlynar, Saria, Hoshi, Myrtle, Gravel, Yato, another FRD, Perfumer, Guard Amiya, Nightingale try that

scarlet mortar
#

hoshi might be replaceable with specter

full terrace
#

True, E2 better

elfin flare
#

wait amiya is wrong

#

lemme change that

full terrace
#

Should work pretty comfortably

elfin flare
#

s2 amiya?

full terrace
#

Dps are Guard Amiya, Ulpi, Mlynar plenty strong

full terrace
#

S2 is single use only

elfin flare
#

aight ill give it an attempt

scarlet mortar
#

oh E0max that yato

#

her talent doesn't unlock until you do that

potent prism
#

oops idk wtf that is

full terrace
elfin flare
#

yep

#

i brought texas and viv

full terrace
#

And

potent prism
full terrace
#

Make good use of your Nightingale's cages

#

The cages have taunt

#

And cheap to deploy

elfin flare
#

ive neeever used her before

full terrace
#

The cages can bait ignition

#

But only 2 times

#

But those 2 times are more than enough to help you open

elfin flare
#

wisadel summons were baiting ignition which was pretty funny my first run

full terrace
#

Yes Wisadel's summons can

#

Alright best of luck brother, Imma go help the other Patriot person

elfin flare
#

where am i supposed to lane hold first phase trash mobs?

full terrace
#

The bottom

elfin flare
#

okok

full terrace
full terrace
# potent prism

Ah you can bring Surtr, Ela, Reed. Are you borrowing any unit?

potent prism
full terrace
#

Actually no need to borrow but in case you want a super super secure clear

#

Lemme record you an opening example with Surtr, Ela, Reed it's pretty free

potent prism
#

you're so kind to me

scarlet mortar
#

drop penance in front of the blue box?

#

she deploys in time without pots

full terrace
#

If you are unsure about the dps, borrow Logos and that will be 200% more secure

#

Reed applies Arts Fragility and Ela applies Fragile

#

Those are plenty strong for Arts dps like Surtr

#

Throwing in Logos is overkill

scarlet mortar
#

E2L1 surtr is kinda sus but yh besides that

#

they have all the remaining mines

full terrace
#

Yah

scarlet mortar
#

even if you go myrtle -> penance there's enough time for that setup actually

#

just move the mine down

#

or place it a bit late so it only triggers once surtr's available

full terrace
#

Also works.

#

If going Penance in front of blue box might as well bring Ela closer to shoot some bullets at Patriot

#

Helps a bit

sick knoll
#

Why not js Walter? She push patriot into phase two in one skill.

scarlet mortar
#

they don't need her

#

pat dies anw

full terrace
elfin flare
#

got it lmaoo

#

viv and guardmiya make for amazing fireball sacrifices apparently

spice mortar
#

Based viviana user

full terrace
elfin flare
#

i dropped the FRD strat entirely and just changed my roster a little to just outheal the fk out of everything + make the arts guards face tank the fireballs

full terrace
#

FRD technique more consistent yea

#

But people dont like micro management

#

🤣

elfin flare
#

its almost 3 AM where i am

#

and i have 9 AM class

#

i did NOT want to sleep without clearing

#

but my brain can no longer handle micro management lmao

full terrace
#

You can sleep in peace now

elfin flare
#

thank you friend for the help @full terrace

full terrace
#

You are welcome

pure orchid
#

thank you

#

Oh wow deja vu

full terrace
#

You are not welcome 😏

pure orchid
#

Good thing im taking my leave

#

Im also boutta sleep SkadiDaijoubu

full terrace
#

Sleep well, tmr you'll be luckier

pure orchid
#

Im seaborn SkalterHappy

full terrace
#

Martus made you?

pure orchid
#

Nah im just born in sea

full terrace
#

Then Martus made you

narrow pendant
orchid marlin
#

I feel like the stat for everything is wis RedOmegaLul

#

These hell modes used to give me trouble but now 1 shot wis, no practice mode needed.

quasi bramble
#

Any tips for this stage? Things kinda went downhill at phase 2 for me Bnuuy

full terrace
quasi bramble
#

Sorry I only used this chat like idk
Once? RedOmegaLul

full terrace
#

Lemme know if you are stuck or struggle with something else, we'll figure something out

quasi bramble
full terrace
#

Yeah okay that strat should take care of the boss for you

glass monolith
quasi bramble
full terrace
#

You could, but that involves using a different strat. Try pairing him with Gladiia.

