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lets see 1 more auto and see if its failing. thats the only way to see
s2
im using
Exu + Schwarz are both Snipers
They hit Dolly's shields with or without Soda
Especially when you put them on fountain
If they switch target a bit
Dolly's shields will have different HP
Different HP can cause your auto to trigger their skills early or late
The sky is blue
And then at the end Dolly might get up too early
Well if you think it is then so be it
Old one
”new” one ( still not finished but bsihaaknwoajaajaoao)
It seemed so great on paper


problem with schwarz is that she shoots straight line
Oh wow
What a convoluted base
Great
Now instead of funneling enemies where you use all of your operators to tackle them, now you have to split them to 2 teams to take care of left and right
Not really a problem
Since
My ass just wipe them out before they get to the base
erm just intercept raid
So why bother making walls
Useless ahh base
Also suffers the same flaw as your base where corrals can be sniped by ranged enemies
I'm not forgetting that danger mode run you did where your corrals got sniped lol
You can make the base symmetrical and functional at the same time
Shushushsuhsshhhaaaa
You guys play RA? 

I'm playing it next year I promise
help, whats the strategy to repel this many waves, which food recommended for which operators?
Aye my brother
🤝 
I havent played that mode but I can tell that design is flawed
You mustnt have been pretty good with roadblocks
That mode seems more of Field Runner to me than Plant vs Zombie.
Pathing and repathing is the essence of Field Runner
it's also bad by farmville standards
RA is so slow
same here
Well, life happens to everyone
If this was 15 years ago I'd have played 18 hours a day clearing everything
same. i got a life,wife and work...
real
give prio to boss raids, also stat bloat shouldn't be high enough on day 31 to require you to start doing stall strats so you can still dps enemies down, would prio sailraider first since he's the most annoying one
Another wolf mogging session with ulpi singularity
thanks
Monten and exalt enough for right side. They face behind to pop soda when there's no one popping for them
You should have ela right?
Monten and ela can solve dp issues cuz they are cheap af
ask @mild wind
dont tell them, they want to beat you!!!!!
Walmart ines 
😂
No masteries even 🤢
She is still good
Yeah planning on building her soon so i can finally kill myrtle
Any units i should mastery or raise to e2? Krooster in my bio
Ignore cursed masteries like my saria and ng
I'd ask @civic bear for that, he thinks more flexibly when it comes to operators, he'll def give better advices. I'm a meta slave I'd prob just say raise Wis, Logos, Asca and then ignore the rest.
seems p comfy alrdy
Going for gladiia next if theres no other weirdge op i can raise
could consider kal s2 but if you use ulpi+glad thats basicly kal s2 tier with better damage
not much afterward
canta is good but
chilchuck 
Alright thanks. I'm probably gonna sleep on kal cuz yeah, ulpi
Did that rng short man really powercreep canta? Damn
well not powercreep
but technically bro pairs better with ines
cuz you can helidrop
and instantly fund ines
10/10 sp
in a world where you somehow bring 2 or more vg using him is both faster and more dp/s
Yeah I'm either getting one 6* in pepe banner if i cant hold my urges and one 6* in nymph banner 
Otherwise I'm free 
the rng is p decent too
it averages like 7.5 ish
so its slightly higher than median
cuz how the code works
but bro is still vg end of the day so
Alright I'll take your word for it. Thank you
I bring 2 vg to early sp long charge operators
S3 gets good with mod?
I thought the mod was for s1 breakpoints
If there's cc, i will p3 her cuz she's already p2 
s3 gets better too
cuz the mod talent upgrade gets multiplied by s3 talent buff
proc faster, can even proc 3 times in some cases
Alrighty 
yeah on elite it procs in 3s, so 3+15+3+15+3 = 3 proc within skill duration
Damn I'll take 36k huge aoe "true" dmg
Yeah I give absolutely no fucks about vanguard class
The only vanguard I raised voluntarily was mumu
Cuz she was fun to use
Used her for a while, got bored and she went straight to bench
You have no vanguards with mastery?
Well.... I could say, consequences?
No I could definitely manage it better
Idk how good dp gen of mumu is, last time i tried her, she was slow
That's tactian downside isn't it, their dp gen not great
Only Mumu as Vanguard + something like Mountain is actually fine for most stage.
