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#strategy
narrow pendant
scarlet mortar
practically anyone works
narrow pendant
scarlet mortar
vernal lion
trapmaster solo is kinda nice to watch
scarlet mortar
the doro solo peak
pure orchid
Doro is always peak, orian showed me the way
stiff beacon
I actually beat this stage without pinecone, I feel like I have ascended
So the thing is that kaltist can actually heal bassline fast enough so you don’t even need to bring another healer
You need to have kroos to actually consistently kill the boss’s clone in the first stage
turbid badge
am I back in y1
opaque bridge
finally
glass monolith
vernal lion
still a good stage to test 
opaque bridge
0 bot towers captured
i had to improvise a bit since my trapper strategy didn't work
scarlet mortar
ela does solo that stage
vernal lion
that one hardest stage in arknights
vs.
powercreeps
glass monolith
Hardest is very relative word. But fuck that chapter mechanic in general
Any chapter/event enforcing on me DP restrictions suck
vernal lion
kinda yea
glass monolith
#strategy message I just AH that stage on release, and when obtaining Silence Alter did the funny
vernal lion
AH being alive after the release of Gladiia
opaque bridge
it's been weeks... maybe months I have tried to 3* patriot
glass monolith
My original patriot clear was like Chalter s3 + warf s2 + uh... Shit I don't even recall if I had Shamare at that time 
scarlet fulcrum
I just dump all dmg on him back then, funny enough boss has lot check points and snail af
I remember using SA Rosa and pramanix, satisfying clear
scarlet fulcrum
Surtr doesnt exist ☕
vernal lion
yea I remember now my bad
glass monolith
Logos meanwhile breaking ZT rerun on CN
vernal lion
it's Thorns banner
scarlet fulcrum
Yea indeed, good times
vernal lion
Surtr hasn't existed yet, I think I just do like you do
drowsy jewel
my clear was sa + amiya s3 
and surtr existed by then
literal braindamage not knowing who surtr even was
glass monolith
I still don't own her. 3 years of active AKing in 1.5 months 
glass monolith
Good news, no bad susvillians.
vague perch
ohh
glass monolith
Like it?
topaz nymph
Tips for this stage guys???
foggy grove
don't die
spark sinew
don't break the left box
spark sinew
you want some aoe/multitarget for the boss, since that's basically how it was designed to be solved
lapis hornet
it's not v friendly to newbie rosters
civic bear
if u got full e2 squad ur ready 
vernal lion
Tips for this stage guys???
Bring out best big damage and aoe attack,
Most important part is staying alive because the boss will break the blocker's def to 0 soon, so if you can just switch someone else to block the boss
Beware of the spies, from the beginning and mid battle, near end got 1 of them each lane iirc (sneaky bastards)
Having Eyjaberry s3 is absolutely good due to the max hp increase buff, but again she might not heal out the corrosion damage because the corrosion stack is way too high
Finally, it's better to not deploy operator in adjacent tile to others
scarlet mortar
it's not v friendly to newbie rosters
me when the newbie speedruns to ch12 adverse and plays H12-3
lapis hornet
idk i saw him join cord this month I assumed he just rushed Wis logos and went boom.boom
if not then mlynar p good, a lot of ppl used kal on top lane iirc
ng p good to facetank
block let mlynar swing idk probs the easiest strat
well I assume you can setup wis the same way
tired rover
is it possible to beat cw-s-4 with a new account?
glass monolith
Just get Erato from CC shop and... Oh right
scarlet mortar
clueless
you can shaw left side though
so ig get a drone caster to pop balls, level your defender+medic to tank kristen and borrow a wis or sth
a maxed wis can open
tired rover
a drone caster is something I don't have
scarlet mortar
click?
tired rover
yep nothing
scarlet mortar
wait is ideal city's record restoration up
tired rover
yep
scarlet mortar
minimalist go
scarlet mortar
you can probs speedrun by yoinking welfares and borrowing
speedfarm to E2 one of the 4*s you have
then wis carry
typical
civic bear
【CW-S-4突袭 维什戴尔单核-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/c08STy8
tired rover
so get minimalist then level it then try again
scarlet mortar
【CW-S-4突袭 维什戴尔单核-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/c08STy8
expected
civic bear
Doesn't have to be drone caster
scarlet mortar
drone casters are just the most proficient at breaking balls
scarlet mortar
tired rover
Oh
wide sail
kroos is a good ball breaker too
civic bear
Ye u just spam fast hitter for balls
tired rover
So i could use kroos instead of the caster?
civic bear
Both
wide sail
i think i did click and stew
wait
kroos and stew
im pretty sure click can solo idk the cycle though
civic bear
Just use all of em tho assuming new players prob a bit under leveled here and there
scarlet mortar
not propaganda mini should shred faster though at E1, 4-hit and all
lapis hornet
wdf shilling minimalist
scarlet mortar
peak anti-hitcount afk mang
tired rover
I have stew and kroos levelled up so i might be able to try this one
scarlet mortar
it was real funny pointing him at the HS sui boss
and seeing it shed all of its fat in one loop
civic bear
You can replace Ansel with better medic
Cardigan would want a def healer to replace with tho
tired rover
I use silence, dunno if that is fine
civic bear
She good
tired rover
I'll try it later and see if can do it or not
foggy grove
are there any anti-arts tanks aside from matterhorn?
scarlet mortar
guardian defenders yh
glass monolith
Quartz has a lot of HP
foggy grove
how many good character designs with horrible kits are there in arknights already
glass monolith
When dark time of need to tank arts damage arrive, Nightingale, Big HP pool, more medics
foggy grove
quartz, vigil, spuria, insider
regal frost
crownslayer
foggy grove
clownslayer ah yes
glass monolith
And when need to tank big Physical arrive, ping me, I will DR stack on Quartz
regal frost
And when need to tank big Physical arrive, ping me, I will DR stack on Quartz
are you ok?
spark sinew
insider is fine kit wise though
foggy grove
is matterhorn really the only arts tank? lol
time to build him then
glass monolith
Early game is building stuff which benefits you.
