strategy

[smoky laurel]

although i would prefer vigil

[next wigeon]

Not quite

[noble pewter]

what r ur other snipers?

[next wigeon]

Exusiai for them

[noble pewter]

other than her im wondering

[next wigeon]

The place they are idling in has an inconvenient placement

[celest solstice]

NOOO

S1 is doable, ex

[celest bluff]

Crownslayer as Executor specialist

About the damn time

[mild wind]

is there splitboxing here somehow

the slider mfs should have dodge disabled in transverse tile but for some reason theyre still fucking dodging

dragging me into bringing more vanguard to start

wait was it tile or chain

[glad forge]

chain.

[mild wind]

then my chain didnt somehow reach them

[celest solstice]

I liedf

[mild wind]

do i have to like

[next wigeon]

Hush better delete this

[mild wind]

deploy when they in middle

[novel zephyr]

No but it’s possible to one cycle with Horn + 2 ambushers and stablizer chain

[mild wind]

splitbox cucking me now

[smoky laurel]

below kroos there's only e0

[novel zephyr]

Wtf why is krros 0

Kokodayomf

[smoky laurel]

my first 6 star from recruitment was exusiai

[novel zephyr]

[smoky laurel]

i have her since my very beginnings

it was like after i completed first chapter

then i got top operator and bam

exusiai

also i used jessica more than kroos too

didn't find use of 3 stars except like

beagle, ansel

hibiscus

[next wigeon]

Ignore me panicking @smoky laurel

The steps are roughly the same as the 1st run I showed you

I really wish I have saria tbh

I wanna know if Saria S3 is better than S1

[smoky laurel]

it is

it definetly is

at least in my opinion

s2 is so slow

[next wigeon]

S1 I mean whoops

Misclicked

[smoky laurel]

depends on the situation then

[next wigeon]

I mean in this situation

S1 is generally better

But I feel like S3 could work?

My Hoshi isn't tanky enough

[next wigeon]

What Mod lvl is your Hoshi?

Mine was on E2 Lvl60 S2M3 Mod1 and died

[smoky laurel]

mine doesn't has mastery at all

[next wigeon]

Hmm I think she'll be fine right?

[smoky laurel]

if yours died with all that, how would that make my situation better?

[next wigeon]

Hoshi died to the last 4 Capybaras

[smoky laurel]

mine died to the 2nd capybaras

[next wigeon]

I think I'm cooking

The Capybaras need to trip

Wait a moment

I don't think Ceobe or her placement is that important to you

[noble pewter]

wait u havent tried my strat or it failed?

[smoky laurel]

no thats a previous try

[next wigeon]

I think Hoshi first then Mlynar

Mlynar is actually enough to kill things

[noble pewter]

so did my https://youtu.be/t6TptrsZwcI?feature=shared work for u?

[next wigeon]

I forgot you had Mlynar

Can't emulate using a Mlynar tho

Since I don't have one

[smoky laurel]

haven't tried it yet cause kinda busy

[ebon zephyr]

@glad forge

[next wigeon]

Imma try something

[ebon zephyr]

Is it for me

[keen gull]

Whats actually the prob here

[ebon zephyr]

S1 cm and s4 cm

[regal frost]

wow level 80 highmore

[ebon zephyr]

Don't freaking braindead me just mlynar and chains I don't need that

[keen gull]

U can fast redeploy for weaver

[ebon zephyr]

I'm going to mod3 her too soon, she's already m3

[keen gull]

Those thing annoying as hell

[regal frost]

no ela?

[ebon zephyr]

Yato can't kill weaver

[glad forge]

what vg u got

[ebon zephyr]

I got Ines, bagpipe, myrtle

[glad forge]

Ines s2m3? S3m3?

[ebon zephyr]

S2m3

[keen gull]

Is weaver the big problem?

[ebon zephyr]

On s1 cm yes

[keen gull]

If u say assasin ill say mlynar

[glad forge]

lemme try

[ebon zephyr]

I didn't

[keen gull]

U can deploy a penace that is chained but not chained to,to block them

Then brute force it

[ebon zephyr]

I kinda want the trimmed medal it's gonna be my first trimmed

I wasted like over 42 drills on s1 cm

[noble hollow]

S1 cm is low key harder then s4

[shrewd hound]

s1 felt a lot harder than s4

S4 at least u can plan a clean strat but s1 looked like a huge mess assassins and weavers coming from all sides

[glad forge]

does this look doable for u?

U can borrow texalter if u need more panik button

[timid schooner]

how its feels when experience h8-4 in 2024

[celest bluff]

Where did Tal died

[timid schooner]

last shu green tile at bottom

[ebon zephyr]

I have them but will the level not matter?

[vivid rain]

what are the levels

[ebon zephyr]

I have majority of mine at 60, Myrtle is s1m2

[next wigeon]

Brain is mush rn

[ebon zephyr]

Am so drained

[glad forge]

let me try again and make it a bit more consistent

[next wigeon]

Why not use Exusiai btw?

Just curious

[regal frost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1195063400036827226/1299746347318116425/36B0CA0E-1922-4D51-9F78-E8E61E91A740.png?ex=671e529d&is=671d011d&hm=33824dbb9dbda44bd49a1beb388f0c63cae16331d8c7ed7c48c8d284c5183b77&

does this work for 9-10?

[next wigeon]

9-10?

[regal frost]

lap and Texas should be enough for the golems right?

yeah

trying to help someone

[next wigeon]

I can't check rn since farming

[regal frost]

one sec

[next wigeon]

Brain Mush, Head Empty, Life Fulfilled

[glad forge]

uh mines like maxed out

[next wigeon]

Oh this

I remember using Tifon

[ebon zephyr]

Mine is s3m1

[next wigeon]

Fair enough

[keen gull]

I mlynar spawncamped them

[regal frost]

they don't wanna borrow cause they wanna farm 9-10 lol

[hasty pebble]

my team is a joke apparently

[vernal lion]

now wait till duo wisadel ng

[timid schooner]

ye

just wait imma get logos and those fireballs will be a joke

[vernal lion]

oh wait, still need logos

[timid schooner]

ye

[vernal lion]

that's still trio

[timid schooner]

s3

[next wigeon]

Oh

[regal frost]

save me

pls

[vivid rain]

interesting sash placement

[next wigeon]