full terrace
#

How many attempts? 😂

glass monolith
full terrace
#

I'm surprised you didnt use Toddifons

#

All the enemies are Sarkaz

lofty stag
glass monolith
# full terrace How many attempts? 😂

Didn't count. Had at least 3-5 398/400 with my first most strategy which hoped to burst them. Then some dumb attempts to modify it to burst harder. Then i said "Fuck it, Totter, kill those drones who kill Astgenne each time". And then i realized. Fuck medics. Roberta 3 block cannon bait

full terrace
#

Only in this anni I guess? Are there other annies like this? I'm not sure

lofty stag
glass monolith
full terrace
lofty stag
full terrace
#

Yah but Minus doesnt run 6 Stars

lofty stag
acoustic slate
#

Invis drone when it travels through That One Tile with the overlapping ranges of Ines wisadel ascalon ela logos:

lofty stag
acoustic slate
#

Nothing natural about what happened to it 🚬

glass monolith
#

Worry not IS5 will happen and i will be in "This is too hard without Wisadel" boat first class

full terrace
#

I have fun when I play on my alt 🤣

glass monolith
#

I prefer playing other games over alting on one i play already RedOmegaLul

fast hedge
#

Ifrit is basically Logos, right? Right?

spice mortar
#

They come out slowly enough for me to just drop firewatch nukes on them when iana reveals

full terrace
#

Ah Totter is better solution

glass monolith
#

there is like 4-5 drones total

fierce tendon
#

Drones are meh

#

Its soo satisfying to see logos one hitting the slug touch of sanghshdbsh

glass monolith
#

Honestly i was this close to give up and just Logos this shit HellaKek

#

But inhaled Ethanium

fierce tendon
#

Without logos, its gonna be more thrilling dealing those slugs idk

glass monolith
tight quest
#

How do I avoid the nukes in the new annihilation?

#

If it helps i have gladiia+ulpianus

limpid ore
#

you need someone to bait the nuke placed in top right

shut delta
limpid ore
#

preferebly mudrock since she has self sustain

tight quest
limpid ore
#

you can borrow, and yes, logos make the riff raff easier

#

otherwise using defender with roberta shield or silence healer drone

mild wind
#

do you know what logos does

limpid ore
#

man, the fast moving bloodworm still creep me out

mild wind
#

also theres a perfect ifrit tile but you chose to place her there

mild wind
#

trust

limpid ore
#

sure

tight quest
mild wind
#

are you borrowing either

#

because its still no point if you cant auto proxy

limpid ore
#

the artillery target unit with the highest block count

tight quest
#

Does auto proxy give you a bunch more orundrum?

tight quest
mild wind
#

rotating maps give slightly more orundumb than anni3, allowing small but efficient sanity refund due to needing less runs to fill the weekly cap

tight quest
#

Ah, there's not much point in that case for me then. I'm better off just getting the rewards. I'm not gonna do much more than dailies leading up to pepe

mild wind
#

fuck my chungus life i need to back up big chungus further

#

two hyperbuffed blades

limpid ore
#

when no logos moment

mild wind
#

erm

limpid ore
#

have some lunch and play again later

mild wind
#

actually typhon feels dogshit here

#

HP bloat and damage reduction my behated

limpid ore
#

she barely does anything

#

while logos really help with clearing the riff raff

mild wind
#

the whar

fast hedge
mild wind
#

300 is ok

#

but 350+

#

two blades plus bunch of slugs active

fast hedge
#

Helidrop Passenger helped me through it

#

Too lazy to figure out something else

mild wind
#

how much is 1000 ATK plus 90% on full stack

#

only lvl0 stat, no lvl1

somber falcon
#

just reposition better ReedBean
like moving poncirus one tile forward or make gladiia actually help with killing enemies

pearl breach
#

Need to throw bodies on 390 since ulpi will get stunned. A couple sec stall is fine

