strategy

[smoky halo]

she has 0 range

[dusky grove]

Ril

[grand peak]

I just replaced Myrtle with Lappland. Was missing an additional dps to block the giant wave in the end

[foggy grove]

imagine logos s1

[dusky grove]

Wow

Lappland

Is she e2

Actual source of dmg for you rn

[grand peak]

Nope, I just started remember. She's not even E1 yet lel

[dusky grove]

It's so jover

[celest bluff]

Lapp worth e2

[dusky grove]

But yeah she is good in your roster

[grand peak]

I picked her using the selector. From a friend's advice

[foggy grove]

like kirn said grab kroos alter and tequila too from sidestory

[dusky grove]

Go e2 her instead of myrtle

[foggy grove]

bench jessica

[dusky grove]

Tequila

Can't hit air

Therefore weak

[celest bluff]

You will pull out lapp again for Stultifera Navis and Under Tide

[scarlet fulcrum]

He technically can

[noble pewter]

ya she has 500 atk at max lv below e1 almost x2 times more than myrtle max lv, also if u e1 her she get the new s2 skill which can convert her dmg into arts which hits pretty hard against armoured enemies

[dusky grove]

Wuh

How

[grand peak]

is Blacknight worth investing on?

[dusky grove]

😱

[scarlet fulcrum]

Talent

[dusky grove]

No

[grand peak]

Her skill seems unique, though I'm not sure if it's useful

[dusky grove]

It isn't

Lmao

[mild wind]

theres nothing to replaxe her for now

[dusky grove]

Krooster

Pewpewpew

[foggy grove]

kroos alter be like

[celest bluff]

Quibai paradox

Which skill

[scarlet fulcrum]

Krooster mile away better than the rest

[mild wind]

then gl with mechanics ig

[dusky grove]

S3

[celest bluff]

Ok

[dusky grove]

[grand peak]

Didn't know that. Will E1 her soon then. I only E1'nd Fang cuz I like her, she carried me in Chapter 2

[dusky grove]

She actually binds way more often then you'd expect

Lord mod should help

[mild wind]

in hoping they can clear this

actually i dont even remember how many stars you need

[dusky grove]

Just kroos it

Worst case scenario bro can get insider

Before krooster

Splash caster also works

They just need 2 hit to die

[scarlet fulcrum]

Kettle dude only on iw-5

[dusky grove]

And they clump

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh wait also iw-6

[mild wind]

welfare in record restore doesnt even go by actual stage clearance. you just accumulate stars, which i forgot how much for an operator

was it 12 (4 stages)?

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp max pot kinda free

[celest bluff]

Aren't Insider like in HE

Which rerun would be uhhhh

Next year?

[dusky grove]

Huh

It isn't out?

I forgor

[mild wind]

CN has only finished SL

[scarlet fulcrum]

After walter

[noble pewter]

tactician are kinda cool cause u get to have 2 units for the price of 1, they atk ranged n u get to put down a summonable unit that doesnt take up slot, it keep reviving itself, but if u resource poor u might want invest in more conventional defender n dps for future harder content, but still ur choice, u can test her out in those 0 sanity side story stages n see if u like her

[dusky grove]

Damn

[mild wind]

which is before HE

[dusky grove]

Ok but they suck at dealing dmg

And also suck at dp gen

Only mumu can have some semblance of dmg

Therefore the arch is bad

[mild wind]

no noob should be using tacticians

[noble pewter]

ya i know, thats why i said likely better to invest more conventional things

[celest bluff]

What is SL again

[mild wind]

tldr

[scarlet fulcrum]

Cool=bad?

[mild wind]

eyja and dolly

[noble pewter]

though i myself started the game n used her cause i liked her look, but ya i had to build defenders n dps afterwards

[celest bluff]

Damn I can't pull her

[dusky grove]

So short

[celest bluff]

?

[dusky grove]

So Long

Adele

[celest bluff]

God damn it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Actual amnesia

[celest bluff]

[rancid comet]

I need help with this stage

[mild wind]

im still wondering why typhon didnt mark him. pressed skill on p1 too

started on 2 minutes left mark so not like i can do it anymore

[rancid comet]

My current loadout

[celest bluff]

Plop a Vanguard on that fire

[celest bluff]

Drop Texas on that fire on the left

Like immediately when the stage start

Heck

[scarlet fulcrum]

Use texas s2

[celest bluff]

You can even use E0 Puzzle

[mild wind]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah for useless trust farm too

[dusky grove]

Too late

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just skull moment

[mild wind]

just a medal anyway

[dusky grove]

Bro do be 90 his W

[scarlet fulcrum]

No medal? Rip

[dusky grove]

Writhe in agony as the fact dawns on you that this will never rerun

[mild wind]

i completely missed two TFN seasons. medal is nothing compared to the skins

[dusky grove]

Submerge yourself in pain and self-blame

[dusky grove]

Skin will be in shop

Bet

Probably 4 years later

[mild wind]

can just buy their other skin anyway

anyway yeah

still bugs me why typhon actin up

[foggy grove]

i did last min run for medal lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah we know

[dusky grove]

It extinguishes

[mild wind]

nah fr?

now finish the stage man

[celest bluff]

[mild wind]

actually did spectacular say ya HP increased

[scarlet fulcrum]

Their squads also ez for speedrun

[mild wind]

i couldve sworn if i at least kill the clone

mlynar can finish the penalized real ya

[scarlet fulcrum]

Clone just 70k or smt on ultimate

[mild wind]

but bro was left with quarter

[dusky grove]

Hm

Did you not kill the right ya fast enough

I think bro will swtich

[mild wind]

i knew i shouldve faced mlynar on right side

[dusky grove]

So you have to deal with both

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ya still has shit def so whatever

[dusky grove]

Lmao

[mild wind]

that was exactly the plan

but there in screenshot typhon didnt lock on

[dusky grove]

After ya dies smh he doesn't tele to the left side?

