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regal frost
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get silverash so you have burst damage

proud temple
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I'll use tequila insteas

full terrace
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I took SilverAsh on my alt account coz I dont wanna invest on Ines.

proud temple
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Ines is still better though

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Cus her totem thing stays after she gets retreated on e2

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You can technically have 6 tiles of invis reveal

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Or 5 in that case

full terrace
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I know how Ines works.

proud temple
cyan plover
lapis hornet
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sa can have 16 tiles of reveal while killing them at the same time...

cyan gorge
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Scene can have upwards of 100 tiles of reveal with skill active and all drones deployed DocSmile

regal frost
full terrace
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I love my Ines ๐Ÿ˜„

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Woh look @pure orchid I thought this was a myth.

pure orchid
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Nah its real, its how i got my weedy CardAyy

full terrace
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I got Ceobe

pure orchid
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Wait how

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The gamba crazy

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Thats a win tho, nice Amiyaya

full terrace
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Us AK players are gamba addicts in the first place.

pure orchid
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This is why i still opted to get ulpi rather than save for exalter MudrockNaruhodo

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Doing his s3m1 now

full terrace
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I'm on my way to S3M3

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What is Amigo?

pure orchid
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Nice

regal frost
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amigo is amigo

pure orchid
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Amigo is an old man who whales in Arknights

regal frost
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he's hibernating atm

full terrace
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Ahhh

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If he is a whale he wouldnt be bothered by me ๐Ÿ˜‚

regal frost
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do I M3 ulpianus S2? it'll eat the last of my rma

full terrace
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I actually

pure orchid
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Okay guys i have 0 pulls and 7 pity rn
If say exalt rerun is in 1 month from now, am i cooked?

full terrace
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Have been using his S2

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On my alt account

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Is a crazy good afk skill

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Much better than Blaze

regal frost
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I haven't used blaze in years tbh

full terrace
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My alt account only has E1 Ulpi

regal frost
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she's mod 3 for some reason though

full terrace
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I use Blaze sometimes when I'm doing afk

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When I feel really lazy

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But seriously it was really good coz crusher's raw attack is high

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I'm thinking of M3-ing my S2 as well

regal frost
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I'll consider it, I don't use afk often

vocal pine
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For a general team what else should i add

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Like who would be good air units

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Ive been using firewatch and leizi

full terrace
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If you are new tho, it's better to raise 4 Stars than 5 Stars.

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Also Kroos is good for awhile

vocal pine
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Not too new

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I have enough to raise some characters

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What is the problem with firewatch and leizi

full terrace
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Definitely E2 that Degen.

vocal pine
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Ye thats prio 1 for me rn

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I got thorns from the selector

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Who should i pick for the 5 star ones

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I assume a ranged unit

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For e2 as well

full terrace
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In my opinion, neither. It's better to raise Pinecone or Totter, or if you want the 5 Star one that bad, Kroos the Keen Glint.

vocal pine
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As in use the e2 for those 2

hallow escarp
full terrace
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They have their use even today, but I'd say your Thorns and Texas are good enough air units and should be your priority.

vocal pine
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Who would be a good pick for the 5 star selector and e2 lvl 80 ticket then

full terrace
hallow escarp
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ohhhh, now I get it, ty!!

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damn I spent a lot in the 5 stars already ๐Ÿ˜‚

full terrace
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I mean if they are good 5 Stars then you are good.

hallow escarp
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are they?

full terrace
full terrace
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You havent wasted that much resources

glad forge
# hallow escarp damn I spent a lot in the 5 stars already ๐Ÿ˜‚

6*s are generally better, 4s are much more cost efficient, 5s are the wacky experimental grounds, either they suck completely or they are bat-shit broken and they lie in the awkward zone where u might as well pay more to raise a 6, or just raise a 4 star and find similar success

vocal pine
hallow escarp
vocal pine
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Or just amiya token

sacred rivet
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A lot of 5 stars are pretty niche yeah

full terrace
sacred rivet
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They're fun to play around with but you don't want to invest in them willy-nilly when you're new

glad forge
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i still think poncirus is the best vanguard FiaDed

sacred rivet
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There are definitely solid ones that are great all-round of course, but it's something you have to be careful about

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4 stars a generally a safe bet

hallow escarp
sacred rivet
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Poncirus is essentially a 5 star version of Courier and Courier is already a pretty good vanguard

hallow escarp
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but by 4 stars, yall mean like all 'em? or is there like very bad 4*s?

sacred rivet
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Frostleaf is pretty meh

full terrace
# vocal pine Or just amiya token

Amiya tokens raise her potential. If you meant using the E2 ticket, thats different. What I meant with Amiya being safest bet is because her E2 form is necessary for story progression. There are stages that demand her to be E2 and be present in the squad.

sacred rivet
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Though her module helps

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And although I love Aciddrop her kit is extremely niche so I wouldn't recommend a new player raise her

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But those are the only two 4 stars I can think of off the top of my head that I'd recommend against building

glad forge
sacred rivet
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I would not say Gummy is bad but she does get outclassed

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Still E1 Gummy can serve you well for a while

vocal pine
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And use her ig

hallow escarp
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tysm yall for the info and help

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appreciate it

glad forge
hallow escarp
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oo

full terrace
hallow escarp
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I see

full terrace
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Amiya tokens are given for free at some nodes

vocal pine
jovial nest
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people default Dusk to S1?.....

