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narrow pendant
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Durian is rma no?

full terrace
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Yeh

narrow pendant
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Yellow spikey ball

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That was shu yes

full terrace
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Drat, did I really skip that coz I farmed a bit during Harold

narrow pendant
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Harold was aketon and poly

narrow patrol
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Eblana? You’re ihhh. Gonna want an elemental healer or borrow
Eyjalt because Eblana ohase 2 pretty much ignited everything on the map

narrow pendant
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Just tank it bro

full terrace
narrow pendant
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I spent like 6k sanity on shu event

full terrace
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Good move.

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I'll make sure to farm 200 at the next Durian event sigh

narrow pendant
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Now i got like 2k sanity in pots for ulpipi sugar farming, have like 3

narrow pendant
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So youll be fine

full terrace
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Yah someone told me its around mid December or somethin

narrow pendant
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Gel is also there, so 2 good mats to farm

narrow pendant
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So close to christmas

nocturne flax
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is degenbercher worth moduling?

late bane
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Yes

lapis hornet
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if you use her get mod1 at least

narrow patrol
mild agate
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how do you deal with the invisible nourished spewers as no matter who i use as a defender and how many healers i put ontop of them in SN-S-1-A they keep just getting rapid fire deleted

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as im aware you sit a defender ontop of the brand to prevent the spread and ive been trying to use a combo of gummy, spot, ptilopsis and sussurro to out heal the damage but nothings really worked so far

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ive seen some guides borrowing hoshiguma but i need to use the borrow slot for lappland since i dont have my own copy of her

full terrace
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If you use someone like Hoshi to stop the spread, she can keep everyone else safe, also she can tank quite a few hits from those Spewers

lucid thorn
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Yo anyone here have a Weedy S2M3 that I can borrow haven't master mine yet and I really need it badd

full terrace
mild agate
lucid thorn
full terrace
narrow pendant
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So he can add u

lapis hornet
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that's disa bro

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wdf

lucid thorn
lapis hornet
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@pallid veldt you're igneus now

pallid veldt
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Wtf

full terrace
smoky halo
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maybe disa is secretly igneous mspaintwow

lapis hornet
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not secret anymore

lucid thorn
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Cheers mate

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Wish me luck

full terrace
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I did.

full terrace
mild agate
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that or ill just wait for the new event on the third so i can build jay to e1 60 and borrow a hoshi

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and stop thinking about it

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either or

full terrace
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That works yeah lol

spark sinew
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hoshi can actually tank them, sure, but I'm confident they borrowed her for reflect as well

mild agate
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I have absolutely no idea how you are supposed to do this stage without hoshi though

glass monolith
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It is called pull out Totter

full terrace
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Very high Defense to survive the Spewer's rapidfire or long-range shoot those Spewers using Wisadel.

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Or Typhon

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Plus anti-stealth.

glass monolith
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Oh wait it is not invis Spewer map? HellaKek

scarlet fulcrum
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Thats ines dagger

full terrace
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There is fenced (safe tile) for revealer on the left there

scarlet fulcrum
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Its doable without reflect

glass monolith
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Yea but i believe there are no creep on top side normally on invis Spewer side unless you rush bubble boi

full terrace
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SA works, Ely works to an extent.

scarlet fulcrum
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They trigger it there

full terrace
scarlet fulcrum
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I once helped someone who dont want to do lapp nor reflect

mild agate
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Now I have to do the easier version of the stage?

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Where there’s no invisibility

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So I guess I can just nuke them from across the screen with Wis’adel

glass monolith
mild agate
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Yeah the stage ended with 8 of them ontop of Hoshi

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It was wild

glass monolith
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He locks on 4 max and reveal only those 4 for entire skill

full terrace
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SA then, or Ines or Jessica

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Shouldnt be a big deal.

scarlet fulcrum
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E0 scene also works

forest lagoon
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tsukinogi time

full terrace
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No high ground tile for Tsuki I dont think.

mild agate
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How exactly are you supposed to use ines against those invisible enemies beyond placing her down for her knife

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As I tried putting her on the top left square near the invisible enemies but I found she would just get insta killed if I tried it

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And by the time the enemies would get within range on the ground the brand would have spread so she’d just get insta shredded. I’m assuming id need a unit like hoshi to body block to make her work or im just not using her correctly

full terrace
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If you retreat her for the thingy, then you got those 2 tiles. But if you time her skill well, she has Invisibility while her S2 is active, you can reveal all 3 tiles on the left.

mild agate
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I take it she probably needs mastery’s to make that strat work though

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In order to reduce the SP wait for the first skill activation as much as possible

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Or can that be done at M0?

full terrace
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I thought you cleared that stage already? I'm on an alt account, I'll make you a short clip with Ines later.

mild agate
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but yeah thanks in advance for the clip

full terrace
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It's super messy, but you should get the idea.

mild agate
# full terrace

oh ok this actually looks waaay simpler than i thought it would be

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ok thanks for showing that, this should make getting an auto deploy for the stage much easier

full terrace
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I dont know why you wanna auto-deploy that stage but good luck.

mild agate
glass monolith
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I can get behind "no friend support just cuz" reason. But i still think we overstaying on that specific stage HellaHands Or i am salty about having issues with S-4 specifically

mild agate
# full terrace

I used the general strategy you presented as a baseline and managed to clear it without a support

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Thanks very much for the assist the video really helped

full terrace
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You are welcome 😂

mild agate
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That was a colossal waste of time but it made me appreciate just how GOATed Jaye is

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I’ll need to use him more where applicable

spark sinew
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wisadel, logos3, ines Bnuuy

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double texas

mild agate
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I also used Ela in the clear but I found ash also works

spark sinew
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a wonder how you cleared the stage eith such a bad roster tbh

proud dune
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How do I beat Kristen

full terrace
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What kind of Kristen? CW-10, CW-EX-8, or CW-S-4? Also show what operators you have.

proud dune
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Ex-8 challenge and S-4

full terrace
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Burst Phase 1, destroy balls, murder her Phase 2.

proud dune
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Destroying the balls while trying to not die to mechs or have Kristen run off isn’t easy

civic bear
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Would have to look at your team

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And see who's best to borrow

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Weedy would make mechs easier to isolate

proud dune
civic bear
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Borrow weedy and just use cannon to push the bottom mech to the right and up then

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Now both ranged mech are in one place

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And wisadel kills

full terrace
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CW-EX-8 with that much firepower you can just ignore balls

cyan plover
# proud dune

With your roster your problem will probably be keeping the boss alive. If you don't destroy the ball and you kill the boss to early it's gonna kill your ops.

civic bear
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They all live one ball explosion

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Just don't destroy two at once

cyan plover
# proud dune

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This is basically your guide.

