strategy

[near folio]

Pretty much

I guess the old man can 1v1 black snake

That's about it

[spark sinew]

s1 has the same problems though...

except way worse

just always dies

[opaque bridge]

still struggling on steam knight even after a few tries(adverse)
tried the hoshi already kek

fedex is still under construction since I dont have his module up yet

[rapid junco]

Borrow someone's Roberta and tank him

[sly drift]

Ceob with mod shred it like nothing

But for real.. ppl are still struggling even with Wisadel on their squad huh?

I thought it's impossible to bring Wisadel and have to use brain at the same time.

[delicate flare]

Bro after i got wisadel

all my strategies are just

deploy wis

deploy two meatshield to keep mobs in wis range

[lapis hornet]

dalao behavior

[opaque bridge]

grrrrr

[spark sinew]

no, you would absolutely demolish that stage

[lapis hornet]

wis fell off...

[weak gazelle]

what map is that?

[opaque bridge]

11-20 adverse

I tried a max logos but the cars leaked

[near folio]

It has the same issue of being breakpoint reliant, but it at least handles high survivability moderate pressure enemies

[spark sinew]

that's crazy

any examples

[near folio]

The 1v1 against black snake

Ok maybe not 1v1

He still needs some support

[trim mantle]

seven hours plus and still cannot clear BP-EX-8 normal

[lunar zenith]

Why so? Boss buffs too hard? Enemies rush? or second part of boss screws you over

Wisadel could help a lot killing the buffed enemies

[trim mantle]

cant get to transition. On normal, which is where i am stuck, he is scripted to tether a crab on left.
three waves of crabs for phase 1, cant leave W left or right leaks. Tether crab tears through my line like a bull through drywall.

[lunar zenith]

Then leave walter to the left. For the right, there is a deployable enemy u could kill to deploy a range op, or else, put a ranged ground unit such as thorns or horn

[civic bear]

Show ur ops

Right should require only a few ops to handle since they take long time to move

[trim mantle]

only have a handful of e1lv60 4* and leveled out 3*s buildt

acount is young

[lunar zenith]

show ops

[trim mantle]

this is what i got and borrowing a maxed out Walter

i cannot help but think i am doing something fundamentally wrong to be stuck for as long as i have

this is Normal and not CM

[jovial finch]

hey buddy im not saying this in a way thats detrimental or anything but what made you raise shaw before any other dps units?

honestly this seems like a pretty bad situation since you dont have any raised dps units to cover the other side of the map

[trim mantle]

well, at the time Shaw was the closet to E2 in order to borrow a support e2 so leveled it

[jovial finch]

Ah ic

[trim mantle]

the biggest issue i have is the tethered crab that is honestly what is giving me issues

seen low star guides clear with what i have and been following, but they are on CM and the tether there works differently then on NM

i have the 5* e2 boost yet

[lunar zenith]

Typing for soolong...

[civic bear]

Oh that looks clearable

Wisadel left

[lunar zenith]

aannnd?

[civic bear]

Medic and defender holding the line

Cuora susuro

[lunar zenith]

what about the right????

[civic bear]

Right side you want 3 ops

Arene

Click

And any caster

You need to kill the platform bone guy

kill two

The right one and the one that walks top right

So you can face two casters on there

The rest of the op complementary

Arts much better here

Atleast coming from non 6*

[full terrace]

You are doing something fundamentally right dont worry. But if you start this way, you have to understand the game's underlying mechanics when you attempt to clear a stage, any stage, rather than just getting spoonfed with strats. You need to understand why a strat works, and then adopt it (if you wish to), then you use your own ops to do it.

For example, in BP-EX-8, the enemies linked by the boss at its Phase 1 will have their HP boost to 300%, and the boss links the enemies with the highest HP. Understanding this, you can counter it in various ways, such as:

• Hit the "crab" enemies that will be linked by default due to their HP pool with Arts because they are weak to Arts.
• Burst the "crab" enemies with Wisadel so that the boss chooses other enemies with lower HP pool (like the ones in the right) to be linked.

[trim mantle]

with placement of the walking platform right corner or even with the platform next to boss?

[civic bear]

top right of the boss

its all just so you can hit the right mobs

that the other caster cant hit

[trim mantle]

got it

[civic bear]

bringing gravel is p nice

[plain ermine]

Yes

[trim mantle]

gravel over sus or bring both?

[civic bear]

1 medic is enough

gnna only be healing defender(1) on the left

[trim mantle]

s1 for gravel right?

[civic bear]

right side since casters gnna be hitting you might need blockers later

s1 s2 works

just bring 4*s really

and amiya . click+amiya+arene rightside

gravel melantha. then cutter is ok too for helping wisadel leftside

[trim mantle]

what i have so far

[civic bear]

bring anything really. blockers are nice incase you fk up

[trim mantle]

will give it a few tries and report back in awhile

[sly drift]

You have no *6?

[spark sinew]

holy e1 max

[crisp bolt]

E2 myrtle

[trim mantle]

none, buildt no. The account is only lv49.5

started july but didnt really dive in until november

[trim mantle]

normal complete, now onto CM

[trim mantle]

CM complete with an hour before reset

[glass monolith]

Ah yes good old complete stuff at last moment.... Reset is 2 hours away

[trim mantle]

did not intend to finish last minute. Been at BP-EX-08 for about 12 hours with little break

[glass monolith]

I rarity abused it due being broken by ex-6, I have mixed feelings about ex-8. No hyper dangerous ranges enemies, but at same time holy shit those pillar eaters are tanky

[opaque bridge]

omg the clutch

[glass monolith]

Now do "CN community challenge" clear of it

[opaque bridge]

wait... WHAT

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588921614303233/804141285534728193/image0.gif

[glass monolith]

It is more of "meme" tier stuff - CN community to "recover from Wisadel brainrot" challenged people to beat 11-20 without her while using 1 6* of each class which you obtained first (filter by obtain date)

[nocturne cove]

Zuo le and ulpianus solo that stage iirc

[opaque bridge]

bro why is 9-12 CM so speedy

what the shit

who gave them drugs

[glass monolith]

Oh I think I know, it is one where you block top left with pillar? That speed is amazing, lost few time to hovers

[opaque bridge]

yeah

WHO THE FUCK TURBO BOOSTED THE FLYING ONES TOO

OMG

this shit so fire I feel like its dogrush

[wind fiber]

Last prophecy

B4 ending 4

Who is upgrade

[lunar zenith]

Can you use other lower than 6 stars for the rest? I don't think og 6 stars that I have can defeat the stage ..

[remote perch]

I mean if your year 1 6* can't beat it, i don't really think year 1 lower rarities can do it better either

but you do you, its an self imposed challenge anyway

[vernal lion]

which IS

IS4 ?

probably Ray

use her to kill yellow

[lunar zenith]

I will take on the proposed challenge. I will come back with great new, or never come back

[spark sinew]

there's no combination of 6* that will lose the stage

[lunar zenith]

Really? I have kalsit as the healer, can mon3ter be targeted by the boss rocket?

