strategy

[vernal lion]

the true boss of H8-4 is the civis

[topaz fog]

DP goes brr

[vernal lion]

can't even stall, because after killing phase 2, another wave of civilian just comes out

and if you don't block the fireball, you're fucked

[topaz fog]

atleast it was better than the early stampede in h-12-4 ngl.. in there, like 20-24 sarkaz greatswordsman come without warninh

[topaz fog]

real. it becomes easy if u have yalter and texalter

i need silverash..... real quick... he is the most needed operator for me alongwith mlynar and logos.. rest standard characters can wait

[somber falcon]

Texalt and yato ain't gonna help with civs on h8-4

[topaz fog]

i have them max pot : ) and i cleared h-8-4 with them

[full terrace]

Nowadays we got so many options for that. I used Nightingale + Specter in my initial clear.

[topaz fog]

see

[topaz fog]

can u tell how tf am i suppose to deal with 20-25 sarkaztic enemies in h-12-4 initial wave...

i am using texalter and mlynar.. still its leaking

[full terrace]

You have Ines. She handles that just fine.

Ines and Ela are ideal.

[civic bear]

mlynar opens that stage pretty easy

[full terrace]

Yeah and Mlynar

[vernal lion]

h12-4 is very much about DP issue,
use them more wisely

high cost op is not suitable

[topaz fog]

i cant do it even with ines s2m1

[full terrace]

It's the DP limit and the early archer enemies that reduce DP. Not a massive issue anyway.

[topaz fog]

it is.. for me.

[somber falcon]

Literally just tex or yato them

It's the fitting place to use those two

[civic bear]

mlynar immediately deploy

then charge his skill

[full terrace]

Mlynar also destroys that one box if you position him correctly

Timesaver

[civic bear]

then use his skill at a decent enough time

and watch him kill all mobs of the wave 1

buys enough time for every other ops

[topaz fog]

wow... so easy

[full terrace]

😂

[topaz fog]

after a sec.. everything ended.. broo even finishing early phase is tough.. no doubt. devs were smoking copium while designing this sh*t

[civic bear]

think of

the archer

as DP

[vernal lion]

h12-4 opening was just a math of deployment

[ashen knoll]

SO CLOSEEEEE

[full terrace]

Mlynar solo opens. Ines generates DP while being Invisible preventing Archer from reducing DP, also her first hit binds everything buying you enough time to generate DP and deploy ops. Ela just kills everything right off the bat especially with her bombs.

[topaz fog]

Damnn.. i see

[vernal lion]

yea, it's not always that you need to deploy vg first

[full terrace]

Ah this is just skill timing my brother. Try again but time your skills better.

[civic bear]

you could if they refund fast

[full terrace]

And bombs timing actually.

[vernal lion]

I saw 3 minutes Wis

nice lol

[ashen knoll]

That's cuz...

Well i suck

[topaz fog]

YOOOOOOO

i somehow survived the stampede..

[civic bear]

it really isnt hard

its just knowing what the problem is

[topaz fog]

why do i feel h-12-4 is doable by me... but h-13-2 feels more brain juice consuming. like i just cleared it.. i just forgot to bring a medic.. ill soon do it

[full terrace]

I thought you cleared H12-4 earlier?

[topaz fog]

im doing it again for fun

[full terrace]

I see

[topaz fog]

for comparing with h-13 stages. now its easy for me

[full terrace]

I dont even remember what H13-2 is honestly, prob some easy stage.

[topaz fog]

it was not....lemme share

[topaz fog]

this one

[full terrace]

Yeah thats an easy one

[civic bear]

that stage like the easiest h13 stage

[topaz fog]

it was not.. for me..

[civic bear]

it got bunch of enemies at spawn but they all chilling on the left

so you ignore it at start

focus on the right

then start building to the left

[topaz fog]

i dont have a healing to heal mlynar on left

eyja has the range as shown by the guides

my ptilo/ng has smaller range

and cant reach mlynar so he dies

[civic bear]

you didnt deploy mlynar right in the middle of the enemies on the left right

[full terrace]

Seems like he did

[civic bear]

deploy him just by the side

so it only gets hit by 2 enemies

abuse his range bro

[topaz fog]

ahhh i see..... those guide makes... are really... odd..

wait lemme retry and show

[full terrace]

Ah dont follow guides 100%

[civic bear]

i mean

[full terrace]

Also if you really need healing, can just plop Saria near Mlynar to heal

[civic bear]

guides simply just suggest and recommend you

but if you face a problem

[full terrace]

Or borrow Shu and heals everyone

[civic bear]

you need to solve it

[topaz fog]

not enough dp

[civic bear]

always ask yourself. why did i fail

[topaz fog]

im already borrowing mlynar.

[civic bear]

i dont have enough dp? how can i get enough dp? do i bring more vanguard? does that work? or maybe, i need to not deploy too many operators

[topaz fog]

even ines and myrtle is not enough ig

[civic bear]

every issue can be boiled down

well if those two arent enough for some reason

maybe the issue is

you are deploying too much ops that are useless

and by useless doesnt mean in the stage

as in at that current time

[full terrace]

It's an easy one bro, try again. If you are stuck for a week come back here I'll handhold you.

[civic bear]

ie whats the point of deploying eyja if theres barely any enemies on the right side right now

when you can deploy eyja later

[topaz fog]

what more do i need

[civic bear]

nothing

its not op problem

its for the lack of betterwords skill problem 😔

[full terrace]

Savage 😂

[full terrace]

If you want to cheese it, borrow Wis instead of Mlynar. She has Camouflage she wont be hit by anything, and her Revenant Shadows are quite sturdy.

Problem solved.

[vernal lion]

it's not "not enough", it's just not right time to deploy them
if you become familiar with rarity abuse, the game dev will just go on making more stages with strict mechanism

[topaz fog]

bruh

[topaz fog]

yeah that makes sense..

[civic bear]

the stage intended play is

[celest bluff]

who the fuck use Pallas

[civic bear]

setup 4 ops that requires min help

and then immediately spam that carts

and destroy the tower on the left

if you get overwhelmed its because enemy just keep respawning

this is just chapter mechanic

[topaz fog]

yeah.. lemme see if i can do it.. i am retrying

[civic bear]

just use eyja s3

eyja s2 sucks

[topaz fog]

yeah.. this is where i am failing..