[mild wind]

so she killed clone instead

[dusky grove]

No way right

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats clone

Right side is clone

This guy just skull

[mild wind]

real ya is still on right. spawned clone on left. after threshold he swap

so the right is clone

[rancid comet]

I don't have her

[mild wind]

and since typhon didnt lock on, my damage was crippled

[scarlet fulcrum]

U have her, just switch with s2. Her name literally texas

[dusky grove]

Saxet

[rancid comet]

I don't have her s2

[mild wind]

[dusky grove]

E0 will do lmao

[rancid comet]

I have her in promotion 1

[dusky grove]

Bro?

[mild wind]

then you have it

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can switch it, click her then adjust skill

[mild wind]

but you gotta switch

[dusky grove]

Skill 2 is unlocked at e1

[rancid comet]

Ah skill

Not promotion

[delicate flare]

[grand iron]

guys do you have any advice about operator I should borrow for 7-18

[narrow pendant]

Whoever u want really
Tifon solos patriot for example

Lot of options, patriot became a testing punching bag now

[grand iron]

not for me, mate

I am new 🙂

[spark sinew]

there are like

10 different solos

[grand iron]

wth

[spark sinew]

some don't even use mines

[grand iron]

kyo vid have e2 amiya 😭

[foggy grove]

that's like pre historic era clear

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just slap him with usual suspect

[delicate flare]

typhon s2 is the most braindead pick for new 7-18 clears imo , place her down, place generic defender at blue box, place 12F as bait, afk

or literally just anyone really

zuo solos

[grand iron]

ok man, I just failed when bring her too

😭

[delicate flare]

hop in vc

[ivory leaf]

Blitzed the whole chapter 10 to 12

[scarlet fulcrum]

Actual Blitz enjoyer? based

[spark sinew]

the easiest boomer op is probably surtr, assuming you can deal with mobs

normal mode has...16(?) different operator/skills solos it seems

are shots from mortars classified as melee hits

[waxen swan]

It shouldn't right?

[smoky halo]

how do you test this and where does this matter?

btw does anyone know where the tiachua schreders will spawn, for cheombe mod

[pure orchid]

top right box, just did this a few days ago

[smoky halo]

thanks dalao

[scarlet mortar]

vivi with shield

grudgebearer claps are "melee" btw

[grand iron]

you on?

if yes then 3:30 am tommorow?

[spark sinew]

exalter2

[smoky halo]

[spark sinew]

go test!

[pulsar valve]

Explain why this team is bad (besides the lack of mods)

[glass monolith]

Explain how you managed to lose

[somber falcon]

lack of levels

[scarlet mortar]

what stage is this

[pulsar valve]

FC-8 and I wanna die

[narrow pendant]

Amiya sucky, pramamix sucky, meteorite bad, plat isnt anything special, lack of lvls
Ceobe and blaze need mods

[pulsar valve]

Ignore platinum she's not supposed to be there

[scarlet mortar]

oh so ig tldr you don't have damage

or defense

[pulsar valve]

I don't have any other good casters besides Ceobe 😦

Hear Hoshi wants her mod too but not sure which one she has 2

[scarlet mortar]

idk what meteorite is doing there tbh, this event just sends mobs at you one by one

[narrow pendant]

X

[pulsar valve]

Lack of a better option

[narrow pendant]

+def one

[pulsar valve]

Game seems to love giving me supports and specialists but no solid DPS

Besides the ones I have

I'll go after Ceobe and blazes mods for now

[scarlet mortar]

actually tbh forget damage, just tank eblana all day

it's not like you can burst her down

[pulsar valve]

Eblana can be tanked the issue is I don't have the damage to kill all the horn guys

[scarlet mortar]

which ones, the defenders?

or the guys with global range

[pulsar valve]

The ones with Lances

[scarlet mortar]

defenders

huh surely just point arts damage at them

[pulsar valve]

Ya they swarm me cuz I can't down them as they come

My issue is I can't balance both sides since I lack the arts damage to spread evenly

[acoustic slate]

If you post your roster (sorted by rarity) then it would be a lot easier to help

[pulsar valve]

Woops posted current squad in there

[acoustic slate]

All these elite 1 max level is so expensive

[pulsar valve]

Earlier game from a long time ago lol

I played years ago but had to quit cuz my phone was crap and couldn't do missions without crashing at the end screen

[acoustic slate]

Still, elite 1 should just be parked at lvl 50 or so, and once you e2 them then you should level them up to 20 at least. It’s very cheap

Level costs are exponential in this game

[pulsar valve]

Meh I saw "recommended level" and went from that basically

Ye I'll work on E2 20s and mods for what I have

[glass monolith]

Recommended level is "How much bullshit to expect". Nothing more. You won't get 90% stat debuff from ignoring it. Many mad lads manage to achieve some unreasonable stuff like do most stages with just Elite 0 operators etc

[pulsar valve]

Right

Idk I always read Pram was decent but I'm hearing otherwise here

[acoustic slate]

It’s less that she’s bad (she is though) and more that you don’t really have anything synergizing with her to justify bringing her. Like I said, true damage doesn’t need her and ceobe wants her defense to be high to benefit from her talent. You rather just bring more DPS or a medic to help hoshi tank

[pulsar valve]

I hear she pairs well with Sora and That one vampire healer

Warfarin?

[scarlet mortar]

yh so that's a scam

[acoustic slate]

Who??

[pulsar valve]

Pram I hear pairs well with Sora and Warfarin

[acoustic slate]

Damn that’s some outdated advice💀

[pulsar valve]

But maybe people are trolling me or it's ancient advice

[acoustic slate]

Yeah your best bet I think would be to stall eblana with hoshi

[pulsar valve]

Again idrc about meta since I'm not whaling on banners to get ops but I gotta get something that works at least

[scarlet mortar]

ok going through the vid, wow these guys deal really small damage if you just don't block them near flaming reeds

[pulsar valve]

So I'll work on mods for the 3 mentioned earlier

There's no fire in that stage

[scarlet mortar]

bro got stalled by a deepcolor tentacle

[scarlet fulcrum]

Whaling on banner and pulling on good banner also irrelevant

[acoustic slate]

Blaze and ceobe are not worth using without module level 3 and hoshi mod is a big help

[pulsar valve]

That will be my project than

[scarlet mortar]

phase 2 sets everything on fire

[pulsar valve]

Who would you swap Parm for out of my roster?

