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glass monolith
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Also boss will probably do ranged skill after global once so hello another 800x3

civic bear
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not if his myrtle get targeted by the trio attack thing

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global attack

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is 900x3 + 800 proc

topaz fog
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in other words, this stage is definately hard, right.. and h-12-4 is more harder

civic bear
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its hard

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at base level yes

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but your op are broken

topaz fog
civic bear
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it shouldve been walk in the park

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yes

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and this shit should be clearable by lvl 80 account

full terrace
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Then how my Myrtle survived #strategy message. I only say something when I have experienced it myself. His Myrtle is E2 she will survive.

civic bear
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just proper team of e2s clear this

glass monolith
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Still need plan SkadiDaijoubu
And my plan for entire chapter 12 was activating enrage after seeing my DP cap and rarity abusing entire thing

civic bear
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wisadel skills

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baits it

glass monolith
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Wisadel don't explode when boss global her summons?

sly pivot
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shes camo

civic bear
sly pivot
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πŸ˜ͺ

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and the boss cant target her summons thats adjacent anyways

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so she cant even get splashed on

glass monolith
topaz fog
civic bear
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bro

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your team is strong

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its legit

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not team issue

sly pivot
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bro just spam ulp s3 and win...

civic bear
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you can pick random 13 e2 ops

sly pivot
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😒

civic bear
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and you can win

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once you know what to do

civic bear
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just repeat

glass monolith
full terrace
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You had it last screenshot

sly pivot
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ulp s3 and gladiia in the back

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πŸ˜ͺ

civic bear
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and just deploy myrtle

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run it back

full terrace
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Just dont let Damazti eat your Gladiia

civic bear
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it might have eat ng tbf

sly pivot
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do u not bait the devour with ulp anywys

full terrace
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Gladiia dead = Ulpi lost the regen and the DR

civic bear
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ulp s2

topaz fog
civic bear
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yes

sly pivot
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🀨

civic bear
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khant

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he'd need to have ulpi not adjacent to healers

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to use s3 bait

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just run it back

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your already 🀏 close

sly pivot
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πŸ₯Ή

topaz fog
# sly pivot

u got eyjaberry.. what more u need.. she heals back the ele shread

sly pivot
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this is not my ss

civic bear
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bro...

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who tf cares about ele shred

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eyjaberry is good because raw heals

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her heal is worth like two aoe medic offskill

topaz fog
civic bear
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yeah you better win already

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or else πŸ‘Š

topaz fog
sly pivot
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also u have reedic in ur hand

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just saying

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πŸ™Œ

topaz fog
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just to ask.. when boss enter 2nd stage. i deployed texalt on the top left corner and all my healers exploded? how. and gladia too

full terrace
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They should have survived

topaz fog
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how is it even happening

sly pivot
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thats boss skill no?

topaz fog
civic bear
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the drone

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skill

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targets everyunit

sly pivot
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i think ure stalling too long

topaz fog
civic bear
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and ur units is adjacent ?

full terrace
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If you are unsure, activate your Medics' skills when Damazti enters Phase 2.

sly pivot
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if the healers start dying

topaz fog
sly pivot
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πŸ˜ͺ

civic bear
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use ng skill

topaz fog
full terrace
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Also, retreat 2 Revenants and activate Wisadel's skill to summon new Revenants, that way the Revenant will be the last deployed unit and the trio splash will go to the Revenant

full terrace
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Deploy sacrifice first before activating Wisadel skill

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Tap on the Revenant Shadow

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Tap Retreat

topaz fog
full terrace
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When you use Wisadel S3 she will summon 2 new Revenant Shadows

civic bear
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as in

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when you kill boss phase 1

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wisadel should ideally have skill off already

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to recharge

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but if she doesnt

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turn it off

topaz fog
civic bear
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then you hopefully can use the skill once more

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when the boss respawn

topaz fog
civic bear
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boss respawn

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dont immediately use the skill

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wait until the drone pops

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the animation is very obvious

topaz fog
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wow.. so much micromanagement haha

civic bear
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theyre like flying

topaz fog
civic bear
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i mean

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you can

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not having to micromanage

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the summons

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just deploy myrtle when boss almost reach 50% hp

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so should be 60% hp

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deploy myrtle somewhere

full terrace
civic bear
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either way works

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many path to victory

topaz fog
civic bear
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there is no one solution

full terrace
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As you can see in my short clip I let Wisadel normal attacked the clones for awhile, that was to charge up everyone's skills, including herself.

topaz fog
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i deploy texalt when the boss died in phase 1

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i watched the video, now i got it

full terrace
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Now you got it right, best of luck πŸ‘

full terrace
# topaz fog ahhhh this thing i didnt do

Lemme break it down again in case you got confused. Damazti demands sacrifice when her HP drops to 50% in Phase 2, so you need to deploy someone to be eaten. The thing is, in Phase 2 all the clones will do the elemental splash on your last deployed unit. The solutions we have given you are different but they both work:

  • Ancool suggested that you deploy your sacrifice when Damazti's HP is around 60%, and so when her HP drops to 50%, she will eat the sacrifice right away. I find this a little bit tricky to manage because Wisadel shoots all 3 clones at once and their HP drop like crazy, there is only a little window for you to deploy if you are doing this.
  • My suggestion is that you deploy the sacrifice after you kill the Phase 1. Right after deploying the sacrifice, activate Wisadel skill and summon 2 new Revenant Shadows - this effectively makes the Revenant Shadows your last deployed units, and the elemental splash will go to them instead of the sacrifice. Also with this method you do not need to micromanage the sacrifice timing, so you can shoot with Wisadel to your heart's content. The drawback is that, the sacrifice must survive the drones attack.
glass monolith
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It is not just "in phase 2", he does ranged skill with elemental damage to it on last deployed/taunting from get go, just there is slight difference in damage when 1 clone does it, and when 3/4 do RedOmegaLul (Skills are in sync between clones)

full terrace
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"in phase 2 all the clones" yes.

