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lyric sphinx
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definitely not anyone that has come out between may 2023 and today

civic bear
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lumen heals 1 by 1 so he get distracted healing fia. add one more healer to heal mizuki exclusively

civic bear
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yes

lyric sphinx
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alright i'll try that and let you know

flat plaza
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question

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can't monster just solo boss wiht like exu or gg support

mild wind
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boss is hugely buffed in CM. youll see it deal more damage than kal be able to heal it

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solo is unlikely

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even my hoederer with medics cant withstand

flat plaza
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do i have to borrow ceobe fr?

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can i just use typhoon s3 or nah

mild wind
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ceobe can conveniently camp its p1 on spawn and p2 somewhere in middle

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alternatively you can shred p1 from start, bring a brick like hoshi to tank it and slowly kill it

but you cant access this

flat plaza
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wait hosi can tank it?

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how can hosi tank it if monster cant

mild wind
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obv mon3tr got alot lesser DEF than her

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then again you have to layer like a medic or two

civic bear
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if you hit enough times it gets lower enough to -3200

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so on CM its 1600 atk

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hoshi would indeed tanks better ye

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hoshi modx1 would take like 400 dmg per hit

flat plaza
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so what do I do specifically

civic bear
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whos the best defender u got

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or rather their level i guess. if not high then just go dps route

mild wind
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theyre both guardian defenders

civic bear
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then yeah just ceobe twice

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kill retreat redeploy

flat plaza
civic bear
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guardian cant do it

flat plaza
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can boss be frozen

mild wind
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thing is they dont have damage to lanehold bunch of waves so integrating their roster, i tried to put ranged dps. GG to damage, NG to heal and pump to cleanse water.

regardless of where i change it, ceobe cant be conveniently placed on a tile she can hit p2 safely

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if only bro has a tank

civic bear
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show squad/op list

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i wnna see

mild wind
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rest behind are e1

flat plaza
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i thoughts laneholders were my strength

civic bear
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seems like it should be able to lanehold CeobeConfused

flat plaza
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the only defender i have semi-built is cuora

mild wind
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there are bunch of blight releasing mobs and like one pump. a single NG can barely keep thrm alive

civic bear
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whats ur pump setup

flat plaza
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I haven't attempt, but i don't have a lot of pumps though?

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I only know that point them all into middle

civic bear
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its the 4 pump facing toward the 2nd column from the rights no?

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not middle middle but middle right

mild wind
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this is second try because the first didnt work either

civic bear
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yeah brah CeobeConfused

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setup on the right column instead

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dont touch the middle at all

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kill everything on the 2nd column

flat plaza
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do i need units behind the pump or no

civic bear
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this way every blight is gone real quick

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no

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just dont touch any mobs on the middle column at all

flat plaza
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ok who do i use to hold bot

mild wind
civic bear
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he does dw

flat plaza
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sustained damage as in what

mild wind
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who do you propose? thorns gavial both facing down camping blue box?

lyric sphinx
# civic bear yes

tried it, now my mizuki bagpipe and thorns get overwhelmed and leak some of the big bois at around the 380 mark. would shifting my fiammeta down by one square and putting ifrit in her place be viable?

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also i might add a healer for mudrock

mild wind
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i did see somewhere a single fucking humus almost solo every waves

civic bear
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something like this

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its fine if you want to kill the middle column but in exchange dont put pump on the middle two connecting

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the mobs that goes right side is not that many so 1 or 2 ops and then retreat can do

mild wind
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whos deleting the miniwave the boss spawn on bottom

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i used yato pretending its his phantom

civic bear
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kaltsit?

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kaltsit can just be flex

mild wind
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so the pump is on thorns' right

civic bear
mild wind
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shes in between the throttle

flat plaza
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are there rats

civic bear
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probably top because thats where the bulk of waves are iirc

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but facing right also valid so you can chip down boss in both ways

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checked map

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you can indeed just

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burst the boss p1

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but dont kill it

flat plaza
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why

civic bear
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to control the revive phase

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since when its reviving it summons bunch of rats

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if you spawnkill you might get overwhelmed

flat plaza
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uh so do i burst

civic bear
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just try it first

lyric sphinx
civic bear
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golden glow would be ideal

lyric sphinx
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placed under fiam?

civic bear
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no

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on top of lumen

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that tile doesnt get hit by anyone

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facing right ofc

mild wind
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hey look

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we gameing i think

lyric sphinx
mild wind
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although theres some splitbox fucking up on bottom so gavial didnt hit

lyric sphinx
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we might be cooking

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i'll try this asap

crude oak
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Talk me in/out of Horn's module

pallid veldt
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do you use horn

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no

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so dont get module

sterile chasm
civic bear
crude oak
pallid veldt
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the base part is completely useless

crude oak
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I do have someone blocking, at least in RA2

pallid veldt
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if ur getting it its for defender buff

crude oak
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I see

pallid veldt
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most players only have 1 defender in their team and its shu anyways

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or maybe 2 and its shu and hoshi

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so no real need to spend 12 mod blocks for that

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horn is a shoehorn op in 2024 anyways

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at least in general content

mild wind
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its merely more statstick and nothing else. thats why if you still insist to indulge sunk cost fallacy, you should hop to mod3

crude oak
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Well, I'm using her for this event, she was useful in IS2/3, and she's used a lot in RA2, but I get the point

dusty cedar
pallid veldt
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IS2/3 are dead content

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RA2 can be cleared with literally anything

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fortresses do fairly well in this event yeah

dusty cedar
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wait lemme clarify

pallid veldt
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but i think its the exception and not the norm

dusty cedar
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its good IF you intend to MOSTLY use her as S1 sustain

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for s3 or s2 i have no experience

crude oak
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I usually use S1, S3 was for bosses

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I mean, she's E2 90 M6

sly drift
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Didn't expect this jumpscare sir Bnuuy
Any advice?