[scarlet mortar]

wait did you, not get to phase 2

[pulsar valve]

No...

[scarlet mortar]

ok holup what

[acoustic slate]

Also yeah saving and pulling good ops isn’t whaling if you have good operators when you won’t be forced to “care about meta” when things get hard

[scarlet mortar]

there're no defenders in phase 1

how are you leaking

[pulsar valve]

The boss spawns, kills all the dude's to fill her shield and all the ghost heads come rushing

And I don't have the burst damage for them I guess

[scarlet mortar]

you need multihit

the embers need 5 hits to kill regardless of damage

[pulsar valve]

Hmmm maybe Irene?

Worth investing in?

[acoustic slate]

Thorns should be plenty.

[pulsar valve]

But I can't have thorns on both sides is the problem

[scarlet mortar]

blue poison also works

[pulsar valve]

True

[acoustic slate]

Where are your placements actually

[pulsar valve]

Didn't think she multi hit just hit multiple targets at once

[scarlet mortar]

bloop's poison also counts as hits

[pulsar valve]

I was doing SE where Eblana rushes for the exit and NW

Well I guess if mods are as big as people say they are and e20 is a good upgrade I'll start farming money again

Probably won't have that in time for this event but future should be better

[acoustic slate]

You shouldn’t be farming CE stages. Base + events is more than enough

how is your base output looking?

[pulsar valve]

It's decent when I remember to do it.. usually once morning than evening because of energy

Usually doing 2 exp and 2 gold factories

[glass monolith]

Event is rerun and 100k is pocket change

[acoustic slate]

I meant on average of course

I don’t expect him to finance mods by farming fc lol

[pulsar valve]

XD lmao

Honestly I'm mostly doing CE for money because I can afk it while I'm at work and haven't had the team to push higher event stages to farm lots of event currency

[acoustic slate]

You should focus on your base. CE is very inefficient

[cyan gorge]

You only want to farm FC 5 and 6, not even that huge of a requirement

[pulsar valve]

I'll do 6 than and leave it at than

[pulsar valve]

Base is just passive money tho no?

[acoustic slate]

Yes exactly

[pulsar valve]

How would you focus on it lol

[cyan gorge]

You’ll get all the lmd you need if you’re patient

[acoustic slate]

Like make sure the layout is good and you have ops with good skills raised and are using them effectively

[pulsar valve]

I mean I'm still playing so nothing If not patient lil

Ah

[cyan gorge]

You can maximize output by E2ing some specific ops for their base skills, but basic 30% workers can service fine for now

[acoustic slate]

Really shouldn’t e2 for base besides proviso which you don’t have

[pulsar valve]

I haven't

Only ones I've elites for base skills specifically is 3 stars and below

But they only e1 so whatever

[acoustic slate]

#bot-spam message

#bot-spam message

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[cyan gorge]

I still haven’t e2’d Proviso

[pulsar valve]

Well thanks for the insights. Productive conversation was had. I'm gonna go pretend I'm working at my job for abit kekw

[magic sorrel]

any tips for Annihilation 20? don't really want to borrow Mlynar and follow a guide verbatim. I have E2 Degen, Shu, Penance

[glad forge]

penance can handle all the snipers

u probably want quite alot of healing and unit with dot (thorns, ifrit, bp) would help with killing the embers

[magic sorrel]

so penance s3 can hold the top left lane and let the bottom two sniper spawns walk into her? I'm worried she'll get destroyed by Eblana

[narrow patrol]

Any ideas for the last ex stage for the firelight event? The ground deployment feels like ass considering I’m trying to trim

Not a lot of good tiles given most of the deployable are more and that screws my ops over very badly

[little ravine]

does shu + eyja s1 tank eblana phase 2 ?

[narrow patrol]

I’m not sure

Because I’m trying to 3 star but leak early in phase 1

I feel like I lack AoE

And need better ranged ops because frankly archetto and may ain’t cutting it

Any suggestions?

I was able to survive p2 but I already HAD. A leak

Need help getting 3 stars

I don’t think I’ll even bother with cm at this rate

Or trim

Also had a reedic try for the borrow but I leak in o2 because at some point killing the flames Eblana puts on my ops wipes them out

Since even killing it detonates it anyway

[narrow patrol]

Can’t test since it’s a borrow

[glass monolith]

While everyone try to get boss in mud while hiding in reed you went further and placed EVERYONE in mud?

[narrow patrol]

Again ground deployment is ass

And I need someone on the ground because of the embers those grunts leave

[glass monolith]

You can move Lappdumb and Ines to blue box at least, Lapp without attack speed will do what?

[narrow patrol]

What would you suggest for how I position my ops because I’m honestly stumped

She’s mostly there to help kill the air enemies because archetto and may can’t kill fast enough

[glass monolith]

Who is here to help kill

Ines?

So solo lapp with attack speed down hold enemies who need hits?

[narrow patrol]

Ines is mostly for holding the left side

Seriously how would I position them because there’s not a lot of good ground tiles I can use

[glass monolith]

Move those 2 left side clown here, at least Lapp in mud won't trigger me as much

[narrow patrol]

Any ideas for how I can kill those guys on the hovers?

[glass monolith]

Archetto in corner look left idk, i didn't went for any sort of nuke Eblana strats so i have no idea how fast she dies and how to do all this shit

[narrow patrol]

Archetto and may can’t kill em fast enough

[glass monolith]

S2 archetto?

I personally thing archetto in corner covering 7 tiles in row is better, but my personal bias

[narrow patrol]

That’s s3

[surreal relic]

You don't need AoE, you just need your ground operators to be moved into the reeds so they can contribute as well

Placing your operators side by side like that will just have everyone explode at the same time

I gave it a try with a squad similar to yours just now with this configuration and it cleared with trim conditions first try

For the hovering guys, my GreyThroat and Kjera were able to kill them within 6 tiles without skills, so your Archetto and RockRock shouldn't have issues either. They only need to kill until the pair comes out, then you can use Mlynar for them.

[crude oak]

Suzuran Y mod great for IS4 ed4? Already have Mod x level 1

[cyan gorge]

Neither of Suzu’s mods are impressive enough to warrant investment

[ivory leaf]

Should I consider E2 QB🕴️

[spark sinew]

other ops?

