#strategy

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spark sinew
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yeah not arguing there
was just confused why they replied to my message

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penance also gains shield based on her hp, so she loses way more

vocal leaf
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i literally have the video if you want to see it

near folio
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Damn, that actually makes or breaks the run?

vocal leaf
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well apparently she can solo with that

near folio
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I see

vocal leaf
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does yours actually die before getting her skill activated?

near folio
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Especially when the mobs get max energy

lapis hornet
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sometimes a clear works with 30 more hp

near folio
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That's when I'll have to pull shamare doll out

lapis hornet
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lvl 90 doesn't matter until it does kekw

near folio
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So she was fighting skullshatterers yeah

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Those guys can probably kill a penance offskill

vocal leaf
near folio
lapis hornet
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too bad can't try

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i probs used mud left with gg yo cover left and middle

opal anvil
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ulpipi s3 nuke work with buff?

near folio
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Yes

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His S3 anchor throw gets all the buffs from his current deployment until he redeploys after the anchor hit

pure orchid
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I love using that expression lol

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even if it doesnt make sense most of the time

foggy grove
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for one he already has big atk buff on s3

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and it's tricky to buff

near folio
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Yeah there arent a lot of buffs you can get meaningful mileage from when using ulpian s3

opaque bridge
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what do I take note of on this bad map design

vernal lion
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deploy ranged op first

dapper hedge
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Bring robots

scarlet mortar
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lancet carry, or sth

glass monolith
opaque bridge
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where's eyjaberry when I need one HellaHands

vernal lion
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honeyberry, take it or leave

opaque bridge
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shit my dumbass pressed on M0-1

civic bear
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there barely any threats in that stage

near folio
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Chestnut moment

civic bear
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u just put marksman

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its all about the drone

scarlet mortar
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once you place lancet down and then 2 ground ops the stage basically plays like normal

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or a marksman

civic bear
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range is the only issue really

vernal lion
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top is drone, bottom is balloon

foggy grove
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ela wis duo 💤

spark sinew
full terrace
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Because cant Wis first deploy WarSmug

narrow pendant
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I mean, you can

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No?

full terrace
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Eh I thought Vanguard first is needed, I could remember it wrong

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Actually you can, I take that back

narrow pendant
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U cant event deploy a vgs thats not a tactitian

full terrace
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Idk why I remember Vanguard first is needed

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Lancet - Vanguard

opaque bridge
dapper hedge
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That's why I said this

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They cost cheap dirt

wary imp
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oh

dapper hedge
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3dp

lapis hornet
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vanguards are never needed

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outside dp down

civic bear
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vg are liability

foggy grove
lapis hornet
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it's ok he has wis whats' a mechanic

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can it repair my car or smth

opaque bridge
foggy grove
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wis it

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💤

dapper hedge
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Kill them from range

civic bear
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either stun it

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so it doesnt do the chain attack

foggy grove
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wis pet can literally bait it

civic bear
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or kill it from afar ye

vernal lion
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Wis: *existed
Cellist mob when Melancholic: kekw

opaque bridge
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turns out all I needed was an Ines

glass monolith
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Which once again confirms, doesn't matter how BS is Walter. Ines is more BS

pure orchid
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Ines better than wis real?

opaque bridge
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ok so I just need a Horn for this…?

vernal lion
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not really

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assassin with dodge is ass

pure orchid
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Horn is pretty good

opaque bridge
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...nvm the speed is kinda wacky

full terrace
celest bluff
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right, the tile need to be normal

narrow pendant
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He do be ballin'

celest ocean
glass monolith
wicked briar
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Do I module lvl 3 on ray???

scarlet fulcrum
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Sure, whats the point of modding ray without lv3

regal frost
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@full terrace I thought you'd like this

narrow pendant
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Lol

regal frost
glass monolith
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never understood mentality of picking f2p game, cash in all BP monthly etc which you see, then play 1 hour leave 1 star review

zinc flume
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Shame you can't see how much time they played unlike steam reviewsMatilDumb

glass monolith
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(Look on myself quiting AK in 2020 on like 2-3) SurtrDumb

near folio
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I took long breaks from AK before

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CC4-CC9 I went away from AK

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but AK truly is the best mobile game

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So im here now

celest bluff
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TR-15

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The large filter

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The Great Filter

near folio
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But I made the mistake of introducing him to Walter in BP-8 ReedBean

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Now hes gonna get corrupted

glass monolith
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At least you didn't introduce him to Ines

untold flame
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How the heck do I attempt this level?

narrow pendant
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?

untold flame
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Like my experience with her is she can't damage to save her life... Although she's really good with chip damaging

regal frost
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huh

untold flame
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Do I just make a team full of armors and have her continue chip damaging hoping she kills em?

regal frost
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just use s2

narrow pendant
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What?
Just plop her down in the chokepoint, give her a healer, some tanker behind her and she'll "aolo" thw stage

regal frost
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with a medic

narrow pendant
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Ascalon has great dmg

untold flame
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She does enough damage on that stage? This one specifically swarms you with groups of like 20 enemies at once

untold flame
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Great stage for Kirin to shine but does ascalon do that much damage?

narrow pendant
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Yes?

untold flame
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Hmm ok

narrow pendant
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Have you tried using her there

regal frost
narrow pendant
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She hits everyone in range for like 2k dmgBnuuy

spark sinew
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where the hell did you use her before

untold flame
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This good?

untold flame
spark sinew
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that's crazy then

regal frost
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bring a blocker just incase

untold flame
narrow pendant
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And s2 skalter

spark sinew
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shr kills like majority of enemies until they go out of her range

narrow pendant
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Or well, ig it doesnt matter

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Why does this feel like ai

untold flame
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Which armor sucks at damage here?

