strategy

[lapis hornet]

[regal frost]

cause people complain otherwise

kyo made a post cause people considered e2 4* rare or something

[unkempt lintel]

oh yeh that lmao

[dapper hedge]

lol videoknights are so weird kekw

[regal frost]

weird is a understatement

some people raise 3 and 4s to copy a vid when they have like 20 6 E2

[analog ibex]

any strategy for 12-20?

[full terrace]

Lol where can I see this, Suraj?

The full story

[regal frost]

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxDBrtbmwEwxXs30XTlQ6qpASFav3XuWm8?si=h6FWX2CdFeq0vL2C

[full terrace]

But ngl people are weird and quick to point finger. Kyo had to make that one rage video about retreat and redeploy on Crownslayer stage lol

[sullen rover]

he uses an e2 myrtle in the video

[regal frost]

if people can't copy 1:1 they get annoyed

[sullen rover]

e2 myrtle does jackshit

its not even an e2 dps or sth that might matter

[narrow pendant]

Its just stupid people
Guudes arent made to copy them 1:1

[regal frost]

people don't understand the basics so

[full terrace]

Yeah exactly. I love watching low-end clears to understand the mechanics, and then I play by myself. They made guide to highlight the mechanics in the first place, not to be copied 100%.

[civic bear]

some e2 4* are hard to find replacement of to be fair

utage and ethan is an example

[regal frost]

Ethan is free though

[full terrace]

I use Asca for Ethan replacement, and Surtr for Utage, they work perfectly fine for me.

[regal frost]

and he's there for cc usually

[civic bear]

those are both 6*

gl pulling for them tho

in guide context theyre hard

[regal frost]

can use mousse instead of utage

[full terrace]

But I agree some of the 4 Stars are hard to substitute

[civic bear]

mousse is not evne close to utage

utage is helidrop arts dmg

closest thing is surtr

[regal frost]

can still helidrop mousse

[full terrace]

Like Totter ah..

[civic bear]

mousse dmg is 🤏

[regal frost]

use silence drone to heal her

[civic bear]

prime example was ccb1

[full terrace]

Indigo in the last cc also urmph

[civic bear]

the problem is theres a lot of cases where theres only one remaining deploy slot

mousse dealing half utage dmg

while needing support

is p bad

mousse has like barely 1k dps on s1

[void terrace]

Damn how do you even use theresa. Ive been running weird comps so long that i barely see the need for her

Like the only thing i see now is her s2 basically is perfectly synced with goldenglow

[full terrace]

You use her like how you use Skalter. Just that, the inspiration is only noticeable when she uses her skill.

[cinder pike]

but mousse s1 is really there for stall

[full terrace]

She heals more than buff

[cinder pike]

but it is kinda cope with easier sources of -attack like virtuosa

[void terrace]

I mean my core team is the nian sibilings plus ptilo to super battery anyone

The ammount of passive buffs from shus tallent is already stupid

[cinder pike]

the nian sibilings are pretty premium

[void terrace]

True

[full terrace]

Oh Ancool is that guy who made the no vanguards anni vids. I watched a few of them but never realize it's his channel. 😂

[delicate flare]

Whos amcool

[civic bear]

who tf is that

[crisp bolt]

Never heard of him

[narrow pendant]

Have you heard of the popular ytber ancool making videos on the hit game arknights?

[full terrace]

🤣

[cold oriole]

Def ignore is better than dmg boost against IS bosses right? Assuming the character doesn’t make use of def ignore themselves

[narrow pendant]

Well, when u have 5k def, -def% will habe more impct

[dark violet]

map really went, surprise motherfucker

[narrow pendant]

I see degen placement

[dark violet]

I'm so dead, time to figure out a better strategy

[dapper hedge]

Wheres your turret hitter

[dark violet]

wait uh

does the boss never end?

lol

[jaunty elm]

you need to hit the turret to activate them which push back the beam

[dark violet]

ah, nevermind, it ended

had powered 3 turrets though

was waiting to trigger multiple at once so my ops didn't just instantly die

[jaunty elm]

yea you need to keep activating the thing

[worthy mason]

how do you even do H14-1? i cant put a healer for top lane cuz of sudarams

[smoky laurel]

place the healer first then the ground operator

[dark violet]

you just place blocks where they tell you

[smoky laurel]

idk i haven't played h14 stages yet

[dark violet]

then you can bottleneck easily

also push the altar away to the center right

[dapper hedge]

Don't even need to push the altar

[worthy mason]

sudaram is ranged, and there are only 2 usable melee tiles up there

[dapper hedge]

If you can kill the first two mobs coming from left

[dark violet]

I feel like you're talking about a different map

H14-1 is pretty simple and has no immediate pressure

[worthy mason]

the rush tho...

i can place jesster for top left so shield dudes get stormed

do i let storm go from left so its smaller and i have more tiles to work with, or go whole bottom

[dapper hedge]

Ye that's what I mean

If you block left ASAP then the storm just gonna go middle and gets bigger

[worthy mason]

yea but if i do bigger storm then barely any melee tiles

[dark violet]

[worthy mason]

chimeras got 25k hp and 1200 def, degen cant 1 cycle

[dark violet]

I used skadi for it

[stuck ermine]

hard to deal with chimera if they eat red tile

[dark violet]

dorothy s3

[dapper hedge]

There's an ifrit tile

Blocking left late like this make it you don't have to deal with the storms & beacon at all

[unkempt lintel]

any eyjaberry s1m3 haver i can add rq???

[full terrace]

H14-1 make good use of the Originium Pollution. Deploy a Defender just barely outside the Pollution range, and let it damage the enemies for you. #strategy message

[hollow nymph]

U can clear it without a healer. Like what Jun said, bringing ifrit is nice is here. For left side, I used typhon combined with ifrit for clearing most of the enemies & Adding thorn incase they get past. For right side i bring mountain to deal with anyone that gets through

[split cloak]

Theresa jumping v2.0

I had to kyo

[signal granite]

Ya, i tried GG repeatedly self stun and cure as he said

[worthy mason]

got none of those

[split cloak]

I had to do the 2 sniper cage tech he did. Idk why if I didn’t do that, the lock spreads to all my ops

Doesn’t she just give out 1 or 2 cages?