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You be nitpicking 😞

glass monolith
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Yes uWu

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Need to leave no hole in narrative because player will always find way to fall into it and blame you RedOmegaLul

full terrace
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True 🀣

real seal
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While I (Lv 61, start: Aug. 2024) have successfully pulled Ulpianus & WiΕ‘'adel in their respective event runs, I did not level up the former & had only maxed up the latter up to E1L60.

I still have my starter 6β˜† permit, SOTIL & SOTA.

These are my current operator roster.

full terrace
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So I take it you are seeking advice on where to spend your selector and vouchers?

real seal
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Story is only at 4-8 / 9-2 atm.

spark sinew
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where gravel purestream etc

full terrace
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E2 Wisadel should be your priority. Also you didnt get Lappland+Silence from your free 5 Star selectors?

spark sinew
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either way, unrelated to the question but important: raise base workers

real seal
glass monolith
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Bro has Gravel higher level than me RedOmegaLul

spark sinew
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support tag on recruit has ~50% chance to get purestream, a good idea to do that probably

real seal
full terrace
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They should have been given for free for new players.

spark sinew
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choosing starter 6* at your current roster doesn't do too much cause you likely won't raise them

spark sinew
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so i would wait
you should've had 2 5* selectors, did you check mail etc

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would you pick saria over SA here?

glass monolith
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maaaaaaybe

real seal
full terrace
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Not those

spark sinew
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those 5* raises are...unique for sure

real seal
spark sinew
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everyone had them

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maybe they were in the mail and expired, would be interesting

full terrace
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Try checking your mail and click claim all

spark sinew
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like, it's just shit you get regardless

full terrace
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Mails with gifts can expire?

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I never knew this

spark sinew
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apparently?

full terrace
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Interesting

spark sinew
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we don't talk about the progression in 3 months that we had

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4

glass monolith
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There is expire date which is usually few months

real seal
glass monolith
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On some

full terrace
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Wow interesting

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Could you screenshot us your "Consummable" tab in Depot?

spark sinew
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also either TO or kernel puller

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we should ping amigo

spark sinew
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i assume it's e2 1 and e2 max tickets

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you already have e2 so you're not forced to spend them asap

full terrace
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Training Invitation Letter and Training A-hole is how I read it.

real seal
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You can see what I have

full terrace
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Ha interesting I didnt see any 5 Star selectors.

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You sure you havent spent them?

real seal
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Nope. I don't have any of that.

sly pivot
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chapter 12 has never been easier... wtf..

real seal
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I assumed people get it from the anniversary gift, no?

sly pivot
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spalter definitely replaces saria

full terrace
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Anyway, for the 6 Star selector, I would recommend SilverAsh for burst and utility. The E2 voucher you can save it for now. The Lv80 voucher should be spent on a 5 Star unit that you will be using for a long time. If you are an Amiya user like me, you can spend it on her, but generally, for newbies this voucher is recommended to be spent on Lappland which you dont have.

sly pivot
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zzz hate this dumb ahh faction..

full terrace
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Til you decide what you want to do with them.

real seal
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OK. I'll just rely on support for now

full terrace
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Thats the recommended play for newbies yeah

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Wisadel E2 should be priority btw. With Logos borrow your journey will be so much smoother. Your account is very similar to my alt account - rerolled during Wisadel banner.

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And I just started playing it around 2 weeks ago.

real seal
full terrace
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SA E1 does almost nothing. He shines when you E2 him. The S3 hits hard and wide, and his E2 Talent can reveal invisible enemies.

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This is especially useful for Wisadel user like you, because you can just cycle Wisadel skill and his skill.

real seal
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Hmm, looks like I may have something to grind for.

full terrace
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It shouldnt be that hard with Logos borrow

real seal
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I do have friends with max lvl Logos, so it won't be difficult

full terrace
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I believe you need to rush main story to Chapter 5 for Wisadel upgrade materials.

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And skip to Chapter 9 if you want her module materials.

real seal
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@full terrace Thanks for your advice. I'll keep a note on the story mode unlocks.

full terrace
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No problem, if you are stuck on any stage, do come to this channel and ask, I will try to help the best I could.

sly pivot
full terrace
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Did you not choose Lappland with your 5 Star selectors?

sly pivot
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done with using fodder units like wisadel and mlynar....

full terrace
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Lappland's normal attacks will Silence the spiders. When the spiders are killed when Silenced, they will not explode.

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Yeah that would be my recommendation - draft Lappland. Other units can kill the spiders as long as Lappland hits first and apply the Silence.

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There is a cross (X) symbol above the enemies head when Silence is applied.

glass monolith
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Adding that because while explosive spiders and some other exploding enemies get silenced, exploding dudes in TW event couldn't care less HellaKek

spark sinew
sly pivot
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yea is over

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spam AH

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and sleep

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πŸ˜ͺ

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there is truly no hard map

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if u press ulp s3 off cd

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every 16s

digital echo
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I managed to clear with 2 stars for the first time with your guide. I'll come back to try for 3 stars later, but now I have Lumen's letter after beating the stage after. Thank you so much! DIEDIEDIEDIE

full terrace
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You are welcome. And congrats!

spark sinew
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but i heard zuo is bad

primal folio
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Thank you

topaz fog
full terrace
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Congrats everyone

brittle mesa
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How good is Weedy?

vernal lion
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she's there when you need to "hole" someone

glass monolith
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Like IS3 ending boss because fuck it RedOmegaLul

topaz fog
# full terrace Congrats everyone

Once again..... this was impossible without u my friend... i thank u from bottom of my heart. like This shi was catastrophic as fk,... πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€ idk who i did it.. like boss go def shread to literally 0... defeating his 4 clones, boss stuns, and AOE explodes on all allies, plus boss respawns... and most important, summons drones + takes 1 ally as sacrifice..

full terrace
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Congrats πŸ‘

honest vale
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how does this stage work?

narrow pendant
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Kill the staff guys and its easy

honest vale
dapper hedge
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Ya

honest vale
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thanks guys!

full terrace
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#strategy message here is 2 ops clear with Ling. You can replace Ling's dragons with real ops.

honest vale
topaz fog
full terrace
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You definitely can. Your ops are stacked.