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I'm pretty sure it's saria or hoshiguma but idk I'm not good at this game

spark sinew
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it doesn't matter

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nothing will survive anyway

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also you're super underrating asca for some reason

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she would have no problems killing enough enemies even if you try to killsteal

untold flame
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Because I attribute most of her damage to the poison effect she has

spark sinew
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you know poison will also count as her kill, right...

untold flame
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But then again I've not used s2 yet

regal frost
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you only have to kill 30 enemies, the stage has over 100 you'll be fine

spark sinew
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dude

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did you use s3

untold flame
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I used s2

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I've just been using s3

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Thanks for your help.

regal frost
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S2 is her best skill

untold flame
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I see

untold flame
regal frost
warped smelt
spark sinew
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what wipes you?

warped smelt
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Boss

spark sinew
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phase2 i assume
you want to burst it asap but logos shu surtr should do that if you time the carts

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not enough damage?

warped smelt
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Maybe i try this for last time

spark sinew
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phantom2 and thorns3 probably ain't doing shit here

warped smelt
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Should i use

spark sinew
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lemme ask my crystall ball

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so i will know what you have

warped smelt
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Xd

warped smelt
spark sinew
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is this really an ifrit angle

warped smelt
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🙂

spark sinew
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would definitely try with ifrit first

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she's gonna add a lot of damage to logos surtr

wary wing
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quartz being your only 4star E2 is wild

modern copper
full terrace
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Broken video as always

glass monolith
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I would just upload on your personal xXx_SurtrFan youtube or something, at least wouldn't trigger my mistrust to any attached files online

opaque bridge
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the last challenge

what do I borrow

foggy grove
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wisadel solo that

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but you can borrow lin or mlynar if you want

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💤

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or logos or anything

opaque bridge
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literally cancer

glass monolith
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BP-EX-6 give me more brain damage

opaque bridge
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DV EX completed

lapis hornet
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this mf doing everything except event

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gg wp

scarlet fulcrum
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Desperate for pulls maybe

opaque bridge
scarlet fulcrum
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He meant farming mats on event stage

opaque bridge
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this man doesn't even hve anything to craft

scarlet fulcrum
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Ask google

near folio
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I had to flush out 20 sanity bars on 2 days left

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I forgot how it was like to own a monthly card for so long

modern copper
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i fucked this up, send help

pure raven
dapper hedge
pure raven
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oh woops

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either way, maybe borrow a logos

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and you can have wisadel on the far right instead

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S1 is very good for this section

somber falcon
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Just solo the right with zuo le s3

pure orchid
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You had a bigger problem right side

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Your wis timing could also be better

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it's ammo-based, remember to stop the skill manually if you don't need it

pure raven
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lemme see if i can fry my recording to less than 500mb

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do u happen to have a therapist medic btw @modern copper

dapper hedge
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Pure stream is therapist,

pure raven
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a good one SkadiDaijoubu

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maybe not so needed for normal but CM is a bit tuff with the nervous impairment

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if he has lumen built it would be cool

full terrace
# modern copper

Your Wisadel positioning is kinda awkward and you deployed Texas at the wrong timing. Were you borrowing any unit in this attempt?

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Lemme draw something up for you brb

wary imp
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is 3* always good?

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for early game

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keyword: always

remote perch
# wary imp is 3* always good?

no
only few 3* are actually always good, rest are meh that you only raise if you don't have higher rarity option as a last resort

pure raven
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my video is too deep fried SkadiDaijoubu

full terrace
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  • Elysium for DP on the purple circled tile
  • Degen on yellow circled tile facing up to lanehold. By positioning Degen here you will create a carapace on that white squared tile. This tile will act as a roadblock changing enemy's pathing as shown in the black line
  • Wisadel on the red circled tile facing up - she will help with the left lane because of the pathing change, and you are also preparing her for the 2nd phase when there are a lot of enemies spawning in the middle
somber falcon
full terrace
full terrace
wary imp
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My vanguards keeps getting shredded on early operation

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:||

full terrace
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Key to that stage is to deploy strong ranged dps on the grass tiles

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Vanguard cant survive = levels too low

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Raise them to E1 or something

remote perch
remote perch
wary imp
full terrace
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Yes E1 them

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2-3-4 Stars are cheap to raise

wary imp
full terrace
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It's not that hard..

wary imp
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i hope so

civic bear
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this 3-4 right

wary imp
civic bear
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and your issue is opening

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35 - 40 dp to handles two lane

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you got an e2 right

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a guard id assume?

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just pop guard then any defender on the right immediately

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only then vanguards

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then snipers for drones, then defender again to bait the attacks off others. medic whenever someones hp is getting low

wary imp
wary imp
civic bear
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no need to deploy vg yet

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lappland cost 20 right

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or 19?

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lappland immediately

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then whoever defender you got really on the right

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does that not just kill quick

wary imp
remote perch
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If they rush too fast you can also use a Charger to buy time then just retreat it for full refund and deploy Lappland

civic bear
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def has enough dp for lapp. its the right side im not too sure defender would be in time, in which case yeah just charger

full terrace
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@modern copper here I ran you a simulation, as you can see there is a bit of pressure on the right lane - this is why I suggested you to borrow a unit like Logos for a safer clear. You can do without but your timing needs to be precise.

wary imp
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aight
it's not that hard i think

full terrace
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Shaw can push back the unblockable runners buying you a little bit more time to dps

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Shaw on the far right [+] tile I meant

wary imp
full terrace
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Orchid also helps if you have the DP

wary imp
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aight

scarlet mortar
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did mr ancool pass 2-5

civic bear
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pure e0 1 too hard tho atleast with those op

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also when do you get spot

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wtf man

scarlet mortar
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oh wait i didn't notice that cleared

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powercreep abuse....

scarlet mortar
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i added 4*s but yeag

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pain

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that was the E0L1 low rarity account, not the no gacha one

civic bear
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hmm

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adding 4* and being max trust seems like it has a chance

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my bottom lane was quite smooth

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jsut top is rough

scarlet mortar
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max trust would help a lot

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E0L1 defenders might as well be made of paper in front of the dual-wielders

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bro they have like double the dps of dogs or sth

civic bear
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true e0 l1 cleared at launch so

scarlet mortar
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014?

