strategy

[regal frost]

when you said IS2 you did mean the phantom one right?

[viral trout]

yeah

i havent even touched is3 or is4 yet

[regal frost]

oki just making sure

[regal frost]

degen and Zou want module I believe

[viral trout]

not 100 trust

[spark sinew]

zuo is dog without mod

[dark violet]

not seeing dorothy is a sad day

[regal frost]

btw have you done first clear yet to unlock class squads?

[spark sinew]

logos wants mod a lot but is usable without

[viral trout]

isnt it 20 more aspd and 0.3 sp/s

[regal frost]

I will bite you

[viral trout]

i dont hage the trust

[regal frost]

place them as base assistant in control center, it helps a lot

[viral trout]

i already did

[dark violet]

what do you farm with

trust squad is good

[spark sinew]

even with 252 MR i have 194 🤔

[viral trout]

my interest in the game was very low for a long time

[regal frost]

they took a break cause exams

[dark violet]

ah, so no farming

[viral trout]

yeah

[dark violet]

yeah trust would be low

[viral trout]

degen is at 92 and zuo le is at 55

i find zuo le very fub

n

[regal frost]

but anyway if you wanna bully is2, do wis'adel start by borrowing

[viral trout]

how should i get started with is3 and is4

i feel like i need another vanguard other than like fsng or myrtle so ive been considering building cantabile

[regal frost]

I'm gonna say wis'adel too just cause she invalidates so many things

[dark violet]

they tend to cover most of your vanguard needs

5* vanguards is just ew

[regal frost]

but Texas ela start for is3 works too

[glass monolith]

If you come back to AK after burn out... Do not start IS3 And maybe MoM squad with upgrade to start with Relic Logos abuse

[regal frost]

is4 wis'adel, ela, I forgot who else

[dark violet]

IS3 is fine

it just has cancer

in multiple forms

[spark sinew]

is2 is wisadel start

[regal frost]

I enjoy is3 now

[glass monolith]

That cancer made my abnoxious build up so high i refuse to play IS4

[spark sinew]

is3 is wisadel start

[regal frost]

i used to hate it

[spark sinew]

is4 is, wait for it, wisadel start

[regal frost]

oh add me and you can borrow my wis'adel

Suraj#2037

[viral trout]

ok

[spark sinew]

is3 is piss easy now

[full terrace]

IS2 IS3 you can start with Texas alter, Fang, Kroos. IS4 can do Reed alter or Degen, I personally prefer Reed for the heals.

[dark violet]

IS4 is really fun, try it

the best IS by far

[spark sinew]

even ed4

you just start wisadel and use MoM

[glass monolith]

But IS5 exist

[viral trout]

dont have reedalter

[dark violet]

not yet

[spark sinew]

izumik is soloed

[dark violet]

in 4 months I think?

[regal frost]

congrats on being friend 99 here's a cookie

[viral trout]

ngl im just pretty much a casual

[regal frost]

it's been so long since I did is2 I don't remember the stages

[viral trout]

i know them fine

im only on candle 50 tho

[regal frost]

i think the only troublesome stage is emergency poison mist stage without a medic

[spark sinew]

exalter borrow for e2 over wisadel angle?

[regal frost]

maybe

[spark sinew]

you can leak right side

so you only need to hold left

[viral trout]

yeah i lost my latest run to the poison emergency which literally shredded all my operators because i didnt have a multi target healer

[spark sinew]

mid right exalter holds

and soloes the boss without heals

[spark sinew]

deploy less ops

so your healer pressure is lower

[viral trout]

i only had like 5 onfield

[spark sinew]

or even cycle the ops

[viral trout]

honey berry exploded like immediately

[spark sinew]

5 is a lot

[regal frost]

i can hop into VC a bit later if you wanna stream it btw

[full terrace]

You tested it? I still need to find time to test her performance, but I can imagine that Invisibility of her makes the big difference since I dont need to pray for Fincatcher's Shawl.

[spark sinew]

honeyberry is the worst medic

[viral trout]

uh its 3.14 am and i dont have bluestacks cause it lags my laptop too much for it to be playable

i dont have like eyjaberry

[regal frost]

nvm then

[spark sinew]

you stall for phase 2 and redeploy
ideally using crane

[viral trout]

i guess i can level mulberry but im a sunk cost and have like 0 exp cards left

[spark sinew]

she can't be killed at all on phase2

so she just kills with insane buffs from mom

[regal frost]

don't need to

[spark sinew]

use normal medics

[regal frost]

their ops btw

[spark sinew]

elemental ones are a scam

even on IS2

oh wow, wtf

[spark bay]

Anyone know how to complete sly shadow in Hidden front? 5/5 doesn't seem to appear for me

[regal frost]

unfortunately not

[spark sinew]

ptilo lumen shining saria skalter

[viral trout]

i havent used shining since i got like lumen me thinks

[regal frost]

you forgot Shu smh

[viral trout]

so like 3 years

[regal frost]

but anyway the only wandering medic worth building is eyja

[viral trout]

i got swire alter and not eyjaberry sadly

and also got lee instead of ling on her debut

[regal frost]

you're not missing out on much dw

Especially with ling

[spark sinew]

build asca

[regal frost]

also Ansel is usually fine for early floors

and cost 0 hope

[viral trout]

i dont have the chips to e2

[regal frost]

so it's a win win

[viral trout]

and i do have ansel lvl 55 e1

[regal frost]

try wis'adel start with some 3*s and you should be able to bully is2

I can't remember if thorned chest exist there

[spark sinew]

me when i just point wisadel outside of thorned chest

[viral trout]

btw which like starting uh

[regal frost]

I was thinking of wis'adel aoe hitting the chest lol

[viral trout]

perk or whatever is best

is it tje 4 free hp

temp 4 free hp

[regal frost]

you don't have the class squads unlocked?

the ones that let you start with a E2

[viral trout]

nope

[regal frost]

uh

[viral trout]

ive only beaten is2 once lmao

[regal frost]

screenshot the squads pls

I'm doing auto atm

[full terrace]

Do Support Squad

And buy some stuff at the end of floor 1

[regal frost]

support squad is good yes

[viral trout]

whats the general team comp or number of like certain classes i should have

[regal frost]

wait

you are playing this on normal difficulty right?