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The opening is kinda tight tho. You need someone to lanehold right away while still generating DP.

near folio
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Are elemental medics even effective against H12-4 Damatzi?

full terrace
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Aside from that, it plays more or less the same as H12-3. The top lane is basically H12-3's right lane.

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One good laneholder there and you're golden. Kaltsit in your case.

near folio
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Thinking of trying H12 stages with Victoriaknights, how much will I suffer without wandering medic?

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From what I've heard H12-4 is the hardest main story stage in the game?

full terrace
foggy grove
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not much
dazmati will pop your ele bar when he summon his drone regardless

full terrace
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If you brought Ulpi along then thats different thing altogether.

near folio
civic bear
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comes in waves

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long enough waves that its really not big of a deal

near folio
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I still dont get how the trilly asher ability is worded

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Quite confusing for something that is essentially just a crownslayer ability

vernal lion
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the corrosion stack is way too much to be healed off

near folio
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1 source of actual good healing 2 sources of decent healing 2 sources of mediocre healing

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Add in 1 more source of mediocre healing with saileach

vernal lion
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I don't think Harold can tho, he just slow down it, a bit

near folio
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Say... a team like this, assuming all ops are around E2 50, am I still cooked?

glass monolith
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Phase 2 global bullshitery will just stack it on everyone at once, and I believe 2 or 3 clones ranged skill (when they attack same target at once) enough to instantly stack corrosion proc

full terrace
# near folio So am I cooked if I use Victoriaknights?

I know this will spark another argument but I will say it regardless. I'm a firm believer that when someone plays a nicheknight, they ought to know what to do with their own ops, if not then might as well play meta. If you are just looking for a way to clear the H stages, there is no need to restrict yourself with Victoriaknight or something.

near folio
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I mean I know I can clear H stages, it's not very hard to brute force it with wisadel and eyjaberry

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So I can't really be bothered to try anything new with meta nowadays

vernal lion
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both abilities are pretty annoying

glass monolith
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He probably can cheese burst with Bena, how long she revives?

vernal lion
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all dolls have 20s before revive

near folio
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Otherwise I think Shalem can take it for a while on S1

full terrace
# near folio I mean I know I can clear H stages, it's not very hard to brute force it with wi...

If you are playing with self-imposed restriction then that just means you are looking for challenge, for me the purpose of a challenge is to invoke critical thinking and creativity, if you are just asking around for advice I think that defeats the purpose of the challenge itself. You might want to seek @civic bear for this, he will share his inputs and opinions with you because he believes the opposite of what I believe.

vernal lion
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nah he's fine to find out what he needs here

near folio
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A challenge is a good thing but I personally dont want to embark on a futile endeavour

glass monolith
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Burst CD is 20s... Uh... are there any Victorian tactician? RedOmegaLul

civic bear
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Victorian got quercus

civic bear
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Best st healer in the game

vernal lion
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real

civic bear
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Quercus solo stall 1 clone

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Two with minimal help

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Very doable

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Heck h124 should be 6 ops

glass monolith
vernal lion
civic bear
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There's a lot of ways you can go about it

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You can nuke

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Stall

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Go halfway

glass monolith
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Never noticed just how much felines are Victorian (ignorance and not reading lore is bliss)

foggy grove
near folio
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Green haired guy is victoria too? Damn

vernal lion
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yea

civic bear
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Where stain

glass monolith
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Stain grampa in, Stain out RedOmegaLul

vernal lion
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let me edit it

glass monolith
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God just copy Victorian ops page on one of those community wiki sites which has ads for ads during ads

hidden parrot
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if he gives you cold for attacking him then… what am i supposed to do??

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explodes him with mind cutely

civic bear
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You can cc him in exchange

near folio
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S3 cant end if she cant attack DocSmile

hidden parrot
civic bear
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She does atk tho one ammo at a time

late bane
civic bear
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For low diff the solution usually is gg or typhons3

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Alternatively you shu+ce

hidden parrot
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ce?

foggy grove
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we lives on post wisadel era

near folio
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Why am I only getting ending 1 and 4 in IS4?

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Is Horizon Invitation always a guaranteed ending 4 if you do the sandstorm stage?

late bane
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After you clear ed2 you get access to ed3 where you get the collectible from sending someone to promote stage

near folio
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I see, guess I have to actually start going to lost and found

narrow pendant
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Stop doing it if you want other endingsReedBean

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Well u can do a triple ending run but still

near folio
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That sounds pretty crazy

full terrace
scarlet mortar
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he can be cc'd so the "basic" strat is to do that

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nuking is also an option, certain ops deal their entire skill damage in one go

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but then again, yh some ops come with ways to bypass the freeze

vernal lion
foggy grove
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still incomplete

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where quercus

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jesscat etc

glass monolith
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Eternal fight over in game faction tags and in lore / files place of birth

scarlet mortar
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ftr arkrec goes by pob

foggy grove
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prolly for the better else it'll be more difficult

scarlet fulcrum
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Some victorian joined certain faction so

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Just use prts easily

vernal lion
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but if you mean place of birth, yes it's victoria

vernal lion
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faction =/= place of birth

scarlet fulcrum
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She used to be in that faction, oh well joined RI

foggy grove
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victorianknight include all ops that born in victoria regardless of affiliation changes

scarlet fulcrum
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The naming is Victorian for a reason ig

vernal lion
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so that means it includes both faction and place of birth, alright

tidal sedge
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That uniform was what she used to wear. She quit the army after her whole squad was killed due to apathy/machinations of folks higher up on military command iirc. Makes sense she's more RI affiliated.

