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SHINING OR NG WE GO RAGHHH
lmfao
bruh
tf
Surtr
your nightingale looks kinda weird
Ikr
Big long bled
But honestly NOT BAD I DO WANT A SURTR
"not bad"
Yeah I'm being sarcastic
WHYYYY
Time to cry in a corner now
my condolences
Very well I shall use this "Nightingale"
tehre both sarkaz
this sui thingy required some music to calm the mind
Do you guys have a cheese strat for HS-S-2 CM? What's the best support?
It's the only CM i cant beat tf 
Just win
Boss S stage is easier 
bruh the boss here again?
how many times do we have to teach that old piece of cloth
I dont have time for it man
I'll just whip out good old ling
Time to get an account pilot fredi 
Those wadders suck
fortress might be good on that stage for spawncamping
fortresses in general have been pretty solid this event
other than that like your usual suspects in the normal and EX stages so far
aoe casters
chain casters
big aoe damage dealers
yeah horn ashlock firewhistle
we're really past the age of st dps
No, ill do it myself
But abuse ling, dont have time to make a strat using my own units
heck even ra wants a lot of aoe
have yet to try it
i will play it now
and tell u how it goes
if i dont win i am deleting my account 🫡
Is S-2 lingn'able?
Everything is ling'able
Yes, ling+virtuosa
Duo the stage
Same for s-1
And s-3 and s-4 is ling solo
Is there a recording of that? I'm not a ling expert
Normal S-2 is actually ling solo
Cm is duo
Which of skalter, virt, nlynar and lin u habe
go to en.arkrec.com
type the stage name
what website is that?
Arkrec
I find using her s1 more than s3
I have many aoe units so s1 deals with most big guys
I am, the degen one
Not doing it
Cliff clip can suck my balls
Wait ultimate i cant read
Holy i just ling’d it… sosososo, any tips for MO?
Typhon s2 time for a blind run
It’s suprisingly short and there is a slug swarm early on
Ling again
Hmm, i have reedic or lin but vision and blood would kill my melee probably
Naw I'm only doing Ling on hard ones I cant beat like HS-S-2 
I wonder if degen+mountian top is better than qb+mountain top
Any advice for challenge modes on these last four stages?
HS 2 is harder than boss and anni
Ling and Lin is eternal
Finally, my first complete medal set 
Woah bibeak dupes are cheap
HS-2 ðŸ˜
I hate tfn wording
It says operators but affects all
costs lol
Frnka carry
I just retreated everyone
Ray dalao
damn i kinda hate this stage
or any "ranged can be put on ground" stage in general
i do not want to have double the options, no thanks
Ling time. Like me
How hard are the other levels? Degen and that other one shotter boss gave me cancer
Eblana stage is absolute cancer
The mandragora one
But in overall all four set are not so bad.
My first run whooped my ass so I'm scared to try other levels lol
Fkn mental warfare
Cliff is ez
Just ray
I was trying virtuoso s2 and ray but he died too quick
So I didn't even bother
ray taking lives with this one
meh timing the heat rays is tedious
TN 1 gimmick is about outrange the boss.
Mf I killed both when they're at the middle of my comp HAHAHAHAHA
That degen mechanic was cancer i didn't read 
Are you new player?
Played this feb
(Me looking on Cliff teleporting for 5th time)
How's TN2 and TN3?
For TN2. Dolly is quite easy since they severely nerfed it. Just drop it down using anti air then burst it. Pompei is basically art sustain and positioning. And ratking is just ratking 
TN3. First boss is basically elite enemy. Mandragora is painful to deal because pillar timing and you have to hold literally 3 separate lane. Use True damage for Eblana or you can wipe out all mob before facing her.
For real this time trials isn't so bad compared to Andoain light tiles from previous trial set. And zaaro 
Okay2 nice
Is full HP clear necessary?
I tried TN2 but leaked those unblockable runners
Just win
Wew that's a relief
Yea just win. No boss leak
And any boss leak is insta fail unless they fucked up one of elites as boss again
Why is TN2 free ops good lol. TN1 has 5* and 4* 
Yea lol.
The bosses say no
Typhon is broken on TN2
Esp cliff TP master

Lol, lmao
Bypass shield 
Bro commit ceobe 
What's different on the 3rd difficulty?
