strategy

[narrow pendant]

I cleared with worse so ye u can

[mellow totem]

Less than 4 months

[narrow pendant]

theres also a 4* only cllear iirc so, u definetly cann

[mellow totem]

Here's my team

[mellow totem]

WHERE

RAHHHH

[narrow pendant]

Iounou, somewhere

@regal frost sorry bestie, have to go
Best of luck

[scarlet mortar]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Vm421G78F

[mellow totem]

Ty Mr not so old player

[scarlet mortar]

unfortunately mr silvergun hasn't updated that so we only have a 13op

[mellow totem]

Aw

If only Wisadel comes sooner 1 day

[regal frost]

byee and thx

[narrow pendant]

[regal frost]

[regal frost]

i just realised all I have to do is place Ines left side for invis reveal

that should work

nvm

[deep grove]

Thanks for advice man! Cleared cm with some trial and errors

[mellow totem]

Welp this doesn't work for me

Sad

[mellow totem]

Nice

I'm still stuck

[dark violet]

surely this will go well

[young harness]

How do you guys deal with them assassins

[dark violet]

I guess in the end it was quite easy

just swapping skalter for chalter

[young harness]

Have neither

[dark violet]

aoe seems to be pretty handy to handle the final wave. Although a preemptive specter s2 helped trickle the last wave wounded

[golden gyro]

whats your guys thoughts on thorn in 2024?

[lofty stag]

better with upcoming module, but still pretty much meant for unga bunga afk general stage clears rather than throwing hands with bosses

[bold lance]

Still in every other trust farm. 10/10 niche.

[acoustic slate]

Wrong channel but quite bad. Slow activation, single target, low DPH, low DPS… Module only fixes the last issue

[mellow gyro]

whenever im stumped and look up a guide 90% chance thorns is there so...

[golden gyro]

what channel to ask this?

[acoustic slate]

#help of course

[lofty stag]

#help

[golden gyro]

in recent events, i dont see it much actually

[lofty stag]

which proves the point that he isnt that good anymore

[acoustic slate]

That’s because he’s old and fairly common, not because he’s good. If I’m making a guide, I’m not putting a full squad of my strongest operators, I’m putting in the worst that I can while still clearing, so that people have a lot of flexibility to follow

[keen gull]

Ascalon and mlynar

[young harness]

Have neither

[lofty stag]

use chains to remove dodge and invis, shoud then be easier

[young harness]

It’s done

[keen gull]

U prob just need ascalon and a weird tank or silverash

[young harness]

Lin died of chainless

[vocal leaf]

wait to see s-4

[dark violet]

s1 is prob more painful

[lofty stag]

s4 is brute forcable, s2 on the other hand

[dark violet]

s-2 felt like a joke

[lofty stag]

yeah s1 is equally painful

[dark violet]

but I guess dorothy s2 privileges

[lofty stag]

the hell did doro do

you open with her?

[dark violet]

killing everything effortlessly

yea

[lofty stag]

howd you kill the drones on top then

[dark violet]

random ranged ops

I had ceobe and andreana

[keen gull]

Typhon works best

[vocal leaf]

i spent more time on s4 with maleknights, the other ones were a lot easier

[keen gull]

Or u can just mlynar it

[lofty stag]

my typhon was too busy dealing with main mobs

but i never thought to use doro s2

was it enough dps?

[dark violet]

doro s2 will nuke and stall everything on the ground

some extra melee ops to pick the rest

[lofty stag]

yeah naw the mob rush was exactly the problem

then s2 would be really good

[dark violet]

yeah, it really breaks the map

also mines bypass the mechanic to need chains

[lofty stag]

in my grand intelligence, i used a random mumu s3sl7 to copy ela for my open

doro wouldve been way easier

[dark violet]

muesli doro start is certainly funny

I need to build her

[lofty stag]

i mean, at least drones were lesss of a problem

[dark violet]

imagine they were mk1

[lofty stag]

mk1?

you mean module?

[dark violet]

the red ones that attack

[lofty stag]

ohh

yeah that would not be fun

[dark violet]

that's the opener

[lofty stag]

oh damn

i was malding for nothing huh

[dark violet]

then I kinda make a fun runway

dorothy alone (though andrea supporting is nice) will kill off the mechanics and bottom ergates. You only need to look out for the guitar guys, I tend to drop a bait then undeploy to make it simpler. Or abuse gladiia pull (any stun would work too)

[vocal leaf]

i used gnosis as opener then 2 vgs for ethan and thorns, it wasn’t hard, too bad maleknights still not have a puller

[mellow totem]

Need a bit guide on how to beat BB-S-4 cm with my team

[dark violet]

I have bad news chief

[full terrace]

Hmm that's rough. Ela is not very good vs Assassins because she shoots them one by one and you need to handle a lot, all her bullets will be used up on 1 Assassin alone. Ascalon is good but her damage alone is not enough, she needs help. Moreover, you need to defend 2 lanes.

[dark violet]

all I can think of would require several supports

[mellow totem]

Yea

I tried multiple strats

Like Mlynar x Shu or Ela x Degen

[full terrace]

Yeah you need several Support Units for it to work unfortunately.

[mellow totem]

It doesn't work at all

[mellow totem]

I guess I can not get the last 2 medals then

[full terrace]

😣

[dark violet]

next rerun

[full terrace]

Right. There will be rerun

Next year I guess

[mellow totem]

Next rerun

Those assassins

Gonna get W'ed

[scarlet mortar]

ela shu ascalon bot left, lapp bot mid

[dark violet]

no they're gonna get the L

[scarlet mortar]

add more ops to stock up chains and borrow a red button ig

[mellow totem]

Yea I did this too

With Typhoon as support

[scarlet mortar]

typhon kinda sucks here

[dark violet]

having doro mines and chalter was a neat way to nuke the assassins

[full terrace]

Wait hold on

You have Shu, I didnt see that

[mellow totem]

Yea I do

[full terrace]

Definitely try Mlynar + Shu until you get the timing right.

[scarlet mortar]

everything moves at 200kph and you have no space to dps

[full terrace]

With LeoTse's strat.