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I tried to be succinct SkadiDaijoubu

scarlet fulcrum
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Her trust betrayed sadge

vernal lion
glass monolith
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We need tier list of most rage bait tier lists out there

scarlet mortar
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i like how both yatos showed up on the tier list

topaz fog
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can this team clear h-12-4? if not what should i replace

scarlet mortar
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it can

vernal lion
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totally yes

scarlet mortar
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chongyue's kind of a weird slot there

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and maybe dusk

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the others are cool

topaz fog
glass monolith
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So I'm only one looking on Murdock? ReedBean

celest bluff
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AH team just bam bam bam whack

scarlet mortar
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mud may or may not be useless

celest bluff
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Dusk is questionable

scarlet mortar
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maybe mud S3 can go tank and spank a bit, but she's not a big contributor there

celest bluff
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3 healer is ehhhhh

topaz fog
glass monolith
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Good old "healer" Kaltsit

scarlet mortar
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saria's potentially also sus but eh

vernal lion
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kaltsit can stall top

scarlet mortar
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better tank than mud ig?

celest bluff
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Saria is okay for most situation

scarlet mortar
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she can be healed

celest bluff
topaz fog
scarlet mortar
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penance is just as bad a slot there

topaz fog
scarlet mortar
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might want more antiair to deal with the drones

celest bluff
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Remove Ulpi and Gladiia and use someone more broken

scarlet mortar
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i can't just pick a name only for you to not have them

topaz fog
celest bluff
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Also Ptilo

celest bluff
scarlet mortar
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ok archetto can mog the drones

celest bluff
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That is all the fucking sniper

scarlet mortar
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not sure abt using her for the rest of the stage

topaz fog
scarlet mortar
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but yh there's that

celest bluff
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Except Ash

glass monolith
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Pozy Pozy Pozy ReedBean

vernal lion
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you don't even need sniper if you have wis

scarlet mortar
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ig you can just wis S3 the drones

vernal lion
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the map has only 2 drones

scarlet mortar
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and forget abt it

topaz fog
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so what can be change for them?

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i mean ptilo

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and penance

scarlet mortar
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show your guards and defenders

topaz fog
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u name it. i got all healers except eyjaberry

near folio
vernal lion
topaz fog
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not much

scarlet mortar
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ntrk

near folio
scarlet mortar
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true damage go

topaz fog
near folio
topaz fog
near folio
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I havent started on H12 yet

topaz fog
near folio
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Ive heard

scarlet mortar
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tbh i think you have enough dps

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and nightingale/saria/ptilo isn't that overkill in terms of healing

topaz fog
scarlet mortar
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worst case bring hoshi or sth

topaz fog
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ohk

scarlet mortar
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spare tank

topaz fog
near folio
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I see why they call it operation assrape now

topaz fog
vernal lion
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wait for h12-4 babel only

somber falcon
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Only two blockers RedOmegaLul

civic bear
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kaltsit s2m3 handles top. you just cycle texalt/yato to kill the crossbow/tophat wave

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ulpi saria tank on the right

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ng heals

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penance/mud are kindof useless here

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cost too much

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just use same team as h12-3 bro CeobeConfused

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its the same solution

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just different map

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destroy the boxes

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except one

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dont destroy the left one

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so it doesnt change the pathing (you can destroy it but then you'd kinda be holding 4 lanes instead of 3 for 5 extra dp cap)

sly pivot
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when will bro learn to use ulp s3 πŸ₯Ή

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use the better skills man!!

near folio
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Man this stage got hands

lapis hornet
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p2w chapter

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so much easier with dp pots smh

near folio
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Is it actually impossible for medics that aren't named Nightingale to survive the global nuke that Damatzi does?

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My ptilo and perfumer keeps getting oneshot despite being E2 50

civic bear
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Def can

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375 arts

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800 proc

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Probably a drone attack once

near folio
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Even activated ptilo's skill and she got instantly deleted

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So much for reduced attack interval

bold lance
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Don't deploy next to each other. Explosions overlap.

near folio
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Oh so thats how it works

civic bear
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Ye just don't deploy units adjacent

wary imp
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question: is it possible to clear a stage which recommend operators' level slightly higher than the current roster?

civic bear
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The explosion hits cross

near folio
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Oh I didnt know that

wary imp
civic bear
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Recommended is just suggestion for which you might find it easy. Or it just old recommended and in general current ops are stronger than old ops at same level

civic bear
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All stage can be cleared using ops leveled not more than e1 so. Granted it might be hard but it's possible

near folio
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Damn this was too close

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Thank god for semi fast redeploy skadi

glass monolith
glass monolith
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NO NORMAL ATTACK 13 OP H12-4 RedOmegaLul

somber falcon
topaz fog
sly pivot
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πŸ₯Ή

scarlet mortar
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smells like button allergy

topaz fog
scarlet mortar
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don't people bring gladiia anw

topaz fog
scarlet mortar
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that's

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like the majority of his survivability

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DR + regen scaling off hp

topaz fog
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mod3.. i have mod1

sly pivot
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s2 doesnt autoheal...

scarlet mortar
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have you see ulpianus's hp

somber falcon
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Damn, if only there are ops that can heal others ExeNaruhodo

sly pivot
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what the frick are u bringing gladiia for

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if shes mod1

scarlet mortar
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wtf is a medic

sly pivot
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might as well not have a dead slot

