strategy

[sly pivot]

is too hard

[civic bear]

100k boss

not even 100k actually

doesnt cart edals 10k?

[sly pivot]

fall to the lazy side

[smoky halo]

ifrit does nothing

[civic bear]

80k boss vs 1million hp boss

[sly pivot]

dont listen to high tech

[topaz fog]

im not using

[sly pivot]

just tank with ulpian and sleep

[topaz fog]

real.

ng, ulpian, gladia on bottom lets see...

[smoky halo]

erm

boss path top on phase 2 no?

[sly pivot]

phase 1 is top

phase 2 is bot

[smoky halo]

oh

i got it mixed up

[sly pivot]

phase 1 dies from collateral dmg

[topaz fog]

phase 2 is bottom

[smoky halo]

ya mb i mixed up

[sly pivot]

i will bring down the collective iq of strat

💪

[topaz fog]

have u tried ulp and gladia on bottom, can it really tank?

[sly pivot]

with ng for sure

[topaz fog]

did u try.. yourself? cause he one shots

[sly pivot]

no

but crushers dont die anyway

😪

max levels live

[topaz fog]

nah

[sly pivot]

idk if ur scuffed ass levels will too

[topaz fog]

the boss 1 shots, trust me

[sly pivot]

impossible

cause boss does like 4k or smth

ulp has like 10k+

with s2

and glad has dmg reduction

[glass monolith]

#strategy message

[civic bear]

he cant die bro

[topaz fog]

this is h13-3... 13-4 boss is more strong i think

[sly pivot]

h13-3 instakills when 20%

or smth

h13-4 is weaker dps wise

just that hes tankier

cause less dps window

on the carts

[topaz fog]

ah ok. ill try khamt method, ulp s2

[sly pivot]

chat is this rizz

[topaz fog]

also cart one too

[smoky halo]

L rizz

[glass monolith]

H13-4 is bullshit because without wave feature you stuck with boss mimicking Bloodknight (memes about straight forward toward blue box path) while top being whipped, also I think there is clownfest of archers on bot

[civic bear]

isnt his atk just

barely 3k

how can he oneshot

[sly pivot]

i think so too

[topaz fog]

he did 2 shot my saria

[sly pivot]

its just 3k-4k

[civic bear]

two shot

ulpi with glad mod is way tankier than saria

like double if not more

literally double the max hp, damage reduction, and more heals

[topaz fog]

problem is s2m0 ulpi, gladia mod2, and ng can tank?

[sly pivot]

doable bro

ng res

and ulp heals off the dot

[civic bear]

def doable yes

[sly pivot]

that boss aura has

[civic bear]

hes arts

he attacks slow too

[topaz fog]

wis aded never attacks him. thats also a problem

[civic bear]

use the carts smh

you literally burst it

in 10s

[topaz fog]

ill try it. its doable. definately

if i can do h12-4.. why cant i do this

[full terrace]

@topaz fog Before destroying bot right altar (boss enters phase 2):

• Summon top bomb and wait a bit for the top altar to recharge (like half).
• When top altar charged up a bit, push the bomb and destroy bot right altar.
• Boss enters phase 2, summon top bomb again immediately. Let the bomb idle and the altar recharge a bit (like half).
• When the altar is half charged, push the bomb toward the boss. When the bomb touches the boss, summon both bombs at top and bot left.
• Push the last top bomb immediately after it is summoned.
• Push the bot left bomb when the top bomb touches the boss.
• Summon the last bomb at bot left when the previous bomb touches the boss.
• Push the last bomb toward the boss.

[topaz fog]

ok ill go. ill read the messages later. ill do it tomorrow

[topaz fog]

Wowwwww

[civic bear]

2880 x 85% x 72% (glad mod2) / 4 = 440 dps
ulpi s2m0 with mod2 glad regens 252 hps. NG offskill heals atleast 130 ish hps. thats already almost matches up

theres also ulpi talent . easily outheals total

[sly pivot]

is too easy

ulpian is the strongest operator in the game

is has been known!

[topaz fog]

what the fkkkk

let bro die..

[narrow patrol]

Be like blade
Wants to die. But can’t

lol

[sly pivot]

also boss heals ch10 slugs too

interesting!

oh he heals every unit around him

that sounds bad until u realise u always deal with him alone

and the only thing he heals is slugs

and crystals

thornsadel s2 counters his ass

[topaz fog]

reed alter and adel it..

[sly pivot]

also ulp talent at half hp is increased too so

i really doubt ure in range of ulpian dying

just saying

hes getting like +200 hp every 0.5s

[civic bear]

the dot dmg tech reach 200 too but still with ng and glad help

[lapis hornet]

omg it's mr khant big fan

[sly pivot]

gladiia less

🥹

[lapis hornet]

mr khant should I build spalter's bad mod for ulpi

[sly pivot]

wdym bad

thats the good mod

if ure buffing ulpian it cant be bad

if anything her first mod is bad because it doesnt buff ulpian

[lapis hornet]

omg so true I've seen the light

[sly pivot]

🫡

[lapis hornet]

🫡

[sly pivot]

man gladiia and ng is so overkill

:ICANT:

[topaz fog]

wtffffffff

[sly pivot]

hes just that good

it has been said

enough with the cart stacking nonsense

just deploy ulpian and win

[young harness]

[fiery marsh]

Btw i have heard that one of the strategies for IS5 is ulpi stall. That needs his s2 or nah? Talking about higher dificulties

[civic bear]

thats not good mindset to have bro

smh

[topaz fog]

real..