#

Gladia S3 solo top

mild wind
#

i just kinda changed operators

narrow pendant
#

🥱

mild wind
#

u whel bro shur up

narrow pendant
pure orchid
#

Oh right ulpi does make absolute sense

#

I did mudrook

broken wind
tired eagle
#

Just use any doll keeper

broken wind
#

except verdant which is e0 lvl 1

narrow pendant
#

Then whatever tank with a healer

#

Ig

pure orchid
#

Dollkeeper is good

#

Verdant still have block 2 even at e0 lvl 1, he'll be fine

#

Plop him somewhere where he won't get hit by anything else

#

Asca being 0 block and basically holding all the lanes is a godsend

broken wind
narrow pendant
#

Yea

broken wind
#

eh ill test zuo le

narrow pendant
#

But gl having the cannon target him

cyan gorge
#

Can't bring 3 blocks SkadiDaijoubu

broken wind
#

yk.

narrow pendant
#

Wont work if u have a 3 block

broken wind
#

and uhhh logos for the other side

broken wind
narrow pendant
#

Use yato 🤯 2 block semi-redeploy

cyan gorge
#

Logos havers have it easy with this anni huh
me still being Logosless

broken wind
#

just wisadel and logos it

narrow pendant
#

Imagine using wis in somethig thats not IS

vocal leaf
#

imagine just using wis

cyan gorge
#

I got mad at this anni so I caved and threw Wis at it FiaDed

broken wind
#

throw wis at anything and your problem is solved

cyan gorge
#

Don't try doing new annis 30 minutes before work folks

pure orchid
#

Banger setup

vocal leaf
cyan gorge
#

I was malding this all morning

broken wind
vocal leaf
#

i only had like 100 pulls, i was so scared of getting her and not him HellaHands

broken wind
#

im still mad at how shu dodged my pulls

#

want shu, forced to zuo le

vocal leaf
#

now i hope to get nara and dodge pepe, with free pulls, because im saving

pure orchid
#

Ill take the pepe you wanna dodge HellaKek

broken wind
#

ill take the pepe too

cyan gorge
#

I want the 5* bird summoner

pure orchid
#

I dont want narar

broken wind
#

muelsyse enjoyers when nara

smoky halo
broken cedar
#

Talulah playable when

narrow pendant
cyan gorge
#

the 5* on the banner

smoky halo
#

hes a bird?

#

wtf

cyan gorge
#

apparently so

narrow pendant
#

Damn, a guy having burd summons, a feather in his hair(or whatever it was)

#

"Hes a bird?!"

cyan gorge
#

The are people who still don't know Mr. Nothing and Gnosis are birds

broken cedar
#

Who don't know that

cyan gorge
#

I meet them once in a blue moon

broken cedar
#

That's sad

#

I mean

#

Liberis are pretty easy to spot

#

Imo

narrow pendant
#

Thats the same with hellagur
Thinking hes something else, turns out to be a bird too

cyan gorge
#

Archetto too

narrow pendant
#

Griffin no less

pure orchid
#

Dont you want that

narrow pendant
#

Hi

broken cedar
#

I mean

#

Hellagur being a bird is extremely obvious

#

Like other hypogryps he got dem ears

pure orchid
#

You get tuya

#

I get pepe

#

We winning

rapid junco
#

I got both
You get eyja

#

We win

nocturne cove
#

i dont need anyone just gimme an offrate reedic

full terrace
#

Reediculous

nocturne cove
#

or ines

#

or ray

full terrace
#

Raydiculous

narrow pendant
#

Heres your stainless pot

shut delta
#

Is it better to nuke down the boss first or take care of the sides first. I have like 20 hp

#

I have texalter on my team too

rapid junco
#

Nuke boss and he lives = you ded

#

You rather use consistent DPS and keep your rightside healthy

#

As left side can be handled by like 1 landholder + random healer

#

It's better if you have frd for this stage

shut delta
rapid junco
#

Texas alter like are frd

shut delta
#

Wait how do I beat the boss I tried to keep lanes alive and he just sent a nuke or smt

#

And screen went white and I just lost

rapid junco
#

Did you got the suicide letter?

shut delta
#

Probably idk-

#

What does it do

rapid junco
#

Basically the bear have somewhat of hp threshold, if you manage to deal damage up to this he will stop attacking. If not he will blast

#

Break the threshold too fast will make he blasting too so be careful

shut delta
#

Ah i see so I need to do damage slower

#

Alr I’ll rerun it I never got this stage before usually I get the other ending

rapid junco
# shut delta What does it do

He will Regen if doing blasting.
The letter make he not Regen.
It's an encounter after you get the key item at like floor 4-5

shut delta
#

So it’s kinda rng?