[worthy mason]

do i borrow mod3 or s2m3?

none of my friends have ifrit on support

but gonna friend one later for future use

nvm found one with mod3 s2m3

[unkempt lintel]

me succumb to kyo strat

[dark violet]

I think it's because she periodically spreads the tiles?

[unkempt lintel]

well tbf i dont need to do the cage thingy....but it is what it is

[dark violet]

wait

isn't it possible to mess with the cocoons if the operator retreats?

[split cloak]

Even on phase 1?

[unkempt lintel]

like surtr???

[dark violet]

so cocoon is gone since nobody killed it

[dark violet]

surtr, but also NTR s2 or skalter

I need to test that out

[unkempt lintel]

iirc my surtr dont retreat when succumb to cocoons

i think her hp stays when she get cocooned

[split cloak]

Kyo saves us even on endgame

[dark violet]

killed normal theresa too fast so I didn't get a chance to see what the mechanics were

[jade rose]

i dont know if this is the right place to ask for build, but is there any recommendation or changes i should make for this squad?

[unkempt lintel]

although u can try with ntrk coz she force retreat when end skill rather than hp loss

[dark violet]

ye

[unkempt lintel]

but yeah im kinda expecting that and didnt get the result i want with

[split cloak]

Hold on shit wifi acting up

[dark violet]

getting to e2 will be important

[split cloak]

Show whole roster. Sort by rarity

[jade rose]

alr

[dark violet]

flametail needs e2 and module to really shine

though I guess I'm biased since she only costs 8 dp for me

[regal frost]

you didn't get wis or logos?

[jade rose]

i have more 4 stars but that wont probably matter

[jade rose]

i got logos

no wis tho, trying to get one rn

[regal frost]

id e2 logos first the

then*

[jade rose]

ight

[regal frost]

also if your baseslaves aren't raised check /baseskills in #bot-spam

[hollow nymph]

Sweet, hope u managed to beat it. I tried using other operator with ifrit core in mind, and found ines + ascalon also works if u dont have the operator i mention before

[split cloak]

If e2’ing logos is expensive for you. Try to e2 a good 4*

[jade rose]

is e2'ing the dp printer a good choice?

forgot her name

i think it was martyr

[split cloak]

Domt e2 myrtle first or youll get killed by #help

[regal frost]

[jade rose]

good to know

[regal frost]

E2 logos would have the biggest impact

you could e2 mountain first if you want since he's already high level

[split cloak]

Humus=Pinecone>May=Cutter

[jade rose]

yeah thats a good idea

should i replace jessica 4* once i get logos to e1?

[split cloak]

No dont e2 mt first

He works at e1

[regal frost]

use kroos instead of Jessica

[jade rose]

alr

[vestal gull]

H14-2, what to do?

[jade rose]

Thanks alot

[regal frost]

you can ditch pakrika

chain medics aren't good

[jade rose]

she my good healer tho 😭

aight

[regal frost]

no silence?

[jade rose]

nah

picked the wrong op when i was starting out

picked out liskarm

[split cloak]

For the first e2 i recommend a 4* rather than jumping directly to a 6*. Those are expensive as hell

Mainly just unlocking support carries

[narrow pendant]

I'll carry you

[split cloak]

Ok daddy

[narrow pendant]

[split cloak]

Im not gay btw

[narrow pendant]

Once you see my logos youll be

[split cloak]

I used your logos on my h14 4 clear HAHAHAHA.. mine still has no mod

[narrow pendant]

[hollow nymph]

Blow up the laser thingy(Prism soul remmnant) & after that prepare some sustain on right side

[compact shoal]

Silence alter will rerun with 70 gold cert?

[zinc flume]

Yeah

[vestal gull]

Wdym by that? Like just plop nukers at the middle?

[split cloak]

First time obtainers dont get gold certs at all?

[narrow pendant]

You do

[zinc flume]

You get +1

[narrow pendant]

1 singular

[split cloak]

Damnit… damn 70 missed

[narrow pendant]

Just go 1 year into the past

5head

[hollow nymph]

Yea, wisadel can do the nuking, i used a lvl 60 s3m3 mod 3 to clear the laser thingy

[dark violet]

alright, it's now much easier since I knew what to expect

also cantabile better than ines for me

[split cloak]

Blasphemy

[dark violet]

poor boss got disintegrated

[regal frost]

you used lasers?

[dark violet]

yeah

[polar crane]

laser abuser

[regal frost]

smh

blocked

brute force it

[dark violet]

nah

[split cloak]

I thought you couldn’t dmg the boss lol

I love the beam clash

[regal frost]

ofc you can lol

[dark violet]

ye

[split cloak]

Feels like gohan v cell

[regal frost]

you just need healing to deal with the damage

[dark violet]

or voldemort

[polar crane]

[regal frost]

I used Shu and ng

oh and eyja s3

[dark violet]

bru

I have perfumer

[split cloak]

Perf and ng working overtime

[dark violet]

perfumer is just part of the garden at this point

no work hours

just be there

[dark violet]

[dark violet]

she... she leaves

cocoon is gone

(don't mind the splatter)

[unkempt lintel]

ntrk can be neat to alleviate cocoon pressure 'en

[dark violet]

ok this is even more cursed

the cocoon stays

but you can just redeploy ntr since she left

sadly not many melee spots for the fight, so I guess I need to remove the cocoon anyway

however

you can do even more cursed with dorothy mines

kill the cocoon to move it freely

I should just get dorothy in a cocoon

she does most through her mines anyway

wait no

she can't make new mines then

[worthy mason]

real

[dark violet]

mmh, what if I break multiple cocoons at once

YES

skalter merges cocoons

no wonder I crushed the normal fight without knowing

she was cleaning it all up

[rose patrol]

Does Theresa 's cocoon spawns on operators on last deployment?

