strategy

[latent monolith]

Compared to other alternatives like mlynar

Or exalt

[dusty cedar]

Doesn't S3 expand range?

[latent monolith]

S3 doesn't expand her range so she can only attack in her normal one

It expands aoe not range

[dusty cedar]

For a melee unit, it's fairly wide

[dusty cedar]

True true

[latent monolith]

It's not fairly wide it's the default one tile range on S3

[dusty cedar]

Still wide for a melee unit imo

[narrow pendant]

She needs enemies in that tile to even attacj and stack her dmg

And with her expanding aoe and stun, she makes it not possible for them to come so she can continue attacking

Kinda

[latent monolith]

It's basically high dph low aspd gavial S3

[narrow pendant]

Im more hyped for narantuya instead than pepe

[dusty cedar]

Oh definitely, Narantuya

She's like modern Exuisai

[narrow pendant]

Also people just milked the pepe meme so hard its not even funny

[latent monolith]

"pepe is a fool" - namie

[fallen terrace]

How do i freakin do Illusions in the sand in IS4

[latent monolith]

What's that

[dusty cedar]

Narantuya is special too because she's a ranged unit who you want to place more aggressively

[fallen terrace]

The invitation letter in IS4 for ED4

[dusty cedar]

Exu can at least S3 from afar, Narantuya wants to take advantage of her talents by being closer

[narrow pendant]

Have ranged ops, fortify the sand castles

[fallen terrace]

This one

[narrow patrol]

So hammer cat girl is just okay. Not broke AF compared to say. Walter

[dusty cedar]

She's above okay, definitely the most AOE melee unit of all time

[fallen terrace]

The Invi Archer is destroying everyone

[narrow patrol]

Narantuya is the regular op?

[dusty cedar]

Not a laneholder with auto attacks though

[celest bluff]

Pozy deserve an m9 or m3?

[narrow patrol]

Like… zuo Le in shu’s banner?

[dusty cedar]

Besides S1 or S2 was it?

[narrow patrol]

April?

[dusty cedar]

Nami's child is not regular grrr

[narrow patrol]

F

[narrow pendant]

M3

[fallen terrace]

Imma try it again

[narrow pendant]

Archer only attacks the ones in sandstorm

[narrow patrol]

Ohhh

[narrow pendant]

Fortify the sand castles

And yes, invis reveal is quite good for that stage

[latent monolith]

Mizuki being the standard op in a limited banner be like

[fallen terrace]

Thnx

[narrow patrol]

I very lost

Nami’s child?

[narrow pendant]

Pepe, mizuki and gg are drawn by Namie

She calls them her children

[dusty cedar]

The beautiful bbys

Would you guys put Zhou Le in laneholder category?

[narrow pendant]

Hes the best laneholder in the game

So yes

[dusty cedar]

Doesn't Ulpi exist?

[narrow patrol]

Oh

[dusty cedar]

No wait, I'll agree with you

[narrow patrol]

Yes but uhhhh that kinda mostly applies only if you got the other AH’s I think

[dusty cedar]

True

[narrow pendant]

He doesnt yet
And hes for AH fans

[dusty cedar]

Fun seeing Ulpi as stat stick monster though

Have you guys heard his numbers?

10k+ HP and +2k DPs or something

[narrow patrol]

Full abyss team ulpi is bs

[narrow pendant]

Yes, doesnt matter really

[dusty cedar]

Me spreading misinformation

[narrow patrol]

From what I heard. Then again full ah in general is crack. Now if only Spalter wasn’t locked behind Limited

[dusty cedar]

He's definitely the unit of all time, not Wisadel tier

[narrow pendant]

Lets waste like 3 slots so ulpipi can be useable instead of using those slots on good ops

[dusty cedar]

But like, if you want a flashy stat stick

[celest bluff]

AH without Ulp already crack

[dusty cedar]

Gladiia alone is enough though

Spalter doesn't need to be used

[narrow pendant]

And zuo alone is enough already too

Why bring ulpi and gladia when i can bring zuo instead

[dusty cedar]

I agree, just saying though

[celest bluff]

Idk? More than 1 lane needed to be hold?