rapid junco
#

Well, encounter means to be rng

somber falcon
shut delta
#

Alr I’ll see if I find anything if not I’ll just search a guide lol

shut delta
rapid junco
#

Site not that hard if you have strong land holderSheew

shut delta
#

My board was ok I didn’t even know there were other endings so I had like

scarlet mortar
#

he nukes you every 20 hits you deal to it

rapid junco
#

You see , he have some sort of barrier. Break that, and he sleep

scarlet mortar
#

if you pointed thorns, reed2, yato2 or exu at it you'd be dying real quick

shut delta
#

I’ll try it if I come across it next time

shut delta
#

I had a attack speed buff for specialist so I picked her up

scarlet mortar
#

well that's not the quickest way to die

rapid junco
#

It's better to pick aoe healer like ptilo or nightingale

scarlet mortar
#

but if you haven't set stuff up you're dying anw ig

shut delta
#

Oh ye I had 2 medic tanks so I didn’t get more healers

rapid junco
#

If you not confident to your DPS unitDocSmile

shut delta
#

And I had kalsit but I realized she only heals herself and monster if they’re under 100%

scarlet mortar
#

guardians are kinda ass here

rapid junco
#

And hope your DPS are enough before gargoyles and 4 block robot smashing

scarlet mortar
#

you don't want to tank for long, especially when the boss has its shield up and everything has double the mspd

shut delta
#

I didn’t take Thorns cus I never saw this stage and I was sure I can nuke on the other ending

rapid junco
#

Welp
Smh thorns are good for right side

shut delta
#

Ye cus on the normal ending I just nuke the boss and hold the middle for free

tidal sedge
#

Why was Wis' S2 used in IS5 Ed5? Wouldn't S3 deal more damage

civic bear
#

relic

pure orchid
#

It in fact wont if you have relics

civic bear
#

wis s2 scales harder with relics

tidal sedge
#

Aspd relics?

civic bear
#

yes

#

but also any relics

tidal sedge
#

ExuHyperStare
Interesting

civic bear
#

wis s3 dmg is purely based on atk buff since you hit 6 ammo regardless

grizzled cloud
#

I’m not sure if this is the place to ask, but how can I beat 2-3, I’ve tried like 60 times and I cannot get past

civic bear
#

use box

#

3 box

grizzled cloud
#

I do 😭

civic bear
#

if you died at the end

#

you can retreat box

#

and place a new one

grizzled cloud
#

Oh, I’ll try that

civic bear
#

this make the remaining mobs has to rotate all the way

#

could easily buy you enough time

#

to redeploy ur ops

#

referring to green line

#

\ retreat box then / place box

#

stage gives 6 so you can do this 3 times

grizzled cloud
#

Oh thank you so much, I’ll try it rn!!

#

I think my team is just underleveled

sly drift
# civic bear

Insane how this stage box instruction hasn't been fixed.

#

The amount of ppl who stuck there is ridiculous

scarlet mortar
#

i mean the instructions are kinda troll sometimes

civic bear
#

i mean

#

its catch 22

#

just give a hint but not solution

scarlet mortar
#

wait are there only 3 roadblocks there

#

thought they gave you a couple more

civic bear
#

? theres 6

scarlet mortar
#

oh i skimmed

#

stalling tech time

civic bear
#

this stage i can actually clear iwthout borrowing

#

🥺

scarlet mortar
#

it's not that hard

#

compared to kid named 2-5

dusty kestrel
#

help is there a way to cheese minimalist with holes?

scarlet mortar
#

yes

dusty kestrel
#

can you show me the way?

#

do you use ange/hool

#

i was wondering if an enemy is hit with shift then exit hool range would affect their ongoing shift

scarlet mortar
#

there

#

took me a while to find the vid, lmao miki was cooking

civic bear
#

combined force

dusty kestrel
#

thank youu

civic bear
#

weight 6 so weight 5 with debuff, need to push 2.5 tiles
three 3 force + 1 4 force is 1+1+1+2= 5 constant, squared/9.81 gets 2.5~

dusty kestrel
rigid iron
#

THIS ANNIHILATION IS SO BULLSHIT WTF

glass monolith
#

Ah yes. trying to block at all during MORE BLOODSUKAS THAN ENTIRE CHAPTER 10 at once part of anni HellaKek

sly drift
glass monolith
#

40 bloodsuckers

#

Oh and those are H stage variant on top

rigid iron
glass monolith
#

H suckers - 14 on H-1, 8 on H-2
normal suckers - 5 on 10-10 (13 on AE), 5 on 10-17 (literally not included in AE)

civic bear
#

top is heavier wave than bottom

normal pier
#

Sesa as your literal only AoE damage is certainly a choice.