Late game is I did a thing because one day I asked myself "why the F not" #strategy message
foggy grove
insider is fine kit wise though
well i heard somewhere insider was kinda bad, as bad as spuria
glass monolith
is matterhorn really the only arts tank? lol
time to build him then
Or anything with big HP, literally Melantha slap them
How much Arts in question need tanking and what prevents nuking them from range with snipers or with fast redeploy drop
regal frost
also wis summons are great at tanking arts damage if she doesn't kill the source instantly
foggy grove
almost anything can be solved with "just wisadel it"
im just looking to diversify my options
regal frost
do i feel bad for cliff or feel bad for quartz
regal frost
almost anything can be solved with "just wisadel it"
do you have nightingale
glass monolith
do i feel bad for cliff or feel bad for quartz
Yes
foggy grove
yeah im building her
resources are still as horrible as they are
glass monolith
Also feel bad for Outlaw, bitch dies from Arts overuse by firing gun 6 times in row
scarlet mortar
outcast*
spark sinew
do not build matterhorn
i was gonna shit on him anyway, but there's literally 0 reason to build him if you have ng
vernal lion
philae is weird op
foggy grove
wait i can reach 100 res with matterhorn and nightingale?
vernal lion
technically, yes
foggy grove
sounds kinda funny
well if i ever have the resources...
foggy grove
yeah i have some gripes with how arknights writes stat buffs
sometimes i get mixed seeing 100% and +100%
really annoying
civic bear
doesnt the game write +100% res
glass monolith
Won't 5% of ATK as lowest ceiling for damage (before DR math) kick in?
foggy grove
its more about attack buffs
civic bear
its either stat +x%
or damage to x%
both means different thing
its intentionally different
scarlet fulcrum
Yeah effectively 5% before dr
But if u really want it, bassline technically has longer time high res with NG since passive, forget mattehorn
foggy grove
he has lower stats than matterhorn but his res is indeed higher
civic bear
caster are supposed to be good tanking arts afterall
foggy grove
it doesnt matter that they have high res if they die in one tickle though
spark sinew
if they die to 10% of one attack
scarlet fulcrum
Sure 5% of million dmg maybe exist
spark sinew
idk man
foggy grove
well except for phalanx
spark sinew
phalanx don't die because of res...
scarlet fulcrum
U dont even know what are u talking
civic bear
35 res
glass monolith
Rat shield nullify anything doing less than 200 HP damage after DR btw
vague perch
the only stages left on my account to clear are H12-3&4 then H13-4
I ask myself why is H14 a lot more easier....
foggy grove
isnt this just a fancier way of saying RES +30
scarlet fulcrum
Thats dmg scale, its different
full terrace
Because Chapter 14 is a disappointment.
lapis hornet
h14 just wants you to play around its mechanics
it's not stat check more like strat check
or yt copy check 
civic bear
H142 is statcheck
lapis hornet
maybe for low rarity/promotion otherwise wis boom boom
full terrace
H14-2 can be solved with a single Wis borrow tho. It's a stat check but not like stat check stat check.
civic bear
Well yeah just hard for those underleveled
opaque otter
Is there a clear out there where Lin S2 is used in an interesting fashion?
I’m trying to think of scenarios where the at skill would actually be useful
pure orchid
birdphisto
opaque otter
glass monolith
Isn't bird do true damage which don't care for shield? Or it cares?
pure orchid
There arent much scenarios where you'd want your entire team to ignore relatively chip damage
Rat just counts any type of damage, even true
smoky halo
isnt lin shield work on all types of dmg?
pure orchid
Similarly, mudrock shield will eat true dmg like breakfast
glass monolith
Well those are single instances so my head wrap around them
nocturne cove
Similarly, mudrock shield will eat true dmg like breakfast
What did you have for breakfast
pure orchid
good thing about birdphisto is that the damage stacks in instances, not in the strength of a single poison proc
So you can burst safely
glass monolith
Poison instantly stop with death of phase 2 so... 
pure orchid
I was gonna say simply put sanctuary on rat, but then i remembered sanc only work on phys and arts for absolutely no reason
like why didnt they just make it for all dmg, really doesnt make sense to me
pure orchid
What did you have for breakfast
Actually, nothing 
I usually don't have enough time for breakfast, opting for brunch instead
My body has also already been attuned to eat 2 big meals instead of 3 slightly smaller meals
The only bad thing about today is that my brunch was at fucking 1pm, and i've been awake since 6am
I wish i can just eat poison like the rat and go on with my day
nocturne cove
Oh
I eat like 4 times a day
And whenever I wake up at night
I'm hungry
So I eat again
pure orchid
And whenever I wake up at night
Broken sleep feels so bad man
nocturne cove
I can't sound sleep
pure orchid
Same 🤝 🔥
lapis hornet
bruh I tried zuo s2 -2 lives first map 🤦
good thing it gave me a blocker for 2nd smh
full terrace
Hahahaha Chapter 2 with Lv1 Skill Level 1 squad is super fun.
I like the pressure, Courier almost died to slugs 🤣
pure orchid
Is this an e0 player in the making?
full terrace
Haha no I'm just progressing a bit to open anni on this new account 😂
Try it Qyurii, it feels like high risk cc, its fun.
pure orchid
Wake me up when hg lets us freely adjust character levels 🥱
Starting a new acc feels like too much work
proud temple
@regal frost hey
nocturne cove
I like the pressure, Courier almost died to slugs 🤣
Oh wild Mane works great against those sluggies
I tried her e0lvl1 in chapter 5 or 6
mental raven
I need a solution for cw ex 8 challange mode
lapis hornet
just copy a guide man
x2
for ex8 just point wis logos at the middle take texas/yato and kill balls not too complicated tbh
mental raven
just copy a guide man
Tried kyo strategy dude didn't worked don't have maxed out Mountain and suzuran only can borrow mylnar and use arturia instead of suzu, chongyue instead of Mountain
mental raven
for ex8 just point wis logos at the middle take texas/yato and kill balls not to...
Tried unfortunately it killed my ops faster than they can kill the BALLS
lapis hornet
mental raven
https://youtu.be/6_L6Wjgzn5k
Thx i will try it
lapis hornet
drone casters p good for balls but just replace with more units otherwise
full terrace
any braindead strat I can use
You have Wisadel, Logos, Nightingale. Stall Phase 1 and kill slowly, then burst Phase 2.