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and bring a medic

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gladiia entire purpose is to be mod2 or higher

topaz fog
scarlet mortar
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yh but the entire point of bringing gladiia is for her mod2+

topaz fog
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oh mod2 is ok too?

sly pivot
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her talent doesnt upgrade if its mod1

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mod2 is when she gives ulp damage reduction

topaz fog
scarlet mortar
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also that means you've been living off of base hp% regen

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lmfao

topaz fog
sly pivot
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ulp gets damage reduction and hp% regen if glad is mod2 or higher

topaz fog
sly pivot
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πŸ₯Ή

topaz fog
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im glad i did s3m3 first for ulpian

sly pivot
#

hes probably more casual friendly than walter with gladiia

near folio
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Yo wtf H12-2 is screwed up

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The second agitator just camps at the area without any ground tiles with the goddamn collector disciple

sly pivot
#

silverash fodder map

glass monolith
#

April Lunacub trip DocSmile

somber falcon
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Schwarz s3 go boom

near folio
#

Alright nvm the stage was literally just the 3 agitators

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H12-3 with 3 blue boxes that are separated apart

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Already a bad sign ReedBean

civic bear
#

a bit fake 3 lane map

sly pivot
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is 2 lane map

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the 3rd lane is just damazti alone..

glass monolith
sly pivot
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no thats already in the 2 lane map

glass monolith
#

Oh, you mean like middle box

civic bear
#

only left n right

sly pivot
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the roundabout of big dudes is 1 lane and the crossbows is another

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and then u put some fodder body to tank damazti

glass monolith
#

Fuck - Big - Dudes

near folio
#

Am I chilling or am I dying?

sly pivot
#

thorns gonna explode at this rate

near folio
#

Even with 2 healers?

civic bear
#

what lvl are they

near folio
#

Actually true, my horn placement would be useless if thorns is there

near folio
sly pivot
#

yea just thorns camp rightside

civic bear
#

that should be 400 hps

cyan gorge
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Aoe healers mean slow aspd, therefore one hit at the wrong time means death

near folio
#

Nvm I cant even deploy thorns anymore

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Im maxed out at 30 dp

civic bear
#

dont need him

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u got two blockers

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also what is that ptilo

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shes not even healing defenders

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😭

sly pivot
#

i hope ur saria explodes

civic bear
#

swap ptilo and reed

sly pivot
#

ideally u swap jess and saria position

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🀫

civic bear
#

nuh uh

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left has two

sly pivot
#

thats where u tank both bodies

civic bear
#

saria tanks better

sly pivot
#

dr and healing?

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πŸ˜ͺ

civic bear
#

yes ofc

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whats jess gnna do

sly pivot
#

shes... cuter

civic bear
#

triples defense

sly pivot
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im just a saria hater

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πŸ‘Š

opaque bridge
#

I somehow leak on this CM for no reason...? I was doing all three lanes fine when boom stage fail

sly pivot
#

well... might wanna pay attention

civic bear
#

isnt this random map

scarlet mortar
#

you're not gonna ask us to magically deduce what went wrong

civic bear
#

i can imagine what went wrong

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the sword guy

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killed

sly pivot
#

proly just leak a fire soldier mask

civic bear
#

but the thing not blocked

sly pivot
#

or smth

civic bear
#

cuz - aspd

scarlet mortar
#

mook leaking sounds more likely

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that's what happened to me last i remember

opaque bridge
#

huh.... I was checking the bottom lanes and upper lane had 2 blockers

civic bear
#

its not about blockers

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that stage kinda rush

near folio
civic bear
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but if you rely on melee ops as damage

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and you dont have high hitcount

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those get overwhelmed in sheer number

opaque bridge
#

switch to ranged and just block the embers or smt?

near folio
#

Does Bena survive Damatzi's snipe with 4 bodies on the field?

civic bear
#

block them but your main dps source should be ranged so they dont get cucked by aspd down

glass monolith
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Sniper should be instantaneous or something so doll will remain

near folio
#

So dollkeeper is the intended way to cheese that mechanic?

glass monolith
#

I don't know if she will undoll in time because doll and burst CD match exactly

near folio
#

But I want the shield to clear drones fast tho

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What a dilemma

glass monolith
sly pivot
#

ure supposed to block embers eitherway

glass monolith
#

Babel + doll keeper / ambusher / other 0 blocks = schizo chain maze

civic bear
glass monolith
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I assume he asked surviving of global single target one

full terrace
#

@topaz fog you still struggling with H12-4?

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I can run you a quick simulation, just got my practice plans back, but you gotta wait like 40 mins at the minimum depending on the video length. The compression takes forever.

near folio
#

Ok suddenly Damatzi doesnt seem so bad

civic bear
#

you should just bait it using jessica shield anyway

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jessica shield got taunt

sly pivot
#

damazti is just fearmongered bro

near folio
#

Luckily H12-3 doesnt have Amogus mechanic as a prominent stage hazard

sly pivot
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hes actually fodder

civic bear
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its just mechanic

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and its multilane

sly pivot
#

h12 3 is the easiest damashi map tho

civic bear
#

the only

near folio
civic bear
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h12-1 doesnt exist bro

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its not damazti stage

near folio
#

H12-1 has some annoying agitator spawns

civic bear
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h12-1 is just civilians stage

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damazti does nothing

near folio
#

The top left agitator is so demonic

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Bro takes forever to start walking

sly pivot
#

12 20 bro...

near folio
#

But the Trillby Asher were the main problem when I was limiting my 6 star usage for 12-20

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They are really painful when hitting even 5 star tanks

sly pivot
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is really painful when they spam like 5 of the heavy spies

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😒

scarlet mortar
#

after the drones and the operatives

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yes i'm traumatized by 12-17 AE

opaque bridge
#

me when dp limit

near folio
#

I personally find agitators more agitating than operative

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Some of their spawns are so demonic

lapis hornet
#

wdf is 12 17

cyan gorge
#

I remember doing 4 ops for 12-17 AE ReedBean

sly pivot
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3 or less for that fodder map