More hp and atk for everyone
Enemies only? Or us too
And most enemies are replaced by the elite version
Ahhh
You said everyone 
He spawned tornado on Ceobe and she died of cringe 
AND NEXT I WILL DIE ON CRINGE BECAUSE I SOMEHOW FAILED 20 AMMO SKILL ACTIVATION QUEST
My snipers are getting heal-checked on TN2-3rd. Any tips? Eyjaberry can't keep up
That slime boss
Any tips?
Fuck HS-S-2. One of Filth keep dying to pusher attack causing entire water to get hyper poluted 
Yeah this mode is BS. The rat just one shot a max shu and my Saria with 15%dr
Shit focus highest max HP for bullshit cross attack and lowest ATK for bullshit tornado attack
And you don't want those shits to overlap, ever
So yeah. That cross attack one shot the max shu support and saria
Thanks for checking. I will bring Quartz 
Also was rat full hp or below half? It get ATK buff on below 50% because it is one of old bosses when Hypergryph couldn't afford to second phase everything
Killihg that fucking rat was satisfying
Level 15 is the most valuable reward right? 1 wish 
time for some Typhon fun
how did it infect the water? they didn't even get the chance to "get blocked"
fuck it...
can someone help me in h13 4
i deployed virtuosa and those drones evaporated just coming in the attack range
ok i got it
the artillery guys are the ones polluting the water
should prio those guys' death
Or u can like.. Make sure ur last deployed unit is in a place partitioned off from the rest of the team
Just Lin-Ling it
good point
Why is the water blocker thing jn front of melee units, that'll just spread
last ditch to kill the invis slugs on the top of the panel before theyre blocked
thats why I put Ray on top and Ines on bot
i figures some stuff out after that screenshot
For cm u will have less partitions to use though, so u may need plan to make 1 last deploy tanker stand in front everyone in the red zone instead 
you can also not pollute the water in front so that they only throw clean water
Do you wanna avoid borrowing support?
i'd rather my ops be on cleaner water. their idea to isolate the last deployed is the best idea
you can have clean water with that tho
It's harder to maintain clean water on the left tho
guess where my slug killer was 
Perhaps he use push/pull/kill all on partition to achieve that.. Oh nvm
whoops there goes the isolation plan
might as well let this ride
lvl 1 blight's fine
theres at least 5 spots on this map where you can isolate with just 1 blocker
as long as i isolate further contaminations'
you can do it
I hate S-3 i hate S-3 i hate S-3 
time to do s-3 ling solo
Fuck rats. This fucking corruption sucker sucked up like 0.1% of germs and walking circles oneshoting my people
it's just a different version of Bulldozer and Dockworkers

needs 3 block
wait no
Bulldozers don't damage ran-over ops
Dockworkers and Rats do
the other version that damages ran-over are the MH boars
but those only require 2-block
Damn. Chalter wielding blade on melee tile looks like a guard
Chalter alter guard soon. (Real)
Chaltalter
Hole
?
Do not fuck rats
I mean like "Fucking rats are not issue. WHY MIASMA SO THICC?"
Should’ve told me sooner
how do i defeat big dragon
e0 lin...
I wish i could explain you how his fucking 3 different attack with 3 different targeting priorities work - But i don't follow either
i don't have money sorry
back to rice field with you
i accept
raise the rat and she will raise you up
i think physical is better for this boss tho
if i remember
oh when you place an op, dont place them in adjacent 4 tiles of another
i cant remember if using ranged op is free or not
Borrow reedic
fr???
S2m3
s2 is her best skill?
Bring ethan for the flames
okok
I wish flies wouldn't drain HP SO I COULD FUCKING SEE WHAT ELSE S-4 HAS 
Uh, anyone with the auto trigger like kroos has
That type does it easily for example
Lol, lmao
I used viviana s1
CM is phase 2 buff on bad water, i can't 
u doin 5* only run?
When it comes to Shu and Saria S1, who's better overall? Saria has her sows talent, but Saria has stat boost
And does Shu's sanctuary buff make up for lower stats when it comes to tanking?
Saria is still a tad bit tankier iirc, but you wont use either to tank anything serious so it doesnt matter too much
Also you’d rather use shu s3 over s1 since it doesnt have a fuckass sp cost like saria
shu should be better agains arts and bigger hits cuz sanctuary helps better with those compared to some extra def (not that I would tank big hits with shu anyway), saria tankier for whatever else
still, shu s3 better as said 
saria has dmg reduction tho, also at 15%
oh yea on the module, shu should still be better cuz the regen but yea 
(by virtue of tampering with hp pools instead of just normally healing)
surtr's hp drain isn't meant to be sustained anw, it's funny how people keep coming back to it
is there a way to get rid of blight straight away ??
theres still mobs spawning its so tuff
has anyone done the progressive overclock one for TN4?