[civic bear]

gladiia instead of pallas there works

[topaz fog]

ah ok... i was now able to do haha.. but yeah my pallas is max... but yeah.. its ok

[civic bear]

also ulpi should be on gavial place since the threats comes from the right

if it works it works then

all the same you just want laneholder

[topaz fog]

still i leaked.. some haha

im trying it again

[near folio]

How is H13 stages? @topaz fog

[topaz fog]

welll...... i think u have dr strange eyes..

how tf can u guess correct strategies

😭 bro foresaw

[topaz fog]

easier than h-12 tbh

[full terrace]

You just need to familiarize yourself with the ops really. It'll come naturally to you.

[topaz fog]

real... it comes with practice : )... and Ancool has lot of practice.. i even saw his yt channel. saw the vid where he did h-12-4 with 5 guards : )

bro lives 10 parallel universe ahead

[full terrace]

More than a lot of practice actually, but yes he is a skilled player.

Now go try H13-3. Thats a fun one before the climax at H13-4.

[topaz fog]

yeah : )

[full terrace]

H13-3 reminds me of that brute force enjoyer guy

Was funny back then.

[topaz fog]

lets see if i can weis adel it

[full terrace]

You can but she doesnt solve every problem in there

I tried the rush/no stall strat with Wisadel back then, and it worked, she is certainly overpowered.

[topaz fog]

i saw Kyo, his strategy i liked. he used ifrit on boss. luckily my ifrit is build with the module

the boss has res and ifrit can shread the res

[full terrace]

I also tried no blocker/Defenders strat on the boss and it worked as long as you time your Wisadel correctly #strategy message. If you wanna try that go ahead.

[topaz fog]

ohk : )

[topaz fog]

predict... will i win or loose

[near folio]

Wait I might be able to do it now

Im so close to optimising the skill timings

[near folio]

Looks solid

[celest bluff]

use Reedic on chapter 13

[topaz fog]

done.... time for the impossible stage.. guys

[near folio]

Killing Damatzi was a success

But now I'll have to somehow kill it even faster

[topaz fog]

never give up attitude

[topaz fog]

u are using silverash? in place of mlynar?

[near folio]

WTFFFF

[near folio]

Im trying to clear it without using overpowered ops

Jessicat's bomb explodes when it hits a high ground tile right?

[noble arrow]

I highly suggest bringing someone who can nuke the Triblies

[near folio]

So as long as I use Texas to catch the Trilby Asher after he teleports through Saria he will still get hit by both SA and Jessicat's bomb?

[near folio]

SA kills the first two Trilbies with the Damatzi

The problem is the third one that will pass through Saria

[noble arrow]

Bring another ground unit

[near folio]

Apparently they oneshotted Texas

I initially wanted to use texas to bait it

[noble arrow]

Ah

[near folio]

But I think I'll just use Texas to splitbox him back into Saria tile

So Jessicat's shield bomb can hit him

I think that's how it works

The more I play H12-4 the more impossible I feel the victoriaknights run will be

Maybe it's a Vina stage

Ngl

[scarlet mortar]

ancool's cooking guard 4op with vina

it's gonna be a vina stage

[near folio]

Actually pretty goated

The lions can bait the damatzi snipe cant they?

The only problem is the aoe when damatzi uses her drone skill

That one's gonna take some micro to figure out when to pull it out

[weak gazelle]

remember when i mald heavyrain s2 to nerf damatzi drone

[civic bear]

victorian alrdy did it bro

8 ops

[weak gazelle]

when map me forced to stall strat :icant:

[civic bear]

should be 7 ops fairly easy

6 ops with vina for sure

5 maybe

[topaz fog]

does it work? i have max level built heavyrain with mod and s2m3?

[weak gazelle]

yeah it work
as s2 description say
it just you need a good timing

[topaz fog]

i see...

i was initially planning to use AH team for h-12-4 once.. but i realised it needed spalter mod 3 haha... i dont have the mod.. so its 3 levels

[weak gazelle]

oh right i have valarqvin
should be faster to kill damatzi :ya:

[topaz fog]

noice : ). try

[vernal lion]

remember that Damazti burst is target locking, so you need to activate it before it's done with locking targets

[topaz fog]

ah ok. i see

[weak gazelle]

i hate stall strat thats why didnt finish h12-3/4 yet

[civic bear]

just burst then

smh

[topaz fog]

try h13-4...

[weak gazelle]

remember i have tool for necrosis
its a win

[civic bear]

burst 50% hp in 9.1s

[topaz fog]

logoat

[weak gazelle]

nyahahaha
no, valarq enough

[topaz fog]

u mean mini arturia?

[weak gazelle]

usually go true dmg from amiya/cliff but for this kind of boss but too lazy dealing with their gimmick

[near folio]

Finally, it's over

[weak gazelle]

yeah
2k ele bar wont be that hard to break

[near folio]

All this just to kill that last Trilby

[topaz fog]

yo blemi

[weak gazelle]

i just not aware if ele bar got affected by base stat or nah

[vernal lion]

don't know if you can keep surtr alive in here

[scarlet mortar]

bosses have 2k, everything else has 1k

[weak gazelle]

i know that
let say our ops deal 100 ele dmg
the bar will reduce exactly 100 or nah?

[vernal lion]

boss doesn't have ele resist, so 100 yea

E-RES stat = 0

[weak gazelle]

ohh it count to different code (ele resist)
i see

[vernal lion]

but, remember that source of damage effect the amount of ele dmg you can deal on enemy

[weak gazelle]

see if HG will do that in the future?
so far necrosis is top notch one to have

[vernal lion]

example, for Logos, it's arts dmg that can inflict ele dmg based on atk, so if enemy has high RES, it will reduce the ele dmg

[civic bear]

high res is whatever

its damage reduction

[vernal lion]

yea

[weak gazelle]

ohh so enemy base stat still count

[foggy grove]

logos is based on dmg

[turbid badge]

dang

[foggy grove]

ritualist like val based on her atk doesn't care about enemy stats

[void wasp]

Logos applies it even if enemy is high RES thoug (lets thank whoever came up with idea of 10 RES reduction talent and +300% ATK up on a range increase skill)

[turbid badge]

primal caster and delta mods so far getting pooped on

oh wait ela exists

:p

[void wasp]

Phonor0 exception, she deal fixed necro damage, and a bit of amplification of elemental damage

[weak gazelle]

man... so dmg and atk are coded differently for final ele dmg :icant:

[topaz fog]

tbh ines s2m3 and mlynar s3m3 is enough to stall first 27 enemies in h-12-4.. i beat it multiple times haha

[scarlet mortar]

enemy stats matter when the mod says "deal gauge damage based on damage dealt"

which is the case for most mods rn

[weak gazelle]

thanks
at least i can tell the difference now

[scarlet mortar]

ritualists deal gauge damage based on their atk directly, so enemy stats don't matter

[void wasp]

Vivi's mod was reverse version compared to Eben/Logos'

[turbid badge]

don't forget ifrit's burn module better comparison since there both burn anyways

[vernal lion]

her 2nd mod is very good for s3

lower the enemy RES a lot

[void wasp]

enemy HP matter, as it will determine if necro even usable if enemy has new numbers of high even la creature || || can nuke them down

[weak gazelle]

so +atk in theory better than +dmg for ele proc

[scarlet mortar]

not what we were talking abt

[void wasp]

ah yes, i was thinking about it, and then i got hit by "bro it just does elemetal damage if they inflicted with 10 seconds uptime -20 RES debuff" its not like Ifrit's RES shred gets improved by that

[turbid badge]

for allies we only have burn and necrosis, man I honestly forget that one ritualistexists, kinda bad I don't even remember his name wait nvm (bobbing)

[void wasp]

uh... there is another Primal caster with fire damage?