[scarlet mortar]

mlynar's good

[full terrace]

The key is to use Shu's teleportation to buy time for Mlynar to recharge his skill

[mellow totem]

That's the first strat I did

And Shu

Get one shot

When the assassins out of invis

Idek how she got one shot

[full terrace]

Can also setup Ethan at the far right (chain him) and let him bind the Assassins a bit to buy time for Mlynar to recharge

Shu needs to be Lv90

[mellow totem]

Aw man

I'm saving up for wis and logos

[full terrace]

Yeah my Shu survived just fine

[mellow totem]

Welp

[full terrace]

I take that back

The guide only has Lv60

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOmyq1HsXo4

It should work then.

[mellow totem]

Maybe because of the module?

[full terrace]

Right module.

[mellow totem]

Either way

Shu 90 is it

[dark violet]

yeah no wonder I thought this map was easy

[full terrace]

The guide used Lv60 yours should be fine.

I mean I used a Lv90 one but thats irrelevant.

Module gives extra % Sanctuary, it's probably that.

Btw just an input: Mountain and Zuo Le can lane hold mid (I tried that).

Zuo Le reducing the Assassin HP to 50% or below, it dashes, blocked by Mountain, Mountain kills it.

It still needs to be chained tho.

[mellow totem]

Augh

I tries

To replicate it

It's not working

[full terrace]

@mellow totem Okay I just rewatched LeoTse's guide, here are the key points in his strat:

1. Used Gravel + Ranger to create chain in front of right red box to trigger DoT on the first Spatula Giant. By the time it reaches the left side its HP is halved. Mlynar skill when the Spatula Giant enters his attack range.
2. When the 2nd Spatula Giant comes to the left side, use Gravel to create chain with Shu, to slow it down and to bait few of its attacks triggering its attack animations, buying time.
3. When the first Assassin unleashes its initial attack on Shu (damaging her by around 80% HP), use Shu's skill. The teleport will loop the Spatula Giant and Assassin while also keeping herself alive.
4. Mlynar skill as soon as it's ready to kill all Spatula Giants and Assassins. In this time frame, one Assassin will come to the left lane and one down the mid lane, use Gravel to chain the left one (also chaining the enemies that get teleported back by Shu, this is very important), and Susurro + Lancet to chain the mid one.
5. Susurro burst heal on Shu when she is offskill. Keep all blocked Assassins above 50% HP so that they will not dash. Gravel helping Cardigan to block Assassin in mid lane.
6. Use Shu's skill as soon as it's ready and retreat Cardigan and Gravel from mid lane so that the Assassins step on Shu's rice fields and get looped.
7. Mlynar skill as soon as it's ready to burst all of them. Remember to block the right most Assassin (mid lane) to remove its invisibility.
8. Ethan + Ranger + Gravel on the right side to buy time using chain + bind for Shu to recharge her skill. Use Shu's skill as soon as it's ready. Mlynar skill to burst.

Also bring your Ptilopsis, she helps big time since the key is to buy time for Shu and Mlynar to recharge their skills.

Another thing worth noting is that Mlynar gains Atk the longer you idle him, up to 1155 Attack. Messing up his deployment timing and skill timing can mess up his damage output.

[smoky laurel]

why are there only afk strats on yt on bb s 4 cm

is bb s 4 and s 1 cm possible with these operators?

[little orchid]

surtr should be able to damage giants enough

s2 texalt as well

[hazy sinew]

its possible with a lot less

that just seems like trying to flex collection atp

[smoky laurel]

can i not be accused of shit every time i ask for help

[little orchid]

~~i mean, the babel stages are specifically designed for bruteforce play, and your nick is brute force enjoyer, so ~~

[smoky laurel]

then i'm gonna change my name to "no brain usage"

because i can't see a way to do cm on bb s 1 and s 2

that wouldn't be luck based or wouldn't require 5 limiteds

using "brute force"

blaze and mudrock are just dog ig

[little orchid]

kyo used both in bb-s-1 cm, so not really ig

although it was pretty close with his comp

[smoky laurel]

and he had eyja alt and ifrit in bb s 1 from the guide i'm looking at and i can only borrow one operator

[little orchid]

you have surtr to sub ifrit, and gavial2 can actually shred the beasts in one cycle

[smoky laurel]

idk what "one cycle" means in this game

[little orchid]

she's probably a better choice than blaze

one use of skill

[smoky laurel]

and probably pixel perfect timing

[little orchid]

not really. beasts have only 50 def, even exu will kill them

[scarlet mortar]

like maybe 5% of people here at most will ever interact with pixel perfect timing

imagine

[smoky laurel]

can someone just show me how i can do it with my operators? my brain suffered enough already

[scarlet mortar]

looks like there's a death trap tile

probs point half your dps there

[smoky laurel]

how does that make my life easier with my best pusher being shaw on e1 60

[scarlet mortar]

i meant ascalon's tile

everything paths through there

[smoky laurel]

still, how does that make my life easier with only single spot to borrow? who would i replace with virtuosa and horn in there?

[scarlet mortar]

er that's why i said point your dps there

doesn't have to be those ops specifically

[smoky laurel]

assasins come in, whatever i place there will die in a single hit

[little orchid]

use hoshi, she holds them fine

[smoky laurel]

what about the cows or whatever they are

[little orchid]

cows can be shred to death with gavial/exu s3

[scarlet mortar]

cows just have massive hp

practically 0 def

[smoky laurel]

so who do i take then?

[scarlet mortar]

point phys damage at them

[smoky laurel]

oh right, what about weavers

[scarlet mortar]

mud blocks the ones on top lane

apparently that's enough

[smoky laurel]

the one you placed to the left there?

[scarlet mortar]

you have enough ranged ops to stay away from weavers ig

[smoky laurel]

doesn't one go through bottom path in here?