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I guess it really is based on what ops you value or prio as DPS

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and what their role is

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because Dusk is an excellent stall in S3

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for enemies with slow attack intervals

vocal pine
full terrace
jovial nest
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depends. do they value IS runs or even play IS?

vocal pine
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is it good to do lappland even though i just got thorn

jovial nest
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but yeah thats my plan too

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I'm saving my E2 cap for Tin Man

glad forge
full terrace
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Honeyberry, Silence, Liskarm, Pluma none of them worth spending your tickets on. Unless you play nicheknight then maybe La Pluma

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You have Degen, so dont waste your tickets on them.

vocal pine
glad forge
vocal pine
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bc he needs his s3?

full terrace
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Thorns and Lappland do 2 different things.

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You use Lappland mainly for her Silence.

vocal pine
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ohh

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i was looking more at the lords thing

glad forge
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bring like kroos or amiya or click or haze idk what other caster is cool nowadays

full terrace
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Ya her Silence is good all around. For example in story stages, you can use her Silence on the exploding spiders.

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And kill them safely.

glad forge
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Silence will kinda fall off after ch9 so might be a good chance to re-evaluate lappy

vocal pine
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im at the point between ch 4 and ch 9

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but im doin 4 first

vocal pine
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cause i dont have 5 star kroos

full terrace
glad forge
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just max out 3* kroos, she will suffice

vocal pine
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hm and as for the caster just amiya?

full terrace
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Also I love using Lappy in IS3 back then.

lapis hornet
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silence always comes and goes

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you probs just brute force everything later on so rarely notice

glad forge
vocal pine
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so swap thorns for lap and use the max stuff on them along with putting kroos and amiya for the other 2 slots

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amiya and leizi are my highest lvled casters

full terrace
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You sound very confused ๐Ÿ˜‚

vocal pine
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indeed i am

full terrace
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@regal frost @pure orchid could either of you word it better, so that he get the message.

regal frost
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hi

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I can try

regal frost
full terrace
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Suraj will help you @vocal pine he is a very experienced player

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Advice worth listening

vocal pine
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kk

regal frost
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no no I'm noob just hit level 40

regal frost
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Leizi archetype is bad

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mod helps a bit but still better off using other casters

pure orchid
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Idk whats happening CeobeConfused

vocal pine
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what makes kroos good tho

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compared to others

regal frost
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she's cheap

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tbh

vocal pine
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oh lol

lapis hornet
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she's just cheap and does more dmg than you'd expect for a 3*

regal frost
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just get krooster

vocal pine
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does she have an alter?

regal frost
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she does

vocal pine
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is that what u ment by krooster

regal frost
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you can get her in invitation to wine side story

glad forge
regal frost
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could show all ops if you want

glad forge
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I played when her alter didnt exist and its not too noticable if u dont raise her, but im just a boomer

unkempt lintel
vocal pine
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ohh

vocal pine
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with the selectors and such

regal frost
unkempt lintel
glad forge
regal frost
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someone asked me if they should E2 reed, noir or underflow

regal frost
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screenshots

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or krooster website

unkempt lintel
regal frost
vocal pine
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is there a way to link my acc to krooster or do i have to put them in manually lol

unkempt lintel
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if that was me though.... i can see underflow usage more rather than the others

regal frost
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they have grey alter and Ely, I told them Ely

regal frost
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there's a way to automate it but people are 50/50 on it

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most people said it's safe I think

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but some said it's not so idk

vocal pine
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what 5 stars are generally considered good tho

unkempt lintel
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just do it manually smh

vocal pine
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or like

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what makes them good

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ive heard silence is a good healer cause drones

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and myrt for dp

lapis hornet
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silence is ok

unkempt lintel
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who we talking?

lapis hornet
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she's just the safest option outta the 4 unit selector

vocal pine
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like the good 5 stars for the different classes

vocal pine
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ive been using her and honeyberry

unkempt lintel
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honeyberry TaluThonk

lapis hornet
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5 stars rarely hold up endgame if you're a rarity abuser like everyone, 6 stars just have incredible amount of power

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like scaling is fairly linear from 3 to 5 stars then boom your normal 6 star can do the same job as 3-4 5 stars combined

unkempt lintel
# vocal pine ive been using her and honeyberry

oh yeh

dont use Honey for general healing

she might work for now coz i assume ur still in early game, but later on u will feel her underwhelming heals

coz she is not supposed to be used as a daily healer

vocal pine
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ye i kinda noticed her healing is meh

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i just like her range

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bc i can be really lazy on placement

unkempt lintel
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well if it works it works

but just use a normal healer...

if want a medic that also have bigger range, me think purestream much better

sacred rivet
# vocal pine what 5 stars are generally considered good tho

Specter is incredibly good, Lappland's silence is great and her module makes her even better, Ptilopsis is great at burst healing and gives extra SP gen too everyone, Kroos Alter is just a solid marksman, and Warfarin is both a consistent healer and a great buffer

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There are plenty of other good 5 stars but those ones are the ones I'd say are the most all-rounders

vocal pine
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i have specter and ptilo

regal frost
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Elysium

sacred rivet
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Oh I forgot Blue Poison

weak gazelle
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5* that considered good?
a lot

regal frost
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shamare

sacred rivet
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And Elysium yeah

vocal pine
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im considering either lap or kroos alter from what suraj said

unkempt lintel
regal frost
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Heidi and grey alter if IS

vocal pine
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ye im doin the krooster thing

weak gazelle
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which one you wanna know? dps, utility, heal, support?

vocal pine
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i kinda want like ranged dps

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i think i sent my team above

sacred rivet
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Blue Poison and/or Kroos Alter then

vocal pine
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i have blue poison

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ive been using firewatch tho