~ Mumu main
Time to shill bn fr
well
mums can technically generate a ton of invisible DP on deploy if you have mod3
Casually deploying a 100% clone of pennace as the opening move of the match. Equip s2 to have regeneration too 
does this look good enough to clear SL-MO
Big cock penance rah
How did i ran out of wood
You used them
Pot 5 penance things. Just need 1 more pot now
@pure orchid my Snowsant is a millionaire 🤤
I think i skipped a few days 
I skipped every day

No time
@modern copper take Wisadel with you, and wrestle for that yellow circled tile right from the beginning using Soda+FRD, and then deploy Wisadel in the red circled tile. Like this #strategy message. Here is an example for the clear in CM #strategy message.
You can do it bro. You baited Talulah's ignition. Anyone who bait Talulah's ignition are skilled players.
I mean
It just me poorly managing my dp
Do you absolutely NEED masteries?
Laugh in CC8 Blacknight S2 stall
Pepe banner is quite a bad time
Endfield hype
If I dont find it in Play Store, I dont play it.
Any tips?
easier than SN-10
you have the stunlock handy buff by now, just cc everything to oblivion
Woaw very insightful. I will try to kill
the ranged tiles make it very free to just outrange its ass
s5 kinda sleeper
Okay cool then. If that’s the case
Lol i will kill boss with ray and ulpi from afar so it cant devour me
ulpianus predator bombing technology
My ulpi turned to 5 block there 
if u let ur ops be devour then kill boss fast it becomes a quick redeploy 🤫
S-5 is just the epitome of ranged op abuse
like the rest of the event, but it actively enables you to do it
Ill try my best to avoid vore moment. That mechanic took me a couple of tries at ex 8 lol
theres a bunch of 2 ops sniperknights clears for this iirc
Aight lemme do an attempt
there's also a wis solo
I refuse to use wis
it's funny bc SN-10 had two lanes and wis jobbed it anw
u need to rng stun for the dodgers
this thing has every mob in the tiny ass firing range
but still das krazy soloing an s5 stage
Triple vg start 
why do i see ground ops
Idk mudrock is for emergency tanking 
Maybe I’ll find a use for ascalon too like in ex 8
clap mobs 10 miles away
Poor wifey
🥹
Yes
Mf i forgot ray
I kinda miss Icebreaker Games
That reminds me but, I didn't complete the enemy index cuz I did everything within like the last day of the event
Ah oops
I don't miss getting same thing 20 times
I love that mode cuz I get to see people's playstyles
It is all Wisadels 
Well most of them played horribly but there are quite a few interesting ones
And 1 guy who Silence Alter + Aak you
I think I was among the only people running muelsyse on main squad
Not Wisadel. I contest their Wisadel they dont get to abuse her 😏
Yaa I actually like your Squad 
Left an impression on me
I still remember the exalter tech where I forgot to activate his s3 and he died of cringe
🤣
I met this one creative guy
Playing with SA+Horn in the bully stage
I think it was IG-EX-5
That was a beautiful clear
There was a bunch of people playing with old operators actually
Yes. I meant the way that guy executed his plan was clever
I enjoy this kind of thing
The boss got disintegrated 😭 @scarlet mortar @smoky halo
God i really cannot overstate how much i love the ray and ulpi combo 
Error 404 golden age not found
ulpianus BLAST
Both of them literally went over 10k per hit 😭
Freakin overkill
I can certainly say ex8 was harder
That took me like 5 attempts on normal and 3 on ex
This is my first attempt on s5 
firing range, the stage
Almost leaked a dodge mob. Literally ate logos s1 and ela s3 until blue box fkn rng
It is as if game want us to use counter measures to negate their 90% dodge. Idk
Im borrowing ely 
I just like putting my roster early 
ray actually can shit on the reef without having to reveal it with anyone
since it loses stealth at the blue box
ray can just bind and kill 
Deployment slots are limited anyway
The reef wasnt my issue this time
the og runs had this bit where the endspeaker can't eat tokens in the blue boxes
that got patched out after the rerun though
That afk strat is not a guide for a lot of people 
Wasnt talking about AFK strats specifically
It was his afk strat that abused that blue box reveal
He abused the technique on some of his guides idr which
Ohh
frigging sucks that HG patched it out, like this clear used it to an extreme
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#アークナイ...