civic bear
#

whats lapp doing there CeobeConfused

normal pier
#

Oh wait, there’s pluma.

glass monolith
#

There was Pluma. Then she got cannoned or SUCCed

rigid iron
rigid iron
glass monolith
pure orchid
#

I mean its just mudrock with extra steps, i sleep 🥱

signal wolf
#

Why not try specter

#

Doing it 5 star only?

normal pier
pure orchid
#

Dolls yeah

glass monolith
pure orchid
#

Unrelated, theyre also great for talulah

rigid iron
glass monolith
pure orchid
#

oh jesus please

#

Just last deploy dollkeeper and call it a day

rigid iron
# rigid iron

I'll try replacing Nearl with Silence on top lane tile and update yall
Even if that's unimpressive or whateverr

signal wolf
smoky halo
#

beanstalk on s2 can tank like both

#

🤫

rigid iron
smoky halo
#

then we will have mitm soon who can tank both too

#

the technology

#

wait actually whars the cd of talulah burn skill

pure orchid
#

some 20 secondsd or so

smoky halo
#

mitm solo tanks then

pure orchid
#

Do dollkeepers dying make them last deploy

smoky halo
#

since every 15s he can summon 4 gravels

glass monolith
# pure orchid Just last deploy dollkeeper and call it a day

One man already got fucked by trying to dollkeeper Damatzi with exactly 20 second skill which was failing because dollkeeper was untargetable when transforming back each time Damatzi went for targeting again RedOmegaLul
And i am master at fucking up timers

smoky halo
#

this is the tecnology now

fresh crest
#

can anyone recommend me a good IS vanguard thats not 6star and not myrtle?

signal wolf
glass monolith
#

Starting DP relic uWu

opaque aspen
#

Just got warfarin, i already have some buffers (skalter and civilight), i have a bunch of dps ops like degen who really benefit from atk boosts.

I consequentially have a bunch of healers already built (E2 ptilo and lumen, E1 silence and mulberry)

rigid iron
#

Silence works TexasBlob

full terrace
#

The casters up there will idle for quite a bit. Dont deploy anyone on your Lappland row (including Lappland herself) and the casters will have no target to hit, without targets to hit the splashes cannot reach Toddifons' row.

#

Deploy someone with super long range on your Mulberry row to shoot those idling casters from afar. If you have Ray you can extend her range using Sand Beast to shoot, if you have Typhon she can just directly shoot them, if you have Wisadel she is the best.

signal wolf
#

Doing no 6*

glass monolith
#

I hope Mul is leveled and not last deployed. Dual drones gave me most trouble before i realized middle send 0 ranged attackers and just Totter spawncamped SurtrDumb

dusty kestrel
#

how can someone mention ray typhonwadel and not logosLappDumb

acoustic slate
#

Ray typhonwadel not logos

glass monolith
#

Because logos too busy being HellaChad and killing like 300 slimes. He talks about spawnkilling caster ass (which i did with Lunacub Iana Utage FrankaWheeze )

rigid iron
#

Anyways after some strategizing or whatever, I THINK a 7 op with this specific squad is possible

#

Amiya/Texas probably replacable

glass monolith
scarlet mortar
#

mitm broken

glass monolith
#

Bro literally brought barricades into battlefield

scarlet fulcrum
#

Casually fleggsing fake 2 ops

glass monolith
#

He shows "You can garbage stall this enemy forever" and then cut to having 500 DP from Elysium. As far as fakeness goes it is better than 0 vanguard Hang S2 on anni 9 (OD) and then wait for natural DP regen which still exist just nerfed LappDumb

scarlet fulcrum
#

Nice try like usual ☕

civic bear
#

?