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what makes her like

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not viable

spark sinew
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being a 5* ๐Ÿซก

sacred rivet
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Firewatch is viable but she just takes a bit more set-up

weak gazelle
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ranged arts dmg is rockrock and amiya

sacred rivet
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She's not as easy to use as Marksmen due to dead-eye targeting

regal frost
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slower attack speed too

vocal pine
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ye her targeting is kinda wack

weak gazelle
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phys one a lot
best one firewatch, provence, and bp/krooster

vocal pine
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i think ill use the boost ticket on krooster

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and just lvl thorn

sacred rivet
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It's less that she's not viable and more that she has a more specific role

vocal pine
vocal pine
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swapping kroos for alter

spark sinew
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e1 max myrtle...

sacred rivet
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Normal Kroos is still good

spark sinew
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why do new players e1 max stuff but leave e2 at lvl1 actually

weak gazelle
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myself put marksman as last prio

sacred rivet
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Being a 3 star makes her easy to raise and she does really respectable dps for her rarity

spark sinew
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easier to ask at the source, so i want to ask you

vocal pine
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i wanted to get degen to e2 next lol

spark sinew
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later levels cost a ton

vocal pine
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ye i just like the art as well

spark sinew
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so on someone like myrtle for example, it just costs a ton for no profit at all

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since she doesn't use her stats

round prairie
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It's his game, he does whatever he wants to

sacred rivet
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Not a big fan of E1 Mizuki. I love Ambushers but imo with the exception of maybe Ascalon they don't function very well without their module

weak gazelle
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well a good lesson early on

vocal pine
sacred rivet
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But I'm not gonna tell you not to use a unit if you like using them

spark sinew
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especially in case the person doesn't actually know

vocal pine
sacred rivet
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Fair

regal frost
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screenshot your other ops I'm curious

vocal pine
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how sort

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or doesnt matter lol

full terrace
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Actually I'm curious as well

regal frost
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rarity makes it easier to see

full terrace
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Sort by rarity

vocal pine
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all the way to 3?

regal frost
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5 and 6* are fine

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actually

weak gazelle
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max mizuki huh
commit his e2 is the logical choice you have left

regal frost
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just screenshot all

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I wanna see if base slaves are raised

sacred rivet
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Btw if you wanna branch out into funky defenders I'd recommend Firewhistle. I've been using her recently and she's really fun.

vocal pine
spark sinew
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there's so much more to question than mizuki if you wanted

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ambushers are kinda broken by their nature

regal frost
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I don't think they should be branching out when they don't even have a squad sorted out yet

spark sinew
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and it's not kirara who literally does nothing for example

vocal pine
regal frost
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alright baseslaves time

weak gazelle
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as hauck said
kinda wasted on myrtle but yeah lets try from scratch again

vocal pine
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i play casually so i dont mind wasting too much lol

spark sinew
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so many e1 max ops ouch

spark sinew
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and no base workers so i assume you're running CE and LS

regal frost
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raise these to E1 level 1

sacred rivet
spark sinew
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instead of farming mats

vocal pine
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wut

regal frost
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is your base even built?

vocal pine
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kinda?

spark sinew
vocal pine
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im at lvl 3

full terrace
# vocal pine

You have Ptilo Warfa why use Honeyberry and Silence ๐Ÿ˜ญ

vocal pine
sacred rivet
regal frost
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you should work on your base and baseslaves for passive income

spark sinew
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regening is useless when she can't take advantage of being solo

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aka she never kills anything with that damage

strange fable
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kiwawa sucks

regal frost
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hi Felix RosHi

spark sinew
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and as soon as you put in another operator, enemies won't target her

strange fable
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Source: i know a kiwawa coper

regal frost
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who

strange fable
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birb

spark sinew
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don't make me ping rechord and killua!

vocal pine
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whats the general like team comps in terms of classes

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like amount

strange fable
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For early game?

vocal pine
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ idk where im at lol

weak gazelle
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i think focus on your base is important
as for main squad...pretty much go with your current setup and commit their build to e2

regal frost
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you're early game

spark sinew
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at your point you just raise good ops and use your e2 shit

sacred rivet
spark sinew
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no reason to bother about comps when they're worse than a bunch of random 12 e2

sacred rivet
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Stacking defenders is pretty viable early game tbh

vocal pine
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i like hoshi and lisk

regal frost
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the sooner you work on your base the quicker you'll be able to upgrade your ops

pure orchid
regal frost
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where did you even get lmd and exp to upgrade ops until now?

sacred rivet
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I would take out Thorns (for now) tbh because he's really not that good without skill 3

weak gazelle
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degen>thorns>mizuki>sexas>amiya

vocal pine
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tactical drill...?

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oh

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ye ls

strange fable
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The resource stages ya

regal frost
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i was hoping you'd say events or IS BlemiCry

vocal pine
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and also very slowly

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ive played this game like

sacred rivet
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I disagree that you specifically need to level ops for their Base Skills but

vocal pine
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on and off for a while

spark sinew
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i knew it! despite you going "wut"

vocal pine
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for base skills i just plug whatever works

weak gazelle
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it cost a lot yeah and painful experience but bear with it
while try it focus on your base production too

regal frost
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cheap af

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they pay back quick

sacred rivet
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3 stars are very cheap to raise and a lot of them have very good base skills so I'd definitely max them out

vocal pine
full terrace
# vocal pine

Degen, Texas, Hoshi, Mizuki, Thorns in your main team. If you insist on playing with 5 Stars, take Amiya, Ptilopsis, and Warfarin. Blue Poison is also a good ranged unit, if you want air unit badly take her. Other than that, take Myrtle and Gravel.

vocal pine
regal frost
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that's a E2 priority list

full terrace
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Alter

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The Omertosa

vocal pine
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ye

vocal pine
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except swap honey and silecne

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for ptilo and warf

full terrace
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Take Gravel as well, she is pretty handy for damage soak.

vocal pine
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who would i swap out

regal frost
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use the lmd from event to upgrade base

full terrace
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I mean you have Texas but she is mainly on dps duty.

vocal pine
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pluma or lisk

full terrace
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You have Hoshi and Degen dont think you need Pluma

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Nor Liskarm

weak gazelle
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pluma

vocal pine
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degen works as good as hoshi and lisk

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right?