Take responsibility

[vivid rain]

actually it's uninteresting sash placement

[regal frost]

the squad

[scarlet mortar]

oh you can pillar the two gargoyles that go to the left btw

[celest solstice]

halp me wtf is this in cm? MY STRAT DOESNT WORK

heres my stuff, https://krooster.com/u/RamminRam

[regal frost]

they don't have the braincells to do that

[ebon zephyr]

Lmao, cursed s1 cm

[next wigeon]

Just copy a guide and pretend it yours

[celest solstice]

my stuff gets farted by the cutters

[scarlet mortar]

it's brain cells or 💳 out here

[regal frost]

I made it so brain dead for them

[ebon zephyr]

Vigil angle

[regal frost]

yeah the only vanguard they use are vigil and blacknight

[celest solstice]

can someone help me

[next wigeon]

I would if I could but apparently I'm out of practice vouchers

[glad forge]

ok i think i got it pretty consistent, penance might NEED to be maxed out, u can just borrow one

[regal frost]

this is still too hard apparently

[whole sand]

I can tell you where I placed some of the units you have but you're missing some of my core ops I used for this

the weavers are the most annoying part for this stage and you should generally try to burst them down asap, you have some pretty strong ranged dps units so you could snipe them from afar

[celest solstice]

cause like, Im very reliant on mizuki's chain for everything related in the south

[whole sand]

yeah that's a good placement for him, it's where I placed ascalon

[next wigeon]

Wtf

[stiff beacon]

I absolutely hate my life, copying a guide still took me time since the timing was insane, any tips on the second and third challenge?

[whole sand]

i'd suggest placing degenbrecher near him so her s3 can reach all 3 lanes once enemies pile up

[next wigeon]

It looks incredibly simple tho

[celest solstice]

I just mostly need to keep the south and south west and middle cutters dead

[next wigeon]

There's no crazy micro or anything

How tf is that hard

[celest solstice]

I have degen on bottom of spawn point

[stiff beacon]

Bro it took me more than an hour to do

[regal frost]

they're saying I have masteries and they don't so they won't even attempt it

[next wigeon]

9-10?

[vernal lion]

wrong mention

[next wigeon]

?????????????

What

[stiff beacon]

Oh sorry I thought you were scoffing at me

[regal frost]

they have 50 million excuses

[whole sand]

how do you deal with the assassins and weavers on the left center of the map though, can you burst them down fast enough?

[vernal lion]

bro with 9-10, other bro with cc stage

[next wigeon]

Oh I didn't notice the CC clear

[glad forge]

There's one last step which is to put someone behind penance for the last assassin @ebon zephyr

[next wigeon]

Congratulations anyways

[celest solstice]

better if I show what I use and stream the placements, its weird

its like... uh

[whole sand]

I think Ray and Yato should be able to deal with the weavers if positioned correctly, Ray that is

[celest solstice]

I burst then burst then burst

[whole sand]

sure

[celest solstice]

Ill go to rhine lab ig

[stiff beacon]

Thanks, the first skin challenge felt brutal

[whole sand]

your roster looks better at burst than mine so you should have an easier time i think

[celest solstice]

yeah I do have generally easier time bursting

[ebon zephyr]

I was lost on the second ss, what happened

[bronze shale]

Is there any clears of BB S1 CM with no 6 star operators

[glad forge]

probably is

[celest solstice]

Im in vc of rhine lab hq rn

[bronze shale]

Struggling to do it without any 6 star burst options

Tank and damage requirements are pretty high

[glad forge]

what u have

[bronze shale]

I can clear it if I use my mlynar

Just wondering if anyone has done it without 6 stars

[next wigeon]

Not having Masteries is no excuse

[wide sail]

almost every stage without bonkers stats like dos s3 is clearable with 4* if u try really hard

[next wigeon]

If some random bozo can do without Masteries then they could too

[hasty pebble]

dev's simulator, then they buffed enemies)

[ebon zephyr]

Damn congrats

[glad forge]

Motts

[sullen rover]

who ordered a yappachino

[celest solstice]

yeah I died

[whole sand]

yeahh I think losing mizuki was a major blow to your strat here

[celest solstice]

I changed it up with typhon up, but usually shes looking left right of degen

[celest solstice]

thats the thing, EVERYTHING relies on Mizuki

[whole sand]

also, degen's placement above mizuki would be better I think because she could target all incoming enemies no?

I can send a sc of what I did if you want

[celest solstice]

true

[noble pewter]

https://youtu.be/Hs8Wsd9OiNM?feature=shared here, but my strat will assume u borrow a bagpipe but u can actually borrow an ines even better perhaps, i dont have ines, typhon, spalter, mlynar so hard for me simulate better conditions for u

quite afk friendly after setup, just press gavalter skill if scared she gonna die, then rotate w/ ptilopsis skill if she gonna die again

[celest solstice]

Ima try something rn

[whole sand]

those placements changed near the end of the level but i didn't really struggle aside from redeploying some units here and there

ray 😭

[celest solstice]

no I mis calculated

[whole sand]

did you try linking ray and virtuosa's chains?

[celest solstice]

I tried but I forgot ray was first

[regal frost]

they did it now they're farming 9-11 for exp

[celest solstice]

Im taking inspiration from yours

[whole sand]

maybe you could try to set up ray on the right side? I originally started with placing Ela there

facing left

[next wigeon]

See, No Masteries is no excuse

[whole sand]

I had ines so that was quite useful when it came to the killing assassins faster

also, virtuosa can deal with the flying guys by herself

[celest solstice]

IK

[hasty pebble]

here we go

[celest solstice]

damn it

[whole sand]

that was very solid, gj

[celest solstice]

well first I forgot Typhon existed

I admit that

[whole sand]

i think i know what happened, you want to have a defender (preferably a tanky one) between where you placed reed and lin

[celest solstice]

yes

[whole sand]

so they can block the assassin's damage without reaching degen

[celest solstice]

which was eunectes, but I forgot she has single block

so shes shit

[whole sand]

and degen's s3 can still reach them

yeah maybe change eunectes to something else

also, you placed eyja very well at some point

where she connected to degen

a nice substitute for mizuki

[celest solstice]

I forgot about the flyers

[whole sand]

yeah i noticed, it's an annoying stage, you gotta worry about so many lanes

[celest solstice]

I think I have an idea

which will 100% not work

[whole sand]

gravel sweep

[celest solstice]

but Im going to try it anyway

[olive tendon]

do I have to make sure all the command terminals aren't destroyed in lungmen commercial district?

i only aim for a 400/400 clear

[celest solstice]

nop

just dont die to it

[olive tendon]

alright

[celest solstice]

nope didnt work

[whole sand]

very good job with gravel + ray tho

[celest solstice]

Im going to scream at this stage

[whole sand]

are you using ray's s3? I don't know her kit very well but can her summonable animal make her target a specific enemy?