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016 sounds easy just by stat diff

civic bear
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014 ye

scarlet mortar
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lfg

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oh arkrec doesn't have it

civic bear
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random map noone bother

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to submit

scarlet mortar
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red map bro...

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act 0 red maps are actually funny if you have no stats

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smh they have coal like 0454 3op but not 014

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E0max jaye shits on all of the casters 🥹

calm raft
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So how are you supposed to stop vein guardian raids?

dapper hedge
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Just get extra medics

jovial finch
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Hello! I have recently tried clearing BP-EX-8-CM with 6 operators and was wondering if it is possible to clear it with even less operators and also how to optimize this clear more. Please do give advice if its possible, thanks! (dont mind the music and lag lol)

scarlet mortar
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what's your roster?

jovial finch
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basically just that

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well i do have wisadel but i prefer to not be braindead

scarlet mortar
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i mean there might be some option that covers for those ops better

jovial finch
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you can advise me on what operators to use I probably have them

jovial finch
scarlet mortar
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are you banning anyone else

jovial finch
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and how to like place em

scarlet mortar
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say, cexas and ya2

jovial finch
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just wisadel

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yeah

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dont have fast deploys like those tho

scarlet mortar
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hm i feel like you can optimize ines out at least

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there's a CM caster 3op that's basically logos turbo

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use ela mines more and you might be able to cut suzu too

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yh logos ela reed someone

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is my guess

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oh move ela onto the free ranged tile

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you can use ines to kill that critter so ela can kill all 5 of the big guys

civic bear
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suzu doesnt seem all that useful

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and ines

scarlet mortar
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it's a 4op but i'm just going off arkrec so

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cluel

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3op sounds more problematic bc the spec record uses cexas

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and idk if there's a combo that useful to work with

somber falcon
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logos s1 + typhon might work for left side

lapis hornet
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usually in low op vg and heal the first things you cut

lapis hornet
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low effort 4 op surely can optimize but whatever loles

jovial finch
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what skill for ascalon did you use

lapis hornet
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s2

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can probs cut mosti with good timing timing

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or you can replace with suzu might work

jovial finch
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I see! Im still kinda bad with timings and such but do you have any advice for using ela bombs

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since the last few people said i could cut suzu with some good bomb timings

lapis hornet
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possible I tried it a couple times blind no advice sorry I just used bombs when something looked like it'd leak lol

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mostly right side

jovial finch
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oh alright, how does ascalon look like? Does her kit/skill cover for the lack of a defender

lapis hornet
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3 op might be demanding on units tho possibly even potgated so who knows

jovial finch
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i have ascalon but havent really built her

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so i dont know her gameplay

lapis hornet
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she's rly good

jovial finch
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was there any times that she almost leaked or such

lapis hornet
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basically aoe slow + dmg + p decent cycling

jovial finch
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i know ela bombs can cover for that

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alright

lapis hornet
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never on skill

jovial finch
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Ill try this op combo out once i e2 ascalon

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been really keen on low op clears lately so yeah

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thanks alot for feedback

jovial finch
lapis hornet
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right?

jovial finch
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did you support her with mostima or ascalon

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riht yes

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mb

lapis hornet
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put on ground first killed the block mob, retreated and put her on block then just s3 off cooldown mostly

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use bombs if a mob looks like it'd gonna leak. nothing special

vernal lion
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actually just deploy the bomb, it's a trap lol

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it auto procs when they come close

jovial finch
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yeah i usually deploy near the bluebox js in case

full terrace
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I saw a Wisadel-Ascalon 2 ops clear somewhere

jovial finch
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No, not really

lapis hornet
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he doesn't want wis

jovial finch
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oh yeah i just have banned units

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yeah

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just no braindead units is my req

lapis hornet
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can just borrow an asca and see if you like her tho

jovial finch
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ill build her dw

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i need more units to play with anyways

full terrace
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If you dont want Wis, 3 ops seem possible

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What are your banned units

jovial finch
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just wis

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i dint really know any other units that are just one tap one win

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i appreciate any and all advice though

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especially timing and skill related ones

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im still semi new to the game so im still trash at that

lapis hornet
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it's just

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try til you figure it out lol there's no magic trick

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oh I thought you was old player the way you said name a unit I prob have it

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low op alr chad move

weak gazelle
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uhh is they try to low ops clear route?

lapis hornet
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they into low op yeah

full terrace
lapis hornet
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chad player future dalao

full terrace
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You did p good clearing it without asking anyone for advice tbh

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Anyway Imma go try running a 3 ops simulation for you

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See if its clean

jovial finch
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my goals with the game is just get good enough to advise others, get all units, collect everything there is

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yeah thank you

weak gazelle
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:ya:
i wanna say try looking at arkrec as reference
but seem like its a bad idea(?)

lapis hornet
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you say that soon you'll be on arkrec :ya:

jovial finch
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whats arkrec lol

lapis hornet
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a repository for record clears

jovial finch
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is it a website?