Use outer clean water as source
Just dont dmg boss on that source
1 pump and source is fine, eventually it become clear before important wave
okay my first attempt was p good for a blind play thru 
should i kill everything in there before i use the pump or what
because it keeps spawning
Nah just enough for squids later not drowned in blight water
i had no idea those were squids
phew kept the water clean a lot more
Welp idk too, squid easier to say
hmmm looks like fun pump maps
Map is fun. 3 "drone spawn points" isn't 
Btw i find funny that when ranged ally being flied Firewhistle start attacking it too
Can u just lin it 
I linned it
(Look away) ... (Look back) "Why my ranged operator is under Firewhistle S2"
Where is fun in that 

i thought i could do ex without guide but im gonna watch some yt
boss with blight is too dangerous idk how u do it
wtf kyo doing afk
Shed its skin with arts in phase 1 and then block it in phase 2
Its such an easy boss
Step 1. "What blight?" 
EX-8 #strategy message
S-4 #strategy message
hmm
Fellow ponc user
Just m3d mine 
With her canon unluck she deserve our love 
Me! That’s me! 
ok this works well...
weirdest Shu position ever but it works in spreading grass and healing all the melee ops
and done with all S maps
HS gimmick is pretty fun
I can imagine it being implemented decently at least in IS
Boss kinda weak tho.
Holy so much meta here
Boss just evaporates with this squad no?
Boss will evaporate with almost anything really
Not like we get event bosses in IS much anyways
the phase 1 is incredibly tanky
had to whittle him down while he's lapping on top left
i don't want him escaping that area until he turns phase 2
dude I did
I only see surtr
Ah i dont have tex2 i wouldnt know
If it works it works
also S2 means she isn't mixing damage
Its whatever tho, u get 15 years to kill it
thats why i didn't fix anything
he laps so slow that i was able to do
2 cycles of Surtr
2 Tex2 S2
2 Ya2 S3
and 1 Ray S3
Based on dragongyj math she can during s3, although counted at surtr start from full health right after s3 activation. Not yet trying it tho
I think my braindead clear used mostima and eyja s2 to just kill him
His first phase at least
I need to build a bigger 5 star roster 
huh....
MO's done already
it did have some zerg rushes
200 only
I guess I'm too used to the slow af pacing of anni 400 kills
that i didn't bother checking how many i had to kill
Chalter + Typhon as usual carried a lot
alongside Ines and Mlynar
Chalter and Typhon deathzone
just had to keep water clean and Ines stationed where rats rush
Can use horn for more tiles revealed
ummmm, the small slugs are invis as long as water is blighted
Best nearlter module?
it has to be anti-invis abilities before that or just a massive block
Ines' dagger reveals 3 tiles
Add horn there you get 6 or more I am not about her reveal area
Is there any video how to do progressive overclock mission in TN event?
Horn's reveal is only good if there's a consistent flow of enemies
I guess you combine that with Ines but I'd rather not be forced to always align Horn with Ines' range
In TN with progressive overclock where you have to leave ops deployed between rounds, which mission are people doing it in?
Tn2
What
Horn cant S1 reveal anything if the enemies are invis in the first place....although you can just drop and relocate Ines so Horn gets the dagger's anti invis
huh, s-3 was disappointingly piss easy
Nah i’d stainless s3
Cm caught me lacking ngl first attempt
really huh? i have yet to try cm
standard was... 🥱
i had a few mistakes but its as if nothing happened anyways
woops i placed dragon next to ling and she got aoed by spitters 
Are u doing the braindead ling clears too?

mostly just because i decided i wanted to open ground units… into 4 spitters

this is the only way of life i know
using regular ops is actually more difficult to me now 
i can still do it but it doesnt feel natural anymore
Diagnosis of terminal brainrot is setting in
Hey hey
Everyone will be on that walter brainrot soon
Let ling live for a little longer
the cm ghost buff is crazy
CM buff assist me this event because i hate killing stuff not where it suppose to die 
cant kill cow anymore 
Well shit (Me who barely kill cow without CM)
Real question is will we have even more brainrot operator in the future. I play since silverash meta and all what I can see is that Wisadel is peak brainrotted op design that it's hard to even thinking how newer op will be even stronger.