[dusty cedar]

It's funny that the easier the stage the less easier for Zhou Le

[narrow pendant]

U have another 11 slots for that

[dusty cedar]

He wants really hard stages

[civic bear]

i mean ulpi glad combo is quite good

name 2 op combo that does better

[narrow pendant]

Ofc, im not saying its not

Im pulling ulpipi too

Im just saying hes not worth getting unless you want/like AH

[dusty cedar]

FRDs, Mlynar+Gavi, Degen+Warf, Wisadel+Any op hehe

Just messing, yeah those two are good

[celest bluff]

I always forget that Phantom is a 6* frd

Or he exist

[dusty cedar]

I read that he'll be bonkers with IS module

Err... only in IS

[celest bluff]

A module specifically only buff in IS?

[narrow pendant]

Who would bring him over the other 2 tho

[dusty cedar]

Yeap!

[narrow pendant]

Yeah, kal getting it too

[dusty cedar]

Him along with Kaltsit

The cats

[celest bluff]

IS2 is like....

[dusty cedar]

Huh...

[fallen terrace]

Which should i fortify?

[celest bluff]

You mean it buff him in all IS?

[dusty cedar]

I believe so

[narrow pendant]

The IS mod works in all IS

Same for kal

[dusty cedar]

Module will be IS exclusive though

It only takes...

No, not mats

Literally just 3 module blocks

[latent monolith]

Kal'tsit

ATK +50 | ASPD +7

Can summon and heal Mon3tr. Mon3tr has 25 seconds redeployment time.
Kal'tsit will prioritize healing self and Mon3tr. If not within Kal'tsit's Attack Range, Mon3tr's DEF is reduced to 0
In [Integrated Strategies]:

• Mon3tr doesn't take deployment limit
• Mon3tr gain +50% Max HP, +50% ATK and +50% healing received

Phantom

ATK +71 | ASPD +7

Can summon a clone with higher stats. The clone has the same skills as Phantom and has a separate redeployment time
In [Integrated Strategies]:

• Clone doesn't take deployment limit
• Upon deploying clone, reactivates the effects of Phantom's passive skill (up to 8 times)

[dusty cedar]

It's fairly dirt cheap

[civic bear]

feel like its just the classic "new toy" hype thing 🤷‍♂️

[latent monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1023919645855596575/1268462489536823366/image.png?ex=66af2640&is=66add4c0&hm=1a183d49e535b74d8f7358a53f9c9a73e931a3bac464534074cd5b7641307745&

It's cheap ye

[dusty cedar]

Shit I'm not complaining hahah

[celest bluff]

Okay cheap af

[latent monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1023919645855596575/1268462377159102525/image.png?ex=66af2625&is=66add4a5&hm=307f2262fade79431a261d7afcd6acd84352ce6106cb72f40efdf190eca9be1e& base effects

Seems p good tbh in a vaccum

[celest bluff]

Yeah summon not using slot and that stats bonus is like effect of relic

[celest bluff]

I be damn if it stack

[fallen terrace]

Thnx

[narrow pendant]

That will make the snipers go around and in the ranfe of the invis revealer

Cuz fortified block ways

And that one in the middle will break, letting snipers thru

[narrow pendant]

They should go like that

maybe, i havent even tried ed4 yet

[fallen terrace]

E2 Ptilopsis Cant outheal the damage

[narrow pendant]

[fallen terrace]

Ill try D0 first

[celest bluff]

Next time borrow a frd

[fallen terrace]

Whats FRD?

[remote perch]

well what do you expect when they're under the sandstorm

[celest bluff]

Who are the e2 sniper and medic

[fallen terrace]

E2 5star black Birb

Grey throath

Almost forgot her name

[celest bluff]

Greythoart

[fallen terrace]

E2 Reedic and E2 Ptolipsis

Using snipe/medic squad

Does the Sandstorm wind change randomly?