Shu, Surtr even, you have everything.
mental raven
drone casters p good for balls but just replace with more units otherwise
Is goldenglow good instead of click
glass monolith
Depends on map and skill i believe balls have taunt and people love keeping top left ball on EX-8 for gravity reasons
nocturne cove
Is goldenglow good instead of click
Ideal yws
spark sinew
gg1
wise idol
So um I do this and i still dont get credit
wise idol
I used her ability like 2-3 times it should ahve counted them
narrow pendant
I used her ability like 2-3 times it should ahve counted them
Youre using her s2 module wants s1
Also dont get module
turbid badge
the sp break might be less now with shu and friends
(yea it's better)
Do i recommend bringing a whole army to potentially stall one enemy
- Yea
she still needs some attack speed though
still using saileach and ange
idk how it'll work w/o
cuz it still clunky at times
if she can't attack and use s1 pat moves by like one mm
glass monolith
He stalled answering
lofty stag
must be some heavy leag
turbid badge
had to continue the thread
lofty stag
lag
lofty stag
they NEED to expand friendlist again
lofty stag
turbid badge
49/100
turbid badge
How
lofty stag
turbid badge
Now i can find some cool operators in peace
latent halo
if she can't attack and use s1 pat moves by like one mm
Also my qiubai do too much dmg
turbid badge
Yea
turbid badge
yeah
lofty stag
i think aspd boost would be equally beneficial
turbid badge
a bunch of lockout tbf but it's just a funny little thing esp w stainless
latent halo
You need more aspd to make lockout faster
If you can find someone that have max pot e2 ayer
Might make the loop longer
turbid badge
hey april ya got a free friend slot open
latent halo
Yea
turbid badge
will you be willing to take me in
latent halo
Do you have max pot e2 ayer
lofty stag
this is how a drowning man sees another man starve
latent halo
四月#1662
turbid badge
april ya put qiubai s1 
latent halo
Done
turbid badge
thanks dalao
latent halo
lapis hornet
np
mental raven
Cw ex 8 challange is bullshit
turbid badge
she has enough SP
she just need more ASPD
happy to see it's more stable than before though.. but wonder how beneficial will 7 more ASPD be +5 & +3 and +7 for ayer
full terrace
Cw ex 8 challange is bullshit
How is it a bs? Which part are you struggling with?
mental raven
How is it a bs? Which part are you struggling with?
Second part when every balls is glowing
young harness
Cw ex 8 challange is bullshit
Agreed
For some reason I just can’t wiš’adel or logos it
spark sinew
there's a guide that does exactly that
full terrace
Second part when every balls is glowing
Kristen receives Damage Reduction and +1 Block count for every ball she occupies. Upon entering Phase 2, she occupies all 4 balls at once, so your damage will look miniscule when the balls are all there.
spark sinew
unless you're referring to it
mental raven
Agreed
The game overall is good but the BALLS keep deleting half of my damage dealers
mental raven
there's a guide that does exactly that
Tried it
full terrace
The game overall is good but the *BALLS* keep deleting half of my damage dealers
When you destroy a ball, they explode, dealing Arts global damage.
Easiest way to cheese that, is to bring Nightingale with you.
spark sinew
The game overall is good but the *BALLS* keep deleting half of my damage dealers
well there's nothing random about it, so you can play around them exploding
mental raven
Kristen receives Damage Reduction and +1 Block count for every ball she occupies...
But how am i supposed to delete the skill and also mopping up the minions
young harness
Kristen receives Damage Reduction and +1 Block count for every ball she occupies...
They explode when they are gone, and global arts damage
full terrace
And have her activate her S3 when you are about to destroy the balls.
full terrace
They explode when they are gone, and global arts damage<:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199...
I know how it works thank you
mental raven
Easiest way to cheese that, is to bring Nightingale with you.
Tried nightingale do shit skill activated still half of the damage dealers deleted using s3 btw
young harness
My problem is with the global arts damage
full terrace
Tried nightingale do shit skill activated still half of the damage dealers delet...
Nah you prob just didnt time it correctly
Nightingale can make you survive 5 balls explosion at once plus Kristen damage plus rocket launcher damage.
spark sinew
were those half damage dealers outside of her range
full terrace
#strategy message here is an example how you should activate Nightingale skill @mental raven
mental raven
Nightingale can make you survive 5 balls explosion at once plus Kristen damage p...
How can i supposed to deal with idiotic high damage dealer minions
I'm ain't doing that stage
full terrace
You have Wisadel and Logos with you have you not
young harness
You have Wisadel and Logos with you have you not
That’s me
full terrace
I'm ain't doing that stage
I'm not talking about that stage. I'm talking about Nightingale skill activation.
mental raven
You have Wisadel and Logos with you have you not
I borrow logos and wisadel that's it i just want to do the cw ex 8 challange
mental raven
I'm not talking about that stage. I'm talking about Nightingale skill activation...
Ik ik but that stage is straight up bs
spark sinew
should've pinged me for qb!
full terrace
Well yeah okay I cant help you, you reject everything said. Maybe Hauck can help you.
Best of luck.
spark sinew
Well yeah okay I cant help you, you reject everything said. Maybe Hauck can help...
why would you do this to me wtf
it's your destiny
who are you to deny it
full terrace
Hauck.. you are my senpai. If I cant do it, only you can do it.
mental raven
Well yeah okay I cant help you, you reject everything said. Maybe Hauck can help...