Haven't we been here before anyways
Chalter and Mlynar in particular
"not knowing how new op will be stronger"
lin 2.0
You only say that because it's a post chalter/mlynar era
Back then, people had no idea at all
Just like how we have no idea rn as to what hg will do after wis
gg
Nah.. Even back then I know that we will eventually get operator that literally nuke the whole map. 
We get Wisadel that practically nuke half of the map now. Depends on how huge the map is, with flinger range + splash, literal "whole map"
thanks buffalo for cleaning the water for free
Worst part of S-4 - Kills 2 of those buffalos before they walk up to drop kick me into afterlife 
wth how is the water so clean
on both sides too
Don't underestimate how much water this stupid thing succ on death 
i didnt let it absorb anything
actually idk why i did that, its just increased def
its not like my roster looks like an accidental casterknights account or anything
doesnt it absorb EVERYTHING tho
like the boss
It has some limit. But like - I have no idea how much water is french at any given moment 
wym it's one of the easiest events
lol
just make a kill zone, as simple as that
Bruh what is this bs I clear this stage multiple times with at least one without absorbing
idr what hs-7 look like
maybe try kill them at clean water (?)
One spawn on left, one spawn on top right. kill them inside unpoluted water
Oh so when marked unit fucks off Phase 2 of boss fart bullshit amount of polution
Good thing I find about it.... After finishing S-4 CM
Yeh he turns it into a weak arts dot on ur units
It literally makes the stage easier
Ok, wh ere the fuck do i put each character in 1-2, this type of crap is fucking obnoxious.
Doctor in lore: war criminal incredible tactician
Doctor ingame: ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
Doctor irl: 
I was more putting characters up at the front. Is it more tactical to put them further?
You have an easy chokepoint further back
yeah u want em near back cus more and better ranged tiles and better choke point
It depends on the stage though
spawn killing usually not a good strat since bad tiles etc
Gotcha.
there's no difference between a frontloaded chokepoint and a backloaded chokepoint for simple maps except in the case of spawnkilling ranged enemies which you can't really do atm
early on it's just 'look where the paths converge, can you hold it'
if not, find the troublesome enemy messing it up and try to isolate them
I'm disappointed in myself, by either forgetting or only figuring out now that I had dorothy privileges in this event
+1 to events with a mechanic dorothy has an advantage
MINES FUCKING PUMP?
they do squats and weight lifting too
No wonder one flex of mine wipe out in 9 tiles
Try to avoid having entire map in color of red
Don't have her, pretty sure I don't have her on support
I tried but it just happens anyway
luckily, there's a banner with her right now 
No pulls and saving for Walter
Make sure spitters are spawnkilled/erased etc
And I am trying to block the enemies that spawn corruption on death outside where my ops are
I believe most portion of polution bullshit spawn from top and most portion of "you don't want then inside polution" from bottom
I honestly can't remember what I did
but it likely involved SA's s3 to wipe out everything
take that mwynar users
Oh i think i maybe friend supported Ines for dagger top spawnkill top
if it involves plates, I would do 1 tile enclosed so the blight gets separated and is bearable to the ops inside
and naturally makes the spitter lose their AOE
Spitters were the only challenge this event
overall that event was pretty easy with my perfumer regen, AH being AH, dorothy being dorothy, and SA with invis reveal
But if you have some frd or bullshit you can just gimp them before they do anythinf
And cows
Why they so thicc
They dont really do anything tho
As usual, why can't Texalter kill them in one deploy
oh, and flametail dodging water damage like a real pro gamer
overhyped am I right
Yatoalt can kill them in 2 deploys iirc
skadi does in 1
And that's why we need Hydration check bots, because gamers dodge water so much they die of dehydration
exactly
anyway, back to clean up RA, was a fun mode
Okay does the corruption drop in a four square tile, is that why my tiles keep turning red?
if it's from the spitters, probably?
The spitters don't drop corruption I thought
then idk what you mean
Those who drop on dead drop on their position and if there is valve under it they drop it to closest water because F you
it drops where they die
Aren't the spitters the ranged ones?
and if you block after a valve, it'll drop on the blocker, kek
I mean the pumpers
And then how are you supposed to stop your tiles from turning red here?
