strategy

[jovial nest]

is something to always consider

her fragile ain't beating Suzu

[opaque aspen]

true

[jovial nest]

but its easier to do her fragile

especially if you don't need Suzu's HoT

and to anyone running out of Ela's fragile mines

drop her early

and activate->deactivate her S3s early

you get 2 mines when her S3 ends

4 max cap for mines

[opaque aspen]

oh yeah ofc

[jovial nest]

you don't have to make her S3 be for damage alone. Use it to abuse her mine gains

[opaque aspen]

activating her skill just for the mines is something i do quite often

sometimes i have her watch a lane solo while providing debuffs for all the other lanes. Works pretty well, especially since she's cheap as dirt and her slows can block some leaks

[strange thorn]

jesus she just does 35% fragile in a 3 by 3?

[jovial nest]

Ascalon for me now has sold me as being a main staple for my team. Ambushers just get easy dibs on deployment space. And her S2 is absurd in CC

her DPS is also decent arts

[jovial nest]

yes

the duration's decent too

and how to trigger her mines is the easiest out of all trapmasters

[north jungle]

Got spooked by Jessica Alter. Is she a good addition to raise for Defenderknights?

[covert vale]

how do i clear this (2-8) map 😭😭😭😭😭

[glass monolith]

Where it goes wrong? To drones or to ground boys?

You can replace Saria with Thorns looking up as weedy will YEET. I don't recall exact drone paths but i would try to have Kroos on drone attack tile and see if it helps. Use practice plans if you want to avoid burning sanity

[jovial nest]

I feel like I'd rather focus here

every enemy in the map funnels there

spawncamping or spreading yourself out

is a luxury to those who have strong af operators

so if you're losing

focus on putting everything near blue box

[glass monolith]

I just see those stupid def increasing drones and start questioning reality

[jovial nest]

there's no AoE enemies to be afraid of anyways

my general tip is

stop spreading yourself out/thin

you don't have to use the push gimmick

you could just bring another DPS-oriented unit

to help lane the top right

[glass monolith]

Oh right you can just place weedy 2 tiles to right without Saria and she will most likely YEET 90% of shit anyway

[jovial nest]

thats the preferred way to do it as long as they don't die

Saria's S2 can reach far enough there while she blocks near the blue box if i was piloting

and if I'm basing this right, that Saria's at least an E1 using S2 since i don't see any charges or skill activation icon

[glass monolith]

sir it is e0s

[jovial nest]

.....

low skill level enough that S1 has no charges

fuck

i was thinking of that scenario but i was deluding myself that they can't be THAT early

if you're already in that map

with no E1s

you're accelerating too fast

strictly speaking, I would prefer they farm Path of Life's earlier stages just to buy stuff in shop

[strange thorn]

yeah it has guard chips

so i would buy some and probably e1 mountain or somethin

[jovial nest]

oh no

for new players

the chips ain't even the prio

at least not compared to LMD and EXP

2nd prio at least

[glass monolith]

3* have chipless promotion and allow friend supporting first promotion

[jovial nest]

these enemies have a ton of potential imo

walking fucking roadblocks that can be used as ranged tiles

you can use them for many different ways in ministories or alt game modes

and the things they drop are pretty tanky

unless it's against the other enemies that are dedicated to one-hit them

also they just made Reapers 2.0

Reapers that can kill the ranged tile calcium

[turbid badge]

closest thing to a roadblock

eh actually

act more like RA tiles :p

[jovial nest]

not even

RA barriers are more frail

[glass monolith]

Bros learned their lesson and gave roadblock 20 block, so no more phasing bullshit

[jovial nest]

not like the old roadblock needed high block count

it only needed a one tap death to disappear

[glass monolith]

I don't recall where, but there was some rock-like-object which would leak to block overflow somewhere

Maybe first R6 things

[jovial nest]

last time i remember constructs blocking enemies in an event is Shu's

oh yeah

Lucent too

well too bad

those maps are forever....gone

can't become perma

i have no fucking clue why

it's not like those maps had anything to do with R6S

ok I need to correct myself

the calcified roadblock ranged tiles are less tanky than RA2's with complete skill tree

[turbid badge]

:p

yeah i need to play more RA

[jovial nest]

btw when comparing the calcified ranged tiles

they're akin to RA1's

not RA2's

RA1's ranged tiles actually acted like pathing barriers too

it's a con considering you can't freely do Ifrit tiles with them

so i like how they designed pathing barriers and ranged tiles on RA2

[strange thorn]

wait actually

you did get the free 5* e2

so you could just e2 like lappland or something

then borrow wis

[glass monolith]

[covert vale]

thanks guys, ive read ur inputs and will try again, idk if im actually progressing way too fast or not 😭😭😭

[spark sinew]

don't ra2 ones also work like that

[steep tartan]

oh my god it devoured my platinum

[jovial nest]

it does not

try putting down ranged tiles and 0 USB barriers

they will go through it

this is possible because of RA2

if this was RA1, they'd have eaten that USB3 first

instead of going a straight line

[turbid badge]

oh neay

[jovial nest]

RA2 makes it easy to do Ifrit lanes

actually no

if this was RA1

[turbid badge]

im confuzze

[jovial nest]

they would've done this

because you'd be blocking every blue box pathway if ranged tiles counted as "barriers"

what I'm saying is

RA2 has it better

making it easy to have ranged tiles in the middle of enemy pathing without fucking it up

[spark sinew]

wow your setup is... complicated

[jovial nest]

it's not

the only thing that matters there are the whites and the ranged tiles

the rest are excess

luxurious and overkill even

[turbid badge]

Um

idk if I'm ever gonna touch Ra agajn

[jovial nest]

just like IS, it's not for everybody

[spark sinew]

is that not what i said

[jovial nest]

it's for those who love resource management + traditional TDs while IS is for roguelite fans.

[jovial nest]

the goal is still simple. the rest are just there as insurances.

[vagrant wren]

Thinking about pulling for Ifrit to replace hoshiguma, and using the voucher to get blaze or silverash to replace Irene. Thoughts?

[full terrace]

Dont pull Kernel

[vagrant wren]

I got vouchers

[full terrace]

Go ahead pull Ifrit.