[turbid badge]

yea

wait

misinfo

[void wasp]

Warmy is the fire elemental caster

[turbid badge]

he's a ritualist

yeah really forgetful

[vernal lion]

male primal caster tho

[void wasp]

necro and fire elemental doesn't stack is the reason i kinda forgot she was there until Ifrit module

[vernal lion]

diamante

[void wasp]

Diamante nercrosis, also in red cert shop

[vernal lion]

only s1 can inflict necrosis

all primal casters and ritualist supporters will get mod that can inflict ele dmg on normal attack, surely

[void wasp]

S2 better, again its just disappointing like Varaqvin, they don't get targeting for necro damage (like i expected targeting for Valarqvin S1 atleast, not only they didn't give her 3rd charge and all...)

[weak gazelle]

huh?
is -res from burn proc different from normal -res in term of dmg formula?

[vernal lion]

it's -20 res, flat stat

[vernal lion]

oh it's 20

[weak gazelle]

or just stack normally with other -res?

[void wasp]

i'm curious how it works with Ifrit S3 and 40% RES shred talent, maybe then i will reconsider that module

[foggy grove]

stack normally

added to all flat res

[weak gazelle]

oh i see

[topaz fog]

is saria s1 worth m3? or s2 or s3?

[vernal lion]

I would say m9, but for you just s1 or s2

[topaz fog]

got it : )

[vernal lion]

it's lower the sp needed

[void wasp]

depends on usecase, i'd S3M3, and only use her if i want to see Ebenholz oneshoot a nuisance boss upon spawn

[topaz fog]

i basically need a source of healing

[void wasp]

best medic is Perfumer, you can deploy her any ranged tile, and she heals like +30 HPs offskill and S2M3 mod3 goes about +110 HPs regen

or maybe i'm wrong, idk i use her in IS

[topaz fog]

i got modded ptilo and ng

[void wasp]

Ptilo should work just fine, if you need single target healing then there is Gavial to make your defender stall elite mobs, or Sussuro S2

i need to stop before someone call me Silvergun

[vernal lion]

I mean depending on each ppl, we have different recommendations so just take it as reference as you want for you

[topaz fog]

i mean i got lot of them built..

[vernal lion]

yes, I can see you quite got enough of what you need

[void wasp]

oh boy... my Lumen still e0lv1, because of my starting date, i missed his debue event and rerun came far after i build Whispy

[full terrace]

Hmm I think there might be a bug with Ulpi in 10-16. Whenever I deactivate his skill he instantly retreated himself.

[topaz fog]

lumen is niche... idk why do i build him.. idk

[void wasp]

status removal

[weak gazelle]

lumen cleanse its pitiful

[topaz fog]

very very niche

[vernal lion]

even if it's not status remove, you can just slap s3m3 with modY, big healing fr

[weak gazelle]

honestly lessing cleanse work better than lumen cleanse

[turbid badge]

What's the cd on lessing cleanse

[void wasp]

xD i thought about that and gave up because... ,i hate dreadnoughts

[weak gazelle]

?

its tied to skill
lumen being 6 time each skill is uh...

or is it 5? idr but still

[turbid badge]

wtfart why did I think it was talent

[void wasp]

me: obtains Black Tulip so anytime i don't activate skill up to 60 seconds my ops get ATK
my Whiperain S2M3:

suffering from success

[weak gazelle]

it still work no?

[topaz fog]

can i know one thing..... how is initial DP limit calculated in the civilian stages?

[weak gazelle]

that just skill activation, after that whisp atk still count as normal atk

[turbid badge]

the being immune to negative statuses is kinda wack though, remember some wierd status effects still apply like degen disarm lul

[void wasp]

:) works, i got her max pot now she heals like 110 HPs on everyone that happens to have status resist in her range along with her normal heal

[void wasp]

ch14 boss and Eblana' control effects work different though? (like you need your ops to break something and ragequit game after ch14 boss covers whole map)

[weak gazelle]

i have not much knowledge about cleanse work either
maybe tlk is best place to test that

[vernal lion]

it's not even status effect, it's smth different in their ability

[void wasp]

i'm still shocked Laios can scream at Patriot for 10 seconds and Patriot wait until him to shut up before stabbing him with his quadruple strike

we even got emote of him appearently

[full terrace]

That Adverse 10-16's stage mechanic halves every operator's HP upon deployment. Ulpianus's S3 makes him lose 50% HP upon skill usage, and then 50% more when he deactivates his skill.

Annoying bug

[void wasp]

they shadownerfed Ulphanius

[full terrace]

Ikr 😂

[vernal lion]

read the stage description

adverse one

[full terrace]

No, you read what I just said.

[void wasp]

🤣 yea, that explains, potato code fixing the game by making broken unit unusable

[vernal lion]

it's exactly 50% hp

[full terrace]

Wonder how did they code him before? I'm so afraid of using him in IS4 now

[weak gazelle]

ohh that one is fixed hp loss right?

[vernal lion]

so 2 deploy = 100%

[full terrace]

Injury Trigger = he kills himself

[void wasp]

same thoughts, what if he lost 70% HP on each use of skill

oh its 60% ._.

[full terrace]

That is what I just said Jesus Christ #strategy message. People said EN players have reading issue, I didnt believe it at first. Now I do.

[weak gazelle]

tp = redeploy
yeah its HG thing don't sweat it too much

[vernal lion]

lose 60% = remaining 40%

nice lol

[topaz fog]

sweet....

damn.

[weak gazelle]

shit my brain go malfunction already

[vernal lion]

remember that we have 2 bosses that can redeploy our op

[scarlet mortar]

wait was that only fixed in IS

ripbozo

CN had a patch that removed his S3 interaction with injury trigger, idk whether that's in global yet and/or it's only been patched for IS4

[full terrace]

They fixed this in IS? 😲

[lapis hornet]

ulpi fell off?