[remote perch]

perhaps

[fallen terrace]

So it can be done on late game.... so doing it on Second stage is Suicide?

Uggg FML

[glass monolith]

Should be scripted

[celest bluff]

I use 2 supporter and a sniper to kill the rat on HS-8

[latent monolith]

Sandstorm changes are scripted

[celest bluff]

Can this use less units?

[vital arrow]

Eyja
Chalter

[celest bluff]

Have none of those

[vital arrow]

Idk who you have

[celest bluff]

Can pozy solo the rats

[vital arrow]

Maybe not

Maybe yes, you should try it out

[narrow pendant]

Have 'Turia?

[celest bluff]

Uhhhh..
What class?

[vital arrow]

Arturia

Virtuosa

[celest bluff]

Yes

[narrow pendant]

Mb lmao

[vital arrow]

Try her

[narrow pendant]

Her+glad s2 to keep the rats in place worked for me

[celest bluff]

She clear all rat by herself?

[vital arrow]

No she needs help

[narrow pendant]

Or suzu

[celest bluff]

Gladiia?

[narrow pendant]

Yea

[celest bluff]

S2?

[narrow pendant]

..yeah

[vital arrow]

Thats exactly what they said

[celest bluff]

Yeah okay

[vital arrow]

"Glad s2"

[woeful pawn]

For HS-9 i only have 1 polluted region but still no trimmed whats the condition?

[narrow pendant]

Or u can replace gladia with suzu

[celest bluff]

(Edited)

[vital arrow]

Have 1 polluted region

[narrow pendant]

Dont let more than 3 areas get polluted

[woeful pawn]

i only had one area polluted wait let me ss once i finisht his clear

[narrow pendant]

From what i experienced, they cant be polluted at all, it doesnt count if you clear them after being polluted

Theres an easy arturia+penance clear with trimmed

Theres also ling solo(as usual)
Zuo solo

[woeful pawn]

i got the non trimmed one, trying to improve it

[vital arrow]

Just kill the top mobs on the middle area

And kill the right side mobs on the platform

[narrow pendant]

Or bottom right

[woeful pawn]

Ye i did that but when u kill them on top of the separators does it count?

i had 2 polluted regions at the end

[vital arrow]

Then kill them faster

[woeful pawn]

nvm it has a tick with trimmed

but i thought trimmed makes the medal chromatic

[vital arrow]

[polar zodiac]

[vital arrow]

No

[woeful pawn]

💀

[vital arrow]

You just see the text

[woeful pawn]

lemme kms real quic

sorry everyone

[vital arrow]

If its says trimmed its trimmed

[woeful pawn]

kk

i might be able to complete this medal set

[timid schooner]

uhhhhhhhh

welp try to evade encounter from now on ig

[celest bluff]

E1

You...

Didn't even try

Bro didn’t even cook

[rocky kelp]

stage only appears if you grab the ed4 item

[celest bluff]

Still is trust farm for pozy (just have her 2 days ago

[narrow pendant]

Oh, quibai user, how is she
Got her from shu banner and im liking her so far

[celest bluff]

Usable

[narrow pendant]

[celest bluff]

Generally I don't use her much, because I have those 2 big damage frd

Her skill cycle is perfect timing for this stage

Quite a lot of damage but damn

55sp cost at s3m3

[civic bear]

her type is to unload once and switch

[celest bluff]

+104 aspd on max cap, target 3 enemy

[smoky bear]

What module should i unlock for Passenger?

[polar zodiac]

the one that improves his sp regen

[dusty cedar]

Wet Chen starter, how do I position everyone?

[rocky kelp]

who else do you have

[dusty cedar]

Oh wait, top side should work, but which skill? S1 or s2

[narrow pendant]

Chalter starter for is3 is something

[dusty cedar]

Durin and Spot

I'm going for a15 ed4

[ivory leaf]

Is wanqing worth it to use?