[dark violet]

I think?

[rose patrol]

I really don't know how the targeting works on cocoons

[narrow pendant]

Spawns on any op in the 8 tiles around her every 35% hp lost

+theres coccons in the corners that spread

[regal frost]

just murder her with every dps you have and dw about mechanics

[dark violet]

wait, she only spawned it once this time

[split cloak]

How did it spawn a bajillion on my first run and only 2 on my second run

[dark violet]

is it because NTR died during her animation

[split cloak]

It was probably phase 2 when i think about it

[dark violet]

you can just undeploy to react I guess

time for cheese

[narrow pendant]

Cuz she can force-spread it

Even if the normal spread is on cooldown

Read her wiki desc

[split cloak]

Even on phase 1?

Reading? New word hmmm

[glass monolith]

Just use dollkeeper or whatever. Dollknights

[split cloak]

Funny word

[ebon zephyr]

@regal frost do it

[glass monolith]

"Readership"

[regal frost]

I cantt

[pure orchid]

Hello standard banner pullers, today we convene to celebrate my degen ownership

[regal frost]

I'm pulling ulpianus, nymph, Pepe, dungeon meshi

I have 12k orundum

[ebon zephyr]

Add gnosis to that

[regal frost]

I'll just borrow yours so it's fine

[glass monolith]

Congrats on obtaining yet another "Nuke that, nuke this" button on your 300 button keyboard

[dark violet]

what do they do for the mechanic?

[ebon zephyr]

I won't build mine out of spite

[regal frost]

build him for base

[civic bear]

the cocoon is already on the edge of the map

[ebon zephyr]

Is he good with jaye?

[glass monolith]

I have no fucking idea because I need to check, but I feel like Kazemaru doll shadow realmed Banish (Cocoon) , somehow

[civic bear]

her phase 1 summons new cocoon to op on nearby tiles if she hits threshold

but if no op then it doesnt do anything

[regal frost]

and sa

[dark violet]

oh, I guess that makes it easier

[regal frost]

check riic pins cause I don't remember

[dark violet]

why is there patriot here

[civic bear]

phase 2 meanwhile she makes the cocoon spreads. so it comes from the preexisting cocoon and slowly reach ur team which can be fairly fast

[dark violet]

yeah, though if you didn't let cocoon on ops in phase 1, that's much easier

and can use blocks to make the spread much slower

let me try to use strategy this time

"def increased" sadly NTR ignores part of it

she deals stupid damage to the boss

[split cloak]

Ceobe stonks?

[dark violet]

ceobe stonks

absolutely

yeah... Imma switch to dorothy s2

[regal frost]

@nocturne cove bite time

[pure orchid]

bro was bit

[dark violet]

this map is made for SA

and now he even has -20% rdp so good

[glass monolith]

I see wall. How to make Fuze s2 go brrrr?

[crude bay]

How to counter these on the H-3 stage?

[dark violet]

any decent op

[crude bay]

I can survive till boss, but these things are the problem

[dark violet]

they're the least troublesome part of the fight

[split cloak]

Kill fast before orbs touch you

[dark violet]

any melee AH or NTR eats them for breakfast

[crude bay]

That's the problem, too many of their ammo

[split cloak]

Wisadel erases them

[crude bay]

Don't have that

AH only have Skadi and Gladi

No Alter

[dark violet]

I'm assuming anyone asking for help doesn't have wish

[split cloak]

Anti borrow?

[crude bay]

I'm using someone else for that

It's for Texalter to stun and kill those beyblade stuff

[onyx ocean]

guys how do you actually do this?

[nocturne cove]

Nuh uh, I am the only one that bites

Raaaaawr

[split cloak]

You dont have a nuke button for them? Degen? Or someone idk like qb or many others

[dark violet]

dorothy s2

[split cloak]

Virt and sleep

[onyx ocean]

i have no healer

[crude bay]

Nope

[onyx ocean]

i have no virt/dorothy

[dark violet]

that map is great to take a nap with dorothy

[onyx ocean]

ok but i have no dorothy

[dark violet]

I'm sorry for your loss

[regal frost]

biting and meowing is my job

[crude bay]

This is what i use

[dark violet]

dorobless hope you get her soon

[crude bay]

Ela and Ash is for killing those 4 guys

[onyx ocean]

as in, i dont have her in this stage

[dark violet]

oh

[dark violet]

why do you have taxes in high res map

[onyx ocean]

also who needs dorothy when i can have ela

[split cloak]

Yato spin cant kill them? Replace texalt borrow with wis

[crude bay]

Texas for the spinny things

[dark violet]

it's not worth a slot

[crude bay]

S2 is for that guy in the beginning of the stage

[dark violet]

no wonder you struggle

[crude bay]

I suppose

[split cloak]

My guy lacks aoe.. just borrow wis for the spinny things and the orb guys

[crude bay]

Aight, lemme try

Never tried Wis tbh, only that one time in story

[split cloak]

Yeah s3 is wack

Get her

[dark violet]

wish is like

[crude bay]

Oh

[dark violet]

the new mwynar

but more

[crude bay]

A friend already has her s3 on M3

[split cloak]

With mod?

She at least needs a mod1

[dark violet]

I'd be surprised you don't have at least 20 friends with her maxed

[nocturne cove]

My cat said no

[split cloak]

My fkn diverse borrow roster got saturated with wis and logos

[regal frost]

I'll bite your cat

[dark violet]

I had to hunt and beg for friends that had gravel support

[nocturne cove]

Shell scratch you 😭

[dark violet]

specialist is a disaster zone

can't find the one I need

it's all the broken meta ops

[nocturne cove]

Who would have gravel as support

Unless huge simp or asked for

[dark violet]

she's great

she's my go to support

[crude bay]

Wtf was that

She cleaned them off like thay

Two shots and they're all gone

[dark violet]

rgnngh

55 or seconds to redeploy SA

instead of 90 sp to regain

it's insane

[dark violet]

he just be cleaning it up so easily

[crude bay]

@dark violet @split cloak No mod but it worked

[dark violet]

nice

[crude bay]

I underestimated that roach

[dark violet]

she's the strongest op of the game I think

[split cloak]

She's wack

You don't have her or logos?