[unkempt summit]

High, new(ish) player here, just wanted to ask about what Operators are good Arts Tanks for 4-6 Challenge mode?

[whole sand]

i can't rn cause im at a friend's house 😭

[celest solstice]

I tried @glad forge

Mizuki was my core when I did this non-cm

yes mizuki gets cut, and everything dies

[unkempt summit]

Oh

[celest solstice]

well... reed

[unkempt summit]

Wait why didnt I think of dodge?

[celest solstice]

Illl chat in rhine lab chat

[whole sand]

I think ray should clean up the capybaras by herself with little support from typhon

so they can't reach degen

[pine grail]

If I need to kill a fuck load of Low Def enemies from a ranged tile (BB-S-2)
Besides Exusiai S3, who else do I really need in that squad that isn't Wis'adel

[vivid rain]

Do you have like uh
Ela

Btw neat trick you can slow the drones down with chain

[pine grail]

Not built
I'm effectiveley asking which Support should I bring

[vivid rain]

Typhon or ela imo

[pine grail]

I cleared the Normal with BP but something tells me that CM won't work with her

[vivid rain]

There might be better support but they should be the easiest to use

[pine grail]

Alright, Ela it is!
Since I actually already tried Typhon, I leak Drones

[vivid rain]

Although if you have sufficient ranged units to kill straggling drones already, i would prob consider bringing mlynar instead to burst dense waves

[zealous geyser]

is dusk worth upgrading

[scarlet mortar]

if you're asking, no not really

she's not unusable but won't be carrying you

there're cheaper ops for that

[stiff beacon]

@next wigeon I cooked, do you consider me decent?

honestly not raising spot/myrtle/plume did make my life much harder since i had to play around with placement order and stuff to get things started

spot: lower dp cost
myrtle: generates more burst dp at the start
plume: can solo left bottom, fang and courier can't

i played around this by placing ely then fang for bottom left. Third placement is Bassline (18 dp cost since i have pot 3, nearl is 19 dp actually too slow to block without pot) to block top right then. After all that you need to place down courier to help fang, and retreat fang when the fireball is about to kill fang (if you retreat fang too early courier will die before killing the second enemy). After that ely should be about to activate his s1 the second time and you have to place exu first then lancer, if you place lancer first you might leak flying spawner and i will do a loop instead of dying there.

I believe i could be possible to take nearl out but the timing would be much more tighter at the end

i would of tried theory crafting but i don't have the time for it, honestly i had to look around for different guides to learn from since my opening was much more strict

[spark sinew]

is exu really the best sup to use

not sure what the map is though, can't read

oh if it's normal it doesn't matter, it's max reward already isn't it

[stiff beacon]

debatable but since i didn't have pinecone it was probably the best i could use for right side

also no friend had tyhoon so uhh

[spark sinew]

tw players have good taste theory

[stiff beacon]

thank you

honestly I might actually raise a charger (vigna since no ine) since the more i look the more useful they seem (for low rarity)

[spark sinew]

they're pretty broken

just higher rarity has a lot of good shit, so using 1 slot hurts

[tidal sedge]

Vigna is pretty decent, she hits really hard

[stiff beacon]

yeah, i suppose they aren't "meta", but good enough for me

[spark sinew]

full refund/or even 80% refund are, in general

[stiff beacon]

oh wait fang and courier don't have full refund

man, i'm coping

why did i only notice that now

[spark sinew]

mod is also super good

[stiff beacon]

yeah i'll raise vigna after getting some xp

[spark sinew]

although idr if vigna has that one

[stiff beacon]

yeah she does even at e0

[spark sinew]

that's base dp cost E: original in-game

mod makes it into current

[stiff beacon]

oh wait, that's even more broken

[spark sinew]

strong for dp banking

[tidal sedge]

Only real problem with Vigna is 1 block, but she kills pretty good

[cinder pike]

that is pretty standard for her achetype

[stiff beacon]

my little red bean will be useful whenever i see plume is used i guess

[spark sinew]

vigna's problem is health inflation i feel

but not a 4* player so idk how she fares there

from clears i saw 4* just...stall

which doesn't do vigna any favors

[smoky laurel]

gavial died

right after skill ended

[tidal sedge]

Vigna's RNG talent is pretty good at E2, her Mod makes it better by a bunch

[stiff beacon]

tbh i don'y have myrlte raised but i assume she is much better at opening low dp CC than ely

[spark sinew]

is your ely trash pot?

[stiff beacon]

like my ely could barely keep up at the start

yeah pot 0

[spark sinew]

she costs less, gets ready earlier, but prints less per skill

so usually p6 ely is preferred over her if you can get away with it

[stiff beacon]

e1 level 50 (yes i occassionaly tank with him) rank 7 skills

[spark sinew]

especially since he has way better talent

[stiff beacon]

yeah, although from experience getting the setup running as fast as possible seems to be more useful than average dp generation

basically you have tighter start

[tidal sedge]

Can someone help me make a team?

[stiff beacon]

although i haven't tried high risk CC yet so i can't confirm this theory of mine

[spark sinew]

high risk it depends

[stiff beacon]

i honestly found it funny that an extra op without pot 1 would of broke my run lmao

[stiff beacon]

for what?

[tidal sedge]

Just a general team idk how to explain like a team that can be used for alot of stuff like events and story

[stiff beacon]

it really depends on the stage/event though?

[spark sinew]

i feel like they just slap all the flags and agents anyway, but if you can get away with using ely/sail over myrtle, you usually do that

[tidal sedge]

Can you tell me what characters i should level up then?

[stiff beacon]

like the virto event made caster like useless

[tidal sedge]

Alr lemme take pics of my ops

[stiff beacon]

oh people use sail?