[rocky kelp]

i would do this. s2

@dusty cedar

[narrow pendant]

Better myrtle, ely sidegrade
If u have a flag raised, then no need

[ivory leaf]

I guess no need cuz I already got a myrtle

[narrow pendant]

If shes like e2 s1m3, then no
If shes like e1, u can consider it

[ivory leaf]

Okehh

[dusty cedar]

Thanks! I'll try this after uncrashing my phone

[dusty cedar]

E1M3, also bring Myrtle Ely Canta and get unlimited DP
Disclaimer: YMMV

please don't actually do that

[runic quiver]

which gummy skill do I use for is?

no one cared in help, in here still no one cared smh

[ivory leaf]

Already did

[dusty cedar]

He's too powerful...

[ivory leaf]

No more suffering on dp

Should I M2 hoshi mod or just focus on another mod?

[noble pewter]

sorry im late reply but in case u were wondering how i end up doing it, i found out the wind blow different direction each time, if i have invis revealer i dont need care pathing of enemy n just need protect square to deploy invis revealer, if no invis revealer then i must make pathing sniper past thru the revealer device

i did an ines start by borrow other ppl vg and if she is e2 she can solo whole stage if low difficulty, as her first hit always bind n enuf time to kill

i have also tried horn s1 n it work well too, cause the sniper n deadmark inflitrator walk together most of the time n the flare can reveal them

[rocky kelp]

rare to have invis reveal at floor2 or 3. I normally just always guide through the mid and focus on getting a ranged 6star

[final pasture]

Is there some operator particularly useful for IS4 ending 4?

[rocky kelp]

i like ray alot, ceobe is good on high dif

[final pasture]

Oof not having them

Btw the item for ending 4 sold in the shop is not appearing in the shop 100% the times right?

[rocky kelp]

I think it might be a guarantee in floor 1 shop but im not sure

[final pasture]

Not seeing it rn at floor 1 at least

[rocky kelp]

unlucky

ye normally with reroll i almost always get it floor1

maybe my luck is just cray tho

[noble pewter]

i only did low difficulty for ending 4, but i saved all battle foldartal for it, then i used thorn as i dont have any other fancy high phy dmg unit to kill ludzargas from bot, shieldguard taunt far away, i also grab treescar helm to avoid squad limit penalty, then duel khagan with kalsit monst3r n shamare doll debuff, i also had king lance n since the event minus my hp n give me objective shield i think that helped me with +50 atk spd as well

[rocky kelp]

which one is khagan

[noble pewter]

red one on left , he has high phy low res, but low res is actually 50 res n it will +50 again if yellow guy dies, if any of them die, the other person gets +2k def +50 res +100 atk spd +mvdspd

[forest lagoon]

s1, her s2 is quite bad

[rocky kelp]

i normally kill red dude with reedalt s2

[final pasture]

So should kill red one first (?)

[rocky kelp]

kill both at same time preferably

doesnt need to be exact, just bring both low

[final pasture]

Wait how do you kill with Reed S2 when he hits so hard 🤔

[noble pewter]

for me i kill yellow guy first, cause he is unblockable, very annoying

i decided to insta kill one of them cause i had friendly shieldguard, u dont need worry the aoe land on u after one guy die, they will keep artillery striking shieldguard top n u can deploy bot safe, so u can setup easier after one person died

[rocky kelp]

his dmg from what i remember stacks based off hits, so if you place someone in front and behind then use reedalt s2, along with her healing they live a while even on d15

though on d15 my blocker there is often surtr anyway

[noble pewter]

if u leave them both alive, u need watch out the aoe strikes keep happening on the field, cause they will tagret each other n they keep walking around, so almost whole map not safe to deploy

[rocky kelp]

i dont have ceobe

[final pasture]

Aight

Seems like a big pain on d15

[rocky kelp]

on the contrary if you kill one, not only is the other one buffed, but the remaining boss is targeting your ops instead of the other boss