[crude bay]

Bro, 2 shots and those mobs that spawned with the boss are gone

[crude bay]

Nope, saving for Ulpi

[split cloak]

Yo. Hope you won't regret this decision lol

It is advisable you get them. How many pulls you have rn?

[dark violet]

ulpi isn't limited right?

def get wish

[split cloak]

Yeah

[dark violet]

schwing schwing is back full force

[crude bay]

Nah, i don't like her that much

Besides, i'll probably just borrow her anyway

[split cloak]

How many have you saved rn?

[crude bay]

14k

8 yellow tickets

OP are restricted for skins only

I'm not using it for Orundum

[onyx ocean]

chat am i fucking cooked????? theres a fuckin thorns chest i fkin hate those things

[dapper hedge]

It's fine wis just make you stupid anyw, don't have to rely on her that much

the game is very much still clearable without her

[split cloak]

Rip gl on ulpenis

[dark violet]

all I can say is easy map with dorothy 🥹

[dark violet]

back in the days, people said that about surtr. Though I guess it didn't change

[onyx ocean]

are you a dorothy simp by chance?

[split cloak]

I'm sorry game gave you lots of tank and vg cards and no healers lol

[dark violet]

no?...

I swear

[nocturne cove]

It's fine if you like her

[dark violet]

jokes aside, I just play with her so much that I can't understand a map without dorothy

I did all of IS4 with only doro starter

[onyx ocean]

oh nvm, this stage was easy

[dark violet]

taxes gud

[nocturne cove]

That would be gg for me

[crude bay]

Thanks

Btw, got any good guard suggestions to tank Theresa's balls?

[nocturne cove]

Zuo le

[dark violet]

I'm just thinking, in phase 1, there's nothing to prevent me from stalling right?

[crude bay]

I'm thinking off just yeeting skadi there, since she's really tanky

[crude bay]

No have

[dark violet]

so I should just kill everything before going in phase 2

[nocturne cove]

Support

[crude bay]

Support on Ifrit

[nocturne cove]

Oh

[crude bay]

She's really good in this

I'm just gonna yeet skadi i guess

GG is the one doing the heavy lifting on killing theresa anyway

[onyx ocean]

does anyone go here?

[dapper hedge]

No

No one from top goes there

[onyx ocean]

ok thx

[dapper hedge]

There's a grandpa spawn in the map btw

He gonna move to the middle you kill him there

Easiest f5 map

[dark violet]

so, I guess she's gonna die hard here?

she won't spawn another cocoon right?

[muted sedge]

phase 2 exists

[crude bay]

Who that red fox?

Wait, is that Flametail?

[dark violet]

yeah

[dark violet]

so it was a bit troublesome with patriot and the chalices, I'll admit

however, I have a chance

[muted sedge]

you can clutch that

[dark violet]

mmh, nevermind

I should have killed the chalice first

I can let theresa wait a bit

get ceobe to kill patriot first with SA

then fast redeploy to do the final clear

I guess that'll make the fight pretty easy this way

if she didn't heal so much, she was already dead despite the chalice

SA module is really pure insanity

my squad gained so much

[pure orchid]

Smh i get degen and i cant even slot her in my general team

What a travesty

Time to build her only to whip her out once in a while

[dark violet]

let's test this strategy and see if it works

[void terrace]

Damn

[regal frost]

I'll bite her then bite you

[void terrace]

Havent used surtr in so long

[regal frost]

can I whip y-

[void terrace]

Just absolutely destroyed h14-4 with her

[crude bay]

How to bonk these 2 for stealing Exu buff?

Eyja and Ifrit were already there when Exu spawned

[pure orchid]

Oh suraj

[regal frost]

don't use vanguards and they won't steal simple

[crude bay]

Indeed

[wide sail]

or just retreat them

[dark violet]

ceober was the strategy

[regal frost]

@next wigeon dw I've been sober for 6 months

I don't drink daily like I used to

[narrow pendant]

These H stages are quite easy

[regal frost]

yes

[narrow pendant]

Did first 3 on first try blind

[vestal gull]

H14-3, what to do?

[wide sail]

waiting for logoat mod3 to send h stages to doom dimension

[regal frost]

fredi thoughts on d15 drinking game

[narrow pendant]

I'd rather live in arkights world

[full terrace]

Yeh Chapter 14 H stages are pretty disappointing. Babel was much more fun.

I blame Wisadel for this actually

[regal frost]

poor wis

[wide sail]

crazy solution maybe click on wisadel on the squad select screen and then click someone else

[regal frost]

can I pick you

[narrow pendant]

I didnt even deploy wis in 1 or 3

Im shrimply so smort

[full terrace]

I deployed Wis. I never hold back

But seriously, they should have made challenging H stages

Chapter 12 and 13 were pretty good

[regal frost]

they can't

[pure orchid]

14-3 makes me suck

[narrow pendant]

Im having trouble even making a squad now that i have so many 6* to choose from

[full terrace]

Idk why Chapter 14 is like this..

[narrow pendant]

[narrow pendant]

I will too later

[regal frost]

since everyone had access to it people would cry if it was harder

[narrow pendant]

"Wah! My theress pot! Why did hg make such hhard stages for newbies?! Stupid company"

[full terrace]

I mean, not harder as in harder. Like what was that stage clear just by defeating Theresa, so lame

[regal frost]

true

but still

people would complain

[pure orchid]

Im complaining

[regal frost]

but then again people complain about chapter 5

[full terrace]

Eh.. people complain regardless

[narrow pendant]

U always do

[regal frost]

true

[full terrace]

So true 😂

[pure orchid]

Man

[narrow pendant]

Except when its our night

[regal frost]

I'll make you m-

[narrow pendant]

[narrow pendant]

Meow

[pure orchid]

Meow

[regal frost]

lmao

[pure orchid]

Fuck im getting carsick

Ill go now

[regal frost]

hope you feel better soon

[narrow pendant]

[pure orchid]

Yeah i just gotta stop reading while car move

Which mean i gotta leave here first

Cyall

[full terrace]

"Meow" - 2024 censorship

100/100

[regal frost]

well

[regal frost]

it was a different word

but we can keep it as meow I guess

[dark violet]

https://youtu.be/z8v26-7A3ms I guess gravel is getting even better as time passes.