Blue vouchers right?

Yellow ones dont

[vagrant wren]

Blue vouchers, yeah

[spark sinew]

10 pulls is not enough

[full terrace]

Who knows if he is lucky 😂

[spark sinew]

ifrit is also significantly worse than hoshi here

like, by a shitton

you don't even have arts to buff (eyja3 is barely anything, compared to your physical attackers)

[vagrant wren]

I got 55 kernel permits

[full terrace]

Do you have Ceobe btw

[spark sinew]

bad decision already happened, so i wouldn't make another and pull for ifrit

but it's your acc

[vagrant wren]

Whats the bad decision?

[foggy grove]

Having 55 kernel permit

[spark sinew]

you bought them

[vagrant wren]

The folks in #help were quite instant that that was the best use of gold vouchers

[foggy grove]

Uh what lol

Best use is buying 6* or normal pull not kernel

[jovial nest]

how did you get that many blue vouchers? These are all i have as an old player that never touched Kernel. A newbie privelege?

[vagrant wren]

I found it counterintuitive, but no one disagreed

[spark sinew]

they talked about golden tickets

the one jusan have above in red squiggles

[vagrant wren]

I think they specifically said kernel

[jovial nest]

fucking #help

sigh

well

[foggy grove]

I very doubt that

[jovial nest]

I wouldn't recommend ifrit....

if we're talking Kernel ops

[nocturne cove]

Don't we have kaltsit as well

[jovial nest]

you already have Eyja anyways

[nocturne cove]

In kernel now?

I will wait for that

[jovial nest]

no

she ain't here yet

[full terrace]

You sound very confused. Gold certs ≠ permits (to pull), and as a rule of thumb, you dont pull Kernel banners. But since you already got 55 Kernel permits, best you can do is to pull the best Kernel units you dont have. This is not about replacing Hoshi, but rather giving yourself more utilities and options. That being said tho, if you dont have Ceobe, it's better to pull her over Ifrit for IS4.

[jovial nest]

not just IS4

Ceobe is still a relevant arts nuker that most other arts nukes would find difficult to kill

[vagrant wren]

Well, I didn't realize that tokens had to be manually exchanged for certificates, so when I finally figured that out i had over 500 yellow certificates after the exchange

[vagrant wren]

I have anti-caster luck on pulls. I have 1 six star, 1 five star, and 1 four star caster

And the 3s, of course

[full terrace]

In the end, it's your account. Ifrit is a good afk unit, and decent in some stages. Go ahead if you wanna pull her that bad.

[vagrant wren]

I really just want another caster. Efyj is really my only source of ranged arts.

[spark sinew]

ifrit is a bad unit to roll for in that case

she's more of a debuffer for arts

another 6* on her banner is absolutely bad as well

[vagrant wren]

Thanks!

[full terrace]

Ya what Hauck said, if you are after Arts dps, Ifrit is not what you want. Eyja is strong, before the era of Logos, she was one of the strongest casters in the game.

[spark sinew]

your roster is very solid (although i would not bother with saria s3 there)

i feel like however you look at it, ifrit would be a downgrade in the team above

[vagrant wren]

Regarding the Top Operator Transfer Permit, I think I technically should take a lane holder (Blaze, Silverash, or Mountain), but the more I think about it, the more part of me wants to go all in on Snipers and grab Exusiai

[smoky halo]

wait for exu 2nd module first

[spark sinew]

you don't need a laneholder at all

[vagrant wren]

I've been meaning to swap out Saria s3

[vagrant wren]

What do i need?

[spark sinew]

SA is a bit questionable since you have ely ines, but still probably better than exu

[spark sinew]

out of options in 6* permit? nothing, your ops are better

so if you want to go for exu, go for it
technically mountain blaze or thorns would be comfy picks for afk annihilations but you have typhon walter

[vagrant wren]

Walter?

[pure raven]

wisadel / W alter

[vagrant wren]

Oh!

I didnt realize Wisadel was an alter

[full terrace]

@pure orchid holy cow, my alt account pulled Ulpian in 8 pulls. That's not even 10 pulls 🤣

Wisadel in 3 pulls, 2 Flametails in 20 pulls on beginner banner, now Ulpian in 8 pulls, that account has crazy luck

[pure orchid]

Ah yes the power of alt accounts

Have you considered switching

[full terrace]

No way I have spent too much on this one 🤣

But I think I wanna limit that account

[pure orchid]

Hey now you have a nice account to sell to fund your main account

[shy viper]

hi Qyurii

[full terrace]

So that when a newbie asks question when they get stuck, I can simulate their performance using weaker squad

[pure orchid]

Hello

[shy viper]

do you know if they only added starter special training pack to it

[pure orchid]

Good helper

[shy viper]

or the starter headhunting pack got reset

as well

[pure orchid]

Ive no idea, i dont buy stuff

A whale like amigo should know tho

[shy viper]

i never bought those

just wondering

would be helpful if you can ask your amigo

[pure orchid]

Oh by amigo i mean @shell arch

[full terrace]

I mean, value-wise Monthly Headhunting is not that far from Starter Headhunting anyway.

Starter is $20 for 20 pulls. Monthly is $26 for 22.6 pulls.

[full terrace]

You mean in this update?

[lyric lava]

Can someone help me out with the team building pls? And which OPs should invest in, which OPs should I aiming for? Thank guys

[full terrace]

You seem new. I suggest you use the training vouchers to E2 Amiya immediately since you didnt pick Lappland, then borrow E2 Wisadel and blaze through contents. When you have enough resources, you can then build your team.

[jovial nest]

I look forward to these now every new boss we get

[lyric lava]

Ty, yes i’m new to the game and can’t even do 2-3 the struggle is real

Which 6* should i pick from these?

[full terrace]

Ya, go to your Depot > Consumable and use these tickets on Amiya

[full terrace]

Blaze, Mountain, Saria are all good. SilverAsh more utility later on.