[noble pewter]

not if u have friendly shieldguard buff, they r tanky n taunt permanent

the artillery strike land top, whole bottom area safe for u to setup kill

[rocky kelp]

oh thats what you meant, ye makes sense

sorry i cant read

[noble pewter]

so what i did was put thorn bottom right with one healer, n shamare, then keep debuff to survive ranged atk n slowly whittle him down, use fast redeploy to defend left, then after right side die, i setup lkalsit left n debuff with shamare as well

but i got lucky as i had relic make shamare doll 100% uptime

[rocky kelp]

I think IS3 ed4 is actually harder tbh, at least in is4 ed4, you are able to avoid the mechanic to the best of your ability. for example I will block the yellow boss before he nukes the red guy if I am fighting the red guy etc

doll 100% uptime seems goated I havent tried that before

[final pasture]

The doll helps so much huh

2nd shop still no relic

[glass monolith]

Ending 4 clown fiesta is out already? But... I didn't even start IS4 for real yet

[tall birch]

what is the best way to deal with this stage? i keep on losing when i encounter this in is3 😔

[rocky kelp]

ideally your texalt is e2 and you just ground the dudes in the 3x3 with s3

[tall birch]

she wasn't upgraded there so i had a hard time LOL

[rocky kelp]

then may facing up to ground the seaborn dudes from top right

then just bait the drones out of bottom left

i normally dont have a defender so ill just end up using ops i dont need for the rest of the stage

if you do all that then virtuosa + blockers will kill everything

[tall birch]

ohh i see ill try that next time, thank u

[rocky kelp]

anyway your main issue is the drones from the left, just bait them next time further away

np

[distant bough]

Since I always bring Eyja in my runs she claps this stage

I put her here facing up and she kinda clears the stage as long as you give her enough sustain

Couldn't you do the same thing with GG now that I think about it ?

[tall birch]

thats true LOL thanks for pointing it out 🫡

[distant bough]

No prob, juste make sure she doesn't die from the drones

The targeting is kinda weird so sometimes she'll just let herself die to the drone to kill a random dog 💀

[latent monolith]

Just use S1 if you want her to hit in range

[narrow pendant]

Just drop degen in the middle

[left pecan]

Help to beat HS 8 pls, preferably with no support bc i want to farm the mat there

[latent monolith]

Gets deleted before she can turn on her skill

[distant bough]

Wait for DP and drop a medic as well ?

[narrow pendant]

Wait actual tru

How do i do that stage

Lmao idr

[latent monolith]

I don't think a medic is going to outheal all of them

[distant bough]

That stage is kinda ass, I usually just throw boddies + texalter until everything dies

[distant bough]

Oh yeah I forgot they all attack 💀

[narrow pendant]

I dont actualy even rmb how i do the stage, but i dont have problem with it

[latent monolith]

The solution is to texalt half of them

Then do the other half in the next deploy

[rocky kelp]

lol thats what I would do in my runs too

but I dont think its needed unless like d10 +

[latent monolith]

Pretty sure even at D0 texalt gets one shotted if you put her in the middle

Like before she stuns them

[rocky kelp]

really? I dont remember for sure, but logically speaking if she is able to live on only one side on d15, then she should live vs all on d0 I think

[latent monolith]

On one side you have 3 enemies hitting her, in the middle you have 8

And the shieldguard although idk if their attack would land

Idt normal enemies triple in stats by d15 at that floor

[rocky kelp]

she would be getting hit by 5

one of the times

I dont remember if the shieldguard even hits her in time tbh

[latent monolith]

They have 1.3 tile range, if you place her to their right only three will hit her

[rocky kelp]

oh

[cyan gorge]

She lives at d7 but any higher yeah she explodes

[latent monolith]

oh mine must have been lower level back then

[tidal sedge]

lungmen commercial district (anni 16 ig)

i borrowed typhon to handle right lane she was doing good but started to leak after a while i need like 3 laneholders ig lmao

is there anyway for me to get rid of drones with ease?