[scarlet mortar]

they kinda just die around where ascalon is

so don't have ranged ops there

[smoky laurel]

i don't trust ascalon with entire bottom lane

i don't see how she can solo whole entire lane against weavers, assassins and the cows

[scarlet mortar]

she slows everything else down for you to aoe

[smoky laurel]

and other enemies that come through there

[scarlet mortar]

ascalon + aoe is practically free damage

[smoky laurel]

can you show it to me how it works

[scarlet mortar]

here have the link to the clear https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1SH4y1A7R9

i don't expect you to have those ops anw, it's just reference for the death trap

[smoky laurel]

i still have no idea who could i replace with the other operators

wait why did bro even bring those if he didn't use them

[scarlet mortar]

shu's talent

gives a bunch of buffs just by being in the squad

one of them being SP batterying

[smoky laurel]

ok but why nian, ling, and the caster

idk her name

[scarlet mortar]

for the SP talent to trigger you need 4 sui siblings

that's them

[smoky laurel]

still, how will ascalon kill the assassins?

oh right, horn

[scarlet mortar]

horn does, not her

[smoky laurel]

well i can only borrow one

[scarlet mortar]

^

now that you identified where everyone goes just point damage in that direction

[smoky laurel]

ok but without horn, i won't kill the assassins and without ascalon, i won't have damage to kill the assassins

[scarlet mortar]

no? just bring like 4 dps

[smoky laurel]

for example?

[scarlet mortar]

you have exu, gg, eyja, W for some kaboom if you decide to borrow ascalon, etc

[smoky laurel]

i trust horn more than ascalon

[scarlet mortar]

again

ascalon's job isn't to deal damage

it's to keep everything nearby so that when horn gets an S1 it hits everything

[smoky laurel]

and i don't have any ambushers built

what now

not a single one, they all sitting at e0 1

[scarlet mortar]

spalter doll go

[smoky laurel]

who's spalter

[scarlet mortar]

specter2

[smoky laurel]

ok, what skill?

[scarlet mortar]

S2 in case you need it ig

[smoky laurel]

and how would i time it so everyone can be in a single spot

and actually die

[scarlet mortar]

eh nah with this angle you'd just point damage at the crowd and hope you kill fast enough

W might help but i'd guess you will run into DP troubles with this setup

[smoky laurel]

i'm too tired and my brain hurts to do this

[scarlet mortar]

oh yh suzu S2 is an afk skill

[smoky laurel]

there's too much information and too many names named while i just asked for a clear with operators i have currenlty built

i don't care if its afk

i just wanna do cm bb s 1 and 4

[scarlet mortar]

oh i thought you only do afk

[smoky laurel]

[scarlet mortar]

considering the last couple times you asked

[smoky laurel]

i only asked for afk on anni stages

[scarlet mortar]

uhhhh there was another time

anw forget it

[scarlet mortar]

ely can remove stealth and slow the assassins if you need him, bring texas and yato so you can clap them and anything else

[scarlet mortar]

if you're tired rn feel free to come back later

[smoky laurel]

i did bring texas and yato to kill the assassins, they just dashed through them

[smoky laurel]

i'm tired of trying senselessly hoping a strat i'm doing will work

if somethings gonna be luck based, i simply won't do it

[scarlet mortar]

yh you want to do that a bit ahead of your main area

[scarlet mortar]

i mean

unless you have every op, you'll have to hit the workbench until sth works

it's not luck it's just making a better strategy

[fiery marsh]

I did with this, as the guy said slows truly are really good here

[smoky laurel]

i brought every operator that made sense that could work, not a single worked until someone has made a strat for me

[fiery marsh]

Monster to duel the assins until 50% (because they dash

[scarlet mortar]

arknights is a hard game

it's an uncomfortable truth but alas, HG enjoys throwing curveballs

[smoky laurel]

nice curveball

the curveball being default soldier type enemy with trillion stats

and 10 other effects

👍

[scarlet mortar]

the curveball: trilby asher but with stealth

get owned

[smoky laurel]

i just need a strat

thats it

[scarlet mortar]

i don't have your roster so that's as far as i can take you, sorry

[smoky laurel]

a strat that has my operators, only 1 borrow and isn't luck based

[scarlet mortar]

you can wait or go touch grass in the meantime

[smoky laurel]

i don't get it, how can you have the fancy limiteds but not the operators i got

and not just you

many people said "i don't got your rooster" while having 10 other fancy limiteds

are the operators i built bad or something?

[scarlet mortar]

from your roster i don't have blaze, kal, mountain, gav, penance, typhon, ling

[smoky laurel]

because no one has them?

[scarlet mortar]

not really

[next wigeon]

Skill issue imo

S-1 Cm is completely possible with your roster

[scarlet mortar]

in my case i just skip them bc they're boring in one way or another

them being strong is another story

[smoky laurel]

show me how then. by the looks of it, you just came in here to insult me

[scarlet mortar]

ok i did want kal but she didn't fucken come home

but yh

[next wigeon]

I think you can do Eyjaberry borrow

Let me try to do something similar

[hazy sinew]

brute force enjoyer should brute force harder

why are you trying to make strategy

[smoky laurel]

because brute forcing with my operators doesn't work

they either die or leak

[scarlet mortar]

the dash has a cooldown btw

[smoky laurel]

they still leak

[fiery marsh]

Bro you can follow this formula, i know i didnt sent a cm ss but i did the same thing + yalter

[scarlet mortar]

so if you planned it right you can still catch them

[hazy sinew]

they dash once then can be blocked

not that complicated

[fiery marsh]

Typhoon in place of pozy + taxalter when need

Maybe thorns in degen's place + a tank when the assassin comes

[next wigeon]

Skill issue on your part tbh

Just borrow Eyjaberry and replace Ceobe with Eyja

All the other units you have

[hazy sinew]

ceobe will do a shit ton to high defense enemy

idk if eyja can match

[next wigeon]

Ifrit would be better since hits multiple in a line

[vital vessel]

can mountain even tank the burdenbeast

[next wigeon]

Yes he can actually

It was an emergency placement btw

Hoshi accidentally died

[little orchid]

that's unexpected tbh

[vital vessel]

your hoshi sucks or your healing sucks, also use shu s3

[next wigeon]

Wym my healing sucks

I was trying to emulate their roster

Shu S1 as a substitute for Saria S1

[vital vessel]

the brute force guy still going?

[next wigeon]

Yes

[next wigeon]

My Hoshi is at E2 Lvl 60 S2M3 Mod1

[radiant quartz]

ughhhh i hate S-4 so much...

CM is kicking my ass-

Anyone able to suggest any strat?

[vital vessel]

you need horn?

[next wigeon]

Low End guide?