[sly pivot]

that ulpi stall is s3

and it probably uses sp relics

to insta get s3

[civic bear]

thats the same thing as saying just wisadel 😔

[fiery marsh]

Ah got it, it is a stun meta

[civic bear]

you need to be better

[sly pivot]

is more like block shift where u shift the enemy half a tile back and retreat

[civic bear]

this is why some people call you bad

[sly pivot]

and then u repeat it

[civic bear]

🤫

[sly pivot]

wtf

[civic bear]

not me

[sly pivot]

ancool where is this venom coming from

[civic bear]

you know who

[lofty stag]

wtf kamnt ur bad

[sly pivot]

:madge:

[lofty stag]

I thought ur dalao

[sly pivot]

im not

im just a slave

in ancools clique

they dont pay me a dime

[topaz fog]

still khamt helped me

so hes good

[lofty stag]

Just join a workers union smh

[sly pivot]

🥹

[civic bear]

not my clique bro

[topaz fog]

its ok. ill use bombs too

[sly pivot]

also phantom IS mod probably achieves this too without relics

im just saying

🤫

[fiery marsh]

I saw this video thumb but didnt click on it

Time to research

[sly pivot]

i can send u the is5 patriot stall with phantom

[fiery marsh]

I would apreciate that

Thank you

[sly pivot]

is it okay if its on bili?

[fiery marsh]

Ok

[sly pivot]

【【N15无藏等效5人圣城】萨卡兹肉鸽已经太简单了吗？】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1f84ZeQEin/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=de519011c0fb20e40fc294ca129105a1

is a relicless clear where they stall patriot to death

with spamming frds

[lofty stag]

People have too much time bruh

[sly pivot]

wdym bro

this is what the pinnacle of arknights is

[civic bear]

peak gameplay

only ak has this

other tower defense relies on soy strats

like pointing 100 dpses

[tidal sedge]

Out of curiosity (Unlocked today) what are some strats for IW-9? I tried following one guide but don't have Ethan and I had to go to the store so ran out of time.

[topaz fog]

now i cannot tank top side if i use s2 ulpi on bottom. chongus, reed alter and kalsits cant, even galter cant

maybe ill do the same thing... just follow previous all advices..

man... ulpi is needed everywhere haha

arflaynr also mentioned helpful point regarding the bombs

ill do it. dw guys

[cyan gorge]

Borrow Ethan/Ascalon then

[topaz fog]

most guy use suzuran at middle idk why

[cyan gorge]

I did a double take thinking that was a pic of my own clear

[civic bear]

u sure saria top doesnt tank?

[full terrace]

Mostly for the weakening debuff.

[civic bear]

you got texas and yato to help with killing mobs

how can saria die

heck go kaltsit top then

take a screenshot of your own setup so we can tell what even is killing you

[topaz fog]

ah ok. ill do it tomorrow..

even early stage is killing. ill use mlynar tomorrow

[topaz fog]

yes..

[full terrace]

Btw I just did a quick run with my Standard squad to find the bombs timing. Surprised myself they breezed through H13-4 like a Chapter 1 stage. Modern broken ops are something else.

Anyway I found the timing (kinda).

[topaz fog]

nearl alter s3 does massive damage against him.. whys that

[civic bear]

true damage

[topaz fog]

can i use that? i got a plan

[civic bear]

i mean yes

but your issue is

very clearly

not the boss

its the mobs for whatever reason

[topaz fog]

real.. top side tank.. ill throw ulp

[civic bear]

you just have to fix your own play really

[tidal sedge]

Guide I was following borrowed Surtr, I have no DPS capable of replacing Surtr in that guide so need another "guide".

[full terrace]

Must be kyostin's

[topaz fog]

lmao... she can nuke the boss without even the bomb

[cyan gorge]

I only vaguely remember my H13-4 squad

[tidal sedge]

Yeah, I don't know any other global guide makers. Eckogen is kinda the same. I only unlocked IW today so only spent an hour before life called.

[cyan gorge]

Just buy Ethan

[full terrace]

I mean.. Sui-Xiang is just nuke anything works.

[tidal sedge]

No money or mats to level

[full terrace]

The boss has a lot of Damage Reduction without bombs. True Damage bypasses Def, Res, DR. If thats what your play is, you can use Kaltsit S3 and Amiya S3 to stack the True Damage.