In English, please?
use their attack to clean the water on the target
Filth - Corruption on death
Scum - Many corruption on death
Consumption - Ranged slug with arts damage on corruption
Blemish - Hit 1 + 4 tiles, if on corruption - attack do corruption and bonus arts
Miasma (Fuck it) - revives on death consuming corruption and gaining DEF
but overall that map is attrition, split ricefields with small parts, so one side getting toxic doesn't affect the rest
blemish yeah
the succ
miasma can be renamed into "ceobe's target practice"
If the tile theyre on is red, their spit spreads pollution
Yeah I'm gonna need more help than that, I have no idea where to start with this one
hold on
Send roster
Start with that
I think my Krooster is still up
I am not scrolling for that buckaroo
Yeah so ex 5 just isolate the bottom lane and kill spitters, rest should be easy
Or you know he could just post it lol
It'd be like 10 screenshots
Or link ur krooster idk
No the link
But whatever we have it now
posting kinks 
Have u tried just letting kaltsit monster the bottom lane and then worrying about the rest
The issue is that water gets red on my units still and I just die
Could also front load and spawnkill while having puller deal with spitters
dang, I forgot I fell asleep on that map
I cant remember if bottom lane also spawns tanks tho
I thought I had a strategy on this one
Try and seperate ur backline from ur frontline with the valves too
Could valve here and then have a free 4 tiles for melee ops while backline heals and monstr deals with bottom lane
As long as u manage ur deploy order correctly u should be chilling
Ur roster is most certainly capable enough
Chen alt on blue with tank in front and ur damage should be no problem
I just managed it on a practice ticket and now I'm failing it over and over when doing it for real
Happens
does the hs-s-4 sui boss have higher stats than his ex-stage version? 
It didn't seem to be the case
or maybe ceobe's defense convert made it hard to notice
I see, I guess I didn't reduce his stacks as much this time
I suppose bringing a decel binder would be decent here
supposedly not, ig...
hs s 4 cm has even higher stats though
Okay, finally did it
oh man...
it's mostly his dmg that messes up my run lol
the usual +15% ak/hp/def right?
who would be a better pick to tank this guy between hoshi and nian?
specter
specter s2 with ceobe s2 just kill both phases easily
oh you guys block his p1?
I spawnkill him yea
I do have specter but she isn't e2 😦
Mostima eyjad his p1
using the start corner to kill it
44% sounds insane holy
unfortunate, means you can't use specter
There's no need to block the boss if you just redeploy Ceobe though
i haven't used specter since like
2022
me, since 15 minutes ago
I got her as one of the early 5*, and she never left the main squad since
she was the reason I leaned into AH when gladiia came out, just wanted some support
i'll just try tanking it with hoshi ig
or maybe i should borrow ceobe idk
Ceobe can just kill the boss P1, redeploy and kill P2 without the boss ever attacking anyone
ceobe win
+20% as S stage buff. +20% as CM buff. Shit is multiplicative
i tried tanking with roberta but unfortunately blight procs the shields
even if she dies to a spear, there's still time to redeploy her again and kill the boss before it needs to be blocked
tbh that stage was really easy
I almost Quartz stalled 144% boss 
compared to the previous ones like s 2 or 3
I see, should she be deployed facing the central part of the stage for p1?
i found s2 to be quite annoying tbh, the rest were fine
I placed her two tiles to the right of left red box, then redeployed her two tiles above the middle red box
and i really need to try finding a use case for Folinic in this event
gotta see if she can help a unit tank blight in a situation where they can't do that alone
and since we've got two stages where you can deploy ranged ops on ground tiles, Folinic herself takes 50% less damage from blight anw
so it's cool
gotta try this out
gotcha
The boss will stand diagonal upper right to the left spawn for a bit, it's enough time for Ceobe facing left to kill P2
i've never borrowed ceobe before so i don't know much about her, i just know she's considered to be quite op
Her OP AF scales with amount of DEF on enemy. And recently Hypergryph loves to scale DEF to big numbers for whatever reason
that makes sense 
yo guys
for tower mountains sss map do you just go full snipers
or you need some ground too?
There are few ground enemies but like 90% drones
I brought a few vanguards for DP and stacked degen on top since she can hit air. It helped for the boss stage. Good to have someone who can maybe tank a bit and/or support like shu
Boss ability counter is nuke his drones or something for him to get stunned for short time or something
Died to him on Hard first time, and 1 cycled on second try
Hard is quite funny because enemy stack movement speed and i leaked chapter 7 buff dude because he just ZOOM pass everything
ill try suzu s2 
Soooo if I’m getting this right I automatically get that buff to ammo based ops for the theee I need to use and also get to select another buff on top of that right?