[little orchid]

horn s1 to deal with assassins while they walk in the center

[vital vessel]

why she ded

[next wigeon]

You tell me

I have no idea

[little orchid]

not e2 90 mod3

[hazy sinew]

he sitting here and just complaining at everyone because he has skill issue

think he might’ve left tho

[radiant quartz]

does Horn kill tho?

[vital vessel]

some but not all

[next wigeon]

Ye

[hazy sinew]

horn doesn’t kill all but she does a lot you can just use someone let

[next wigeon]

It weakens them enough to deal a last blow

[little orchid]

she doesn't wipe it clean, but she can solo at least half of the hp taking a stroll there

i used virt s3 to clean up

[vital vessel]

i'd lend you horn but ardanis has modded horn iirc

[next wigeon]

The Bruteforce fella can actually just borrow Horn for S-4 since Blaze and Saria combo can hold left lane

[radiant quartz]

do i place her like this?

[little orchid]

Ardanis#7494 if you need my horn

[next wigeon]

Plus they actually have GG and Eyjaberry

[smoky laurel]

yes you're right, my bad for not owning shu

[remote perch]

the newer lancer

[next wigeon]

Use Saria

I don't have Saria so I used Shu's worst skill

[little ravine]

i think you move horn 1 tile to the left cause the guys on the right side go to the F1 exit

[next wigeon]

Do bring another defender btw

I did say I tried emulating your Roster

[radiant quartz]

Does this setup work?

[next wigeon]

Uhhh no

The assassin will dash through

[radiant quartz]

oof

[next wigeon]

Needs 2 blockers to render their tp unuseable

[radiant quartz]

Fast redeploys can help

[next wigeon]

Can you guarantee that you'll hit all of them?

[little orchid]

my virt was on c5 facing right, but i think people used her on the column 3 as well

[radiant quartz]

fair point

[vital vessel]

if you configure chain properly yea, tho idk how ptilo can heal hoshi

[radiant quartz]

yeah that's the thing lmao-

[vital vessel]

put another medic on top of spalter

[next wigeon]

Probably use tile above Spalter

[little orchid]

depending on how many assassins slip through, she might not even need healing 🤔

[next wigeon]

Horn doesn't need healing

[vital vessel]

it's the machine unblockable guys, they hit ascalon too

[next wigeon]

The Ascalon isn't in the range

[radiant quartz]

she is

im debating whether i should switch skill for Ascalon tbh

[vital vessel]

nooo, do you have eyjalter?

[radiant quartz]

nope

[next wigeon]

Ascalon can't be hit by the machine

[tulip finch]

Is there any way for me to beat sk4 with this team?

[vital vessel]

you should move hoshi and ascalon 1 tile above, then put medic right side of hoshi

[next wigeon]

What's SK again I forgot

[tulip finch]

Carbon block or whatever

[next wigeon]

Oh the Base Mats thing

[tulip finch]

Carbon pack

[vital vessel]

the machines literally go out right beside ascalon

[tulip finch]

Trying to rush base

[radiant quartz]

Machine goes to the final column on the right for Blue Box

[next wigeon]

Oh you mean the giant fellas

[tulip finch]

Don't those giants hit ranged towers?(the ones that take dps from chains)

[next wigeon]

My head thought Arrow Shooter = Machine

[next wigeon]

[radiant quartz]

wouldn't it mean the same thing as this tho?

[tulip finch]

Yeah I've seen those guys slap archers, no idea if they'll slap ascalon

[next wigeon]

Yeah I dunno then

[radiant quartz]

or are we taking advantage of the extra range?

[vital vessel]

no silence get hit by 2 ballista then

[radiant quartz]

ehhh, my strat kills the ballista before they do any damage

[vital vessel]

oh

[next wigeon]

I see

[vital vessel]

then do that, that works too

i just ignore the ballista

[next wigeon]

I kill one and ignore the rest

[remote perch]

whos gonna kill the shit on left side? i don't think ascalon alone can handle the assassins

[vital vessel]

ptilo position was virt

idk why you move her tho

[next wigeon]

Ptilo on top of Spalter

Virt on Ptilo position

[vital vessel]

horn don't need healing

[radiant quartz]

my original plan was like this

[next wigeon]

Tile above Spalter

Not beside her

[smoky laurel]

and where would i place them?

[radiant quartz]

Mlynar helps DPS down the assassins with Virt and Ascalon

[next wigeon]

Just keep it in case Hoshi dies just like what happened to me

Place it beneath Blaze if Hoshi dies

[little orchid]

btw if you have a built gnosis, he works really nice to delay giants and assassins further

[radiant quartz]

don't have Gnosis unfortunately

[vital vessel]

nah astrel your hoshi just sucks

[radiant quartz]

issue is Ptilopsis will get targeted by the flamethrower guys and the archer guys

[next wigeon]

Wdym sucks when #help was the one that suggested the current state of my Hoshi

[little orchid]

if you have ng, can bait guitars with a cage

[next wigeon]

I was originally planning Mod3

[radiant quartz]

i do actualy

just replace Ptil?

[next wigeon]

Oooooh

[little orchid]

can use ng instead of ptilo then

[radiant quartz]

S2 or S3?

[little orchid]

actually heck, she should be able to just face tank guitars ubder s3

[vital vessel]

s3

[little orchid]

that's not a bad plan. the only thing to consider is whether you have more pressing business to raise

[next wigeon]

At that time not really

[radiant quartz]

hmm...

[vital vessel]

i'm planning to mod3 hoshi too, but i have so many raises still

[next wigeon]

Now I have higher priorities

[radiant quartz]

but then that leaves the issue of Ascalon potentially dying due to the giants

[next wigeon]

Silence with Drone in range should be enough

[radiant quartz]

uhhhhh....

[next wigeon]

"should"

[radiant quartz]

Is this a bad time to reveal that I don't have Silence...?