[spark sinew]

i mean you can definitely bruteforce with 1 team, even if that teams is limited by niche

sail is the flag

[spark sinew]

12/13 ops allows you to just sac a couple slots generally

[stiff beacon]

damn, she has a really bad rep from most videos i watch

[tidal sedge]

Also i know its a shit level balance

[stiff beacon]

shu shu shu shu shu

[tidal sedge]

Anyone else?

[stiff beacon]

holy damn also has weedy

[tidal sedge]

Isnt weedy bad?

[spark sinew]

raise your base workers

[stiff beacon]

have you seen some of the stalls you can pull off with her?

[tidal sedge]

Why i gotta a feeling your like a absolute demon at strategies

[stiff beacon]

nah

[tidal sedge]

Knows every single inch of every single stage

Knows the speed every single enemy moves at

[stiff beacon]

no bro i still watch guides since i don't have time

[tidal sedge]

Anyway got any tips on who i should level up besides shu

[stiff beacon]

lappland is pretty good

[smoky laurel]

that failed too, not enough damage to kill bottom left line and eventually leaked

[stiff beacon]

i'm not very familar with some of the 6 stars though

[smoky laurel]

so anyway, someone got any ideas?

[stiff beacon]

try going to #help i think they would help with you more

[spark sinew]

lin shu ela zuo
but do base workers first

order is random, you can do it reversed

[tidal sedge]

Wdyn base workers?

Iike the ones that are best at working at base?

Which ones are those

[stiff beacon]

@spark sinew actually now i'm thinking of it if i was using the same placement order e1 vigna would break it since she cost 11 dp now

ow

[glad forge]

Zuole, Ela, Shu, Cutter, Perf, fang, Kroos, Lava, Humus, Cuora + 2

Very much so

[glad forge]

if u wait 10 min i can give it a try

[vital vessel]

you there dude?

[iron fractal]

[smoky laurel]

i was making my squad in the prts map, here's what i tried

oh right

i forgot about typhoon behind gavial

[vital vessel]

right i see the problem right away

[smoky laurel]

there

i tried gg facing up, right and all that but nothing worked

gavial dies to assassins, thats the only issue

[vital vessel]

how's your deployment order?

you know this event mechanic right? chains

[smoky laurel]

yeah

first chain is typhoon with gavial but at the start i use mountain for early defense then replace mountain with gavial

then gg with eyja

[vital vessel]

i don't see you using it here, and 3 blockers for left lane is too much

[smoky laurel]

prts map doesn't show chains

[vital vessel]

no i mean, you're not using it properly

[smoky laurel]

from what i've seen at least

[smoky laurel]

gg with eyja chain hits everything in front of mudrock

[clear flax]

Hes leaking on the left side thats y 3 blockers

[smoky laurel]

no thats not the issue

thorns and gg clear that just fine

[vital vessel]

do you want me to cook up a squad for you?

[clear flax]

Oh

[smoky laurel]

here are my operators
#strategy message

[clear flax]

Ur leaking on the bottom moddle?

[smoky laurel]

gavial dies to assassins when skill ends

mudrock holds it fine

everyone are doing fine except gavial

she just dies off skill

[clear flax]

When gavial dies deploy fast redeploys

[smoky laurel]

i did

[vital vessel]

also you should absolutely borrow horn

[smoky laurel]

it failed cause eventually those died too

[clear flax]

Yea maybe horn when gavial dies

[smoky laurel]

i don't have horn

[clear flax]

Deploy horn by the entrance bottom

[versed arrow]

I even tested it, deployment order myrtle -> saria ->eyja -> lancet at healer tile for chain -> retreat lancet and deploy healer -> typhon -> hoshi -> mud -> horn -> retreat myrtle -> mylnar

[smoky laurel]

i also used exusiai to destroy the top sentry

[vital vessel]

do you destroy every ballista on left side with thorns?

[smoky laurel]

no

yato alt

s2

[vital vessel]

okay

[clear flax]

Post ur full team

I wanna try

[smoky laurel]

#strategy message

[smoky laurel]

let me explain the order first

[vital vessel]

hoshi is s2m3 mod1?

[smoky laurel]

no

but she survives the assassins

thanks to saria

[glad forge]

do u really not have gladiia

[clear flax]

Im gonna make the same team, but te peoblem is my guys r level 80-90

[vital vessel]

that doesn't matter much

[smoky laurel]

i promoted her today

[clear flax]

Ok so im replacing mountain with….

[smoky laurel]

he's just there for early defense

also he managed to kill one assassin earlier due to the dodge lol

and somehow he wasn't taking that much damage from them

[vital vessel]

also you can borrow my horn, add me

[smoky laurel]

i have one but without module

[vital vessel]

s1m3?

didn't see horn in your pictures

[smoky laurel]

yeah mb

my friend has her without module

but m3

so

[versed arrow]

#strategy message so you tried yet? or are you still trying other strat? I am off to do other stuff if you are not trying

[smoky laurel]

i'll try it, give me a moment

[smoky laurel]

i would have her e2d by now if not this

[hazy sinew]

dont need picture spam

[smoky laurel]

is eyja s2?

[versed arrow]

mylnar skill on the 2nd guitar guy like mob that damages your ops on chain and when the first assassin are close to/tp pass saria

yes eyja s2

[smoky laurel]

what about lumen

and typhoon

[versed arrow]

s3 the only skill he uses

s2

[smoky laurel]

can't i use yato alt to destroy the ballista sentrys and make hoshi and mudrock face down?

[versed arrow]

you can use shining for healer too, I just picked a random healer from your pic

[hazy sinew]

you, as long as yato doesnt eat too much DP at the start since it seems a little tight at the start

[vital vessel]

this is what i came up with, gg and shining's chain is isolated here

[hazy sinew]

i suppose saria will hold well while yato does her thing

[smoky laurel]

i can use mountain and just retreat him later

like i did earlier

and it worked

[hazy sinew]

then go for it

[versed arrow]

you can try but you sure you have the dp to deploy everything in time? plus hoshi facing down is not going to do much more damage anyway

[vital vessel]

i suppose you don't have nightingale?

[smoky laurel]

saria died in a single hit to the lancers

[smoky laurel]

no lol

i can pull for her from kernel

[versed arrow]

did you remember to deploy lancet for chain?

[hazy sinew]

#strategy message

[smoky laurel]

i got everyone in place

whats the strat now?

when mlynar skill?