pallid veldt
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if you are playing IS3 youd get more mileage per resources out of s2m3 than mod3

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imo

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assuming your m6 is s1 and s3

crude oak
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But if the gains aren't worth, then I wait for her other mod

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S1&3, and I'm done with IS3

pallid veldt
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yeah so horn is a dead operator

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her only claim to relevancy ever was basically IS3

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and we have better options now and coming up for outranging ed1

dusty cedar
pallid veldt
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m6 is pretty standard on a lot of 6*

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no reason to commit to sunk cost fallacy

dusty cedar
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true2

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though id argue module lvl1 might pair nice with her s2

crude oak
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If I use the op, it's not a waste

dusty cedar
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buuuut yknow

crude oak
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And metas change

pallid veldt
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if you arent playing IS3 you should never use horn s2

dusty cedar
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why

crude oak
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Yeah, and I only did when E1 and she was my only Melee

pallid veldt
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the purpose of s2 is to help her not die of cringe when shes blocking like 3 enemies

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s1 and s3 are both better in their own respective use cases for ranged damage

dusty cedar
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true

pallid veldt
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back when horn start was actually decent in IS3 s2 saw a lot of use

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but horns beginning to show her age

crude oak
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S1 is a good AFK general skill, S3 for burst

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I dunno, still using her

dusty cedar
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s1 is like walmart eyja, s2 if u wanna use her as melee to, s3 is pew pew

crude oak
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I know RA2 can be whatever, but she's still solid

pallid veldt
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sure but you can use anything and be fine in the event and stuff

dusty cedar
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i used her s2 once, firing all bullets was rlly satisfying

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her s1 is miles better than s2 in ra2 tbh

pallid veldt
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yeah s2 might see some use in timed records

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but i dont think thats really in the relevant scope of things

crude oak
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I'm ready for Walter

pallid veldt
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fr

dusty cedar
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braindead button here we go

sly drift
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How do you guys even beat strange territory

burnt quail
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PLS😭

sly drift
narrow pendant
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Yk the base thats used in strange territory is perma right?

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See the little base node under your main hq in normal map? Thats the base used for strange territory

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SoSkadiDaijoubu

sly drift
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So you guys sane human build two base? Bnuuy

lyric sphinx
# civic bear late but yea

tried it, the last two enemies manage to get past mizuki, bagpipe and thorns, kill my gladiia to then get killed by mudrock. where could I add more dps to prevent that from happening?

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the anni is cleared but to make auto deploy more effiscient

vivid rain
glass monolith
civic bear
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you can still put another op on top of gg or under fia

lyric sphinx
dusty cedar
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hey you have a fia, put her somewhere to help mizuki

lyric sphinx
dusty cedar
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my bad

lyric sphinx
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no worries

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i feel like w under fia maybe? to stun

dusty cedar
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retreat myrtle and place chen behind shining for the last 2 enemies

modern plover
rigid idol
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who's better in the long run? max pot wanqing or myrtle at pot 2? just wanna know if he's worth spending the next week trying to max

dusty cedar
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cant beat myrtles dp cost

rigid idol
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he'd cost 8dp at max, my myrtle is only pot 2 rn 🥲

delicate flare
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I ran flags when I was new and got fucked over by early game rushes

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💀

spice mortar
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You can beat 90% of the game without flag

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I only use poncirus as vg for example

rigid idol
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yaaaa a veteran friend just suggested myrtle would be better anyways, ig ill just focus on clearing the shop for mats instead

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thankyou both tho!

spice mortar
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And besides myrtle is a rec op

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So you will get max pot eventually

delicate flare
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agent supremacy (they're so pretty)

foggy grove
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Wanqing is better than myrtle but like whatever

quick pecan
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real

glass monolith
sullen rover
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eww theres 2 4 stars in ure team

glass monolith
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Couldn't care less

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Damn boss is so fast it take god damn 3 minutes walk before it is in spot where i set up killing it CeobeConfused

fossil storm
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Need help with HS EX 7DocSmile

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Help with HS EX 8

polar zodiac
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I think ling can solo that stage so idk, just help her abit ig

narrow pendant
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Why is ling in that squad

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Anyway, ling solos

fossil storm
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She solos the Boss stage ? Dang...

glass monolith
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Never underestimate how far Ling nerds push stuff... Also event is sorta ez

narrow pendant
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That also includes the S stages

fossil storm
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Is my ling levelled enough ?

narrow pendant
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Keep her at lvl 60

glass monolith
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Just copy Ling clear and use operators as back up ChenShrug

narrow pendant
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And she may not be able to solo if thw clears are closw callls

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But u have 11 other slots to help

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Ao

pallid veldt
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do u guys think 3 e1 medic are enough to heal for HS EX 8 CM

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i dont want to borrow medic but i might have to

glass monolith
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Heal what exactly? HellaKek

narrow pendant
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A brick?

pallid veldt
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my tank

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yeah

glass monolith
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Does tank survive boss? Can you unpolute all waters (which has enemies in them) so ranged enemies die of cringe?

pallid veldt
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i am molting the boss before it hits my tank so that my tank can survive yeah

glass monolith
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Practice plan exist

pallid veldt
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yeah ig ill just try

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how many hits does krooster do over an entire s2 duration

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assuming shes always hitting a target

glass monolith
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I think she has like half of duration doing x4 hits with M3. But i never really measured

sick knoll
fossil storm
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Help I can't clear Boss stage hs ex 8

whole hearth
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pretty sure theres an arturia s1 afk clear somewhere

glass monolith
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AFK clear of what? Not EX-8 with amount of ranged enemies (causing some players to complain which i find funny)

whole hearth
glass monolith
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Oh Afk with other operators... Fair enough

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(Walks into corner of shame) FiaDed

craggy turret
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I dealt with the boss itself with mlynar + Typhon