[viral trout]

ye

[spark sinew]

leader is very strong if you play well

but also you can just not leak with wisadel nowadays i think

[viral trout]

it allows mistakes and risk taking yeah

[spark sinew]

a lot of maps just have 1-2-3 scary enemies

[viral trout]

reminds me of burning blood from slay the spire

[spark sinew]

that are supposed to break your frontline

if you can leak them, the stage is way easier

[viral trout]

oh

[spark sinew]

but to do that, you need to know how that particular map plays

[viral trout]

which encounters are especially good

[full terrace]

I used a lot of Fiammetta in IS2, there were no maps that she wasnt good at in IS2.

[viral trout]

should i keep doing is2 or try is3/is4

[full terrace]

Wisadel will definitely work if she worked

IS3 has easier bosses but slightly trickier map gimmicks, it's up to you

[regal frost]

is2 just gets invalided by any op tbh

[full terrace]

I find IS3 easier

[regal frost]

wis'adel just breaks IS

[full terrace]

IS4 I only recommend you do it after you are familiar with the game mode

[regal frost]

also it's just about managing hope and knowing who to recruit I guess

[leaden kraken]

Wisadel M3 what first and 2nd?

[near cypress]

So I am going through chapter 12 right now and the gimmick is annoying

But Ling has saved me

The difficulty is getting low cost, high block units down to deal with all the spies and the 20 DP maximum

[narrow pendant]

Shitling propaganda

[near cypress]

18 x 2 for 4 block is insane value in W12 (not to mention the ridiculous damage her summons will do)

Such skill

[hearty basalt]

Any suggestions on wisdel placement on DM-5?

[narrow pendant]

In the middle

[near cypress]

Yeah, you got a picture of the map? I placed her all the way to the right of the main area facing my own base

[narrow pendant]

Below the left vent aitflow, one tile down

[near cypress]

Then 2 defenders to block but not kill anything

[hearty basalt]

?

[hearty basalt]

Ah okay. Thanks

[near cypress]

I did this (the red dots are literally any defender). Honestly the defenders probably aren't even needed, barely anything even makes it to them

[narrow pendant]

Million ways

[near cypress]

Yeah

It really doesn't matter

[viral saffron]

Who for Wiš'adel?

[narrow pendant]

Ansel or something i guess

[spark sinew]

raise steward to e1

also raise your other bsse workers

cut courier/ steward/ one of the medics

[viral saffron]

I need carry. Stuck at 3-8 that's why

[glass monolith]

Reminded, ranged enemies attack last deployed thing in their range

Also piece of shit does 4 times as much damage in melee

[spark sinew]

doesn't kal just tank it

or at least does alright damage

[glass monolith]

[dark violet]

smh, mwynar is already powercrept

[dark violet]

tragedy, seems like the module upgrade doesn't work for the mines yeah

guess I'll stay with 4 seconds

[agile ember]

oh shit lol.

[regal frost]

nvm they did it

[agile ember]

rip

[royal rose]

How are you supposed to deal with 14-17?

Those chalices soak way too much damage

[regal frost]

would you like to borrow my wis'adel and delete them?

[royal rose]

Like, even Virt has a hard time getting through their stupidly large HP bars

I’m just trying to figure out how you’d solve it without a crazy meta team

[regal frost]

wis S3, logos S3, mylnar S3

uh

oh

[royal rose]

I already brought Virt, Ines, Eyjalter, Ela and Horn

[regal frost]

suzuran

suzu S3 to amp damage

[agile ember]

degens also pretty good ive found

[royal rose]

Finding a good position for Mlynar is kinda awkward, but I guess it works?

[regal frost]

wait she hits air?

[agile ember]

yea. ive basically used her and walter to deal with all chalices lol

[regal frost]

damm

I'll pull her rerun

[cyan gorge]

I’ve been using Typhon mostly

[gentle finch]

I used Logos S3 with Degen

Skalter seaborne on Degen pretty much schooled them

Stage was p easy tbh, cleared first try

[wide sail]

post logos wisadel world content is crazy braindead

[regal frost]

yes

yes it is

I've been using them in IS, so much fun

[fierce tendon]

How dafuk did i failed 14-18? Is it because the battle takes soo long?

[floral cloak]

I'm terrified just looking at this image, is this from chapter 14 my god 😭

[fierce tendon]

Ye

[floral cloak]

Did you manage to win the stage at least

[regal frost]

yes

[fierce tendon]

That stage is cinematic, that all you have to do is just watch

[fierce tendon]

Aah, i see, i was just having fun

[regal frost]

happened to me too

[fallen terrace]

I have brain rot how do i do this?

They Get rocked and Zuo Le cant kill white girl

[tawdry path]

you need to gank theresa

[fallen terrace]

Oh so its All out attack

Is Ceobe effective vs her

And gonna Bring Ray too just in case

[fierce tendon]

Whats the boss mechanic of that stage again

(i havent reached that stage yet)

[fallen terrace]

Stun with no Retreat

Its a pain

[fierce tendon]

Crazy

[fallen terrace]

And theres a Handicap

U need to bring E2 Amiya

[wide sail]

dissing ceo like that is crazy

[fallen terrace]

[noble arrow]

She can really be only damage if an operator is blocking her orbs

[wary orchid]

are you through with this stage now?

[clear glade]

I can't clear 3-8 with this squad, even if I borrow a Wisadel - am I doing something wrong?

[wide sail]

i always see people do la pluma if only e1s

[vocal leaf]

use aak/warf on zuo le s3

just need 3 skill activations

[dark violet]

what the hell

I'm getting scammed

[rich crow]

How to win this stage guys?

[earnest lark]

sacrifice 1 ops

[rich crow]

I forgot to read the enemies’s skill

[earnest lark]

u can use phonor to bait

[rich crow]

Where should Input that

[dark violet]

not picking gravel

[rich crow]

Where to put it?

[earnest lark]

on the right side of the stage, so 4 enemies will target 1 sacrifice enemy

so u can deploy ops

they will not attack after that bomb anyway

[rich crow]

Near the bluebox?

[earnest lark]

yes

[wide sail]

theres 2 bazookas at the end aswell iirc so dont forget to bait that

[rich crow]

There’s a mouse boss

What does he do?