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ill try checking it out

lapis hornet
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ya google it

jovial finch
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seems cool

lapis hornet
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but I'd try stages without looking first you can get influenced otherwise

jovial finch
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yeah i dont look at clears before clearing them myself

lapis hornet
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even seeing the units used is already half the clear lol

jovial finch
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ruins the game for me

lapis hornet
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ya

weak gazelle
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agreed
arkrec would influence you one way or another
so my bad mentioning arkrec

lapis hornet
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afterwards is fine tho can give you new ideas when you see how other ppl do it

jovial finch
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that small glimpse of the ops used filled my mind

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definitely half the clear

scarlet mortar
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i use arkrec for when i want to talk in #strategy without doing the event

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cluel

lapis hornet
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dalao behavior

weak gazelle
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anyway what the rule you set for low ops?

jovial finch
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arkrec is just a leaderboard for speed runs, least ops usrd and stuff

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right

lapis hornet
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they have lotta niches tho

scarlet mortar
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it's like 2 extra hours if i try to open my emu and work it out HellaKek

jovial finch
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ya nicheknights

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endgame for all players

scarlet mortar
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not necessarily but

jovial finch
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lower the better, no braindead units, thats all my req

scarlet mortar
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yh people play nicheknights when they're bored

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mayhaps

jovial finch
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well players can be categorized into meta knights and nicheknights imo

lapis hornet
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braindead is vague but I get no wis it's like with ling you get tired real quick when they're in every single map

jovial finch
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there is so much ways to plau the game its insane

scarlet mortar
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i don't put too much emphasis on "nicheknights" bc it's too much of a branding kinda thing

weak gazelle
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uhh
kinda too general but lets try
interested in theme squad like ah or sui sibling?

spark sinew
lapis hornet
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it's just some flavor of self imposed limitations

spark sinew
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spoilered by clears so much

scarlet mortar
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when there're like twice as many people out there who also play with their waifus and ignore fuckall meta

jovial finch
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magallan only clears... SkadiDaijoubu

lapis hornet
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mag players are insane

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like clinically

jovial finch
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lowop players final boss

lapis hornet
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incredible to watch tho lol

jovial finch
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their optimization are insane

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i havent seen a fun magallan clear though

scarlet mortar
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mag players when they get to ratio ling players (the boss stage has a global nuke)

jovial finch
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do you have any videos of an actual magallan only clear

scarlet mortar
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DV-8 is one such case

jovial finch
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ill search that up

weak gazelle
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mag solo huh
that one is very tricky yeah
a very dedicated player :ya:

jovial finch
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its always so fascinating seeing people come up with incredible ways with their favourite characters

lapis hornet
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there was this mag weedy clear on the dusk event that looked rly cool

jovial finch
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its how i came to love ak

scarlet mortar
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otoh mag S1's core in high diff content too

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CCB#2 max risk has two records, both with mag S1

weak gazelle
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maybe try this first
gather all the operator you like in 1 squad
and start optimizing them bit by bit while you start to clear a map

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maybe that the easier one to follow(?)

scarlet mortar
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yh that's a common exercise

jovial finch
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honestly im getting interested in low stars clears

lapis hornet
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why yall teach him bad niche

scarlet mortar
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helps to understand which ops are better for what

lapis hornet
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this guy gonna be chad lowstepper one day

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i can feel it

jovial finch
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whats a lowstepper

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as in low star clearer

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ah sorry i dont know that much terms ReedBean

lapis hornet
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lol nah don't mind me

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I just kidding cause I liked low step myself

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but needs p developped roster

near folio
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Ive come to realise that mixed niche has lost its luster

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Doesnt feel special when the guy next door can just make an easier strat with walter carrying 11 dead weights

lapis hornet
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low step is just lowest amount of steps, like deploy is one step click skill is one step etc, it's mostly auto skill nice lol

weak gazelle
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ew lowstepperDuskGun
but joke aside
as it name imply, less step needed to clear a map

jovial finch
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oh afknights

lapis hornet
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mostly

near folio
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I dont really like afknights

jovial finch
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yeah same

lapis hornet
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you have afk stuff that's a lot of steps tho

jovial finch
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afknights has no thrill

near folio
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When it comes to boss stage I really want to break them down, by all means possible

lapis hornet
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like chungus is 5 or 6 steps by himself idr

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worst unit universe

near folio
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Even if its stalling steam knight for 22 minutes with Cuora

jovial finch
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i wonder whats the longest clear

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there has to be some low op trash units clear on some high diff stage i just know thete is

spark sinew
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stalling SK is intended though

lapis hornet
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ngl everyone hates afk when they new you'll see how chad it is in a few years WarSmug

weak gazelle
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idk
i only remember the cc golem one

lapis hornet
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some clears on cc take hours

near folio
jovial finch
scarlet mortar
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if you want an infinitely long clear you can just go block one of those regen defenders from ch5 with noir corne

spark sinew
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because you're intentionally doing good strat inefficiently

scarlet mortar
spark sinew
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that's different

lapis hornet
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have you seen cc9

jovial finch
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I havent touched cc at all

near folio
lapis hornet
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ppl be like counting enemy autos for hours

somber falcon
#

I.e cuora/beagle with the enemies on ch 5

jovial finch
#

so yh

lapis hornet
#

oh in theory you can stall some stages forever

near folio
#

I thought last time people counted was CC2

lapis hornet
#

we had ppl here stay a week+ on maps to test some stuff

weak gazelle
#

cc 9?
which one again that

near folio
spark sinew
#

should be second kazi cc

near folio
#

Viviana and Archers

weak gazelle
#

ahh the peak era

jovial finch
#

wasn't that how they knew unlimited duration skills only lasted like 10ish minutes i dunno

somber falcon
#

oh someone already mentioned that

spark sinew
#

nothing peak about this though

lapis hornet
spark sinew
#

even with blem shit took forever

scarlet mortar
#

oh yh there's also the long spring wastes anni where you can stall forever

near folio
weak gazelle
#

ohh that one yeah
that shit took forever to clear

#

ohh egg
the mighty egg :ya:

scarlet mortar
#

zane came up with some fucked up hung stall to try and get DP from natural anni gen rates

spark sinew
#

was it longer than bk chipping everyone

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idt i actually watched a full clear of seaborn cc ever

near folio
lapis hornet
#

i mean vids are all edited

near folio
#

Horn got to shine there

#

Last we saw of her

lapis hornet
#

cc8 actual not that long even the stall ones

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just required good timing skills iirc you can do it in an hour or less

spark sinew
#

hmm

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i mean they later cut blem iirc