There are others
immense dunking alert
I forgot i just surtr'd the reef. No wonder i didn't have issues with it
This is just a very comfy start 
Thats a beautiful clear
True. Well, this is my first attempt anyway and no point to optimize run
I meant the youtube's video
I also replied to this 
Oh well
I am officialy out of sources for OP wtfart 
theres the secret source
Gotta rely on events now
💳
Nice that's a step towards a skin 
Lol i screwed up my early pulls cuz beginner unaware
i hadnt considered using the explodey boys
im not sure about when to time the bottle explosion but i got a bruteforce strategy that ALMOST works, wanna see it
For the opening? Exactly at 15 DP
So 5 DP - drop Soda
10 DP exactly drop Texas
I know you have Texas
If you wait until your DP is at 11 then you missed the timing
When the 9 turns 10, drop Texas thats the timing
ah interesting
is this possible with e2 60 mod 1?
Yee
peak or nuh uh
peak or nuh uh?
i shoulda prolly had logos s3 instead of s1
Bro caster sheeps on pink cloud = multi-target.
And your ops also standing on pink clouds 😂
I mean as long as you cleared it
Congrats I guess
nope
no i didnt huh
Huhh
Now I'm real confused
OHHH
I didnt watch til the end
😂😂😂
The key is in the clouds my friend
As long as your operators stand on white clouds they are safe
And also when caster sheeps standing on white clouds they become single-target
For the top lane, block the big guy with FRD a bit to bait its painful first hit
And then burst
Try to constantly drop Soda on top lane because thats is the difficult lane
wait i think im cooking
Your operators standing on white cloud = very hard to be killed
Enemies standing on white cloud = become very fragile and easy to kill
Pink clouds are the other way around
i DID IT
Congrats
My alt is Lv70, very close to you
it took using logos s3 and quickly undeploying him once bottom corner sheep sacrificed themself to his domain expansion
the dp from ely carried HARD
Wisadel can solo dps bottom lane as long as you have some unit to block the invis sheep for her
Or reveal
@pure orchid I just bought a cloud phone service again 🤣
Auto-ing mats are pain in the..
Rear.
And power consuming
Now I use cloud phone to run the auto without actually using my phone's battery
I haven't seen suraj recently
Prolly just busy with irl matters, I always make time for ak
Last time I heard he is playing some new game
Yah the guy hasnt logged in since the 2nd
I didn't bother applying cuz I knew I wasn't getting chosen
the hell is he doing?
Well right now not winning
You need to damage towers to cast their "skill" to fire your own lazer at boss
Like when you damage them to turn them off at start of combat
They are. You damage them. Then cast their skill manually instead automatically when it turned lazer off before boss
Techically you can but bruh has shit ton of HP and lazer won't go away
Tell me numbers of stage
that doesn't look like it'll do much
"Nuke"
shows tifon
500k hp + red lazer damage increase up to 400 + have fun
It is like tanking entire birdphisdo DoT after nuking phase 1. Except not limited by 30 seconds
Think we got a diff take on "burst"

Cuz waiting like 50s for her to shoot all her arrows doesnt sound like a burst to me
Its a burst of arrows 
well it did work...
nah u just didnt see the rest i took with me xD
My favorite burst op: myrtle
I’m surprised she hasn’t been power crept yet
I thought elysium generates more dp than myrtle?
Comparing S1 mastery 3 myrtle lose to Elysium, Saileach in long run. But Myrtle is easily max pot 4* so her DP for deploy is much lower making her print sooner. But Elysium has useful for debuffing S2 and sniper buff talent. And all i know about Saileach is her S3 being thrown at enemies for fragile.
And this is topic of times before 4th flag existed so i don't remember his utility 
He's good at Wanqing, I think.
Hm
hahaha
Not loli, Daughter
.
...
😭
Are any of these ops worth building? Trying to determine who to E2 next.
there are couple good, but that comes from me who appreciates even those out of meta 😄
suzu, lin, ceobe, gladia, pozemka, gnosis, w
144p quality
i have a krooster in bio now, thank GOD
wis, ela, and the degen special™️
Wis even easier
i stuffed them into the right side
The Vanguards?
You mastered Talulah's ignition bait right? This is basically the same play except Dolly only needs 1 bait
Dolly does the pink clouds drop every X secs
the colum crystal drop?
Yeah
oh thats fuckin funny hell yeah
Yeah you mastered that technique
Also bring Plume/Vigna with you
They help with the opening
20 seconds is one frd or 2?