[fallen terrace]

Yep defeated it a while ago and just watching the cinema, thanks

[rich crow]

I noticed two blue signs on my ops

[wide sail]

rat king big art shield and targets highest max hp with cross and lowest with tornado

when i say art shield it can only be broken by arts

[earnest lark]

atk ur highest ops with the highest n lowest atk stat
i maybe wrong

[wide sail]

and gives him huge def when active

[earnest lark]

either atk or hp

[wide sail]

wisadel can probably kill him through it though

its hp based iirc

phys cross on highest and debuff tornado on lowest

[rich crow]

Thanks clear it

[wide sail]

gg

[earnest lark]

no really, skullshatter can be such a pain for newbie

u can try it again
just bring more damage dealer. Dont be shy to looking guide at yt too.

[dark violet]

I'm sure that deploy order is what messes with you

[earnest lark]

probably, just make sure to deploy defender as the last op to be deployed

[woeful mesa]

having 0 rollst and no gold certs, also having completed the whole storyline... how many pulls would i still be able to get during Walter White Banner?

im thinking abt sparking the original W

[dark violet]

you've got 12 free pulls at least

and an extra ish 12 pulls from the ore mining

[proud dune]

Any advice for the chapter 14 boss fight? I beat it in standard already but I’m still not certain on the mechanics for adverse

[rich crow]

How should I deploy my ops to clear this ending IS2? Last time I failed

Wrong image

[dark violet]

that's a tough ending

[rich crow]

This one

With the red birds going in a rectangular route

[woeful mesa]

plus the provisional mining permit and the special access subscription, which would make abt 24 in total

aight thx

[dark violet]

prolly want wish on the top left

[rich crow]

Face right?

[dark violet]

yeah

[rich crow]

And logos? Unfortunately I don’t have him at E2

[dark violet]

less important if not e2

[earnest lark]

i dont know about ur whole account situation
but u can clear the side story for more rolls

[dark violet]

getting thorns s3 out sooner would help

[rich crow]

I have 8 deployment spots

[woeful mesa]

finished everything in the game, basically

currently at 173 pulls and thinking abt sparking the original W
got 3 Wis and 1 Logos in the banner so im not really going for them anymore

[dark violet]

oh yeah, if you're at 173 then you probably don't need any effort to get the pulls

did you get the pulls from shop already?

event and monthly green certs

the free pulls should be just enough to cover it all

[earnest lark]

if u f2p
daily give u 100 x 12 = 1200
weekly 500 x 2 = 1000
monthly bonus 200 x 12 = 2400
anniikation 1800x 2 =3600

the total will be 8200

[dark violet]

oh wait yeah

there's anni

easy

[earnest lark]

well u get atleast 20+ pulls

[dark violet]

that's not counting the approx 24 free pulls from event

[woeful mesa]

aight then ig

[rich crow]

Should I deploy something like this

[earnest lark]

oh u have wisadel right?

[rich crow]

Yes

[earnest lark]

u can spawn kill the boss lmao

[rocky kelp]

this is good

[dark violet]

there? huh

[rocky kelp]

just protect thorns

[full terrace]

What ops do you have right now

[rich crow]

Here

I have 8 slots

[dark violet]

is it because wish is that broken

[rich crow]

So I’ll bring hibicus as well?

[earnest lark]

yeah

[rocky kelp]

i guess if you place wis early you can also put her here

[earnest lark]

i just tried it this morning

she can spawn kill phantom

[dark violet]

just place a defender before thorns

[earnest lark]

well, beware for the miss tho

[celest bluff]

IS3
MoM
Wisadel

[rich crow]

Wait I’m lost

[full terrace]

Can you take me a screenshot of the map preview without doodle?

[rich crow]

How can I do that?

[earnest lark]

apparently, phantom have a good dodge to wisadel atk

i need 4 bullets

[dark violet]

back in my days we used poz to kill phnatom

[earnest lark]

if u have a very good relic, 1 is enough

[earnest lark]

back in my days i need 30+ life points to leak phantom

[rich crow]

I have these relics

[full terrace]

Nvm I got it

[dark violet]

have I been corrupted by IS3-4, that seems extremely low amount of relics

like barely half of the standard amount

[earnest lark]

is enough

atleast wisadel can kill it, even tho not 1 bullet

[dark violet]

damn, back then red bow tie was bad

[rich crow]

So, how should I deploy them?

[dark violet]

now it's insane

+4 hope and an extra dep slot for bosses

[full terrace]

@rich crow Here:

• Thorns on purple circle, facing up
• Exe on yellow circle, facing up
• Wisadel on blue circle, facing right
• Kroos on orange circle, facing right
• Hibiscus on red circle, facing up
• Amiya on white circle

[rich crow]

So I’ll still have two slots left, for whom?

[full terrace]

You can take Logos

[rich crow]

And also, which skill should I use for amiya and logos?

[full terrace]

And maybe Jessica for your panic button

Amiya I havent tested her myself I cant give recommendation or advice. I only recommend something when I have personally tested it and know that it works.

Logos skill 1 should be fine

Lemme see

[rich crow]

Okay, and key takeaway?

[dark violet]

tbh wish should be killing most on her own

I doubt there'll be struggle

[rich crow]

Wish first, and then thorn?

[dark violet]

prob thorns first

[rich crow]

Last time I didn’t have thorne, I used amiya guard and 1 aoe healer

[dark violet]

the right side takes longer to come out

[rich crow]

Wish face right as well, with E2 logos but somehow still failed

[full terrace]

Logos Skill 1 at green circle facing right

Amiya is Incantation Medic, she will hit stuff and make sure both herself and Logos are healed

The main team in the middle is handled by Hibiscus, you should be good

There will be a lot of enemies swarming at your Exe and stunned him but Thorns is on 2nd choke

[rich crow]

So, how about the boss? I think he will jump over the block, right?

[earnest lark]

no if hes dead

[full terrace]

By the time they stun Thorns, Exe will wake up

You should be good

[full terrace]

Wisadel shot him in his spawn

Ideally he will die here

But if he doesnt, Amiya up there can still dps

Also Thorns

[rich crow]

In this stratergy, wisadel is facing the right, how can she hit the boss when he comes from the left?

[earnest lark]

well if u unlucky enough that all of wisadel atk is miss

[earnest lark]

no, hes basically spawn right below the ranged tile in the right side of the map

[full terrace]

The boss will stop here and idle for a bit in case Wisadel didnt manage to kill him in his spawn position

And Amiya and Thorns will dps him

If you choose to face Logos up, he can also dps him

But really I recommend you facing him right

The pressure on mid is kinda huge

[rich crow]

So deployment order: thorne -> wisadel -> hibicus-> kroos-> execulter alt -> logos -> amiya?