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Here's my squad + placement, it works for challenge mode too. Just make sure to place Lin after Typhon and u should be good. Could prolly replace nightingale + whisperain with just eyjalt (you'd place her on whisperains tile then, to avoid the projectiles). If you are gonna be going for aoe medic + medic in those middle two tiles, then hold off on the aoe medic till the boss' phase two so you have a deployment slot available to deal with the enemies the boss spawns. Lin can deal with the trash mobs if you time your skill uses well enough.

flat plaza
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where should you kill boss first phase in ex 8 of shu event

mild wind
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DIDNT WE HANDHELD YOU HOURS AGO

vital arrow
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First time?

mild wind
scarlet fulcrum
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He has multi acc and personality

sullen rover
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kawaii muffin is a group of a people who trolls in ako not a single idiot noted

shut hazel
sly drift
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What to do then

narrow pendant
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Iron is past the emerald pass

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To unlock that, u need to do day30 boss and kestrel rescue and talk to guys in base

fallen chasm
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anyone know h12-3 clear strat

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ive been on it for like 2 hours now

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that stage is so aids

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4 fckin clones

civic bear
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show box

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would depends on what you got

fallen chasm
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wait what box

civic bear
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unit

fallen chasm
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gimme a sec

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discord is not loading on my phone

civic bear
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ok that looks doable

fallen chasm
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idk

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my brain cannot clear this

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what support should i take

civic bear
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borrow eyjas1 if you want a more handsoff approach

fallen chasm
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what da 2 m--m at the bottom

civic bear
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m can be either left or right doesnt matter. would be able to hit 3 clones eitherway

fallen chasm
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is the top medic

civic bear
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just dont put units adjacent

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ye

fallen chasm
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im supposing the B is mountain or smth

civic bear
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mountain not best at it

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ideally zuole

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this only relevant for 4th clone btw

fallen chasm
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zuole not s3m3

civic bear
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because beforehand the only mobs on the right are the crossbowman which only requires 1 texalt deployment iirc

fallen chasm
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i took a break and i havent cleared 13 so i cant unlock his m3 mats yet

civic bear
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zuole s2

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well any defender+healer works too

fallen chasm
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no mastery works right

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kalstit works i think

civic bear
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kaltsit is good too yeah

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you plan to kill it fairly fast

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so the one holding this lane doesnt matter too much

fallen chasm
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so i just throw all the dps at it at the start and hope it dies

civic bear
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block setup like above

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and then dps it everytime it is not invul

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dont blast all dps at once

fallen chasm
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ok ng skill timing is s2 or?

civic bear
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you go phase 1 100-75-50-0 revive 100-50-0

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s3

fallen chasm
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kk imma go try it out

civic bear
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can surtr too

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hits 3 clone

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aoe deals a lot of dmg here

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cuz all clone share damage

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if still dying obviously can add another medic 2 tiles below ng but 2 should be fairly good enough

fallen chasm
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kk

civic bear
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defender can be gavialter instead

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facing left or right to hit the other lane

fallen chasm
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wait for the beginning how do i setup the block

civic bear
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gavialter gots increased healing so she's as tanky as defender basicly

fallen chasm
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just random bullshit go?

civic bear
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start from the left

fallen chasm
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i mean the civillians

civic bear
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the civilian you want to block as many as possible

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its to increase dp cap

fallen chasm
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ikik

civic bear
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block or have a cheap op that has huge range

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still want to block eitherway tho. dont need every single civ. just enough to fund your deployment

west kraken
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For HS-EX 3 challenge, what are you supposed to do here? Once enemies start dying your entire board gets blighted?

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Are you forced to run a tank heal heavy comp?

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The blight is a bit too much once one enemy dies and there's no tile to block the water

civic bear
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unironically

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theres 2 pump that spread dirty water. 3 cleans

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if you dirty up any one of em it becomes 3 dirty 2 cleans. meaning they stop cleaning up the bottom lane

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so you separate the map into "3" parts

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bottom
top left (the 3 sections)
top right (the 2 sections)

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use a tank that wont kill the big guy at the top right (defender+medic or healdef)
then kill the mobs at the existing 2 blighted up water

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and handle the bottom lane as usual

fallen chasm
civic bear
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h12-4 is a bit more complex

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cuz bigger map

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but

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similar core strat works

sly drift
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Where's the boss, the monolith or whatever it is. Can't find it

civic bear
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you get the idea

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mlynar can be at the green check facing right to hit multiple bodies

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but u need the top clone to be on the right of the blocker

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so you want to swap blockers while letting it walk a bit

gentle sable
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can anyone help me clear h13-4
i can do first phase easy but 2nd phase is where it gets hard
lining up the bombs is midly annoying and when i do istg i do 0 damage or only half ish then the boss kills shu

civic bear
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what was ur setup

gentle sable
civic bear
gentle sable
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Thanks

civic bear
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feel like this is just a timing issue

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buti understand if you want a more leeway strat

dapper hedge
civic bear
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you dont have a problem with the mobs right? purely just the boss phase 2 remaining

dapper hedge
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There's 3 waves, the boss on show up on the 3rd

gentle sable
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i also tried out exec alter over blaze and i kinda like it more although i needed texas alter or someone else to give him the shu tile

civic bear
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you're not doing the early wave 2 start right?

gentle sable
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i do wave 2 after 34/72

civic bear
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i meant as in

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is the boss with wave 2

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or boss alone when you push the cart

gentle sable
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the boss i think was with wave 2?

civic bear
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then yeah you're playing normally

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"easiest" way is to have a better bomb timing

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and squeeze out 4 bombs

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exalt definitely better

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try to set up your phase 2 with mlynar facing right

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and then exalt on shu tile instead

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facing right

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you want to blow the load all within mlynar+exalt skill