#

and i assume the speed dropped significantly

weak gazelle
#

btw where the guy who ask for low op clear?

scarlet mortar
#

reuploaded with the permission of the original uploaders, go check out the original upload
absolute insane clear that took 3 servers and 2 teams to finish. there's a lot of details and insane tech that i want to go over in a separate video, but for now enjoy this cracked ass clear

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Rc411j7Zt

Arknights
Max Risk
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世界にただ二つのみ存在する39解のうちの一つ。

攻略:棋棋/钉子/血白/philimao/reaving/惊棠/妖姬
計数支援:啊这与就这/聚散华/tan/相沢阿七/柠檬猪/x2048x
思路交流:ozen/百日草/KZBS/バナナオレ
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サムネイル:桨
音楽:
Zack Hemsey - Mind Heist
Tommee Profitt,Brooke - Can't Help Falling In Love (DARK)
Andreas Waldetoft...

▶ Play video
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for hauck

spark sinew
#

when i said i never saw it

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it was by intention

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i want my eyes to be pure

scarlet mortar
#

rapidly approaching your location

scarlet mortar
# scarlet mortar zane came up with some fucked up hung stall to try and get DP from natural anni ...

0:00 - First 200
4:00 - Explanation
6:30 - Last 200

Link mentioned in video: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1JM4y1g75A
Btw in this clear, HG accidentally released the annihilation with a bug that reduced the DP rate to 1 per 1000 seconds (which is much more manageable). Too bad EN didnt get this same bug.

Music:
Arknights OST - El Brillo Sol...

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#

hall of fame unhinged concept

near folio
#

Is siege alter a good addition to Victoriaknights?

#

Could be really sustainable when paired with reedalt

lapis hornet
#

just need to stall for a few decades for the clear

#

arknights things

#

siege not that popular atm looks like

#

didn't realize victoria had so many good units tho

#

why you wanna turn the worst part of ak lore into a niche tho cryga

near folio
#

Lots of explosions

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I love how "Design Failure" and "No Need" are the top 2 tiers

near folio
spark sinew
#

was hibi always victoria

near folio
#

Yes

spark sinew
#

why isn't lava

#

i've seen quite a bit of vina in guardknights

strange fable
#

huh

spark sinew
#

well

strange fable
#

hibi is victoria

#

i didnt know that

spark sinew
#

i have seen khant sending quite a bit of guardknight vina clears!

near folio
#

Well im not sure of the exact numbers

#

But its around 70k

spark sinew
#

i didn't argue about how vina is bad though

#

or whatever

weak gazelle
#

victoriaknight huh
too many to add

spark sinew
#

(and constant pings are insanely tiring)

full terrace
# jovial finch yeah thank you

Ah I'm out of practice plans, CM consumes 3 plans per try. Anyway I think it's possible to 3 ops clear it without Wis or Ling. There was a leak halfway through Phase 2, I just need to manage the skills timing better.

near folio
#

If Ulpian didnt get insta elemental proc from nurseries just him and gladiia would be enough for left side

jovial finch
#

oh yeah your placements are kinda

weak gazelle
#

in the end vina still the best true dmg source with no restriction whatsoever

near folio
#

Ig you right

#

Sort of future proof for victoriaknights even though shes not that good individually

#

Though its sad that she might be their last major buff for a while

weak gazelle
#

maybe, who know

scarlet mortar
#

nah victoriaknights can still get ops pretty easily

#

they allowed both PoB and faction iirc

#

so yk, random viccy appearance

weak gazelle
#

what PoB?

scarlet mortar
#

place of birth

weak gazelle
#

oh lol

scarlet mortar
#

if anything there's still the kjerag business

weak gazelle
#

kjerag...
i complain about their deity first (kjera)
why she so shit?HellaHands
put that aside yeah its huge possibilty they can expand kjerag more

near folio
weak gazelle
#

me when silently waiting RL to have 14 opsMosTeama

#

so can kick mag + mayer out

scarlet mortar
#

oh lol wait

#

both lava and hibiscus are in vicknights

#

lava just has no records

spark sinew
#

makes sense

#

superior sister be like

modern copper
civic bear
#

Victoria player not that much

#

And tend to play some obvious clearable maps

modern copper
lapis hornet
#

as expected of fraud unit

full terrace
#

😂

nocturne cove
#

those things hit pretty hard

#

use ela

#

or someone else

full terrace
#

I used to love Zuo Le. But ever since 2 weeks ago, Ulpian took his place in my heart.

nocturne cove
#

to kill them fast

narrow pendant
vocal leaf
#

zuo can do it tho, just need to time better the skill? like use it early

pure raven
#

why time it when you can just unga bunga with captain DocSmile

nocturne cove
#

That doesn't make Zuo le worthless

#

Zuo le still good

#

Gn

pure raven
#

ye, just saying that captain is far more convenient

#

zuo le is still very good

spark sinew
#

just use both

#

cut worse units

pure raven
#

that too

wise idol
#

Dude im only getting like 2% adfay for Gravle as RIIC asstiant

full terrace
#

Blemichi and his Surtr Hospital 😂

pure orchid
#

Blemichi please 😭

vernal lion
#

0 block moment

spark sinew
#

gonna run out out time with that shit damage

#

🫡

nocturne cove
#

Oh this is RA

nocturne cove
#

Though

#

Why does surts not deal any damage

#

What's the boss' mechanics

spark sinew
#

pressure 0 looking ass

vernal lion
#

it's not pressure 0

#

it's just stage on map

spark sinew
#

effectively the same 🫡

vernal lion
#

without food buff

vernal lion
spark sinew
#

interesting

#

did you not deploy flags

vernal lion
#

I did

#

even with the food that reduces the DP cost, it's still taken time a bit

#

I just didn't use food with atk buff on Degen

spark sinew
#

oh you're using jerky/jelly

vernal lion
#

yea

spark sinew
vernal lion
#

wait

#

no, I didn't use jelly lol

#

I forgot

nocturne cove
#

How long did it take you

vernal lion
spark sinew
#

hmm, but why do they cost 21 to deploy only

#

am i misremembering how the debuff works

#

probably

vernal lion
spark sinew
#

exactly

vernal lion
#

I just didn't use food

vernal lion
#

I forgot to look at Warfarin range CeobeConfused

#

Degen totally can kill it in 1 act

#

will need to pull for Pepe in next event to get guard atk buff

full terrace
#

I wonder if Chapter 15 will conclude the Victoria arc. Would be funny if the banner features Charles Lynch and Allerdale.