[lyric lava]

Tysm

I’m gonna try to beat 2-3 again now

[full terrace]

Borrow a Wisadel from Support Unit like this

But first you need to add someone with Wisadel support at #friend-id

[narrow pendant]

Nice potless lapp

[full terrace]

My alt account

[vernal lion]

skill issue fr

anyway the Training Grounds is very good

if someone has issue with game mechanism, just guide them to this site

[vague perch]

what's wrong with potless lappy? she's still strong even wihtout

[full terrace]

She is 😂

[jovial nest]

I'm gonna start calling it tumor shells

[vernal lion]

I call it seaborn shell

[vague perch]

now hand hold me H12-4

[jovial nest]

so weird that I've heard plenty of people struggle with Damazti

sustain, laning, and flexible drop nuking is something I just mostly have and not many equally have, I guess?

[vernal lion]

EN impossible challenge: beat the game without Walter

[jovial nest]

Damazti even came out when drop nukers were still common

due to Surtr

[vague perch]

its just the leaking susvilians ;-;

[vernal lion]

@jovial nest tbh tho, are you still looking for "one for all" squad?

[jovial nest]

i still have it ready

but I'm not too tied into perfecting it

not when it's just what I consider the best squad for "blind" runs

[spark sinew]

wanna throw hands

[vernal lion]

I guess my biggest issue is the Sui talent

from Shu

[jovial nest]

if i want to rename it, it's just

"Full Power squad for blind content"

[spark sinew]

i think virt is wasting a slot

[jovial nest]

You don't need Shu's talent for everything

[vernal lion]

kinda yea

[jovial nest]

you just need 3 different classes (easy af) and 3 same ones
make sure all of them lane

[vernal lion]

probably

[jovial nest]

most likely I'm relying on the 3 Guards to lane

cause I ain't laning Tex2

although it is pretty easy to activate that skill once she drops. just not permanent

[vernal lion]

I probably say Texas is still fine with her role

but sometime when I need burst, Yato just is the one I need most

[shy viper]

yeah

[jovial nest]

Tex2 is there cause S3 is a solid default, there's still content that wants instant deployed killing, and her S2 is perfect for arts nuking

[vernal lion]

I'm still concerning about it

[spark sinew]

pre ulpi i went with this

frds are a scam!

[full terrace]

Starter Headhunting pack doesnt get reset

[jovial nest]

I do love how different our flavors of teams are

now that there's so many broken ops

everyone's dream team are different from one another

[vernal lion]

yea, it's not like all same

[jovial nest]

my 13th operator is usually Elysium -> Vulp (unless there's DP risk or zero-DP gen)

[jagged shoal]

Fish squad

[vernal lion]

I think Ines won't help much in DP, but at least she has all we need

slow and stealth detect kinda broken for a non limited

[jovial nest]

I mean

[opaque bridge]

it fianlly worked

[jovial nest]

the only time Ines feels sucky is if she kills first waves too fast

but that means she's doing her job well

thats why i sometimes love when there's tanky idle enemies at the start

thats easy huge DP for ines

[shell arch]

I'm not a whale u bozo

[jovial nest]

huh, EX wolf boss

grats

[vernal lion]

Zaaro when Walter is alive now

[jovial nest]

dude, he's already bullied with Typhon or even Ray

Wis is just him being atomized

I still mod3'd her. There will be situations where I need a long-ranged physical nuker other than Wis. And most of the time, it's Ray with her flexible range and permabind during S3

this at least aligns her summon with S3 cooldown

[vernal lion]

think about this, I may get SA tho

his mod saves his ass pretty much

[spark sinew]

ray was such a scam unit

[jovial nest]

yeah sure Hauc

sure

[spark sinew]

you know i am right

deep down

[jovial nest]

heh

whatever you say

I still use her

[spark sinew]

but feel free to think that you didn't waste rolls!

[jovial nest]

Typhon and Ray carried me

thats enough imo

scams for me is

they never carried in any single way

[vernal lion]

ray and ulpianus can join the 10k atk gang

[vague perch]

ray is stonk delete button unit

[spark sinew]

ray doesn't break 10k atk at all, no?

[vernal lion]

not, just nearly

[jovial nest]

if your standard of not a scam is not breaking 10K

jesus christ

there's more scams than Ray

[spark sinew]

where the hell did you read it

[jovial nest]

I'm just thinking where the fuck you think Ray is a scam

and your last sentence i was thinking if thats any logical reason why

[spark sinew]

almost like i replied to a comment in this chat

[jovial nest]

i dunno about you but i don't mind having 3 sniper nukers

although i'd go for the top 2 out of 8

been a while since I used Poze

[spark sinew]

i find it hard to believe Ray carried endgame account like yours
we have similar ones and she's not particularly impressive in mine.Shined on a couple stages that i would've cleared first try anyway? Sure

[jovial nest]

Hauc, how many times do you do IS?

[spark sinew]

how many breads have you eaten in your life

[jovial nest]

whatever isn't Danger mode RA2, D15 IS, or high risk CC is imo "anything goes clear"

when i say someone carried

its based on any of the 3 content i mentioned

EX and S don't even get as challenging anymore

not when the bar of strong operators is this high

i even value Quercus highly just because she has helped me get out of shitty RNG situations in IS when there's no defender or medic vouchers (no Mamiya back then)

[spark sinew]

mod3...

[jovial nest]

now I'm thinking....should I?

for Guard and Caster voucher insurances

[vague perch]

imo yes. IS she can be handy in blind recr

[spark sinew]

i wouldn't rate ray too highly in IS though, snipers in general just take a huge rest and i use hope for other shit

[civic bear]

Calling ray a scam is damn

[spark sinew]

there's a context there

[jovial nest]

it's alright. anyone can have their own opinions

[spark sinew]

but seeing how even jusan misses it...