Wdym i noted everything
I just stated that stage is bullshit
This is the squad
lapis hornet
no logos?
hazy sinew
high skill usage team fr
opaque bridge
How do I deal with M8-8 CM? the toxic dust is too much to handle even with three medics
foggy grove
what medics are you using
if you are fine on damage maybe borrow shu/ptilo or something
or control your burst
opaque bridge
what medics are you using
i borrowed a nightingale but S3M3
opaque bridge
have ptilo?
no
pure orchid
Lin s2 
foggy grove
ng has weaker healing since she is mostly focused on arts mitigation
opaque bridge
damage isnt the issue its just tanking + those possessed spearheads
cyan gorge
i borrowed a nightingale but S3M3
Ptilo, Shu or Execalter are better borrows
full terrace
M8-8 is those 4 Shieldguards + Rosmontis?
pure orchid
Bird
opaque bridge
that damned bird
foggy grove
shieldguard is m8-6
full terrace
Lugia Mephisto then
full terrace
damage isnt the issue its just tanking + those possessed spearheads
Texas Alter then, those spearthrowers are kinda weak.
opaque bridge
yo why the ptilo borrow on my friendlist is mod3 but sl3 
cyan gorge
Bro that's a fixed squad 💀
lapis hornet
was it
opaque bridge
i already finished that what
lapis hornet
oh it's one of those nvm
opaque bridge
cyan gorge
yo why the ptilo borrow on my friendlist is mod3 but sl3 <:ExuHyperStare:6421420...
Pretty sure you can also just borrow maxed Exec2 and bring a bunch of spare bodies so you don't leak runners
opaque bridge
oh fuck
full terrace
This is the squad
And the rest is just cleanup. I trust you can do cleanup? Redeploy Monster, deploy Yato, deploy Bagpipe, deploy Eyja.
foggy grove
oh fuck <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997>
better shu or timing doesn't need gravel
but just bring her anyway or other body to bait bone thrower when needed
lapis hornet
nah your solution better
opaque bridge
I was looking around online and noticed this one
(i didnt have the ops to so im going low end or smt)
full terrace
Jesus Christ you got Wisadel
opaque bridge
i dont have her modul 
full terrace
Nidhogg and cake gave you an example clear with Wisadel. Ask them for details, I'm sure module is not that big of a deal for this stage.
opaque bridge
so i just use a single nuke instead of two
spark sinew
you're lucky fib didn't see it
lapis hornet
spark sinew
he would've made you borrow exalter
lapis hornet
i don't have perf well built so ng s2 should be worse
my shu 90 mod3 idk if makes a dif
no timing needed
the less units on the ground the lower the healing pressure
proven garnet
Who should I use on the robots in CW-EX-6-CM
full terrace
What is EX-6 again 😅
proven garnet
Bots do extra damage so having blaze hang out ain’t it
I could nuke with wis but I’m still not solid on when to do that
opaque bridge
you just camp the box on the right side with 2 DPS on high ground with a laneholder I think
proven garnet
And anyway my wis ain’t fully built
full terrace
Weird I dont remember EX-6 being special, lemme go check brb.
proven garnet
you just camp the box on the right side with 2 DPS on high ground with a lanehol...
Worth a shot ig
opaque bridge
yeah this was how I cleared it
opaque bridge
one of the robots nearly walked in on my bottom lane but wis nuked it
proven garnet
I can try something like that
I basically loaded up with laneholders and healers for the normal mode
And had it so they only attacked the bots when they moved
full terrace
Ah this stage I remember now. The key is to keep the 2 pusher robots alive until they walk away by themselves
When they walk away, you push the Up/Down button
To make the ball fall back to its original position
The balls act as roadblocks.
opaque bridge
... or you can just ignore those and burst the enemies down before they completely walk into the blue box...
proven garnet
... or you can just ignore those and burst the enemies down before they complete...
Not quite cracked enough for that I’m afraid
proven garnet
To make the ball fall back to its original position
so when bottom bot leaves I tilt up and vice versa?
full terrace
Yeh
proven garnet
Ok
full terrace
Also you can
Use the balls to kill the enemies
By letting them walk a bit, then use the balls to hit them
proven garnet
Ye
zinc flume
@pure orchid are you up for continuing icebreaker games
full terrace
<@364331538126602240> are you up for continuing icebreaker games
It's only a few hours left until the event ends, if you badly need a partner I can help you
But I cant do football and bastion defense, they are too time consuming
zinc flume
sure, i'm speedrunning cause I left it for last, wasted too much time grinding commission in RA2
full terrace
Sure, gimme your Room ID
zinc flume
ight, lemme imma finish current game first
Room ID [adngbg7a86g3d3], Dr. Kagareboshi#8160 invites you to a random match of Advanced difficulty
proven garnet
yeah this was how I cleared it
managed to get through it with a similar solution, thanks
zinc flume
when my exalt died because I forgot to activate his skill I went
zinc flume
@full terrace aight thanks, I'll do bastion and soccer now
full terrace
Alrite
vague perch
my units die when the 3 sometimes on 4th clone spawn
this the squad i use in that stage
i think my main problem is civilight's s3 timing
snce i dont have nightingale or skadi alter
still dies in the 3rd or 4th boss spawn
full terrace
You dont need that Civi timing nor Nightingale. Eyjaberry would help you with the elemental damage. Shu's Sanctuary would give everyone standing on her ricefield 10% Damage Reduction. 15% if you have her moduled.
#strategy message copy this
full terrace
Ya borrow Eyjaberry. Damazti does Corrosion Damage, this type of Elemental Damage reduces the target's Defense. Eventually, all your operators blocking her will have 0 Defense.
Eyjaberry will help slow down this process a lot, and Shu's Sanctuary gives Damage Reduction, so even with 0 Defense your operators will still be quite tough.
full terrace
When entering the 2nd Phase, make sure to deploy a sacrifice for Damazti.
She demands the blood of a virgin, give her one.
vague perch
When entering the 2nd Phase, make sure to deploy a sacrifice for Damazti.
i sacrifice my gravel
spark sinew
fairly sure harold would work as a sacrifice though
full terrace
i sacrifice my gravel
That works.
hexed fable
are there any updated guides for cw-s-4 with walter and logos
opaque bridge
ok uh so i have a little problem with 10-16
mudmud keeps dying on the left
ah shit now the problem is the right lol
nvm
full terrace
are there any updated guides for cw-s-4 with walter and logos
If you wanna cheese it using Wisadel and Logos, borrow a Nightingale and copy this #strategy message
cyan gorge
ok uh so i have a little problem with 10-16
There's an Ifrit lane
crude bay
Wait, S-4xs Cm for lone trail is just increased debuff near those balls?