[ivory leaf]

Lee

[spark sinew]

mean what you have raised and if you can raise ela if you get her, for example

[nocturne cove]

Guys

Help me

Clear FC-EX-8

Only elbana is the problem

And her fucking shield

[vivid rain]

Just borrow nightingale and win

[nocturne cove]

I dont get her in support

[vivid rain]

Doesnt sl7 work

[nocturne cove]

Uhhh

[cyan gorge]

True damage ignores sheild

[nocturne cove]

sl?

[cyan gorge]

skill level

sl7 = no mastery

[nocturne cove]

W but ehy tf does her shield replenish like

I hate it

If no shield my gg solos

[cyan gorge]

kill everything else and shield never appears

[nocturne cove]

Thats the problem

Wait

A min

Shiuld i juts use gravel and marksman

In mid

?

[cyan gorge]

anything that can hit fast is enough so yeah

[nocturne cove]

Ok ill try

And come back

[nocturne cove]

Wont work

Eblana kills the fast rdeploy

Before the marksman can kill the invis thingy

Also she binds the target so marksman focuses on breaking thay

[cyan gorge]

she always targets the last 2 deployed in range so

[nocturne cove]

Nah

Her shield is ine inevitable

I used SA

He killed 4 of her minions

But other 4 still grant her shield

I can kill her first phase

[vocal leaf]

borrow hoe, he tanks and kill her

[nocturne cove]

But my defenders wont survive

Even when lumen and warf are healing

[nocturne cove]

Ok lemme try

No hoe in support

Im cooked

[vocal leaf]

you need someone to break the bind and a bait unit to take the other bind, since she binds two in p2 i used a healer defender

[nocturne cove]

that is fine

I know that

But her bind kills my defender

[vocal leaf]

you can borrow mine

[nocturne cove]

Like

Even e2 lvl 40 cuora

Dies

[nocturne cove]

Username

🙏

[vocal leaf]

hmm gummy would be better

[nocturne cove]

What about nearl?

S1

[cyan gorge]

boss is 100% arts damage, Cuora worst 4* defender for this

[nocturne cove]

If thats the case

[vocal leaf]

even better, she boosts healing too

[nocturne cove]

Matterhorn

He has 10 res

[nocturne cove]

Oh k

[vocal leaf]

Vasallo#6415

[vocal leaf]

all healing defender have 10 res, but yeah matterhorn has even more from his talent

[nocturne cove]

Yes

Lemme try with how

Hoe

(also pls gib clues)

[vocal leaf]

have you tried kaltsit? i guess she also works

[nocturne cove]

No

The left lane isnt even a problem for me

Gav alt plus ptilopsis

Take care of that

[vocal leaf]

ok, i’ll set up kaltsit too in case you want to try

[turbid badge]

just use ntrk smhsmh

true damage goes through her shield no/

?

we don't count hoederer dot true damage

[nocturne cove]

Dead by bind

🤣

[narrow pendant]

Bait or sum

[vocal leaf]

i know, that was just my maleknights clear

[nocturne cove]

Like for once i can

Even twice

[narrow pendant]

Or just borrow mudmud and stall her infinetly

[nocturne cove]

I have mud e2lvl1

Does she work

Ig not

😭🙏

[narrow pendant]

Is this only fc8

Or ex8 cant tell

[nocturne cove]

Exi

Ex8

[nocturne cove]

Old man

Cant read

Hehe

[narrow pendant]

Bad man, cant beat an easy boss stage

"Hehe"

[nocturne cove]

I dont have the ops required

😭

[narrow pendant]

Screams skill issue as theres bunch of low end squads

[pure orchid]

DID SOMEONE SAY FC-EX-8!???!?!

[narrow pendant]

Go away

Shoo

[pure orchid]

RAAAAAAAHHHHH

[glass monolith]

Beanstalk, go choke point those flames

[nocturne cove]

Hello!

[nocturne cove]

I mean

I dont play it 6 hrs a day

Or more

[celest bluff]

How much sp for quibai s1 at m3

[spark sinew]

whatever it is at sl7 -1

[pure orchid]

Mudrock can stall eblana for time eternal

[scarlet fulcrum]

Still need 1 atk to proc s1 after fill the bar

[pure orchid]

On mire*

Low end version would probably be spot/cardigan + 2 or 3 healers

Don’t deploy any ops on the 4 adjacent tiles of your tank

Once you get into phase 2, your tank + gravel can bait the cross attack

[west kraken]

Qn for leader stall which is better- Saria or Hoshiguma?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Highest hp

[west kraken]

Doing ex challenge

[scarlet fulcrum]

Higher*

[west kraken]

If both has the same HP?

[scarlet fulcrum]

They arent, but just use hoshi to stall, saria to sustain hoshi occasionally

[west kraken]

I personally wouldn't use both when both can get caught in the same radius with sovereign especially phase 2

[scarlet fulcrum]

Make sure eblana on mire tile

Whats ur other option

They are good enough to stall her tbh, depends on u tho

[vocal leaf]

this is when you deployed them diagonally

[west kraken]

Oh that works?

[scarlet fulcrum]

The blast from chain range is cross+ shaped

[noble pewter]

The explosion cross shape n saria can heal diagonal so shud be fine, boss only do chain 1 at a time I think , heal both with aoe healer n shud be same healing per second with added advantage saria hold charge to emergency heal hoshi n herself

[delicate moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1181899051826946128.webp?size=48

[glass monolith]

I love this CM because it give me feeling of playing CC stage

[narrow patrol]

Hmm s3 hoe may be able to stall Eblana long enough with some sustain and ele healing. That
DOES however leave me without an eyja since I’d need to borrow him too

Would Harold cut it for elemental healing tho

His raw heals are kinda eh

[glass monolith]

If you have enough healing you don't care for healing elemental from Hoed

[scarlet mortar]

eblana's bind oneshots the e.gauge anw

[glass monolith]

Unless you shamare doll them

[scarlet mortar]

ew

just hoe solo

[glass monolith]

Solo entire stage, chapter 9 fliers included

[scarlet mortar]

real

[ivory leaf]

Halp on JT8-3

[glass monolith]

Probably don't use unhealable operator on stage where floor is burning, and ranged is burning, at least she don't burn undeployed ops

[ivory leaf]

So penance is out

And virt and exu

[glass monolith]

Virtuosa might work when you stall her

At least i doubt they did any protection from elemental damage on old boss

[cyan gorge]

Borrow NG cause where healing

[glass monolith]

Idea is kill stuff, stall boss, kill boss, survive fire wave by taking with healthy operator and stuff like Ptilo S2 or Nightingale S3 and Shu grass DR can assist at that then repeat killing boss. While "running around" and killing any of crystals which kill mandatory to you strategy operator..
For boss fire either use 2 fast redeploy (Gravel + someone) or place operators without being directly next to each other (Diagonals are fine) and outheal that BS

Can i cheese burn with tacticians who have 15 second revive on pets?