[remote perch]

oh right
this is adverse btw

[lunar zenith]

Must be on adverse?

[remote perch]

its part of the challenge

[lunar zenith]

Can stainless bots be targeted by boss rocket?

I guess prob not

[vernal lion]

it targets highest max HP

[lunar zenith]

But the descrip says it targets highest HP

[vernal lion]

yes, I edited

just make sure he's not the highest

[spark sinew]

yeah, we even theorycrafted a bunch pf horrible teams and everything still cleared

[lunar zenith]

Ok, so what now?

My first strategy of killing the two artillery with ifrit is done

[vernal lion]

monster out of kal'tsit range

[tawdry path]

I spy with my little eyes no Ng = death

[vernal lion]

nice lol

[lunar zenith]

That is to prevent kalsit healing mon3ter, but I feel like it's useless

[vernal lion]

totally lol

Kal'tsit isn't made for healing

or it's the lowest prio to use her for healing

she's a medic that use her summon to kill enemy for most of time

[spark sinew]

absolutely is

i feel like going for kal on SK.is still better

[lunar zenith]

Ok, this is frustrating. My fianmeta needs to be full health to deal acceptable damage, but kaltsit healing sucks and focuses herself, which is a pain when the basic mobs drop aoe dmg when ded

Stainless...What can I do with him.

[vernal lion]

the device with s1 gives atk buff to the op it facing to
same with s2 but it's increased sp recovery rate
only s3 is different, your op can attack the device with s3 and when it gets enough sp it will shoot at the enemy inside its attack range

[lunar zenith]

ye Ik, but all of the are mid with my current team. Just cant think of. a way to fit it in

[vernal lion]

that's just playstyle

you fix it yourself

[vocal leaf]

chongyue stainless combo

[civic bear]

Kal can be for healing

Just. Cnt have her near the mist

[lunar zenith]

Bro, they said kal is not for healing

[civic bear]

For said scenario she absolutely can

[spark sinew]

she definitely can heal fine

[civic bear]

She just need to not get hit by midt

[vocal leaf]

it’s just better to use perfume for the aoe arts, assuming no ptilo or ng

[spark sinew]

although idt you want to swap from s3 here still (unless just aak mlynar angle and ditch kal "core" hmm)

[civic bear]

Use s2

[vernal lion]

totally didn't say she's not for healing, but I mean about the main purpose to use her

because of wasting her effort for very low priority

[civic bear]

bro is doing challenge so kaltsit is pretty damn good at these stuff. She handled lane and then you eventually switch to Kal s2 healing hoshi. She had 380 avg hps with that skill. She can stall with hoshi easily

[vernal lion]

challenge alright

then pretty sure she can with s2

as you said, don't let the mist near her and it won't be problem

[opaque bridge]

hmmm lets see

siege
silverash
saria (my only E2 6* defender)
chen alt

lumen (unbuilt 💀)
suzu
mizuki

[yeah this aint passing the vibecheck either lmao]

[spark sinew]

this would demolish the stage

even if it's unmodded SA

modded will only overkill more

[opaque bridge]

worse
he's E1 and unlevelled

i never use them that much so I left him there

moved on to different things

i guess this isn't so bad but I need his module asap
(more recent and improved I think)

[vernal lion]

modded SA > Mlynar

[scarlet mortar]

ch'alter, exfed, ela, roach who must not be named

yh i don't see the issue

[opaque bridge]

nah I'm not redoing that shit again
I had to take logos for his necrosis and res ignore thing

[scarlet mortar]

does anything in that stage even have high res

SK has 40

iirc everything else has less res

we're talking abt 11-20 AE right

[opaque bridge]

those damn corrosive cars nearly leaked

[scarlet mortar]

wis should blast them into smithereens

they have relatively high def, which in wis S3 terms means no def

actually wait i meant average def

the ones with relatively high def are the rocket launchers

[opaque bridge]

rocket launchers were a little annoying so I had to blast them off

[scarlet mortar]

wis also deals with those

[vernal lion]

unless your wis isn't s3m3 yet, these mobs are nothing to her

[scarlet mortar]

yeag

wis deepcolor duo

damn one car died just from the aftershock

[sly drift]

Dip color carry

[opaque bridge]

do H12-4 Rhine only

[full terrace]

@pure orchid secret medal on first blind attempt as well for this one 😂

Time to make Emer recordings

[vernal lion]

surprisingly this stage's almost a gate for 3 star clear

[opaque bridge]

hm....

[vernal lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1172483071686213672/2023-11-10_17-20-14.mp4?ex=6762a3f3&is=67615273&hm=af50c36323e2f1c4cdccceae692560d9efc648857ca2a03bacbd2982129d193b&

[twin jetty]

i can win this right?

[vernal lion]

how much hp left

[twin jetty]

8 with 1 shield

[vernal lion]

use Reedic s2

and put your Amiya close to her too, so the ball can hit enemy too

also depend on your difficulty

this is way harder without op that hit hard like wisadel or typhon

[twin jetty]

braving nature 1 (it took me weeks to finally beat the 1st boss)

[vernal lion]

use Amiya s1

[scarlet mortar]

miniboss moment

[twin jetty]

erm... good enough ig?

[vernal lion]

you've done well tho

good luck on your run

[twin jetty]

i mean, it'll prob die on floor 3

[scarlet mortar]

oh wait

i forgot this dumb shenanigan existed

[vernal lion]

yes

I didn't use that

ILA is the one did that

[scarlet mortar]

i just checked arkrec and saw some CN name

yeag

[wary imp]

keeps failing Auto SK-4 despite manually doing it is fine
help?

[glass monolith]

SK and some stupid shift spaghetti desync are synonyms for me

[wary imp]

fr

[somber falcon]

You can simply lessen the steps ig
Lapp and exu should be fine for top while blaze solo bottom

How are you even accessing the stage anyways

[wary imp]

SK-4?

oh

it's specially opening rn

im a newbie

[somber falcon]

[wary imp]

forget it, imma main stage

at 4-2 rn ._.

[civic bear]

What the issue

[wary imp]

SK-4
Manual works but Auto dont

[civic bear]

Like what's the issue that made auto broke

What's the discrepancy

[wary imp]

enemy leaking due to they hits hard

[civic bear]

Where

Who died to which enemy, Caster?

[wary imp]

i forgo
may rerun it

[civic bear]

I'd assume it got smth to do with ur op getting more levels making shaw target ded so it didn't get to push some enemies fast enough

[wary imp]

hmm

[civic bear]

just guessing tho so you'd know better

[wary imp]

aight

[full terrace]

1/6

2/6

3/6

4/6

5/6

6/6 Burst boss first @harsh flax

Then setup Suzu down there

Logos - Caster 5
Suzuran - Sniper 3 Caster 2

[scarlet mortar]

suzu go brr

[full terrace]

I drafted 7 Sniper 7 Caster it was not optimal because Logos needed more Casters. I think the ideal would be drafting 9 Casters 5 Snipers

Then your Vanguard (in my case this is Ines), then a Defender and Medic.