Which means i can just reuse my strat on the non-CM one?
opaque bridge
finally beat the MANfred
cyan gorge
Now do it on adverse
crude bay
finally beat the MANfred
Nice
Also, lot of dead ops there
crude bay
Now do it on adverse <:DocSmile:1213036172524126240>
Easy with AH, just let Skadi duel him
||And let Gladiaa and Specter get pounded by the artillery 
||
opaque bridge
<:DocSmile:1213036172524126240> Nice
Also, lot of dead ops there
the cannon retargetted at the last second
crude bay
Preferrably the guard Specter tho so it'll lock onto her
crude bay
the cannon retargetted at the last second <:HellaKek:735650408340521020>
I feel that
scarlet mortar
Which means i can just reuse my strat on the non-CM one?
more or less
crude bay
more or less
Great
scarlet mortar
there's also the stat buff though
crude bay
The balls damage won't one shot me right?
scarlet mortar
so we can't tell you if everything will be as smooth
crude bay
Because they almost one shot most of my ops
crude bay
just break the balls
Ah yes, break all 4 at once
full terrace
Wait, S-4xs Cm for lone trail is just increased debuff near those balls?
What do you mean increased debuff? There is no increased debuff.
crude bay
What do you mean increased debuff? There is no increased debuff.
The balls aspd debuff is amplified in CM
That's what i meant
full terrace
Nah I dont think so, they just got +30% stats bonus, a little tougher.
full terrace
The balls damage won't one shot me right? <:Bnuuy:926515462722973746>
You breaking them one by one they wont one shot.
Breaking 4~5 at once they do one shot unless you run Nightingale.
full terrace
The explosion is global Arts damage.
somber falcon
the aspd can be countered by gravity, the annoying part is the DR
full terrace
Ah thats what they meant okay.
crude bay
the aspd can be countered by gravity, the annoying part is the DR
I'll just push them away anyway
Since this is what the setup for the stage looks
For the boss killing that is
Left one has Weedy doing her job
pure orchid
<@364331538126602240> are you up for continuing icebreaker games
Ah sorry i wont be home for a good 6 hours
full terrace
When you got home, you needa help them with football and bastion defense quick, before the event ends 🤣
zinc flume
Ah sorry i wont be home for a good 6 hours
Don't worry i'm already done with everything
pure orchid
Congrats 
zinc flume
Arfl helped me speedrun
pure orchid
W helper
zinc flume
Never leave your events for the last moment people
pure orchid
So tru, thats why i finish my events asap so i can complain about having no content after instead
regal briar
Ulpianus < Zuo Le...
PROOF ME WRONG... YOU WONT!!!!!
pure orchid
Im not even disagreeing so 
nocturne cove
Ulpianus < Zuo Le...
PROOF ME WRONG... YOU WONT!!!!!
How can we prove you wrong when what you are saying is correct
mental raven
Ok anyone can hand hold me through cw ex 8 challange it's bs
full terrace
Stop saying it's bs. It is not, it's your skill issue just admit it. And I ran this #strategy message with half your squad, exactly the units you posted, you have no excuse.
glass monolith
Slap phase 1. Kill mobs. Kill some balls. Kill phase 2
Also some people don't kill top left ball because it is convenient for redirecting enemies
Or do that cursed Lunacub strat
full terrace
Idk what the guy's problem is, been calling it bs countless times, yet reject every advice given.
glass monolith
glass monolith
Idk what the guy's problem is, been calling it bs countless times, yet reject ev...
Jumping head first into wall can be good stress relief based on irl situation
full terrace
It's a fun stage.
vague perch
i hope its easier than h12-3
full terrace
Tbh if you can clear H12-3, you can clear that one too. The difficulty is in the mechanics mostly.
It's definitely harder than H12-3.
full terrace
Best of luck.
cinder cliff
hello i have a problem with lone trail stage cw 5 any team recomendation for that stage for a new player?
cinder cliff
this 1
alredy try over 12 time with diferent vid same but im keep getting kill =='
my main problem is the big guys and the missils = ='
pure orchid
Missiles? I dont recall there being any rocket robots that early
This stage is much easier if you put the gravity down
cinder cliff
those missiles that got to use a 3 blk
pure orchid
Thats car, not missile
cinder cliff
ye i have 1 operator on the down switch all the time
pure orchid
Kroos will do wonders here simply because of fast atk spd
cinder cliff
scarlet mortar
you don't need anyone on the down button tbh
cinder cliff
this is the team that i was usuing
scarlet mortar
just kill all the defenders
pure orchid
You have 1 singular ranged tile dps
cinder cliff
like who ?
scarlet mortar
who do you have
pure orchid
I think its better to approach this problem by learning general team building first
4 defenders is excessive, 3 medics too
cinder cliff
i tryed amiya but didnt work x.x
scarlet mortar
that's only one caster
glass monolith
this 1
#strategy message my clear on original guy helping someone other guy.
scarlet mortar
3 medics is overkill yh
glass monolith
Vendela is medicn't
pure orchid
Thats also another problem lol
glass monolith
And I still missing her
scarlet mortar
E1 vendela is... some damage ig
cinder cliff
suffer that im adict now >.>
ok wat about this 1 1 sec that i cant photo all cuz is my other phone the game xd
glass monolith
Lava, Steward could add more arts damage if leveled. Lvl 1 vanilla won't do much
cinder cliff
civic bear
Slap logos instead of vendela
scarlet mortar
click would be useful against defenders
cinder cliff
then i got to farm the exp cuz right now im dying alot holy x.x
scarlet mortar
click + kroos might be enough for them
hm nvm, click + orchid
since there're dogs
scarlet mortar
her
cinder cliff
bruh i guess i got to read all the files again
cinder cliff
ok so im taking out same a fang and vanilla any recomendation?
maybe gavial same out?
pure orchid
Vanilla can go yeah
cinder cliff
i left gummy spot and beagle to defend me took out a noir and vendela
pure orchid
Still easier to follow 2 of each class rule early on, including 2 vg
cinder cliff
then im put back fang
ok vanguard i have lappand as main
i tryed with doberman
might lvl up midnight?
remote perch
Why bother with midnight when you have Quibai lol
glass monolith
Won't S2 Chen divide most of left side in 2?
opaque bridge
what's the general plan for this map?
cinder cliff
actully i didnt see quibai have that range
opaque bridge
the annoying seeds keep hitting me
cinder cliff
god dam im blind
scarlet mortar
what's the general plan for this map?
make sure the instigators are killed, then prep defenders to tank the seeds in mid lane
opaque bridge
wait do I break any boxes at the start or keep them?
scarlet mortar
oh wait that's just normal mode
pure orchid
what's the general plan for this map?