[ivory leaf]

Shu

[cyan gorge]

Everything dies with skill down

[ivory leaf]

Phitil

[glass monolith]

You need to survive 1000 x 10. At least once, twice if you stubborn and won't undeploy because that shit repeats on boss kill

[ivory leaf]

Welp I guess ima scrap the true damage

Anyways ima do it again with your suggestions

Can Jaye work?

Jaye and gravel

[glass monolith]

i dont recall how long is Jaye redeploy cd

You can in theory use only gravel and have healing to sustain second person who gets burn

Also if you use stuff like Purestream you can reduce duration of Talulah burn on people (Normally it last so long she will burn someone else)

[vital arrow]

Pretty sure shu s3 is enough for talulah

[ivory leaf]

Okay uh

I just let her through

[vital arrow]

I'd just borrow an eyjaberry

[ivory leaf]

Did

[vital arrow]

Thats not clearing

What killed you

[ivory leaf]

Flowers

[vital arrow]

Silverash or gravel works

[ivory leaf]

Up placement?

[vital arrow]

Yeh

[ivory leaf]

Okay that's out

Now the damage

I could just cycle between degen and surtr

[glass monolith]

Have corpses to block projectiles or something deployable to kill them. They spawn on same pattern so you can just remember which one you need to kill/block

[ivory leaf]

And just sustain degen until surtr is back then repeat

I didn't know degen taunt works on bosses

So I guess I could use that

[vital arrow]

I mean you can just tank and spank it

Degen doesnt have taunt though

[ivory leaf]

Frighten I mean

I guess I'll just scrap that and let hoshi tank the damage

[vital arrow]

You dont even have to use degen like

Surtr for the boss, the rest of the squad are for crystals

[ivory leaf]

It surprisingly worked

I stalled with hoshi and just used surtr to chip

[vital arrow]

Talulah is essentially just tank and spank

[glass monolith]

My JT8-3 auto is 12 operator "rush" of killing Talulah on top left

Original JT8-3 clear was Chalter abuse on bottom left while holding her with defender

[supple mountain]

i need help for ex8 in the event

[cyan gorge]

AH so clearly boss isn’t an issue

[supple mountain]

well i mean

i just die of cringe

should i swap out anyone in particular or is my team fine

[noble pewter]

hold right lane boss with an AH op while gladia on field so they take reduce dmg, make sure one healer dedicated to healing said blocker, then hold left lane, deploy op diagonally so blocker dont get explosion dmg x2

[scarlet mortar]

have the boss stand in the mud and stall her forever

you can probs just do the funny specter sandwich tbh

[glass monolith]

Friend support Skadi. Block boss with Skadi. You won

[fiery marsh]

Literally abyssal hunters can solo the stage

And isnt even hard

Gladia s2 can solo the hover guys lane

Skadi to 1v1 the boss

Specter s3 + andreana left lane

Og specter to solo the brigadier

[fiery marsh]

Boss has to be on the mire

[supple mountain]

[glass monolith]

YOU FOOL YOU MISSED MEDAL

[supple mountain]

wait

what do i need to do for the medal

lemme look rq

[glass monolith]

Fix some of burning reed if i recall right

[supple mountain]

i forgor how to fix the burning stuff

[glass monolith]

Have operator on it before it don't burn, it don't do enough elemental damage to proc burn by itself but you need to have operator on adjusted burning reed to stop spread

Trim 6 reeds not burning when stage ends

Top 4 and bottom right 1 is free then you just need to guarantee 1 more reed

[ivory leaf]

Is chapter 12 gonna be hard

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nope

With ur squad

[ivory leaf]

Owkeh

[glass monolith]

Chapter 12 gimmick can go F itself

And boss too

[supple mountain]

i got the medal now

just gotta do cm

[glass monolith]

CM is mostly same shit, like you have AH, use something to prevent fire spread (Tactician pets, idk) so enemy don't get buffed or kill them ignoring their burn reed buffs and mostly repeat same stuff, but double check with practice in case enemy stats hurt

[celest bluff]

Shu can technically heal mudrock with her rice field talent right?

[polar crane]

ye

[supple mountain]

im getting my ass beat in ex7 and 8 cm

actually maybe i should look up a guide

https://youtu.be/OVnldGvfVwg is 4 healers really necessary for this?

[solemn delta]

no

u can do this with 1 healer and saria tbh

[supple mountain]

does gummy work

[solemn delta]

no clue i never used gummy

[supple mountain]

i'll try again in a bit then

[solemn delta]

do you have like Mlynar or SA built?

Thorns and Saria can handle bottom alone

u can borrow a Mlynar instead of skadi

then use like ptilopsis or perfumer on top

[supple mountain]

unfortunately no

my thorns and ng are built tho

if it counts for something

[solemn delta]

okay use ng

then u just focus on top side tbh

[modern copper]

I have a wee bit of a problem with 7-9 in the sense that I can't set up quickly enough to take out the first herald

I can clear everything else relatively well tho

[narrow pendant]

Wouldnt caper facing right instead of steward help that

[modern copper]

Caper no damage at start cus herald increase def too much but not res

Hmm

I'll try replacing Steward after degen kills the herald in the corner

[spark sinew]

tried using decel binder?