#

And the final showdown with Theresis.

hazy sinew
full terrace
#

@regal frost Suraj you here?

regal frost
#

literally just opened discord

#

like

full terrace
#

You know

regal frost
#

3 seconds before you pinged

full terrace
#

We have that connection

#

🤣

#

Can I borrow your Suzu btw

#

For my alt

regal frost
#

sure

full terrace
#

Thankies

#

Needa do that SSS

regal frost
#

oh fuck I forgot about that

full terrace
#

Yeh 6 hours left

#

I havent done the other one, but the Realigned Flux one can be cheesed with Suzu and Logos/Wis #strategy message

#

I'll just cheese it

#

@regal frost accept my request please

#

Can delete my other account if no slot

regal frost
#

done

mellow slate
#

Where should i put my barrier to stall as long as possible?

tiny vale
#

just make a maze for the enemies to run through and some ranged tiles for ops

vernal lion
#

I also predicted that if there's explosive enemy like spider, the big aoe attack from s3 may fuck up the wall,
but with this one, it won't reach the enemy close to the camo wall so it's totally safe

pure orchid
#

WHO PINGED ME :reallymad:

narrow pendant
rocky kelp
#

so ulpi with +initial sp, gets sp back when his s3 ends

pure orchid
rocky kelp
#

and with both relics I can just perma spam his skill lol

pure orchid
#

Its a thing yes

rocky kelp
#

perma stun and infinte dmg lol

pure orchid
#

S3 counts as redeploy so you can just break shit for free

#

Can someone sponsor my sanrio background SkadiDaijoubu

narrow pendant
#

Its like 10 bucks

#

Just dont bw broke

#

Cmon

pure orchid
#

Its only 5

#

Fuck i need MONEY

regal frost
pure orchid
#

Never, i have nothing to show SkadiDaijoubu

smoky halo
pure orchid
opal anvil
#

what stage we can kill boss without sanity beside frosnova and theresa stage?

rocky kelp
#

heart of surging flame event

full terrace
#

Ulpi in AP-5 is super fun

#

Poison map = free healing

glass monolith
nocturne cove
#

What event is ZT?

remote perch
#

Isn't that Virt's?

glass monolith
#

Uhhhhh. Either Eben's or Virt's event

#

I think

#

O hey Eben event restored tomorrow

#

(And it was LE)

lyric condor
#

Virtuosa's Event, Zwillingstürme im Herbst.

opaque bridge
#

im finally done with this stupid classban stage

#

penance gaming

vernal lion
#

funny enough, this stage is similar to big bob stage

opaque bridge
#

wait bro has a point

vernal lion
#

not just the stage design, but the order to kill mob

full terrace
#

@lapis hornet you smashed that one bro. #help is so dumb sometimes

#

100/100 Logic.

full terrace
#

Oof

#

I was the one pinging you 🤣🤣

#

Actually I pinged both you and Suraj

#

But Suraj answered me first

#

So I deleted your ping

pure orchid
#

Pain

#

i was in lab cooking shit

full terrace
#

Found any germs on those sh..?

pure orchid
#

We preserve some vibrio spp. with cryoprotectant BagThumbsUp

opaque bridge
#

this took me a while since the shield thing I didn't preread

vernal lion
#

nuke before shield

glass monolith
#

What shield? (Me who stalled so hard the entire map died out of old age) HellaKek

weak gazelle
#

oh god...
insta stun and 3 available ranged tile really piss me off

#

canta only role as opener really gimping my idea

#

at least its fun to mald a bit for 8 ops idea
if not working i just go full squad :ya:

full terrace
#

Oh yeah its already reset. I wanna try something

full terrace
#

Okay so the experiment succeeded. So far the strat is either "hit left buff right" or "hit right buff left". I thought what if I Wisadel left and Logos right, wouldnt that make the boss link to weaker enemies and speed up Phase 1? Yeah it did and Phase 1 ended quicker.

pure orchid
#

Babel is fucking cracked

#

Imagine, this was Rhodes Island before Rhodes Island

full terrace
#

But there is a kill gate around 29, so for people who want to speedrun, still need to add a couple of operators to handle the stragglers.

full terrace
#

All in all I believe low 2 is possible

#

Sub 3 min at the minimum.

twin jetty
#

boutta bully patriot with the power of anchor, wish me luck 🫡

scarlet mortar
#

wis is in the stinky new babel smh

crisp sorrel
#

Can you guys help me with this

#

How do I fight him

full terrace
# crisp sorrel Can you guys help me with this

Gardener the boss will teleport North-East-South-West and keep circling. The boss is permanently invulnerable and you need to activate the device in the middle to damage it (normal charge is 5 secs and overcharge is 10 secs). Stack your dpses on one point (I prefer South usually it's right after the device on the middle overcharged). Activate the device and burst the boss. Try to kill it within the device's duration.

crisp sorrel
#

Whats the normal mobs that will spawn

full terrace
#

Red circles are the boss's teleport pattern.