You can borrow logos s1 or lin something and sleep if u want
scarlet mortar
you don't have to deal with bot right instigators
opaque bridge
I just got lin lol
scarlet mortar
a maxed lin should no-sell the seeds
remote perch
Just keep the box on middle left to funnel enemies
Then destroy the rest
opaque bridge
You can borrow logos s1 or lin something and sleep if u want
so main job is to kill the instigators first eh
i can do that
but the civilians at the start and those uh floating stuff
pure orchid
No idea, ive never even noticed the instigators
scarlet mortar
in adverse they become a massive pain
pure orchid
Huh. Maybe having chalter spawncamp them rotted my brain a bit
scarlet mortar
since spies go down this tiny ass pocket
and there's an instigator down there too
scarlet mortar
Huh. Maybe having chalter spawncamp them rotted my brain a bit
i mean yh the point is that you need to camp them
pure orchid
Oh yeah adverse has 2 instigator spot
scarlet mortar
if you can't you're much more likely to leak
cinder cliff
ok i will try again if i die welp i guess time to go to bed again xd
pure orchid
Its a good thing i just naturally like to spawn camp everything on blind clear
opaque bridge
ok i may have to need a better tank
vague perch
its been how many hours... h12-4 goodness why...
glass monolith
Because
As if entire chapter 12 didn't convince you how dog shit it feels to start with 20 DP cap when losing/retreating operator might make then undeployable for rest of map
I hope you don't kill both boxes right away so top part enemies get stuck in top most lane instead split in 2 as if holding 3 lanes was not enough trouble
civic bear
reveal all the civs so you get enough dp cap so you can redeploy ops. ideally you dont redeploy them too much tho unless they're cheap
you can block two bottom clones with just a blocker on the right there
then another blocker for top . avoid adjacent placement should be smooth sailing
mental raven
Idk what the guy's problem is, been calling it bs countless times, yet reject ev...
Didn't saw the video you sent and I appreciate it, no I do noted all of the advice it's just my ops is weak to deal with the
BALLS
mental raven
of your latest attempt
Can't because i was in school
high warren
Just got wrecked by this guy on my first attempt
Reached 2nd phase but couldn't damage and time ran out
(Was deep investigation mode)
What are triggers to reach this ending + ideal units that can cope this stage
forest lagoon
Just got wrecked by this guy on my first attempt <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798...
how to trigger :
- go to scout node and take routewaver net
- next floor will always got prophecy on the bottom node, go there and take boundless gift
- clear f5 boss
good unit to take:
- degenbrecher to burst
- heidi to buff degen or skalter but harder timing
- ela to fragile and dmg
- shu for teleport shenanigan
setup ur team on left because this is gardener
high warren
how to trigger :
- go to scout node and take routewaver net
- next floor will al...
Somehow I got that boss on f5 in deep investigation was it because of it being deep investigation?
Idh degen should I go with her as starter or walter
forest lagoon
i think thats because deep investigation
high warren
If I clear there will it count for medal that need me to clear two ending?
forest lagoon
walter can be used to hold lane also do some dmg
but degen is almost mandatory for this boss
forest lagoon
If I clear there will it count for medal that need me to clear two ending?
idk tbh
i never bothered to clear deep investigation lmao
high warren
Is3 one is weird i don't understand it yet
Took me 5th floor to clear investigation mission
forest lagoon
the reward is small so i never really do it
monthly expedition is a differen story
narrow pendant
Just got wrecked by this guy on my first attempt <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798...
I mean, thats a very very bad roster againt him
pure orchid
Squad is just short for Squidward
I rest my case
narrow pendant
If I clear there will it count for medal that need me to clear two ending?
No
Need normal run, not investigation
narrow pendant
Squad is just short for Squidward
I rest my case
💀
pure orchid
narrow pendant
<:WarSmug:663458232429314101>
Ily but i wanna beat your ass
pure orchid
You can do that later 
languid mulch
How 2 3-5?
jade rose
wisadel
jade rose
I deleted that account
proud temple
gaslighting pro max
opaque bridge
Having trouble with damatzi phase 2.... it nuked my whole dps line on the right
sly drift
Use nightingale or Ejya healer.
civic bear
dont put units adjacent to each other
especially the ranged one
you prob die because of that
that alone should be enough for this stage. damazti doesnt proc corossion fast enough in non h stage
timid schooner
how its feel when rematch ex-8 cm
why triple cost defenders lmao
and nope wont rematch s-4 cm i hate that stage
analog relic
pure orchid
Insane AI even got the Skalter nickname right at least
this advice is hot trash tho lol
scarlet mortar
ebenholz for beginners 🔥
worldly kestrel
Is this real chat
They are cooking
Ling as a starter is like asking a coughing baby to explain to me how a hydrogen bomb works
foggy grove
ling as starter is fine tho
scarlet mortar
if you want to live off of youtube forever maybe
wise idol
Pain map lol
pearl breach
Ling itself is good as a standalone operator.
However, ling starter is bad.
You wont learn anything from stacking a bunch of dragons.
worldly kestrel
Ling itself is good as a standalone operator.
However, ling starter is bad.
You ...
Well I don't think early game teaches you anything relevant
sly drift
Ling starter is good bruh. Ain't no way ppl said Ling starter is bad
worldly kestrel
Endgame is weirdly a lot simpler
pearl breach
This is why ling is bad. You didnt even consider the map layout and abuse it to your advantage.
Also, what endgame you are referring here?
worldly kestrel
This is why ling is bad. You didnt even consider the map layout and abuse it to ...
Bro that's all modern meta operators
worldly kestrel
Also, what endgame you are referring here?
Lvl 90 P6 operators Vs any content
ANY
Content
pearl breach
Huh?
sly drift
Using Ling doesn't mean you have to solo the stage
You can still use anyone good on said map
Whatever mechanic the map has
worldly kestrel
Using Ling doesn't mean you have to solo the stage <:LappDumb:596474463118163968...