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and degen

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the small slugs is kinda overwhelming but i think virtuosa covers that

rigid idol
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why do people say not to upgrade office in base? is it purely a waste of mats or does it actually affect things?

civic bear
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it uses up power

rigid idol
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ahhh i see

civic bear
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which in 252 means higher factory level

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not that you need 4 slots of recruit either

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since the bottle neck is amount of recruit permit

rigid idol
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yaaaa thats understandable, just didnt wanna break my base or smth. thankyou!

gentle sable
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oh we can squeeze out 2 bombs out of one?

civic bear
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ye

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click the tower and then wait until it sp goes back to full

gentle sable
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so smth like this?

civic bear
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mlynar can face right

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would hit eitherway

flat sapphire
gentle sable
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Mk

civic bear
gentle sable
past ravine
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I need some help with WI-9

civic bear
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iw9

solemn delta
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@past ravine tip send the map ss and ur squad

forest lagoon
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use yato alter s3 DocSmile

solemn delta
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Wud help u but got work now but use reedic s2 DocSmile

past ravine
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Kinda

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I can get the boss to 10% HP left

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My skill is already lvl 7, should I increase my reed lvl from 1 to 70 ?

scarlet fulcrum
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Just borrow better one then done, u are not farming this stage anyway

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Or yato alter s3

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Doable with urs ops and e1 reedic, just throw more stuff there and survive laser on phase 3. Dont forget to bait the tail and lightning

civic bear
rose patrol
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now chong can survive the artillery SkadiDaijoubu

hasty pebble
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what is wrong with this stage? you know, I'm not playing 4* here..

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i have zillion of delete buttons and yet

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time to record the stage and optimize skill usage timings

civic bear
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U need to maximize hit count

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It's the gimmick

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Passenger eyja not exactly known to have lots of hitcount

acoustic slate
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You letting them walk so much before hours start damaging them too

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Ideally you nuke them at spawn and give DoT time to work

civic bear
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Also ur arts dmg dealer are too focused on the right. Left need some too

hasty pebble
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I admit it: it's skill issue. or rather an attempt to bruteforce the stage.

glass monolith
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Laugh in "can be hit only with arts damage" tea cups

wide sail
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one of these guy has like 30 hits right

nova wing
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InI my run I got ifrit & warfarin combo.
Ifrit s2 got infinity charges shooting down

solemn delta
narrow pendant
stable hollow
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What module should I get for dusk? I don’t intend to do any specific strategies so just general use. They both seem appealing

bright tendon
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may i ask it here? how do i create this? what software or website it use

solemn delta
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dusk is pretty shit tho

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can speak from experience

civic bear
stable hollow
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Alright thanks. Yeah I’m late game.

civic bear
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the other mod effect is too 🤏 its at best 12% atk 😂

civic bear
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what a sad mod

past ravine
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But I gave up

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I manage to get the dragon to 10% HP on his final phase, but then it burns all the tiles and my ops can never survive that

solemn delta
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u wanna borrow my reedic?

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or surtr

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whichever u want

past ravine
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So then I have to rely on my ranged units that clearly don't have enough DPS to finish it

solemn delta
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u never did show me ur squad

past ravine
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I'm already using both reed alter and surtr but thanks 😔

solemn delta
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yes but ur reed alter is e1 im assuming so no m3

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that kinda makes a big diff

past ravine
solemn delta
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just add and u can use a e2 reeds2m3

past ravine
past ravine
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Yeah nah I can't

solemn delta
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Vic#7097703

past ravine
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I'm borrowing surtr

solemn delta
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u dont need surtr if u have reedic what

past ravine
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Wait seriously?

solemn delta
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yes

past ravine
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But how do you onehsot each wave with only reeds balls

solemn delta
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do u have jaye

past ravine
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I do, but not built

solemn delta
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do u have kal?

past ravine
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Nope 😔

solemn delta
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can u take an ss of what u got so i don't just mention ops

vital arrow
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cant you just

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show your op

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instead of beating around the bush

past ravine
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I was hoping to pull someone today from the limited banner since I hit pity but I got a shu dup 😔

solemn delta
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bro u have shu

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u can do this easily just show ops

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just sort by rarity and take a screenshot of ur ops

past ravine
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Here

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I have most 4* so no need to show them I think

vital arrow
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honestly you need more raw levels

solemn delta
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u have virt aswell wtf

vital arrow
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like at least get them to like lv30

past ravine
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Don't got the ressources 🙏😭

vital arrow
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since you have like, no dps

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no virtuosa isnt a dps

past ravine
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😔

solemn delta
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you can do just raise the level a bit of ur ops also where are ur meds?

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nvm didnt see 2nd pic

vital arrow
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I mean you can just leave it for late

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its not like the event is going away

gray axle
#

surtr can solo ex8cm if you just give her medics

pallid veldt
#

chat does this work with broca 🫡

solemn delta
#

shud be even easier since u have reedic

sly drift
nimble cloak
#

I love runs like that

solemn delta
#

love blemichi surtr wont die vids

glass monolith
narrow patrol
#

Rate my squad for my current is4 run. Just finished the first boss and I’m on floor 4 (I know, forgot to replace ansel and set silence to s2)

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Relics

sterile chasm
#

you could prob trade king's buckler at a lost and found, but the others ones are fine as is

narrow patrol
#

About tranquil spring current if I trade that will my max life go down also?

sterile chasm
#

no

narrow patrol
#

Ok so I can trade that or kings buckler

#

?

sterile chasm
#

yeah

narrow patrol
#

Ayt

sterile chasm
#

the rarity you trade in influences what you get out (i think)

narrow patrol
#

Hopefully I don’t get that one cursed map with the Ursus artillery drones

#

That’s the one map that keeps ending my run after first boss

#

Restricted area? I think

sterile chasm
#

yeah, it's kinda annoying

#

but degen could prob burst one or two down

narrow patrol
#

Emergency was worse

#

ELITE Ursus artillery drones

pallid veldt
#

anyone know why mayer bot can hit the guy even though its not being blocked

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and also why mayer bot doesnt hit him if mayer is metastatic