A cheap but efficient laneholder also helps (in my case it's Ela).

Make sure to draft the ones with the lowest DP cost.

[scarlet mortar]

huh you went for caster B

thought you'd stick with A for SP

[harsh flax]

@full terrace thanks, it was such a close call in the end, those water cars and crushers(they were one shoting my defenders) were pain in the . but i managed somehow.

[north jungle]

What 's the best way to deal with this guy when forced to fight him in Strange Territory out of wet season and with no freezing units?

[spark sinew]

outdamage or bring a ton of ice bombs

[full terrace]

Yah burst the boss first, that way it cant catapult the minions at your ground units. After bursting the boss you can safely deploy Defenders etc. The exploding cars are not an issue if you use Suzu because she stops them before they get too close.

[spark sinew]

for dealing with mobs degen with -sp food or just xammo device are op

[vernal lion]

probably can't outdamage it

the buff is huge so no freezing unit will make this impossible to deal even Surtr

unless they didn't take the higher pressure

[spark sinew]

they talk about fixed commission

[north jungle]

Thanks, finally got this fucker with a few ice bombs and full abyssal and wis'adel

[pure orchid]

bruh

[acoustic slate]

Is that the t1 chip? He can do it alone if you bodyblock with one of the trustees real quick before his skill winds up

[pure orchid]

t2

i already did logos solo for t1

y4 ops are just diff

[glass monolith]

I would like to report bulling of y1 content... Also logas techically "y5"

[lapis hornet]

y0 ops are just diff

[pure orchid]

Unless thats ange s1, we aint talkin 🥱

[full terrace]

Thats how I got the big chips for Wisadel on my alt yeh #strategy message

[lapis hornet]

lol says the dude who needs to drop trust units smh

[full terrace]

LOL I didnt even pay attention to that Chiave drop 🤣

[pure orchid]

Smh i could just use a regular healer instead of skalter to remove that

But i wanna use skalter

[full terrace]

I know dw, Logos plus Ansel carried my alt. I just wanna tease you 😂

[pure orchid]

Yeah both of u teasing me

[full terrace]

Myrtle

• 8 DP, 9 secs charge, 8 secs duration
• 25 secs for +14 DP
  With Bagpipe
• 8 DP, 1 sec charge, 8 secs duration
• 17 secs for +14 DP

Elysium

• 9 DP, 11 secs charge, 8 secs duration
• 28 secs for +18 DP
  With Bagpipe
• 9 DP, 3 secs charge, 8 secs duration
• 20 secs for +18 DP

Wanqing

• 10 DP, 11 secs charge, 8 secs duration
• 29 secs for +18 DP
  With Bagpipe
• 10 DP, 3 secs charge, 8 secs duration
• 21 secs for +18 DP

Saileach

• 10 DP, 11 secs charge, 8 secs duration
• 29 secs for +18 DP
  With Bagpipe
• 10 DP, 3 secs charge, 8 secs duration
• 21 secs for +18 DP

Spending 21 secs (with Bagpipe):

• Myrtle +18 DP
• Elysium +19 DP
• Wanqing +18 DP
• Saileach +18 DP

Retreating in 21 secs (with Bagpipe):

• Myrtle +22 DP
• Elysium +23 DP
• Wanqing +23 DP
• Saileach +23 DP

[pure orchid]

What is happening here...

[civic bear]

Washed myrtle exposed

[full terrace]

Hmm? I'm just counting the DP-Generation for flags(pipe) to compare to Ines

[full terrace]

For IS I mean

Sentinel opening is kinda tight on DP

[civic bear]

Low op only used ines s3 iirc no

[full terrace]

Total DP-Generation in 31 secs, Retreat Method (with Bagpipe, no Barometric Anomaly/Disorder)

• Myrtle 31-8+14+4 = 41 DP
• Elysium 31-9+18+4 = 44 DP
• Wanqing 31-10+18+5 = 44 DP
• Saileach 31-10+18+5 = 44 DP

Ines with this much aspd #strategy message and targets to hit: 50 DP in 26 secs no Bagpipe no Retreat 😂

[forest tangle]

is enemy going that short route or wonder around first?

[full terrace]

Ines does 17 hits no relics. I believe with full pots she can do 18 hits. 9 DP Cost 5 secs charge 12 secs duration, so 26 secs for +18 DP. Seems like better than the Flags if she has targets to hit.

[civic bear]

All agents are better

Aside from puzzle

[full terrace]

Yah only problem is the target. But then again, if there is no target means there is no rush = natural DP regen is enough for deployment of other units. If there is rush, Ines has target and generate DP comparable to the Flags while laneholding 100/100 Vanguard.

[formal hedge]

They'll stay at group in the bottom left with alot of elites

At the top right there will be only few enemies

Just those sarkaz soldiers

And the boss will spawn at the top left

He deals massive damage

Well, actually not too big but he is really annoying because he's a sniper

From what i remember

[full terrace]

The top right red box? They circle around to the left. Top left red box is for boss spawn. Boss is basically Faust.

[formal hedge]

He also got invisibility

[formal hedge]

Didn't paid attention to his name

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFAninmXXYg

[digital knoll]

Is mudrock worth getting

[remote perch]

No, unless you're using the free x10 kernel pulls, maybe

Tho i rather save it for another unit

[stable jacinth]

Is there a H12-3 Abyssal Hunter run in Bilibili ? Cuz I'm not good using Bilibili to search that kind of stuff

[civic bear]

Go arkrec

[stable jacinth]

Arkrec ?

[civic bear]

En.arkrec.com

Ther should be

But yeah there is

3 op

Glad spalt ulpi

[stable jacinth]

Wait seriously?

Can u send the link here cuz I still don't know how to use the website

Oh nevermind

I figured it out

[spark sinew]

how unexpected

[vernal lion]

this shit is crazy tho

[pure orchid]

Yawn

[vernal lion]

actually I forgot to bring skyfire

my +26% arts dmg

[full terrace]

Have you done this anni on your alt? @regal frost

Wisadel wooden shield is super fun here 😂

SA reveal is also super useful. Def recommending SA to newbies

[full terrace]

@hauck @fredi I'd love to hear what your argument is, because I'm recommending SA for the free 6 Star selector.

Instead of questioning passively, I'd love a constructive argument.

[narrow pendant]

Nice @ sir

[scarlet mortar]

idk if the reveal makes for the main reason people should nab SA

it's nice to have sure

[acoustic slate]

I don’t know about that…

[civic bear]

That's why it said "is also"

[scarlet mortar]

yh i'm just not sure why it's brought up

it exists

[full terrace]

The main reason is burst, hence the "also".

[civic bear]

Tbf new player unlikely to have any reveal anyway so it's something to have

[full terrace]

Newbies that dont have Mlynar, I still think SA is better than Mountain and the others.

[scarlet mortar]

yh it's just bc he's the only burst option worth considering in that ticket

the def formula means burst is pretty valuable to have

[full terrace]

The def in there is "definitely" not defense

[scarlet mortar]

mountain and saria don't make strong additions in comparison

[scarlet mortar]

yh ik

but defense is why you want high phys dph

what were the other picks on that ticket again, mountain saria exu ??