[vital arrow]

right lane?

or left lane?

right lane is just bullies

[tidal sedge]

and also the lane next to it

[vital arrow]

also please post your roster

idk what to work with here

[tidal sedge]

i knew she was gonna leak but

[tidal sedge]

a sec pls

i dont have many ops built tho

[vital arrow]

I still need the roster

[nocturne cove]

Use def for the swarm of flies and sniper and aoe caster to kill everyone else

[vital arrow]

thats a lot of unraised base worker

[tidal sedge]

yeah ik

[vital arrow]

shoudlve raised them first

borrow a mudrock or penance

[tidal sedge]

so

i used typhon to cover those 2 lanes at right side

zuo le at middle

mountain at left side

[vital arrow]

no one is blocking anyone there

youre bound to fail

and you dont have enough damage

whats killing you

[tidal sedge]

should i put mountain there?

[vital arrow]

mountain at right side

he'll die on left side

mountain camping right side spawn

actually on second thought, borrow chalter instead

[tidal sedge]

this lane right?

[vital arrow]

no

right lane

the rightmost lane

[tidal sedge]

alr

[glass monolith]

https://youtu.be/GmVs80BwQXQ?si=HZWIFwK59QkCm_1k

[tidal sedge]

watched it

i dont have chongyue

nor ntr

(he doesn't use her tho)

also my zuo le is not fully built

[vital arrow]

pretty sure that needs mod3 zuole

[tidal sedge]

where zuo le and mlynar?

[glass monolith]

I personally had:
Weedy yeeeeet all right side
Fia Thorns NTR unexist entire left red box. Gladiia as bait for drones and rockets
Random bullshit to kill circus of charge bullies

[vital arrow]

I wouldnt use zuo le

just borrow chongyue

[tidal sedge]

you said borrow chalter

[vital arrow]

notice he doesnt have half of those ops

[vital arrow]

I changed my mind, you dont have a consistent dps

chongyue camping mid with cuora blocking behind him

GG S2 also camping mid

[glass monolith]

Well I am in no condition to baby sit that Anni anyway

[vital arrow]

ugh I'll just open the game

[tidal sedge]

i dont have masteries for s2 tho is it okay?

[vital arrow]

m3 only adds like 15% dps

[narrow pendant]

You shouldnt have them evem

Its +15% atk at m3, nothing else, its awful

[tidal sedge]

alr

[vital arrow]

whch part is killling you

[tidal sedge]

i can't handle every lane

that's the problem

im gonna try chongyue as you said

where do i put him?

[vital arrow]

middle

[tidal sedge]

gonna slap mlynar to rat king ig?

[flat plaza]

@tidal sedge have you tried borrowing fiametta

[tidal sedge]

no

[flat plaza]

i think that's a better borrow

[vital arrow]

fia works too

[tidal sedge]

ima try

[flat plaza]

fiammetta should cure all your problems

cause she basically kill everyone going toward left

you just need something to deal with rat king

and someone to hold the guy on right

[vital arrow]

can you add me, I'm cant finda non modded non m3 zuole

[tidal sedge]

hold on im about to beat it

or nvm

chongyue died

ima try fia

[tidal sedge]

i dont have masteries too tho

im doing my doro's masteries

[vital arrow]

yes I am looking for a non m3 zuo le

because you dont have one

all my friends have mod3 and s3m3

[tidal sedge]

people use s3? i thought s2 was main

[vital arrow]

the tryhards do

[tidal sedge]

alr what's ur nickname

and which skill you want?

[vital arrow]

Kerf#0066

s2

[tidal sedge]

k

@vital arrow sent

[vital arrow]

yeah i got iit

[vital arrow]

ok zuole ended up being useless nvm

[tidal sedge]

hmmm

alr

gotta use my lupo

did you use gummy?

[vital arrow]

toplane helping chongyue for a bit

after lappland is in place you can retreat her

[tidal sedge]

also how did you kill drones?