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aint even got a boss

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πŸ˜ͺ

glass monolith
#

13, full rarity abuse, full AH squad, no stops. They dared to touch my DP cap

lapis hornet
#

I could probs 2 step that if I had a pot6 mod3 exu lol

scarlet mortar
#

DP down 2.5 is literal death for the niche with doro, phantom, and basically everyone with 20+ DP cost

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also seed hell

lapis hornet
#

pot2 mod1 cryga

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idr why I never modded exu

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surely can kick schwarz if maxed

scarlet mortar
#

when your niche needs to pray for DP and the entire map opener is geared against that, it may just suck a bit

lapis hornet
#

yeah I mean

scarlet mortar
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is why i hate them

lapis hornet
#

ok but highmore suggs

scarlet mortar
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yh so i straight up have to rely on the rrat

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to have enough DP for the rest of the map, ironically

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phantom doesn't kill them either

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his clone is a DP sink too

topaz fog
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i have lots of characters to build. just did gladia mod 2

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for ulpi. now time for suzuran. etc

full terrace
#

Eh.. I just finished running your simulation with your current squad

topaz fog
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my squad is noob

full terrace
#

I cut the video into 4 parts and the compression took 1 hour but it's done. Do you want me to post them here or in DM?

topaz fog
full terrace
topaz fog
full terrace
topaz fog
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noice

full terrace
#

Oh ya I forgot to tell you, I used Shu to simplify stuff. I know you dont have her and it's fine. You just need to bring your Saria, Hoshi, and another unit. When Saria falls, replace her with Hoshi or the other unit.

topaz fog
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no problem

full terrace
#

That 1 Shu replaces 3 units to simplify things

full terrace
#

Aside from Shu, the rest are the units in the squad you posted above.

topaz fog
#

should i post my defenders again?

full terrace
#

Any Defender is fine (even 4 Star ones like Gummy), but Hoshi starts with 1k Def and it will take Damazti a few hits to reduce her Defense to 0. By the time she has 0 Defense, your Saria is up again.

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And sure you can take Yato with you.

topaz fog
full terrace
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I'd do S3 to control the crowd, Surtr is already on Damazti duty you got plenty of dps on the boss.

near folio
#

Uhh where did Damatzi go?

civic bear
#

you leaked

near folio
#

Oh wait

glass monolith
#

At this moment he knew

near folio
#

Maybe this could clear it

civic bear
#

definitely

scarlet mortar
#

ngl if it's a 12op E2 squad with like 4+ 6*s i'd say it clears

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although i'm kinda curious how much thorns is gonna contribute there

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or bena, if you can find a stable setup with everyone else

lapis hornet
#

damn are we doing h12-4 again

scarlet mortar
#

it's always H12-4 o' clock in strat

near folio
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I got a setup like this

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Once I retreat Texas its 2 slots to play around with

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Not sure how far this can go

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Bursting phase 2 is definitely an issue tho

scarlet mortar
#

eh idt bursting specifically is the issue?

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that squad's better suited for just outliving the boss

near folio
scarlet mortar
#

better save SA for the phase 2 mob waves

civic bear
#

just move jessica 2 tile to the right

near folio
#

So most likely dead

scarlet mortar
#

don't bother bursting damazti imo, unless you're specifically syncing up the skill with his chant

near folio
#

Unless you want to link another medic to her

civic bear
#

reed heals not significant offskill and when invul tho

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also boss has 50 res 40% or 60% damage reduction

near folio
#

Reed's debuff let them tank better during the skill uptime though

scarlet mortar
#

use SA to fend off the trilby's or sth

near folio
scarlet mortar
#

idr how p2 goes but that squad won't burst damazti fast enough anw

near folio
#

Hmm I see

scarlet mortar
#

you'll still have to deal with the last 50%

near folio
#

I'll attempt to outlive damatzi then ig

full terrace
# full terrace

@topaz fog oh one more thing I forgot to tell you. During Damazti Phase 2, when her HP is close to 50%, dont activate Ulpi's skill like me, rather let her eat Myrtle at far right. I forgot that Ulpi's skill is a redeployment, and that overrides Myrtle's status as the last deployed unit. Luckily in that simulation his skill ended just in time when Damazti is eating him, that little accident redeployed him back to his original position.

civic bear
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you got 15second window

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before they get eaten

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and there is the red mark above op

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so if that were to happen can just stop ulpi skill

full terrace
#

Yah but thats another micro management I dont want to burden him 🀣

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Myrtle is readied at far right, might as well

near folio
#

Damn my Blemishine dies as soon as phase 2 begins

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Looks like even she is not enough to sustain against the Cluster

glass monolith
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Sounds like she is last deployed and targeted by ranged burst?

civic bear
#

how is she dying

glass monolith
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Or she fails at surviving global skill

civic bear
#

did you use her skill

near folio
civic bear
#

use s2

near folio
#

She survives the global skill initially

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Then dies

full terrace
#

"As soon as Phase 2 begins" probably the drones then.