[full terrace]

Blaze Thorns

[scarlet mortar]

ok afk options

i sleep

[full terrace]

Tbh burst is nice, but for me the appeal is still the reveal. Because with Wis/Logos borrow it's unlikely newbies will have dps issue. Invisible units are more annoying in that case.

[weak gazelle]

afk is blaze and saria
click thrice for 1 ops is not afk to me

[scarlet mortar]

more afk than chongyue

cluel

[scarlet mortar]

i tend to forget that you can borrow ops in this game

[full terrace]

There is more than 1 reason to pick SA, so I'm recommending SA.

[weak gazelle]

lol
folks who said chong afk is either blind or complete genius (sarcastic)

what SA mod again?

[scarlet mortar]

bonus arts damage

[weak gazelle]

i remember somebody said reduce his redeploy to 45 sec yesterday
is that true?

[scarlet mortar]

talent upgrades reduce rdp further if deployed on 8 tiles around him

[narrow pendant]

Shrimply use chong with the candy from high priest :clueless:

Fully afk

[full terrace]

SA mod makes him like 80~90% Mlynar, lemme grab you the vid

[scarlet mortar]

80% mlynar i think

if you don't account for downtime

[weak gazelle]

shrimply play RA as only game mode:clueless:

[pearl breach]

Is invis really a problem on this game? Even if it exists. You can just drop someone to block it.
if you bring ccb1 in gonna kiss you
Also, if you consider wis/logos borrow. Isnt that makes saria better option?? I dont understand this logic tbh.

[scarlet mortar]

no saria sucks

compartmentalization isn't an early game worry

[full terrace]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xgQPXlIZwtI&pp=ygUkQXJrbmlnaHRzIHNpbHZlcmFzaCBtb2R1bGUgdnMgbWx5bmFy

[scarlet mortar]

you can raise cuora + a medic and live fine, there's no reason to spend the 6* ticket just to get her

if anything you want as many traits that you can't just get from your early 4*s

SA has most of them (among the ops in that ticket), including reveal

[regal frost]

398, two drones leaked at the end

[full terrace]

Your ops are better than mine how did you leak it 😅

[scarlet mortar]

i'd say reveal is actually rather relevant in recent times bc HG uses it as a cheap invuln option

[full terrace]

Thorns alter seems like nice there

[regal frost]

oh this was on day 2 lol

[scarlet mortar]

so by all means SA wins

[regal frost]

before I had thorns alter

[full terrace]

I agree with cyanine on that one. I think invis enemies are getting more and more annoying lately.

[weak gazelle]

not that comparison
i am aware of that
it just how sort his rdp again with mod?

[full terrace]

Babel's Assassins were prime example

[scarlet mortar]

hate those mfs

[civic bear]

Also you don't wanna borrow all the time

For farming

[regal frost]

Babel assassins return in is5

[weak gazelle]

yeah borrow is nice
but suck when they require to repeat the map endlessly :pepelaugh:

[scarlet mortar]

ah i meant to say role compression here

[weak gazelle]

borrow it some sort of emergency move when run out of ideas or not want to suffer more

[tidal sedge]

56 seconds with module. Assuming no pots.

[pearl breach]

Bbs4 is not that hard. Only dps test. There is even a 4★ clear on that one, with only 10 ops

[civic bear]

Bbs4 cm

[scarlet mortar]

"is not that hard"

uh

[tidal sedge]

Needs 15 seconds from deployment to fire s3. So effectively 71 second cd

[civic bear]

If 4 star need a lot of ops it's a p hard map

[scarlet mortar]

wait wasn't the 4* CM record 13 ops

[civic bear]

12

[weak gazelle]

wow that fast huh
guess he got the good bargain with 12 mod block cost

[scarlet mortar]

yh that's really high

compare that to CW-S-4 CM with what, 7op

SL-S-5 CM 4* is 10op?

guess it's not the hardest stage

[pearl breach]

Is dolly even hard?

[scarlet mortar]

the stage overall's pretty annoying

[civic bear]

Dolly e1 4 can clear tho

[weak gazelle]

oh wait 80 sec redeploy is exclusive to welfare right?
70 and below are non welfare right?

[scarlet mortar]

when the mechanic carries

[tidal sedge]

That's right. Though welfare pots bring them to 70 unless you skip/miss them.

[weak gazelle]

oh nice
seem like i am not that forgetful lol

[full terrace]

Yeah true, I completely agree. Kyostin needed Degen+Shu and told his viewers to come back next year if they cant clear it, and LeoTse needed Mlynar + Shu. I'd say BB-S-4 CM is one of the hardest event stages we currently have.

[weak gazelle]

yeah 71 sec effectively for sa s3m3 mod3 is a good bargain

[scarlet mortar]

BB-S-4 CM profits entirely from statchecking you, even before considering the tile restrictions and stealth assassins imo

not much you can do with the chains to prevent assassins and mechs from clapping your poor cuora, other than buying you enough time to kill them

[weak gazelle]

even bubble -atk didnt prevent assasins from clapping her?

[scarlet mortar]

i mean, if your ops aren't E2L40+ you're kinda boned

E1L1 looking like a fiesta out here

damage go brr

[civic bear]

Dps check is the heaviest

Bunch of assassin

15s window

With 4s level dps

[weak gazelle]

well its babel assassins
not much you can do to work around it

[scarlet mortar]

oh wait

naw they used virtuosa S2 on firewhistle

[full terrace]

Also about the relevancy of reveal/invis, what cyanine pointed out is actually true if you pay a closer attention:

• Babel's Assassins
• Icebreaker Game's Degen revival
• CCB#2 high risk Reefbreaker thingies
  These events are pretty recent. HG tryna make invis enemies staple or somethin.

[scarlet mortar]

i hate e.dmg fr

[weak gazelle]

i even have no idea how e.dmg work

[tidal sedge]

Virt s2 is a funny skill.

[vernal lion]

Mlynar wins about true dmg, while SA wins about arts dmg,
but both doesn't like mob with high HP

[civic bear]

Current cn event

Invis stair guy

But cm tile ban

[scarlet mortar]

[vernal lion]

if you want a real comparison, just test both in RA, to the iron tho

Mlynar being shittier than SA while farming iron

[full terrace]

I still havent found time for RA sigh

[vernal lion]

iirc iron has 120.000 HP

[tidal sedge]

Theres more instances than that. CCB1 has flying invisible enemies depending on risk combos. Here a People Sows has those shrimps who are invis in blighted water, so invis reveal makes it easier to contain blight to one zone without putting a blocker into blighted water.