[jovial nest]

we value things very differently

[civic bear]

What could possibly be the context

[jovial nest]

same reason why we have different dream teams

[opaque bridge]

[vague perch]

dont take it personal guys.. everyone can read your chats here. operators has their pro's and con's

[jovial nest]

been a while since I've seen that TW EX

colossi moving around in the inner circle

and it's a bitch to charge the towers

[vague perch]

this one's fun

[opaque bridge]

that shit took me a while of trapping

[wraith herald]

ascalon in the middle would be perfect for slow

[acoustic slate]

Wtf

[jovial nest]

Ambushers

are the perfect TW tower chargers

Mlynar too

but Mlynar gets block when during skill

plenty of content has shown me how good it is to have a Liberator and Ambusher both in flexible positioning and value

and thus Mlynar and Asca in my team

[vague perch]

i think what i did back then to that stage i placed most of my dps units near the red box so the enemy wont recapture it on time

[jovial nest]

TW rerun for me was

Kal S2 counters those suicide casters

just spawncamp mon3tr far from the tower

[vague perch]

i used chenter to spawn camp worked fine too

[civic bear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1056288682996412416/1056735878883590155/image.png?ex=6750f8fa&is=674fa77a&hm=ec0939e9afd82de2745fea674ac62ea88e486471446f396bea64e5ff14fbdae2&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1178&height=662

[shy viper]

great thanks for the inf

they only added special starter training pack then

[full terrace]

Yea

[nocturne cove]

I have to admit

I was over-rating ulpianus

😭

What hauck?

[spark sinew]

I'm curious about some of your takes
"ulpian soloes every boss on s1?"

or how would you overrate him even

[nocturne cove]

When did I say that

[nocturne cove]

I thought he was busted

[spark sinew]

oh it was an example i made up

[civic bear]

hes not wisadel

[nocturne cove]

He dies to normal mobs

[civic bear]

if thats what you think

[spark sinew]

hence the ""

[nocturne cove]

Like 3 dogs

[civic bear]

well no shit

[modern plover]

Im getting ptsd from this setup
Very mald

[spark sinew]

i have a gif where he kills 2 dogs at e1!

and has almost full health!

[civic bear]

didnt you know dogs and brawler are the highest dps enemies?

[scarlet mortar]

are they dogs or are they the BP-8 mobs which get hyperbuffed by the boss

[nocturne cove]

I have my ulpi at e2

[scarlet mortar]

or is your ulpian bad cluel

[nocturne cove]

Idk

My ulpi is defective

😭

[civic bear]

bro isnt supposed to solo hold 100 dogs

bro is to hold elites

[nocturne cove]

ikik it's just that my expectations were high af

Also anyone got gladiia?

[spark sinew]

what about her

[jovial nest]

Ulp doesn't need her

hell i prefer Shu

[spark sinew]

do i have you added?

[nocturne cove]

I wanna see how much of a difference can she make

No I don't think we are friends

What's your user

[spark sinew]

the only Hauckindu

[nocturne cove]

The only 120 hauckindu

Sent

[spark sinew]

only lvl120 users exist

🫡

what skill

[jovial nest]

the Gladiia conundrum

S1 for auto laning ease

[nocturne cove]

Any skill works

[jovial nest]

S2 for better dmg

[spark sinew]

s1 is crazy

[jovial nest]

S3 for.......middling arts procs

[spark sinew]

done

[nocturne cove]

Oki thanks

I will tell you once I'm done

[civic bear]

use s3 when u pair with ulpian

[spark sinew]

too bad you don't exist 🫡

[civic bear]

cuz you can then bind enemy

[spark sinew]

i put s3 yeah

[nocturne cove]

?

[spark sinew]

bind is good

[civic bear]

it gathers enemy nearby too

so you can slam ulpi s3

[spark sinew]

not lvl120
i can leave gladiia for awhile, no one gives a shit about my supps anyway

[jovial nest]

I prio'd S2M3 first. I'm moving to S3 after it finishes

[civic bear]

one ulpi s3 also cycles every gladiia s3

[dapper hedge]

Hers is not rly called bind right

[civic bear]

it is

its bind+slow

[tidal sedge]

Primary target is bound

[wraith herald]

how long to charge ulpi s3?
and is it worth m9? all his skills are good right?

[nocturne cove]

M6

Why m9

[civic bear]

25sp 25 duration

[spark sinew]

i never saw s1 usage

[dapper hedge]

I swear I tot s3 different from normal bind, as in like it goes through immunity, might've been wrong then

[spark sinew]

you can also cancel s3

[smoky halo]

maybe s1 is good for soccer

[civic bear]

uhh

[scarlet mortar]

there's rarely ever bind immunity

[wraith herald]

s1 confuses me cuz he is like normal pullers

[civic bear]

bind immune are its own keyword

and rarely ever exist

[nocturne cove]

Fib how good is uxe mod

[scarlet mortar]

i think you just haven't seen a bind immune enemy

[wraith herald]

most expensive puller

[smoky halo]

isnt it only the main target is bound and the rest are just "pulled" towards the center

[civic bear]

no

all target are pulled toward center

the main target too

it just doesnt move

enters flinched still

[smoky halo]

er

ig that matters only if the main target is bind immune?

[civic bear]

ye

[smoky halo]

[scarlet mortar]

or when you want to do some funny atk cancelling ig

[tidal sedge]

It could matter if bound target is ranged as shift could cancel their attacks

[scarlet mortar]

bc people do that sometimes

[civic bear]

ye

thats why the main target is cancelable

[full terrace]

Hmm this update is really gamechanger for newbies. E2 Amiya/Lappland, borrow Logos and open his domain expansion to farm for big chips and other mats = instant E2 for any rerolled 6 Star.

While leaving everyone at Lv1 E0

[stiff beacon]

Any tips for doing IW-9?

[pure orchid]

Borrow yato s3
???
Win

[jovial nest]

IW.....

I guess they have their own Ethan for S1?

even if unraised, that's fine iirc

but if you want boss nuking

yeah Ya2 S3 is the best for huge bosses

[vernal lion]

someone says Yato?

[jovial nest]

lmao

took advantage of her invulnerability period for Aak

I'm making note of that in case we get another huge boss in events

[spark sinew]

doesn't make use of atkspd buff

might as well put stainless on her instead (obviously here tiles are limited etc, but i mean in general)

[glass monolith]

Sora (Heidi who?)/Skalter

But we barely have huge bosses anyway, UT 5 tiles, IW 3 tiles, chapter 14 2 tiles

[tired rover]

what is the minimum required level for penance to solo patriot?