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Yeah right, the drones.

civic bear
#

well she does has 0 defense

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by then

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and you have

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one healers

sly pivot
#

deploy bena

civic bear
#

st even

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and thorns nearby

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so she need to heal so much shit

near folio
#

Hmm

civic bear
#

warf get distracted by drone killing her

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so she cant heal blem

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you need someone to kill the drone

scarlet mortar
#

could swap blem for bena halfway through p1 i think

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then rdp her to regain def

sly pivot
#

also

civic bear
#

that works too ye

sly pivot
#

for p2 cant u make jess tank 2 if u kill them in the middle of the map and rdp infront of blue box

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and u can use saria for top instead of blem

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idk

civic bear
#

yep

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takes a bit of effort tho

sly pivot
#

😒

scarlet mortar
#

does blem have sth to get SP off for skill

civic bear
#

drone hit

scarlet mortar
#

if she swaps with saria

full terrace
#

Top actually has more pressure than bottom. 2 clones are heading there.

scarlet mortar
#

ehhhhhh

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sure ig

civic bear
#

not in that setup

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he breaks boxes

sly pivot
#

u kill asap by the 4th clone

civic bear
#

so the top clones goes separate ways

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also it takes awhile

sly pivot
#

so is whatever

civic bear
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until the clones reach blue box so

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6* should dps em fast enough

sly pivot
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u silverash all 4 clones and win

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πŸ₯±

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and then u press buttons to kill the last top hat wave

scarlet mortar
#

what's early p2 like again

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just instigator + spies?

sly pivot
#

yea

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just civi spies and whatever

civic bear
#

drone global atk flag guy and 1 spy

sly pivot
#

oh yea a flag

scarlet mortar
#

yh flag guy's instigator

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would block be an issue then

civic bear
#

nah

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top 3 enough

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heck

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if box is destroyed

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the spy goes 2nd lane

scarlet mortar
#

ok is free then

full terrace
#

Ulpi is really good in this stage. Defending top lane and still can hit bottom lane. S3 redeployment can cheese Damazti's sacrifice demand. Corrosion damage completely negated coz his Defense is 0 to begin with. Tanks better than Defender with that much HP. Most natural counter to H12-4 so far.

near folio
#

I added Reedic to Blemi, think this will work?

topaz fog
#

i did it... barely

full terrace
#

You beat the stage? Congrats

topaz fog
topaz fog
near folio
#

Yep

full terrace
#

Welp congrats

near folio
#

Im trying to do it without abusing overpowered ops

topaz fog
full terrace
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Why? Its fun πŸ˜‚

topaz fog
#

i suffered from PTSD

near folio
#

None of the civs in phase 2 are hostile right?

topaz fog
sly pivot
#

phase 2 has some that are hostile

near folio
sly pivot
#

the first wave of civis in right lane is passive

full terrace
#

Right, Shu is currently one of the best tanks in the game, if not the best one.

near folio
#

Aight

sly pivot
#

the leftside has 1 spy

near folio
#

Cause I used jessica's shield to kill the drones

sly pivot
#

but u have 3 block

near folio
#

Wait that means I have to kill that guy regardless wtf

sly pivot
#

ull catch it anyways

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he goes bot if u break box

topaz fog
sly pivot
#

so thorns should catch it

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πŸ˜ͺ

full terrace
#

Reedic also heals for a crazy amount, I suggest you grab her.

near folio
#

Im trying not to resort to ulpian

sly pivot
#

or thorns die

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because def down

topaz fog
#

i never levelled up thorns.. i rather will focus on suzuran. cause she has good usage in some strategies

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and certain masteries and modules are also pending... lot of work before h13-2 : )

sly pivot
#

the first spy hit is kinda nasty so maybe thorns actually explode

opaque bridge
near folio
#

Yeah lol got instantly cooked

scarlet mortar
#

someone did that

near folio
#

The drones just kill everything

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If I retreat an op during the drone skill targeting will the attack still land on that tile?

full terrace
scarlet mortar
#

someone also did several other H12-4 niche clears

near folio
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I retreated jessica's shield below perfumer but she still got hit to 1 hp by that global nuke

scarlet mortar
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the rhine one was based though

civic bear
opaque bridge
near folio
civic bear
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?

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blem s2 is

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diamond shape

opaque bridge
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Player: Zuikaku
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civic bear
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this way reed can use skill

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when drone comes

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to kill them

scarlet mortar
near folio
opaque bridge
scarlet mortar
near folio
#

But reedic wont be able to get skill for the first drone wave

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Unless blemi heals reedic enough for phase transition

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Also wtf the 4th clone walks on thorns lane

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I might actually be cooked then

civic bear
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4th clone takes a while

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just kill the boss faster

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retreat thorns even

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and let it walk to blue box

#

like we talking 50s ish before the 4th clone escapes

topaz fog
# civic bear

saria, ptilo, blemi m3 and modules needed tbh to clear this

glass monolith
topaz fog
#

i did it... pre that. it was very tough

topaz fog
#

perfumer is mid even with mod... i need to mod my ptilo

opaque bridge
#

…?

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the f you mean 7% max hp recovery isn’t good-

glass monolith
#

mod1 extra tile is peak when you remember it exist

scarlet mortar
#

not 7% max hp though

topaz fog
opaque bridge
scarlet mortar
#

perfumer's HoT scales off her atk

sly pivot
#

how broken is perfumer

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THE 4* GOAT

topaz fog
glass monolith
#

Perfumer power is like Silence S2, scales from my inability to place shit within medic range HellaHands

sly pivot
#

sure

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πŸ‘

topaz fog
#

ng and ptilo is more than enough for any stage : ) if no eyjalter and shu. and yeah shining is mid

glass monolith
#

Ptilo give SP. SP make me press skills. Skills make me win. I love pressing skills

sly pivot
#

I LOVE WISADEL

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i fricke dup..

civic bear
#

so bad

sly pivot
#

😭

#

i cant block the second waves of spies either

#

i need to rdp gladiia

near folio
#

Hmm im starting to feel wild

#

Maybe I could tech in Silence alter

#

With a pocket S3

#

Just found out that dollkeeper doesnt actually fully redirect damatzi snipe

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Somehow Bena always redeploys the moment damatzi casts the snipe