[full terrace]

Hibiscus after Thorns, he is dying otherwise

Then Exe alter after that, focus on mid lane first

[rich crow]

Okay thanks. Let’s go

[full terrace]

Best of luck

[rich crow]

I cleared it! Thanks for your help again. Executor died so quickly because of the constant hp loss. I replaced him with jessica. Kroos also died quickly, and when the boss arrived my wisadel didn’t have the skill yet. So, it’s mostly amiya and thorne did the dps!

[full terrace]

No problem, and congrats

[frank heath]

Who is the best to replace Blaze, guys?

[full terrace]

Yeah good thing you brought Jessica with you for panic button

[earnest lark]

u can try thorns or mountain as lane holder

[full terrace]

The mid lane is kinda big problem

[earnest lark]

or chongyue if u have

ifrit gonna help u anyway

[frank heath]

I have Chongyue

Alright

Thank you @earnest lark

[clear glade]

If these are the units available to me, who do you think I should use on 3-8

[trail spear]

Realized I really need pulls for W alter so time to do my insane backlog of annihilation

Whats the strategy for this map? For reference, this is what I got: https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/Alter

[cyan gorge]

Typhon spawncamp

With 2 blockers

[trail spear]

All my friends are on s3 😭

[cyan gorge]

Then do something like Blaze + Chalter idk

Or find a Typhon s2 friend

[earnest lark]

well, u got a lot of underlevel ops
u can easily follow kyostinv strat,

2 VG, 2 Medic, 2 Sniper, 2 Defender, 1 Aoe Caster, Amiya, melantha, and 1 ops for panic button

yeah u need to upgrade amiya

[clear glade]

Ahhh okay, I'll work on getting my Amiya up - I'm also happy to just follow what kyostinv does, does he have content that just fully follows the campaign? I'm trying to get as many pulls for Wisadel, so I held off pushing the campaign

[round hinge]

since u cant attach him from side got to use caster to AA and stall for this stage

[earnest lark]

Campaign? if u mean by main story, he have a playlist for that. You can check it out. If u mean by annihilation, he also have the playlist for that.

good luck, and dont forget to upgrade ur ops level

[celest bluff]

I brought lapp

[wary orchid]

trying to reach 600 aids on front missions rn (that's good actually)

[dark violet]

didn't expect the "push slightly" from swalter to do this

[cyan gorge]

Push slightly x 10

[wheat widget]

Yo is there any strat for annihilation 3 with logos?

[cyan gorge]

Play the stage and find out

just put an op in front so he isn't face tanking the ballista and he should carry

[timid schooner]

what is the same thing between the essence of evolution and this one

they both ruin ur auto

[dark violet]

why would you auto the boss

[timid schooner]

[dark violet]

your fault

[vernal lion]

lol this boss is funny lol

[timid schooner]

ye ik right

[vernal lion]

Degen just kills herself

then other one saves her

then she save others

[earnest lark]

leak from the bottom left enemy?

[gentle finch]

whats the boss gimmick?

[earnest lark]

u kill her in 3rd phase, and the stage will end in 13 seconds

no 3rd, it was 2

[gentle finch]

alright

[vernal lion]

the cocoon that will disarm your op, unless someone kill it and the new cocoon will apply on that op

[gentle finch]

alright

would you guys say it was difficult

[earnest lark]

ez af

[vernal lion]

so, Degen is kinda busted for this boss lmao

[gentle finch]

Man

I don't have Degen sadly

jk

Anything else I should have in mind

like is the main focus the boss?

[earnest lark]

this is probably the easiest boss i have encounter when first play the stages

[gentle finch]

Damn

[vernal lion]

after she enters p2, you have limited time to kill her, before she ends your whole stage

[gentle finch]

Noted

[earnest lark]

blaze + eyja + surtr is enough to kill her

[vernal lion]

actually, limited time is just that she spread out the cocoon on entire map

[gentle finch]

no blaze or surtr 🔥

[gentle finch]

so I gotta school her p1

[earnest lark]

well any delete button then

[cyan gorge]

Mlynar + Aak was my solution

[toxic aurora]

what is patriot doing here

i thought he died

[gentle finch]

I'll see how I can doing working with the ops I've got

[gentle finch]

He's weakened I think

died easily

[earnest lark]

idk abou lorewise

[gentle finch]

Neither do I

[earnest lark]

but probably some flashback sht

[vernal lion]

patriot is just an illusion

pretty weak

same as any boss in that stage

they are not real

[full terrace]

It has something to do with the lore, ||That Patriot and Sanguinarch are only souls since they have already died in the previous chapters. After the confrontation with Revenant, Amiya and the others crashed their Lifebone and went inside the Originium. Inside the Originium, the Myriad Souls are trapped and waging their eternal war. When Amiya and the others are heading to Theresa's location, they are stopped by the Myriad Souls. Logos is a ferryman for the Sarkaz, so he volunteered to stay behind since handling souls is kinda Banshee's specialty, that's why in that stage you start with him in the middle.||

[toxic aurora]

damn

no wonder why he is sop op

[celest bluff]

texalt is perfectly fine with SS+ res enemy with her s2

damn

[restive valley]

I have a question, and I am hoping that I am not seeing things, but chapter 9 the boss stage... are the mobs can able to remove the fallen pillars? Cuz they did while I was trying to clear CM there.

[acoustic slate]

Any mob will destroy any roadblock if you have completely cut off their path to the blue box.

[restive valley]

.... I need to see the map again...

[fierce tendon]

Mofo idk how annoying will theresa's mechanics in H stages be
(i havent finished adhesive 3 in previous 2 chapters yet)

[celest bluff]

I think even Gravel is more useful than Crownslayer

[vernal lion]

CS s3 is kinda like a buster, without getting targeted by enemy attack

ok, this afk is good

boss-kill before it's able to move around the map

[fickle ravine]

I’m a bit late but, do you think fed ex can hold the bottom-middle lane in bb-s-4?

[toxic aurora]

is amiya medic good?

[full terrace]

Some people said she is decent in IS5

[narrow pendant]

Shes the best amiya if that counts for anything

But still falls short

[strange fable]

She isnt

amiya guard is the best

[tepid mica]

What’s the strategy for 14-21?