[versed arrow]

you know the mob that damage your ops on chain? the first one should be killed easy so activate on the 2nd one then later on the assassins

[smoky laurel]

so 2nd weaver?

or guitar guy?

[versed arrow]

the guitar guy

[smoky laurel]

didn't work, spatula guy walked right through on 1 hp

[smoky laurel]

the one in this screenshot lol

he just walked in right after unpause

[clear flax]

I replaced someone witg ines. Think u can borrow ines. The run wasnt perfect but i think it can be if i changed the deployment order

[glad forge]

u still stuck?

[clear flax]

Also i didnt use mudrock but maybe she would be better

[smoky laurel]

better instead of who

[smoky laurel]

yeah

[vital vessel]

so deployment order is mountain -> shining -> gg -> mudrock, retreat mountain, eyja -> hoshi -> spalter -> horn -> typhon, deploy flag before mountain

[clear flax]

Oh i think i did use mudrock at the end

[clear flax]

Watch the video and make adjustments i guess

[smoky laurel]

shining and gg s2 right

[vital vessel]

shining s3 preferably, idk if she can heal gg and herself from guitar reliably without skill

[clear flax]

Oh shit the video didnt save

Inswear it did

Oh it did save. I failed the first run

[vital vessel]

did you do it already? horn is literally the bane of this stage's assassin

[clear flax]

Hahah

Oh it didnt save!

[smoky laurel]

no flag vanguard at the start?

[clear flax]

1 sex lemme do it again

[hazy sinew]

@vital vessel he tried with horn

[smoky laurel]

but not his strat

[vital vessel]

"deploy flag before mountain"

[hazy sinew]

oh

real

[versed arrow]

somehow he fails at weird sections, I am currently booting up game to use my last 6 plans to check. pretty sure the weaver was dead in my run

[smoky laurel]

the weaver isn't an issue

what is the issue are assassins and spatula giants somehow managing to survive the chains

[vital vessel]

you lack dps probably

[smoky laurel]

with the strat i came up with, gg and thorns cleared bottom left easily

with typhoon too

its just that gavial alt died to assassins and then i failed

[versed arrow]

oh so the left side is the prob? typhon is in charge of dps-ing that side or that was my plan, eyja is just nice bonus damage

[smoky laurel]

no, the bottom

gavial dies at assassins

[glad forge]

@smoky laurel i think u have the units right?

[vital vessel]

doesn't have ascalon i think

[smoky laurel]

no ascalon

[glad forge]

borrow

[smoky laurel]

no eyja alt

[glad forge]

she doesnt matter

perfumer or silence

can work

im just using her for healing the left side occationally

so long as asca has regen/some healing sometimes

its fine

[smoky laurel]

i haven't even tried femns strat

[vital vessel]

will you try my strat or that a1 guy first

gg, eyja caster, spalter are s2

[hazy sinew]

just try it

[vital vessel]

so with spalter doll cc and 2 chain on mid lane, you'd slow people enough you'll do fine even if a few assassin leak from horn

[smoky laurel]

gg and shining died to guitar guy

s3 ain't enough

[vital vessel]

damn lumen then

or shining s2

[versed arrow]

typhon was supposed to kill those, my typhon was s2m3 mod3 if it makes a difference

[vital vessel]

you can change mudrock to thorns facing up too for guitar dps if gg is not enough

[versed arrow]

good luck anyway, I ran out of practice plans for the day to test run so I am off to do other things

[glad forge]

@smoky laurel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj3CMhDK16M I will leave this here if you need it

[smoky laurel]

now suddenly spatula giant walked through on 1 hp again

[vital vessel]

spalter doll cc not enough?

[smoky laurel]

you mean when she dies?

[vital vessel]

yea

[smoky laurel]

how is she supposed to die

[vital vessel]

s2

[smoky laurel]

so do i just activate it whenever its ready?

[vital vessel]

you need to time it

[smoky laurel]

idk how

[vital vessel]

when the spatula giant comes out of pink staircase is fine

[smoky laurel]

do i do that every time one comes around?

[vital vessel]

and when she comes against weaver

cuz weaver can break the chain between hoshi and spalter, that descrease dps on spatula giant

gg doesn't die anymore?

[smoky laurel]

typhoon in place rn too

[smoky laurel]

we'll see about that soon

[vital vessel]

your deployment order is not what i said tho

[smoky laurel]

wdym

[vital vessel]

wait

[smoky laurel]

?

you said mudrock first

[vital vessel]

no it's right

[smoky laurel]

okay, what about the spalter skill?

[vital vessel]

you can try activating it when it's ready

[smoky laurel]

its already ready

i got the game paused

its the first giant

[vital vessel]

i thought eyja and mudrock would chain,

they're both stable ground

[smoky laurel]

yeah like what

[smoky laurel]

spalter skill when

[vital vessel]

now, the giant is out pink staircase right

[vital vessel]

pink staircase is beside spalter

[smoky laurel]

so do i activate it when he's already there?

not somewhere before he enters?

[vital vessel]

try it first, maybe spalter dps on skill is enough

if you have ascalon there it'd be easier

[smoky laurel]

too late, he walked right through

[vital vessel]

[scarlet fulcrum]

S2 angle

[glad forge]

u could try my strat

[vital vessel]

then when the giant start moving

the assassin still leaking?

[scarlet fulcrum]

-60% mspd actually notbad

[smoky laurel]

i kept dying to giants, how do i know

[smoky laurel]

gonna do it now

what medic do i use if not eyja alt

[vital vessel]

i think lumen is decent downgrade

[clear flax]

I cant seem to get a perfect run again. I think the major dif is my team had shu?

Lemme try by optimizing ur operators

[vital vessel]

how many plans you have left

cm is 3 plans per run

[stiff beacon]

i wonder if i can replace shu with a 4 star

[smoky laurel]

0, using sanity

[vital vessel]

[smoky laurel]

but by being afk in the lobby, i keep on getting back what i'm losing from trying

[vital vessel]

at least it's 1 sanity penalty now not half

[stiff beacon]

damn i feel scammed by the cc, i said 1 day yesterday and now it's saying 23 hours

[vital vessel]

1 day doesn't say the hours

[stiff beacon]

i thought it meant it's open the next day

[glad forge]

silence or perfumer ideally

if not bring lancet

[vital vessel]

it could be 1 day 23 hours, and it'd say 1 day

[smoky laurel]

yea, not perfumer definetly

[stiff beacon]

does all robot not count towards the place limit? i know lancer doesn't

[vital vessel]

all 1* doesn't count

[stiff beacon]

ohhh man, robots are more useful than 2 stars

[smoky laurel]

now, whats the deployment order? and thats how my squad looks so far

[vital vessel]

idk man, i wouldn't draft robots in is3, but i'd draft yato

[stiff beacon]

frfr i should build yato?