[cyan gorge]

You only need e1 lvl 1

Or just e0 since you only need access to s1

[vocal leaf]

only male clear when ulpi didn’t exist, wdym? now i can replace mlynar with logos

[lapis hornet]

damn

better male player than fakes like khant

[smoky halo]

true ulpi isnt needed just use ling exec for h13-4

[glass monolith]

All you guys have cool ass clears for h13-4, and then me rarity abusing without any cool addition or gimmick or whatever because i gave up #strategy message

[smoky halo]

my clear was just rarity aboos too 🥹

[worthy mason]

Like how

12-13

How

[glass monolith]

Operation save comrade south box

[worthy mason]

what

[glass monolith]

If those boxes don't die all (except ones which here just to kill boxes) those enemies cluster into top side

Same goes goes for top left box

[worthy mason]

how the hell do i focus on every part of the map bruh

i gotta focus amoba skill for buff, silence drones and guhh the spam so much i cant see

[glass monolith]

Oh god i was doing chapter 12 right after release and it had connection issues and i got kicked from 12-13 AE after clear

[worthy mason]

is it time i use my 6star ticket and pick up blaze?

theres nothing else i want

if mountain why not blaze, idk if silverash good cuz i got unbuilt mlynar, and exu kinda bad

[smoky halo]

use aoe here

[worthy mason]

also who destroy top left boxes

the small sword dudes?

btw i dont have wisadel and dont wanna borrow

[glass monolith]

I think bigger sword dudes go there at like last 25% of map

or maybe small. idk. done this map forever ago and can't find my own flexes anywhere in here

[opaque aspen]

Goofus strat

[glass monolith]

DOOR BOX STUCK

[worthy mason]

do i need to reveal spys when they afk?

if not then thats a free deploy slot for pinecone

i have jesster with mod, invis not problem

[glass monolith]

Well it will be more convenient to reveal them before they all swarm your probably doing something defenders

(Lunacub W)

[worthy mason]

wait do i need amoba?

i dont think so

but who do i use for bottom right box safety?

gonna try gladiia

she is e1 and not enough

[opaque aspen]

There's just something about lee single handedly (literally) throwing back out 40 dinguses while having a very intense debate with a shieldman that makes me very amused

[lost plover]

I’ve been struggling with this stage but i just realized there’s like three ifrit tiles

[cyan gorge]

Isn’t this just funnel with pillar into red tile and kill, kind of map?

[lost plover]

Yeah

[deft badger]

do i get something if i buy them again? dont remember anymore 😄

[narrow patrol]

Gold certs

So if you max lot a welfare op on the first ru. It’s recommended to buy their tokens again for LL the gold certs you can get off it during rerun

[deft badger]

how do i change a voice?

voice of what xD

[narrow patrol]

You can change the voices of your operators individually iirc

[topaz fog]

ah ok

[worthy mason]

No way

Gotta borrow mountain tho, aint so happy now

[wary imp]

I kept getting destroyed...
help?

[sly pivot]

kill the buffers

u can either push them into ur blocker or pull them in

[foggy grove]

wao blez s3 user

[wary imp]

[sly pivot]

u can like shove them into ur lane with a shaw here

and u can have a puller when shaw isnt ready for the next pusher

[wary imp]

what about the right lane?

[sly pivot]

like some caster + defender

idk

u can solve it

🫡

i can also give u the solution of pressing wisadel s3

[wary imp]

maybe.

[wary imp]

imma borrow

[sly pivot]

and plopping down blaze s2 on right side

and bait the mortars away from wis

[pure orchid]

That is a great idea, damn

[sly pivot]

is an oldhead strat

[pure orchid]

I've never thought of that when i cleared that years ago

[sly pivot]

👴

[wary imp]

wis on the right, ye?

[pure orchid]

You are old

[sly pivot]

wis on the left

and u point her right

[pure orchid]

Im old too but the wisdom did not come

[sly pivot]

and u block stuff with liskarm for wis

[wary imp]

aight
this might kinda work
-# first time use wis wooo

[stable pewter]

Does Mandragora attack while flying or I can get rid of her with Wisadel when she's up?

[sly pivot]

just manage the aggro so the motars dont hit ur stuff

[wary imp]

aight

[foggy grove]

dis creature also works 🤯

[sly pivot]

or like dont kill everyone

u know how aggro works right?

👍

[sly pivot]

she attacks while flying

idk what the second part means

but if u press wis s3 she will target air

and that might do half of her health maybe

or it might just kill her

[pure orchid]

La aoi creatura

[sly pivot]

i dont know

[wary imp]

maybe rope wasnt tough enuf but whatever

[foggy grove]

60/65 % damage red while flying

[wary imp]

lmao

[sly pivot]

ull get it on ur next try 🫡

just wisadel better or smth smth...

[wary imp]

im done

welp

1 def wasnt enuf

need to hold the right lane for ~70 sec (35 with 2x) and re-drop wis there + healer

[sly pivot]

try putting her here

🙌

[wary imp]

ok

[sly pivot]

maybe that fixes ur issues

[wary imp]

and the healer goes right of wis?

[sly pivot]

honestly if u bait shots away from wis

u dont even need a healer on her

just use ur healers on ur blockers

[wary imp]

and the snipers on bottom lane?

[sly pivot]

wis has camo

[wary imp]

i frogo
okie

[sly pivot]

🥹

maximise ur wisadel useage

in this channel ill teach u all the ropes to efficiently use wisadel

or abuse one singular broken op to its fullest

[wary imp]

🗣️

all set i guess?

oh sht they tergeting the summons

💀

[sly pivot]

deploy someone else to aggro

quick!