[vernal lion]

using Ulpi s3 in Babel belike:

[scarlet mortar]

i mean the sweats definitely complained

[full terrace]

Praise the lord if they did fix it, coz I'm not using him in IS if he kills himself with injury trigger

[weak gazelle]

nah, ulpi is not the angle
hoederer is :ya:

[scarlet mortar]

https://x.com/AK_CN_Shitpost/status/1810248018073194614

AK_CN_InfoDump (@AK_CN_Shitpost) on X

New patch fixing Ulpianus Skill 3 issues:

Integrated strategies - HP loss/Frozen after deployment effects will only trigger once before unit exit the battlefield

SSS - Ulpianus will not lose tactical equipment after using skill 3

Twitter · Jul 8, 2024, 9:42 AM

[full terrace]

Ohh nice

[scarlet mortar]

yh that was one of the more recent patches

[full terrace]

Still didnt fix 10-16 🤣

[scarlet mortar]

[vernal lion]

[full terrace]

Lmfao annoying bug

[scarlet mortar]

shadowrealmed

[dapper hedge]

Idt that's bug lol

[scarlet mortar]

you could classify it as one

since if those were banned tiles he just wouldn't jump

[late bane]

If the tile not deployable he returns to the first spot

[full terrace]

Thats a bug. He wanna deploy himself to that tile, that tile is deployable but you need to create a chain for it to be deployable. Since there is no chain, he cannot deploy himself to that tile.

[late bane]

He just jumps

So its a bug

[near folio]

I feel dumb after watching all the videos about H12-4 online

Didnt know the bottom two Damatzi all clustered on one tile near the end

[vernal lion]

alright,
who tf coded this mf to be able to "swallow" my whole harvester hub huh?

good thing I took back 1 crystal

[stiff beacon]

gaming

[scarlet mortar]

he hungy

[near folio]

https://youtu.be/b2IBUpVAq10?si=GzNGRY7H59fz92lS The results after all the attempts

[lapis hornet]

where's your green name

[full terrace]

@regal frost alt spent 60 pulls got Goldenglow. Side Story and Intermezzi untouched except for Under Tides normal stages. Annihilation untouched except the 3 newbie ones. ISes untouched. RA untouched. Roughly 3 weeks active play. Wish I got that kind of luck on my main account.

Think it might be stronger than your alt account now? 😅

[vernal lion]

reducing hit rate is similar to dodge,
but if we have both 2 sources of reducing enemy hit rate and buffing our dodge rate,
that means we will have 2 chances of dodging enemy attack

[near folio]

3 weeks of active play and already 3 E2, that's fast

[full terrace]

Suraj is faster. He got 4 or 5 E2 already.

But then again, he did farm ISes

Alt account just beat Manfred. Getting closer to Chapter 13 now.

[lapis hornet]

too dalao

[scarlet mortar]

once i'm done with studies this term i'll probs make a new account for speedrunning

it's pretty fun re-experiencing the early days of having fuckall, only now with all my knowledge

[full terrace]

It is indeed fun

I mean, there is nothing else to do in our main accounts anyway

[civic bear]

you guys have main account damn

[glass monolith]

You guys have alt accounts

[vernal lion]

you guys have accounts

[subtle agate]

you guys have

[noble hollow]

Gng is it worth trying for gg on the current banner or is it better to save

[full terrace]

It's better to save for Lappland alter.

My alt has plenty resources so I go for both. Dont pull on current banner, it's a bad banner.

[noble hollow]

Idk why I sent in strategy ngl

But thank you

[full terrace]

I dont mind people asking in strat, just that, this channel has lower activities people might not answer your question promptly

Better ask in #help instant answer

[noble hollow]

Don’t really wanna ask in help rn since there’s a guy whining

[rocky kelp]

lol

[full terrace]

Hahahaha I know right, that one is kinda rude 🤣

[full terrace]

You dont need to fight Steam Knight to enter Chapter 12 😲

Save me a bit of time.

[void wasp]

get Ulphanius killed any% world record

[void wasp]

you technically fight (and leak) Steam Knight on that 0 sanity stage, and actual battle stage is optional for some reason

[full terrace]

No I think it has something to do with the lore. ||The Last Steam Knight (Charles Lynch) was trapped inside the Mausoleum for 4 years, he lost his sanity there because of the betrayal of his own people. With the little consciousness he has left, he guards the Sighs of Kings (Vina's Sword). When Siege and Allerdale went to retrieve the sword, they discovered the tragedy and the conspiracy done by the Victorian nobles. When Siege took the sword, it woke the Steam Knight up, and he attacked them. Allerdale volunteered to stay behind so that Siege could escape the Mausoleum. The Steam Knight fight is assumed to be fought inside the Mausoleum, which is kind of a side story branching out from the Main Story conflict between the Military Commission, Victorian nobles, and the Dublinn led by Reed's sister, Eblana.||

[narrow pendant]

[north plank]

Is there any good strats for annihilation stages

[glass monolith]

Depends on stage

[rocky kelp]

all of then are different but I would say like 50% or more can just be cleared by having like 2-3 good afk skills with blockers and a medic

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5f7aI3HOrE

[pure orchid]

This is what life is about

[near folio]

If only I HAD GG

Damn I have to pull either one of them for victoriaknights

Either Vina or GG

Hard decisions

[sly drift]

Qiubai module decent?

[full terrace]

10% Attack and 5% more Arts damage it's a good module. It shines when you use her for Qui Lon, it speeds things up a bit.

[sly drift]

Who even the hell is quilon

[civic bear]

Is5 ed4

[vernal lion]

hope the enhanced ed4 won't be so brutal

[narrow pendant]

Youre what life is about

[pure orchid]

Could say the same for you

[noble hollow]

Dude feels like a dreadnaught from 40k

Off topic but I can’t help myself 😭

[sly pivot]

i remembered to finish this... 🥹

i kinda forgot..

gladiia is honestly the worst operator of all time

i cannot in good faith recommend her anymore after seeing her do actually nothing and fold to a breeze

just start running medic + ulp man... shes so bad

[full terrace]

@pure orchid qyurii you here?