Another thing would be
Using Wisadel's Revenants Shadows
And
If your Medic is strong enough, you can bait on that fountain column its fine
What are they gonna do? Can they even kill a sheep?
frd 2 electric boogaloo
Bait the column drop, then retreat to return all DP
Ah smart
Basically skip one cycle of column drop
i still remember that boulder stage where you told me to use chargers
good memories
Here @modern copper
Notice a few things?
Perfumer's column can bait, so if you are super tight on DP and need to deploy Medic first
You can use that to bait one time
That column is blue box and 3 other fountained tiles so
2nd thing: Wisadel's Revenant Shadow can bait
And that position is actually good for taking out Dolly's Phase 1
3rd thing is that, Amiya's tile is safe until Dolly moves up there
ah fun
I have tried the Amiya solo on Dolly before
did it work
It works but the final wave killed the run
There is a severe dps check near the end
Have u tried a stunner?
Click can take them to the ground
Still not enough dps. You drop them to the ground they become 2 units and leak even faster
Phase 2 Dolly will circle around that area creating pink clouds
So it's a constant uphill battle since your Soda cooldown cant really keep up
Maybe it's possible with full E2 4 Stars
Silvergun might have done it
Click + ethan?
I feel like ethan would outdps gitano + stall better
Or am i crazy for thinking that
Ethan might work but you still need to kill the mob fast, while still handling Phase 2 Dolly.
Nah its a valid strat
But tbh I prefer them flying to reap full benefit of Cutter's double damage
Hm yeah but cutter cant kill them anyways so is that worth?
E2 she prob can
Is there a reason ur keeping it at e1 max?
Also have u tried indigo instead of gitano?
My purpose is to make videos to help newbies. If I'm doing E2 that becomes nicheknight and defeats the purpose
Its easier to bring 1x 6 Star in that stage anyway, it's only dps check
Yeah same
Actually I had Indigo idea before but was trying Gitano first then ran out of practice plans
Indigo would either way be better investment for newer players
Gitano is just really meh
4 Star dpses are meh in general. I was planning to clear the stage once and then refine the strat using an E1 Pinecone borrow but it all fell apart before I could even do that.
And if E2 S1M3 Pinecone could not do it, I'm afraid E1 SL7 will not make it, so I dropped the entire idea of using 4 Star dpses
4 star dps is pretty goated though 
Nah 1 Wisadel or 1 Mlynar there will solve that dps check issue, which might require 2 or 3 maxed 4 Star dpses. They look awesome for records and clean clears but thats not my main objective. If newbies can just borrow Wis or Mlynar for this stage, then thats def easier.
I wanted to make a no borrow clear (assuming everybody has Amiya) so that people can borrow and have more consistent clear
But it failed. Still needa borrow 1x 6 Star
game died, 4 times in a row cause i used degen skill when she is captured in this weird skill
That 14-21 or H14-4?
21
You block Theresa's orbs and burst her fast
i didnt die
the game died xD
there are 2 big guys inc and yeah i am pressing the skill the boss for some reason decides in that moment to bind my degen
game dies then i think its cause she is popping those binds
it doesnt go away btw they just pop one after an other lol
Yeah thats Theresa's mechanics, read this #strategy message
14-21 you need to be fast coz the 2 cages at the corner will spread
You dont have roadblocks in that stage
Also, Theresa only do the cage once, when her HP drops to 50% for the first time
i just wanted to know if someone else has that happened to them
not really a guide to how to do it the boss is nearly dead at that point but yeah my game crashes lol
Oh crashed you go that way #tech-support
what did u think i mean with my game died lol
bruh this is to much for me, where is minus hahahaha
Stage fail? Idk you mentioned tile spread
I mean bruh, you come to this channel first thing I assume was that you seek assitance for that stage.
You complaining about crashes nothing we players can do about it 😕
Finally, but I lose me sanity (in game and in real life) so much
Congrats
Don’t do that please I still have challenge mode
I feel a little offended
Then, good luck 🤣

No worries if you can do normal you can do the CM
If my 1 month old alt could clear it, everyone with developed account can
Cm u just need to distract dolly more often
who who pinged me
When does is5 release?
texalt too
i heard it was delayed for a hot while so
when do we shred boss hp?
EX-8?
If you position Wisadel like shown in the clip, then you can drop Soda on the boss everytime its out of cooldown
3 Sodas = Dolly drops to the ground
Activate Wisadel's skill to shoot
If you use Ela and she is already deployed
Plop her mine to apply Fragile as well
That'll help your Wis
dead
i shredded phase one with the closest soda placement in the world
FUCK IT WASNT CHALLENGE MODE NO
😂
has it been shortened to 10 seconds in CM?