[wary imp]

too late mate

imma bring 2 defs

[sly pivot]

ganbare

just shove a defender in a corner

if u put liskarm last deploy

also u dont need to deploy lisk early

cause

no ones there anyway

just save her for later

🫡

so if u deploy wis earlier and lisk later

lisk gets aggro by mortar

[wary imp]

I DID IT
though it's better if i do lisk 1 tile below
but its fine

[sly pivot]

well theres always next time

[foggy grove]

but you didn't

[sly pivot]

👍

[foggy grove]

go 3* it for

[sly pivot]

ure getting the hang of it!

[spark sinew]

unlike khant!

[sly pivot]

hauck go glaze my tierlist

in help

leave these sacred grounds alone

🫵

[wary imp]

what i need is just push lisk 1 tile below

[sly pivot]

also maybe instead of lisk

[wary imp]

or the skill timing?

[sly pivot]

u can use blaze

like blaze s2

so she can kill them

lisk has no dmg

so she starts leaking

[wary imp]

oh ok

but her def is quite ... smol

[sly pivot]

u can maybe place a medic for her

and then place blaze later

[scarlet fulcrum]

She get defense on s2, unless ur sL1

[sly pivot]

so blaze get aggro

70s windup bro

but yea

😪

[spark sinew]

link it

[sly pivot]

i dont have it

fine ill make a new one

[scarlet fulcrum]

Stage slow af anyway

[wary imp]

hmm k

[sly pivot]

maximise ur operator useage

[spark sinew]

don't

i have access to old one with passenger

will post soon!

[scarlet fulcrum]

Also just retreat if leak, wasted sanity otherwise. Unless on purpose like m8-8 case

[sly pivot]

@spark sinew

i updated it

👍

its all true

i think thorns mod is quite something

🥹

[cedar hound]

Why lessing there

[sly pivot]

just too weak stats

[cedar hound]

Didnt the newest skin give him boobs

[sly pivot]

and doesnt make him stand out

😢

vigil got crept to hell by mitm

he would be c tier if mitm didnt exist

cause idk tactician has something going for it

its an unkillable summon

cant be that hard to find some usecase

lessing usecase is just

[cedar hound]

[sly pivot]

really really rare

like

[cedar hound]

None?

[sly pivot]

s3 does no dmg (relative to other male 6*) and the status immune is irrelevant

s2 is...

i think its like 60% dr

77%

its a very high number

but the condition is absolute ass to achieve

needs to block

and the dmg that gets reduced is smth that isnt the thing hes blocking

[cedar hound]

[sly pivot]

so just making use of it is just

really hard

and if u need some tank

to block ranged hits

maybe just use bison/bassline

depending on dmg

[cedar hound]

Yeah
Dreadnought in these days..

[sly pivot]

C tier is like

they can probably do something with some effort

hellagur is close to D

than id like to admit

B tier is pretty neat to use

[cedar hound]

Yeah that c is like
Specific niche use case

[sly pivot]

and doesnt really need others to be useable

i think is new toy bias tho

but thorns is quite serviceable

actually whatever

he freaking sucks

he has the niche of anti air sniper

so he fits in c too

but the anti air sniper part is really hard to setup

so yea

[cedar hound]

Lumen there cause there's no male medic?

[sly pivot]

lumen doesnt need help to do stuff

he just does stuff

c tier ops want u to babysit them to do stuff

or like be optimal

c tier ops are really just some wacky combo ops

or some random niche

lee can stunlock TLK

wow

[cedar hound]

[sly pivot]

mtn s3 shift and dps is kinda good

wow

hellagur can uhh

he can kill stuff

🥹

and sorta not die

[cedar hound]

Would you bring hella and zuo in a team tho

[sly pivot]

look it always depends

there might be the rare case where i need hellagur too

🤫

maybe theres this enemy that has no defense

but hits really hard

hellagur can dodge

💪

[cedar hound]

When the last time he's relevant

Cc6?

[sly pivot]

idk maleknights cc

i think cc12

where zane used s1 to lanehold

the dog lane

[nocturne cove]

Why chongyue is C?

[sly pivot]

cause i need to break an arm and a leg to make him do stuff

u know how painful 30s of 1 block is?

[nocturne cove]

But once he up

ik

[sly pivot]

in a situation where im optimisng op count

[nocturne cove]

I have malded about it in help

[sly pivot]

he becomes worthless

[nocturne cove]

And got thrashed by the help dwellers

[sly pivot]

cause i just press exalter skill

also chungus has no healing either

so by law u need lumen attached to him

[nocturne cove]

Any form of other survivability?

Dodge or something?

[sly pivot]

he has dodge on mod1 trait

also this is context in

low op

so when i need to tape a medic and other babysitting tools to make chungus good

he kinda loses value

like lets say he can just use fodder to charge s3 up full

thats still lumen + chungus

compared to exalter who does this alone without medic

i still think

mr chungus is a very awesome qol operator

hes quite braindead

skalter chungus and sleep while he does double 3ks

and his range is quite wide too

usually u can hit 2 lanes with it

well C tier isnt necessarily "bad" operators

just that u need to put more effort into making them work

[scarlet fulcrum]

Having 1 5* on big feesh kinda love it tho

[nocturne cove]

So

[sly pivot]

im afraid mitm is just him

[nocturne cove]

Any op that can't survive without a healer is bad?