[next wigeon]

Why was silence in your layout

[vital vessel]

let us see your roster

[radiant quartz]

lmao hold on

[vital vessel]

lemme cook something too

[radiant quartz]

the fifth image is my initial squad

[little orchid]

it should be illegal to struggle with that

[radiant quartz]

and yet im getting skill issued

[next wigeon]

Hellagur, Vivi and Gavial was questionable raises tbh

But hey you do you

[vital vessel]

isn't typhon just melts both lanes

[radiant quartz]

Vivi was a 'I like her' raise, Gavial as well, I don't know about Hella

[next wigeon]

Yeah she does

[vital vessel]

you should get better at taking advantage of typhon's range

[little orchid]

basically you've got frd duo there to assist whichever lane is struggling

[next wigeon]

Tile next to Spalter is her ideal spot

[vital vessel]

what's mastery on typhon s2

[radiant quartz]

M3, so she might be able to do some shit

[next wigeon]

Ethan shouldn't be necessary

[vital vessel]

if you chain properly, yes

idk i doubt he can

[next wigeon]

You can perhaps create a kill zone using Ines Invis reveal on the middle area

[radiant quartz]

i used ethan to chain to Virt to stop the early lancers.

[next wigeon]

Plus Tifon

[vital vessel]

cm doesn't have middle tiles

[next wigeon]

It does the one above Mlynar

[vital vessel]

you chain spalter with virt

[radiant quartz]

but then Spalter dies tho?

[vital vessel]

what

she dollkeeper

what did you do

[radiant quartz]

wait hold on

[radiant quartz]

Fuck hold on-

[next wigeon]

Ines face up to create a kill zone

For Tifon and Virt

[radiant quartz]

oh i was thinking that i had preferred to be able to control the S2 so she doesn't die from the assassins too fast... but then, it wouldn't actually matter, won't it ?

...

I'm gonna try something

[vital vessel]

you can chain sussuro only to nightingale, so that the healing pressure is not that bad

i think this works

[next wigeon]

Where's Mlynar?

[radiant quartz]

missing. 8 dp slot

[vital vessel]

forgot about him

without mlynar is fine tho

typhon virt ascalon works

[next wigeon]

[vital vessel]

i don't remember how i handle healing for this

oh right eyjaberry lmao

[radiant quartz]

what's the skills on Asca and Virt?

[next wigeon]

S2, S1?

[vital vessel]

asca s2 , virtuosa s1 but depends on you actually

[radiant quartz]

good to know

i'll try that strat and see if i can adjust it if it doesn't work

[vital vessel]

eyjalter on ng position literally heals everyone

i'd test it for you but i don't have virt s1 friend

too lazy to figure out s3 timing

[next wigeon]

Ask Fib

[next wigeon]

Too bad they are borrowing Horn

[vital vessel]

we need support unit update asap

[next wigeon]

Kin should be able to clear S-4 already tbh

But the Low End Strat is torturous

[vital vessel]

honestly haven't seen it

[next wigeon]

It has so much micro

[radiant quartz]

theoretically yes, it's just the strat i need to use is making me struggle

[vital vessel]

oh i get why you put hoshi there now, cuz of mlynar range

[radiant quartz]

yeah

[next wigeon]

https://youtu.be/KOmyq1HsXo4?si=Q2YjnqyFaUihWNIA

[vital vessel]

2 6* for low end damn i'm dying

[radiant quartz]

but even with that, Mlynar can't kill assassins enough before they tp

anyways, anyone willing to lend a Horn S1M3?

[vital vessel]

add ardanis

[little orchid]

Ardanis#7494

[next wigeon]

Femn or Ardanis

[little orchid]

mine is e2 90 m9 mod3

[next wigeon]

They need E2 4* if they wanna clear it 6*less

[little orchid]

added

[radiant quartz]

Aight great! :D

[vital vessel]

the micro is from pinecone

[vital vessel]

horn with mod probably handle that for you

[next wigeon]

What kind of newbie can do this much Micro

[vital vessel]

fib at 1 month old

[radiant quartz]

OMFG IT WORKED

[vital vessel]

it better do

[radiant quartz]

now imma do it for the actual run

[vital vessel]

skill issued hard if you don't

[radiant quartz]

fr fr

[hazy sinew]

problem is dashing assassins no?

[radiant quartz]

it was yeah

[toxic aurora]

bb s 1 is brutal man

why is it harder than all the bb s

[jovial basalt]

Those assassins are aßsholes

They're like crownslayer on steroids

[toxic aurora]

im losing my mind

[south bone]

god i'm still stuck on S-4

these assassins are something else

[vocal leaf]

just use sa

[toxic aurora]

this is bullshit

not only they have a shit tonm of hp they literally one shot anyone in my team

[vocal leaf]

who’s killing your ops?

[toxic aurora]

gay ass assasin

[vocal leaf]

try silver ash along some other dps

[toxic aurora]

i dont have sa

[vocal leaf]

borrow one?

[south bone]

I've heard that SA + Suzuran works

not sure though

[toxic aurora]

my

[vocal leaf]

i used sa aak

[toxic aurora]

im gonna nuke indonesia if this doesnt worked

[wary orchid]

how to do the challenge mode on the last stage with full of many assassins?

[cyan gorge]

Horn + Mlynar + Shu

[wary orchid]

the tile got occupied and my Shu,skill3 range got limited

[vernal lion]

just camping in the left and middle left

[toxic aurora]

dumb ass map

aaaaaaa

[vernal lion]

cm 4 supposes to make you kill each of them near the end, so you can't reveal them and burst them when they appear

[cyan gorge]

Horn s1

enemies walk past them so you have targets

[vernal lion]

at least you can reveal, just you can't burst due to banned tiles

[cyan gorge]

bunch them up with chains and Mlynar

[next wigeon]

S-4 is more difficult imo

[toxic aurora]

i've already beat it lol

[vernal lion]

i think the weaver is such an asshole in this event

[next wigeon]

Tbh I had more difficulty with the assassins than the Weaver

[vernal lion]

nah it's just their ability

[cyan gorge]

I've mostly ignored the assassins cause Ines + Asca makes killing them free, but the weaver is actually annoying]

[mellow totem]

I don't have useful fast redeploy

Ig I really have to build 4 stars

[vernal lion]

not just cutting chain, but deal aoe dmg to 4 adjacent tiles

[flint falcon]

its mostly the chain cutting

[cyan gorge]

I realized I don't think I've put ops adjacent to each other a single time the entire event so I didn't notice the aoe

[flint falcon]

either that or they just managed to heal through

the dmg isnt high

[sly drift]

Goated SAsh

[pure orchid]

MO was disappointingly easy, it didnt even have a single assassin or cutter…

Thanks for the free 1 OP i guess

[tidal sedge]

This is the squad i used for bb-s-4 cm + texalter, just wanna ask is it good or was i playing on hard mode

[full terrace]

If you meant to ask if you can pass BB-S-4 with that, you will.