full terrace
#

There are only 2 lanes to defend, cleanup will not be that difficult

#

Unless it's Sentinel

#

Then its tricky

crisp sorrel
scarlet mortar
#

different mobs

full terrace
#

Sentinel is Gardener's alter ending and has different enemies

#

There are invisible ones

#

And those dragon runners

scarlet mortar
#

also the boss has twice as many tp spots

full terrace
#

Trickier

#

And the device duration is halved

#

So you burst in 5 secs if overcharged

scarlet mortar
#

balanced fight

crisp sorrel
#

I have wis'adel and logos, where do you guys think the best spot for them

civic bear
#

What ops u got

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And what diff

vernal lion
#

that's just deep Investigation bruh

#

win or lose doesn't matter, only mission you need to complete

civic bear
#

Bro just wanna know how to do the ending BreezeHappy

crisp sorrel
#

This, im too lazy to write them lol

civic bear
#

Oh you're well strong enough

#

Most mobs go to left blue box

#

But the tanky ones come from the right so it takes time for them to go around

#

You can either all on setup on the right to spawncamp (with one or two lanehold on the left handling leftovers) or just most chill on left. Boss should be very easy to nuke for you

#

Ng helps nicely to tank boss

#

Above alrdy got the boss tile pic. So you can setup ur ops to be able to hit said tile too

smoky halo
#

theres a longass writeup on the boss stage if u want

#

holy shit temp ng so peak YA

civic bear
#

Could use reed s2 but honestly ur team cracked don't really have to

crisp sorrel
civic bear
#

Their strength comes in number

crisp sorrel
#

I got some atk up collectibles, and last battle i can say his atk is 3k

civic bear
#

Tho if logos just one taps them that works

#

Oh then yeah

weak gazelle
#

test it with 6* and comfortable beat it with 4 ops
its not even funny :icant:

crisp sorrel
civic bear
#

Ur worry is like just dying to boss arts dmg somehow from lack of healing but you got bunch of medics so nothing really.

full terrace
#

Speaking of Sentinel, I have been meaning to try Ulpi spam

#

By grabbing some initial SP relics

#

Use his S3, cancel and he redeploys with + Initial SP relics

#

Then use S3 again, spam spam spam

#

But havent found real time to test it

smoky halo
#

goodluck getting that

#

u need like +18sp which is boss tier relic afaik

full terrace
#

Yah need a bit of time grinding for it

smoky halo
#

then +12sp which is tier 2 i think

crisp sorrel
#

The incomprehensible thoughts formed by the collectives of humanitys biggest fear when it have to face wisadel

#

I won lol

full terrace
#

I mean you are doing deep inve with Wisadel. She probably 3 shots the boss or something

crisp sorrel
#

I thought the boss is like super strong or smth

#

I think i watch too much Ascension 15 too much

scarlet fulcrum
#

Investigation easier than d0 anyway

full terrace
#

Wisadel can comfortably shoot things without relics until d12

#

13-14-15 need a few combat relics for comfy

smoky halo
#

its not super strong tho

#

just need to know boss mechanics

crisp sorrel
#

Yeah i think im gonna do d7 now

#

Need to level up that

smoky halo
#

gluck with that

crisp sorrel
#

Yeah thx guys for th helpDocNice

full terrace
#

@pure orchid hah I just got Support tag, guess who I got? 😂

pure orchid
#

TO or

full terrace
#

Support only haha

pure orchid
#

Hmmm...

#

Dobermann!

#

Inb4 it crossed out

full terrace
#

I'm gonna send a short clip and then delete it in 1 min

pure orchid
#

Im gonna look at it in 2 mins

full terrace
#

🤣

pure orchid
#

WTF

#

You didnt set at 9?

#

Madman

full terrace
#

3:50

#

😂

pure orchid
#

The robot pot grind is real

#

The risk of it dropping is just soooooo bad

full terrace
#

Ikr, I believe this is the fourth Supports

#

But I got it finally

pure orchid
#

pot6 when

full terrace
#

If I get 1 Robot tag daily I'll get em pot 6 🤣

#

Ngl that tag is as rare as TO tag itself

lapis hornet
#

fr phono still pot3 madge

#

that'll probs add new robot by the time He's pot6 too

regal frost
#

I wish they added a new robot every month

opaque bridge
#

this is getting confusing

civic bear
#

3 red box

#

top redbox go thru stairs so it goes up mid bottom

#

2nd red box just top lane straight.
3rd redbox too

opaque bridge
#

the only problem for now is the elite guards ig

civic bear
#

technically a 2 lane map

#

should be p easy CeobeConfused

#

blocks them

#

and kill the thingy so they dont respawn

opaque bridge
humble trout
#

how do i beat this shiti stage

full terrace
#

Ah I havent touched that one

#

Seems like a real messy draft tho

harsh flax
full terrace
#

The pain - I doubt. SSS is not that difficult with Tactical Equipment, moreover post-Wisadel. I'll do it within this week, havent really found a good time to play.

glass monolith
#

Cheese? HellaKek Boss literally off himself as part of his text

#

Also i hate LE mechanic and 5th stage of that tower

full terrace
#

Yeah I recorded a few clips from the beginning excluding the boss. Boss is easy just drop his speakers on the ground and hit.

#

Chessing the stages, not the boss.

glass monolith
#

I'm almost sure those colossus will die to towers anyway

#

maybe. I just slapped Ascalon, some other operators and quit till victory screen

full terrace
#

Logos-Suzu will demolish everything, just need to stack some Tactical Equipment for them. I recorded everything in Emer mode, Normal one should be easy. Also 5th is which? This? #strategy message

harsh flax
#

alr im texting you next week, im done for now

#

with that mode

full terrace
#

Yeah okay, I'll make some clips later

#

And post them here

somber falcon
full terrace
#

Yeah what Casul said. That draft was kinda messy.