[civic bear]

pretty low

like why exactly are you asking

sl7 can solo at close to max level

[full terrace]

Some training stages got reskinned 😲

This is the old one #strategy message

[tired rover]

I might try to do that in the future

[civic bear]

tho rather than solo patriot, more like she solos 7-18

h7-4 is different

[tired rover]

and probably make it a trust farm of some sort

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its bad node to farm

[glass monolith]

[nocturne cove]

Free orundum

[signal granite]

This event quite good, i got my burning GG

[glass monolith]

Quartz setting shit ablaze by slapping with greatsword... This event is as close to Dark Souls as it can get

[pearl breach]

Should have used hodor for more immersive experience

[vernal lion]

[glass monolith]

IT MOVES?

How one even get to that state? Nuke everything when boss not linked, then retreat all?

[vernal lion]

totally

also, the boss can be teleported too

[vernal lion]

ok, now this is perfect

[nocturne cove]

Tanky

[vernal lion]

0 def moment

[nocturne cove]

I had an argument about his tankiness yesterday

He despo needs someone

[narrow pendant]

For now

When module he wont

[nocturne cove]

Fr?

Ily fredi

[narrow pendant]

Thanks

[spark sinew]

you want to use him on stages with poison mist/similar

he also likes damaging auras on enemies

[narrow pendant]

I like u

[nocturne cove]

This is what I mean when I said he isn't as good as I expected, hauck

Sure he hits hard 💪

[spark sinew]

yeah he wants to at least outrange a bit

s3 hits very hard

[lapis hornet]

he's map dependant ya

kinda like horn used to be

or bring a healer

[spark sinew]

you can def just

slap gladiia and not bother

but he really shines on some maps that have dot

[lapis hornet]

thing with gladiia is she only heals him right

so it's gotta be worth more than another unit

[spark sinew]

30% dr is huge

[lapis hornet]

ya so again depends on map

think gladiia rly good for records tho

[spark sinew]

never used in male only records

lookin' like a fraud!

[lapis hornet]

an actual scam wdf

his module will help him hopefully

but ya could have asked me I woulda told you help is a perpetual hype bandwagon smh

[nocturne cove]

Fr fraud

[lapis hornet]

most ppl just parrot few actu experienced players there

[spark sinew]

ulpian deserves the hype 🫡

[lapis hornet]

not none tho

[nocturne cove]

I mean I too recommended ulpi

From seeing all those videos

[lapis hornet]

he's fine

[nocturne cove]

But it's different when you have hands on experience

[lapis hornet]

ya

[foggy grove]

I shill exec rerun more than ulpi fr

[nocturne cove]

Yes he just wins by pure stats

[spark sinew]

person discovers a crusher

[nocturne cove]

I have been saying this lol

[lapis hornet]

videos of optimized clears often don't correlate with practical day to day use tbh

[nocturne cove]

I had hoe

But didn't raise cuz so many other ops

In line

[lapis hornet]

but again depends what content you play most

[nocturne cove]

True

He isn't great or superb

Just good

[lapis hornet]

if you're a malder who like to optimize I can see him being v good

[nocturne cove]

If content favors him

He shines

[lapis hornet]

altho

remember rn you're judging modless no trust probs masteries not all done

[nocturne cove]

M1 yes

[lapis hornet]

I've underestimated a couple units at first this way

[nocturne cove]

But that makes effect on base stats,no?

[glass monolith]

I can solo this stage with S1 logos if he don't decide to RNG himself that's why my trust is 2op farm

[lapis hornet]

wis solo this

but I put ulpi in since alr trust farming lol

[nocturne cove]

I will yap later and test first

Lol

[glass monolith]

Wis Solo need to use Wis, which is why I won't

[lapis hornet]

I'm trust farming her so

[foggy grove]

His module is like 100 hps to 156
Doubled on s2

[lapis hornet]

ik ik

w the only one I missed

will grab her whenever I get close to 200

[nocturne cove]

@spark sinew you can remove gladiia

Sorry for ping

[lapis hornet]

lmao

bro hauck hates ping more than anything in life

[nocturne cove]

Could've turned off mentions

I just had to let him know

[glass monolith]

Imagine there is option to have it off by default but I am too dumb to check for it making me look extra dumb

[lapis hornet]

if there's one I'm not aware of it either

[spark sinew]

ityfine if it's actually a useful ping

[regal frost]

@lapis hornet is this true

[glass monolith]

I feel like first half is referring to overwatch

[lapis hornet]

yes very true

[regal frost]

lmao

[strange fable]

overclock?

bro thinks hes engineer monkey

[regal frost]

Gemini is high atm

[glass monolith]

We finance the pulls with orundum we don't have

[lapis hornet]

lancets not a guard.tho not relevant to ulpi

[foggy grove]

i always known saria is dps guard

[regal frost]

I love this

[glass monolith]

I don't love you

[regal frost]

is this how you tell me we're getting divorced

[celest bluff]

if you dont stop posting these I will mail a bomb to one of google database

[regal frost]

please do

get them to remove what they posted on playstore

someone's gonna use this as reroll advice

[nocturne cove]

Get off AI please

🙏😔

[regal frost]

but it's fun

[nocturne cove]

It hurts my brain

[regal frost]

we just can't comprehend how smart it is

I've never thought about using schwarz to tank before

[nocturne cove]

Lol

Do I need neuralink implants to surpass its capabilities??

[glass monolith]

AI in #arknights or idk, it just feels wrong, like do it once all laugh move on, keeping on it just feel cringe and goes against no spam rule

[nocturne cove]

Oops

[vernal lion]

I'm so bad lol

[nocturne cove]

I didn't even read the mechanics

Cuz it was first try

But I gotta now cuz ex might be hard

Logos carried it for me

[vernal lion]

boss is just a piss

you can just kill mob, to kill boss lol

what a mechanism

[glass monolith]

E-(Russian swear word) blade - Kills you with farts if you rush blindly
Lastn't Robot chapter 11 - Kills you if you didn't prepare for bombardment
BSL IS2 - Fuck BSL IS2
But whatever this is is next gen punishment for "rushing the boss"

[vernal lion]

kinda like it

[glass monolith]

I like unique designs and goofy cooking results it yields sometimes

[vernal lion]

the boss in noise correction band sss has similar mechanism like this one

except you have deployable devices which are given by the boss

and you can just kill those things to kill boss, easier and faster

[glass monolith]

Boss who want to end SSS faster as much as we do

[vernal lion]

[rose patrol]

didn't know u can sow tiles in straight line while ulpian s3

[nocturne cove]

Dang

New info

[vernal lion]

I think you mean "still in Shu s3 range"

[tired rover]

is it fine to use tequila and zuo le for units that have high defense?