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Which means it just targets the previous deployed op instead of Bena

glass monolith
#

Both snipe and doll last 20 seconds HellaHands

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Trolled by timing

civic bear
#

bena doesnt redeploy

glass monolith
#

Are there any brief periods of invulnerability when operator change from doll to operator so Damatzi would fail to focus on her even if she last deployed?

sly pivot
#

there is

glass monolith
#

Long live 15 second respawn beanstalk/blacknight summons

scarlet mortar
#

first time i noticed that was when spalter dodged an andoain scan

glass monolith
#

(I didn't try to do tactician cheese because i couldn't set up them not dying to drones)

lapis hornet
#

khant become full time ulpi glad abusesr

#

joever

sly pivot
#

let me have fun

glass monolith
#

Show me person who H12-4 without 0 AH people on blind first try etc HellaHands

sly pivot
#

i hate AH but if i get to glaze ulpi its worth..

scarlet mortar
#

i hate AH
but

topaz fog
#

πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€ just borrow degenbecher... he slices those clones in 2 peices

near folio
#

Reminds me of the old days counting every single Faust shot

full terrace
glass monolith
full terrace
#

I failed miserably on my first blind attempt at JT8-3 🀣

#

What is this Sanrio collab so lame

glass monolith
#

JT8-3, NL-EX-8, NL-S-4. Were peak clownfiesta in my gaming HellaHands

#

Dead week is dead week, i take it, need to get moar chips and red certs

full terrace
#

I need durians when is the promised durians

near folio
#

Damn man Blemi just keeps dying

#

Also healers instadying to drones after def shred πŸ’€ReedBean

#

Wait a goddamn minute

#

How do you deal with top lane trilby asher?

#

Maybe its time to pull out the surtr ReedBean

full terrace
#

Surtr works yeh

near folio
#

I'll have to adjust my reedic skill timings

full terrace
#

Kyostin guide used Kaltsit iirc

near folio
#

What a pain

full terrace
#

But anything works really

near folio
#

Reduced cast time on drone spam is painge

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Idk man by the time Damatzi calls in the third swarm of drones my Ptilo just instantly dies

glass monolith
#

Overlap of global hit, drone hit and elemental damage burst probably kills her

near folio
#

There is no overlap

civic bear
#

ok that blemi dies because tophat isnt killed

near folio
#

I made sure to keep ptilo and perfumer away from everyone else

civic bear
#

thorns so useless here bro

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😭

near folio
glass monolith
#

Even if they away, they still take damage from global

near folio
#

I see... the drones do ranged physical

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Every time damatzi calls in the drones their def just keeps getting lower

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Now I'll have to somehow time jessicat's shield to both bait the snipe and be ready for every time the drones come in πŸ’€

full terrace
#

Plop Shu, everyone survives.

#

Drones? Activate S3 nobody is dying.

near folio
#

Wouldnt be fun if I just used Shu and live with 0 consequences

#

Man im so close

#

It might just be a few timing adjustments

near folio
#

Alright its almost cooking

topaz fog
steel kiln
#

Anyone got tips for 5-7

topaz fog
#

u know what.. i afk'd h-12-4.. with my unique strategy : )

late bane
narrow pendant
#

Why did bro destroy the block

lapis hornet
#

potgated p2w game

near folio
digital knoll
#

hey guys is goldenglow worth e2ing

spark sinew
#

if you pulled for her...yes

scarlet fulcrum
#

Oh u don't really need to play RA to obtain caper skin, lul. Generous HG

vernal lion
#

bro from detective -> magician -> shopkeeper

sly drift
#

Frfr

ashen knoll
#

It was going too well RedOmegaLul

#

Maybe Logos S1 would work better

full terrace
#

Yes Logos S1 would be better in here because he auto-deletes those Reborn Creations.

ashen knoll
#

How do i keep the boss from slaughtering my bottom lane hmm Bnuuy

#

I really wish i have a solid tank at time like this

civic bear
#

First off

#

You do

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Put ulpian down there

#

And warf saria healing

#

With mod2+ gladiia

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Ulpian+ point medics

ashen knoll
#

Imma try that

civic bear
#

Tho alternatively you could just burst the guy

#

Using 4 carts

#

summon both top and bottom.
wait until the cart summon sp almost back to full. then push top one. when it hits immediately summon top one again, push bottom now, summon another one bottom when it hits. you can immediately push top one too around the same time as the bottom 1st cart hits.

near folio
#

Minecart mechanic truly the best

full terrace
#

Those are Wisadel's bombs

#

Hoederer said so

full terrace
ashen knoll
#

It worked very well

#

Until it doesn't

#

Must i bring 3 medic

full terrace
#

Wrong positioning πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

#

Also that S3?

#

Drop her in the pink circled tile facing up. The boss will walk through the 3 red squared tiles.

ashen knoll
#

No friends got Ascalon S1 SkadiDaijoubu

full terrace
ashen knoll
#

Or S2

full terrace
#

S2 is best

#

I can lend you mind

#

Whats your ID, I'll send a request

ashen knoll
#

BlindRight#1101

full terrace
#

Request sent. Best of luck!

ashen knoll
#

Thanks SkadiHug

topaz fog
#

Man.... H stakes are made for friggin with our sanity : )

vernal lion
#

btw boss only effects weakness from each bomb cart of each tower once

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so like if you have bomb 1 on boss, then you deploy bomb 1 from tower 1 again, it won't effect again

full terrace
full terrace
#

...until Chapter 14

#

Chapter 14 is a massive disappointment

topaz fog
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mlynar died ... bruh

topaz fog
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i used this team... and well.. guess what... it should be enough... i just cant cause sussoro heals suck... and guides were cheating using eyja.. and none of the healers(ptilo/ng) has that huge range to heal mlynar...

vernal lion
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back to the time when Black Snake was a threat in H stage, thanks for 4 lanes of civilian

vernal lion
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yes

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it wasn't hard, and it also has many solutions

topaz fog