[sly pivot]

well in low op

frankly yes

[nocturne cove]

Fair

[nocturne cove]

Is he good? Heard he is meh

[sly pivot]

well they need to pull enough weight without a medic

like hoederer, mlynar, ulp and logos

[nocturne cove]

Ulpi 😭

[sly pivot]

hes like a really strong tactician

[nocturne cove]

Oh?

I just started using mumu

And I'm still not very used to the new archetype

Same goes with summoners

[sly pivot]

mitm kit is just

very well defined

he has this summon

[nocturne cove]

Lemme read it

[sly pivot]

and if u retreat it

[nocturne cove]

Oh go on

[sly pivot]

it summons 4 other summons around it

[nocturne cove]

I see

[sly pivot]

and his skill summons those 4 summons too

thats like 4 bodies

on demand

[nocturne cove]

What their stats?

[sly pivot]

its quite abit too

its like above 2k hp

for sure

[nocturne cove]

Hes like an early staller or something?

[sly pivot]

its like beanstalk on steroid

and less early

and more he just stalls pretty hard

[nocturne cove]

Hmm

I see

[sly pivot]

hes also a vg too

so he can gen dp

if that ever mattered

well its 1925 hp with 250 def

and they can be summoned every 15s

and u can summon them back to back

hes like very good utility

idk how i can explain it without just pulling up a vid

actually i should stop the glaze

mitm clearly belongs in C

🚬

[tidal sedge]

That's better than I thought. The early showcases I saw had them die very fast. I wonder if it was low level Mitm

[sly pivot]

its mod3

also the summon isnt 1925

[pure orchid]

Sry whos mitm

[sly pivot]

thats his wreckage

the summon has higher hp

its like 2500

[tidal sedge]

Interesting

[sly pivot]

but i think the manually retreating to summon the 4 wreckage is

pretty darn good

🙌

u can summon them every 15s

which is

very often

thats like as often as a frd

without pots

[tidal sedge]

Mini Gravels almost

[pure orchid]

Good perspective

[sly pivot]

and thats just spamming the bodies to die

if u keep the main body alive

it stalls even longer

so the idea is u retreat it first, get 4 summons, enemy chews through a summon and reaches main body, breaks mainbody and get 4 more summons

and then u use a frd to stall out the mainbody revive

u can cheese alot of stuff with this

like

he solo stalls SK

whatever ig mitm is C cause hes a vanguard

greatest sin ever

look its amazing how hes already C tho

same tier as aak is no easy feat

ig ethans in c too

😪

i hate tierlists

[spark sinew]

looks bad

[scarlet fulcrum]

Malding rng for low ops, chad

[sly pivot]

hauck still mad i put passenger in C

if anything

he deserves D!

i put him in C out of pity

haha the only arts in the niche

before logos

[scarlet fulcrum]

He deserves leizi mod

[sly pivot]

that doesnt change shit

even without logos hes still there

cause he does no dmg

hes literally ascalon with worse slow uptime

and less dmg

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp the context is low ops i believe

[sly pivot]

and costs 30+ dp

yea

[nocturne cove]

Silverash is A

Based

[tidal sedge]

30+ dp and bad initial sp too

[sly pivot]

look hes still a caster that does arts dmg.... and if u overcome the 30+ dp hurdle....

its enough to land him in C

🥹

he also has some cc in the form of slow

so hes not that bad

but yea

thats enough

im not gonna glaze him further

[nocturne cove]

His design is cool

Idk anything else

Gameplay wise he can be shit

[sly pivot]

he has that

eyja s3 range too

for s3

and s2 is quite long too

he has his upsides

🥹

this is the problem of using every op in the niche.... i cant tell if its utter shit or just that theyre niche

[civic bear]

He just sucky number

Arts burst is like intentionally held back by dev smh

[sly pivot]

double s3 has the same dmg as a degen s3

🥹

is so broken

[analog mirage]

I am in severe need of hand holding whose up for helping

It's joever

[pure orchid]

I wanna sleep

Also i still dk who/what mitm is

[smoky halo]

mitm > vigil ril?

[sly pivot]

lukewarm take

[smoky halo]

no im asking why is he higher

🥹

(i have not read his kit)

(but he is a 5 star so i will assume worse than 6 stars)

[sly pivot]

hes like beanstalk

but on steroids

and we needed more beanstalks in the game anyway

[smoky halo]

how broken is beanstlk

[civic bear]

Very broken

It's frd

But instead of 1 body every 16s

It's 2 body every 16s

Double the value

[sly pivot]

i bet mitm would stall red king with gravel

💪

[civic bear]

Also he deals decent dmg

Iirc he's like almost 2k dps

Which is a bit stupid

[sly pivot]

good thing he got the dps mod!

where it gave him 15% more scale on blocked

or smth like that

🥹

[civic bear]

Dollkeeper no more

[smoky halo]

peak

[civic bear]

Shit is also deceptively tank on s2

2.7k hp 600 defense. That's like guardian tier

[sly pivot]

im afraid mitm is him

he is just that guy

[smoky halo]

wait is it actually s1 the good skill

s2 cycle seems ass 🥹

[civic bear]

No

Why would you want s1

When retreating it does same thing

[smoky halo]

oh

retreating works

i thought it wouldnt

[civic bear]