[scarlet mortar]

stealth's almost in every other event tbh

[full terrace]

Yeah, I just listed a few annoying ones I remember

[scarlet mortar]

HG hates people pointing damage at the problem

[full terrace]

Thats what I feel yeah

They tryna force players to play with mechanics

[tidal sedge]

Sentinel module being invis reveal signals they want invis reveal to be kinda accessible for such purposes. Or so it reads to me and sell Ines harder

[full terrace]

Now especially post-Wisadel

[weak gazelle]

i blame hg for focusing on selling dmg ops too much

[civic bear]

But that's what ppl love

[vernal lion]

those babel assassins still annoy af

the moment when they give invisible + dodge rate that means you have to play with their rule

[weak gazelle]

that much is true
when supply meet the demand
revenue is the justice :ya:

[near folio]

They seem fine tbh

Aside from boosted first hit dmg, a lot of ops can play by their rules

[vernal lion]

only when you use the chain

also dashing if hp < 50%

so higher chance if you didn't plan that first, they just dash away without getting chained

[glass monolith]

Dash is not canceled by chain, and while not chained they can dodge as long as they like

[near folio]

Might just be bias since I actually liked the Babel mechanic

And Jessicat does pretty well against their antics

[glass monolith]

I don't oppose it, but fuck assassins anyway

And 10/10 how they spawn in EX or was it S stage

[near folio]

EX-8

[glass monolith]

One walk in and then game helidrop like 10 more on his wait tile

[near folio]

Nice job from HG with that one guy splitting into 4

[wide sail]

insanely horn s1 pilled stage they cooked

[vernal lion]

what I mean is, they get away while not getting chained, make thing more worse

chain doesn't do anything to the dash

[near folio]

Ngl the chain mechanic is pretty iffy, you get awkward chains sometimes since it chains based on deployment order

[wide sail]

its better that way more control than proximity

though less intuitive for sure

[glass monolith]

Luckily I have a certificate of "please don't play Factorio ever again" so I chained all over the place... Also dollkeeper/ambusher abuse

[near folio]

Imagine hookmasters can sacrifice attacking to be able to chain another op

[vernal lion]

robot is useful tho

[wary imp]

nuh uh?

[vernal lion]

in Babel event

[wary imp]

?

[vernal lion]

actually, you didn't know that

the chain mechanism

[wary imp]

so true...

[remote perch]

[civic bear]

It is fairly easy when you abuse 6*

Others get cucked p hard

Degen kills one assassin in 1 skill. Tequila kills one in full duration xd

[near folio]

Damn Moduless Thorns still really struggled

[opaque bridge]

man I hate multitasking….

[vernal lion]

don't worry, RA is pure multitasking too

[opaque bridge]

guide?

[spark sinew]

just win?

[opaque bridge]

12-7 adverse

[full terrace]

Alright lemme check that one out real quick

12-7 is not that difficult. You just need to deploy ops with 20 or fewer DP.

I just finished a practice run with Ela and Ines.

[full terrace]

Oh and some cheap Defenders to investigate the civillians as well.

[vernal lion]

defender robot being good once again

[full terrace]

The only threat in 12-7 is those unblockable big thingies

Eh.. actually blockable with Defenders

But I suggest you not to block

Better slow them down with Suzu or Asca

[scarlet mortar]

those guys look very threatening but they don't immediately head to the blue box iirc

so just check civs while someone else slows them for good measure

i remember panicking when one leaked past the defender on my right only for mf to loop around

[opaque bridge]

multitasking sure is hard xd

[scarlet mortar]

pause often

also keep selecting some op to stay in bullet time

wait tf, the guys on the right loop twice?

[opaque bridge]

huh

I keep failing due to two blue boxes

[lapis hornet]

play afk no more multitasking

[scarlet mortar]

pausing helps you check what might leak

[civic bear]

What the issue

[scarlet mortar]

i spend half my play time paused, really can't understate how much it helps keeping track of multiple lanes

[glass monolith]

If I lose track of wtf is going on I record to rewatch

[civic bear]

Isn't this 2 lane

A corner is basicly considered one

[scarlet mortar]

yh it's pretty straightforward

mooks on top right pile onto the blocker

dps fat guys as they walk through

cover enough range to prevent civ taking up block

[opaque bridge]

mostly civvy checking and holding the right

[civic bear]

First mob on the left comes around 30 dp

Right side is 60 dp

What exactly is the issue here huh

[opaque bridge]

the left side takes a bit longer than I expected to do papers

and idk whick lane to focus fire on

[scarlet mortar]

both

[civic bear]

Left you want as much block

[scarlet mortar]

the mob lineup's the same on both sides, right side just looks smaller

[civic bear]

But yeah DPS on both side

[scarlet mortar]

left side add some block for civs yh

[civic bear]

You got wisadel

And chalter

So wisadel left right chalter

Don't have 3 blocks on the right ideally

Let the big guy rotate around

This not relevant for left cuz you setup near blue box

And they go around on the left bottom squares

Wait no not all of them rotates around

So I guess you do need block3 then

Or just DPS em

Chalter ela yay

[vernal lion]

the bottom left is only stealth spy and tyrant,
mobs usually come from middle box and go to top and right so just camp middle box most of time

[full terrace]

Here you go, Ling solo

[opaque bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-ling-gaming-gif-27406388

[full terrace]

Coz Chapter 12 is all about blocking

[scarlet mortar]

blue woman pov

i like those stages which lower the cap even further

just bc 4-block dragons exist which only need 20 DP cap

[opaque bridge]

???? wha

[vernal lion]

have you even read the mechanism

[opaque bridge]

yes

[vernal lion]

you need to detect it if that civilian is an ally or enemy,
detect it by keeping it inside the ranged attack of op,
or simply block it (but will take 1 block count to that op)

if the magnifying glass is cyan color, that's ally
if red color, that's enemy

some civilian has special interaction too, like the heavy armor spy will move slowly even in civilian form,
and boss will always be known due to its invulnerable yellow glow around it

[digital folio]

Who should i build for this stage

[astral cosmos]

btw if you're fine with borrowing you can, it's not like you'll be farming LS-5. it's marketed as a farming stage but it's very inefficient. your main exp income is from your base and farming LS-5 is only if you're absolutely desperate

[worthy mason]

if cant do it now then later, there is no time limit for this

[vernal lion]

just skip it for now, it's not worth 1 for newbie

you can come back anytime

[digital folio]

I just want spend my sanity

[astral cosmos]

clear it once or ignore it, and go spend your sanity on more useful farming stages

[vernal lion]

farm skill book

even now I'm thirsty for it lol

[digital folio]

Like material upgarde base?

[astral cosmos]

if your base isn't maxed, yes

[digital folio]

Okay

[vernal lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1038633605049634877/2022-02-12_01-00-27.mp4?ex=67637dec&is=67622c6c&hm=769e0115a55a14724049ac624142b68ea3b16bb37134a6dd7124dccfd093d716&

if you want a reference for LS-5, you can check the video

[astral cosmos]

@shell plank do u need fia just for one clear or perma

[shell plank]

Perma
I forgot to state it

[brittle radish]

790pts doable on underdawn?