This for TN-2 orientation trial
Squad buff is separate from limiter buff yes
You get 3 maxed operators, you get buff which somehow related to them, and you free to pick 7 more + limiter
these dubblin flame soliders in tn3 stage 3 are annoying me is there a easy way to kill them 
zuole can basically solo right side but they are making eblana take forever to kill
so yuck
Just stall eblana with somethinf
ya i have hoederer stall
Yah
but i just want the dubblin soliders to die nt having a issue with the stage
Do you have fast attacking sniper like exu or kroos alter
O u rite i should ines abuse with like kroosy
No you need uh... Supporter i will never remember by name Tutsikogi or whatever
she was considered mid but decent, and then she got a 10 res ignore module and she's broken
the secret is that she always was great
I noticed that hoshi s2 must be hilarious against the flies
she only became great after hg started dropping high def enemies
thus retroactively buffing her
And guess fucking what? English translation is fucked up again 
English: Miasma - Absorbing any blight ... and increasing DEF; attacks now deal arts damage
CN: Absorb blight, increase defense AND add additional arts damage to attacks
Pozy e2 60 S2L7 2 hits normal Blemish in MO
(And i am being mastery checked on red Blemish
)
Good ops to bring for TN4 ultimate?
SP squad
zuo le
Shu
Degen
Yakter
Can clear
how to kill tn3 3rd wave. that boss is tanky as hell and kills my healers lmao
i need tips for healer placements and where to stall boss, with who?
What if I don’t own Ray, Degen, or Eyja 
You need to bait her skill on two melees so that it doesn't explode onto your ranged units. Invis reveal to the right to kill the soldiers to deny her shield.
pretty cooked with no degen, just borrow tbh
I did Blemishine | Eblana | Hoederer and just bursted her. She dies easily without her shield.
is the explody thing global range or proximity?
Her skill explodes into a cross.
hmmm aight2
Targets 1 on phase 1, 2 on phase 2
ill try support shu and my saria for phase 2
so don't kill her phase 1 until she's in optimal stall location
I did this
oh nice spot
what's the website where i can plan operator placements
Ejya can be replaced by any good burst healer who can benefit from the sp, if you choose that limiter. And for Ray, you can do any good burst dps like pozy or ceobe or something, I didn’t get too nerdy with the stats. And maybe borrow degen lol
Look under pins, CN Resources at the bottom.
Map.Ark
Thanks
at least this time boss put a bit more fight
I did it like this, blocking off the paths and funneling towards Hoederer. Reed and Hoederer alone are probably enough to kill Eblana as long as she doesn't get her shield.
i don't have good enough units to reveal invis. does she hit harder with a shield?
I don't think the shield does anything to her damage, but she does hit harder on P2, with double damage on melee iirc
Is there a low tier squad strategy for HS-S-2?
define low tier
3* or below? or something else?
I'll find a way to tank it. thanks
Like 4-5 star
i see
3 blocker for each lane obviously
There's either Ling carry or blockers + 2 pushers + medics + 1 6* that does damage
idk if this easy enough to follow
and....yeah win :clueless:
Damn guess I’m just dog shit I’ve been playing this stage for like an hour with my team and have been getting cooked
I don’t have any more tanks levelled but this is what I’ve been running
You can watch these to get an idea, they're pretty straightforward to execute too
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1xA4m1V7d9
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1YJ4m1x76E
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1sz421d7r2
The last one uses a E1L60 Pinecone instead of a second pusher, but the execution is a bit less clean compared to the other two
what's best TN limiter ?
lots use preheated core
Preheated core is strong, lightened load let you forgo vanguard to bring an additional dps which can also be pretty strong but we’re alr in the ages of ines so it doesnt matter that much
alright thanks
This took me a while. How hard is 2nd and 3rd stage lol
Can you suggest modifications or smthn, im glad mt solos bottom lane
I dont think shu can survive the 3rd difficulty anymore
Also, shu is the borrow
You could borrow Eyja Alter and have Hoederer tank Eblana instead. Eyja+Reed are enough healing, you can switch Honeyberry and Whisperain to other more helpful operators instead.
Just use from the premade squad
oh I havent checked the squad yet lol thanks. I took a break after 1st stage
which hoerider skill?
S3
He gets more HP, +1 range, deals true damage and RNG stuns when you activate S3
why didn't I pull for that guy 
The true damage is tiny
Not worth, his banner was also just before Virtuosa iirc
well, true that. virt has been a big help
Hoederer banner was like a year ago in CN already, I can't remember what banners were around him anymore 
do challenge version stages increase the stats of the average enemies?