S1 is just explosion dmg thing

[sly pivot]

s1 is mayer

[civic bear]

S2 is just free

[smoky halo]

ya s1 sucks now

[sly pivot]

s2 u live for duration and explode cause by the time s2 runs out, is gonna die anyways

[civic bear]

Cycle is irrelevant too since like

[sly pivot]

and then it summons the wreck to stall for 2nd s2

[civic bear]

He still gens sp

When summon dies

So like

[smoky halo]

right

[sly pivot]

he probably stalls slower hitting enemies alone

[smoky halo]

so its like 25 sp or smthing since 15s death timer

[weak gazelle]

5* tactician keep winning :ya:

[nocturne cove]

You need to stop glazing so hard

Ong

[civic bear]

You don't understand

[smoky halo]

nop

i approve of this msg

i shall now shill mitm in #help

[full terrace]

Focus your ranged dps on the top side, there are a lot, like a lot of snipers coming from top left boxes. Bottom side you need someone with AoE stuns like Blitz or Cliffheart to stun the flying Dublinn so that they fall to the ground and walk into the holes. Mid plop your Penance or something and isolate her, she will handle the invisible enemies and tank some elemental damage from fireballs. Wisadel can handle Mandra alone with pillars help: Shoot Mandra Phase 1, retreat when she is defeated, redeploy, then shoot her Phase 2.

The fireball enemies I believe spawn on 250/300/350 kills, pay attention to that.

[nocturne cove]

Oh this anni

I heard chongyue is good?

[full terrace]

Yeah he works. Cross damage can reach top side and bottom side while defending mid.

[nocturne cove]

And for those low altitude fuckers?

Cliffheart?

[astral cosmos]

@nocturne cove with what account
there's only one that has her built

[nocturne cove]

Opto something

[astral cosmos]

ah yeah, that's my friend, i'll ask him

[astral cosmos]

she's set

[trail cosmos]

That's very good friend

I'm glad you could do it

[cunning river]

I hear people really don't like the civilians this event

I wonder how bad it could possibly be

[full terrace]

Far from bad, it's supposed to be one of the easiest events because you mostly need to play only with the stage mechanics, but majority of people know only how to point dps at their problems and hate thinking, so there you go.

[cunning river]

Gotcha

I'm gonna be honest I also unga bunga everything, so we'll see lmao

[full terrace]

Lol if you are stuck in any stage, come here I personally am happy to help.

[scarlet mortar]

i mean you can flip that on its head, since you have to play with the stage mechanics it's perceived as one of the harder events that you can't unga through

no particular damage checks also means that kid named finger doesn't save you from thinking

[odd olive]

I know i have no defender and its my fault but god help me i cant lose to highmore again, whwre should i place everyone? I have a ton of artifacts so mizuki hits like 10k a skill

[scarlet mortar]

uh where's your ranged dps

that looks rough

[dapper hedge]

You rly don't need to waste your hope recruiting 3 vgs

[scarlet mortar]

yh that's a slow-ass stage

you don't need vg's at all

[odd olive]

Bad decisions were made

Indeed

[scarlet mortar]

ground ops are kinda ass here unless they're cexas or horn

you just want to outrange highmore

furthermore if that's metastasis on plat then gg

[civic bear]

Plat might carry

But no stun sucks

[odd olive]

Whwre should i put her?

[scarlet mortar]

they can't keep highmore at spawn

also dps elsewhere is....

the stingray + highmore have enough damage to wipe everyone there

[civic bear]

3 units that can DPS flying mobs 😭

[full terrace]

Best you could do is place Platinum to the left of your blue box. What rejection does she have?

E1 might be a bit rough there

[civic bear]

There's no control whatsoever for highmore

[scarlet mortar]

wait

[odd olive]

Hema i think

[scarlet mortar]

did you get the shawl

[civic bear]

Is that camo

[scarlet mortar]

run not dead real?

[civic bear]

Or invis whatever the relic is

[scarlet mortar]

the shawl gives camo

[odd olive]

Umm not sure, is that camo on her? Thought it was a rejection

[scarlet mortar]

looks like camo to me

check your relic list

[civic bear]

He alrdy ingame

[scarlet mortar]

oh wait lmao

[odd olive]

Any way to exit without losing?

Like closing the game

[civic bear]

No

[scarlet mortar]

uhhh deploy eyja2

do not close the game

[odd olive]

Got it

[scarlet mortar]

the shawl should give all ranged ops camo

so you might have a chance with caper + plat dps

[civic bear]

Maybe plat on left facing right? And then eyja mid and use s3 when it can hit highmore on her one tile

Caper thankfully can hit close

[odd olive]

Oh i put eyja1 on s2

[scarlet mortar]

,

[odd olive]

I usually use that one..

[civic bear]

Bruh why would you ever use s2...

[scarlet mortar]

in caper we trust

[odd olive]

Relic that speeds up sp everytime a skill is used on casters

So she like

[full terrace]

Hemo shouldnt be that bad. Use Plat to shoot the jellyfish from afar. If she is within the jellyfish range her aspd is significantly reduced, you want to outrange that.