[pure orchid]

Kinda yeah

What's up flan

[full terrace]

Can I borrow your Ling for my alt

Chapter 12 DP limit is so annoying

Imma just cheese it with Ling dragons

[pure orchid]

Oh lol

Gimme da id

[full terrace]

Lemme add you instead

Qyurii right

[pure orchid]

Oh yeah

that works too

[full terrace]

Yep there is only one Qyurii in the world, aint need no ID numbers

[civic bear]

Sounds like ur just bad

[sly pivot]

bro she died to 2 puddles

is fricking crazy

[pure orchid]

I can imagine there's also only one Arflanyr

[civic bear]

Sounds like ur just bad

[full terrace]

It's a fully customized name, from scratch, yeah there is only one me 😂

[pure orchid]

Your alt name

I see the vision

[sly pivot]

and walter shu = spalter skadi too

this is truly the stage of all time

[pure orchid]

Added btw

[full terrace]

Ah they are twin, created almost 10 years ago 🤣

[full terrace]

Aight thanks 💗

[sly pivot]

i cant even fricking redeploy in time either cause of welfare tax

had to change the entire strat just for that

where u just burst damazti down to 3rd clone as fast as possible to get gladiia down infront

the strats bottleneck is just optimising gladiia useage

is fucked up..

[scarlet fulcrum]

I missed male era

[turbid badge]

Oh gosh

scary stage

Found a gg s2 cheatcode

infinite drones counter coccoon

[near folio]

Its H12-4 after all

[jovial nest]

anyone wanna help me with maffs?
So, this specific effect, I want to give to Surtr. Perfect for her.
But I have the option to give it either more (ATK+30%), (ASPD+30), or (ATK+15%, ASPD+15)

which would be the best deal?

[civic bear]

aspd

[jovial nest]

ASPD +30?

[civic bear]

what effect is this from again

[jovial nest]

food from RA2

[remote perch]

Provisions

[jovial nest]

permanent food buff

[civic bear]

does said food buff base stat?

if yes then the atk+aspd one

[jovial nest]

hybrid huh

[civic bear]

id assume it is

aspd is just straight +x% dps increase

if it affect base stat then the other two are +30% regardless. while atk+aspd would be 1.3x1.3 so 32~%

[jovial nest]

ah

makes sense. I've thought about mixed effects being a better effect

like with buffs and debuffs

[civic bear]

if its additive like buffing with warfarinand the likes

then aspd 30 is better

[jovial nest]

hmmm

lemme ask someone

[civic bear]

can you test it?

just check surtr before and after skill atk stat

[civic bear]

i meant 1.15 x 1.15 = 1.3225 so 32~%

well if unsure cant go wrong with aspd

[jovial nest]

resources are a bit thin but lemme ask someone who isn;t

[civic bear]

2% diff is whatever

[remote perch]

do you specifically need the that same food buff?

[jovial nest]

there's only a few "perma" provisions

and Surtr's is a shoe-in perfect one for that effect

[jovial nest]

ok i found out a potential way to do this without waste

wait a bit

[remote perch]

No food

[jovial nest]

I need to show Surtr stats with no provisions

since RA2 gives passives

[remote perch]

Food

[civic bear]

how much is said food buff

[jovial nest]

I'll do it myself

you didn't have to activate S3

[remote perch]

40%
Its the better version of the food

[civic bear]

736*4.7

so its not base stat

additive

aspd better

[jovial nest]

so +30 ASPD wins

thanks

Question

.....if it's Wisadel

+30% ATK?

cause ASPD really is kinda not too good for ammo-based skills

[remote perch]

I don't really think Wis wants ASPD anyway

[civic bear]

use s2 and go hybrid

[jovial nest]

[remote perch]

[civic bear]

but yeah else only atk

[spark sinew]

slap +sp

don't be greedy

[jovial nest]

there's also a point where physical might want more ATK?

due to how DEF works?

[civic bear]

well yes but

[jovial nest]

for arts and RES, it's a linear progression

[civic bear]

+30% atk is same raw number increase

its 800 smth times 30% atk increase

+240~ atk stat regardless

but she reach 2.3k alrdy so its merely 10% increase

[jovial nest]

well, we're not talking Surtr

she's always Arts

and RES always negates linearly

hmmm wait

ok so, let me pick apart the other Physical nukers I use

Wis is definitely better with ATK+30%

Degen's S3......ATK+30%, right?

How about Mlynar.....ASPD +30, right? Due to Liberator's low base ATK?

[jovial nest]

in raids it's mostly AFK. If it's missions related to killing bosses, if I haven't killed them in one skill cycle, I've failed already

[civic bear]

base atk isnt relevant

its how much +atk% they have

mlynar already has plenty, +400% from trait+s3

degen is atk+% yes

+atk% buff -> checks current +atk%
+atk inspire -> checks final atk stats

[vernal lion]

for arts dmg, it's more about aspd buff and enemy res,
because it's dmg based on percentage number after all, you will understand why GG s3 with aspd is pretty good in SSS
so more aspd will give great buff combined with her atk from s3, especially when you don't want to waste too much time to kill smth

[civic bear]

mlynar has both high +atk% buff and final atk stats thats why he suck with warf/skalter but p good with aspd buffer.
degen has no +atk% so getting +atk% buff is great. she also has fairly low final atk stats making inspire works decently well. obviously if you buff degen with warfarin, inspire gets "less" value relative to before(still great nonetheless)

[jovial nest]

as for Physical.....debatable?

[spark sinew]

wdym

[civic bear]

aspd is fixed dmg increase

[spark sinew]

+sp helps her 3 revenants as well

not to mention everyone else in range

just comfy pick

[jovial nest]

wait wait wait.....does it stack with the assist-oriented perma provision?

[civic bear]

every 1 aspd = 1% more dps regardless of anything (oversimplified but for most use its basicly equivalent)
atk% is not so obvious

[jovial nest]

do revenants count as "allies"?

cause this is something I'm adding to Meyja

and it does not stack

so I was thinking about its effects with other +SP shit

or is it a selfish effect on food?

[spark sinew]

you won't always have meyja in the same squad

or even just overlooking wisadel

[jovial nest]

not for farming sure

[spark sinew]

because she just doesn't need heals

[jovial nest]

but boss killing, she is there

I'll check all condiments again

but yeah

I haven't had the experience wherein I thought "i need a 2nd skill cycle"

or was close to getting one

and didn't

[full terrace]

@pure orchid holy coconut crab. I wanna pull Warfarin on my alt, got Pallas in 5 pulls. Crazy luck with the 6 Stars 😂

[jovial nest]

you'd be surprised how Wis gets damaged sometimes. Especially Vanilla Wingbeast in Pressure 6-7

but yeah, weather also doesn't help especially heat

[civic bear]

if it works it works mang

[spark sinew]

oh i know

but i meant generally, you wouldn't want her in the range anyhow

especially since she also tends to hog a ton of space for herself

[jovial nest]

you still there?