Yes
They do, by 20% usually
How do I kill cliff? Or at least who to use against him. Didn't play his event so got no clue
@surreal relic thank you for the tips, this was hella easy. I was malding yesterday for no reason
I wonder if I get stat checked on phase 3
You should be fine, the premade squad alone with Eyja Alter borrow can clear Spectacular without any other operators after all

I’ll do tn1 after this. The bosses there seems like they need to be killed as far awas as possible
You either kill him from afar using stuff like Typhon, Ray, Ceobe or use the heat vents to debuff him so that your blocker can survive his burst
You can also use someone like Specter Alter to bait his burst too
I’m boutta do this later. Can I typhon+ray both bosses? Lol
And how hard is that one to the right
IMO difficulty in ascending order
TN3 - TN2 - TN 1
The forced ops on TN1 are ass 
typhon as support but I dont have invis reveal for degen fuk
You can bait the dash then block Degen with someone else while you burst with Typhon and Ray
I found TN-4 pretty straightforward. I used Reed Alter for wave 1, Typhon/Ray for wave 2 and Typhon right side Ray left side for wave 3
is the dash a one time thing or a long cd?
There's a CD that gets reduced on Spectacular iirc
thanks, ill try this too
Just be careful with Free on wave 2, since if you don't burst him down while he's enraged, he can start wiping your team if you're not prepared
Do we have prts EN? Gamepress is dead
Try wiki.gg
Hs-s-2 cm is by far my least favourite stage in the game 
I used Lin I think for the tanking of the drones if that’s the stage I think it is
You are thinking wrong
You are right nvm diffrent one
Hmm kinda brute forced that one lol
Same, eyjaberry and shu to outheal ground dmg and then yato2 to kill spitters
While keeping a patch of clean behind my units so i can safely kill the sucker
What's better? Surtr or lee
Story and uh event stages
So surtr?
Surtr is the og big damage
Pretty much what I do when I need to emergency kill elites or bosses with texasalter alter combined
No it's the one where you don't have any pumps and you gotta place down throttles
You just have to do a lot of management and time skills correctly,at least on my case
I guess we go surtr
how difficult is ultimate trial vs spectacular?
If I understand it correctly, cliff won't teleport if the operator he targeted won't die or at least retreated right?
I found out Mandragora tiles in TN-3 block reed being on fire. 
(Looks on TN-4) Fuck this game 
Yeah. In Specter Alter's case, he won't teleport even if he forces her into doll form since it doesn't count as a kill.
And if he targets her during doll form... You fucked up
40% buff on enemies and 20% on bosses as opposed to 20% and 10%(?)
Retreating also causes dash
Operator has to not die to prevent
idk if I should bother doing ult trial then 
Just try it, Ultimate hardly felt any different to Spectacular to me
Neat, thanks
oh, I did it, ult isnt that much harder than spectacular
don't mind me, for sharing to other discords.
HS-S-4 CM.
Main challenge of boss stages - don't fall asleep waiting for boss to move 
Erm, what are good placements for this boss again? I forgot how I beat this
Wiped everyone, glad I have ray and the boss is only 1 phase
Proud to say I beat 1st difficulty blind first try 
Just exealt the lizard
Then he gets lasered and dies
Just Silence Alter S2 the Exalt 
you just degen all 3 bosses
first one is fairly squishy so you just win by defailt with your ops by just doing a lot of damage
Lol i typhon+ray’d all bosses
Saria just clenching her ass tryna survive the first boss while ray and typhon praying behind
is this typhon2
oh this is decent
btw when it means behind
any operator they're looking away from?
cause i can rearrange that easily
And then cliff strip your Def and shot you in face
heh....
use ray with stainless
cut the shit unit that is typhon
there's also a better tile for her but eh
2241 ATK with a chance to stun, yeah no
easy
diss anyone you don't like as much as you want. I will use those who I think is perfect for the situation
finally, some good food in these team buffs.
previous ones weren't as nice
a good 30% on ATK is welcome
i struggle to find how typhon is perfect for situation here
it might be because she isn't
long ranged damage are the best for these bosses who are lethal when in 3x3
you'd say Horn or others would be better options
but Typhon's S2 makes the mobs trivial too
She kills him before he kills you
i literally said above about stainless
waste of a slot imo.
horn is not great here either
in fact might be worse than typhon but i'm not here on a quest to rate bad ops
you have ines and ray, so you kill both bosses anyway by outranging
Ines barely damages these guys. Ines is there for anti-invis and printing
i don't know why you think she just melts bosses
I tried Stainless + premade Liskarm, didn't went well
clearly that's what i meant as well
because if i said " just use Ray" people would ignore your ss and go "Degen PHASE 2!"