[odd olive]

Does a s2 really fast

[civic bear]

Well aspd is still the bottleneck

[scarlet mortar]

eyja S3 should handle p1 highmore

[civic bear]

Caper might one cycle highmore tho

[scarlet mortar]

but rip ig

[civic bear]

Just rely on her

🥺

[scarlet mortar]

aspd

atk recovery

erm

[odd olive]

Alright! Tysm, ill try

[civic bear]

Just gotta go for it

[full terrace]

What difficulty is this btw?

[civic bear]

Also need smth to kill right side

[full terrace]

D0/D1 you might have hope 😂

[civic bear]

Maybe canta the only one who can 😂

[scarlet mortar]

canta's on S2 right...

[odd olive]

1

[civic bear]

Doable

[full terrace]

You have hope 👍

[odd olive]

Oh this isnt so bad

[civic bear]

If you can kill highmore that's good

[scarlet mortar]

is highmore shooting at your ranged ops

[odd olive]

No

[scarlet mortar]

yup bro has the shawl

[civic bear]

It's fine to have to redeploy and kill at diff place since you got no control

[scarlet mortar]

winnable ig

[odd olive]

For future who should i bring for stun?

[civic bear]

Anything that hit air

[scarlet mortar]

texas the omertosa

[full terrace]

If you are gonna deploy Eyja in the middle like Ancool suggested, try to position her so that she can help with the right lane as well. Those low-altitude fish are annoying esp since you got no stuns.

[scarlet mortar]

claps highmore low diff

besiegers can also just outrange highmore entirely

[odd olive]

O her entrance hits air?

[scarlet mortar]

so there's no need for bs

[scarlet mortar]

cexas S3

the sword rain hits air

[odd olive]

I coukdnt take omertosa in since this is mizuki monthly

And i dont have her

[scarlet mortar]

which 6*s do you have btw

[civic bear]

5 stars?

[scarlet mortar]

goldenglow aspd steroid is a thing if you happen to get the relics for it

[full terrace]

Goldenglow is pretty good, raise her.

[scarlet mortar]

oh yh cliffheart's good in IS3

[odd olive]

Oo i thought i wouldnt need to since i had eyja for now, or at least not as priority

[scarlet mortar]

welfare ranged stun

[civic bear]

Ye cliff e1 might be considerable

[scarlet mortar]

if you have free hope it's good to nab her on the way

[civic bear]

Just e1 lvl 1 enough

Just to get s2

[odd olive]

Ahh i take it gladiia doesnt stun like that?

[civic bear]

Ye

[odd olive]

Ill upgrade cliff heart then!

[scarlet mortar]

gladiia only pulls or binds (S3)

[odd olive]

Should i level her skills at all?

[civic bear]

Not really. It stuns even at sl1

And you don't exactly care bout the pull

[scarlet mortar]

if you're drafting specifically for the stun you only need the skill itself

SL7 for quick bootup or sth

[civic bear]

Holdip

A tually

[scarlet mortar]

or as high as your spare mats allow

[civic bear]

Maybe

Liskarm is better

[scarlet mortar]

liskarm's RNG stun though

[civic bear]

Yeah but it's less waste

[scarlet mortar]

i meange

E1L1 isn't a lot...

[odd olive]

Highmores been vanquished

Sweet revenge

[civic bear]

You should just borrow texalt if playing normal. Monthly squad doesn't need clear does it?

[scarlet mortar]

yh you just need to hit f3

[odd olive]

Ah no it doesnt haha, i guess i got too into it

[scarlet mortar]

or f5 for all the dialogues

[odd olive]

Really? I thought wisadel was better

[scarlet mortar]

IS3 has buncha ranged mobs

[civic bear]

Texalt carries a bit better

Since DPS you can compensate

But reliable stun is harder

[sly pivot]

is okay deploy u official

🫵

[scarlet mortar]

ig wis is ok at d1 or sth where you can bring normal ops to deal with normal stuff

and wait for 💥

below d4 there's no 3* tax 🥹

[odd olive]

Got it! So like this?

[scarlet mortar]

yh

[sly pivot]

i heard gg is better

for low d

🤫

[scarlet mortar]

boo

[civic bear]

ye and then u just stun all your problems away

[scarlet mortar]

it's not like she sucks but...

[sly pivot]

deniers in shambles

get out

👉 🚪

[scarlet mortar]

💢 🫵

[odd olive]

So which skills for texalter?

Pre and post promotion

[civic bear]

23

[scarlet mortar]

S3 whenever you see a stingray or multiple mobs, S2 in rare cases for elites

S1 isn't real

[full terrace]

Pre-promotion 2. Post-promotion you swap around 2-3 depending on the stage but generally you use S3 for the stun.

The low-altitude fish, if you drop Texas at them above a hole, they instantly fell into the hole.

[scarlet mortar]

funny enough you don't have to wait

they path themselves down the hole anw

[sly pivot]

build krooster

👍

knowers know!

those who nose

[scarlet mortar]

didn't see them having kroos2

[sly pivot]

u can unlock it tho

😪

just finish IW

fodder event

[civic bear]

didnt u know

it takes

a week

to unlock a new event or smth

[sly pivot]

whar

🥹

thats wild

maybe he hasnt unlocked it yet

[scarlet mortar]

yh the crystal thingy only replenishes weekly

[sly pivot]

dont make assumptions

🤫

[civic bear]

they have gladiia so they used one

who knows what else

[odd olive]

I used one for tequila!