#

lmao

glass monolith
#

Splitbox bullshit

narrow patrol
#

I think I’m on the last floor

#

Red boss node means final boss?

glass monolith
#

Block area is circle. Tile is square. I know at least 2 maps where enemy diagonal movement would allow them to avoid blocking from 2 tiles

pallid veldt
#

but mayer bot doesnt hit if mayer is metastatic

glass monolith
#

What the fuck is "metastatic"?

pallid veldt
#

metastatic abberation

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like the IS3 debuff

#

-50% all stats

glass monolith
#

Maybe this specific enemy decided to walk pass dog and it is some frame/lag/star alignment bullshit

smoky halo
#

metastatic is a buff for kafka ‼️

glass monolith
#

I had auto fail because enemy walked out of range of La Pluma after she started attack causing her to miss

sterile chasm
#

it's how turning is calculated

pallid veldt
#

but i dont see why metastatic should change anything

#

like the pathing of all the enemies and whatnot stays the same right

sterile chasm
#

yeah

glass monolith
pallid veldt
#

true 🫡

narrow patrol
glass monolith
#

On Yostar servers fireball mage was cutting corner and hitting pillar when in CN it wasn't etc

narrow patrol
#

Assuming I don’t get boned on the way

sterile chasm
#

i think dr. silvergun has a video on it

glass monolith
#

Well Silvergun had video about pushing enemies with blocking

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And CN current event fucking hole boss with block pushing HellaHands

sterile chasm
#

yeah

#

movement pathing is something

glass monolith
#

I feel like every other summer event boss is complete meme

smoky halo
narrow patrol
smoky halo
#

do u not know the degen timing?

narrow patrol
#

Degen got fucked by that mirror dude

smoky halo
#

u had ines degen

#

unless they dont have m3

narrow patrol
#

No m3 for degen

smoky halo
#

u should be able to cycle

narrow patrol
#

Ines has

smoky halo
#

oh lappphone

narrow patrol
#

S2m3

#

Degen

#

Oh wait

smoky halo
#

ines is just for the dagger

narrow patrol
#

You said m3 like mastery?

smoky halo
#

ya

narrow patrol
#

I should have avoided this map

#

Last floor shouldn’t have taken that risk

#

Ahh well

#

I can confidently make it at least

smoky halo
#

i mean if ur just aiming to clear once sure

narrow patrol
#

At least I know I can actually make it to the last floor for ending 1 at least

smoky halo
#

if ur aiming to clear multiple times u should take maps u have less experience in so u can get better

narrow patrol
#

First ending clear to unlock deep investigation

smoky halo
#

ah

narrow patrol
#

Wanna use that to fuck around with unknown maps

smoky halo
#

try borroeing reed too

narrow patrol
#

Degen start

smoky halo
#

or are you borrowing degen

narrow patrol
#

I won’t be able to borrow reedic

smoky halo
#

sadge

narrow patrol
#

Was using the promote ops cost no hope

smoky halo
#

huh

#

how would that matter

#

degen and reed both cost 7 hope

narrow patrol
#

What would be the recommended start in that case?

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6 hope to get but I won’t need another 3 to promote em

smoky halo
#

ah right 6 hope is base

narrow patrol
#

Yep

smoky halo
#

personally i prefer support squad

narrow patrol
#

I’m also still filling out that tree or whatever it is

smoky halo
#

and just buy offensive relics

narrow patrol
#

Support is the one with 8 hope and 20 money?

smoky halo
#

ya

narrow patrol
#

Ayt

#

I’ll do it again later was able to at least get that 3 t4 salt

smoky halo
#

but free promote squad good too

#

it just depends on play style

narrow patrol
#

I’ll try to borrow Reed and pray I can get a guard early then I guess

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And have enough hope by then

smoky halo
#

reed can carry first 2 floors as solo 6 star

narrow patrol
#

Ayt

#

S3?

smoky halo
#

i just take s2 at f1

#

since its e1 opener

#

u would want to take s2 in unwell and beasts too even if u have e2

#

oh i think u also take s2 in no more than four

#

but i still lack experience there

narrow patrol
#

Ayt

halcyon idol
#

ight i got enough of ex-8, any other strat? i tried kyo one but Ethan rng is just too much, my luck sucks

#

(CM, forgot to mention)

narrow pendant
#

Sum sum when all fails fall back to blue woman

halcyon idol
#

yeah tried ling too but its not max pot or w/e so timings don't match

#

ssibal

topaz mist
#

regular texas

halcyon idol
#

i was kinda prepared for this delusion max tho, i barely made the normal one out of pure luck

narrow pendant
halcyon idol
#

i don't have texas raised

narrow pendant
#

I did with pot1

craggy trench
#

For HS-8, is it possible to kill all the rats on the top before they reach the end or nah?

lapis hornet
#

yes

#

use smth like mlynar

#

/some other aoe nuke

#

eyja worked for me

lapis hornet
#

chalter probs works

#

lin

narrow pendant
#

Lot of ways, yes

craggy trench
#

Hmm, guess I'll just overkill them

#

Is there any other strategy with dealing with those rats besides just use strong unit?

narrow pendant
#

How else can u deal with them except killing them

craggy trench
#

It just feels bit disappointing when strategies just boil down to just use a bigger stat stick to beat it

spice mortar
#

I mean ofcourse there are ways to kill them with lower rarity

#

But its just gonna be lower damage

#

And maybe like a staller or 2

narrow pendant
#

U cant even use a staller cuz u cant deploy ops there

lapis hornet
#

you don't have to use bigger statsticks

#

what you're asking is kill them asap so ofc to do that you need more dmg

#

it's not rocket science

#

or some super stall I'm not thinking of rn

#

otherwise you just accept that they gonna lag your phone and do more conservative strat lol

sly pivot
#

just use virt the cancer field instantly kills them...