[vernal lion]

burst the boss

[tepid mica]

But those crystal floor things get in the way

[vernal lion]

you have limited time

so you can only kill the boss before the cocoon covering entire the field

[vital pagoda]

guys i need help with 14-21 ae

[regal frost]

yes?

[winged eagle]

that's a useful username, thanks

[regal frost]

#help got tired of typing it out lol

[vital pagoda]

any recs for low end teams? i tried all the ones on youtube and still somehow failed

[regal frost]

uh

show your ops

[winged eagle]

also, one thing that came in handy is having someone tank the boss's orbiting thingies, since they reduce her damage taken

[regal frost]

https://youtu.be/fWMuXL4imsE?si=PoFLcK5DXBKDa7Kv

[vital pagoda]

tried that one already

[regal frost]

what went wrong?

[vital pagoda]

Couldn't defeat round one theresa fast enough

Sometimes spot would die

[regal frost]

use saria instead of spot

[vital pagoda]

my saria sucks

[regal frost]

should still work better than spot with s1

[winged eagle]

a shu, if you can find one, would be good too

[vital pagoda]

is my wisadel strong enough?

[regal frost]

probably easier just to borrow a S3M3 mod 3 wisadel and nuke

id offer mine but friendlist full

[vital pagoda]

oh boy

[winged eagle]

I have a shu and typhon I can offer

but I feel like you should be able to do this, I cleared just recently with a lot of familiar faces

[regal frost]

well tbh

your wis with surtr and mylnar should be enough

[winged eagle]

yeah, mlynar being able to tank the inner loop to help eat the defense boost from the little orbitals helped a lot. just make sure to keep them healed

[regal frost]

https://youtu.be/LQ-PKv3J_50?si=PCm942L1gJ5L80BN

use wis, thorns, gg, gavial to defend blue box

mylnar and surtr to kill Theresa

should be more than enough

[vital pagoda]

how do i avoid wisadel being stunned

[vernal lion]

have someone to kill the cocoon

actually, I found out that true-aoe attack is the key for this

like the ambusher specialist

their attack can kill multiple cocoons so only that op will get cocoon instead

the same for Degen s3

Degen s3 save other op, then other op saves her, then she saves them again...

[full terrace]

Kaltsit that Theresa. Also that stage requires Amiya, use her S3 for extra True Damage.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OaF6ItddEZs

[vital pagoda]

i tried replacing spot with shu and using mylnar and got 2 stars

[vernal lion]

the boss is kinda a big dps check

so high rarity squad doesn't look like to struggle with this boss

[vital pagoda]

didnt work, my wisadel isnt strong enough

[full terrace]

You have 10 extra slots..

[regal frost]

@narrow pendant your wis is mod right 3?

[tall sierra]

Saw 37s kill video, dun think i can copy that setup

[regal frost]

there's a two op wis Texas clear

[narrow pendant]

Uh, no?

[regal frost]

oh

[narrow pendant]

Im a newbie, i dont have W

To have trust already

[regal frost]

then next option is I unfriend you, let them borrow my wis'adel then add you back lol

[narrow pendant]

😭

Why me of all people

[regal frost]

cause

[narrow pendant]

Unfriend someone random

Not your bestie

[regal frost]

i can't

[narrow pendant]

Wtfart is this treatment

[regal frost]

everyone's from this discord

anyway I'll add you back

[narrow pendant]

All 100 people?

[regal frost]

like 80 of them at least idek anymore

they're all active

[narrow pendant]

Thats 20 that arent

Smhmhmhmhmh

Bullying

[regal frost]

Suraj#2037 add

[vital pagoda]

this worked

thankssss

[regal frost]

you've been saved

[flat warren]

i need help. any idea how to trigger this last 3 end? specifically "appropriate adaptation"? please help me!

[regal frost]

maybe they're locked behind H stages? not sure

I'll see if I can find something

[flat warren]

iirc i saw all the options when i'm about to finish, but it all ends differently

i already completed this IS stuff couple times, all finished in Londinium

[regal frost]

https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/s/C97hHvrC3E

[flat warren]

dang man you're really mvp

all hail logos

[leaden linden]

idk maybe this is a little overkill

[tawdry path]

The squad of all time

[celest bluff]

99 block

[distant bone]

can someone help me with 14-22 my units are dying before the enemy even gets close

[mint iron]

built diff

[full terrace]

14-22? You sure you didnt type that wrong?

[regal frost]

probably 14-21

[mint iron]

14-22 is the story stage

[distant bone]

im not making a typo

its 14-22

like theyre both on really low hp and idk what to do

[regal frost]

huh

just keep playing

[full terrace]

Nah this guy is just trolling

It's not funny btw

[celest bluff]

Just keep playing

[distant bone]

thanks that worked out

[delicate flare]

mf got e290 mod3 s3m3 pot 6 walter and still losing

[narrow pendant]

So your twin, whale?
Hi bean

[delicate flare]

no i stopped at pot 1 walter

might swipe for logos

cause i got degen offrate

[narrow pendant]

Wow lucky

Now u dont need to borrow degen

I got only 1 offrate in all my pulls

[delicate flare]

no fib told me i need pot 6 walter for IS5

[narrow pendant]

Borrow mine, its pot5

[delicate flare]

oke

[glossy drum]

who's a tanky boss on which I can test out my buff army provided the boss will just not die in 2 hits

or a stage where buff army good

I tested it on patriot and he died in like 2 hits

[vernal lion]

test on Kristen

[delicate flare]

quintus

:trollface:

[narrow pendant]

Quilon :clueless:

[celest bluff]

you should stop testing on Patrioit since last year

[regal frost]

that's a understatement

[glossy drum]

kristen dies easily too

why ak not have some training room whwre we can simulate any enemy with custom stats

[celest bluff]

S stage?

[glossy drum]

ok I didn't do S lemme try that

[celest bluff]

Just need to bursting down them balls

[mental storm]

should i replace anybody on this team with specter alter? i really wanna use her but don't know who i should replace

[celest bluff]

saria

You dont need healing if you just kill people

[narrow pendant]

Surtr or chong ig

[mental storm]

i like the way u think funny man

[viscid raft]

I finally beat 9-19 after struggling for awhile

[glossy drum]

saria for sure, if you want someone to hold enemies gavial can already do that really good

and eyja global + skalter psuedo global is already more than enough

Only one who really needs healing in your team is gavial and chong anyways, wisadel is immortal and typhon is unlikely to die because you deploy her first so gavial is the one who is gonna tank stuff anyways

[celest bluff]

Just kill

[smoky halo]

is4 ed4 boss

[nocturne cove]

14-17

What do I do

[celest bluff]

If people can cook up a well prepared strat

No matter how tough the stat stick is

It gonna die

[narrow pendant]

Whats that, laser party?