I wonder how things will change with ulpian

I still don't know what I will do for my squad

[glass monolith]

Imagine having plan

[rose arrow]

is skadi alter that good?

[dark violet]

I never used her s2

her s3 is quite nice

[rose arrow]

true damage plus 110% insp mutiplier

[dark violet]

I'm using perfumer regen to make her usable anywhere

[rose arrow]

mmm, i do use shu. wait inspiration works on healing defenders and medics right?

[dark violet]

yeah

the combo of perfumer regen+ skalter s3 means hyperbuffed regen

gotta love it

[rose arrow]

OHHH

[dark violet]

since her s2 gives a huge amount of atk but lower aspd

[rose arrow]

i thought you were using perfumer to offset her self damage

[dark violet]

so inspiration is even more efficient

[dark violet]

well, both, it's a symbiosis

[rose arrow]

i guess i'll put perfumer onto the building list after... 5 ops

[dark violet]

I'll admit that she's not the strongest, but she fits my squad so well and plays with synergies a lot that I wouldn't use any other medic

[rose arrow]

mmmm

i do think my lumen got retired the moment i got shu

so he could get switched with skalter

[dark violet]

oh, and of course, dorothy and skalter s3 go insane

dorothy has so many multipliers already, along with the double damage mines

buffs are like 4x more efficient

[rose arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-gif-21110512

sorry stainless kept showing up on my dorothy pulls

though i do plan on using skadi and stainless for mlynar/degen

to easier clear the shields in chap14

[acoustic slate]

@rose arrow 99.99% of skadi usage is s2 for the afk attack buff. Stacking different sources of regen is pretty cope if u ask me

[rose arrow]

i already have too much, besides who needs regen if you can kill them before they damage your ops?

[valid rampart]

I’m building some 4star operators in preparation for is5 . Any recommendations?

[acoustic slate]

You already built the good ones. Add pinecone and you’re fine modless Ethan is such a waste btw

[valid rampart]

He doesn’t trust me yet:/

[analog mirage]

i need help for 14 -9

[valid rampart]

Working on it

[keen gull]

Seen some beanstalk and deepcolor used in is5

[full terrace]

You are a 4 Stars player or you are just raising them as backup for your 6 Stars?

[valid rampart]

Just backup.

[full terrace]

I would raise Beanstalk, she comes in handy

IS and CC

[nocturne cove]

why did you deploy gravel?

[valid rampart]

I was sitting on a ton of resources so I might as well build them since they’ll cost 0 hope

[analog mirage]

this is my squad

[vagrant wren]

Welp, RIP me; I never E2'd Amiya. Time to grind orirock cubes for a few days.

Is it ever worth grinding LMD, or should i just grind other things until i get enough passively?

[regal frost]

there's enough rocks in event store to E2 her, also chapter 14 is permanent no need to rush

[full terrace]

14-9 the key is to intercept those unblockable altar carriers spawning from the left lane, so point your Wisadel there (she is also tasked to shoot the Chimeras spawning from mid lane so be careful with her skill timing).

Deploy Texas if Wisadel didnt manage to kill those altar carriers in time

[analog mirage]

i can take care of the unblockable ones the problem is i cant hold bot lane in the end and the ranged blue guys

[solar pike]

W on top left would handle everything, while for bottom lane maybe you can have some ranged dps burst down the guys

[analog mirage]

who is S

[solar pike]

any sniper tbh

any high dps ranged unit

[full terrace]

I used Ela to lane hold right lane, and her bombs to slow down + apply fragile to those altar carriers from the left lane, if you wanna substitute her, keep in mind you need substitute Ela's task to both lane hold and slows down left lane

[solar pike]

I use exu s1

but I reckon kroos + 1 more would do the trick

[analog mirage]

ill just take hes as supporth then

hmm

[solar pike]

you can also place the other sniper on bottom right

[full terrace]

If you are having trouble with Chimera's toughness, throw some Ela's bombs at them

To apply fragile

That way you save some bullets

[solar pike]

do they have ela??

[full terrace]

My Wisadel Lv60, yours 90 you should perform better

[dark violet]

cause she enables NTR real well

[analog mirage]

its the 2 blue guys

that spawn in the end

they nuke my bot lane

[full terrace]

Wisadel's skill wasnt fast enough?

[analog mirage]

i cant get he skill again in time

[dark violet]

she's also pretty good at temporizing, like stopping enemies in their track, or blocking projectiles

[solar pike]

Huh they can only nuke those in originium tiles tho?

[nocturne cove]

i forgot her talent

[full terrace]

Drop Texas then, I did this one in Adverse and her skill charged fast enough

[dark violet]

-5 seconds for rdp time is so good

[analog mirage]

aight lemme try

[dark violet]

and triggers the kaz deployment for stronger s2

combined with SilverAsh reduced rdp cd, it's a menace

[nocturne cove]

-20%

[full terrace]

@analog mirage oh before you drop Texas, throw some Ela bombs at it

[analog mirage]

who is ela again

[dark violet]

yeah, crazy. I need to get the habit of deploying gravel next to SA

[solar pike]

R6 Collab girl

[nocturne cove]

green haired

[regal frost]

ela is ela

specialist trap master

[analog mirage]

gavil and verdant are the only

green hair i have

[nocturne cove]

verdant

no

[full terrace]

You wanna bring her as support? I can help you

[analog mirage]

i was taking thorns support

for bot lane

[regal frost]

is this for Theresa?