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thats kinda why i got more guards

full terrace
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Degen just kills everyone, she is better than Hoshi.

vocal pine
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who would be better tho

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hoshi or lisk

regal frost
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was hoshi E2 just cause you liked her btw

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hoshi ofc

vocal pine
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no

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i saw that she was

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really tanky

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so i was like

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damn

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prolly good to e2

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cause usually i ended up leaking before she died

regal frost
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for future damage dealers should be priority

vocal pine
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also bc degen i have no clue how the get the sinter things

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cause i cant do the workshop thing for those

sacred rivet
# vocal pine except swap honey and silecne

I don't think you need to swap out your healers necessarily but Ptilo and Warf are very good investments. Silence and Honeyberry are both still very good and have their own uses

vocal pine
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i got the dualchips

regal frost
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silence ptilo works fine for now

sacred rivet
vocal pine
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ahh

regal frost
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IS has a bunch of mats too

vocal pine
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so like original question what use the tickets for

vocal pine
regal frost
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ya

vocal pine
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good to know

full terrace
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I'd use on Warfarin if I were you

strange fable
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Has there always been a symbol above proviso orders

regal frost
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that's new

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pretty sure

strange fable
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ok im not schizo

vocal pine
full terrace
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Yeh.

pure orchid
vocal pine
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wb the new op one

regal frost
sacred rivet
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Also Degen does not invalidate Hoshi, don't know who said that but they might be high on that DPS

strange fable
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@ hauck base dalao

full terrace
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Your Ptilopsis almost E2, it's a bit of a waste if you use it on her.

pure orchid
vocal pine
strange fable
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show proof

sacred rivet
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It's true that busted damage dealers can make tanks less necessary, but that doesn't mean tanks can be outright replaced by them

regal frost
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qyurii do I pull thorns you didn't answer earlier

strange fable
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Why did i only notice today then

pure orchid
regal frost
regal frost
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oh

sacred rivet
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Fair

pure orchid
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I said he looks supporty so idk

regal frost
pure orchid
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Cus my brain got dps brainrot

full terrace
vocal pine
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cause it took like several minutes

pure orchid
vocal pine
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or should i swap kroos with kroos alter

full terrace
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If you have Kroos alter then yes

vocal pine
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wait

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i dont lol

regal frost
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before you raise new units

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upgrade base and baseslaves

vocal pine
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kk

vocal pine
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wat pick

full terrace
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You need to play IW side story

regal frost
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are you running 252 btw

full terrace
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For kroos

vocal pine
regal frost
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2 trading post
5 factory
2 power plant

full terrace
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I'm 243 permanent account damage til HG allows me to downgrade right side.

regal frost
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if you say 333 I'm leaving I can't handle seeing it 3 times in a week

vocal pine
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i have 1 trading post 3 factory 3 power

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i havent gotten the other 2 side things

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been meaning to do that eventually

regal frost
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would downgrade a Powerplant for trading post

full terrace
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You havent upgraded your right side base?

vocal pine
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i recently got lvl 3

full terrace
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Your account is still good ๐Ÿ‘

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Dont be like me, right side all Lv3

regal frost
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oh

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flan do you wanna see something cursed

vocal pine
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i assume a high amount of factory for training stuff

full terrace
regal frost
vocal pine
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...

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why is the middle missing

regal frost
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cause

full terrace
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Thats why it's cursed

regal frost
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this will bother me forever

vocal pine
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o h

regal frost
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it's what I deserve for having level 3 office on main

full terrace
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You wanna see the real cursed base?

regal frost
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also flan I might unintentionally start playing 4* knights

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no please

full terrace
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This is real cursed

regal frost
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still better than seeing 333

full terrace
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I have never seen anyone doing 333 before

vocal pine
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i got 135 now

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i assume thats better

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along with all making tact

regal frost
vocal pine
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ye

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i would lower the power planet

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but

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i need to lvl the others first

regal frost
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downgrade your dorms

regal frost
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lmao

vocal pine
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i have 3 lvl 2 power plants

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anyways

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e2 lvl 80 warf

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and get kroos alter to use the ticket on?

weak gazelle
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huh
why warf? if want lvl medic silence is the good choice
her drones heal based on silence lvl

vocal pine
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apparently since mine is close to e2 not worth

full terrace
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Yah. If he use an E2 ticket on E1 Lv50 Silence thats a waste of resources, better use it on E0 Lv1 Warf. Also Silence does diff thing than Warf. Warfarin is a buffer.

vocal pine
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so

full terrace
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Which ticket do you mean? Actually I'm the one confused now ๐Ÿ˜‚

vocal pine
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the free 5 star one

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that was given

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along with the e2 80 stuff

full terrace
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@regal frost help, I'm lost. Do we get other 5 Star voucher?

regal frost
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hi

full terrace
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I thought it was 6 Star.

regal frost
#

everything's been given

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5* voucher is January

full terrace
#

But he said "was given"