Btw if you killed Phase 1 with that Wis positioning, can just retreat her then redeploy later for the final wave
Yes
Dolly does column clouds drop more often
is kafka a good choice for this
i dont have any other frd frds
jaye?
mmmmmmm
plume?
whats the deploy lim on that stage
The FRDs will be used a bit later on to bait the hurricane thingies
I think Kafka might not work
Plume can but she can only take 1 hit
Dont think deploy limit is an issue
even at e0 l15?
Yah
Plume has 2 jobs: 1 is to bait the clouds and return DP in the opening, and 2 is to trigger the hurricane's first hit
Same goes to Gravel but Gravel can take 2 hits
So she alone takes care of 2 hurricanes
Also 1 more thing
Retreating the Revenant Shadow and activating Wisadel's skill will summon new Revenant Shadows
And they will count as the last deployed operators
They bait the pink clouds
@modern copper here if you struggle too much, you can open with something like this
Once Dolly Phase 1 is killed, you no longer need to bait those pink clouds
You are safe
After killing Phase 1 Dolly I recommend you to retreat Ela and Wisadel both
Then use the DP to setup your defense on the right side
Like your Degen etc etc
And pop Sodas there so that they stand on white clouds
When Wisadel and Ela are ready, redeploy them on the right side to help with dps on final wave
And to shoot down the boss

Literally used passenger to deal with left lane on s 5 cm
He was a surprisingly strong option that could consitently take down the tank sheep and still chip the boss when positioned correctly
Zuo le solos right top blue box
Oh
Wisadel
I didn't think of using her
Lemme try if it's any better
Anyway I opened with Ines and wrestled for white clouds right from the beginning
Not very reliable
Yeah that fucking soda bottle
Is very expensive when you want your ops to be on field
it's 5 dp 
Yeah and because of that I can't they my healer or anyone else out
😭
I'm so bad
And idk why
Texas s2 can't even kill that sheep
That caster
It leaves him at 1hp
pink steam
Arent you Exe user
ines into wis is pretty brain dead
Exe can solo def top right blue box
I did it with Ifrit on Ifrit lane and it's pretty convenient. So idk Abt other. 
This event and these stages are indeed one of the hardest stage in the game. Wouldn't surprise it gatekeep many players even after one year.
I did it
The only problem was getting my ops out early
I borrowed mountain 😭
Mine is E1 and dies easily
Congrats
Also Zuo le is busted
Hey as long as it works 🤣
He can kill those casters while being afflicted with increased damage and dealing less damage to the caster sheep
Because pink steam on right side
Yah he good
Think so
oh nice, s2 or s3? I had considered using him for top box but was worried the casters would just outrange and kill him
Nah caster sheeps cant reach that far.
Will hit anyone in the high platforms but not on the ground in front of blue box
There’s a reason zuo le is goated. S2 or s3?
S2 needs you to spam it but he can and WILL be taking abuse like a champion while staying at low hp for the maximum aspd boost
S3 means that after having him take a hit to his hp or two he will flat out murder or maim everyone in the tiles in front of him. Then they also get stunned
Which ifirit mod is the best one? im assuming the 2nd one 'thermoformed memory'
None
Dont bother with modding her
If u so must, then ModX lvl1
S3
S2 isn't good cuz casters will fuck him anyways
S3’spam is viable since the casters can shelve off some
Hp for him to gain maximum sp gen
Yeah
They also get stunned
It got a bit risky
So no attacking him and by then you can cast it again
When he was like 1hp
High risk high reward is how solo blades are
Mhm
any guide for sl-s-5 but without using Suzuran and Eyja Alter?
There's some on youtube with mlynar and wisadel feat lower rarity ops
thanks
if u cant find anything on yt go on bilibili
Harassment
deserved
Need help guys how can I delete the stars that sheep boss has
My squad and somehow Wisadel die to those clouds and myrtle isn't enough to hold of the very 1st way of the mobs
have you been spamming the bottle for white clouds
put ops with high hitcount (gg) adjacent to fountain
Tried that too my ops die before I can deploy medic and bottles
Done the event stage
have u read what boss does
Nah I'd Freestyle
respectfully ur squad should shred
okay krill issue, go read boss abilities 
With all due respect indeed my squad shredded the boss
gud
chalter 🥹
So I done normal with this
However!