[cyan gorge]

Shu, Virt, Mlynar, Reedic

overkill if you ask me

with those 4 alone

[narrow pendant]

[pure orchid]

u cleared it yet?

[narrow pendant]

No, was tired
Its my bday today

[pure orchid]

wtf u didnt tell us yesterday

happy birthday wifey

[narrow pendant]

thankies

[noble pewter]

anybody have ascalon m3 i can borrow?

[pure orchid]

i have ascalon e0

[whole sand]

You mean s2m3?

[novel zephyr]

Guys

Do the black dudes

Take dot when invis?

[noble pewter]

yes but nvm i managed borrow one, now hope she can help me last stage

[narrow pendant]

Invis still takes dot yes

[novel zephyr]

Perfect, now time to fail the stage ten more times finding optimal placement

[narrow pendant]

U can do it

If 4* only its possible, you can do it

[novel zephyr]

Woah challenge mode can be done with 4 stars?

I need to lock in

[south bone]

they don't take dot tho?

[narrow pendant]

They can dodge the dot

40% arts and phys dodge is magical

[novel zephyr]

[narrow pendant]

Or maybe its some mechanic they have cuz im fairly sure ur basic invis snipers and shit do still take dot

I just know i didnt use asca on the last stage

[south bone]

oh we're talking bout ascalon?

i thought it was about the chain

[novel zephyr]

We were talking about asc

Then the chain

Got to 38. What were they thinking placing this many black guys in stage

Is this the hood part of babel

That they keep telling me to stay out

[south bone]

i hate S-4 so much god i somehow can't clear it so far

[narrow pendant]

Phrasing

[south bone]

worse than SL-S-5

[narrow pendant]

😭

[full terrace]

I like it. It's challenging. The final wave can rival H13-4, was super fun.

[novel zephyr]

Getting somwhere

Methinks

Maybe no ethan and ela instead will kill them

They one shot kill ma nearl faster then she heals

😭

I have an inching feeling

Your not supposed to brute force them

With ground guys

[civic bear]

u need pure defender to tank them

looking at ur setup ur better off just dpsing them right side

ascalon slows then ranged op to kill

[pure orchid]

oh, i cleared on first try

too bad it was just practice...

time to fail miserably because my strat isnt consistent

[narrow pendant]

So dalao

[nimble eagle]

boom

[pure orchid]

mods theres a random file in my #strategy

[nimble eagle]

damn

[narrow pendant]

I dont want any sussy files

Virus

[nimble eagle]

imma drive that rq

[next wigeon]

Sus Link

[nimble eagle]

[next wigeon]

[nimble eagle]

but how do i send a video

[pure orchid]

you can send one by doing this

[narrow pendant]

Why

[nimble eagle]

this is what

[pure orchid]

oh ffs i forgot to activate melantha skill

[mellow totem]

Same to my shu

[willow nacelle]

I need typhoon.
But she didn't spook me yet
Only degen

[mellow totem]

Literally ground typhon fr

[ashen knoll]

Tried Kyo's guide without Typhon and Thorns

W and Fiammetta both doesn't do enough dmg

And Schwarv's third skill only hit the mecha once

Can't even borrowed Typhon since I'm using a support Horn

[willow nacelle]

BB S1 is nightmare
I can't put blaze there

[novel zephyr]

Use asc

Try to take them out at mid

Burtsed them all down at mid

Doesn’t work in challenge

Something like that

Spatula guys will die before they get to the bluebox if they get chained at spawn

[ashen knoll]

Ines

[novel zephyr]

ou

[ashen knoll]

My only invisible reveal is Sliverash

[novel zephyr]

He could work in ines pos

I think lemme try

Nope dies to charging guys.

[south bone]

use scene

[terse sierra]

BB becomes permanent content right after this event (in fact on CN the banner overlapped), so you can just use Walter and logos on BB-S4 CM

[novel zephyr]

Oh right

[south bone]

that's on CN though

[novel zephyr]

Can’t wait to not get wisadel or logos in 150 pulls

[tawdry path]

Imagine needing wisadel for bb s4 cm

[next wigeon]

Wdym can't put blaze?

[vestal gull]

Does any1 have tips for S4 CM?

[ashen knoll]

Me with 60 pulls and a dream

[next wigeon]

Use Horn S1

[novel zephyr]

Im M3 horn s1

For this specifically

If I cant beat it with it might as well wait for wis

[vestal gull]

I don't have any invis revealing operators nor do I have horn ;-; (I brute forced the normal stage)

[next wigeon]

Uhh Typhon?

[noble pewter]

How u brute force if u didn't reveal invis in 1st place

[next wigeon]

You can force out the Assassins using 2 blockers

[next wigeon]

Blockers

[vestal gull]

idk how, I think I got lucky with my crits (I also forgot)

This was the team I used iirc

[noble pewter]

So why ur brute force doesn't work in cm when it did in normal

[narrow pendant]

Cuz cm has +50% move speed so they rush u quicker, and +20% stats

[novel zephyr]

Cm buffs stats???

[steep coral]

i need strategy bb s-4

[novel zephyr]

Thought it only

[tawdry path]

they do

[steep coral]

norma and cm afk

[novel zephyr]

[steep coral]

dang i have limit ops

no horn or goldenglow

[noble pewter]

Oh it did? I didn't read no wonder those skaters seem really fast

[steep coral]

and no blaze

[novel zephyr]

Do you have ines?

[steep coral]

nope

like i said

i have limit ops

[novel zephyr]

Try asc’ing mid

[steep coral]

but i have virtuosa

[novel zephyr]

With defenders

[steep coral]

main problem is

[novel zephyr]

Virtu + medic rigth side

[steep coral]

how i can kil

[novel zephyr]

Clears the spatula guys

[steep coral]

the asassins invisible?

without silverash?