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He got it already

regal frost
#

oh

full terrace
#

I'm confused lol

regal frost
#

he got the two selectors that everyone gets

lapis hornet
#

woulda been easier with selector you get pluma use the tix on her

vocal pine
#

ive had pluma tho

regal frost
#

the selector with 4 options
silence, red ect
and the bigger one with year 1 ops

full terrace
#

Oh that selector

regal frost
#

next 5* selector should be Pepe event

sacred rivet
#

Eugh

vocal pine
#

like lap and all of those

regal frost
#

yes

vocal pine
#

ye

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who would i pick for that

regal frost
#

in January?

vocal pine
#

the one i have

#

cause

regal frost
#

oh

vocal pine
#

idk about u

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but i have it rn lol

regal frost
#

wait is your account old af or did you pull kernel

spark sinew
regal frost
#

idk

regal frost
vocal pine
#

and just stayed bc people nice

spark sinew
#

haven't been for awhile ๐Ÿซก

vocal pine
regal frost
#

was asking cause you have a bunch of old ops

vocal pine
#

oh

#

ye

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i played

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like

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a long time ago

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then on and off

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AND I MISSED THE MONSTER HUNTER EVENT

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ONE OF MY FAV GAMES

#

still peeved about that

vocal pine
spark sinew
#

it's shamare

#

use e2 1 ticket on her as well

#

๐Ÿซก

regal frost
spark sinew
#

also back to base workers

vocal pine
spark sinew
#

build them

vocal pine
#

will do

spark sinew
#

grats on third medic ig

vocal pine
spark sinew
#

did you pick her already

vocal pine
#

yerp

spark sinew
#

also don't ping me ty
welp

vocal pine
#

oh sry

#

wait

#

i had 2

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i have another selector lmao

#

or

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wait

spark sinew
#

i answered with the knowledge that you have e2 1 ticket
since you don't have it...

vocal pine
#

oh

regal frost
#

also can ask #help questions I'll be sleeping soom

vocal pine
#

nvm didnt use it yet

#

oki

spark sinew
#

raise base workers and then 6* that people above rec

vocal pine
#

and just choose whoever for the permit

wraith herald
#

wrong chat, mybad

tepid briar
#

Did anyone try this squad?

full terrace
#

There are plenty of videos out there showcasing Sui and Abyssal Hunters, you can check them out.

tepid briar
#

I mean using both in same squad

wraith herald
full terrace
#

Whats the purpose?

lapis hornet
#

4 sui buff

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nian buff hp

spark sinew
#

it's usually this -gladiia

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and maybe og specter, idr

lapis hornet
#

now need a billion mod blocks just to buff ulpi ayyy

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spec likes 5% dmf iirc not that big

spark sinew
#

then you add actually good afk units and ulpi (and also cut one of the bad sui siblings)

spark sinew
#

ik andreana and skadi do

civic bear
elfin river
#

With the current team I can't beat BP-8. I have only Surtr to deala bit with the cheating fish swarm to time her down for the next buffed mob the boss gives. smfh

foggy grove
#

specter 5* need to be deployed

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such trash

lapis hornet
#

useless

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spatula also needs her bad mod smh

spark sinew
#

good mod you mean

#

get with the times old man

elfin river
#

I'll need to find an AoE with big range OP.

cyan gorge
#

Horn, Silverash, Mlynar, Reedic, Wis

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to name a few

full terrace
#

This is the first time I see someone said "I cant beat BP-8" ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Sorry this sounds so mean, I didnt mean to mock.

elfin river
full terrace
#

Anyway, do you have any E2 unit with you?

elfin river
full terrace
#

Can just borrow Wisadel and go bam bam

sacred rivet
elfin river
#

If anyone has her.

full terrace
#

I have.. but mine is Lv60 pot 3 such a garbage

#

You can borrow a better one

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If you cant find one, then I will help

elfin river
#

Remind me which speciality is W?

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Specter?

full terrace
#

Wisadel btw, not W

elfin river
#

OK

sacred rivet
#

You don't need W Alter for BP-8

lapis hornet
#

logos + gg probs afk bp8

sacred rivet
#

Do you have any good sources of burst healing?

full terrace
#

There is no need for healing

sacred rivet
#

Because that basically solves phase 2

full terrace
#

Just bring Wisadel honestly, her normal attacks alone can kill a bunch of seaborns at once

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Let alone her skill

elfin river
#

Saw her skill

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Dude at the vod used Thorns + Wisadel and another to kill them all.

#

No need for healing

sacred rivet
#

Okay but hear me out

#

That's lame

#

I'm not gonna say you can't but

full terrace
#

Vod overkill but it's safest clear, I think if you time her skill right she can solo

#

It's lame but gets the job done, he wanna clear it

lapis hornet
#

wis solo is rng af I heard

full terrace
#

A bit. Also need a good skill timing

#

Can just bring a few blockers just in case

sacred rivet
#

I'm just trying to provide an alternative to throwing Wisadel at it

elfin river
lapis hornet
#

good timing on your rng stuns sure

elfin river
#

All in order of rarity. That's all I have.

full terrace
#

You will clear it 100%

#

I mean.. my alt account cleared it with Wisadel alone, there is no reason you cant

elfin river
#

Currently, trying to lvl up Silverash.