[analog mirage]

oh wait

i won

[regal frost]

oh 14-9

[full terrace]

Yeah there grats

[analog mirage]

they all died right before the

storm killed everyone

[full terrace]

😅

[analog mirage]

a win is a win

yea deploying logos in s posiition helped

[rose arrow]

operators gambit

[solar pike]

Goated tile

[analog mirage]

thanks a lot

[solar pike]

any ranged dps there is the easiest way for bot lane tbh

[wraith herald]

just gonna ask here ... in LS-5 which ranged tile would be most optimal to put logos in?

[full terrace]

LS-6 you can 2 ops that stage with either Ela+Reed or Wisadel+Logos

Lemme run you a quick simulation, brb.

[wraith herald]

do they need to be s3 m3 on skill 3, wisadel and skill 1 logos?
and max level / pot / module?

[full terrace]

Wait is it 5 or 6?

[wraith herald]

5

I did 6 already

[full terrace]

I had 6 in mind 😅

Lemme check LS-5 real quick

Brb

[wraith herald]

and yeah I had wisadel solo left, whilst logos solo right with some slight help from additional ops for trust clear

[wraith herald]

thx

[wanton cipher]

Can anyone help me with 14-4 I'm struggling with killing theresa phase 2

Because shes hella tanky

[wraith herald]

you mean h14-4?
I used arturia to proc necrosis with s1, and have eyja s2 to further reduce resistance

[wanton cipher]

Ye ye

And patriot too

How do I avoid him

[full terrace]

Hmm I didnt find any ideal tile for a 2 ops clear with Wisadel, but deplying him on this tile facing right covers all the right side including drones.

With S3 I mean

Only that yellow circled tile isnt covered by his skill

[wraith herald]

ok thanks.

[noble pewter]

If u have logos s3 u can kill patriot when he spawn then his phase 2 u play with roadblock make him run up n down, when his invul gone s3 again to kill

[full terrace]

The problem is Wisadel's drones down there, unless you point her left, the drones will circle around her

[wraith herald]

i had wisadel s3 pointing down, dead center, and logos s1 next to her. of course not 2 op, but i get the satisfaction that everything disappears in logos' domain expansion

[full terrace]

Oh I had my Wisadel down there pointing up

And Logos up there

Same column

If you wanna do that, you can have them face each other

In the same column in the middle

[tulip finch]

Anyone have tips for beating 4-8? These chain guys are super annoying

[dapper hedge]

Bring gravel/*2yato

And drop them when you see them spawn

[wraith herald]

ohhh yeah ...

[wraith herald]

tactic here is use operators with fast redeployment and cheap cost to bait these enemies and break their one time initial attack by retreating them after baiting.
Or have good last deployed defenders take the brunt of their initial attack and healing them till they finish their initial chain attack.

[full terrace]

These chain guys will only use their chain on their initial attack (the first time they have your unit in their attack range). So bring some cheap operators like the 2 Star Yato, and then when they spawn, drop Yato close to them to have them activate the chain attack, then retreat Yato immediately.

[pure orchid]

are the devices in h14-3 hit-based or just your regular hp?

i feel like my exu does nothing

[lofty stag]

i feel like pre bossfight theyre hp based

and during boss fight its hit based

[pure orchid]

wtf is that for zzz

can we boycott this game now

[lofty stag]

what you talking bout

[pure orchid]

like why would it even switch

[full terrace]

If Exu does nothing I think they are HP-based? She hits like crazy

[pure orchid]

why would they do that

it just make me peaced off

[full terrace]

I used Ascalon on 2 of the devices, I cant tell if they are HP-based or Hit-based she works on both

[lofty stag]

s2 does have decent dps

[pure orchid]

hp based without boss

dont look at my fucked run btw

[full terrace]

Good to know.

[pure orchid]

it becomes hit based on boss

defensive sp, so it gets charged by getting hit

i think it becomes an ally to achieve this too

as it was an enemy before with being hp based

and now because i fully understand its mechanics, i completely obliterate this stage

[full terrace]

Haha grats

My run was messy but I cleared it first try going in blind

[wraith herald]

during the phase before boss, each statue has a shield. over a period of time, each shield one by one will be down permanently for your Operators to destroy their hp bar.
Once hp bar is destroyed, you can use them in boss phase by hitting them and activating them to fight back against the boss's attack.

essentially the more statues you have on your side, and the faster you activate them, the easier it is to destroy the boss.

[arctic glade]

any particular tips for 14-3? are you supposed to like brute force it, use slow? or just use my aoe characters

[dapper hedge]

Easy way: Virtuosa

Round about way: pull & push the beacon so the storm kill the shield guys

[jovial nest]

Does Logos' S1 counter enemies that only take 1 damage per hit?

I'm checking because they must have low max HPs, right?

[acoustic slate]

You mean like hit-count-check enemies? Iirc no. The way it works is that it checks if their health is below the threshold and then, if so, attacks with like 99999999 damage.

So in that sense, it’s just a normal attack

Okay I just checked PRTS, it ignores hit rate

[jovial nest]

yeah because i was considering

since hit-count enemies have low af max HP

that it might trigger on Logos' S1

and immediately obliterate them

[glass monolith]

I checked #strategy message his "infinite" damage to execute low hp enemies count as 1 hit then he proceed to eat ass because execute didn't kill so he don't do funny chain reaction

[jovial nest]

lmao ok noted

makes sense

that the "execute" proc counts as 1 hit

wait

yeah no, it would only need to check once

so it can't keep checking and machinegun them to death

[glass monolith]

To do list for Lone Trait Rerun. 0 balls killed S-4/5 (forgot stage) CM execute on Kristen with 99.something% DR

[jovial nest]

I have operators like Ascalon anyways for hit-based enemies.

so not too much of a loss

[glass monolith]

Ethan, Weedy, Kroos alter, Fia S2 because yolo, Goldenglow s3, Lava 0 FPS in IW alter

[jovial nest]

Weedy's S3 true dmg burn?
or just Weedy's S2 to keep shifting them out?