[nocturne cove]

Uh flying object something something kill my ops

[narrow pendant]

Well u just, kill

The big things absorb dmg

The smaller balls shoot lasers

[nocturne cove]

Smaller balls

:ireneastonished:

[narrow pendant]

U can use someone like zuo(think u habe him) to on top of the smaller ones

To block them frrom being charged

[keen kettle]

How to clear 14-21?

[nocturne cove]

Oh on top left?

[narrow pendant]

Theresa takes 90% reduced dmg from anything thats in front of her balls, u need to use your opps to block said balls, and burst her down like that

[narrow pendant]

Ye

[keen kettle]

I have E2lvl40 Walter still couldn't lol

[supple mountain]

@sullen rover i got the basic idea down just have to work on leaks 🫡 thank u

[nocturne cove]

In front of her balls

😭😭💅

[narrow pendant]

Hilarious

Grow up nas

Smh

[mental storm]

alright thx

[leaden linden]

you know its hard because kyo says its hard for him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrPjMXX8EAU

[nocturne cove]

No I wanna be a kid again

Carefree

[vernal lion]

yea, you will need mod3 Wis

[nocturne cove]

Hello naga

[vernal lion]

lacking dmg

[supple mountain]

scary

[vernal lion]

so mod3 is required

this is promising, just add some more dps, you still can beat this one easily

remember to bait the cocoon skill: If you see her hp is about 45% and she begins to move her arms up, retreat the ally that is the last deployment (in this case is Monster)

the frame is kinda long enough for you to act, so just play it slowly

[narrow pendant]

Or just bruteforce it like a chad

[vernal lion]

yea

[dark violet]

what about dorothy's second module. gain +1 mine when killing an enemy, and reduced redeploy time to 3 seconds.

[spark sinew]

i feel like it would be a dud

she really wants her current damage from current module

[dark violet]

alright, listen:

she can place mines on occupied tiles

wait no

[spark sinew]

that's already assuming that HG will make it "1 mine for 3 kills" or similar

[dark violet]

mines become critical ones after 10 seconds on the field

[vernal lion]

if you get tired of gambling dorothy's crit mine, then it

[scarlet mortar]

that's gonna fall off once enemies don't die in one mine

ignoring how it's a DP sink as well

[celest bluff]

up to like 3000-6000 damage on s2 mine

[dark violet]

she still has an autoattack

[scarlet mortar]

the current mod is buffing that

without it she'll fall off again

[celest bluff]

that have around 1k damage at max stack and fast aspd

[dapper hedge]

If she does get a 2nd mod then it'll be the no tile restrictions

[scarlet mortar]

that'd be kinda useless for S2

and arguably negligible for S3

[dark violet]

wha

doesn't that make it permastall

isn't it super broken

[scarlet mortar]

i assume tile restrictions as in ela's ground/ranged one

[dark violet]

oh

yeah no way that's what she gets

it's useless

unless

it gives range to the mines

[scarlet mortar]

if it's whether you can place them on the same tile as the enemy, ehhhhhh

[smoky halo]

it will make s3 funny chaining possible tho

[scarlet mortar]

it's still worse than the current effect imo

[smoky halo]

but ya i dont think its will provide much impact outside of memes

[scarlet mortar]

losing out on the 2x modifier hurts

[vernal lion]

imagine mine of ranged tile, that would still be fine

[dark violet]

lower damage, but at the same time you get more damage opportunity

[scarlet mortar]

not really

[dark violet]

and she's still useful when the enemy is stopped

[scarlet mortar]

most of the time she can already hit as many enemies as you want

[dark violet]

that could work fine

[dark violet]

never enough

[scarlet mortar]

you just want more damage so you waste less mines on the same crowd

[vernal lion]

I think it will be good for IS, unless you want to farm atk for her

[scarlet mortar]

broadly speaking, it's not like it'll allow you to stall twice as many mobs

and she's strictly limited by her mine regen

more damage -> more mines conserved

[vernal lion]

also, you forgot the purpose of the mine

or you want to nuke enemy, or you want to crowd control them

[scarlet mortar]

doro's strength comes from being able to do both, really

[dark violet]

it's more relevant when going for solo dorothy

[scarlet mortar]

stalling to clump up more enemies to then deal damage to them

[dark violet]

she would work better as a team player with that mod

[scarlet mortar]

in IS specifically the damage is padded

[vernal lion]

for elite enemy, she may not kill them with few mines

or that may not her job

[dark violet]

being able to permastall a boss with mines is insane

lacking the extra damage isn't as relevant

[scarlet mortar]

i mean, sure? but the alternative here doesn't make up for what the current mod provides

[dark violet]

though you can run out at some point, that's the only way to not make it way too broken

[vernal lion]

so like, what do you think about Eben 3rd mod

[scarlet mortar]

S2 mines lose a lot of their stalling capacity once a second mob walks around

[dark violet]

yes?

[vernal lion]

it said like dorothy is the only soloing one here, I assume

you may be right about that

[dark violet]

she'd still be able to drop the mines right on the middle

it's just a different way to use her kit

[scarlet mortar]

i just think that there're already very strong alternatives to doing that

[dark violet]

like what?

[scarlet mortar]

ethan + FRD throwing

[vernal lion]

a stalling, a pusher with dorothy

[scarlet mortar]

or well, just doro S2 as is

[dark violet]

that's not really related I think?

the discussion is about a second doro module and what it could do

[scarlet mortar]

if we're assuming decent conditions where you can clear out other mobs, then 5s of bind is very good already

ignoring how it's also possible rn to permastall with S2 + FRD throwing

[scarlet mortar]

i'm not saying the idea is bad, i'm saying it could be better

[dark violet]

fair

but yeah, if we're looking at the alt for trapmasters, the baseline would be to allow dorothy deployment on melee tiles, and ranged tile mines

[scarlet mortar]

if her mines were like 2 DP/3s rdp they'd be cycling like merchants

[dark violet]

then I guess giving an extra 4 adjacent range for mine explosion could work?