[modern copper]

Done

🎉🥳

[scarlet fulcrum]

That looks very doable

Overkill ig

[supple mountain]

can the elite dude in ex7 be frozen

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah he is just normal elite with different flavor

[round hinge]

can i borrow you guys lvl 90 ling

[scarlet fulcrum]

#friend-id

[spark sinew]

i have one

[supple mountain]

tried this out and my e1 80 saria dies of cringe really quickly

[modern copper]

What app is that

[narrow pendant]

Prts map

Or rather
Map.ark

[modern copper]

oh what the fuyck\

usefull as hell

[solemn delta]

@supple mountain so did u beat it?

[solemn delta]

use s1 and u can add an ansel for some extra healing if ur doing cm then u need someone who can detect stealth like SA wud be gud

u already have surtr who can help u clear bottom if it looks dire

[supple mountain]

would it be better to borrow sa over mlynar then

[surreal relic]

Wouldn't Ines be a better borrow for you? You already have enough damage for EX-7

[supple mountain]

maybe? i'll toy around with ines for a bit and see how it goes

[solemn delta]

for cm u just want a stealth detector ines works prob just as fine

ely s2 can also give stealth detection but idk if u can kill it that fast tbh

u could also try if u have tsuki and place her next to ng ig and do mlynar and see if that works

[marsh sapphire]

Crowded

[supple mountain]

top half looks better at least but forgot to swap to s1 saria

[surreal relic]

I gave your squad a try. I only have 6 practice plans left from testing other stuff so I couldn't optimize it more
https://youtu.be/5KMunM31NDM

Oh wait, you don't have NG module, so maybe you'd need to pay more attention to Specter at the bottom in case you need to use S2

[mortal finch]

can i clear this boss stage with my squad?

[marsh sapphire]

Ye

Just take out that invis mob

[mortal finch]

cleared it, thanks

[nocturne cove]

Faraway Mountains' Thunderclap

What does it even mean

[glass monolith]

Which part?
Also boss has like 3-4 different attacks with their own targeting priority and i still don't follow half of them

[latent monolith]

It's the lightning attack it does

Prioritises ranged units close to the boss apparently

[vital arrow]

This?

[scarlet fulcrum]

All they need is to scroll

[nocturne cove]

Yes

What i want to know is if it deals damage to all the units on the field?

[nocturne cove]

I already did and read but somehow the description doesnt seem correct

(around three ranged units)

[glass monolith]

It is just fucked up because so many shit.

[nocturne cove]

And bad description

Idk

[glass monolith]

It is CROSS (operator + 4 tiles)

Not KROOS

[nocturne cove]

Yeah i got that

[nocturne cove]

This part

[nocturne cove]

This might be true

[latent monolith]

"around 3 ranged units" includes the ranged unit

[glass monolith]

It can use it on melee units but it will prioritize ranged units first. Also i think it prioritize 5 rows in front first as all other rows debuffed by -50% damage

Give screenshots and i will try to explain why you cooked by dragon

[latent monolith]

and it does the same damage to all of them

[glass monolith]

That fucking dragon is block of if-else's, it is impossible to explain on words

[nocturne cove]

Yeah

And these two guys from help won't understand what i wanted to ask

And would simply tell me to scroll down

Like

😭🙏i can read

[glass monolith]

That's why you must nuke boss

Literally don't have to understand that mechanic if boss dead

[latent monolith]

I mean fair from them most people don't read

[scarlet fulcrum]

It has special targeting, priority ranged>closest first. The shape is cross. Shrimple as that

Yes i cant read

[vital arrow]

It deals damage in a cross aoe on 3 ranged units

Which part isnt correct

[nocturne cove]

#strategy message

It attacks all the units

Ranged or melee

[vital arrow]

Its priority check

Ranged first

[nocturne cove]

As minus said

Sometimes they dont do what is written in the info

And i was confused

[vital arrow]

No it does whats written on the info

It could be clearer yes

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its just target prio

[vital arrow]

But you can just do some practice runs and deduce it

[nocturne cove]

Thats what i mean

[nocturne cove]

This

[vital arrow]

I mean you see it also targets melee ops, so you deduce it can target anything but prioritizes ranged

[latent monolith]

That's what "prioritize" means

[polar crane]

you can place ranged op on ground in that stage

[latent monolith]

Stuff usually doesn't act contradictory to the info, although info can be left out

[nocturne cove]

But look at this

What jt says

[vital arrow]

Yes thats why I mention

[scarlet fulcrum]

I think its simple once u try the stage

[vital arrow]

Deduce

You see what it does in actuality

[latent monolith]

It does very much what it says

[vital arrow]

And make your own conclusion based on the info that you get

[latent monolith]

All games have their wording quirks

I don't think I've seen a single game where the community in general is like "ok the game has good ingame descriptions for everything"

Except maybe some card games where everything is written down (but then it's a word wall)

[nocturne cove]

Hm

I get it

[flat sapphire]

Honestly ak isn't even bad at all, it takes 1 practice to unlock enemy description and then another 1 to confirm, would be better if we have the description to begin with but we do get 30 practice plans per day anyways

[latent monolith]

in the future we get 1 sanity CMs too

[wide sail]

its pretty not cool how 0 stats and values are ever given for enemies except weight

[vital arrow]

If youre asking about the tail strike then yes its justifiable

[latent monolith]

honestly the exact number is largely irrelevant a lot of the time for stats, considering that the letters actually have meaning now

(they didn't do that before exalt)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Some games even doesn't have enemy stats tbh, just check wiki most of the times

[latent monolith]

[wide sail]

alot dont but it makes calculating damage during windows annoying as hell

[vital arrow]

If youre smart enough to do maths for damage windows

[latent monolith]

Yeah but that's not really what the ingame display is intended to do really so I tend to excuse it

[vital arrow]

Youre smart enough to look up external.resources

[glass monolith]

At least AK damage formula is one i can solve within 5 minute of excel sheet

[vital arrow]

Because you already have to find the formula for said damage window

[wide sail]

googling doesnt really go right by me cuz it feels like chester behaviour

[latent monolith]

the ingame display is like "oh this enemy has S def B res maybe I should use a caster"

[vital arrow]

The damage window formula

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats for the most games, having full stats enemy ingame kinda eh

[wide sail]

but i get why they dont put numbers everywhere

[vital arrow]

Isnt ingame information

[latent monolith]

The damage formula in general is not ingame information

[vital arrow]

Youre already "cheating" by doing the maths

[wide sail]

yeah but u can just look at cresson and see how long you get

[vital arrow]

Because its not readily available

[wide sail]

u can time with dp meter and shit too

actualyl what am i talkihng abouyt

[vital arrow]

You cant do damage math with dp timer though

[latent monolith]

the way in which def shreds/ignores/etc, buff stacks and so on are not ingame info unless you want to go and test every single mechanic

[wide sail]

well yeah but stats are given

for ur unitsd

[scarlet fulcrum]

Tell me which good notable game has enemy full stats in game

[glass monolith]

You don't know number of enemy, but you can produce red number from crit of Kroos let's say and if you didn't got 5%ed you can reverse engineer into enemy DEF

[vital arrow]

And the formula?