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Plenty of filler ops you can use in case you mess up.

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Also make sure that wis doesn't kill the crossdroad prototype too early or it'll leak some enemies.

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Or you can just put ops to block them once it starts leaking.

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Plenty of ways of fixing the run in case it messes up tbh. Especially with your roster.

wide sail
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kristen has 378k ehp 800 def 50 res in phase 2 on ex8 cm

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creature method goes hard

full fog
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Can someone help me with Cw-s-4

pure orchid
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Send ops BagThumbsUp

pure orchid
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No wis is sad but we make do

full fog
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The support op that works best for me at least is Młynar

pure orchid
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oh you're open to using supports? wis might be a better choice then, as with any stage...

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which specific part are you having trouble with btw

full fog
sick knoll
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Cw s 4 a or b

pure orchid
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no problem with opening? good

pure orchid
full fog
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I think

pure orchid
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an ng borrow might be good for balls so you can tank the arts dmg explosion

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mlynar is just a dps, you can compensate with other things

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e2 CE and/or shu would've been really nice but i guess we'll also just have to make do with an ng borrow

full fog
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Stupid question but... what's an ng?

sick knoll
full fog
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Oh

full fog
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That's why I'm grinding to at least get SA's module

pure orchid
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I think shaw + healer holds left, arts dps optional
virtuosa + saria holds right, pusher or phys dps optional
For balls, try to burst kristen down on p1 so she spawns little to no balls as much as possible
As for p2, logos s3 and silverash will just make things explode and ng will keep you safe from the explosions

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You can open with something like reedic + vivi/jessicat to block one or both rocket robots

full terrace
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NG = No Good. Sentence example: Qyurii is NG 👍

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Nah I'm just kidding, it's Nightingale

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You are in good hand

pure orchid
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Thanks flan GoldenglowSad

full fog
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Huh... I see

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For once in a few months, Vivi finally has a use for me

pure orchid
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Poor vivi builders

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Id only build vivi for base

full fog
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And the fact I have no other boss killer at the time

robust quartz
full fog
pure orchid
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Id replace medmiya for a proper medic, and you forgot ng; otherwise, you're good BagThumbsUp

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Kinda have no idea how you'll burst kristen p1 but you'll probably make it

full fog
pure orchid
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wherever you have more ops PodencoSip

pure orchid
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Flan 🤨

full fog
pure orchid
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Logos s3 is good, virt doesnt do much for bosses so just relegate her to s1 for mob duty

full fog
pure orchid
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3

full terrace
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Speaking of NG, my NG is now out of incubator yay

next ledge
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hello can someone handhold my acc for lone trail metals last minute SkadiDaijoubu

wide sail
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i remember copying kyostinv guides on the original run but that was actually torture theres probably easier solo core for ex8 and s4 with wisadel

next ledge
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the thing is someone handheld my acc already and didnt complete metals i thought i could do em but its just cos very last minute '-'

wide sail
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what is trim again

next ledge
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the case investigation

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complete all

wide sail
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oh yeah

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what medals missing

next ledge
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i have 5 rn

wide sail
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case investigation is timegated right

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did u finish it or are u cooked

next ledge
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missing the 2 secret zone, complete all the pursuing of the present stages, compete all content in instruction catalogue and complete 2 case investigation

next ledge
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i did one.

wide sail
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if u collected 12 token i think its fine

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it costs 1 to unlock each mission right

next ledge
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thats what it looks like

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;-;

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prob cant trim

wide sail
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pretty sure its joever

cyan plover
somber stone
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At least untrimmed matches SkadiDaijoubu

cyan plover
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Mayyybe after this it's gonna go to sidestory or intermezzi? Is it possible to acquire them through there? PtiloThonk

next ledge
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no

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u cant get metals there unfortunetly

cyan plover
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Damn I see.

next ledge
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after the rerun u can no longer get metals

full terrace
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@pure orchid enlighten me, what kind of metals? Maybe he meant steel

full fog
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Hopefully I get to have full medals for this event

next ledge
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its fine il redeem myself with ulpianus event GoldenglowSad

proud dune
full fog
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Thank god Eyjaberry is in my support

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Cause my God her S3 was a savior when I wanted to use Logos and/or SA

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Time to do CM

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Woops wrong screenshot

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There we go

full fog
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Goodnight, Terra

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Thanks for the help

winged eagle
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congrats, man BagThumbsUp

pure orchid
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grats dark Amiyaya

red pecan
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so uh

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My mistake on H13-4 was destroying the alter too quickly

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This is working?

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Okay I still fucked up during end

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How to tank Sainguinarch phase two literally without dying

remote perch
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you don't

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you have to burst him as fast as possible at phase 2

desert saddle
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I just used shu and 2 medics + skalter LingWoah

civic bear
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You need bunch of healer to tank ye cuz he hits hard

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Not recommended

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You only got shining as healer no

slim wyvern
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Ulpianus is going to trivialize tanking him because of his talent healing soon, at least.

civic bear
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Move shining to bottom on p2. Blaze don't need help for phase 2 other than shu

slim wyvern
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The persistent phase 2 DoT is just free healing for him.

desert saddle
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I'm struggling with linebreaker phase 2 with -40% hp weather an no time to deploy as he is the only unit left to spawn BlushKat hoshi gets 2shot and does not make it with 2 healers and a shu

red pecan
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I got a friend's maxed shu to help

civic bear
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Not sure if that's still enough even then but maybe

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Boss DPS should be like 700ish

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So 600 with shelter

red pecan
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I switched Arturia for Kaltsit

civic bear
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That works

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Kals2/s3?