[glass monolith]

Reason to love Arknights - After you strong enough to do content, you are free to go find issues to challenge yourself

Tokens are 0 weight i believe

So Weedy S2 just infinite stall like 99% of IW

[jovial nest]

yeah i remember bullying IW anni with Weedy

[jovial nest]

like trust farm clearing H14-4 as your first and only clear.

[glass monolith]

Almost all maps are 1 blue box with chokepoint, recall only 1 EX map with 2, + boss stages, but even in boss stage there are tiles where all enemies cross paths

[jovial nest]

btw does Ethan S1 offer more dots than Asca talent in general?

as if Weedy stall ain't insane enough, you could bully harder with Asca S2's absurd -MSPD

or use both

before they even reach Weedy's range, those 2 ambushers just bully everything

Maybe Ascalon farther up front since she has killing potential before the enemies turn to tokens

[glass monolith]

I recall Ethan had next to 0 issue doing everyone in IW becuase tokens are slow and most of them had like 3-4 life, max were like 30 hit spear/taunt bird and i assume they could be able to leak Ethan but operators who assisted in killing spear would damage them enough.
Anyway hardcore math of new broken BS on 2+ years events is cringe and my sleep schedule won't fix itself

[jovial nest]

i do love that Ascalon's paradox is IW-themed

[vestal gull]

H14-3 what to do?

[manic oasis]

I've never gotten this far in IS2 what's the strat

[noble pewter]

have some dps aiming left, n tankers to tank laser right, have at least someone able to hit each of the altar thing, then survive n kill all enemy then activate altars to use laser blast boss

[manic oasis]

I was supposed to get Pozy for this apparently but I didn't but I think my team should be good still

[dapper hedge]

Pozy just make it easier but there's bunch of ways to beat this

Hell is2 was out a year before pozy release

[glass monolith]

Boss can teleport forward when blocked but it has like 15 second CD. Boss dodge disabled when blocked. With some way to nuke you can bait teleport, block and rush him

[vivid rain]

You can also just overwhelm phantom with copious amount of relics which is surprisingly doable in is2

[jovial nest]

you could also bring or borrow a Ya2 S3 to deal with the Sudarams that spawn at back

and just let her shred anything else in other times

like the cores

[compact shoal]

Any tips for hiddent front ?

[manic oasis]

I was just worried cause in this mode I'd not understand how an enemy works and I blink and my life points are gone but as you can see my team was cracked so it worked out

[jagged obsidian]

why i'm lossing in the h14-3 just for time

[sullen rover]

ascalon s3 is pretty gud for that map

[shy viper]

hi, i need help with h14-2

[pure orchid]

deploy bunch of aoe left side

ignore the blue box and camp them all

[shy viper]

what are good starters for that

i deployed logos s3

[pure orchid]

sounds good but thats mt, not aoe

close enough tho

logos mlynar wis

[shy viper]

[pure orchid]

wide coverage and mt/aoe

degen perhaps

[shy viper]

[pure orchid]

who do u even have

we might cook

[shy viper]

too hard for my brain or for what i have to my disposal

okay please help me

[pure orchid]

good thing you can borrow

[shy viper]

be back

[pure orchid]

alr

[shy viper]

i dont know how to do the kroos thingy is multiple ss fine

[pure orchid]

fosure

most prefer it really

krooster is a bit harder to navigate imo

[shy viper]

and i never figured out

@pure orchid this is it

i did 300 pulls and exchanged texalter but haven't worked on her

my op box is somewhat painful to witness

[cyan gorge]

You could've gotten 2 or 3 of those level 1s to 60 with the lmd you spent on Wis and Logos 90

[shy viper]

woops

[scarlet fulcrum]

Max pot logos, beautiful

[shy viper]

wish it was wisadel but he came home more often from the 300 pulls

but indeed, beautiful

[pure orchid]

this box sucks i think your uhh just cooked

jk lots of options here

[shy viper]

you got me for a second

I really wanted the token for theresa

appreciate the help

[pure orchid]

wisadel logos
ascalon s2
gavial s2 to some extent
ela, needs module
please e2 your ines

preferably borrow mlynar, but degen could also work

random bullshit helidrop is also great, like surtr bagpipe (and ines, please e2 her)

[shy viper]

I will try that thanks but

i don't know where exactly to put them

[pure orchid]

oh i was banking on you to be creative

let me cook some placements

[shy viper]

I'm missing a few vanguard mats for her e2

36 stam per run is burning especially when I'm being dried by the event

[shy viper]

not enough experience, maybe in the future

I could exchange supporter for vanguard but is it really worth it, 3 < 2

and I'm not impatient

[pure orchid]

yeah here

surtr and bagpipe to kill the dudes camping at the back asap

if you dont, they circle around and kill wisadel and logos

wait i got a better idead

[shy viper]

take your time

some people ss the stage and brush it with lines if you want to do that

[wraith herald]

i got question. I ran out of module datablocks and trying SSS first time...
I watched the SSS for dummies so would like to know if a Logos with increasing attack buff would work?

[shy viper]

i might get lost from all the text

[pure orchid]

here, same concept

surtr bagpipe to kill dudes camping

i was trying to place ela on wisadels left/bottom but map.ark wont let me

everything else you just burst down

mlynar handles the entire middle pretty well

[shy viper]

okay thanks I will try that

[narrow pendant]

Youd probably want like, 4 casters 1 sniper stack on logos with s3

[wraith herald]

for this, I bring everyone to the right and defeat theresa quickly

[shy viper]

wait theresa is there

[pure orchid]

thats not theresa

[narrow pendant]

Since the danger lvl makes enemies get quite the loaded hp, s1 suck

[shy viper]

[wraith herald]

sorry i thought that map looked familiar to theresa level

[shy viper]

no worries

I'm struggling too

[pure orchid]

by any chance, do you have mizuki?

his s3 might legit cook

[shy viper]

level 1

[scarlet fulcrum]

No worries, cant even load the pic

[shy viper]

[pure orchid]

yup nvm that

[shy viper]

wait a second, I might have the mats

[pure orchid]

no dont

its just a wacky idea

[shy viper]

okay

[pure orchid]

dont really need it but itd be really fun

[wraith herald]

well shiteee .... need to maximize skills ...
I currently dont have enough Ops at E2 to give me the synergy i need.