#

and no explosion

#

🥹

cunning river
#

Any tips for challenge mode 8 before I start wasting sanity?

glass monolith
#

Uh... Waste practice plans

#

Also as long as extra stats don't murder you - you might just get away doing same shit again

cunning river
#

The normal run was pretty close

ripe girder
#

I'm am a risk taker

tulip nimbus
#

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET THESE

#

I have silent vestiges node on a save day and have been save scumming the shit out of it and YET it wont give the FUCKING GOGLES

#

am I missing something?

#

I literally did every choice

#

is there TWO different encounters called silent vestiges?

glass monolith
#

"may be obtained" BlitzSmile

#

Also imagine save scamming has locked in RNG seed

#

I don't know if it does but i jsut want to throw salt at you for fun

tulip nimbus
lyric sphinx
#

sup, tryna clear 9-19 normal mode with this setup. when mandragora reaches c7 I knock over the pillar on her and deploy mon3ter on b7 but i'm lacking the dps to finish her off. Who could I add and where to make sure that she gets fully killed off?

#

everybody here is e2l60 with skills m3

noble pewter
#

Maybe thrm ex CardAyy u have like so many more slots right

lyric sphinx
cyan gorge
#

Yeah

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Use THRM before dropping the first two pillars

lyric sphinx
#

why before the first two? i have no problem killing off her first phase, it's at the second phase that she kills my mon3ter and survives with a sliver of hp

cyan gorge
#

Save all pillars for phase 2

#

Those + THRM kill phase 2 by themselves

rose patrol
noble pewter
lyric sphinx
fiery marsh
#

That is one strategy that is like stalling and slow killing mandragora's first phase, and killing phase 2 only with pillars.

#

But thermex should work fine

noble pewter
#

Thrm applies a debuff called fragile, it amplify all dmg taken by those affected

fluid fulcrum
#

uh

#

guys

#

how do we unlock the 4th zone in RA?

#

ive cleared the entire map and the time golem

#

still i cant seem to access it ?

#

am i missing anything ?

narrow pendant
#

4th?

#

Theres only 3
The jungle u start in, oasis to the right, and top left

#

The bare area above your HQ has nothing yet

celest bluff
#

What these guys supposed to be

pure orchid
#

click on the node and check enemy info BagThumbsUp

celest bluff
#

I mean what is gathering strength

#

Why are they gathering strength near my base

pure orchid
#

if you dont kill them now, they will grow in number

celest bluff
#

God damn Dublin

glass monolith
#

Texas, claim their bones HellaKek

thorny sentinel
#

Has anyone ever made an is3 relic tier list? Does that sort of thing even exist?

glass monolith
#

Does it increase your chances of not dying? Then maybe pick. The end CeobeConfused

#

Also IS3 gave me PTSD because of which i don't start IS4 still

thorny sentinel
#

I’m just tryna choose between glass bird and vanilla soda maneee😔

vital arrow
#

Theres no relic tierlist wdyn

#

You just pick based on your needs

sullen rover
#

relic tierlist for is3
survivor contract > others

vital arrow
#

Me when I put bloodbath at S rank and someone doesnt draft any guard

wind onyx
#

guys, can i have some setup in desolate interception point?

rigid idol
#

is there anything available that shows me the best characters to raise? im onto 5-1 now and low rarity squads have practically carried me, so i wanna replace them with better characters lmao

glass monolith
#

Well arknights is game of if it works it works, why it is so cursed comes second RedOmegaLul

#

Side stories Dossoles Holidays for Tequila ("Mini Mlynar") and Invitation to Wine for Kroos Alter (Exu but Kokodayo also mini-stuns)

scarlet fulcrum
#

Do HS event, build base and workers. E2 ur 6* dps

#

There are lot stuff to grab from HS event shop

rigid idol
#

okay awesome thankyou both!

scarlet fulcrum
#

Also there will be new boss rush event in 7 hrs. Grab freebie there, (if u prepared enough)

rigid idol
#

ohh nice ill give it a try! i have e2 zuo and ayer, and a moderate handful of raised characters, so hopefully im prepared enough. tyyy!

scarlet fulcrum
#

Yeah sure, u can also borrow there

rigid idol
#

oh word thats pretty sweet

scarlet fulcrum
#

Just do HS event for now, farm the the mats from node 9 8 and 7

rigid idol
#

yaaaa been farming hs-7 for the past week, ill try and clear the store 😅 thankyou!

scarlet fulcrum
#

With even e2 modless zuole auto hs-9 should be doable. But yeah sure ig no need to force u

rigid idol
#

bigger levels are scary tbh hahah, i guess i could try it

scarlet fulcrum
#

Make the boss molts a lot on 1st phase with other ops, urs will tank easily after

rigid idol
#

oh its the boss level?

sly drift
#

Trash boss level (literal garbage)

scarlet fulcrum
#

Yeah, make sure to read the kit after practice plan

glass monolith
#

Boss is "As soon as you can block him, he is free" tier

mortal hamlet
#

Hi all. Is there an updated sheet for headhunting parametric model sanity values for each of the items offered in the shop

glass monolith
#

I doubt they changed much unless chapter 13 added much better farm spots

main dune
#

Yo is there any way to fully restart in the sand? I'm like 100% soft locked in it bc I didn't really know what I was doing and then I got attacked and now I cannot restart from far enough back to not die immediately

main dune
#

I love you

#

Genuinely I will pray in your favor thank you

#

You will get W'alter in your first attempt

#

Goodbye now

stable canyon
#

Wipe Save is not a super fun experience, I think I'm on my 3rd attempt and there's unskippable dialogue x_x

narrow pendant
sterile chasm
stable canyon
#

I guess?