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And Podenco.

sacred rivet
#

Bro, you need to level your defenders

#

But anyway yeah you don't need Wisadel, Virtuoso deals with 90% of the problems herself

elfin river
#

Would be nice if Virtuosa would help there, but the zoning shits hit her.

sacred rivet
#

That's what you need burst healing for

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Or a good defender

full terrace
#

She is super strong in this event because the Beacon also buff up her Revenant Shadows

#

And 3 Revenant Shadows attack at once every seaborn you hit went kaboom

sacred rivet
#

You don't need to sell Wisadel

#

It's Wisadel

elfin river
full terrace
#

I'm not selling her, I'm helping him, not making his life hard because it's "lame"

elfin river
#

Oh, one of them has her.

#

But same lvl as you

#

60lvl

sacred rivet
#

I'm not saying he can't, I just want him to know that I think he can do it without her

elfin river
#

I'll try and see if it works.

sacred rivet
#

Like I said, if he really wants to I'm not gonna stop him

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Just wanted him to know he had options

full terrace
#

Best of luck my friend.

sacred rivet
#

Yeah gl

full terrace
#

You may want to bring a few defenders for blocking just in case

elfin river
#

That works. I see what she does.

#

This roach is too OP.

full terrace
#

Yeah her normal attacks are powerful to begin with. This event just makes her even more broken with the Beacon

#

3 Revenant Shadows under Beacon just burst every seaborn you touch in a single hit

elfin river
#

Looks like I cleared the practice one.

#

Next time she comes around, I gotta get her.

full terrace
#

Good luck with your real run

elfin river
#

Done

#

That Wis is as broken as Surtr and Virtuosa combined

full terrace
#

As long as she helps you ๐Ÿ‘

#

I'm gonna stop here before anyone says I'm selling her again

spark sinew
#

i'd say she's broken a bit more, since 0+0 = 0

#

btw raise base workers

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e0 gravel omg

#

arflanyr will help you with the list!

elfin river
#

lmao with that BP-9. Looks like an Annihilation stage.

full terrace
#

Nah I'm not lol. Hauckindu is the base dalao, if you are building your base, he is the person you go to.

spark sinew
#

did i ask or did i tell that you will!

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go help!

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become the base dalao

#

forge and peter are down

#

you only need to fight phleg gato and others

versed whale
spark sinew
#

what is this draft

#

also what calamity relic

#

but yeah the draft is Bnuuy

#

shit looks like a regular squad

scarlet mortar
#

i like how all the dps options there have multihit

spark sinew
#

why logos
mlynar attacks count as 2

scarlet mortar
#

or DoT with reed S3

spark sinew
#

wisadel also procs shockwaves a lot

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why is reed not on 2

remote perch
#

Nice medics

spark sinew
spark sinew
#

crown vs sigil are very different for example

scarlet mortar
#

cmiiw but i feel like reed logos cexas turbo would just vaporize BSL

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or at least deal more significant damage

forest lagoon
#

reed s3 dot
wis turret

spark sinew
#

yeah that's fair

sullen rover
#

u need schwarz!

spark sinew
#

maybe a diffferent skills instead

sullen rover
#

hauck tuah shuld i mod3 weedy or mod3 suzuran

spark sinew
#

s3 texas s3 reed wouldn't clear anyway though

scarlet mortar
#

yh S2 cexas ofc

full terrace
spark sinew
#

s2 reed as well yeah
was commenting on stuff i see in the vid mainly

#

ik what you meant

scarlet mortar
#

that squad is deceiving against BSL, has the damage but is geared way too badly to avoid shockwaves

forest lagoon
#

also i think they didnt have suicide note?

spark sinew
#

i'm surprised they didn't wipe from shockwaves tbh

#

power of reed

versed whale
versed whale
full terrace
versed whale
#

And I forgot it did dotโ€ฆ..

spark sinew
#

why doesn't better skill have masteries

versed whale
#

Is mlynar still a good option to kill him?

full terrace
#

Also did you get Suicide Note or not?

versed whale
#

Sometimes the negative relic makes him so so so tanky

full terrace
#

If you have Shu, draft her.

versed whale
#

This was a relatively weak neg relic, but no blank note

full terrace
#

Next run get the Suicide Note.

spark sinew
#

was it scepter

versed whale
#

No shu

#

Idk

scarlet mortar
#

i'm ambivalent on suicide note tbh

spark sinew
#

it's not easy to get note

#

i feel like we can just draft to clear regardless

#

and ignore it

#

since ops are strong enough

scarlet mortar
#

it doesn't regen much hp in the first place

#

like what 0.5%?

spark sinew
#

it regens a lot

#

if you don't have burst that is

versed whale
#

Thereโ€™s one relic that gives him like 60% more hp itโ€™s so dumb z.z

scarlet mortar
#

just deal more damage RathalosSmile

spark sinew
#

cause afaik it works during shield

versed whale
#

Whoโ€™s my main carries to kill him? Mlynar + logos?

spark sinew
#

and shield is tanky

vagrant wren
#

For BP-8, is it possible to kill the minions too fast to be able to kill the boss?

spark sinew
#

boss spawns minions himself afaik?

scarlet mortar
#

yh

spark sinew
#

so you shouldn't softlock

versed whale
#

How did my whole team die anyway at like 1:40?

vagrant wren
#

But he needs to empower them

scarlet mortar
#

all those trigger BSL's explosions

vagrant wren
#

I think if you kill them before he empower them no damage is done?

spark sinew
#

bsl triggers for damage instance

#

so also be careful with like mlynar or modded lords etc

versed whale
#

How do I survive left side if not reedic s3

scarlet mortar
#

funny how despite having one of the highest onskill dph wis also has very high hit rate

versed whale
#

Wonโ€™t reed just die

#

I canโ€™t aim reed at the lock right

#

Itโ€™ll proc the dot

scarlet mortar
#

so she triggers BSL by existing

versed whale
#

So wonโ€™t reed die once there arenโ€™t targets to hit for healing ?