[vernal lion]

zuo le ✅
tequila ❌

[tired rover]

I see I see thank you

[glass monolith]

If high defense is 5000 then probably no for both

[vernal lion]

is4 ed4 moment

[tired rover]

just defenders from anni 4

[vernal lion]

anni 4 is kazi one right

[tired rover]

yep

[vernal lion]

those one aren't high tho

[tired rover]

oh, then I should just be fine using them right?

[vernal lion]

yea, just watch out for those bladehelms

the atk debuff is the worst

this one

[tired rover]

sweet, many thanks and I will definitely watch out for those

[glass monolith]

It is kind of hard to miss a piece of shit which revive itself

[wise idol]

why is it on auto battle this one goes great on singles but on concourent attemps it just fails 2/3 times

[glass monolith]

Because slimes from dying dudes can spawn in slightly different locations not get blocked and other boring shit

My personal auto on this map had 1 slime sometimes go past the defender, but it is timed with cannon shot so it will die regardless

[wise idol]

this map doesnt have conons

[glass monolith]

Uh..... Well fuck me I am not booting my game to see what map is. And list of potential desync reason is ever expanding so if auto fails do another

[glass monolith]

Not, enough, information to know desync reason. Also Wisadel talent off skill is rng

[wise idol]

her skill 3 is 3

I went broke Maxing her ass out

[celest bluff]

🤨

oh support artillery

this is a first

[pearl breach]

Ch.14 steam knight did it before it was cool

[celest bluff]

map wide artillery that doesnt hurt allies

azur lane

[vernal lion]

kill the sea

using suzuran in here is funny, you can just see all of them getting nuked

[celest bluff]

the side with the better artillery win

[narrow pendant]

Nice sp gen

[celest bluff]

farm

[wraith herald]

that works? how? explaing

[wraith herald]

now we shall manfred them

[scarlet mortar]

nothing interesting

[tidal sedge]

Hey fellers what low rarites are good for this event, I cant beat the first stage due to no operators levelled

[scarlet mortar]

it's done through multiple leaps

just have shu heal him on each tile on the line

[scarlet mortar]

show your roster

[tidal sedge]

ah waymenet

why is there no option to make the roster icons smaller

[glass monolith]

Dude you missed time before discord image compress QoL, when posting 2 images would make 2 messages, 3 - 3 and so on

[scarlet mortar]

ftr don't stick to levelling high rarity ops only

you haven't put that many levels into them so it's fine, but e.g. mountain's not gonna be useful until he's E1

[tidal sedge]

oh yeah I leveled em for the mission things and for survival shi

[scarlet mortar]

and it's more expensive to promote him than 4*s who'll help you farm for now

think you'll need more levels to play the stages proper tbh

for now uh, kroos can handle the flying things

[tidal sedge]

mhh yeah emiya dies fast on the event too

even my kroos

amiya I mean oops

[scarlet mortar]

bring bait

[tidal sedge]

yeah I do uh tank on the middle spot last deploy

or just the vanguard I have for bait

[obsidian skiff]

Imo better for u to play story and supplies first, just ignore this current event

[scarlet mortar]

yeag this would be where i tell you to level your defenders instead of ulpianus and mountain

if you want to come back to it after getting more levels, amiya uses S1 btw

S2/3 are impractical for you rn

[tidal sedge]

ogey

I'll do more stuff to level my low raries

[stiff beacon]

i find it mildly amusing that rope can solo those lightsable guys

[full terrace]

Honestly I'd suggest you to E2 Lv80 Lappland instead of Amiya because Laneholder. But anyway, you borrow Wisadel and breeze through the event. I did this just fine on my alt account with everyone at Lv1, it's 100% possible.

[tidal sedge]

oh borrows why didn't I think of that

What class is Wisadel? I'm gonna try to get friends

[lofty stag]

flinger sniper, but that doesnt matter much compared to the unit itself

[tidal sedge]

should be an bow symbol yeah?

[lofty stag]

that would be the sniper class yes

[tidal sedge]

aight I'll look for friends with em

[full terrace]

At #friend-id try looking for the Lv90 Max Pot (P6/Pot 6) ones.

[celest bluff]

Oh yeah they give everyone e2 ticket for five star now

[full terrace]

Yah newbies are pampered now

Can even ignore stage mechanics for early chapters

[celest bluff]

So people can just borrow Balanc right out of the gate

[full terrace]

With newbies started this way, brace yourself for a new generation of skill issues

[celest bluff]

I would expect they use the e2 ticket on useless shits

[full terrace]

Unlikely, if they went to #help I'm sure people there will guide them

Esp with rerolled accounts

[pure orchid]

I got mlynar pot3 and ulpi in 88 pulls

I have no idea how ill recover before exalter rerun

[wise idol]

out of these operators who should i give the elite 2 token too?

[pure orchid]

Bryo for base

[proud temple]

@regal frost what u think

[wise idol]

your a new account yes?

[proud temple]

Yeah

[wise idol]

excusia is Deffiently also worth E2ing as well and get aymia up as well

[idle granite]

what support should i bring to the lungmen downtown anni?