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Kals3 helps killing slugs . Kal s2 is the better healer later since you can deploy monster outside of range just to abuse Kal s2 increased aspd for healing saria

red pecan
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Kals3

Ooooo didn't know actually thanks

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Okay he's so tanky

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I'm going to mastery some and come back to this stage sometime later
Or I should just suck it up and get a walter clear

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That means getting her to m3

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Or she doesn't help here either

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Hmmm

vocal leaf
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be sure to be using the machine to weaken him, and. burst him down during that period, you can use it up to 4 times, should have enough time

civic bear
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you are supposed to use the cart thing

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hit him with it

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it removes boss damage reduction for a lil while

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ideally you summon both carts but dont push it yet

red pecan
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Yeeee I did hit him with it but

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I couldn't the second one hit him

civic bear
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top one first

vocal leaf
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you should be able to use them twice, right after you hit him with one, summon another before he destroys it

red pecan
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Alrighty

vocal leaf
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try more stall operators too, like ethan or anyone higher rarity

civic bear
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summon both top and bottom.
wait until the cart summon sp almost back to full. then push top one. when it hits immediately summon top one again, push bottom now, summon another one bottom when it hits. you can immediately push top one too around the same time as the bottom 1st cart hits.

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so like top1-bot1+top2-bot2

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in your screenshot saria is already at the chokepoint

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so the cart will hit

vocal leaf
red pecan
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Okie

desert saddle
opaque aspen
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Asking here since it makes sense:

I'm trying to use qiubai and zuo le since i got them on the joint op and i have more than enough meta ops already. I'm looking for useful supports for either of them (i already have ela and mostima who's not built), what would you suggest?

And i know suzuran's a very good combo with qiubai, should i try to get her if i get the chance?

pure orchid
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This is more of a #help question since #strategy is more of for clearing maps

vocal leaf
spark sinew
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should've reed2

vocal leaf
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true, i used s3 just in case for the other mobs

spark sinew
opaque bridge
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need help on IS EX 8

cant 3*

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most progress i had was with this one. should i try borrow something else

somber falcon
opaque bridge
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other than that nothing much except for the cleaners

somber falcon
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wis should be able to kill him easily

opaque bridge
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yeah zaaro isnt that much of a problem but the cleaner and mob waves prolly

opaque aspen
civic bear
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Her strength is not in the cycle

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But on how potent it is

opaque aspen
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So not a good pair with qiubai i'm guessing? Or at least not more than ela

civic bear
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Doesn't even work with qiubai

foggy grove
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doesn't works

smoky halo
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most is mvoespd reduc

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qb want slow

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2 diff things

opaque aspen
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Oh so not even slow HellaKek

somber falcon
opaque bridge
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does he somehow hit high ground tiles or did i not time skills well enough

somber falcon
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he does on p2

civic bear
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He becomes ranged on p2

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Do proper deployment order

somber falcon
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^
deploy shu last

wise idol
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so 10-11 is Hardish

desert saddle
jade rose
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Can anyone help me at 6-5?

opaque bridge
jade rose
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alright

lapis hornet
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if you want the easy way out

opaque bridge
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cause you just need something to soak up damage from the spears

lapis hornet
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borrow a saria or a shu or smth

celest bluff
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hoshi

lapis hornet
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hoshi works but you'd need a healer

jade rose
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do shu work

opaque bridge
foggy grove
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ofc

jade rose
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oh wait you've already said shu lmao, mb

nocturne cove
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Penance solos

foggy grove
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saria is tankier even so

lapis hornet
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ya penance works also

full terrace
opaque bridge
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oh lmao i remember my initial run borrowing a penance

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but challenge mode i think i borrowed some1 else

jade rose
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just realized that the enemy actually gets DoT, ill just try and level up a tank op to take all the damage

lapis hornet
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yeah it's just tanking check

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used to be stumble block for many cause ppl get told bricks are bad

opaque bridge
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but for CM you just need a penance right LappDumb (forgot how i cleared mine but lolz)

lapis hornet
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need is a nonsense word /duck

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but sure she works

jade rose
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thanks alot y'all, it worked out well

opaque bridge
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or you can just go unga bunga idk

mild wind
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idt the spears are that problematic. its the melee ones

foggy grove
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he has wis so really

mild wind
foggy grove
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he has problem opening LappKek since no brick in sight

void terrace
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Good ol spot beagle cardigan spam

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Or just borrow ines

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Or borrow a brick

opaque bridge
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last map… What do I take note of?

nocturne cove
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Initial rush

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The enemies can kill your vg

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Use roadblocks to funnel them

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Bring ethan or ascalon

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Invis reveal

jade rose
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can i kill faust by just pulling him into a hole

opaque bridge
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ez clap

nocturne cove
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I completely forget that wisadel exists

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I sometimes don't even bring her to stages

narrow pendant
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I dont even deploy herReedBean

full terrace
# jade rose can i kill faust by just pulling him into a hole

Depends on Faust's pathing and positioning. But you can with Angelina if he ever walks 1 tile next to a hole. You can block him next to the hole, and then repeatedly push/pull him into it. His Weight is 5, a "Significantly" modifier has 2 Shift Force, and a "Greatly" modifier has 3. Angelina's Weightless modifier is -1, so at the end, you got -2 from applying 2 Shift Force on 4 Weight with "Significantly", which moves him 0.12 tile.

jade rose
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oh, i was thinking of using rope to do that

full terrace
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Nah Rope cant do that.

jade rose
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will it not work

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sad

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how about rope + F-EATER

full terrace
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You need max Gladiia or Weedy, someone like them.

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With full Mastery.

jade rose
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alright thanks

narrow pendant
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Im hoping to cook some luck for mah pulls

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Habe 80 to my name

nocturne cove
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I don't even have 50+

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But pity from JO

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30ish pulls or something

narrow pendant
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Lets hope i get ascalon banner luck

nocturne cove
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Idc I'm happy if I get him in first 30

narrow pendant
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I need to save for nymphReedBean

nocturne cove
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We also have a JO

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Hope we have ascalon on that

narrow pendant
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Idc for jo

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Qiubai i habe, degen too, ascalon too

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Smh, useless jo

nocturne cove
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There won't be same op as in CN

glass monolith
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Soon i will hit "300 unique operators" medal TexasPeek

nocturne cove
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Go

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Gl

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tell me a unique/fun 5 star unit to raise

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@glass monolith

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Doesn't need to be good

glass monolith
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Idk. Blacknight for her ridicilous S2 sleep? HellaKek

full terrace
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Tin Man.