I used the same strat and bag dies somehow to skateboards
I swear I know how to play the game. I’ve beaten all H stages and CM stages of all intermezzi/side…. Now I have only this one left. Any tips? Best unit to use 
I have not tried typhon yet but idk
I set up a jess at the front (where the ice altars overlap) to draw the bombs
Bring a therapist to give status res to the actual drone killer
I dont remember but my tile placement back then made it so bait gets one of my units hit too 
So draw the bombs on the blue tile (I call it cyan) and kill the drones with the op on the red one
Keep the 8 tiles around the blue dot empty
I would use any phalanx caster to draw the attack
Aight aight 👀
Now help me with this
I have mountain or exalt solo block that lane
Havee someone pop a soda for them
Or let them face backwards, and pop their soda on their own (but you have yato so nah)
The rest of the roster is just spammed on the left side
You have a frd so right side should be eaiser
I have neither
Who is your borrow?
Are you borrowing someone else?
Haven’t borrowed yet
Ulpi right + gladiia left should work
So I guess I borrow a mountain
Raised not an abyssal
Exalt is better
Which stage?
Context: done normal sl s 5 but can’t do challenge mode with almost the same tactic
So which skill
Read this #strategy message
If you played it right, technically Logos left, Wisadel right, and SilverAsh for reveal should do the trick
S3 exalt s2 monten

Okay guys.
I'm stuck at SL EX 8 CM.
How do I complete it?
I'm a new player and don't have many good units.
So what to do lmao.
Bait Dolly's column clouds drop like how you bait Talulah's ignition
Did you bait Talulah's ignition before?
I haven't even made it past chapter 6.
I started late November.
What units you have
6 stars, Suzuran, Mountain, Ulpianus, Seige and Gladiia.
5 stars, I have E2 Amiya and E2 Texas, the others I haven't built.
Screenshot, sort by rarity
Ight bet.
My key to winning that was mlynar bait while others rain hellfire on that red box
these are all the four stars i have built.
i am gonna build cuora next.
Nice I think that might work
whats the technique behind sl-s-4? it seems like a rusher stage but i have not the time to even TRY to set up
hopefully arflanyr writes up the general strat before i get up and find the 1604 clear
So you basically borrow Wisadel, and open with Myrtle in front of bluebox. Then deploy Wisadel right away on that red circled tile. The key is to deploy Wisadel quick and shoot Dolly in his initial spawn position after removing his shield by dropping Sodas on the green squared tile. Wisadel alone cannot 1 cycle Dolly and he will move up there to black circled tile, when he does, now you drop Soda on yellow squared tile to remove his shields and shoot him again, this will take care of his Phase 1. Now retreat your Wisadel and redeploy her later on the right side for Phase 2 and the final wave.
For the right side - first you bring Plume (and Vigna if you have her). After deploying Wisadel, drop Mountain on Purple circled tile, and then Plume somewhere in the middle, something like 4 tiles to the right of Wisadel. Dolly will drop clouds on Plume, retreat to return all DP, then deploy Ulpianus on White circled tile. You can swap Ulpi and Mountain around. The key is to always bait the clouds drop away from your defense at the right side.
@surreal epoch here open like this with your Mountain and Ulpianus. Wisadel borrow.
After Dolly starts moving, retreat Kroos because you need her spot to drop Soda. She will also return a bit of DP to setup your defense on the right side.
Also activate your Mountain's skill dont be like me
i dont really understand why you wouldnt want to wisadel rightside from the start 🤨
is killing dolly that important
You help the person khant, I gotta run.
If Dolly alive it does skill and from observing this chat people hate when dolly does skill 
Does a dollkeeper substituting retrigger deployment order aggro? As in when they swap it acts like you just placed them down in aggro order?
okay but baiting dolly with cardigan is so easy
🥱
also its kinda heinous that may isnt built
so it does, cant u just perma bait dolly with a e0 lvl 1 verdant or something
problem solved
? no it doesnt
dollkeeper doesnt "redeploy"
it just goes main-invul for form change- doll-invul form change-main repeat
doll respawning to op does count as a 'redeployment'
Ffs. Give me a moment i will Aak kazemaru
suzu wis one cycles
so u just camp right
😪
new age of one operator core clears...