I wanna ask you about someone who told me the condiments of the provisions might be multiplicative

Ya2 S2 used (no food)

and then used this (food with condiments that give ATK +15%, and then another ATK +15%)

[vernal lion]

isn't it truly 30%

[jovial nest]

I'm asking if there's any difference

or if its just purely additive

cause some weirdo tempted fate and posted that condiments are multiplicative

[vernal lion]

yes, it's 15 + 15

[jovial nest]

so it's additive?

[vernal lion]

yea

oh wait, it's multiplicative

[jovial nest]

FUCK

so....what does that mean?

@spark sinew multiplicative

[vernal lion]

(1026 x 1.15) x 1.15

[jovial nest]

i mean hmmmm

with that knowledge

what's better of the 3 options

in a general way

• +30% ATK

• +30 ASPD

• +15% ATK and +15 ASPD

[vernal lion]

it's based on type of attack tho

[jovial nest]

for arts first

so less complicated

[near folio]

If operator has naturally high atk, aspd is the way

[vernal lion]

arts is always aspd

[jovial nest]

and physical is debatable?

[vernal lion]

physical is based on how big number it is

[glass monolith]

Physical scales better with ATK when it outscale DEF because it is flat. Arts nerfed by enemy RES by percent

[vernal lion]

usually for physical I still refer ++atk

[jovial nest]

like for Wis S3I imagined +30% ATK is better
for Degen S3, +30% ATK since her S3 doesn't work with ASPD
for Mlynar S3......what's best?

we're talking Liberator base stats

and additive atk bonuses AND multiplicative atk bonuses

[vernal lion]

for ammo skill, more aspd will end skill sooner, but it's still depended on what kind of strategy you want

[jovial nest]

or ASPD

[glass monolith]

Is this too late to offer "not overthinking"?

[jovial nest]

Minus, the whole point of these discussions is how high we can go

it is overthinking for fun

[vernal lion]

liberator is half atk half aspd

[jovial nest]

nice

[vernal lion]

that is for Mlynar

[jovial nest]

Degen's S3 don't get affected by ASPD, right?

[vernal lion]

totally

it's pure number of hit

[near folio]

Iirc degen's damage comes from atk scale anyways so you would want atk% buff on her

[vernal lion]

so atk buff as always

still we don't have any new liberator,
but I would say Tequila is shit for high def enemy unlike Mlynar s3

so atk for Tequila is better

[near folio]

Luckily shamare exists

The actual best "buff" for physical operators

[topaz fog]

guys i cant do h14-3. im dying to the lasers. i dont havee shu

[civic bear]

what pot is this

[glass monolith]

Lazers damage get buffed if spinny thingy touch tower

[topaz fog]

oh ok. ill keep this in mind

[glass monolith]

It is relevant to like 3rd or 4th time lazer activate because there is like 20+ of those thing so lazer can easily go from like 200 something dps to 400+

[civic bear]

how does yato s2 has 1k atk with no food

[glass monolith]

MOTIVATED

[civic bear]

said number should have yato talent ongoing

[jovial nest]

RA2 has logistics and skill tree buffs

also p6

[civic bear]

how much is that

logistic and skill tree

mod3 right

[jovial nest]

mod3 p6

oh wait

logistics buffs don't directly improve stats

wait hmmmm

[vernal lion]

logistic only buff 8% dmg

[jovial nest]

checked

skill tree offers no operator stat buffs

[civic bear]

maxed out shouldve been 892

[jovial nest]

here's her naturally

[topaz fog]

everything dies

bruh

[civic bear]

yeah 725 x 1.23 from talent

[jovial nest]

what about this one?

[civic bear]

nah that one atk scale

[vernal lion]

[civic bear]

doesnt change stat

[vernal lion]

now calculate that 1,46

[full terrace]

Whats your issue? Surviving? Why dont you just borrow Shu.

[civic bear]

max pot

[topaz fog]

cause wisadel dps is needed. and im borrowing her

[topaz fog]

oh without shu its not possible? then its ok. ill not it rn

[full terrace]

No way. Wisadel is not mandatory for that stage.

You got plenty of dps tho

[topaz fog]

who can damage that many enemies then

[scarlet mortar]

insert aoe ops

[full terrace]

Your best AoE dps?

[civic bear]

could be stage effect 15%

[topaz fog]

thats the section im lacking... i dont have SA and mlynar

[scarlet mortar]

those aren't aoe

[topaz fog]

who are.. then

[vernal lion]

@jovial nest

[scarlet mortar]

but sure ig we can say they are

5/6 targets

[topaz fog]

irene?

[jovial nest]

FUCK

[glass monolith]

Bro you need to damage towers to activate them to push bad lazor of boss back

[jovial nest]

I FORGOT

stage buffs from fortification

[topaz fog]

how can i... everything is dying

[jovial nest]

[civic bear]

that one seems to be base stat

[scarlet mortar]

yh i'm not sure that aoe's the problem when you only need to push the laser back there to win

[glass monolith]

Save stuff like Ptilo S2 to survive initial lazor before you push it back enough to not be affected

[civic bear]

that said even then the food buff is high

[topaz fog]

who is AOE? idk

[civic bear]

which seems to be multiplicative

but its different food from surtr's no?

[scarlet mortar]

have your ops barrage the towers to push the laser back

[civic bear]

might just be each food is different

[full terrace]

If you want Shu's healing power, but also dps at the same time, do Reed S3 she does both as long as she keeps hitting things.

[scarlet mortar]

once you've pushed the laser far enough you won't take damage

[topaz fog]

but ohhh thats trueee

i have Reed alter... how can i forget

[vernal lion]

@jovial nest yea, the number looks right

[scarlet mortar]

idk you have both ptilo and NG there, just save their skills when the boss pops up

then spam ya2 exu etc at the towers

[topaz fog]

my exu is like e2 lvl 60 unmodded. do i need mods on her

[scarlet mortar]

no, you only need hitcount for the towers

[civic bear]

then how come surtr gets +40% atk buff but the other food is multi

oh

its only vigor ones

that are additive

the rest are multi

[glass monolith]

[vernal lion]

multi is good

[full terrace]

Some 4 Stars clear (Wisadel carry) by Leo Tse https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z43036egaUY&list=PLAmmODfR9AKdtJGDoSibd7OJPHBIRtPOW&index=11&pp=iAQB

[scarlet mortar]

amiya carry fr

[full terrace]

Susurro carry 😏

[topaz fog]

ok. but it was h-14-3

[full terrace]

Oh I sent wrong link LOL

Lemme edit the link

[vernal lion]

let's take it as reference for 4 too

[glass monolith]

Ethan carry

[vernal lion]

you know that I farm lightning ore with him and Ascalon before I get more of that one

truly hit count moment

[glass monolith]

[vernal lion]

150 hit counts btw

and Wis s2 is absolutely beyond good for this, due to the splash effecting other one too

[late bane]

No what

[full terrace]

?