glass monolith
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Eveeyone will build Tin Man because that shit is way to OMEGALUL to skip at

nocturne cove
modern copper
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hey chat, tryna do jt8-3, i can sometimes time it such that my purestream doesnt get killer queened but i still die anyway at the fireball tank part

modern copper
nocturne cove
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I'm bored

modern copper
nocturne cove
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Download and works on vlc

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Oh it can't be downloaded

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Lol

glass monolith
nocturne cove
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Sv didn't you fail like a lot of times on this stage

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😭

glass monolith
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Well i failed to learn to be better person.... And now i have 12 man aketon farm where Skadi punch talulah in face for 2 minutes

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Talulah deserved it

nocturne cove
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Talulah should be playable

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But it seems like it won't be soon

glass monolith
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We have one playable clown, no thanks bro

nocturne cove
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Hm?

modern copper
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heres my run

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wanna see how i failed on jt8-3

glass monolith
# late bane What he do

He has buff to "DoT" damages. But because game is coded on pasta "DoT" include some fun stuff. Like bonus damage of Nymph S3 against enemies affected by Necrosis etc

full terrace
split cloak
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Mlynar+ela mines+qb+surtr almost 1 cycled the boss lol

modern copper
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do i place walter before the other medic so that the acenstor minions tank it before the medic does?

full terrace
# modern copper how do i not get them to kill me tho

No that wouldnt fix the core problem. Talulah ignites the 2 last deployed operators every 20 secs. The ignition alone is already hurtful and has a fairly long duration, yet on top of that, at a certain interval, Talulah would make the ignited operators explode, and the explosion would spread fireballs at the 4 cardinal directions (go to 1:49 in your video). Adjacent operators hit by the explosion's fireballs receive heavy damage, and also get ignited.

modern copper
civic bear
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yes

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but you can retreat them

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technically you can control the spawn placement by just deploying units in places you dont want it to spawn too

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do you not have gravel? shes 4* fast redeploy

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kafka not very good at baiting since she got invis

modern copper
civic bear
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no but its every 19~s

regal frost
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it's at set interval

civic bear
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which matches with fast redeploy

full terrace
# modern copper i did mostly place the ops such that the cross explode wouldnt ignite others but...

Revenants help but they are not the most efficient method to control the ignition, first of all they always spawn next to Wisadel, and when they get ignited, there is high chance Talulah would make them explode, and the explosion will kill Wisadel because they are next to her. So at the end, if you are using them to bait the ignitions, you are bound to retreat them constanly, meaning Wisadel will phase in and out of her S3 and just basically charging her skill to bait ignitions, which significantly reduces her firepower.

regal frost
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so can count seconds if needed

civic bear
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its slightly longer than redeploys of frd so once you bait it you just retreat and deploy whenver you can

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and just keep repeating this

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like start there. before purestream deploy, just deploy a gravel+random frd (or even vanguard yato)

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theyre cheap

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then retreat the two

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then deploy your medic

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makes things a lot easier

full terrace
# modern copper is there any sign tals about to flame someone?

There is an sfx with bell ringing ring ring when she is about to ignite. There are 2 methods to counter her mechanics:

  • First method is by outhealing the ignitions, and positioning the ignited operators in a way that the explosions wont overlap. Check out this clip for this method #strategy message
  • Second method is to constantly deploy Fast-Redeploy units to bait the ignitions, and then retreat immediately. If you bait the ignitions nobody is dying, and no crossfire explosion will happen. Check out this short clip for this method #strategy message
    Edit: Ignition is every 20 secs
civic bear
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its not every 30s skill cooldown is 19s

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the cross explosion is 35s

full terrace
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Thats what kyostin said when I watched his guide back then, I didnt really count how many secs exactly, but Gravel's cooldown matches its interval perfectly.

nocturne mountain
#

Pls help 12 19 😭😭😭

full terrace
#

What is 12-19 again

nocturne mountain
#

12-19 standard. Enemy not identified

full terrace
#

Lemme check brb

#

This? What are you struggling with?

nocturne mountain
#

The enemy always fails to be identified

full terrace
#

What do you mean fail to be identified?

foggy grove
#

he didn't read instigator desciption

civic bear
#

there is this flag enemy

full terrace
#

You block them with someone and identify, this was in the TR tutorial.

civic bear
#

you need to kill the flag guy

#

so you can block the civilians

#

thats probably why you cant identify them

#

these looking guys

#

theres white theres also red ones

nocturne mountain
#

😭

#

Thanks man

#

Il try

civic bear
#

either kill them or block them. tho i think in that map only killing is possible

scarlet fulcrum
full terrace
#

Cool, I remember it wrong then, it was awhile ago.

scarlet mortar
#

but at that point you might as well just kill them

tidal sedge
#

Im struggling with jt8-3

#

Is it just a pure healingknights or there's something i can do about it

cyan plover
glass monolith
#

Don't have shit hug each other to avoid funny spread

cyan plover
#

You're not ever gonna rerun that stage after you clear it probably anyways.

full terrace
#

Why everyone is struggling with JT8-3 in 2024 😅

#

What operators do you have @tidal sedge

cyan plover
#

Also probably cuz people're still following a year old guide.

tidal sedge
#

Heaaaaaaaaaal 😆

glass monolith
#

FIRE SPREAD CUZ PLACEMENT SUUUUC

tidal sedge
burnt quail
#

Y’all wtf is going on in 9-19

lapis hornet
#

drop pillars on her

burnt quail
#

Bro how do I even time that she’s walking

#

And killing everything

vocal leaf
burnt quail
vocal leaf
#

what do you have? logos s2 is really good against her, hoederer can stall p1 with a healer, i think saria with mody can stall too

burnt quail
#

I don’t have those

#

I always get really close and then fail

#

Who should I borrow out of the 3

#

These are the only kind of built ones I have.