i think dolly stalls long enough for 2 wis cycles anyway
he just circles around on rightside for so long
dunno what the leftside wis was for
seems redundant as ure gonna deploy her rightside anyways
and baiting attacks onto cardi is so free cause fountain doesnt let pink smoke on it
dont think the dude is here tho
im glad there is no holes
boss is easy
my god civvies in hortus escapismo is a lot dumber than SBI
status wise yes, but it doesnt change deploy order aggro

Reminder Knoos does nothing to boss shield when not near fountain of fair and balance
@modern copper https://youtu.be/cceLRUk35rw here if my clear from last year can help u figure it out
tbh im not sure how ur having problems with this considering your squad 
after 7 HOURS OF TRYING AND TRYING NONSTOP i finally managed this bullshit stage. now I know why Kyo called it like that. getting Tomimi to proc that 25% of what I wanted... grrrhrnfhhfnejjdjamejkwkr.
also i love roberta
What are good ways to beat vanilla wing before he runs away? He keeps regenerating and running
You did a good opening but why Ely and Cuora
man.. this seems to be the solution of sl-s-5...
dolly is so annoying
all youtubers using logos wis
exu unironically counters dolly
real. seen it in sl-8.. i did the whole run with exu only. even my saved auto
high defense, and lots of dp
Yeah it was really annoying last year on the original run when all the YouTubers were using logos and Wis
clearly cuora didnt last that long. didnt she
Stick to your Soda + Texas opening, and then you can drop Ela immediately, followed by Gravel to block the Invis sheep.
Then you deploy Wisadel.
If you want Ely and Cuora that bad, you can do that also
But after Cuora, immediately plop Wisadel
Dont waste time on Perfumer
just thinking. can I do sl-s-5 with mlynar borrow? u know my roster
i have a strat in mind with mlynar. basically deploy on left part and honeyberry him. also i can nuke with surtr and yato
Your logic is to block them, that is correct. But you forgot 1 thing: you have no dps to stop their advances. No matter how much you stop them if you dont kill them they'll still breach your defense.
Wisadel borrow better
Mlynar can but I mean, Wisadel's performance is just better
i see.
placing on left only right
on the fountain
left side gate eyja s2 and suzu will handle. right side ulpi can solo right gate?
I did left side Wis. right side is more flexible so you can just do whatever I think
If you use the soda 
ya ill use ulp s2 with soda popped
You have Degen, plop your Degen
Ulpi even more
when and where
ok. so i can s3 bomb with ulp... but hes redeploy is slow. ok why will i redeploy. he can stay on white circle place on the pic
Ah ok
i am thinking of ulpi s3 bombing dolly, exu for sheild shread. right side kalsits solo and left side eyja and suzu. does it work?
plus wisadel on right
oki ill sleep. ill see in few hours. u gib.
i like overkill 
Can you tell who are who in there?
Ela + healer is enough to hold top lane.
Saria alone is enough to hold bot lane.
Please keep in mind that you have 3 broken units.
stall, you have to use ops like saria s3, suzu, theresa s2, qiubai s1, logos s2
you can also use the sleep device to buy some time before having everything you need deployed
bot lane?
Something like this.
Logos might be overkill there (since we already have texas). But Im lazy for timing walter skill 
No logos and vg is possible but the timing is kinda tight and you need to cycle ela mines.
Can someone help me clear SL-S-5?
Sure, what ops do you have
Alright congrats
blue is ulpi, red is wis and yellow and green are eyja and gladia. right side white is kalsits and black is mon3tr. am i correct?
@modern copper if you are still struggling with SL-S-4, here is a simulation with your squad. Wanqing is worse version of Elysium.
Yellow Degen, Green Suzuran
@topaz fog and this one is yours, pay attention at the part when I switch the playspeed from 2x to 1x. I slowed it down so that you can analyze.
After you took care of Phase 1, let Dolly walk around and circle back to you, then burst with Wis+Ulpi again
ok
thanks arflanyr as always
You are welcome
You can actually hold the top with nearl and amiya s2
1 six star is real
Didn't use SA, used chen for one unneccessary s2 bomb
Walter is too powerful
is retreating ulpi needed. can he survive if i deploy gladia somewhere
If you plan to burst in that area again there is no need to retreat him
But
You need to constantly keep him standing on white cloud
Meaning you must find a window to use Soda on him
And FRD to open the Soda
Which is a pain
Redeploying him is just easier
oh oki : )
yeah. the problem is will it cause too much and overall damage taken by us if we let dolly alive for that long. cause ulpi redeploy time is long
If you retreat right after killing his Phase 1, Ulpi can even redeploy on Dolly's initial spawn tile, let alone this.