[tawdry path]

2 ops to block them

[novel zephyr]

Chains reveal assasins for a moment

[narrow pendant]

Every cm does yes, and S stages use lvl2 stats so even more buffs

[steep coral]

also they a lot than i think

actually hurt assasins

[novel zephyr]

Do something like this

Replace gladia with medic
Virtu S1 facing down
Asc mid + 2 defenders connected to reveal them.
Brute force waves going bottom with strong ops

Ines not needed, myrtle is sufficient methinks

[noble pewter]

Doesn't cm ban those middle tiles?

[tawdry path]

for normal that works

[novel zephyr]

You could use elysuim

[novel zephyr]

Yeah

Which is why

Im tweaking

OH

He was talking bout cm?

[noble pewter]

I not sure

[steep coral]

ascalon disable invisible?

[novel zephyr]

No

Chains do

You kill them there

[steep coral]

[noble pewter]

Anyhow what I did was clear left n setup bottom left

[novel zephyr]

Or chip them low enoguh to kill them

[steep coral]

im using strategy kyo

with my modification little

[noble pewter]

The early lunacub n aak chain will block all lancer n aak can stun flamethrower, but if u have eyjaberry maybe it's no issue

[tawdry path]

it's fairly straightforward

ela there is to kill the guitar guy

[steep coral]

time to using my strategfy

stratless

[keen gull]

Average trial and error enjoyer

[novel zephyr]

Me

Gl with the 10 pulls

[steep coral]

i want using silverash to kill assasins

[noble pewter]

There are single mlynar core clears on bilibili cm mode too I think simple 3 star units n just mlynar if not mistaken

[novel zephyr]

What will you do when you dont get em

[keen gull]

Thanks dude

I only got like 20 pulls rn

[keen gull]

Spend all my sanity refills and clear all the side stories

[tawdry path]

you still have a lot of side stories left?

[keen gull]

Like 12 of them

I havent even clear intermezzi yet

[tawdry path]

well gl, 320 sanity a day gave me 170 OP during the 10th day

[keen gull]

Hopefully rnggod blesses me

[keen gull]

Ima go 900 sanity a day

[novel zephyr]

If this game gives me another spect alter dupe like last limted

Ima quit

Straight up

[tawdry path]

that's still about 50 OP average

[novel zephyr]

Delete arknights and go on with life

[whole sand]

Who did you pull again, ascalon or ines? Or both? 😭

[keen gull]

Both

[tawdry path]

ideal ending

[keen gull]

Too tempting

[whole sand]

Did you get them at least

[keen gull]

Yes

Took my entire savings

[tawdry path]

how much pulls did bro blow

[whole sand]

And how many pulls did that take you

[keen gull]

Like 120 atleast

For 2 6 stars

[whole sand]

Wait... Didn't you get some offrate at least

[keen gull]

All gud those pulls are the sacrifices for luck

[keen gull]

Nope not at all

[whole sand]

Truly, that just means you're gonna get wis + walter with the 24 free pulls

[keen gull]

Ill get wis,logos and skalter trust

[whole sand]

Still tho, I'd be happy in your place, you didn't get off rates at least

[keen gull]

True

Atleast theyre meta charac

I wouldve folded the moment i got stainless

[whole sand]

A fate worse than death

[keen gull]

[whole sand]

Next years tftw banner is gonna be pretty tempting for newbies or people who don't have ines/logos

[keen gull]

Ainnoway

They puttin them tgt

[steep coral]

what about this?

[novel zephyr]

Logos is standard?

[novel zephyr]

If the black guys don’t instantly kill your ops itd good

[keen gull]

Do not let the chain cutters reach u

[novel zephyr]

Haven’t had a chain cutter cut chains yet should see it

[novel zephyr]

Howd it go?

[keen gull]

And also at the last wave u can just retreat eyja and put mlynar at bottom left

For chains and dps

[glass monolith]

Is that heart shaped AFK pattern of most asshole enemy of event?

[scarlet mortar]

the full formation's a diamond so

[steep coral]

norm pass

cm not yet

[novel zephyr]

Is there units that can 1 skill all of them?

Wanna try

Instant bursting

Ah right tiles missing

I give up ill wait for wis

[whole sand]

[novel zephyr]

I can now cross him out my list and save for ulpi

AH squad supremacy and all

[whole sand]

yeah, eventually you'll just get logos as off rate even if you don't get him now

Surely

[mellow totem]

Same

BB-S-4

Is torture

I can't take it anymore

I have spent countless hours trying to kill the big black assassins

[novel zephyr]

For sure even if i dont i can cope

[novel zephyr]

Wording

Babel’s hood is just to hard for me

[mellow totem]

They are tall

And strong

[novel zephyr]

And invisible cause they’re black?

Lets stop here

[south bone]

what

[novel zephyr]

[mellow totem]

Well u brought that up

Not me

I only call them black cuz they wear fully black

[steep coral]

honeyberry is weak

[novel zephyr]

But she’s free!

[ashen knoll]

I agree

I shorty lose after this

Level 40 S1 M2 btw

[novel zephyr]

M3 is needed for 100% uptime no?

[ashen knoll]

I am poor

[novel zephyr]

id? in the process of M3ing horn if you need.

[ashen knoll]

That's already a borrowed Horn M3

[novel zephyr]

oh

[ashen knoll]

I just don't have Typhon to kill everything

I might as well wait for Wisadel to cheese this stage 😭

[novel zephyr]

tbh

i completly forgot how i cleared it

[dapper hedge]

How is the rollerblader dodge 5 ela hit fucking piece of shit :

[tawdry path]

If you don't have a solution for the guitar

he'll cook up your ops to a crisp

[keen gull]

Brrw one

Horn ain tat neccesarry tbh

[ashen knoll]

Then I can't borrow Horn to kill the assassin

[keen gull]

Tyhon can

[ashen knoll]

They're kinda invisible and many

[keen gull]

And u got surtr

[ashen knoll]

Yea for emergency heli drop

[keen gull]

Chain

[ashen knoll]

Lemme try

[keen gull]

I think u can even brw a mlynar tbh

Hes like more useful

[ashen knoll]

I'm not very smart as you can tell

[keen gull]

U can place him here to burst both guitars

[dapper hedge]

You can just bait guitarman with gravel

When he start charging his burn, retreat.