*i can only pick ines

lin on mod1

[full terrace]

What other ops do you have? @stiff beacon

[stiff beacon]

uhhh

[brittle radish]

just show me ur roster

[stiff beacon]

https://krooster.com/u/HyperHypa

[full terrace]

I forgot what the class ban risk combo was, but the idea for Reefbreaker Lin stalling is basically having them on very fast aspd and keep hitting Lin. If you reduce their aspd even by just a bit, they will move 0.x tile per second, moving away from Lin, and potentially demolish your other ops and breach your formation. As for those dodgy birdrunners, if you use Virtuosa you shouldnt have any issue with them, but if you do, do take ops that Silence enemies, ignore dodge, or do True Damage. Gnosis is also an option there. The top-right big thingies idle there for awhile, so take this chance to nuke them as much as you can before they start walking away. If you can kill them before they walk away that would be best.

Ceobe with module helps with dps as long as you position her perfectly

Also you need an anti-stealth for Reefbreakers. Ines is ideal.

[stiff beacon]

i'll be right back, i'm going to take shower first

[full terrace]

Ah okay I see Degen was a borrow. Ela can help you lanehold the etc stuff, just make sure she is not on ground tile and she is properly healed. Dont forget to point her away from the boss otherwise she is perma frozen and things will leak. Whenever you are about to slash with Degen, drop Ela's bomb at the boss first. Last but not least, activate and deactivate Ela's skill often to get more Mines, and drop the Mines on the boss regularly to slow him down, this buys you time for Degen to recharge her skill. Cheap Decel Binder like Orchid also helps.

Oh one more thing, a very important one

Try to enter Encounter nodes as much as possible and find the Knight Corpus relic.

This will reduce the boss's Defense by 80% and make your fight much much easier.

If Degen doesnt work, you can also borrow Typhon.

Her S3 can hits the boss pretty hard.

[stiff beacon]

Damn, should I always go to encounter nodes then?

Because I’ve been mostly aiming for safe house > wish > transport > battle > encounter

[full terrace]

Oh wait no no no, I confused TLK with Eik, lemme edit the last bit

[full terrace]

Yes if you want a smooth Ending 2

Corpus helps a lot

[stiff beacon]

Gotcha

[full terrace]

Also idk if I should recommend this since your ops are lacking but

[stiff beacon]

wait is more better to do battle or encounter nodes in general?

[full terrace]

If you have Keys, you can enter the Wonderland and get more fights for more resources.

[full terrace]

In general fights are better

[glass monolith]

Or get facerolled by IS1 boss

[stiff beacon]

Those accidental curiosity nodes?

[full terrace]

Wander into Wonderland.

Entering the Wonderland will take you to a bossfight vs IS1 bosses

[stiff beacon]

Gotcha I’ll start targeting encounter nodes after the first boss

[glass monolith]

You can see them on map in advance if they present on floor

[full terrace]

And get facerolled like Minus said.

[glass monolith]

Fun part - It always has like floor 5 stages etc. But bullshit can just appear at start of floor 3, have fun

[stiff beacon]

The one drone stage absolutely crippled me with only ela

Actually does degen s3 hit air?

[full terrace]

Yes Degen hits air

She is just that broken

[stiff beacon]

Oh damn

[full terrace]

Idk what your TW text is showing you, but this is the Corpus I mentioned.

[glass monolith]

Which includes HP DEF during this escort mission so bro instantly gets eaten by dogs with his 200 def

[full terrace]

Yeah what Minus said. If the knight is still with you (before entering floor 4 iirc), he becomes very fragile, you have to protect him.

But then again, d0 shouldnt be that much of a problem, bro can prob take a few hits and live.

[stiff beacon]

ah yeah i've gotten it like only once before

[stiff beacon]

@full terrace I have skill issue

Bemishine did not make it sleep

[glass monolith]

If only we had relic to do damage on deploy to drop Gravel one more time

[tidal sedge]

What difficulty was this?

Oh D0.

Because no way he did that much damage to the boss with just Degen and Mosti.

is logos's s2 better than s3 in boss killing

[glass monolith]

Well techically if you get it to lock on boss it is kind of better but like uh... Fuck it i can't calculate his talent 1, module 2/3 and necrosis proc

Someone killed Lazor firing boss in H14 with S2 Logos but it had entire buff army in there

Oh and i forgot trust (slams close on calculator and goes to do something else with my life)

Wait does his S3 target same enemy if not enough enemies in range?

[lapis hornet]

s3 more total dmg in theory

s2 higher dps if it matters

but uh

very few practical examples of s2 over s3 out there that I can see

[acoustic slate]

Something something

S2 good for single enemy because all the extra talent procs will hit the one enemy (not to mention targetting)

S3 good for many enemies (including boss) because more targets = more talent procs

[smoky halo]

ril?

isnt talent proc random enemy in range?

[acoustic slate]

No idea but that feels right

[smoky halo]

well if theres 2 enemies s3 wins by default anyway

[acoustic slate]

Yes but if you have many enemies then you might as well get as many procs as you can

Since they’ll target randomly anyway

Maybe I can test since I have to start playing RA again

S2 for sands s3 for eternity
Surely

[glass monolith]

S3 is 2 attacks in 3.2, S2 is 6 attacks in 3.0

Oh however it works

[smoky halo]

i mean in IS where aspd buffs are common

u just run s3 cause s2 fixed interval L

[acoustic slate]

True

[smoky halo]

ig if ur unlucky and no aspd

[acoustic slate]

Just have 20 index

[wind fiber]

guys what are good supports for ending4?

[regal frost]

ask #is-station you'll get a quicker answer

[wind fiber]

oh

[spark sinew]

it's just suzu

questionable as such an early pick though, with ela

[wind fiber]

i saw some vids of this korean guy

using ela in his ending4 clears

[regal frost]

was probably d15

[spark sinew]

yeah ela is super good

[regal frost]

[spark sinew]

tbf it's mostly supporters sucking

[wind fiber]

yeah if im gonna pick suzu

i might aswell be saving

for more core units

[spark sinew]

bards for ed4 is...why
mag ange are no
stainless ling not needed

gnosis is basically worse suzu

and that's with your lineup actually being quite good

[wind fiber]

I think i trigger ending2?

[spark sinew]

probably overkilling d7 super badly anyway though

[wind fiber]

I did the invitation encounter

And it dropped dimensional fluid

[opaque bridge]

my only trouble with this map is one car leaking on the right side of defenses, should this fix it?

[civic bear]

Chalter facing left hits all 3 lane same with wisadel

The cars just need slight touch for it to explode no

[opaque bridge]

the corrosion might be a problem so I just borrow a healer...?

[civic bear]

Yes

[opaque bridge]

(it keeps giving me mulberry ._.)

[civic bear]

Ur worry is just the ship guy but like

The red thing

If you deal enough dmg it just keep walking and then explode near blue box

[opaque bridge]

those explosive boats?

[civic bear]

Those almost kills themselves

[opaque bridge]

so i just hit them slightly but dont completely kill them on the spot...?

[civic bear]

Yes

Prob hard to do with wisadel slowing them bunch but

Just don't face her that way lol

[glad forge]

dont those boats lose hp? would spamming ela mine be enough for them to die?