#

i mean

#

thats not that much

#

mitm still gen dp

glass monolith
#

Bro want uncut, x1 speed, as he Mitm to 500 dp

civic bear
#

only takes 19 mins

scarlet fulcrum
#

Its not like the first time routine business

meager merlin
#

Is shining M6 worthy? Already putting Mod3 for her S2

wary wing
#

healing mod isn't the reason you use shining in the first place

#

you use defense mod and s3

full terrace
# meager merlin Is shining M6 worthy? Already putting Mod3 for her S2

She is on the same tier as Lumen, useful as a general Medic but offers nothing significantly special. If you dont have better Medics she is good. In my personal subjective opinion, she is one of the better Medics because she is better than units like Susurro, Myrh, Ansel, and Hibiscus. However if we are talking objectively, she isnt a highly efficient Medic, she loses even to the 5 Stars like Ptilopsis and Warfarin because they offer something more than just a healing, let alone Nightingale and Eyjaberry. So, the conclusion is, it depends on whether you have these other Medics or not, if you do, it'd be better to invest your resources on them instead of raising her Mastery level, but if you dont and she is your primary healer, then go ahead and raise her Mastery level.

meager merlin
#

Current medic roster

Lumen is S3M3, the rest other than Warf S2 and Kal S3 are SL7

Currently just going through my account and planning material grinds as I'm running out of things to build

Generally speaking I only use shining when I need hoshi or whoever I'm using to tank a defense check, like chip cliff or the CC2B cars

#

Hence why I'm wondering how effective her S3 is at SL7 vs M3

full terrace
#

I'd say giving Nightingale the Mastery level would worth more there.

meager merlin
#

Also going to put masteries on her as well

M6 candidate?

full terrace
#

S2 is a niche afk skill. S3 is her most useful skill you'll be defaulting. Mastery level depends on your playstyle but at least M3 her S3.

meager merlin
grizzled cloud
#

If im lacking a medic, lime I only have myrrh and hibiscus, should I build Amiya or ptiloposis?

glass monolith
#

If you unlocked Medic Amiya - Do you really need healing? ReedBean

grizzled cloud
#

How can I unlock medic amiya?

grizzled cloud
narrow pendant
grizzled cloud
glass monolith
#

Bro asks to build Amiya-medic when he need medic when he didn't unlock her? Bnuuy

grizzled cloud
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I’m sorry bro 😭

opaque bridge
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tf do I even borrow now… LappDumb

vivid rain
wicked minnow
remote perch
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I mean you can also just borrow a Lapp

but that shouldn't really be a issue
Just place Saria on the first blockable tile on the left then exal on the next to catch the predator that pass through

remote perch
wicked minnow
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Im pretty sure just placing cheen and wisadel facing up in the middle would just beat the stage

sweet marlin
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what current annihilation maps I can beat with this squad? and a support ofc. already did anni 1, 2 and 3

opaque bridge
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my almost successful attempt was a turia borrow but the invis guy bypassed :l

wicked minnow
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Surtr it

remote perch
vivid rain
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Wis stun tho

wicked minnow
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Wis nuke has a stun

vivid rain
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Just roll offskill stun a few dozen times

remote perch
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Then how about the reefbreaker

wicked minnow
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Forgot about invis guy. You can always just block it for a second so wis 1 shots it

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Also get the roomba woth the stun so you can catch anythjgn that might leak

opaque bridge
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... i finally passed it with Art

vivid rain
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Beanstalk technology for reef perma stall!

opaque bridge
remote perch
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Just find someone who has s1 logos then just place him in the middle

Use a random defender fodder to bait cannon

sweet marlin
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ok thanks

scarlet mortar
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wait why are you using wis S3 there

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wis S2 low diffs

celest solstice
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Hmm… is my mudrock on top safe

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Or does it need more support unit

limpid ore
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safe

glass monolith
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Unless 300+ drones who hit her on that tile break shield as she gets nuked LappDumb

civic bear
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She has more than 3k hp surely

glass monolith
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But there is like 0.1 enemy pressure on that lane anyway and you Logosing so would take skill to F up even if Mud dies

civic bear
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I'd worry typhon

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She's targetable by drone

glass monolith
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Second victim of drones DocSmile

civic bear
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Just move her let mudrock handle that lane. It's very weak

glass monolith
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I still amazed how in like 1 minute (or at least it feel to last that long when you have 30 enemies on field) of 200-300 they pull 40 blood sukas which is more on would encounter in entire ch 10