[scarlet mortar]

Xmod is still free to use

[dark violet]

it's sorta the same as placing on enemies

would be weird for s1 though

[dark violet]

oh right, I didn't notice, I guess now we have 3 module variants for 6*

[scarlet mortar]

lmao S1 would probs require you to eye how close the enemy is to the tile center

[dark violet]

it'd probably target the enemy triggering it, would need to guess which is closer

[scarlet mortar]

now that i think of it doro's mines are kinda bugged rn

[dark violet]

there is a bug when you deploy a mine near an enemy hitbox blocked slightly inside

[scarlet mortar]

if you place them while an enemy enters the tile they can get softlocked

yh

[dark violet]

it makes the mine count as triggered until the enemy leaves the box

so other enemies walk through it

it's very very easy to notice in the IS prison map

[scarlet mortar]

the prisoner's night baptism

[dark violet]

starting with doro mine on the left of the blockade, the mine 100% will not work until enemies die or break the blockade to move away

[scarlet mortar]

i swear i've known abt it for ages but i still manage to place it there

[dark violet]

I still do it

[scarlet mortar]

[dark violet]

not like there's other spots to fill while waiting the kills

[analog marlin]

is theresa 14-21 stun gimmick is rng?

[narrow pendant]

No, not really

It starts at the corner and spreads every set interval

Theresa herself applies the cocoon to the last deployed op at around 50% hp

You have like, 5 minutes to win, otherwise they cover the entirety of right side and its game over

[dark violet]

but yeah, looking at the y and delta modules, I guess x mod for trapmasters could be something like "gain 0.25sp/s when a trap is on the field" and get -20% mine rdp time or something

[nocturne cove]

thanks

i didnt even realize there was a tile there

[vernal lion]

you can bypass the cocoon that she applies on your op by retreating the last redeploy op (or the most taunt one like Mlynar)

[dark violet]

gravel op

since the start

[muted elbow]

Lingering trials failed, but I think it's cause I need a better spot for W'isadel and to use Logos S3 instead

also no modules on literally anyoyne

[vocal leaf]

waiting for mod is painful

i want to see how faster logos mod can make my maleknights speedrun

[vernal lion]

I think 27/91 is the check for speedrun

don't think you can do it faster

[blissful wolf]

Question about this chapter 9 H-6 stage. Is there a way to knock down the left most pillar downwards?

[vernal lion]

you mean this?

[blissful wolf]

yeah

[vernal lion]

I think only the enemy flamethrower can

[blissful wolf]

Darn....alright, thanks.

[rich crow]

Can somebody guide me to clear this stage? Is3

Nah cleared it anyway

[vernal lion]

hint, the boss will get fragile itself when you let it move on the environmental tile, for this one is originium tile

[dark violet]

you just want to block like that

then remove the bottom block when the boss has passed

[spark sinew]

yeah don't anger the other enemies...

[vernal lion]

oh yea, I forgot trapmaster weakness is stealth enemy

[dark violet]

stealth, dp down, and blocked tiles

[vernal lion]

[nocturne cove]

theresa

doesnt

die

for some reason

omg

like

[scarlet mortar]

you need someone to tank the dust to disable her DR

[nocturne cove]

SA LOGOS GG AND ELA WITH GRZMOT FRAGILE ARE ALL ATTACKING AND SHE JUST DANCES THERE

nearl works?

[sullen rover]

probably

i used surtr s1

[scarlet mortar]

as long as there's no dust between her and the damage source

since it gives her like 90% DR

[dark violet]

isn't that what we wished for last event?

[scarlet mortar]

clueless

[dark violet]

babel: nooo, don't die!
chapter 14: DIE DIE DIE

wow, flametail s3 vs soul maelstrom is very funny

she's standing there, menacingly

[glass monolith]

Base update and rosmintis attack air was on my wish list

[dark violet]

interesting, I thought she was going to die but I guess it was just a free dorothy tile

[glass monolith]

I hate those drones

[dark violet]

with dorothy mines and gladiia s3 I have enough crowd control to not be bothered

and skalter s3 of course

[glass monolith]

Don't worry, you will

[nocturne cove]

What am I doing wrong

In the first phase Zuo le was stunned

I use plat to tranfer it to herself

In second phase

And Zuo le stunned again

[dark violet]

not using lumen?

or is it a special stun

[glass monolith]

Don't you need to like break that stun bubble or something?

[nocturne cove]

Special

Yeah

[vocal leaf]

place her further

[compact shoal]

Using ptilo and stainless s2 to charge waltuh is rather fun. She barely have time for offskill, can wait to add sui sp buff in the mix

[dark violet]

sui trying to push the gang synergy

but I have AH already

[nocturne cove]

Uhm

[vocal leaf]

move ela some tiles to the left, remember that the cocoon start spreading from that op, that’s why you want it as far as possible

[muted elbow]

if I wanted an AoE arts guard to borrow for cleanup, who'd be recommended

[dark violet]

surtr?

she's like the posterchild

[vernal lion]

can you just, retreat the op before the cocoon tho

it's easy to do

[muted elbow]

aighty

[dark violet]

well, I guess it depends what you mean by aoe

she hits in a straight line

[hasty willow]

I uh.. won by just 30 enemies?

I mean p2

[vernal lion]

yes, it's boss gimmick

[hasty willow]

Ok

[vernal lion]

you won as long as she died

[hasty willow]

You won when using amiya

[dark violet]

just like in babel

[hasty willow]

And chimera to get her to p2

[vocal leaf]

is it possible to see the 91 enemies?

[nocturne cove]

Is it good?

[vernal lion]

I think you will lose when you see 91 enemies

[full terrace]

Wisadel E1S2 can perfect Emergency Beasts Awaiting Slaughter 😂

Broken much

[hasty willow]

So theyre gonna see 91 enemies?

[vocal leaf]

should be fine, now time to burst the boss

[vernal lion]

actually, the leftover later is just the fidgets that will come to heal Theresa

[nocturne cove]

Zuo le and SA owned

Thanks

I shouldn't read this if I haven't been updated with the story right?