[wide sail]

formula not needed just read skill

[latent monolith]

atk vs damage scale is a big difference

[wide sail]

and type alittle in calculkator

[vital arrow]

How do you know the difference between 120% atk buff and increases atk to 120%

[latent monolith]

shreds and ignores operate differently, % and flat interact differently

[vital arrow]

Its not ingame

[wide sail]

im pretty sure it always says increase atk or deals atk for the two

might be exceptions

[vital arrow]

Yeah and you dont know which is which until you see the atk formula

[latent monolith]

There are inconsistencies

vigna's crit talent is an atk increase

most crit talents are atk scale

[wide sail]

ok but year 1 units are garbled mess

[latent monolith]

are there any damage scale crit talents

[vital arrow]

Like no shot you know the difference between atk% and atkscale by skill descriptions

[wide sail]

pretty sure degen at least has obvious wording

[vital arrow]

Then theres dmg scale

[nocturne cove]

Ok the description can be really expanded or elaborated...but i get it

Everything else is left for user to figure out

Or just see wiki(enemy stats)

Which i didnt even know existed

[latent monolith]

If every single enemy spelled out every single detail then descriptions would be too long

which is why game devs have some patterns

[nocturne cove]

Yeah

[latent monolith]

like how aggro in ak works

[vital arrow]

ToW matterlurgists

[latent monolith]

so if you know in general how aggro works you won't be confused by a description like "prioritises ranged units" and can tell what it does (most recently deployed ranged unit > less recently deployed ranged units > melee units)

[scarlet fulcrum]

If any game has enemy full stats on it, it would be too cringe tbh

Just look at most detailed game, its not even there

[latent monolith]

also see https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11Stfk6ymNVBrFQMS5_3gDkKQYC1f4QOouA7ObMx4MJg/edit?gid=740134071#gid=740134071

[glass monolith]

When facing him i can proudly say he targets random shit because his double conditioned targeting with different conditions on each move, F HIM

Like yes i target 3 units and ranged first, but i will target melee when there are no ranged
But first i will target units in same rows as me because if they are not in same rows they suffer from damage reduction
But first i will target ground tiles because IW-9 had ONLY ground tiles matching above conditions and HG decided to take shortcut at coding
Then i will attack melee unit, or ranged if melee don't exist, and it must be closest, but closest to my bottom right tile because coding
Also i have basic attack which nobody knows where attacking

[dapper hedge]

I just go ooga booga no need to care about his mechanic other than the souls thing

[noble pewter]

But like dota 2 moba n has international competition n biggest prize pool

[scarlet fulcrum]

Keyword moba

🛌

[civic bear]

Those games doesn't even explain every single thing there is

[noble pewter]

If they display the enemy stats, could instantly solve every arknight stage though, would already know how much def I need for my blocker n how much heal atk etc

[dapper hedge]

Things that can pierce debuff immunity and not are not even fucking clear in dota lmao

[civic bear]

Would it

[supple mountain]

need help with ex8 cm again

[scarlet fulcrum]

Doubt u even playing game with that transparency

[supple mountain]

my spalter and gladiia struggle to hold the left lane

[noble pewter]

Can hold shift or what n it would display detailed whether pierces or not, or dispellable or not, also has setting to put detailed info each skill

[civic bear]

Don't think there's much diff between knowing the numbers as opposed to just rating and experience from player

[narrow pendant]

How do they struggle? I used gladia spalter there too and it was fine

And i dont even have your whale pot6 max spalter smhmh

[noble pewter]

I bet he is putting units side by side or sth n making explosion overlap

[supple mountain]

idek how i just look away for one second and im already dying of cringe

[noble pewter]

Or not deploy gladiaa n assume her passive is active when undeployed or sth

[supple mountain]

no i place gladiia down

[noble pewter]

Did u put units next to each other like cross shape?

[supple mountain]

i try not to

[civic bear]

Who got bounded

[supple mountain]

only gladiia and spalter are next to each other

[supple mountain]

skadi

[civic bear]

And

[supple mountain]

just skadi?

[civic bear]

Did u die during stall or when boss just change phase

[supple mountain]

i can't even get p1 down

[civic bear]

Oh bruh

U block topmid left right. When boss is under mire

Gladiia mod3

[noble pewter]

Is gladiaa being bursted down when double explosion is on them n after she die ur whole army falls apart cause don't have her protective buff?

[glass monolith]

Someone complaining that Arknights damage is hard to math because we see letter instead amount of enemy stat. Meanwhile i play other game where ATK down, ATK buff, DMG increase and DMG reduction are common

[supple mountain]

it's not that gladiia and spalter are dying they're just getting v overwhelmed so one of the mobs ends up leaking

maybe i should swap to s3 spalter

[noble pewter]

Fight mobs while in reed n not mire so u have high atk spd n enuf to kill enemy reviving souls gladiaa hitting alone prob not fast enuf kill souls, stall eblana in mire so she atk slower

[supple mountain]

wait i'm goated

[nocturne cove]

Help

I can't clear IW-9

[narrow pendant]

[nocturne cove]

Mostly because my op die

Wtf is that boss

The scariest ive seen

Like

You place op and zap zap zap

[narrow pendant]

Easy like 2 years old boss

[nocturne cove]

Ywah and im new

So yk

Old man

Get the idea

😭

[narrow pendant]

Ive seen new players beat it using yatoalter s3 too

So yk

[nocturne cove]

I don't have yato

Hell

I wasnt even in the game when se cane out

Anyways i get it what you wanna say- skill issue

Now help clear it

[weak gazelle]

what IW boss?