[glass monolith]

Let them cook it is funnier that way

[civic bear]

it is true with two enemies

[full terrace]

The guy struggled with the laser devices. Reed hitting the devices will heal everyone in her range while also converting the devices.

[topaz fog]

im still struggling..

[opaque bridge]

[jovial nest]

Got a question about food buffs again for RA2
What's a better food buff for Ascalon S2M3 mod3?
This? (effects last forever too)

or this?

i was thinking that the necrosis would be so small since Ascalon's arts dmg are only DoTs

@vernal lion

[topaz fog]

am i doing something wrong with the character placements?

[civic bear]

if you got no necrosis provider might as well get it

[vernal lion]

no, ascalon arts dmg is bullshit

it's based on her atk tho

[jovial nest]

yeah but it's lowered, right? DoTs is like 11% of her ATK (increased by S2M3 of course)

is it worth it?

I can add that effect to Logos and Ceobe too (ASPD Necrosis)

[smoky halo]

based on the wording its based on asca atk

not multiplied by 11% from the dot

[jovial nest]

but Ascalon's normal attack is physical

the necrosis % only comes from the arts dmg

[smoky halo]

yeah but its based on her raw atk

not dmg dealt

so 11% doesnt matter

[full terrace]

Nightingale and Wisadel swap places, that way Wisadel will cover 3 devices. Also flip everything upside down.

[jovial nest]

hmmmmm

good point on wording....

[smoky halo]

this is why virt talent says deals necrosis based on atk
and logos mod says deals necrosis based on dmg dealt

different metrics ya

[topaz fog]

thats what im missing ig.... i always leaking the last 1 big flying ball..

rest boss died easily

gotta somehow can weis

[vernal lion]

also, this is not even for Ascalon too, ambusher doesn't even need tenacity

[jovial nest]

wait

doesn't that make it absolutely busted for arts DoT-dealers with solid ATK bases?

if the wording is to be considered?

[jovial nest]

oh don't think about Tenacity

[smoky halo]

yeah but consider that necrosis isnt stackable

and its flat 800 dps

[jovial nest]

thats the best base perma provision for raw ATK%

if anything just look at everything BUT Tenacity

those are only considered for surtr and mlynar

for me

[full terrace]

RA talk both in help and strat

Oh god

[vernal lion]

@jovial nest I would pick this, or this

[jovial nest]

RA talks here have always been....endgamey

[jovial nest]

ok so......first food can't get condiments

[vernal lion]

HP buff is good if she's in dangerous position that would take dmg

[jovial nest]

2nd food hmmmm, +25% ATK if you want the good condiments

[smoky halo]

the 30%atk 30aspd should be better for asca no?

over the true dmg one

[jovial nest]

yes

[smoky halo]

more aspd means u stack 3stacks faster

[jovial nest]

first food's issue is

we can't add more condiments to it

it's drop-only

[smoky halo]

[vernal lion]

he wants a forever food, I don't think there's one

unless

+15 aspd +15 aspd

[jovial nest]

lemons = 30% ATK + 2 condiments = +30 ASPD

[vernal lion]

yea

[smoky halo]

this one is forver food

based on the wording

[jovial nest]

so....

how about the Necrosis ASPD one?

that's the consideration

+35 ASPD with necrosis shit

or +30% ATK and +30 ASPD

[vernal lion]

not worthy tho

you know that necrosis proc is 1000

[civic bear]

Just get it for aspd

Aspd can't go wrong

[jovial nest]

so whats the answer?

[civic bear]

It's marginal diff

[jovial nest]

the answer's not clear to me

we've always discussed shit that's marginal in difference.

[vernal lion]

her arts dmg is every second, so let's calculate the number of dmg dealt based on atk

[jovial nest]

here for aid

if you need this too in case we consider minimal difference of ASPDs of the two

[vernal lion]

hmm looks like she can

5 seconds are enough to proc necrosis

[jovial nest]

how many times can she proc it within the duration?

while allowing ele burst cooldowns

[vernal lion]

"arts dmg per second"

[jovial nest]

when it says it stacks 3 times

[civic bear]

Is this not the food

[jovial nest]

does it just mean additive DMG?

or procs 3x more often?

[civic bear]

Once only

Stacks increase number not amount

One proc a second

[vernal lion]

but her atk int is 3.5 seconds

[civic bear]

Distilled Medulla Booster
Added in Expansion II.
ASPD +35; when dealing Arts damage, inflicts Necrosis Damage equal to 6% of damage dealt
Worth 150 Energy
Effects last indefinitely
How to obtain: Enter a Feral Strange Territory.

This the food right

[jovial nest]

we're considering the ASPD increase too.

[civic bear]

It's dmg dealt

[jovial nest]

welp....

that's.....down the gutter

[civic bear]

So the necrosis isn't gnna happen even on skill

[vernal lion]

because you will kill enemy first

[jovial nest]

ok 30% ATK and 30 ASPD it is

[civic bear]

Prob takes like 1 minute

[jovial nest]

btw am i right about this?

so the food base I'm using is 30% ATK

the condiments is.....what we talked about

i did double ASPD so +30 ASPD

is that the right decision for Ascalon?

due to stacking talents?

[vernal lion]

iirc in danger mode, there's risk that is reduce enemy dmg taken from physical and arts attack by 20%

this maybe worth if you're willing for necrosis

normally, I won't go for this

[jovial nest]

even then wouldn't Ceobe be the better lead for that?

[civic bear]

Ye

[jovial nest]

I know Ceobe's perfect food is that ASPD Necrosis

that's.....feels like a given

especially with how much she skyrockets her DMG done with her anti-DEF talents

[vernal lion]

you know that Ceobe will be busted if she gets burn dmg

[jovial nest]

hah!

if only

still

[vernal lion]

bro, trust me

[jovial nest]

with a theoretical 3rd module Ceobe

[vernal lion]

there will be burn dmg mod

[jovial nest]

that adds burn

[vernal lion]

[jovial nest]

wouldn't there still be a debate

vs her module that improves Thrasher or whatever her anti-DEF talent is?

[vernal lion]

necrosis is 15s cooldown, other is 10s

so for skill that's around 40s, 10s would proc like 3 times

[jovial nest]

wait so I haven't gotten confirmation

Ascalon +30% ATK with....

• 30 ASPD
• 30% more ATK
• 15% ATK and +15 ASPD

which one for S2M3 use or just her normal attacking

[vernal lion]

30 aspd

[jovial nest]

thanks

[jovial nest]

@vernal lion Same food base for Ray S3M3 Mod3

which condiment combo is best for her?

how about Fia S3M3 ArtX Mod3
and Ifrit S2M3 BlaX Mod3?