#

3 casters 2 snipers

#

Or 3 snipers 2 casters

nocturne cove
#

4 sniper one caster or 5 sniper

full terrace
#

Also dont bring Gravel. FRDs are useless in SSS.

somber falcon
#

wis would benefit more from atk since ammo tbh
logos is fine with 3 snipers ig

full terrace
#

True

nocturne cove
#

It's the only mode where gg still shines

full terrace
#

But in Suzuran S2 case, I prefer 3 Snipers 2 Casters, the Slow she applies is better at keeping enemies in place.

#

You guys got me curious I'll try that one tomorrow 😅

nocturne cove
#

Oki

lapis hornet
#

boss dies in one eyja s3 with max stacks loles

harsh flax
spark sinew
#

oh sss reset?

glass monolith
#

Reward reset uh... Next reset or already, i forgot

#

My gacha clock desynced hard yesterday

spark sinew
#

it did reset

wise idol
#

is beinga lil BS

trim mantle
#

Really struggling with BP-EX-8 normal. Cannot get pass phase one.
A crab on the left always gets tethered and then just demolishes my defense line and then mission fails. Any help would be appreciated.
I have no 5 or 6 stars. A handful of 4 star e1 60s and all 3 star leveled out. Am borrowing W'alter.

summer moss
#

oh man i wish i could help i'm stuck on the regular bp-8 😭

wise idol
wise idol
summer moss
#

thank you!

#

i dont have many e2 operators yet which is making it hard

spark sinew
#

what 5* have you e2d

#

jackalope i mean

wise idol
summer moss
#

thank you!

trim mantle
# spark sinew what 5* have you e2d

None. Amiya is the only 5* i have at e1lv70 and the only 5* really buildt. Dont know what to use the booster i got on. I have a myrtle e2lv30

spark sinew
#

so you do have e2

#

that's a start

#

not sure wdym by " i have no 5 and 6*" but let's ignore that for now

wise idol
#

I really hate red fish lol

trim mantle
# wise idol simualr to this????

Kind of except i do not get to second phase. I stack at the bottom door but that second crab comes through on top and immediately gets tethered. Then when it and the fish arrive it murders out my defense and stuff gets through

trim mantle
wise idol
trim mantle
#

Yeah, not totally stressing it. I feel like if i can just get past the crab i could finish it off and then finish the cm. Its all i have left for the event

wise idol
#

Plume alter when?

spark sinew
#

reruns are in a year

#

"few months"

trim mantle
#

Well, managed to clear the crab but at the expense of the right side and failed there. Would using the 5* boost on warmy and dropping her right side help?

spark sinew
#

no

#

well it might help but it would be an absolute waste

trim mantle
#

Yeah, i kind of figured. Been watching and following guides for the cm because that is all i found and only difference is one or two 3/4* and timing. Everything goes smooth until that second crab wave on left in phase that get tethered and runs through me

full terrace
#

Dont use your FRDs (Texas/Fang) when the boss enters the 2nd phase coz he will link some units and when the linked units are defeated or retreated, he makes some tiles undeployable. Also he sort of prioritizes last deployed units so FRDs are bad idea. If you are following the steps in the clip, make sure your deployment order is right - I did Amiya-Wisadel-Myrtle at the end, but since Wisadel has Camouflage, the last deployed units are Amiya and Myrtle.

#

Amiya didnt do anything in the clip because Wisadel timing was right. But just in case, just in case you missed Wisadel's timing a little and leaked some minions to the right side, activate Amiya's skill to dps them, and if Amiya is not enough, do use your Texas.

wise idol
#

why are so many names like this?

wise idol
tiny vale
full terrace
wise idol
full terrace
wise idol
#

it was the stupid fast red fish lol

full terrace
#

There you got it congrats

#

Now do the CM 😂

jovial finch
#

@lapis hornet hello this is my version of your clear a few days back, thanks a lot for helping with my low ops challenge for this stage ReedBean

#

it MIGHT be possible for a 3op with ascalon substituting suzu's slow with some meticulous timing but yeah

#

i had to do this a few dozen times because of the rng spawning of those big critters on death and ela rng but was a thrill to clear nonetheless

digital knoll
#

Btw I'm trying to find my first guard to e2 which of my guards should I pick? I have hellagur and thorns that I'm considering.

full terrace
#

Thorns has more versatility

#

He can hit air units and that Unlimited Duration is pretty good for afk

digital knoll
#

Ok

weak gazelle
#

yeah take thorns, way better than old man hella

near folio
#

Old man hella is way past his prime

#

Take this from someone who owns him S1M3 Mod stage 3

spark sinew
#

can we really trust you when you don't have his good skill m3

lapis hornet
jovial finch
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arknights is truly the masochistic journey along the way

lapis hornet
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i never had more fun than when I finally got my cc5 clear after like 15 hours

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wouldn't do it again tho

jovial finch
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indeed i was jumping up and down when i cleared with 4ops, what stage of the should i start challenging cc?

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like when i have a decent bit of raised 6*s

lapis hornet
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sadly cc dead mode now looks like

jovial finch
lapis hornet
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the playerbase is more into IS

jovial finch
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okay what about is

lapis hornet
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if you like that you can try harder difficulties etc

jovial finch
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wgat stage

lapis hornet
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you can start it whenever

jovial finch
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mm

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IS is just a gamemode where you can add relics and difficulties right

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relics being buffs and stuff

lapis hornet
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yeah

jovial finch
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ill try getting started asap

lapis hornet
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there's a randomness to it so it's a different feel than just redoing the same stage til you perfect it

jovial finch
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oh what

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how does thst work

lapis hornet
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just play don't worry too much about it

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it's p intuitive

jovial finch
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ic alright

lapis hornet
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unlike RA UtageSmug

jovial finch
near folio
lapis hornet
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damn ppl actually still using hella

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hella kinda sad cause zuos just like a straight powercreep

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literally same unit but better