[narrow pendant]

Why do u need e2?

[shy viper]

okay thanks I will let you know how I do

[narrow pendant]

E0 lvl1 random ops work too

[shy viper]

[narrow pendant]

[pure orchid]

wifey have you done danger mode day 18

[narrow pendant]

U just deploy them->logos on top of them

[pure orchid]

Ill deploy myself on top of you

[narrow pendant]

No, too busy

[narrow pendant]

[pure orchid]

Same, i was so tired yesterday that i jwu rn

[wraith herald]

i do but not built

[pure orchid]

i was asking Triangle

[narrow pendant]

📐

[pure orchid]

Oh hi triangle

Identity theft at its finest

[wraith herald]

hmmm so the way to do SSS, is kill enemies as fast as you can before danger level goes up?

[pure orchid]

yeah

[narrow pendant]

U can also just ignore danger lvl completly if u got a good roster

[pure orchid]

borrow logos s1 and stack hella caster and watch everything melt under his gaze

[narrow pendant]

Logos s1 sounds like it would suck

The hp bloat is high hubby

[pure orchid]

yeah but you can bloat his atk too

at the end of the day, its a numbers game

[wraith herald]

not unless he is placed where all enemies converge near spawn point?

[narrow pendant]

SSS is very easy

[wraith herald]

would 5 vanguards and ascalon work with S2?

[pure orchid]

i also like typhon s2 with sniper stacks

[narrow pendant]

No need to worry too much about it

Get like 1-2 carries, stack them and done

[wraith herald]

carries meaning, the main operators to buff?

so they would carry the entire stage?

[pure orchid]

yes

carry you through the entire stage

[narrow pendant]

Yeah
Its shit like 2 caster 3 sniper tifon or gg
5 vg mlynar or degen

[shy viper]

I lost

[narrow pendant]

Now 4 caster 1 sniper logos or wisadeel

[shy viper]

what's the deploy order

bagpipe couldn't even handle the camper, no dmg

[pure orchid]

5 casters and then logos

[shy viper]

who

[wraith herald]

where can I find the buff page of each class?

[shy viper]

my only casters

gg and logos

[pure orchid]

durin works fine

[narrow pendant]

In the tactical equipment tab in SSS itself

[pure orchid]

you just use the previous casters to stack, their individual power is unimportant

[shy viper]

stack what

[pure orchid]

for SSS?

[narrow pendant]

Why are u confusing the man with sss hubby

Diff guy

[shy viper]

man I will try it tomorrow

[pure orchid]

Im talking to

adam

im dieding

[wraith herald]

i will see
By the way, supporters also have another role in SSS?

[pure orchid]

yeah they cycle yours ops fast with the B buff

[wraith herald]

if deployed, I get equipment/ops ?

whats b buff?

[narrow pendant]

Each class hhas 2 buffs u can switch between

[glass monolith]

You get equipment when deploy over. Supporters instead have on deploy activation so no equipment from them

[wraith herald]

ohhhh

[pure orchid]

@shy viper how goes the clear

[wraith herald]

whats everyone's opinion on 5 vanguards with ascalon? S1 or S2?

[narrow pendant]

He said he lost

Pay attention

Dumdum

[pure orchid]

WHERE

[mellow totem]

Anyone has 12-20 strat?

[pure orchid]

oh

[pure orchid]

okay maybe scratch bagpipe then, try ela instead

ines (for dp) > wisadel > mlynar (to charge s3 asap) > surtr/ela > logos > gavial > ascalon
redeploy surtr and ela somewhere more useful afterwards

bring more vanguards if you need to setup faster

or dps if you need more random shit

[shy viper]

they are eating me alive

[pure orchid]

fuck medics, i almost never use medics and i didnt use one here

[shy viper]

[pure orchid]

Then eat them from the inside

[shy viper]

okay let me try that

[shy viper]

im already in their stomach, i will start with theirs first, bloody hell

also, do you know if

mastering a skill

sp cost is less for activation?

[pure orchid]

for some skills yes

some masteries dont affect sp cost at all

[shy viper]

thanks because i saw something interesting

[pure orchid]

For example, CE s3m3 reduces sp cost from 70 to 55
but CE s2m3 doesn't reduce sp cost at all, which is why i often say that the mastery gains are bad esp. when we have skalter

[shy viper]

i see

what skalter do

[narrow pendant]

But she gets more ball dmg, longer bind and 100% inspiration

I did s2m3 first

Suck it

[shy viper]

i dont have her

nek time

[wraith herald]

wow .. logos on 3503 attack

instant delete at spawn point

[mellow totem]

Penace and mudrock for the 2 blue boxes on the up and down,in middle then maybe bring a Mlynar with u,place wisadel + logos on the 2 tiles that between 2 red boxes

Gl hf

[glass monolith]

Operator skill doing what it says it does?

[pure orchid]

whatd i tell ya

[pure orchid]

Okay

[narrow pendant]

[wraith herald]

can i post the ss here?

[pure orchid]

Fine then i wont hmph

[pure orchid]

me when peak comedy

you dont even have to press anything even with logos and typhon there

just stack em and put on a blindfold right after

you could even move logos 1 tile closer

and typhon on logos tile

[wraith herald]

maybe but I went for the safe option incase a flying enemy gets outside of her range too quickly

on the sides since logos doesnt cover it

[pure orchid]

alternatively you could also just point logos at the blue box

[wraith herald]

btw, if a level is completed and you get more operators, do they replace your current ones randomly?

[pure orchid]

no they just add

[wraith herald]

thank goodness

what happens if you fail? do you keep the rewards or no?

[pure orchid]

you can retry

starting at the stage you failed

[wraith herald]

hmmm or you can leave with the rewards you have?

[pure orchid]

yeah

[wraith herald]

i see how this is fun, frustrating yet fruitful.

depends on the stage and which ops you bring ...