[civic bear]

Should be

There's lots of them idk if ela mine is efficient tho

[tidal sedge]

How the hell do i defeat DM-EX-5

[civic bear]

That better not be the trapezoid map

Just don't touch the line

The flag guy just goes around and round until all other mobs go in blue box

Just ignore flag guy. Handle both lane

U can slowly wake up the sword guy one by one with a frd or anyone really

[sly drift]

Bruh.. It's insane how I still can't find any Rosmontis IS module showcase anywhere

[tiny ore]

Ignore the flag guy

If you are in normal mode you can bait the big guys to go into frenzy mode with a fast redeploy (gravel)

But just dont hit the flag guy as he will trigger all of the big guys to go frenzy

[full terrace]

Use Ulpianus's skill at the end to kill the last 2 enemies. I didnt finish the video because I'm out of practice plans earlier to test some stuff.

I believe using 3 Stars also works. I used 4 Stars for stability but as you can see it was overkill, nobody is dying.

[twin jetty]

surely i can beat it now

[keen gull]

Wisadel can solo it

[twin jetty]

she died to the sniper (tried placing ptilo, she got twoshotted and died )

[dapper hedge]

How did she even die why does she not camo'ed

[nocturne cove]

???

Did she not have revenant

[twin jetty]

reve waht?

[late bane]

Her summon

[twin jetty]

ah, yeah, they died to the sniper aswell (and sandstorm)

[nocturne cove]

Sandstorm

Not the snipers

You should build the pillars

And then you're set

[twin jetty]

i did, but the snipers also did lots of the damage to the summons

[late bane]

They dont attack unless sandstorm

[nocturne cove]

They won't target her summons

Or well

One summon

So immortal

[twin jetty]

that's new, welp i guess its just a case of skill issue on my part

[nocturne cove]

Reading is a very good skill

[maiden hound]

EN moment

[glass monolith]

So it is Skullshutter who spec into global range + invis + reduced melee dmg build instead def down + splash + reduced ranged dmg

[full terrace]

@regal frost my alt just beaten Mandra 😂

Wisadel SL7 can 2 cycle Mandra

M3 should be much much easier

[nocturne cove]

Wait

That's quite some progress

Didnt you just start a week or two ago?

[full terrace]

Yeah roughly that long

[nocturne cove]

Wow

[glass monolith]

Bro be speedrunning

[near folio]

Susie not in shop

Looks like I have to keep borrowing GG then

[nocturne cove]

Borrow mine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1315667625950314537/suzumoriTMW_-_1865759901156618338.gif

[digital echo]

I want to be able to clear SN-10 to get Lumen's letter but keeps failing, is there any chance with my current units? Or do I need to grind some more

[full terrace]

Looks pretty solid start to me. Lemme spend some practice plans to refresh my memory, I'll get back to you.

[digital echo]

Thank you! Take your time

[lyric condor]

Otherwise, just borrow someone.

[digital echo]

I've been borrowing my friend's Wisandel

cus idk who else to borrow

[civic bear]

sn-10 is more of mechanic check

but

borrowing those who stuns are pretty good

so wisadel

[high warren]

There no ling solo shenanigans?

[glass monolith]

There are "I killed boss 5 tiles further compared to clear video, why boss next phase spawns where I killed boss instead like in video" shenanigans

[wary imp]

wisadel is just a game breaker

[full terrace]

@digital echo borrow a max pot Wis from #friend-id

[vernal lion]

[scarlet mortar]

i vaguely remember a wis solo existing

not sure if it's real bc of the other lane

but it's wis so like

[vernal lion]

I don't think that's a thing

[scarlet mortar]

it

fucking exists

[lapis hornet]

there's a ray solo

who cares about wis zzz

[scarlet mortar]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kM4m1Z7kY

[scarlet mortar]

bc ray is good op

and wis is design failure

[lapis hornet]

both probs rng tho

[scarlet mortar]

yh looks like crit RNG for wis

[vernal lion]

rng goat

[civic bear]

Ray got no rng bro

Deterministic op

She pro like that

[lapis hornet]

glancing through the clear she needs some hits against the dodgers

nothing insane tho

[civic bear]

Pepe better tho

[glass monolith]

Ines is more design failure than Wisadel and it is hill I will die on

[civic bear]

It's ok u can die alone

We all do

[spark sinew]

dare i ask why

[vernal lion]

wait for DOS back to test Wis

[full terrace]

Savage.

[wary imp]

do u guys think this roster can do ce-5?

[full terrace]

Seems possible but I dont wanna go and test it

If you borrow a unit then sure thats a clean clear

[wary imp]

i wanna auto tho

[full terrace]

Dont auto Cargo Escort..

[wary imp]

I need Monee

MONEEEE

[full terrace]

Optimize your base

[wary imp]

Only then i can do more main story

[wary imp]

did u see any improvements?

[spark sinew]

why tf would you auto ce5

some 2020 strats

[wary imp]

need more monee to upgrade my squad

ofc i could borrow wis for main story but

yeah 😐

[vernal lion]

something will never come back

the event shop

those things were rich

[full terrace]

You want quick money? Borrow Wis and farm ISes.

[wary imp]

IS?

[full terrace]

You could even farm RA with the 3 days wipe method

[wary imp]

hmmm

[spark sinew]

ce 6 exist 🫡

although frankly doing red certs and chips should still be much better

[wary imp]

lmao i dont even pass ce5

[spark sinew]

long term obviously

[wary imp]

hmm ye

though im doing annihilation (again)
gotta fully clear it, at 330+ kills rn

[spark sinew]

borrow

[wary imp]

hell naw i wanna total proxy it
2 lazy

[spark sinew]

you won't need to auto anni1 because even anni2 should be easy to clear for you

hell, anni3 probably as well

[wary imp]

maybe

[wary imp]

10k for 36 sanity
sounds like not very efficient

[vernal lion]

indeed

but money is money

when you need it, you need it

[wary imp]

my current riic build only gives me like ~2-3k/hr

[spark sinew]

good thing you never need it 🫡

[wary imp]

so i resort to CE 😐

[civic bear]

I saw the squad

[wary imp]

i cant skull react 😐

[civic bear]

Definitely can

[wary imp]

no
it cant
prob bad squad positioning

[spark sinew]

sorry i did it for my own sanity

[civic bear]

It can if u skilled

[spark sinew]

can't handle 50 pings a minute

[wary imp]

[civic bear]

Damn u got Ceylon as St medic huh

[smoky halo]

lmao

pinging hauck

[civic bear]

Blaze at top healing tile

Facing down

Medic on her left

Then y'know do the

oo
ox
ox

[full terrace]

ox

I won the tic tac toe

[wary imp]

better choice than myrrh tho

[civic bear]

Is she

[wary imp]

[wary imp]

large heal range

like 3x3 + 1x3 every sides but the back

[vernal lion]

therapist gets nerf healing when heal the op afar

[civic bear]

Range is something yes but

[spark sinew]

op op

[wary imp]

😐

[civic bear]

Keeping shit alive is number 1 priority

[smoky halo]

compare hps now

a theoretical global range medic that heals for 1 hp/s will suck

[wary imp]

hmm
yeah

[civic bear]

Kinda similar

Just diff burst

[wary imp]

ye

[civic bear]

Granted myrrh heals 2

So technically

A bit better under same investment

Well if u got nothing better just make do with what u have ig

[wary imp]

screw that imma 3 healers 😐
-# /j

[digital echo]

thank you!! :D I'll try it out

[full terrace]

No problem, enjoy your game.