scarlet mortar
#

i mean if you rollback saves often enough you'll hardly run into unskippable dialogue that often

#

in proportion

elfin river
#

Guys, any idea which units should I upgrade to max to deal with this 7-9? Checked Kyo's guide, and I'm considering upgrading to max certain ops, like Myrtle.

violet heron
#

yeah ngl that map was heart attack inducing

#

I just dealt the middle lane mostly with snipers

celest horizon
wintry hinge
#

Heralds appear in the middle

celest horizon
#

wait nvm, I thought the dogs would run down the center

#

remembered wrong

violet heron
#

also they walk for a while before entering the blue box

#

so you got time

celest horizon
#

this stage isn't that hard RosChill

elfin river
#

The mutts are the issue.

celest horizon
violet heron
#

mutts?

celest horizon
elfin river
#

Some low rarity, and some mid and high.

celest horizon
#

you don't need myrtle for this stage

wintry hinge
elfin river
# violet heron mutts?

The mutts there that come first come too fast and swarm the sides. I'd need to setup more ops to protecc those areas.

celest horizon
elfin river
#

And I checked Kyo's guide and there's the issue with the snipers at the end.

#

Max I have Beagle and Liskarm.

elfin river
#

Lemme show you

tight quest
elfin river
celest horizon
tight quest
#

Is there anywhere I can post my head squad and get opinions on it?

celest horizon
#

in general though, 6 stars are better than their 5 star counterparts and 4 stars etc.

tight quest
#

👍

violet heron
celest horizon
#

but there's some outliers and if you're going resource efficient, you normally wouldn't even need to raise 5 stars

violet heron
#

yeah those dogs are super fast

celest horizon
elfin river
celest horizon
#

you can raise spot and cardigan

stable canyon
violet heron
#

ceylon NotLikeIfrit

wintry hinge
elfin river
#

Not yet Spot.

elfin river
celest horizon
celest horizon
#

should have enough dp

tight quest
#

Ok

wintry hinge
violet heron
elfin river
#

I'm currently upgrading Myrtle and will do Spot next.

wintry hinge
wintry hinge
elfin river
#

And I use Virtuosa due of her necrosis and delay effect she has. She carried me far.

celest horizon
wintry hinge
celest horizon
#

yep, you have enough dp

#

to deploy cheap defenders

wintry hinge
elfin river
#

Once I get to max the other two, I'll try again.

celest horizon
elfin river
celest horizon
elfin river
#

(I mean Skyfire)

elfin river
#

I use her behind Beagle to prevent 5+ mobs get past.

#

And if I needed to do a fast kill, while I prevent even more, I use Midnight.

#

I put him behind Liskarm.

#

Used them like this at 7-3.

elfin river
#

(thinking of upgrading to max cute foxgirl)

#

Seems I'm already upgrading cute foxgirl. I'll E1 her tomorrow, ig.

sleek verge
#

"Here's the basic mode for this event!" *game immediately hands me my ass*

open hazel
#

I need help with this

silver summit
#

For normal one?

open hazel
#

yea

#

I guess I need friend who has penance

silver summit
#

Someone got it at friend id ig

open hazel
silver summit
open hazel
#

I only see lvl 7 skill

silver summit
#

U can also use blaze btw

open hazel
#

which I need is m3

silver summit
#

U can also bring other operator that can hold lane and block 3

open hazel
#

I see

#

thank you

sly drift
#

She seething

tired onyx
#

i need help with h13 4

sly drift
#

Not again

narrow patrol
#

Holy shit cliff was something else

#

Dealing with degen wasn’t too bad

#

But then the map went to wave 2 and I was…. Wait what shit all my ops are facing the wrong way

#

XD

cyan gorge
narrow patrol
#

His phase 2 is nasty. The kill and dash resets if he kills an op or you retreat em while they’re stunned

#

Only way anyone is surviving that is if he is hit by one of the 3 heat vents since that lowers both his defense and attack so you’ll actually be able to survive it

#

That was the mechanic from the Jessicat event iirc

strange hazel
#

also dollkeepers and tactician summons don't trigger the dash

narrow patrol
sly drift
#

The easy way is you can cheat it using shu to prevent dash or typhoon to follow his dash

narrow patrol
#

Shu is NOT surviving him if he ain’t in a heat vent

#

I learned the hard way

strange hazel
#

i might be mistaken on which boss it was but i think it was this one

sly drift
#

Shu dies only if she on his range lol

strange hazel
#

yeah i'm almost certainly right

narrow patrol
#

Honestly this is the first time I’m facing him. I can see the grief he caused

strange hazel
#

i recall considering beanstalk for my half-optimized boss clear but realized it wouldn't work out

smoky halo
#

just use beanstalk

#

zzzz

strange hazel
#

my clear was a durnar + roberta + mousse stall for a no repeat

smoky halo
#

4 star.player?

strange hazel
#

yea

smoky halo
#

dalao

strange hazel
#

though i cheated and used 1*+2* in addition to 3/4*

#

makes no repeat runs so much easier

narrow patrol
#

bait fodder?

#

What’s cliff’s range?

#

2 squares all around or 3?

strange hazel
#

2

#

if an op is 3 tiles away they're safe

#

which is how the 4* optimized clear works, instead of actually tanking clip it's just an indigo/haze/click montage

narrow patrol
#

lol

#

I think I see what you mean now

#

And that explains why Ines gets violently blasted

#

I’ll uhh figure something out

strange hazel
#

outside of 4* typhon probably ruins him

#

my guess is ray does too

smoky halo
#

ray does too ya

narrow patrol
#

My issue really is picking and kill zone since we NEED to have him in a heat vent to reasonably kill him

smoky halo
#

no?