#

Whatโ€™s BSL

scarlet mortar
#

big sad lock

#

the bear

versed whale
#

Oh

spark sinew
#

reed should be on the right

versed whale
#

Ohh

#

Okay

spark sinew
#

and you setup two melees for her

full terrace
#

If you wanna play Reed left, have some powerful burst healer on the right

#

Like Shu.

versed whale
#

Is she fine solo

#

I donโ€™t have any other healers besides reedic e2

full terrace
#

So when Reed is hitting BSL, activate Shu's skill and ignore the explosions altogether

versed whale
#

That medic in the pic was a temporary recruit

full terrace
#

Everyone will survive

versed whale
#

OH I have Amiya

scarlet mortar
#

anyhow idt that squad would survive once the 4-block golems and gargoyles show up

#

at least not the one in that vid

#

it kinda comes down to bursting and praying

versed whale
#

I dun have shu

scarlet mortar
#

might as well do the reed + cexas S2 + logos combo

versed whale
scarlet mortar
#

shu's a defender

versed whale
#

And skalter is all I have

#

For healing

smoky halo
#

are u aiming for crown bsl?

full terrace
#

Iirc Surtr is also good vs BSL because her every hit is powerful

scarlet mortar
#

eh nah

smoky halo
#

i will shill exec borrow he stronk for bsl, not at crown bsl tho

scarlet mortar
#

unless you rolled rdp relics she's offline for a huge part of the stage

#

and dph doesn't matter when it's arts, only dps

versed whale
#

Reed + Defender + ines + logos right? Who do I put left

spark sinew
#

ines doesn't do anything

versed whale
#

I feel like i always need dp

spark sinew
#

just put whatever left
are we trying to nuke?

versed whale
#

Since all my units always die

scarlet mortar
#

ines is straight detrimental to camp near BSL

spark sinew
#

bard angle?

scarlet mortar
#

the only thing she does is make it explode faster

versed whale
#

My Skalter always dies I can try her again

#

Is the rocks falling aoe dmg?

scarlet mortar
#

no

versed whale
#

RLYYY

#

Okok

scarlet mortar
#

targets last two deployed or sth

versed whale
#

I can try Skalter again I was just scared of grouping stuff near her

versed whale
vagrant wren
#

Just confirmed you can lose BP-8 by wiping the enemies too quick with Walter

full terrace
spark sinew
#

I'm fairly sure reedic outheals anyway

#

but cyanine talked about arts damage

#

how res doesn't care about dph

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unlike physical

scarlet mortar
#

yh that angle

full terrace
#

She did in the video, but the guy cant really keep up with the right side.

#

I was thinking about

#

Maybe Zuo Le could help? I have to go test it sometime

#

He hits hard but not that many hits

scarlet mortar
#

surtr's fine as a dps while she's still fielded yes, but she doesn't reliably burst BSL and will have to retreat

full terrace
#

Yah thats her only weakness

#

The redeployment

#

So what I was thinking is

#

Err

#

Do a few hits at BSL to minimize explosions

#

But hard

scarlet mortar
#

it's kinda notable since the average BSL run will have a few casualties

spark sinew
full terrace
#

The S2 I meant

scarlet mortar
#

so you aren't as free to rdp surtr as you'd like

#

DP and all

spark sinew
#

s2 angle looks crazy

smoky halo
#

zuo s2 is fine there honestly

spark sinew
#

does the guy even have it

smoky halo
#

he doesnt die

full terrace
#

That is true but at least there arent that many explosions

smoky halo
#

but like he doesnt have zuo

#

so zzzzzz

spark sinew
#

not dying doesn't do much here, there's legit only one medic

#

you can't prolong the fight at all

#

unless it's s3 reedic on the left angle again?

sullen rover
#

use schwarz bro

#

schwarz + pozy + mlynar relicless warriors

scarlet mortar
#

just reed logos turbo mang....

#

logos popping necrosis would ensure nobody dies during the burst

frozen crane
#

chat am i cooked

full terrace
#

Man I remember stacking medics to keep the dps up

#

Nowadays we have Reedic and Shu and friends

spark sinew
#

what are those skills

scarlet mortar
spark sinew
#

remove everyone bring solo wisadel and win on MoM

scarlet mortar
#

jokes aside ehhh wis explodes the jellyfish sth sth win

spark sinew
#

or use virt3 skalt1 but probably die anyway on every other squad

frozen crane
#

man the debuffs

spark sinew
#

surtr texas logos seem like the play

full terrace
#

Yeh

#

I mean, he relies on Reedic already, might as well go all in Arts dps.

versed whale
#

I think Iโ€™m reedic right side, I think the dot is screwing me over

Is sussuro e1 enough left side SkadiDaijoubu

full terrace
#

No you ignore left side ๐Ÿ˜‚

versed whale
#

Iโ€™m doing left side Wisadel + sussuro

spark sinew
#

you burst the boss and then redeploy

versed whale
#

Just not hitting boss except from right side

spark sinew
#

cut sussuro then

#

wtf is she gonna do...

full terrace
#

Yah what Hauck said, I'm a slow typer

versed whale
#

Wisadel will die on her own

spark sinew
#

from what, old age?

versed whale
#

From rocks and the explosion no?