This tbh
People still treat arknights like it's actually in any way or form hard
pearl breach
Ling is so useless.
worldly kestrel
If you as a player pull for meta units every few months the game turns into a mere Waifu collector
pearl breach
What kind of strategy you learn from using her?
worldly kestrel
What kind of strategy you learn from using her?
Ask that about Mylnar or walter
Or mudrock
Or heck eya
Hehe mudrock SPIN
Even silverash was pretty much a cheat code back on release
pearl breach
Trust me. I watch too many newbie rely heavily on ling starter. They will never ended up good
worldly kestrel
Trust me. I watch too many newbie rely heavily on ling starter. They will never ...
"something good"
pearl breach
At least for mylnar you need to know his timing. Ever see mylnar opener on IS?
worldly kestrel
Bro the braincells that differentiate a Arknights player from a chimpanzee isn't far away
worldly kestrel
At least for mylnar you need to know his timing. Ever see mylnar opener on IS?
Bro he kills every boss solo till like.... Chapter 7
narrow pendant
Bro the braincells that differentiate a Arknights player from a chimpanzee isn't...
Yea, youre being the very point of that apparently
pearl breach
Story mode have low ceiling. Tf your point?
worldly kestrel
Yea, youre being the very point of that apparently<:DocSmile:1213036172524126240...
I am a proud chimp
But this chimp thinks it's a human
worldly kestrel
Story mode have low ceiling. Tf your point?
My point is there is no operator that "teaches" you something
Knowing the limits of a operators and what they can do and then abuse that is the very thing this game is about
pearl breach
My point is there is no operator that "teaches" you something
Thats what a ling player would say
worldly kestrel
I don't even own ling
And I couldn't care less about that doodoo operator
But saying certain operators make certain players less "intelligent??" Is like braindead
pearl breach
Ling is brainded. Wdym?
worldly kestrel
Arknights has barely any skill ceiling to begin with
pearl breach
Stop playing story mode then
worldly kestrel
If you don't play Arknights exclusively with 3 and 4 stars I don't think any player can talk about "difficulty"
worldly kestrel
Stop playing story mode then
Give me one piece of content that meta doesn't just steamroll no strategy required
sly drift
Trust me. I watch too many newbie rely heavily on ling starter. They will never ...
Elaborate
narrow patrol
<:LappDumb:596474463118163968>
If you have his s3 at e2 anyway
worldly kestrel
Elaborate
Yume treats Arknights like it's a college degree
And playing low end character as Study
pearl breach
You treat ling like its a good ops
worldly kestrel
You treat ling like its a good ops
Show me your operators
If I see Walter in there your option is instantly invalid
sly drift
Aren't we talking about Ling make early game easier. Chat confuse me
worldly kestrel
Aren't we talking about Ling make early game easier. Chat confuse me <:Bnuuy:926...
Yes it makes early game grind easier. Use her if you have her
Yume thinks if you use Ling it makes you mentally inferior to him
And therefore a bad player
pearl breach
Do you need ling to clear early content?
worldly kestrel
Yume show me your Walter and then tell me how you are a "smart" player
worldly kestrel
Do you need ling to clear early content?
You want him to put in the same resources he could put into ling into 3 star operators?
Anyways pull for this woman.
scarlet mortar
yguys do realize you need an E2 op to borrow E2 ling anw right
worldly kestrel
She is hot and cute
opaque bridge
dont put units adjacent to each other
how do i deal with the clones or those guys on the left while i focus right
worldly kestrel
~~yguys do realize you need an E2 op to borrow E2 ling anw right~~
E2 Amiya or E2 4 star is the quickest way to get into that I presume.
worldly kestrel
E2 amiya is a dumbest thing to do
You literally need her E2 to do certain content so meh
sly drift
If your purpose is to just borrow Ling. Maybe e2 myrtle first lol
worldly kestrel
if not cuora or sth
Yeah Cuora was my guess as well
worldly kestrel
If your purpose is to just borrow Ling. Maybe e2 myrtle first lol
Very valid as well
sly drift
how do i deal with the clones or those guys on the left while i focus right
Is it not possible to defend both lane. What's ur roster
worldly kestrel
You can ignore jt-8 qnd ch-14 and still progress the game
Bro thinks accounts are bricked after doing that 😂
pearl breach
Thats why stop acting like you experience the game fully just because you just played a couple days
pearl breach
Bro thinks accounts are bricked after doing that 😂
The context is first E2 ops. You dumb or smth?
worldly kestrel
The context is first E2 ops. You dumb or smth?
Yes and Amiya to me makes sense weirdly but meh. Cuora and Myrtle sounds better for ling
worldly kestrel
Thats why stop acting like you experience the game fully just because you just p...
Bro my account unironically better then yours
opaque bridge
Is it not possible to defend both lane. What's ur roster
i think I may have made a mistake by pooling everything on the right side of the map…
also check my old msgs for roster pic im in a car rn
solid aurora
Fuck is going on in here
pearl breach
E2 amiya and ling.
Why this never go away even after 4 years
Then E2 myrtle for ling
worldly kestrel
Fuck is going on in here
Battle of the chimps
This chimp is telling me it's not a chimp
Low iq Vs low iq
pearl breach
Why insulting someone when you cant even prove your point?
worldly kestrel
One aware the other not
worldly kestrel
Why insulting someone when you cant even prove your point?
Bro you said ling makes players bad at the game 😭
solid aurora
U2 need to take this to DMs or somewhere else at this point
pearl breach
Dont bent my words
worldly kestrel
U2 need to take this to DMs or somewhere else at this point
Make him 😭
worldly kestrel
Yume still bad anyways.
worldly kestrel
sly drift
also check my old msgs for roster pic im in a car rn
I mean what team u use on this particular map. If ure still struggling. Take screenshot again and post it here.
civic bear
how do i deal with the clones or those guys on the left while i focus right
4 blockers. 2 right 2 left of the middle boxes
Technically one is enough on the left side
I'd assume you broke boxes early cuz of using wisadel
On the middle
So you'd prob want 4 blockers
That's all tho. Just medic cover left and right and should be enough idk what else u struggling with 
Boss has 1 skill that targets global (single) using all clones.