#

i brute forced with sham poze

narrow patrol
#

Maybe I’ll try a Ray borrow

strange hazel
#

oh right he has 3500 def

smoky halo
#

its doable to brute force with 6 stars

narrow patrol
#

Ok maybe a pozy borrow works

smoky halo
#

ew no

#

just borrow ray

strange hazel
#

both vent reduction and arts + res down probably do it

narrow patrol
#

I do NOT own a pozy

#

lol

smoky halo
#

why would u borrow a worse op then

strange hazel
#

also res down + just surtr might work lol

smoky halo
#

clearly ray > poz

#

huh res down where

#

vent is -70% atk and def

strange hazel
#

oh i meant some operator to reduce his res which isn't that high to begin with

smoky halo
#

ah

strange hazel
#

'only' 70 aka brute forceable

narrow patrol
#

Iirc cliff without heat debuff has even more defense than Patriot

strange hazel
#

i believe it

#

3500 def is definitely more

smoky halo
#

patriot is a joke anyway

#

theres literally an op with 6k dph

narrow patrol
#

I’ll try a Ray borrow

#

Doesn’t she murder high def enemies?

strange hazel
#

windchimes?

narrow patrol
#

Was trying typhon tho it was s2

smoky halo
#

she bypasses high def by virtue of high dph

#

she does not kill high def

narrow patrol
#

Like she can single cycle Patriot right?

smoky halo
#

with mod ya

#

her main drawback is low totl dmg

strange hazel
#

i do not think wind chimes s2 is recommended to kill 2k+ def enemies

#

but it does somewhere around the 5.5-6.5k range

smoky halo
#

😭

#

windchimes propaganda is real

narrow patrol
#

…..

#

Still

#

I’ll try that

#

Later

#

lol

smoky halo
#

she dont have range and will just die anyway

vivid rain
#

Still weaker than dorothy s1 anyway 🥱

strange hazel
#

honestly i'd just do cuora roberta stall and call it a day im lazy

smoky halo
#

wouldnt bubble be better

strange hazel
#

bubble's better, you're right

#

but i keep forgetting about that

#

actually there's safe tiles for indigo/haze on this map

smoky halo
#

clear is clear anyway YA

strange hazel
#

i could just use them and beanstalk this time

smoky halo
#

beanstalk gaming

stable canyon
strange hazel
#

challenge challenge mode

open hazel
#

I know this is not strategy related but may I ask what is the order to clear this shop ?
Since this channel doesnt have cooldown mode

strange hazel
#

also i'm only a year in and i don't have to waste tons of resources in another niche

#

also compared to other niches it has a ton of variety

#

i wouldn't call it one but some ppl do

stable canyon
#

I crutched on my 6 stars and then hit a hard wall when I was missing certain roles, I've been having to go back an level my 3*s to fill the gaps. Been playing since like.. January I think?

acoustic slate
#

Lol no problem

strange hazel
#

for the very basic roles, 3* work

open hazel
#

my friend dropped her account to me so I have no idea what to do lol

strange hazel
#

but most subclass have some 4* operator that fills the basic role of the subclass well, even verdant

#

it's just that his subclass' job is not extremely impressive

stable canyon
#

Ahh

#

I just "discovered" beanstalk and that's been fun

strange hazel
#

4* can also do 98% of content and some are better options in niche situations than 5/6*, which is untrue for 3* outside of IS

#

beanstalk's main utility is body blocking with an immortal crab which can sometimes cheese mechanics

#

if you're doing gravel stalls sometimes you can set up an infinite loop with the crab and some other fast redeploy if you time things right

#

usually ppl do that to dunk on certain bosses or strong enemies with slow attack intervals

astral cosmos
#

did i hear wind chimes

strange hazel
#

someone brought up damage per hit

astral cosmos
#

ah
lemme go test wind chimes dmg rq

strange hazel
#

unfortunately i don't think it has many practice uses still

#

can't kill the slugs in ch13

#

meanwhile franka sometimes can

astral cosmos
#

i forgot what ch13 slugs are

strange hazel
#

infinite respawning ambers that have like 4k def and 4-6k hp

astral cosmos
#

oh those

strange hazel
#

you're not supposed to kill them but true damage is true damage

stable canyon
#

"Five stars are where good ideas go to die" - my partner

strange hazel
#

my aciddrop keeps getting distracted whenever i try to somehow kill them

#

that's fairly accurate from the little ive played with 5*

#

good idea bad execution and it's ruined forever

astral cosmos
#

basically 5* gaming

astral cosmos
#

or 3164 idk i didn't see really well

strange hazel
#

oh must've misremembered

#

but that's pretty good though 😄

astral cosmos
#

3124

#

mb

#

I always forget if adverse also has the 1.2x enemy stats
in which case they still survive her burst anyway SkadiDaijoubu but anyway hp drain gets 'em

jovial nest
#

this is the first time this has happened, right?

worldly stirrup
jovial nest
#

all 4 are usually available from the get go

worldly stirrup
#

There is unlock condition for other 3

#

I just cleared TN-1 and already unlock all of them

tidal sedge
#

for is2

#

i guess my question is what these choices lead to

#

i know one is a collectible

#

also wasnt sure if i was supposed to ask this here or if the wiki tells blatantly

wary wing
jovial nest
#

pick it

tidal sedge
#

word

jovial nest
#

also for is questions in the future

#

go here

tidal sedge
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awesome, sorry about that brother

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thank you for the help

cyan gorge
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TN1 was easier than I expected

wide sail
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shadow deserves some respect

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most based relic

jovial nest
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this is now unlocked btw

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ever since Sows event was blindsided twice

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anni map. Hope we're given panels because this is not ideal for the bottom part

ivory leaf
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My options aren't good aren't theySkadiDaijoubu

sterile delta
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do you have shu and/or saria

ivory leaf
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Yeah I do

sterile delta
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ah

ivory leaf
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I could go for a shining or bag