[vernal lion]

or stun them

[novel zephyr]

Do this

Replace spec with another ambusher

With asc you get all of them there

Just keep them inside that tile for the entire duration of horns skill and their all dead. Ambusher wish slow needed.

[vernal lion]

and this only works for normal, not cm

[novel zephyr]

Yeah

[steep coral]

fak

i cant pass s4 bb

the assasins too stronger

[tawdry path]

on which blue box

you can chain the assassin that's heading to the middle blue box

for the upper left blue box not much choice but to block them

[ashen knoll]

The strategy kinda works until I get annihilated on the bottom left side 🤣

I guess Blaze and SliverAsh alone can't hold that

[novel zephyr]

horn skill 3

nuke them

[ashen knoll]

No skill 1 is fine

[novel zephyr]

out of oblivion

[ashen knoll]

The problem is the assassin coming from the bottom left

[novel zephyr]

oh. do you have virt?

[tawdry path]

surtr blaze isn't enough?

[ashen knoll]

Nope

[ashen knoll]

Nah

I'm a returning year 1 player

[novel zephyr]

you have ifrit

[tawdry path]

if you're fighting like 1 assassin at a time a gravel frd can bait their strong attack

[novel zephyr]

theres an ifrit tile

on the right side

[tawdry path]

also put like a 1 tile space so if they tp they will definitely get chained

[ashen knoll]

Alright

Imma try to build bottom left better

[novel zephyr]

ifrit + medic right is almost enough for cm

almost

with virt

[novel zephyr]

Take out the ballista

That was the mistake

[noble pewter]

i dont think the ballista affect him much, it just target eyja n he has many healer for her

[novel zephyr]

right side

itll heal the guys comin down

[noble pewter]

kinda miniscule healing me thinks i didnt kill those myself

[novel zephyr]

its only 350

oh

[vernal lion]

it's level 1 ballista, with 700 atk

kinda weird that s-3 normal has level 3 ballista, and level 4 ballista for cm

each level increases 1k hp and 100 atk

[narrow pendant]

Its the special condition for s-3

[final tinsel]

is it just me or is bb s 1 insane

[novel zephyr]

It’s harder then s2 and s3

[smoky laurel]

i don't get whats the placement order

[next wigeon]

After CN livestream lets VC to show you placement order

Just no voices

[smoky laurel]

can't you simply tell me the order

what goes first so i can have penance and mountain chained

[novel zephyr]

It looks like he had myrtle placed down on the free tile on the bottom, connected mountain and penance and retreated myrtle

So

Myrtle > Mountain > Penance > Retreat Myrtle

[smoky laurel]

iirc, he replaced mountain cause hoshi died

also i still don't see how he managed to kill the assassins

[smoky laurel]

still need help on bb s 4 cm and 1 cm

[noble pewter]

s1 cm u put blaze block bot, then thorn left side aim right, then hoshi can tank either assassin or put behind blaze tank cows, saria also nearby to heal if needed, can put mlynar nearby also to use skill when needed, can borrow horn s1 to make left side assasin soft if u want

for s4 use texaslter kill left side balista, then borrow virtuosa n link with lumen s3 to make chain slow bot, saria/mudrock to block n skadi nearby right side, left side will block by hoshi supported by blaze, then just afk

[smoky laurel]

could you use the map.ark or something for it so i could have better image

LF a strat on bb s 1 and 4 cm with these operators, only a single borrow that has 100% success, personally i'm piss fucking tired of trying and if anyone could make a strat for me, it would be cool and appreciated

[noble pewter]

ok i try to make vid instead

[noble pewter]

u have no myrtle?

[smoky laurel]

i do but i prefer elysium

since i have him m2 on s1

[noble pewter]

ah ok

[smoky laurel]

and i did notice it that i get starting dp sooner from him than myrtle because of it

[pearl breach]

Do you mind borrowing ops?

[noble pewter]

no bagpipe right? all e2 is here only ?

[smoky laurel]

i got texas e2d with module

[smoky laurel]

no

[celest solstice]

excuse me, wtf is BB-S-2? How am I supposed to play this?

[next wigeon]

Myrtle > Mountain > Typhon > Eyjaberry > Shu (use Saria instead) > Exusiai > Blaze > Ceobe(use other casters like Eyja S2) > Retreat Myrtle after skill use > Hoshi > Retreat Mountain > Penance > Place Mountain beneath Blaze if Hoshi dies

[noble pewter]

https://youtu.be/t6TptrsZwcI?feature=shared

[narrow pendant]

An easy stage

U just place a ranfed op, and then a ground op

Tadah, done

[noble pewter]

here i done for u the s 1 cm, u borrow horn s1m3, the typhon actually can use s2 or whatever is fine

[next wigeon]

Pardon the delay

[noble pewter]

s 4 cm i still tweaking..

[next wigeon]

I was watching the CN Stream

[noble pewter]

would u happen have an ela e1 or sth u not showing us?

[smoky laurel]

i don't have ela, no

if i would have her, she'd be built

[next wigeon]

Rip

[celest solstice]

oh it was an easy stage after playing it for 10 times

[next wigeon]

Your problem is gonna be S-1 and S-4

S-2 and S-3 is much easier

[noble pewter]

do u have an april e1?

[next wigeon]

April???

[smoky laurel]

i have her, not built

[smoky laurel]

the stealth 5 star sniper?

[noble pewter]

or a lunacub?

[smoky laurel]

not built

[next wigeon]

I know that but what's her use?

[noble pewter]

heheheh u will find out

[next wigeon]

You have Exusiai

[smoky laurel]

exusiai doesn't has stealth

and i think april has faster redeploy

[noble pewter]

mean not e1 at all right

[next wigeon]

April has stealth but its on a time limit

[noble pewter]

also not e1 right

[smoky laurel]

no

i can try getting her to e1

[noble pewter]

no dont yet

[next wigeon]

I do wonder what you are cooking

[celest solstice]

excuse me wtf is s-4?

[next wigeon]

13 Assassins

That's what it is

[noble pewter]

any e1 tactician vg?

[smoky laurel]

idk why i have beanstalk e1 or how

[celest solstice]

possible to do Silverash + Typhon on them?

[smoky laurel]

but i guess i do