2nd skill (phase 2) summon drones on everyone and deal aoe arts dmg (cross) on said targets, thus why you don't want to put your squishy units adjacent to each other's (basicly ranged units)
Aside from that it's typical chapter 12 mechanic
nocturne cove
@next wigeon he raged on you instead lmao
narrow pendant
<@960876823024123946> he raged on you instead lmao
No i did not
On you as well
Bozo
maiden hound
Can I just Wisnuke Patriot and sleep?
pearl breach
What patriot? We have three of them?
pearl breach
IS5 patriot 
narrow pendant
Theres 2
maiden hound
What patriot? We have three of them?
7-18 guy
sly drift
Can I just Wisnuke Patriot and sleep?
Patriot is a joke now. U can nuke him using Thypon, Ray, Logos, etc
New ops are unreasonably broken lately
Ceobe works too iirc
maiden hound
only m2mod2 
sly drift
It's kinda surprise me that ones still can't do early stages even with Wis built already
maiden hound
It's kinda surprise me that ones still can't do early stages even with Wis built...
down on sanity, just prelim check
sly drift
I thought Wisadel is the biggest mistake Arknights made. But maybe it's not too bad
pearl breach
I feel like bro trying to cook smth. Rather than clearing the stage.
sly drift
What cook can possibly be made after asking "is this can be Wisnuke?"
maiden hound
instant noodels strait into mouth
sly drift
Exactly
maiden hound
if wisadel is used: 0
cyan gorge
Can't you just Tex + Yato
celest bluff
Only specialist
cyan gorge
I'm waiting for her second mod 
nocturne cove
Dang she is broken!??
scarlet mortar
7-18 is a farm map
narrow pendant
I'm waiting for her second mod <:RosChill:851187727017312276>
The immortality mod? Sounds like it could be used for some cooking
scarlet mortar
at least say 7-18 CM
sly drift
How long until we can solo H13-4 chat 
scarlet mortar
when ling 2.0
sly drift
Wouldn't surprise if 2026 they will release Ling but the dragon have wisadel power.
Shit is wild lately
narrow pendant
New sui sibling?
Nuh-uh, Nian Alter
nocturne cove
Please no
narrow pendant
Its gonna be a healer or a specialist anyway
cyan gorge
The immortality mod? Sounds like it could be used for some cooking
I'm cooking s1m3 to prep the psuedo immort stall tech
narrow pendant
Im calling it
narrow pendant
I'm cooking s1m3 to prep the psuedo immort stall tech
Insane
cyan gorge
Soon
cyan gorge
Who says I can't do both 
opaque bridge
I'd assume you broke boxes early cuz of using wisadel
nah my wis didn’t break boxes yet
i just use a yato borrow to clear the bottom box
main problem seems to be multitasking while holding both left and right as phase two hits
man I sure love clones
cyan gorge
You can 2 op right side with a good medic defender and aoe dps
next wigeon
Well I don't think early game teaches you anything relevant
You sure about this? We at #help get many inquiries for help because Arknights players can't do the basics of said game
Basics taught at the fckin start of the game
I sometimes question their reading abilities tbh
I also question your definition of endgame
Some people aren't whales or lucky yknow
next wigeon
People still treat arknights like it's actually in any way or form hard
Have you done High Risk CC, DoS, RA Danger Mode or High Difficulty IS?
Those are quite difficult
Anyways I do kinda agree with some of your points while some of them are downright Questionable
glass monolith
I thought Wisadel is the biggest mistake Arknights made. But maybe it's not too ...
We have enough no brain delete buttons. Ines on other hand is one of the kind bullshit
next wigeon
those all you dont need to do anyway
But the free mats are too good to pass up tho
Cri
civic bear
you dont need to do those for the said mats tho. other than dos which was a mistake on their end
since future "dos" like event you can use buff for max reward
so the difficulty is toned down even further
next wigeon
you dont need to do those for the said mats tho. other than dos which was a mist...
Actually yeah now that I think about it IS3 max score multiplier is D7 while IS4 is D10
civic bear
i mean even if its dsmth you still can just spam lower diff
still gives level eitherway
sly drift
since future "dos" like event you can use buff for max reward
You mean amgry Rosmontis event?
next wigeon
still gives level eitherway
But its slower
-# I dont wanna do IS that much ugh
Procrastinating on completing IS rn
civic bear
well its arguable if its slower or not, some people might prefer to speedrun low diff
lapis hornet
wdf not liking IS don't let help know you're not a proper ak player
smoky halo
those all you dont need to do anyway
tbf he said endgame is max pot max lv ops vs "any content" and those are considered content
next wigeon
wdf not liking IS don't let help know you're not a proper ak player
I do like IS, but not in the way that lives and breathes IS like what Fib has become
Fib is glued to IS until his Burn out kicks in
sly drift
wdf not liking IS don't let help know you're not a proper ak player
Does playing IS only to get the rewards considered proper player
smoky halo
Fib is glued to IS until his Burn out kicks in
???
next wigeon
i mean cc hasnt ran in a while 🥹
The other stuff doesn't get your adrenaline goin and stimulate your masochistic tendencies
next wigeon
i mean cc hasnt ran in a while 🥹
Probably wait after IS5 2nd expansion
Im kinda curious what Theme they gonna do
spare mason
My Squad
full terrace
Good start
celest horizon
Well I don't think early game teaches you anything relevant
absolutely not. Early game teaches important concepts that carry over to late game. It's just that strong operators are able to brute force without using these mecahnics. Come play low rarity runs and you'll learn the pain of not having a good foundation
People who ask for help don't have a good grasp on these early game concepts, that's why need help despite strong operators
full terrace
They are returning player iirc
I see. But it's still a good start.
lofty stag
absolutely not. Early game teaches important concepts that carry over to late ga...
so true random mod 
tiny talon
rlly gud
spare mason
Or more like casual player
I play to level up everyone
tiny talon
I play to level up everyone
defo a casual
prob check other ytbers
kyo aint the only one
spare mason
I did
tiny talon
huh
next wigeon
I play to level up everyone
You can do Eckogen's
spare mason
Kyo, Willizer, Ecko, Leon
civic bear
7-9 is the dogrush map