#

Ok I did it but an enemy walked through

#

☹️

tidal sedge
#

Be a perfectionist

#

Be gordon ram ze

burnt quail
#

I’ll do that later I have no stamina lmaooo

lapis hornet
#

you have texas just play with pillars

vocal leaf
opaque bridge
# full terrace

this is still painful for me to 3* due to the drones in the sky

burnt quail
opaque bridge
#

finally 3*d this with 2 flagbearers

full terrace
opaque bridge
#

hol up thats adverse- nvm

full terrace
#

Thats Adverse yes.

grand timber
#

I mainly play IS and I'm curious, what's your guys' strategies relating to them? Like is there a go to team you use or characters you always pick?

somber stone
#

Walter SkadiDaijoubu

cyan plover
#

white

grand timber
#

I got so confused for a second on who Walter was lmao WarLaugh

full terrace
cyan plover
grand timber
#

Ah sorry, I didn't realize there was a channel for it

grand timber
cyan plover
spark sinew
#

different Is need different strats

#

outside of drafting walter obviously

full terrace
#

What do you mean any of them 😓
Diff IS needs diff strats

#

What Hauckindu said yeah

grand timber
#

Ahhh I worded my question bad

#

Lets say IS3

full terrace
#

Texas is consistent. Pre-Wisadel era I did Texas-Kroos-Fang start all the time.

#

But nowadays you can just start with Wisadel really

spark sinew
#

ed1 you ideally want horn

somber stone
#

Why

spark sinew
#

ed2 you either block phase1 and gg/Typhon/whatever phase2 or permastall (low/high diff)
ed3 you need a couple melees, something like ptilo and some burst

spark sinew
strange fable
grand timber
#

I don't really know what any of those are 🙇‍♂️

full terrace
#

Fiammetta also works. As long as you outrange that jellyfish.

strange fable
#

ah so its d7 farming

#

Hauck can answer ur questions then hes pro

full terrace
#

But I think nowadays Wisadel can also do that.

spark sinew
#

fia just wont do enough damage would she

#

and can't redeploy for phase 2 nuking

full terrace
#

She does enough, if you have something like Scout Scope.

spark sinew
#

because needs rampup for s3 (which is off recovery)

full terrace
#

Actually the relics benefit ranged operators more than ground ones I think

#

In the context of d15 btw. Low diff she does enough without relics.

strange fable
#

fia probably cooks for d7 farming but u need to kill p1 in the spot where she wont be hit by p2 aura

spark sinew
#

even if you have absolutely insane relics i fail to see how fia does anywhere near enough

#

oh d7?

full terrace
#

To the left of blue box is a safe tile iirc

strange fable
#

ya

full terrace
#

I dont remember that map much

strange fable
#

We assume they will play low diff

#

😢

spark sinew
#

no comments there, idk how she does

spark sinew
#

can probably just wisadel spawncamp then

#

i somehow doubt that...

full terrace
#

Low diff she does enough without relics.

strange fable
#

i doubt d15 too

#

Ur stalling for too much time

spark sinew
#

even horn strat with some def shred need to delay killing phase1

#

and then redeploy for phase1+2 simultaneous nuking

#

because otherwise she can't kill fast enough

strange fable
#

if ur team comp has a highmorb permastall then the long range DPS never mattered

spark sinew
full terrace
#

I usually nuked that jellyfish before it leaves the 9 tiles in the center.

#

Ela's bombs help.

full terrace
#

But something like that Emperor something also helps

#

The physical damage one.

#

It's been awhile since I last played IS3 #is-station message, I still need to find Cathedral Puzzle 😅

#

Needa find time to Wisadel it.

grand timber
#

Ty all sm! Amiyaya

full terrace
#

Silver Fork also helps. I remember it's fairly easy to buff ranged operators in IS3, I never had problem with Ending 1 (on the way to Ending 3/4).

#

Man this was so fun back then. Every shot worth Wisadel shots but super fast thanks to the aspd relics 🤣

obsidian skiff
#

She's really broken even can solo IS3 ed4

turbid badge
#

Hauck did u m9 ela

full terrace
#

I doubt. Only her S3 is usable anyway.

opaque bridge
#

bit of trouble with this, my laneholders often aren't prepared early enough and cost a lot of time to set up

civic bear
#

please always post the screenshot with your squad already on (aka in stage)

#

a bit hard to give advice when nothing to work with

pure orchid
#

Ascalon will eat everything mid

opaque bridge
#

too lazy to login again so here's a general idea of what my squad looks like(eyjaberry was a borrow for that other CM):

full terrace
#

Hi Qyurii

opaque bridge
#

(idk why i had 2 flags but yeh i needed dp lmao)

pure orchid
#

Ela can take one lane, left or right

#

Hi flan LiskarmHi

civic bear
#

Nm right? Mountain above blue box covers all three lanes dogs

scarlet mortar
#

ela mountain anyone for CM

#

then wis points left to hold that bot lane + prep for the drone

pure orchid
#

CM will remove that golden spot for mountain

#

But ascalon can just move up and eat everything

#

Uhuh…

#

Flan have i corrupted you too much RedOmegaLul

full terrace
#

You have corrupted me

#

😆

pure orchid
#

Sad, another one turns to the darkness

civic bear
#

Usually when ppl say they struggling to open cuz lack of dp it just means they try to force all their dp to deploy vg for dp. Instead of using a moderate cost operator to handle the start so then you can deploy vanguards at ease

full terrace
#

Like Ela or Mountain or Mlynar that cost 10ish DP.

scarlet mortar
#

ok not quite mlynar

#

since he also needs to proc his skill to do anything

#

you can open with him but he's closer to 20 DP if you want to plug the lane

full terrace
#

There are plenty of scenarios where Mlynar opening is good, what do you mean "not quite"?

scarlet mortar
#

do you deploy mlynar for dog rushes

civic bear
#

He'd be as good as 20 DP guard

#

Skill takes like what 22sp?