[glad forge]

u can just follow my vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj3CMhDK16M
Ely -> Tex -> Yato -> Spalter -> Typhon ->Mlynar -> Medic -> Suzuran -> GG -> Asca

[vital vessel]

it's cheap anyway why not, also talk about this in #help not here

[glad forge]

yato to snipe out the two cannons
Saria is just a panick button for the assassins if u dont have an extra unit around, u could literally use yato

[stiff beacon]

whoops

[glad forge]

what was ur deployment order.

if ur not sure

/panicking, just go typhon, slience -> mlynar

typhon will take damage from the guitar guys though

ideally should be Typhon -> MLYNAR -> Silence

[spark sinew]

what's the difference

silence will always be attacked before typhon

mlynar will always be attacked first
chains?

[glad forge]

chains

typhon wont link to silence if she is deployed before mlynar

[smoky laurel]

fixed it but still failed, ascalon didn't manage to kill either 3rd or 4th assassin

thats why i don't trust ascalon lol

[glad forge]

at which enemy count?

[glad forge]

Them blinking is normal, check 3:12 on the vid

just drop texy on him

typhon should be able to kill him

[smoky laurel]

too lazy to do pixel perfect timing

[glad forge]

u dont need perfect timing tbh

u can just deploy ely behind her

as long as there's a unit behind spalter

thats good enough

[smoky laurel]

i'm still tired of trying, my brain is not used to thinking and it already starts to hurt

[glad forge]

u do need to swap out if the left side is struggling though

[vital vessel]

damn headache? rest up dude

[smoky laurel]

i fucking swear, underdawn cc was 10x easier than this

[vital vessel]

we still have a few more days till end of event

[glad forge]

u still got 6 days

plently of time

underdawn was easier if ur trying to do 620

especially since lin just carries so hard

[vital vessel]

s stages is just known to be hard

especially babel

[smoky laurel]

my only issue since the very beginning was gavial dying to assassins and all i would ever need is a operator that would be able to survive that

[vital vessel]

spalter?

[smoky laurel]

she's just gonna die on the next ones too

[vital vessel]

a genuine defender works too

[smoky laurel]

who for example

saria and hoshi are used on bottom left line

[vital vessel]

don't have more raised defender?

[smoky laurel]

best i can use is penance

but she's gonna die off skill too

[vital vessel]

do you wanna try silverash s2?

[smoky laurel]

i trust mountain more since he could somewhat withstand assassins hits

or i guess nvm

[vital vessel]

[smoky laurel]

i just noticed for some reason silverash has defense boost and mountain doesn't

[vital vessel]

sash s2m3 hits 850ish def

[smoky laurel]

is it enough to survive assassins hit?

[vital vessel]

oh yea def, esp with regen

idk what's the def on sl7 tho

[smoky laurel]

+65%

my silverash has 409

if this work, this is gonna be the dumbest solution in history

[vital vessel]

675 def

[smoky laurel]

does that help my case?

doubt

[vital vessel]

sash s2m3 was my budget defender when my only def was cuora

i guess he can't, just tested it, not without chain anyway

[clear flax]

I give up. I cant do it without shu and ines in the same party. Usually this is when i go on youtube if i were u asnd find a guide

Or wait til the map comes back in 6 months or so

U can definitely fund a guide on youtube

[smoky laurel]

every time i look it up on yt, its all afk guides

[smoky laurel]

even with chain, he still dies

[vital vessel]

damn, degen with ines behind her survives

wait

how about replacing hoshi with blaze and hoshi on gavialt on your strat, but with horn ofc

or not with horn

[smoky laurel]

everyone will die without eyja alt on my strat

[little ravine]

you can add me, i have quercus s1m3 with mod3

[clear flax]

Map was so easy until i no longer had ines and shu

[smoky laurel]

how would she help

[little ravine]

she has eyja levels of healing plus shelter

[smoky laurel]

i'm talking about the elemental fire damage too

from the guitar guys

its not just big healing

its the elemental damage that kills my gg and whatever medic i bring

[clear flax]

I found a guide for u

[clear flax]

https://youtu.be/_ZZiAA2z2Jo?si=9E4O0BtAvr-knH-e

This shoud work

I just watched it. Its pretty smart what he did

[smoky laurel]

i tried it long ago

didn't work

[vital vessel]

damn

[smoky laurel]

funny thing, this almost worked

but last 4 assassins came around and blaze died

[vital vessel]

yeaa without horn assassin is a pain

[smoky laurel]

i'm gonna try something else though

[vital vessel]

don't worry dude after wisadel this kind of thing won't occur anymore

[smoky laurel]

like what else do i do here

there's literally

nothing i can do

this stage is just straight up unfair

[vital vessel]

you know there's 2 6* guide with mlynar and shu

[smoky laurel]

i don't have built 4 stars

[vital vessel]

but very hard to follow

[smoky laurel]

yeah exactly

i actually want to fucking cry bro

not only this stage, i still gotta do bb s 1 cm

[vital vessel]

that stage is cancer

bbs1 harder then s-2 and s-3

[hazy sinew]

@smoky laurel what stage you doing now?

[vital vessel]

i can handhold you in half an hour or so are you down?

[smoky laurel]

still bb s 4 cm

not a single game has brought me to such a point of insanity as arknights did

not a single one

[vital vessel]

not even souls game?

[smoky laurel]

i don't play dark souls

and i don't think i ever will

[vital vessel]

souls game is even more pain

[hazy sinew]

arknights > braindead piss easy hoyo games

[smoky laurel]

like i don't understand

why is this stage so hard

NO WAY

I DID IT

[vital vessel]

lesgooo

what did you do differently

[smoky laurel]

the bb s 4 afk guide by kyo but i swapped gg and eyja places, gg facing up and destroyed the 2 side turrets next to blaze and saria

from there i guess i was just lucky with gg drones explosions and typhoon stun

blaze died to the assassin but i had surtr

[vital vessel]

oh nice gg

[smoky laurel]

oh and i swapped eyja alt with ptilopsis

[vital vessel]

now bb-s-1 cm

ptilo on skill can def keep everyone alive

[smoky laurel]

are there only 3 assassins on bb s 1 cm?