[proud temple]

Thorns is good

He can deal additional Dot to the demolitionists

[idle granite]

i was using wis'adel but the drones kept failing me lmao

[idle granite]

i see, ill try it out tommorow then

[proud temple]

Goodluck

[idle granite]

thanks

[proud temple]

Wis can't hit aerial btw

Flinger trait

[idle granite]

yea

[wise idol]

wis isnt ur typical archer she doesnt priortise drones

[proud temple]

It's not that she doesn't she can't hit them without S3

[idle granite]

i had to time her skills for her to hit the drones

[wise idol]

lol I went broke making her S3 M3

[proud temple]

Regarding my team I don't have to prior an e2 in a while

I have lapp e2

From the ticket

[wise idol]

lappy E2 is nice

[proud temple]

Actually from the 6* selector I'll prolly get mountain

[wise idol]

Mountain is Expensive to E2 BTW

[proud temple]

I'm gonna wait for @regal frost

[proud temple]

He doesn't need e2 for me

[proud temple]

I just need his s2

[wise idol]

he can hold a lane down by him self with S3

[proud temple]

S3 is kinda niche

Because you won't be using him to push off enemies

[wise idol]

no its usefull

[proud temple]

S2 is more useful cus it's a brain dead AFK skill xd

[wise idol]

particularly in maps where WAVES of enemys come

[pure orchid]

modern ops like zuo and logos make this stage just sad

[nocturne cove]

I also used Zuo le

💪

[pure orchid]

high dmg reduction but low hp bozos when logos s1

Bro ate

[pure orchid]

My initial clear had schwarz on dodge duty

Now its just whatever this is

[nocturne cove]

i had to clear that chapter so fast to get logos mats that i dont remember what shit i did

[pure orchid]

I remember the cannon fucking me over

[proud temple]

I hated ch10 so much man

Especially 10-11 I think

[pure orchid]

But since hg started rolling out 0-2 block bozos that do a buncha shit, it slowly stopped mattering

[nocturne cove]

Necrosis

[pure orchid]

ascalon, mlynar, zuo, degen, exalt, etc

[nocturne cove]

I despise that thing

[pure orchid]

and then busted ranged units

[nocturne cove]

Hated it so much

[proud temple]

Now you have necrosis to counter the enemies

[pure orchid]

now you put a 3-block on some indiscriminate part of the map and sleep

[proud temple]

[nocturne cove]

Logos necrosis

Hope I get arturia as off rate

Cuz I wanna spark nearl

[proud temple]

Good luck

I'm not gonna spend any orundum on pepe

[lofty stag]

i cast offrate rosmontis

[proud temple]

I'll try to get narantuya using free pulls

But I doubt it

[nocturne cove]

I already have ros

No....

[lofty stag]

dont care, i cast another offrate rosmontis

[nocturne cove]

...

Cruel

[lofty stag]

[nocturne cove]

i was thinking to pull om exec cuz ulpi didnt event scratch my savings but then i have to remember that luck is always not good and i want nymph and marcille too so i will have to skip a lot

[full terrace]

Greyy alter or Elysium

[wise idol]

wich ones is that?

[proud temple]

Why greyy alter lol

[glass monolith]

Idk but everyone hyping his performance in IS modes

[full terrace]

Greyy the Lightningbearer (Sniper). Elysium (Vanguard).

[proud temple]

IS what

[smoky halo]

is5

he is also a decent pick in is4

but mainly for is5

[proud temple]

Oh it's is5

I've been seeing lots of comments saying is5 is easy

What's it based on again?

[smoky halo]

sarkaz

[wise idol]

can you give pictur ot them lol

[proud temple]

Oh does it have that one relic

[full terrace]

I'm on alt account rite now 😅

[proud temple]

Ely is the vanguard next to Heidi and nine coloured deer

[full terrace]

I have been enjoying the newbie experience again

[smoky halo]

take no dmg from sarkaz enemies?

no they removed it lol

[proud temple]

Yea

[full terrace]

Well.. "modern" newbie experience

[smoky halo]

that's too op

kek

[proud temple]

Awh

Is it still in is2?

[smoky halo]

yes

[proud temple]

Gud

[smoky halo]

they don't remove relics in old IS

[proud temple]

Did you make the account before or after 12/3

[full terrace]

Before. It was Wisadel banner

[proud temple]

Ah

[serene spoke]

Does wisadel powercreep is5 before it even releases

[narrow pendant]

Is5 can be done with zero(0, null) ops

So, existence powercreeps is5

[serene spoke]

how the f

These sarkaz aren’t trying hard enough

[narrow pendant]

Reroll squad op

[serene spoke]

When does it drop

[narrow pendant]

Is5?

Sometime after nymph

So, around 2 months? Who knows

[tidal sedge]

Wow you guys were right

Wisadel can just clear the stages

dunno what I'm doing though, and I can't really farm

[glass monolith]

Good news most stages are done for sake of doing them and most farm stages are as casual as it can gets. Outside times when some game dev decides to do RNG fest boss into farm stage

[tidal sedge]

what even is the best state to farm in this event?

I couldn't even advance stage one without borrowing Wis

[narrow pendant]

7>6>5

[tidal sedge]

Okay, I'll see if I can do any of those without borrowing

[celest bluff]

I find it funny that low ops farming for BP-7/6/5 can be using just Wisadel

[tidal sedge]

yeah I just dropped her alone on 7

Is she an anniversary unit or something

[narrow pendant]

CN 5th anni yea

Was here from oct 10

was it october? Or 1st november? I dont rmb anynore

[tidal sedge]

mhh no wonder

dang idk how I finished 8 but Wisadel definitely did it alone

[tidal sedge]

Okay yeah I wish I had her, I didn't know what was happening in 9 but everything just vanished

[full terrace]

You missed her by a few weeks. If you wanna get her, save your Orundum and pull her next year.

[tidal sedge]

Are there any units that are like her coming out?

I don't really know who to pull for

[full terrace]

Lol no. She is the strongest unit in the game atm.

[cyan gorge]

I fear the day when that statement is no longer true

[tidal sedge]

Yeah that'd be funny.

[full terrace]

Knowing Hypergryph, she'll be powercrept eventually, but I dont think it will happen anytime soon.

[tidal sedge]

I don't even know how she nukes

[cyan gorge]

Her nuke is locked behind e2 and 3rd skill

[near cypress]

Are you all doing the brainrot challenge?