#

Stage starts at 10dp

#

So it'd be as good as 32dp

#

The payoff is better than most op in that dp range for sure

full terrace
civic bear
#

Usually means dogrush anyway

scarlet mortar
#

WD-EX-8 is right there

civic bear
#

From what I see dogrush is what walls most player

scarlet mortar
#

dog rushes aren't that rare and you should account for them

civic bear
#

H101
7-9

#

It's the classic 30 dp to handle two lanes+

civic bear
#

Very typical map design

scarlet mortar
#

in any case mlynar can't handle the same kind of opener that ela and mountain are good for

#

so-called early rushes

#

by the time his skill is ready you wouldn't call that a rush anymore

full terrace
#

Mlynar does handle early rushes, just not typical dog rush. You wouldnt call H13-4 a rush just because they arent dogs? Keep your mind open.

opaque bridge
#

wait what do i borrow-

scarlet mortar
#

lol what

#

H13-4 is 25+ DP to begin with

#

that's past a rush

civic bear
#

H134 is not a rush if you play as they intended it

#

That is

#

You build up from left

scarlet mortar
#

by the time the slugs reach the main lanes you're shoring up 35 DP with no vg's

full terrace
# civic bear H134 is not a rush if you play as they intended it

How I see it, it is a rush. There is an immediate wave you need to respond to while having very limited DP to work with. So handle wave first then deploy and build DP with Vanguard, thats my definition of rush. I really dont understand the angle of someone calling Mlynar not an early rush handler when plenty of guides out there start a stage by deploying him.

scarlet mortar
#

perspective diff basically

full terrace
#

I mean sure in the context of dogs, he isnt. But he is still an early wave handler, there are plenty of scenarios guidemakers did that.

scarlet mortar
#

what we're saying is that there are worse openers where mlynar isn't sufficient

#

which makes it important to point out

#

the 7-9 dog rush happens at ~20 DP

#

by 25 DP it's in your blue box

#

H10-1 has two lanes to open against, the first mook approaches the blue box at ~28 DP

civic bear
#

H134 let's your vanguard do it's thing

#

Freely

#

E1 myrtle gets to use skill safely

#

With however long her skill takes

#

The stage is hard because the enemy are like walls. And the initial enemies limit your tile placement

full terrace
# civic bear E1 myrtle gets to use skill safely

Yes I understand where you are coming from, but you still need to deploy like 2 dps super quick to handle the early wave, and someone like Surtr is already 19 DP. I'm not saying it's not doable without Mlynar as early wave handler, I even tried Asca and she worked just fine, what I'm trying to say is that, Mlynar is a rush handler, just not the dog one.

sly pivot
#

isnt early wave a bunch of slugs and 2 dudes

#

🤨

#

the prespawned dudes dont count

scarlet mortar
sly pivot
#

thats like very tame for a "rush"

civic bear
#

Mlynar is a decent opener for most stage I don't disagree

#

I mean I do use him as opener in a bunch of stage lol

#

He opens h84, h124 very good

scarlet mortar
#

i did say "not quite" to begin with

full terrace
#

Actually I open H12-4 with Ela (yes I did that stage post R6S) 😂

#

H12-4 opening is brutal

scarlet mortar
#

harder stages like to do a "delayed rush", where you aren't as strictly checked for DP but the initial wave is worse than average

#

in those cases mlynar is valid to open with since he dispatches that early pesky wave

full terrace
#

Speaking of H12-4, I watched your guardknights clear btw @civic bear

sly pivot
#

h12 4 has like nothing in the opening tho 🤨 is just a bunch of sarkaz fodder

full terrace
#

Impressive clear 👍

civic bear
sly pivot
#

🤫

civic bear
#

H123 and h124 is initial dp check. Cuz when the archer comes your dp halts

#

Tho the said dp is quite a lot

full terrace
#

The archer reduces DP per shot yeah

#

And that DP limit early, kinda annoying

civic bear
#

It let's you play vg

sly pivot
#

enough time to deploy gladiia ulpian

#

👼

civic bear
#

So it doesn't really get the feel

full terrace
#

I'm waiting for Ulpian clears on H12-4 after the third.

#

Seems like fun stage to test his performance.

sly pivot
#

fun... yea u could call it fun

#

🥹

#

just a bit of statchecking

full terrace
#

Damazti be like: Corrosion damage. Ulpian be like: who cares? I'm 0 Def anyway.

sly pivot
#

sit on the field press skill

civic bear
#

Press what

#

We afk bro

sly pivot
#

bro s3 to cancel the devour

#

madge

scarlet mortar
#

+1 step

#

💢

sly pivot
#

🥹

pure orchid
regal frost
narrow pendant
pure orchid
full terrace
#

80% WarSmug 20% GoldenglowSad?

pure orchid
#

Honestly no idea lmao

full terrace
#

Hahaha

cyan plover
regal frost
#

one day I'll learn not to do F5 bosky

narrow pendant
regal frost
#

would've been fine if I didn't have -60% hp on deploy

#

once wis turrets died everything went downhill

#

tbh probably should've put wis on a safer tile

red pecan
#

THANK YOU ADVICE WITH THE BOMBS WORKED

#

IM FINALLY FREEEEEEE

pure orchid
regal frost
pure orchid
#

You and me, later

regal frost
opaque bridge
#

uncanny experience

pure orchid
#

Typical wd-ex-8 experience

#

You didnt really clear if there isnt smoke everywhere

scarlet fulcrum
#

1 more prime from cm

#

And for profile icon ig

#

I think someone managed to achieve that, nuke and smokeless

#

playing ak trigger a lot thing

foggy grove
#

i recall hyperbuffed dororat

scarlet mortar
glass monolith
pure orchid
#

Im equally astounded in both clears

wraith herald
#

why is path of life trailer music so good? and is ulpianus worth it right now? I have very low orundum and originium

glass monolith
#

He is not broken must have Wisadel powercreep tier. So up to you if you want him or save for someone in future. His S3 to "teleport" to enemy is funniest shit in AK design so far for me

lapis hornet
#

it's just worse frd smh

scarlet mortar
#

better FRD*

#

looks at IS5 SP+ relics

glass monolith
#

For "worse" frd we have clown slayer and I will build her because I am attracted to unique bullshit in game where 1/3rd of cast is "do big damage" ReedBean

peak grail
#

any idea what ending does this lead to 🤔

lapis hornet
#

nfi about is5

#

tbh don't really care which particular is happens to favor which particular units

lapis hornet
#

but I have about everyone's so I can use whoever suits ig I'm not the best to talk about if xyz is worth the pull lol

#

that said hopefully is5 comes soon and help chills with the zuo shilling

#

not that's I don't like him or anything but he's p cringe for most players smh

drowsy jewel
#

dont let help hear you

#

but i 100% agree on this, zuo isnt someone everyone should be using

pure orchid
#

Zuo does have high potential, but i dont like the idea of having to pay attention to him every 15 seconds or so