[sly pivot]

gyat damn

[odd olive]

But i still have one left i believe

The gladiia one replenished

[sly pivot]

unlock IW

🫵

and ull have unlocked all the good welfares

[odd olive]

Invitation to wine right?

[sly pivot]

yessir

[odd olive]

And thats for kroos2?

[sly pivot]

yessir

[odd olive]

Whats her role?

[civic bear]

marksman sniper

[sly pivot]

shes a sniper that shoots fast

[civic bear]

she can mini stun

[sly pivot]

use her as stun bot for is3

[civic bear]

so shes good for is3 since it deals with both air enemies and stun to make em fall

[odd olive]

Ahh okay

[civic bear]

if you can get her then focs on her instead of cliff

[odd olive]

I still have a key, should i get anyone else?

[elfin dome]

he-ex-7 medal is killing me

[full terrace]

What ops do you have?

[elfin dome]

not too many levelled

[full terrace]

Ah you have Wis+Logos, they'll take care of the etc stuff and the mini boss. Your problem is just the opening. Borrow Muelsyse she will take care of your opening.

[elfin dome]

nice

[full terrace]

Lemme see hmm

Take Shu along

Mumu first, copy Shu, then deploy the real Shu

@elfin dome open like this #strategy message

Shu instead of Saria

After that opening just play normally ignoring all boulders and civilians

You'll get the Trimmed Medal

Assuming your Shu didnt die*

[elfin dome]

can I friend you for mumu

[full terrace]

I dont have Mumu 😅

Maybe you ask in #help

[elfin dome]

ah man

hopefully my shu is levelled enough to survive

[full terrace]

Should be no prob

Use her S1 for auto-heal

[elfin dome]

would moduleless be good enough

for mumu

s3m3 no module

[full terrace]

Yeah should be no prob

[full terrace]

I think a max E1 Shu is still better than E2 Saria coz of the 10% Sanctuary.

Also the little bit of grass healing

[odd olive]

Just got kroosalter, didnt realize the personal letters maxed out their potential, i should do that for gladiia too

So i just need to e1 her?

[full terrace]

Congrats

[elfin dome]

love rice fields

[full terrace]

E2 has higher stun chance, but if you dont have the mats E1 first is fine.

Eh rice field

[full terrace]

I sure do, I love everything about Shu.

[odd olive]

Should i still promote cliffheart too? Or 1 stunner is good

[full terrace]

If you using Krooster skip Cliffheart

[glass monolith]

Does cliff even stuns?

[civic bear]

technically spec ticket wasted with ur current team so

yes she does on s2

[full terrace]

Ye. One of kyostin's anni guides used cliffheart for the stun.

I just used Blitz back then.

[elfin dome]

got a few ops at the end of the list for trust, does this look good?

[full terrace]

One more medic just in case maybe

Should be good otherwise

[elfin dome]

hrmm

does it matter of the defender on left side dies?

struggling to find one that can sustain

[full terrace]

Thats why I said extra Medic 😂

And heal the Defender

[full terrace]

Also yes it matters

Left Defender dies = boulders break the planks = no medal

Both boulder tanks cannot die if you want the medal

[elfin dome]

dp issues :(

I'll give it another go

otherwise I'll go to the mines with some op to get shu levels because I want this god damn medal set

place the medic in the little high ground at the top left?

[full terrace]

Dont you have Myrtle there? Deploy her after Shu a bit

And generate DP

Also bring Plume and Vigna if you have them, they can tank a boulder, and then when you retreat them, they return all DP

[elfin dome]

I took her off can't remember what for but will see if that works

Yeah I've been deploying them to facetank boulders while I charge dp

[full terrace]

Just ran you a quick Shu simulation (maxed one). She just sit there forever HP never even touch 80%. I guess you could raise her level a bit if she is not sustaining.

[elfin dome]

yeah I think she needs levels

lemme do a quick test without mumu and borrow a friend's maxed shu to see the difference

[full terrace]

Early wave might leak but good luck.

[celest bluff]

Use the 2 star Yato

[elfin dome]

aye just gonna test the shu sustain so as long as I don't immediately fail with any leak it'll be fine for that purpose

[celest bluff]

Gravel

[full terrace]

Shu is one of the best Defenders ingame right now, if not the best one. 712 Defense with 10~15% Sanctuary that's like ~1000 Def roughly depending on the enemy's atk. If enemy's atk is below 712 they basically tickle her, and if their atk is above 712 they eat Sanctuary.

If she cant tank, hardly any Defenders can

[celest bluff]

Gravel on skill can actually tank rock

[elfin dome]

ye I been using her to tank a few boulders

the boulders are generally fine actually, it's surviving the waves

for example if I place shu and a healer down that healer dies incredibly fast

[celest bluff]

How about like

Not placing the medic places where they won't get shot

[full terrace]

Shu first right. Then Medic, then someone 2 tiles away from the Medic to auto-bait enemies' attacks from your Medic.

Thats what I did on my alt

My alt used a Lv50 E0 Mulberry to heal and that worked just fine.

[elfin dome]

where did you place them

[full terrace]

Lemme draw brb