[vernal lion]

more aspd, you know why

[jovial nest]

gotcha

as for the other 2....full ASPD i reckon?

[vernal lion]

yes

[jovial nest]

hmmmm

what about Necrosis ASPD on Ifrit? she's using the SP battery module and not burn module

or is it better to go +30% ATK +30 ASPD on her instead?

[vernal lion]

it's neutral

she's arts dmg anyway

with big number

[jovial nest]

sorry, point it out to me

which one should I go for?

[vernal lion]

tbh she refers sp food, but there's no infinite one

[jovial nest]

nope

there's one that helps SP to anyone within range

and I'm giving that to Meyja

[vernal lion]

that one is perfect for Eyja yea

[jovial nest]

so.....outside of that, what food for Ifrit

[vernal lion]

more atk, she doesn't need aspd due to her attack range is very picky

and doesn't have slow effect like Ascalon

[jovial nest]

full ATK it is?

[vernal lion]

yea

[jovial nest]

considering her S2 skill is not too reliant or doesn't gel with ASPD

so i can see why

[vernal lion]

totally

[opaque aspen]

Can we ask for RA strat questions here?

I've been doing a cheesy strat for a while now (doing rounds between day 7 and 10, where i setup a bunch of nodes to discover and roll back to day 7 once they were cleared).

I want to dig into that game mode since i also got interested in IS and i know there's a whole bunch of rewards to be had here. Altho i've never known what kinds of teams to use, when to start building, invest in equipment or which nodes to tackle first

[lapis hornet]

you can try #reclamation-algorithm-hub if no one here

[opaque aspen]

Aight thanks ^^

[topaz fog]

bruh

h-14-3 is impossible

[vivid rain]

honestly i'd take 30% more atk

cuz 15 aspd doesnt really feel like much for her

[jovial nest]

Depends on the operator by this point

Aspd is worthwhile on Asca

[vivid rain]

is that the revenant stage or the yoyo spam stage

[jovial nest]

Faster talent stacks means better CC too

[topaz fog]

its the laser stage. that dragon boss. plus lots of spear enemies

[vivid rain]

boss have low def you can just shoot him yourself instead of relying on laser

granted the bozo have 500k hp

[glass monolith]

Stack capped to 3 and during S2 not like anything will escape being stacked

[topaz fog]

i have never seen someone do that......

wha

[vivid rain]

you havent seen enough

just see more zzz

[glass monolith]

So you recommend bro who has issue to tank boss while activating our laser to tank boss even harder while going for boss directly when half team is e1?

[topaz fog]

this guy can be killed?

[vivid rain]

well yeah that's the main objective

[glass monolith]

Someone managed to S2M3 Logos him, but that clear used entire buff squad

[topaz fog]

no.. it isnt.. all of my characters are e2

[vivid rain]

i mean he has high res so
iirc exu > logos for revenant

[topaz fog]

this one?

[glass monolith]

i assume yes

[topaz fog]

i dont even have shu or arturia

[glass monolith]

What is Res - Ifrit, probably

[full terrace]

Chapter 13 yoohoo

[glass monolith]

Woohoo, chapter with totally not suspiciously low enemy count per stage

[topaz fog]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588921614303233/1320407055210774548/14D5E2AA-CD1E-4637-A1E2-1A4719E19B00.png?ex=67697c65&is=67682ae5&hm=3dad052317e562686e1540d0dac7ffe4b07ee684d20ad62dee6329d34ccd2c50&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=689&height=402

[full terrace]

Ulpian is darn good vs Damazti 😲

[topaz fog]

this is what is hapenning

[glass monolith]

So uh... How you manage to fail outside part that medicless Gladiia will quit chat first?

[vivid rain]

yeah just hit the shield guy harder

[topaz fog]

i did but at last im always leaking a enemy or 2

[full terrace]

The tanking aside, if you group 3 Damazti clones together, 5 slashes from his S3 will remove 50% of Damazti's HP. Deactivate the skill and let it cooldown, then S3 again and send Damazti to her grave.

[topaz fog]

is this s3m3 lvl 90? gladia mod 3? cause mine doesnt do that much

[vivid rain]

gladiia mod doesnt increase his damage

[full terrace]

S3M2 Lv60

Also this is 12-20, not H stages.

[topaz fog]

oh then ok

[full terrace]

Still, H stages prob take like 6~7 slashes

5 slashes is only like half his S3 duration

[topaz fog]

i need to group all 3 clones in front of ulpi..

[full terrace]

Yes go group the clones together

[topaz fog]

impossible in h-12-4

[scarlet mortar]

you can group 2 of them together

though damazti also gains DR from one extra body so it won't be as free

(read: it'll still be kinda free)

[topaz fog]

ah ok

[topaz fog]

bruh... took 25 tries

[lapis hornet]

gg

[glass monolith]

Easy part done

[lapis hornet]

that stage kinda confusing ngl

[full terrace]

Congrats

[full terrace]

Good news is that, you just beaten the hardest stage from Chapter 14.

Theresa is whatever.

40ish secs finish.

[topaz fog]

can i just surtr, wisadel and ulpianus teri teri

[lapis hornet]

easier if you play by the book and do what the stage wants

[topaz fog]

idk what to do..

[full terrace]

#strategy message

If you are still unfamiliar with the stage, do what cake suggested.

Play by the book.

[topaz fog]

did u just bishadel it?

can i wiin

[civic bear]

read the message just before it

the paragraphs

[topaz fog]

at the top i leaked. ah ok lemme read

the tile expansion technique... didnt read

[full terrace]

No I did not. Well I did and did not. There are a lot of things going on at once in that short clip. Here is Theresa's mechanic #strategy message

[topaz fog]

this is what i needed.

this wont spread furthur right

[full terrace]

If you want to brute force her like I did, only advice I can give you is that, make good use of Wisadel's Revenant Shadows. Use these Shadows to block the orbs.

But you have to engineer the spawn positioning.

[full terrace]

Yes, this is also a valid strat. If you isolate these 2 cages at the two extreme corners with Roadblocks, when Theresa enters Phase 2 they wont spread.

Someone actually did this strat and succeeded back then.

But you still have to clean out the entire stage, Patriot and all that, before you do Theresa.

[civic bear]

well in that pic it can still spread

but you got 6* so just burst is easier

[topaz fog]

it did.. idk how it came from right : )

[civic bear]

[full terrace]

🤣

[topaz fog]

fkit... i will bruteforce. KILLL THE TERRRII

[scarlet mortar]

i mean you still have to brute force "correctly"