[regal frost]

I haven't even done chapter 5 lol

[full terrace]

You dont need no high-end mats for Elite 2 or Module or Mastery?

The ones from Chapter 9 and beyond

Thought you got Thorns alter, he is the newest operator

I need to push for Chapter 13 coz Wisadel is so demanding 😂

[primal folio]

How do I beat this

[full terrace]

Oh my alt just beat this earlier

My memory is still fresh

Wisadel can 2 cycle Mandra

And Lappland can lanehold the right side

It's a race for DP tho, you need a good DP-Generator

So basically:

1. Vanguard on left side to generate DP and prepare your laneholder(s) there.
2. Prepare the top 2 pillars using cheap units like Gravel and Plume/Vigna but retreat them before they knock the pillars down.
3. Deploy Wisadel on red circle facing left.
4. Deploy Lappland on yellow circle facing up.
5. Medic on purple circle and Defender on blue circle to block enemies for Lappland.
6. Optionally, as an insurance, if you pick SilverAsh from the 6 Star selector and E2-ed him, put him on the white circle facing up. If you dont have him its fine.

Now if you generate DP fast enough and prepared the pillars as well as deploying Wisadel before Mandragora starts walking, you are on the right track. When Mandra starts walking and entered Wisadel's attack range, activate Wisadel's skill and spend all bullets on her. Prepare the 3rd pillar while Wis is shooting. Again, dont forget to retreat the unit before he/she knocks down the pillar.
When Mandra enters the orange squared tile, deploy a cheap unit to push the pillar down from the left. She will walk to the right and briefly stops on the yellow squared tile. Push the other pillar down from the right when this happened - this should take care of her Phase 1 (this strat was done on SL7 Wis so I'd say it's quite stable if you brought one with M3).

After entering Phase 2, Mandra will fly, wait for her to enter the light green square and then push the pillar down from the right. As soon as the pillar fell, activate Wisadel skill (and SilverAsh skill if you have him). When Mandra starts walking down, throw some bodies at her in the red cross tile and keep pushing her back so that she stays longer in Wisadel range. That should take care of her Phase 2.

[glass monolith]

Long time before it was stall phase 1 fiesta for me.... #strategy message Now it is free RMA

[full terrace]

I did the Phase 1 stall strat too

Now it's Wisadel era 😂

[full terrace]

I dont wanna make a recording for this coz the stage is hella long, compression's gonna take forever and quality will be super bad. But here is the proof of concept #strategy message that the strat will work. I didnt draw on the left side because everyone got different units for that one, strat differs depending on your units. On the right side, every newbie should have access to them:

• Wisadel is a Support Unit
• E2 Lv80 Lappland is newbie starting unit nowadays
• SilverAsh if you spend your 6 Star selector on him
  Another thing to pay attention to, is the Gargoyles near the end. Right side is safe because Wisadel is there. After Lappland activated her S2 and slashed the Phase 1 Gargoyle, it will fly toward the blue box and Wisadel will shoot it down. But the left side, you have to be careful. If you are struggling you can make good use of the pillar - push it down after you group all the Gargoyles.

[topaz fog]

@civic bear

this is what im using

[civic bear]

yeah and whats the issue

retreat that

wisadel summon

above her

might kill sus

[topaz fog]

i see

[civic bear]

also bro

whats the point of using ulpian

without gladiia

you got saria

modded even no

saria heals herself

and others

infinitely better

[full terrace]

Ah you have Wisadel, just blast them #strategy message

[civic bear]

thats all the change

and you win

also what is that surtr placement anyway

surtr can hit targets

if you wnna dps jut surtr from the right hits all three

2 medic 2 defender, wisadel kaltsit monster thats 7 deploy slots. 8th slot cycles thru reed/surtr 9 slots is for anything else (prob texas)

[topaz fog]

lets use this then

[topaz fog]

ah i see

[civic bear]

brah u got gladiia even

then use her

[glass monolith]

#strategy message Here recording of how NOT TO phase 2 with "phase 1 stall cheese"

[topaz fog]

ah ok

[glass monolith]

That's clear for 9-21 dude, you at H12? I can slap you on back, that is shit

[civic bear]

you do have too much op thats gnna block boss tho

you only need two

kaltsit+m3 no much use at least until the later part (4th clone) so you can retreat. texas can kill that lane mobs anyway

[topaz fog]

do i need to deploy gladia in feild for ulpian buff?

[civic bear]

yes

just retreat kaltsit

and slot gladiia on the right instead

ur team is so strong that all the extra ops unmentioned ops arent even useful anymore

[topaz fog]

haha i also have lot other dps's etc.. its just skill issue

[civic bear]

2 medic
ulpian left saria/hoshi right boss
wisadel dps
gladiia right lane
texalt helps anywhere (primarily right)

this setup is more than enough to be stable

[topaz fog]

this is what i did?

[civic bear]

you win that

unloseable

[topaz fog]

idk how gladia died and ulpian exploded...

[civic bear]

its not skill issue

is gladiia last deployed...

[topaz fog]

yes

[civic bear]

bro did you not read my message back then

[full terrace]

When Damazti enters Phase 2, she demands sacrifice

🤦

[civic bear]

look

you dont have a skill issue here

what you have is a reading issue

[full terrace]

Prob just didnt read

Yea

[civic bear]

just read what the boss do

and you will 100% just get it instantly

[topaz fog]

i was so close... i got it

need to deploy a bait at last, when 2nd phase

[civic bear]

the boss eats an operator that has no any other operator within 8 tiles nearby. (in this case its NG) so the boss will eat NG

[full terrace]

When you kill Damazti Phase 1, drop your Myrtle far far away isolated from the rest.

Damazti eats her and spawns the 4th clone.

[civic bear]

no dont say that

his myrtle gnna die from

the drone

[topaz fog]

i didnt even knew

[glass monolith]

He eats on 50% phase 2, not phase 1 death

[civic bear]

deploy myrtle when boss is on phase 2

around 60% hp

[topaz fog]

ah i see

i should watch the guide posted by u

It was Ayfnir

[civic bear]

wha i never post a guide

oh

wait that wasnt for this stage bro

[topaz fog]

they posted weis adel one

[full terrace]

Myrtle will not die from drones and Wisadel shoots faster than you think. I always deploy her right after entering Phase 2 and she eats that Myrtle just fine.

[topaz fog]

@civic bear no he did

[glass monolith]

Elemental damage proc goes brrrrrrr