[vital vessel]

i think so

yea

1 coming to left of blue box, 2 coming to bottom of blue box

[smoky laurel]

i might have an idea then

but thats gonna come later since i'm out of sanity and i don't feel like using my potion

[next wigeon]

Ye

[crude oak]

I forget, which skill(s) for CE?

or she not mastery?

[next wigeon]

S3

[crude oak]

she any good?

legit don't use Skalter nearly as much as I used to

[stiff beacon]

Poggers

[next wigeon]

She's good ye, S3 is a very strong survivability skill

[noble hollow]

🙏

S-1 was oddly difficult

[next wigeon]

Now do S-4

[glass monolith]

I spawnkilled clownsassins with Sora + Totter on S-1 normal

[noble hollow]

i finished it yesterday thank god

i kind of enjoyed it since i had to ✨ think ✨

instead of just finding a choke and shoving all my dps there

[glass monolith]

(Checks youtube - Everyone shove dps on choke)

[noble hollow]

its that or just variations of that

[noble pewter]

There's typhon, thorns n gg, how is that not enuf dmg to kill giants, n the assassins hoshi n saria can tank for days

[noble hollow]

if theres no choke they make a choke and then put all the dps there

[noble hollow]

he managed to clear 🙏

[noble pewter]

Use ptilopsis skill, n when ptilopsis skill end, gavial skill shud almost be up again, n if not n she die, put down the bagpipe, if u borrow is s3m3 bagpipe night have enuf def tank a hit too, n there is not many assassin middle compare to left of not mistaken

[noble pewter]

Ah I guess if u did it like this, thorns not able to help gavial kill assassin n the assassins pile up there n she die also my gg s2 was aim left not down, so the giants won't able leak left

[vital vessel]

he already did it bro

[noble pewter]

I know, just trying tell him why his didn't work he prob also used gavial s3 instead of s2 n the bleed kill gavial after skill end

[glass monolith]

What the fuck is that S-3

[crude oak]

since we're getting medic Amiya, S2M3?

I know she's decent for IS5 at least

[lethal dragon]

This skill can only be used once per battle

[hazy sinew]

no real need to m3 even if you do use her

unless surplus resouceces

[worthy knot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lat5jiJ_qDo&t=142s I am trying to follow this guide but I don't have leveled pushers and hookmasters, is there any way to make the strategy work without them?

[regal frost]

e1 level 1 skill level 7 is usually enough for them

[full terrace]

I did a Surtr hospital in that anni. There is no need for pusher and puller in that one as long as you can stun the low altitude units coming from bottom left.

[tawdry path]

oh has maps rotated already

nvm

[wooden blaze]

Anyone here beat the BB-S-4 stage with 4 or 5 stars here?

Any videos of it?

[full terrace]

Best low-end clear I have seen is LeoTse's with Mlynar and Shu.

[south bone]

there's BB-S-4 CM 4 stars only on arkrec, but pinecone mod prob required

haven't seen any 5 stars only for some reason

oh yeah i just found S-4 CM with the only 6-star being Mlynar

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Qp421S7eE

[wooden blaze]

Thanks, man.

[vivid rain]

Show squad

[magic crest]

How do I beat lungmen downtown

All I have built

[vivid rain]

General main points are nuking rat king as fast as possible and having enough aoe damage to handle main lane

Hmm
Maybe using kaltsit s3 to try killing rat king and borrow like chalter or mlynar for main lane

[magic crest]

Ok

[somber falcon]

Wrong stage

[vivid rain]

oh i thought he was talking about lungmen commerc LMFAO

[regal frost]

downtown is drone stage isn't?

defence crushers

[somber falcon]

Yes

Anni 3

[regal frost]

borrow reedic and win if only going for first clear

she'll clear 95% of the 350 wave by herself

[vivid rain]

i remembered the wrong stage sorry can you come back for a sec

[stiff beacon]

@spark sinew bless vigna, she’s actually pretty good

That’s all the challenges done I’ll probably try 600 later this weekend

[regal frost]

vigna supremacy

[hazy sinew]

vigna my first e2 th goat

[brave valve]

is it even possible for me to beat BB-S-4 CM and BB-S-1 CM ?

[keen gull]

Yes

Very posiible

[brave valve]

how should i do it

i have spent so much time and yet i havent found a way

[keen gull]

Watch guides

Then try

[brave valve]

i have

i tried almost every ones that i could find
none work
most of the time im missing a piece

i tried replacing the missing piece with someone else and the whole thing just fell apart

[keen gull]

https://youtu.be/Xb_ji7Ig5_k?si=UxmRntho3Q-bv9Eu

Heres a guide that almost has all the units u have

Brrw ascalon

Shes the mvp in this event

[brave valve]

alright i will give it a try

[stiff beacon]

Ah yes the malding is real when you need to look at multiple strats to see which works

[stiff beacon]

She was definitely worth the skill rank 7

I’ll probably just level her up to 50 so she can actually kill faster though

[wooden blaze]

Man, why did BB-S-4 had to be most bullshit stage of this event.

I can't think of ways to beat it.

[hazy sinew]

watch a guide

either adapt or just copy

[wooden blaze]

I did......😭

[regal frost]

ascalon helps a lot

[wooden blaze]

I don't want to borrow 6 star to clear normal stage.

[regal frost]

this isn't a normal stage and borrowing makes life way easier

hi cat

[wooden blaze]

Hmm..........