[vernal lion]

whatever

now do secret ending

[dusk schooner]

anyone help with 9-19? i don't understand how to beat the boss

[nocturne cove]

They shouldn't make stages like these

Amiya killed theresa

And now I'm spoiled

[dusk schooner]

they said it'll include spoilers, thats your own fault

[vernal lion]

boss has damage reduction
pillar fall over the boss, boss loses damage reduction
end.

[dusk schooner]

the 2nd phase tho

[remote perch]

kill phase 1 with the usual thing you do with boss
for phase 2, let her walk in the middle and throw the pillars over her

[vernal lion]

it is too

[dusk schooner]

oh i see ty

[nocturne cove]

Condition?

[glass monolith]

Reminds me when I was skipping lore, and I decided to read "summary" part. And part was like "Damatzi kill this NPC".

[dark violet]

another solution is to use true damage and forego mechanics

fartooth s3 go peew

[vernal lion]

Amiya in 14-18

[pure orchid]

Whats 9-19

[remote perch]

mandroga

the cat

[glass monolith]

How do I know if I done shit correctly?

[pure orchid]

Lmao just use funni rock

[vernal lion]

forget about standard or adverse

both work

[dark violet]

yeah, that part got fixed

I guess I'll replace ceobe for amiya for those maps

[glass monolith]

No I mean like. Nothing appear at stage after fulfilling it? Just go 14-23 and face check?

[dark violet]

btw

[vernal lion]

if you've done it right, EG-6 will appear

[glass monolith]

I read text. I bring Bun. Bun died to "0/4 enemies btw". I won.

[vernal lion]

read 14-22, or no medicmiya

[dark violet]

it's like we're back to chapter 8

en can't read is the toughest boss

[radiant quartz]

Theresa's mechanic was so annoying to deal with, that even with reading, it still felt damn difficult to beat

Theresa's mechanic just sucks ass :(

or maybe it's because my first experience with the boss is on Adverse

[dark violet]

can't wait to suffer

[vernal lion]

just remember:

1. outside her balls = deal only 10% dmg
2. lose a certain of hp = summon cocoon on a op that will disarm it
3. phase 2 in and you need to kill her quickly

[keen gull]

I just place 9 operators around her to gangbang nuke her lol

[nocturne cove]

Is Eg-6 the secret ending

.

[vernal lion]

joke you, it's just a hidden secret, not secret ending

[radiant quartz]

yeah Phase 2 was where I kept failing. Those stupid drones are stupidly annoying to deal with. Fuck those drones.

[nocturne cove]

We can get only one pot of CE rn?

[radiant quartz]

Is there even a way to kill Theresa Phase 2 while prolonging the stage to all enemies?

[radiant quartz]

3 pots actually

[vernal lion]

3 tho

[radiant quartz]

Do Hidden Front

[nocturne cove]

No cuz tile spread fucks you

[static moon]

A bit late to say this, but I forgot that its ok to use a friend support in CM stages, and I finally managed to clear BB S 4 with a lvl 90 Chalter. Thanks my whale friend.

[radiant quartz]

Yeah, I thought so.

[modest pewter]

does anyone have any video guide on Tides of War Month 3 ? i remember back then there is a creator that has afk strat with no base build on it he did the Month 1 and 2 afk strat, i forgot who it was can someone double check me on that? i cant find it on my history either ( this is about reclamation algorithm 2 ) Never Mind found it

[supple mountain]

[willow nacelle]

That red stage is cursed freaking blood tornado kill my entire team

[spark sinew]

just bait it?

[leaden linden]

overkill go brrr

[willow nacelle]

Those white robe guys are fucking fast

[leaden linden]

who would've think e2 wisadel, lin adn built ela is easy

[spark sinew]

show the stage layout, maybe i'm misremembering?

[scarlet mortar]

it's the one where wraiths spawn from the left and travel through a tunnel to the right side

then they nab the altar and spiral dash to the blue box

#strategy message

[willow nacelle]

This stage with red mode

Always bring virtousa on this stage to slow all of them

[leaden linden]

mlynar you can use him on this stage

[willow nacelle]

Need to kill those robes guy before they touch the tornado devices

[cyan gorge]

Just push the beacon and kill the robed guys before they steal it

[keen gull]

U can use fast redeploy and kill the guys that bring the beacon to the middle of the map and kill everyone

[willow nacelle]

I don't have texalter.
Only I use flametail

[keen gull]

Dem

Brrw a wisadel and clear it

Just dont let the storm get u

[willow nacelle]

I'll put degen where they spawn then spam skill

To kill those fast

[somber mist]

U can just pull the device on the blue box

[supple mountain]

i borrowed some guys wisadel for this

also i just used gladiia to drag tje altar out of the way

[willow nacelle]

Zamn

[severe venture]

idk how did I win but ok.

[celest bluff]

true damage?

[lapis hornet]

you auto win once she goes p3

well like 5-10 seconds into p3

[celest bluff]

and the stun doesnt work on monst3r?

[vernal lion]

nah, it just didn't get to it yet

enough luck

[lapis hornet]

just surtr it or smth

[dapper hedge]

I think I cleared it when it was just 51/91 or smt lol

[tulip nimbus]

do drones of drone casters inherit the attack interval of their caster

ie does golden glow's drones have an attack interval of 1.3 seconds

[fast smelt]

I am.... Cooked

[dapper hedge]

Just put wis & gummy on the corner left

[spark sinew]

logos is not the best support (or even good one) at e1

for this stage you want to kill ergates coming from the left

[fast smelt]

They all just killed themselves

[steep barn]

So 14-21, Theresa's cage cannot be destroyed? Only transferred?
Is there a limit to how many of those cages can exist?

[eager turtle]

what to do on 14-21 when the ground breaks?

[little ravine]

the cocoon is only spawned on the 8 tiles surrodning theresa and it requires an op to be on one of those tiles, so as long as you are dpsing theresa from range she will never create the cocoon. That said there is a limit of like 50 cages at which you fail the map

[steep barn]

If I don't have an op there she creates cocoons from the right side of the screen. I somehow managed to kill her and won the stage with 86/91 enemies killed? I don't get this stage, it doesn't seem to do what it says

[spark sinew]

stage ends as soon as you damage theresa enough

[steep barn]

So that's the actual objective? Dealing damage to Theresa?

[spark sinew]

yeah

you can even clear it on 26 enemies killed i think

[steep barn]

Can I cheese this stage with NTRK? She's forced to retreat, will the cocoon stay there and spread out or destroyed?

[leaden linden]

Works

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