[supple mountain]

I DID IT

[glass monolith]

Friend support Yato. now clear it

[nocturne cove]

The dragon who can strike ops with lightning, his big ass tail sword and idk summons more swords?

[noble pewter]

In practice ?

[weak gazelle]

ohh that one
i remember its on last TfN
uhhh idk your roster but if your dps not strong enough have to go to stall a bit and cycle it

[nocturne cove]

My roster wait

[glass monolith]

Give up on understanding IW boss. Just find way to nuke him before you die. Don't play operators adjusted as if you do JT8-3 Talubruh

[weak gazelle]

that thing 2nd form have aoe on ranged ops

[nocturne cove]

Oh so something like- just drop yato

Cool

Im not understanding anymore

There is nothing to understand i already got all info

But hes too strong for my opa

[glass monolith]

1nd - Cross on 3 operator
2nd - unlocks tail nuke
3rd - unlocks FIRING MY LAZAR

[civic bear]

Show op

I'd assume u die from laser dmg and no more tiles for ground op

[nocturne cove]

My ops die from lightning

[civic bear]

Oh lol

[glass monolith]

Don't group them up, shit overlaps

[supple mountain]

im cooking trust

[nocturne cove]

It does but even if i keep that in mind

They die anyways

[glass monolith]

AND GIVE SCREENSHOT OF YOUR PLACEMENT PLEASE I TELLING YOU BOSS IS TO COMPLEX TO ON WORDS

[nocturne cove]

I brought like 4 healers

[supple mountain]

just gotta stall some more until exu is ready again

[nocturne cove]

Wait

Lemme give ss

[weak gazelle]

hmm
zuo and SA huh
ok thats enough to beat it, tho more lvl on zuo would help

[civic bear]

Iw9 right

Zuo s2 should tank that

[weak gazelle]

all that left is secure the tile they needed

since its deal art your gamiya might handle the beating with help of healer

wait a min
i might be able to give the placement idea

[nocturne cove]

There

Wait for another refresh?

Ok first phase

Second bait

And then repeat

Isnt there an easy way

And it doesnt work til the end

[civic bear]

U sure u die to thunder

Or the tail clap

[supple mountain]

now for ex7 cm

[civic bear]

U don't need that many medic. Cuz they're too busy getting hit and healing themselves. Just bring 2 is enough and focus more to killing the boss faster honestly

The stage let's you have longass time to kill

Just need to manuver boss skill to avoid key op dying

[nocturne cove]

Uhmm

SA dies

If i bring only 2

[civic bear]

Dies from the tail whip I assume?

[nocturne cove]

No the thunder clap

And summoms

First phase

[nocturne cove]

Second phase let's see

[civic bear]

Thunderclap doesn't hit that hard tho huh

[nocturne cove]

idk

I can share video

[civic bear]

Just borrow Ng honestly

Ng removes arts dmg nothing to worry anymore

Then u just have tankiest op in front

[nocturne cove]

Oh wait

I forgot

There was something about status too inthis

Like negative status

[nocturne cove]

SA?

[civic bear]

Yes that's tail whip

[amber gust]

Help, i dont have dmg enough

[civic bear]

Tail whip basicly kills the said op eventually

[amber gust]

thats so difficult stage

[civic bear]

It's the tail sword looking thing. Very obvious

You aren't supposed to tank it

Bait it.

[nocturne cove]

Yes ik

[civic bear]

Targets closest melee

[nocturne cove]

I brought a bait

[civic bear]

Then u shouldn't be dying 🤔

The thunder tickle things are like 150 DPS each. 1 aoe healer can manage

[nocturne cove]

First phase went fine

Super easy

Second one as soon as the boss spawned i baited and saved my SA

[amber gust]

wow

[nocturne cove]

But idk about the second sword timing?

[civic bear]

It's every 2ps

20s

U want frd for that ideally

[amber gust]

Its a event?

[civic bear]

Past event

[nocturne cove]

Side story

[civic bear]

Just get gravel

Deploy let it bait clap then retreat

She comes back every skill

Should win

[nocturne cove]

Hopefully

But im tired for today

[civic bear]

Doesn't have to be gravel. Any fast redeploy works

Ye dw it's not going anywhere

[nocturne cove]

Ywah because i didnt bring any

I used gav alt 😭

[civic bear]

Send squad

[nocturne cove]

Btw are you sure 2 healers will be fine

Cuz thunder damages three at the same time

Imma try tomorrow with nightingale

And warf

[civic bear]

It does hit 3 but

If you spread ur unit

2 medic can handle it

Cuz ur 3rd 4th medic is just 3*

Could bring 3rd one if you want but 4th is too much

[civic bear]

Idea is to focus middle bottom first. Then slowly kill the top 4 caster

Work your way up one side at a time

[weak gazelle]

p1 and p2
yeah but i used max lvl zuo so...

[supple mountain]

dying of cringe in ex7 cm

[weak gazelle]

wait wrong pic lol
should be this for p1

[supple mountain]

[vital arrow]

2 are fine

[ivory leaf]

Guys what's the better skill for Mountain? S2 or S3?

[narrow pendant]

S2 obv

[ivory leaf]

Owkeh

[supple mountain]

still getting my ass beat by ex7 cm, any ideas?

[civic bear]

Wat exactly u have problem with

[vivid rain]

btw show your team

[narrow patrol]

Is it the invisible enemies there?

[supple mountain]

can't hold up bottom lane without either of my specters + gladiia dying, and can't really deal with top lane either

[supple mountain]

check my msg i replied to above

[fiery marsh]

My man could just use ines to reveal some guards and kill them before they start to walk to the blue box

[narrow patrol]

That’s what I do

[supple mountain]

i already tried borrowing ines 😭

[narrow patrol]

Then Mlynar behind Ines so he can nuke the enemies in her sentry’s range once I switch her out

[vivid rain]

iirc silverash s3 also works

[supple mountain]

and my mlynar isn't even raised