#

What a needy child

#

Regardless, i did still build him just in case im feeling extra spicy and tryhard

nocturne cove
#

How hard is ulpi event

pure orchid
#

Doesnt sound hard

glass monolith
#

I have 0 idea what Ulp event is

#

I know Pepe event, I know dumb2 event, everything else is blank RedOmegaLul

nocturne cove
#

Yeah hope I don't come running for ex-8 stage

glass monolith
#

Worse case scenario just Wisadel. If Wisadel don't work - Surtr

#

And if boss is puzzle map just Kyo

nocturne cove
#

Wisadel well yes

#

Kyo no

glass monolith
#

Respect CCs while we have any GoldenglowSad

lapis hornet
#

I mean

#

past your first 2 events nothing rly hard

#

well some events spike but last time I even remotely had to retry multiple times was like the chungus one

nocturne cove
#

I will like to disagree

lapis hornet
#

cause the -1 block with mob spam was p annoying lol

nocturne cove
#

Respectfully

lapis hornet
#

where did you struggle?

foggy grove
#

i think i run double ambusher on originl run LappKek

#

now i bet asca can just solo that lane

lapis hornet
#

I don't remember what I did it was some unholy "anything goes just clear it wdf" style

#

iirc I didn't even try to optimize

glass monolith
#

Chongus EX-8 was not fun LappDumb

sly pivot
#

wdym bb s 4 cm is the hardest event stage!

glass monolith
#

Slaps Manticore Ascalon and refuses to elaborate further

#

Took me YouTube to find out unblockable boys of BB lose health till death after touching chain once, my schizo factorio design of chains had then touching one 24/7 so I never knew I didn't had to sustain chain effect

lapis hornet
#

ya ascalon p goated in bb

#

altho I didn't use her on s4 iirc idr

#

apparently the record 4 step uses her but p sure I didn't

full terrace
#

Ah weekly reset. Time to play some IS for the Weekly Missions.

vocal leaf
#

i never knew why people were saying that s1 was even harder

pearl breach
#

Mainly because of the chain cutter mob. Its not like a hard, "hard".
More like trying to figure out the best layout to clear the stage.

Meanwhile BB S4 is just whatever. Just another dps stress stage. Nothing interesting.

regal frost
#

@tender flume borrow a ng, makes jt3 way easier

cyan plover
tender flume
regal frost
#

nightingale

#

to tank fireballs

#

if you time logos S3 right, he can slow and erase all fireballs

#

shu S3 is also good

full terrace
cyan plover
#

I meant like if they're time limited the weekly. I am afraid cuz RA's monthly thing is locked for those who didn't do it the month they were released NotLikeMiya

tender flume
#

unfortunately no nightingale

#

i’ll go try it out

regal frost
full terrace
#

The rewards are also permanent, there is no need to grab them "the month they were released"

regal frost
#

that's what they meant

#

monthly chip catalyst hungry

full terrace
#

Ah I havent touched RA this far yet, I'm clueless about that content.

#

I just farm using the day 3 method for the rewards

regal frost
#

mod block, chip catalyst, 20 blue books, 30k lmd, some exp and 2500 points

#

the raids are very easy too

full terrace
#

Module Block is prob the main appeal, maybe I should find time to do this game mode

#

Clean like baby's butt atm 😂

regal frost
#

smh

#

you've cleared more of store than me though

#

I've been so lazy recently

vivid plover
full terrace
#

Tbh with you, I dont like RA that much 🤣

#

Also I still havent found time to wrap up my IS4

full terrace
regal frost
#

cn had their last update months ago

regal frost
full terrace
#

Why? 2 accounts are fun 😂

regal frost
#

I keep forgetting which account I used sanity on or did base lol

full terrace
#

🤣

#

I have been enjoying the early chapters again

#

And the newbie struggle

regal frost
#

I just borrowed a E2 wis and afk

full terrace
#

Maybe I should start a youtube channel and document this newbie journey

regal frost
#

I forgot how annoying base is without baseslaves

full terrace
#

But then again, after the update, all newbies will start with E2

regal frost
#

yes

full terrace
regal frost
#

doing it with ascalon is pretty fun

full terrace
#

Yess but I rarely have enough Hope for Ascalon floor 1

regal frost
#

do ascalon start its fun

#

well tbh I got lucky cause after first battle I got E2 logos too

full terrace
#

Ascalon start I'm gonna struggle with drones I'm not doing that 🤣

#

But she is always my priority after Wisadel

#

Even higher prio than Logos

hazy sinew
zinc flume
nocturne flax
#

Is there one particular ending that gives you more xp for IS3? I completed all endings and is at level 58, and the leveling is really slowing down

full terrace
#

Play in higher difficulty for higher multiplier

nocturne flax
#

you mean this?

full terrace
#

Also the more steps you have taken to reach the ending, the better the point rewards.

#

For example, entering the sixth floor and entering the wonderland.

nocturne flax
#

ok, so endings with more floors are better

full terrace
nocturne flax
#

gotcha, thanks

delicate marsh
#

Guys, I heard Penance is getting a new module in global tomorrow, is it better than the first?

Does mudrock already have her second module on CN?

wide sail
#

maybe Dont play d15 unless you hate yourself crazy suggestion i know

lapis hornet
#

gains cap anyway uh was it lvl7 for is3? idr

scarlet fulcrum
#

Yea 7

lapis hornet
#

gg ig I'm not senility yet

full terrace
#

Maybe he meant sanitation.

modern copper
somber falcon
#

just deploy your frds when they're available

full terrace
#

Seriously bro, just bring Gravel and deploy her whenever she is out of cooldown.

#

And take Jaye+Yato to accompany her.

modern copper
#

thank your

#

hey wait a minute

#

how well does degen tank the fireballs

#

at e2 60

full terrace
#

😏

modern copper
full terrace
#

She tanks like.. 3~5 fireballs I guess?