There is plenty of time
oh oki
Also there is no damage taken. Dolly Phase 2 doesnt do the column clouds drop
ah nice
now i think i can do it
Your only problem is Wisadel prioritizing enemies on the left lane
You need burst the big guy fast with Degen so that Wis can focus on Dolly again
Kill the big guy on top of white clouds
If you pay a closer attention, you'd see that I did that right after triggering Suzuran's skill #strategy message
Suzuran's skill was used when Dolly is about to enter her skill range
ive given up doin this event, its 10:30 pm and i need to sleep
thanks tho
the last sl-s stage is the only stage left for me to complete the event 
but my wisadel isnt strong enough (already using a borrowed unit)
anyone know a good sub for logos?
What ops do you have
which part of the stage are you having trouble with
Alright Qyurii will help you
I'm doing somethin rite now 😂
what are most people using to beat dolly in this stage?
the borrowed unit im using is wisadel cause that's what i seem to see most people using
sometimes my left lane is too weak too, i tried kal and mudrock but so far ling does best
but eventually her summon die and i dont have enough time to turn it into the big one to reinforce it
im just hard up keeping my left lane in check while trying to defeat Dolly ;;;
the reason i lose is usually one of the two
Is Ceobe good at damaging Dolly?
its res is higher than def, so not really
i tried borrowing a Yato or Texas alter and theyre really good at saving my left lane but then i lack dps to kill dolly
show your raised ops
Can Ray Wis or Chalter do?
yes
use the bottles to take the shield out faster as well
Fudge i forgot about the shield so that why It took forever to Lower dolly's HP
Thanks Imma Fight it again
Should I Ray or Pozemka?
Use anyone to break the bottles and ground dolly then burst. They would both be good for that
should be easy with those ops
blaze should handle left side easily, for right side borrow a mountain, give him a white steam, and leave him be
bait dolly's cloud with someone last deployed on the middle left side, either sa s2 or gummy
use whoever you like to deal with dolly, ela's mine can also help if you bring her
ngl when you said it should be easy i suddenly sat down and had hope again HAHAHAH
OKI OKI I'LL GIVE IT NOTHER SHOT
oh and put mountain right above the fountain ground tile
wait, just so i understand better
who does dolly usually attack
the last op placed?
yes
yeah
What stage is this? SL-S-5?
yeaaa
Yah you can do it. Wisadel right or left either works
Heard like SL-8 is hard, any tips?
Are you borrowing unit?
Most likely will
anyone got a strat for sl-s-5 normal and cm?
My average level is like 45
Who said that? SL-8 is easy
i have both wisadel and logos
Suddenly so many people playing EX-8 and S-5 🤣
get an e2 4 star for e2 support units, borrow a wisadel
win
#strategy message this is the general strat and stage mechanics @broken wind @wanton gale
And this is a simulation example #strategy message
i didnt have time to finish sl-s stages until rn lol
Am I G?
Wisadel and Logos can handle each lane
the problem for me is the right lane
You need an E2
i kinda put alot of ops on the dolly side to speedrun
DANGG thankyou so so much!!
Not yet
can i logos wisadel mylnar hoshi nighting mulberry left side and exu mtn right side?
But I have decision paralysis
Can. Actually Mountain alone can do it
Right side*
my mtn is underleveled lol
its e2 but lvl 1
i doubt it can solo that lane with lvl 1..
Dunno who to choose
You didnt pick Lappland?
Fine, I'll give in
The key is in the cloud. Just make sure your ops are standing on white clouds 24/7
texas is good too
alr
Your main problem is that the ranged units will fuck up your formation
i want to replace my mtn with zuo le but the s2 downtimes always kills me
my zuole is fully maxxed
can an e2 lvl 1 mtn survive cm enemies
what about leaks
im borrowing mylnar so i can keep baiting dolly attack
it worked like a charm in sl-s-2
You dont need to bait like that honestly. Wisadel's Revenant Shadows can auto bait
And you stacked Logos with Wis on left side anyway
it might target the wisadel row though, which will damage my nighting
It will not if you summon multiple Shadows. Also what are you fearing with Nightingale there
This is without Medic #strategy message did you even watch that
i have ptsd from sl-s-2 nighting dying and my whole defense falls apart

let me watch it rq
black screen 
the video is unplayable for some reason
at least for me
Weird. The other person could play it
there's some weird discord thing where some vids only work on pc