[brave valve]

im missing so many of them
i might as well just go insane at this point

[regal frost]

horn S1 can kill a handful of the assassins

ascalon + invis reveal on right side helps a lot imo

use ascalon slow to keep enemies in range of chains

[brave valve]

but the thing is i dont have all of them

like any of them bth

[hazy sinew]

show your rosters how about @brave valve @wooden blaze

[thin heron]

bb-s-1 cm is so hard dang that rng dodge omg even with chains

[regal frost]

catto did it's above

[hazy sinew]

oh

lol

[brave valve]

here

[hazy sinew]

that roster definitely doable

just need to get creative

you wanted s1 help or s4

[brave valve]

i think i can do s1 if i try hard enough

[somber falcon]

For s4
Blaze + saria on left side
Tank stuff on mid with shu while mon3tr on yellow tile with s2 or s3

[hazy sinew]

you can definitely do s1

bruteforable

[brave valve]

s4 looks like is impossible for me rn

[hazy sinew]

you have anyone you can borrow a horn from?>

[regal frost]

shu, mylnar, silverash, ela, yato, reedic, shining, eyja alter is who id use

can borrow my horn

Suraj#2037

[thin heron]

https://www.youtube.com/@leotse9697 check this channel his/her strat is pretty good i've manage to clear up to bb s 3 cm exlcluding bb s 1 cm

[brave valve]

i do

[brave valve]

ight tysm

[thin heron]

his bb s 1 cm is pretty hard to replicate

rng and stuff

[brave valve]

i didnt think of using Kal
i will give this a go as well

[thin heron]

you could copy his strat on s4 as you have shu

then just borrow mlynar

[regal frost]

they have mylnar

[hazy sinew]

if your kal has mod monst3r tanks the assassins pretty well

[thin heron]

it needs to be max and s3m3 or damage wont be sufficient but his suqad is high end so he woulf be fine

[hazy sinew]

chalter should also help a lot (it did for me)

[somber falcon]

Make sure blaze and saria are chained to each other so enemies will get debuffed

[thin heron]

mine is quite mid game only so I cxant replicate s4 witjout shu or mlynar

[regal frost]

use shining to help with tanking, that's what I did

[brave valve]

i think i have enough res
which one should i get

[hazy sinew]

panacea

but idk if i want to get mod just to clear this

and kal might work modless

[wooden blaze]

[brave valve]

oh yea a problem i was having is these guys would just walk through without dying if i dont have a caster to help the left lane

[thin heron]

it dies slowly if it touches chain

[somber falcon]

^

[brave valve]

i am ready to do anything just to clear this event

[hazy sinew]

slower might help more than caster
or shu teleport

[brave valve]

i know they just wasn't dying fast enough

[regal frost]

wow, how many E2 is that?

[thin heron]

shu teleport iguess then pair it with aoe burst like mlynar s3

[brave valve]

alrighty thanks for the help guys
i wont let you guys down

[hazy sinew]

wait till silvergun posts some crazy video

[wooden blaze]

Don't know

[thin heron]

did anyone have cleared s4 with low end ?

[hazy sinew]

its around 4 tiles of chian to kill em

low rarity btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOmyq1HsXo4&pp=ygUOYmItcy00IGxvdyBlbmQ%3D

closeset i could find

[regal frost]

https://youtu.be/_fQCOrMCkYk?si=HQ3P-CzqqR2GMyhp

[hazy sinew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_YbH4HvCiw&pp=ygUOYmItcy00IGxvdyBlbmQ%3D

wait

keep surtr alive dream is real??

[wooden blaze]

83 5 stars and 55 4 stars.

[regal frost]

thank you for counting

I was curious

[wooden blaze]

Would have build Humus and Lutonada. But, one is ugly and other is rat.

[vernal lion]

they have like 80 res, caster will do nothing to it lol

but Typhon does

[broken rose]

whixh enemies go this way

[brave valve]

lancers

mudrock alone should be able to handle that lane

[flint falcon]

a couple lancers, a couple giants, and a couple scissorhands

[keen gull]

Typhon can lanehold both

[vernal lion]

still, I recommend for a melee blocker, to prevent the bad rng

anyway, you can just go like this

[brave valve]

i might win this guys

nvm

[hazy sinew]

nooo

[hazy sinew]

shu s3 can teleport him back when dangerous

what's the shu s1 angle here

[brave valve]

but shu will die if she s3

i think i can change something

[vernal lion]

you use Saria s2

just use Saria s1 with Shu s3

Shu's green tiles from s3 will help to cover all your op when the guitarist coming

[keen gull]

Did u not bring ur mlynar😭

[brave valve]

i cant find a place for him 😭

[keen gull]

Here

Perfect tile

Can hit the guitar

And wont get cut by weavers

[brave valve]

ight lets do this one more time

[vernal lion]

also, your mistake is that you have used all your deployment here, save some for your executor tho

[brave valve]

okay i dont think i need thorn any way

[keen gull]

Face ur mlynar ⬇️ or➡️

Time ur skill right

[brave valve]

i think down is better

[vernal lion]

no lol

deploying him on the left most and facing right

it's perfect for him

until the weaver coming, just helidrop your texas or yato to solo them

[keen gull]

Its actually kinda the same

[tawdry path]

Why don't you just put mlynar on the tile with the yellow fence thing facing up

He can hit both lanes

[vernal lion]

you need chain tho

[keen gull]

For chain just incase the fat dude walk over

[tawdry path]

Mlynar provides chain easy, just hook another ranged op

[vernal lion]

what

you suppose to chain them with melee, because the right one is NOT our ranged tile

it's ballista tile

[tawdry path]

dude if you're stressing over left kane

just body alot of melee ops

[keen gull]

Thats the most stressful lane

[vernal lion]

we talking about the dude above

[wooden blaze]

Welp, my strat sucks. Not enough damage.

[vernal lion]

and he won't survive the assassin

due to stat check

[tawdry path]

then bait the first strong attack with frd

[vernal lion]

yes, and that is why we recommend him to save some deployment for executors

he just used all the deployments and waste the executors' effort

[tawdry path]

dude I think you're just missing a dps like mlynar

your strat is solid

[vernal lion]

not enough dmg, or you didn't plan to block them when they dash to the front

also, no 6 star?

[tawdry path]

the assassin would get blocked early if you killed the fodder enemies

[wooden blaze]

Probably 2 years later.

[tawdry path]

indigo angle real?

[wooden blaze]

Hmm.

[wooden blaze]

I was thinking that the cc would kill them.

[vernal lion]

spoiler for you, the last moment will be all 3 of them coming to the left

[tawdry path]

Thing with left lane is that enemies stack up quickly

so even if ideally you can block alot, they'll just pile up and you'll get tp'd on surprise

[wooden blaze]

Welp.

[vernal lion]

stack more bind and slow

if you can, manticore s1 is fine too

[tawdry path]

idk bro, totter angle real?

[analog kiln]

all I can say is dont try to force ifrit lane
doesnt work super well
that or I need a few more hours of cooking

[tawdry path]

60 res so