spark sinew
#

you burst the boss first

full terrace
spark sinew
#

not like you gonna have dp for wisadel before that

full terrace
#

Focus on bursting with your dps

versed whale
#

Okay

full terrace
#

Grab enough Life Points relic

#

And let the left side be

#

For awhile

#

Once you burst the boss, then you can lanehold left

#

As long as that big thing dies

versed whale
#

I dont think I can one cycle him

#

Logos mlynar surtr doesnโ€™t feel enough

spark sinew
#

you need to

#

good thing reedic does a lot more damage
also don't forget to use texas s2

full terrace
#

Why do I have a memory of one cycling him ๐Ÿคฃ

#

I think you can

versed whale
#

I donโ€™t have masteries on s2

versed whale
full terrace
#

Honestly if you have Shu here everything is so so much easier

#

Left Reedic, right Shu problem solved.

full terrace
versed whale
#

Iโ€™m going back in LappDumb

celest bluff
#

how much her RIIC skill add to exp production?

spark sinew
#

35

#

wrong channel btw

vernal lion
celest bluff
#

okay who I should e2 then

full terrace
spark sinew
#

it's just 2k needed

#

logos still should pop it almost instantly on s3

#

normal mobs are 1k

full terrace
#

Hmm

spark sinew
#

so double of mobs

elfin river
full terrace
#

Yah with Module, but it's only 8% of his Attack

#

So for example he has 2k Attack, 8% is 160 Necrosis damage per attack, and bosses need 2k for the Necrosis Burst.

elfin river
#

I see.

#

That's a miniscule of what Virtuosa does.

frozen crane
#

deep colour carried

full terrace
#

Your Wisadel, Shu, and Virtuosa carried. ReedBean

remote perch
# elfin river That's a miniscule of what Virtuosa does.

Fun fact
All Necrosis Fallout ( the actual damage ) is fixed at 12k damage

Necrosis is seprated into 2 parts
Necrosis Accumulation ( or called Necrosis Damage ) and Necrosis Fallout ( the actual damage that reduce the enemy HP )

What he is saying is the accumulation of it, im not doing the math but if Logos does 160 Necrosis Damage per attack that is just the accumulation gauge, not the actual damage itself, so at 13 attacks, Logos will proc a Necrosis Fallout, the actual damage and what is Virt's main way of dealing damage

spark sinew
#

logos also will pop is much quicker in actual battle

#

because bosses are rarely alone

spark sinew
#

so there would be a ton of projectiles with necrosis flying around

full terrace
#

Ngl

#

Virtuosa S2 with Reedic and the others seem super fun

#

With the constant Necrosis Burst.

celest bluff
#

what about with Exu

full terrace
#

Exu has how much Attack? ReedBean

remote perch
#

All i remember is that it's less than 600

full terrace
remote perch
#

Because i made fun of her not hitting more than 600 def, so that's my only memory of Exu

spark sinew
#

although you really shouldn't have brought those shit units in last fight

#

i figured you didn't play MoM

full terrace
#

If I proc Virtuosa S2 on Reed, Reed's S2 will also do Necrosis right?

#

Sounds like a constant Necrosis Burst to me

celest bluff
#

sound like spaghetti code here

frozen crane
celest bluff
remote perch
#

I would rather just use s3

full terrace
#

Yah what FAE said. When you proc her S2 on another unit, you must be sure that this other unit will do at least 2 units worth of damage because that skill relies on his/her Attack. If not then just do her S3

remote perch
#

S2 is kinda eh tbh
With only 20 sec of duration, theoretically you can proc 2 fallout since a fallout last for 15 sec, but that also means you only have 5 sec to proc 2 fallout, very unlikely. You practically only do 1 fallout for the duration of s2

If you just want the fallout, you're better off using s3 since it last for 40 sec so you're basically guarantee to proc more than 2 times

The only usecase for s2 is for the range extension of the other unit can do for her

smoky halo
remote perch
#

Hmmm

full terrace
remote perch
#

Imma try it, it shouldn't be that hard to test

remote perch
smoky halo
#

naruhoglow

#

ive been misinfoed by help

#

thanks dalao Amiyay

spark sinew
#

is that not typical

remote perch
#

Real

spark sinew
#

i've been pinged like thrice to doublecheck their answers about the base or mechanics and they were wrong every time!

full terrace
#

I love it

#

100/100 ๐Ÿ‘

remote perch
civic bear
#

?

#

its virt atk

#

1 proc skalter+ 1 proc virt

#

1446 atk virt
20% and 10% times 1.2

remote perch
#

The target are the shield guards

civic bear
#

is 520

#

target doesnt matter tho

remote perch
#

Check how many ticks it took for the shield guards without Warfed Skalter takes to proc

civic bear
#

shieldguard warf 1446 x 0.2 x 4 = 1156~
shieldguard no warf 1032 x 0.2 x 5 = 1032~

#

if it uses attacker how can it even proc

full terrace
#

Warfarin lands on Skadi, how does it affect Virt's attack?

civic bear
#

skadi buffs virt

remote perch
civic bear
#

cuz its s3

remote perch
#

Actually good point

civic bear
full terrace
#

Hmm

remote perch
#

I forgot Skalter also buffs lmao

civic bear
#

the math literally matches up

#

you can see 3 proc with warf is 860~

#

see that after 3 proc the remaining bar is very lil

#

skalter would have like 500 atk at best even if it were to be damage. which would be 500 x 0.2 x 5 = 500 bar

full terrace
#

Until Ancool pointed it out

tidal sedge
#

Oh. It got cleared up. Updated game for nothing.

remote perch
scarlet mortar
remote perch
#

Vid for proof
I just double checked it

#

God why is the net so slow

full terrace
#

Which means the Exu that the guy suggested earlier is valid since all that matters is aspd and not the attack.

remote perch
smoky halo
full terrace
#

503 x 0.2 x 10 yeah