#

Praise the lord if she survives.

modern copper
#

m,ayube

modern copper
mortal finch
#

no logos?

modern copper
#

i have hafka and lexalt so

mortal finch
#

if you want it simple just e2 and block fireball with s3

#

why only e1 texasSkadiDaijoubu

modern copper
mortal finch
modern copper
somber falcon
#

also what's plume even gonna do
she's not frd

#

if anything, go take yato

mortal finch
modern copper
somber falcon
#

either works

#

preferably alt

modern copper
somber falcon
#

oh you have another frd

#

nvm then, just go bring those

modern copper
somber falcon
#

texas and gravel

#

their only job is to bait flames

modern copper
mortal finch
modern copper
#

jt8 - 3

#

what did you think it was

mortal finch
modern copper
#

i thought average meant 30 seconds

#

man the arknights words make no sense anymore

mortal finch
#

do you have any better vanguard beside flmtail?

civic bear
#

Ditch the two merchants

#

It's a 2 lane map so

#

Elysium flametail or whatever

#

Then texalt gravel kills dogs

#

While also baits burns

#

Actually

#

Even better

#

Immediately deploy wisadel

#

She can kill dogs too with very lil help

#

You have like 45 dp to handle the two dog lanes

modern copper
#

What's the range of tals flaming sword whack

timid schooner
#

i use mizuki to fight mizoos

#

man i wish this is d9 run 😅

#

ye i havent do mizuki monthly smh

civic bear
#

The burn won't target wisadel directly

#

Cuz she camo

modern copper
#

Wait is this a mod thing

civic bear
#

No

#

Wisadel

opaque bridge
#

Having trouble on this map… what should I borrow

civic bear
#

Wisadel got camo if she has summon adjacent to her

pure orchid
#

Probably logos ireneburg

opaque bridge
civic bear
#

Use cars better is technically the best way

pure orchid
#

Yeah and theyre weak to arts so just grab some Logos and kill the bozos

#

Most of the threats in that event are weak to arts really

opaque bridge
#

bruh those beach buggies with the slugs killed me

civic bear
#

Make cars go like this

#

|Spawn|
| Right | Up |
| Blank | Right |

#

Then deploy any operator at top blue box

#

Facing down

#

This way cars just covers bothlane

#

Costumize car to freeze those that are hits

opaque bridge
#

fuck those 3 enemy cars 💀

foggy grove
#

it's literally permafrozen if you use cars

civic bear
#

U got wisadel chalter idk how those are a problem

foggy grove
#

or just brute force it

opaque bridge
#

ight i just had to borrow a whale's logos and it did the job

civic bear
#

Not the ignore event mechanic 😭

#

Event mechanic is so broken it makes all stage soloable

#

If not clearable without op

full terrace
#

😂😂

#

You bruteforcing is actually harder than abusing cars

opaque bridge
#

committing vehicular manslaughter against durin idk

scarlet mortar
#

isn't that stage a 0op or sth

#

yeag

earnest aspen
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Any tips on 10-17?those spawns is making me pissed off,why are they so durable for some reason

somber falcon
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use the cannon to take care of them

high warren
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So I fucked around and find out boss too fast

I can't cope it without sleep/stun?

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My healers were just memes that stage smh

spark sinew
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just block him

modern plover
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Bro is cooked already 💀

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Next run

spark sinew
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you literally have 1 blocker...

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and that's a frail vang

modern plover
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My conclusion remains the same

civic bear
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ling summons

sharp sun
dapper hedge
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Ed2 first timer moment

full terrace
# high warren So I fucked around and find out boss too fast I can't cope it without sleep/stu...

You need to throw a defender at the boss (someone tough) and then dps right from the moment he spawns. You have Reed, she is ideal. So first you throw Reed+Defender at the boss, and have Reed dps the boss while healing the defender until the boss's HP drop to around 75% and he triggers the dash. Retreat Reed and the defender immediately and throw the 2nd batch of dps+defender at the boss after the dash ended, control your dps until Reed is out of cooldown (if you dont have burst like Wisadel/Logos), then redeploy Reed+defender again after the 2nd dash. If you have Ascalon, she is a massive help.

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But that was low diff.

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Iirc it was d12 only

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But you should get the idea.

plush sigil
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do i take hoeder or plume just better for lane holding its early on the run so i only have wisadel and 3* tank cardigan +VG fang

somber stone
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Which is

full terrace
spark sinew
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hoed is the play 100%

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pluma sucks

subtle wave
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hello, i currently sitting ad 2mil LMD and not interested on expanding my unit, any guide for orundum farming ? like the base layout etc

full terrace
spark sinew
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i would say that you should have way bigger amounts to consider it but ehhh

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there are two ways to go about it

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oh we're in strat

hollow crystal
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How to strategize better

glass monolith
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Just put more force on the sphere to make it go into square hole

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Actual strategy is for people who go beyond to get lowest operator count clears, niche clears, max risk for no reward clears

hollow crystal
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how do i even able to halfly understand this

glass monolith
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Rarity abuse

vivid rain
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If game hard watch guide

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If guide hard watch wisadel

glass monolith
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If enemy is drone you need to focus - marksmen. If enemy DEF is trash - snipers. If enemy DEF is big - casters. If enemy exist - Wisadel

smoky halo
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literally how to get good at anything: spend more time doing it

somber falcon
civic bear
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knowing what enemy do is key

glass monolith
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Me who spend 60 practice plans on JT8-3, and I refuse to elaborate on how much sanity was lost to NL-EX-8 and NL-S-4 don't feel much better CeobeConfused . I just expanded the amount of built operators to solve more issues some of which still come from my incompetence

scarlet mortar
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either you learn that on your own or by asking here and having people check your strat

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it's best to learn that with early game stages without many mechanics, modern day stages tend to ask you to work with the event mechanic in one way or another

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which could make stuff feel overwhelming or confusing

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there's more specific things to learn like openers, identifying dangerous lanes/enemies etc. but you'll learn that on the go

civic bear
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If your not doing low op

glass monolith
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When I started AK account it was TW rerun, which had most basic enemy do Arts damage just because. So for me it was a sudden move from dogs which don't damage vanguard to vanguards dying in 2 hits RedOmegaLul

civic bear
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Dumbing down a stage to it's barest form helps

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You just divide enemies into threats and nonthreats. Then into weak to arts / phys. Then to is it one huge wave or a consistent smaller ones

vocal leaf
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i started with the to be continued event, which is probably the worst one, because it’s not only the fact that 1 week events have stages from different events, but also that it didn’t feature a new operator RedOmegaLul

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and didn’t event completed it, got stuck on the nl stage or the dossoles one in cm mode

glass monolith
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I started before how was it Vigilo or something. Stage 4 or 5 mudrock colossus, then all other stages are fight several bosses back to back or at once RedOmegaLul

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Stage 8 was like bro knights from MN, stupid bird from Grand Chief, and Patriot

vocal leaf
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that’s sounds more like tfn HellaHands