yeah Ray doesn't care.
idk why degen is moving at all but yeah
not really that long ago
it was a day after her banner on EN
in fact i still think i blundered by pulling for her
2 weeks apart at least
as for your regrets or what not, eh
I've learned from playing so many AK game modes that what i thought were wastes and would rather reverse resources being given to specific ops have resurfaced to help me in rare cases
it's very different when pulling for shit though
hmmm, i think I'll skip this....hmmm, Jessalter use. Sure why not.
me when borrow exists
I’m confused how I’m supposed to kill Free with this
TN4 spectacular
it's not about borrows. It's about if it's a hassle or not
which one is free again
I just noticed I had the wrong limiter 
i thought you were still coping because pulled for jessalter
oh zuo s2 solo’s if u can bait the 5k arts dmg attack
so you "found" use for her
coping for Jessalter?
i pulled her solely for base
netted me quite the gains
raised her to e2 60 because she was a decent choice in IS4 pre-Ed4
he just kinda dies
i think i stalled him with mountain on cn
does your shu not tank with ptilo
Nope
zuo s2 
Zuo s2…
I might try to stall Free with Mountain/Gladiia under Shu grass
can sum1 help me beat tn 4 ultimate this is wut my roaster looks like
What are you gonna cook with your roaster?
tn4

just use degen and win
there's nothing to really cook since she has almost no cd on skill!
thank you dalao🙇
not fast enough! I want it to be as quick as Saga S2 with constant minions feeding it!
How do I bait Free cross explosion?
Stainless s2 is free
Last deployed doesn’t seem to work
Free targets the last deployed (or taunt) and the farthest
I put Shu last and Zuo still explodes 
its a cross explosion....
and its arts...
shelter can only do so much
if you managed to deploy them in a row, well of course someone will explode if both 2 targets align
it's the same Tal issue
try not to compact your ops
It says on farthest target. Not last deployed target
Obviously I didn’t put them next to each other
Huh, why is that info missing
Free targets closest and farthest with the cross
it has nothing to do with last deployed
here's the thing
Free's "range" is shit. He just ignores it when attacking the farthest
thats why you think closest is the target
That's always how the boss worked
what's your record for tfn with casterknights?
You can check PRTS for Free's info and translate if you don't believe me
I'm busy with RA
I mostly skipped doing Casterknights for events since its release
I'm still busy trying to figure out if you can one-act mineshaft crawl
the SP rec buff is just so good with Degen
ok.....would you look at that.....Lumen, let's go!

although to get these benefits, that means Insider will be a....filler. worth it i think
the only consideration is some good stalls for the last enemy so Lumen can be relocated
Chalter can also be it
wouldnt chalter malfunction
Chalter can indefinitely have S3 active
as long as no one survives in her area
Lumen and Chalter can make sure there's an ammo-type ability active anytime
Somehow cleared Spec. I can do the same strat for ultimate right? 
I can’t place Shu down otherwise Zuo will be forced to bait 
I can try dropping Suzu for a second tank but idk if Degen alone can kill Ya
how did you all clear HS-EX-6?
Ines & kill the mobs on the middle poop water
CM will make fun of your Ines of past
Yk tifon solos the right side
what is the blemish attack priority, it seems to not attack my latest deployed op
I didn't change the strats at all for cm still works lol
eh i didnt wanna use her
so i used SA to reveal
team?
i just used ines' dagger in the middle and used ray to kill shit
but idt you can copy that
idk what dagger does
U dont need any reveal ability here tbh
elaborate pls
i mean yeah i overcooked
If it works it works
e2 poz and e2 mudrock
I even used abshinte and nearl to afk here
Ur ops mile away better dont mind it
don't put him there
i'll think what to do with this a bit later
My internet snail af this week, still cant load ur last pics
Kroos on the bottom facing up btw, retreat her when first buffalo come near her, amiya on top right to kill rats
Ok finally can load the pic
Why does it feel like the 2nd map is harder than the 3rd map in TfN4?
is it just because of Pompeii?

oh yeah the pink clouds don't help much either
its a bit of a menace to be shared on more than just 1 fight
you probably didn't abuse white clouds
pompeii is a joke, but ratking oneshots can still be problematic i suppose
ratking is a lot easier for me
i think it's because my Ines Surtr and Ray spawncamps his spot
u can use gg and silverash to kill rat king
typhon kills him peasily