I cleared it, but wasn't able to 3 star. Still, the challenge was to clear it, not 3 star it, so I beat the brainrot allegations

[spark sinew]

i think it's implied that you need to clear it as 3*

[lofty stag]

what challenge was this again

[near cypress]

Clear 11-20 adverse with only the first 6 star op you got in each class

[tidal sedge]

dang

[lofty stag]

right right

[near cypress]

Thats the steam knight boss stage btw

[lofty stag]

im still tryan raise my last 2 ops

to do this challenge

btw whats your roster

for this challenge

[near cypress]

My team was Exia, Gladiia, Kal, Eyja, Bagpipe, Saria, Suzuran, Blaze

[lofty stag]

im guessing this account is an old one

[near cypress]

I started in Kal/Skalter event

So old, but definitely not as old as a lot of people here

[lofty stag]

Here’s mine

i think you can see my last 2 ops that need building

before i attempt

[near cypress]

Penance is a GOD on this stage

[lofty stag]

she is

problem is

everything else

farthest i got

was phase 2

lack of any usable heals doesnt help

[near cypress]

Yeah

Your healing is... a very big problem

[lofty stag]

im unironically thinking magallan would actually be helpful here

she aint no ling

but she aint clownslayer either

i also gotta m3 fartooth s3

and s3m3 mod 3 sash

[near cypress]

I did another clear just for fun to test out my patented Aak + Penance combo and it makes the stage so easy

Not only can Penance solo Steam Knight with Aak constantly giving her massive shields, all of the rocket cars and poison shield cars just kill themselves to her reflect damage

And her HP is always the highest on the map so that protects the rest of you team from the artillery barrages

[lofty stag]

ig the caveat is literally aak giver her shields

[near cypress]

Yes she needs Aak to be able to solo Steam knight

[lofty stag]

like my main problem is survivability

rather than dmg

[near cypress]

Yeah your comp really, really needs better healing sadly

[lofty stag]

i still think its possible

[near cypress]

It will require good Magellan usage I think

[lofty stag]

i just gotta build them

but thats a later problem

if theres a gap between new characters

i might return to building this team

[near cypress]

A good tip is to use Mon3tr to bait out steam knight's artillery barrages

She will always have the highest HP

[lofty stag]

was it this stage where the barrages negate tile usage

[near cypress]

Nope

[lofty stag]

that kinda makes it better

[near cypress]

They just deal huge damage in an AOE around your 2 highest HP deployed units

[spark sinew]

i would be surprised if there's a combination of 6 ops that can't clear it

[near cypress]

Which should always be mon3tr and penance

[spark sinew]

we tried to find one for awhile and failed

specifically crafted to be shit

[lofty stag]

really

[spark sinew]

that was also pre sa mod

[lofty stag]

my main problem with this team is survivability rather than dmg

[near cypress]

I feel like there are a lot of ops who just barely do anything at all?

My Exia was pretty much useless, I just used her to bait attacks because her damage was negligible against every enemy

I'm sure there will be a lot more like her

[regal frost]

looks good, no need for nearl though imo, just E1 spot for base and you can use him for a bit until you get chips and lmd for saria

would also replace Amiya with Stewart
can ditch lumen for perfumer for now since she's cheaper and you should be fine without him
also perfumer E1 for base anyway

[lofty stag]

@spark sinew do you think this team can clear the stage, or would i need to fully build it out to have a chance

[spark sinew]

exu still does well on mobs, no

[lofty stag]

i think even if she does kill the mobs, the dot on death might not be fun

[near cypress]

I do wonder if a giga-tanky unit like Eunectes with a strong healer ie Eyjaberry could infinitely tank steam knight with no other help. I imagine she could

I say Eune because she's the tankiest defender I can think of other than enmity units

Penance + Aak can tank forever on phase 1, but you do have a (admittedly very long) timer on phase 2 before her shields run out

[regal frost]

doesn't ulpianus tank steam knight? or did I misremember

[lofty stag]

i think he did, tho i do think gladiia was a must

[spark sinew]

even just hoshi tanks SK if i remember right

with shining

so it's a common lienup honestly

[glass monolith]

I tanked SK with Quartz Stainless S3 because I could

[void terrace]

Pennace can tank the steam knight with enough support

Aak and the sui gang

[crimson turret]

9-19 is kicking my ass, what do I do?

I tried the pillars: but they either:
-> don't help much
-> get accidentally destroyed before Mandra is close enough, or
-> get destroyed by Mandra

[spark sinew]

last 2 shouldn't happen accidentally at all, you can fully control it

for the first point, boss loses DR when hit, so you want to have some burst damage right after

[turbid badge]

wtf

that's what I did

haven't tried with sui

though

but did it with stainless

[crimson turret]

second one is mainly due to Walter's summons tbh

there aren't a lot of tiles where she can be positioned without her first summon spawning next to a pillar

probably should either ditch her for this one and/or think of smth else

[spark sinew]

or like

retreat a summon...

[crimson turret]

...

I may be dumber than I thought

I forgot they can be retreated

[spark sinew]

should be fine
i can't really test it cause i don't have fart and Lin (and my all other units are lvl 90 there)

the shitty comps i mentioned above also were piloted by a better player i was too lazy so it's possible i wouldn't clear it anyway

[proud temple]

I switched accounts btw

I don't have saria here

[jovial nest]

What skill do you default on Dusk?

[hazy sinew]

1 is default but she isn’t used all that much

[lofty stag]

...especially if the upcoming archtype powercreeps her

[regal frost]

how many alts do you have

[proud temple]

I've made like 7

Not counting rerolls

But most are gone

[regal frost]

funnily enough I also had 7

I think I lost 2

[proud temple]

I lost one with yato alt

[crimson turret]

still getting my ass kicked even with retrieving Walter's summons, any advice on this comp?

[proud temple]

Btw

[proud temple]

Use pillars to knock her down on phase 2

[regal frost]

didn't you have more progress on your other alt?

why switch

[proud temple]

Beginner reasons

You have 14 days of all resource stages being opened

[regal frost]

fair enough

[proud temple]

And also login rewards are pumped up now anyway

The starter 5* consists of specter, ptilo, lappy and cliff

[regal frost]

just realised I haven't even used my vouchers on alt yet

[proud temple]

They're pretty good

Also 6* voucher is on day 5

I'll probs get thorns instead of mountain

[regal frost]

fair

since you have blaze

actually