[vital arrow]

what drones

[tidal sedge]

like the healing ones

[vital arrow]

i dont'

[tidal sedge]

alr

i suppose you also didn't use ft

[vital arrow]

I tried replacing he with zuole

ig it doesnt mattter

just bring 1 more medic

as bait for the sandstorm

[tidal sedge]

alr

[vital arrow]

bring like

lancet or justice knight

[strange fable]

@pallid veldt heres a vid of the shifting i did

Idk why but its not consistent

[vital arrow]

anyone with low max hp

[strange fable]

sometimes ines hits sometimes she doesnt

[pallid veldt]

why is shifting so cursed :icant:

[tidal sedge]

when do i use mlynar skill

[vital arrow]

for the guys that summon 2 drones

[tidal sedge]

k

[distant bough]

Is H11-4 considered hard 'cause I have the most disgusting strat of all time rn and I feel like I have to be doing something wrong 💀

[vital arrow]

what stage is that again

[distant bough]

Last Steam Knight buffed

With a lot of annoying sarkaz enemies and corruption shits

[vital arrow]

yeah

its kinda hard

depends on roster

[strange fable]

I think its decently hard

[distant bough]

That's the one I've been trying, I managed to clear it on practice after probably an hour of trial and error

[vital arrow]

usually the strat is just

facetank it with nian

and shining

[strange fable]

This doesnt facetank?

I pretty sure shining s2 + skalter + modded hoshi afk stalls

[distant bough]

Nightingale + Hoshi + Skalter + Shining ?

[strange fable]

NG for when he flies yeah

[distant bough]

Yeah it does

But idk, I kinda like my clear 'cause I figured it out on my own but it feels way too convoluted

It's basically helidrop spam to deal with most annoying enemies and the healing squad on top right 💀

[tidal sedge]

@vital arrow i got it thanks

[vital arrow]

okay

[distant bough]

Ok I cleared it it just took 9 minutes of stressful gameplay

[sterile delta]

ok so @merry iron where do you fail lol

main things are not placing operators next to each other and baiting the permanent disable

[merry iron]

I require a compilation of endorsed operators and their optimal deployment locations to secure victory.

[sterile delta]

eyjalter makes the stage much easier

[merry iron]

I see

[sterile delta]

the classic meta ops are good too

mlynar etc

remember that the boss takes reduced damage the more clones it spawns, but hitting multiple clones at once with aoe damage like mlynar repeats the damage dealt

[grizzled otter]

12h-4 right?
Exe alter top lane gud

[sterile delta]

personally i used abyssal team because the % damage reduction and health regen counters the def shred very well

ive seen kaltsit solo top lane as well

just redeploy mon3tr when the boss is transitioning to phase 2

[grizzled otter]

yeah 2 deployment slots tho

[sterile delta]

never had deployment limit issues personally but it could be a problem ye

oh and try to not open up another lane topside by breaking the two dp boxes

[merry iron]

Hmm, I see, I am grateful for your enlightening insights and suggestions. I shall now endeavor to tackle the stage once more.

[sterile delta]

good luck

[fallen terrace]

How do you even finish Tree Snatcher?

This boss scares me to death

[grizzled otter]

Just dont place above bottom 2 rows i believe? Then just stall him bottom right

#is-station more helpful

[rocky kelp]

just place all your ranged stuff on left side, and as far down as possible

and ideally have someone kill the boss after using stairs

[modern plover]

Literal typhon check map

[fallow yarrow]

Who is Kestrel? And is she any good?

I've never seen her before

[turbid badge]

no she bad

[dapper hedge]

Ra2 welfare and no

[sullen rover]

lol

[strange fable]

Broken

[tidal sedge]

Did they fix the Ange bug

[strong silo]

I just go all defense on the middle lane

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah they fixed on this patch

[tidal sedge]

Bruh

After how many years, they finally did it

[scarlet fulcrum]

In anticipation of RA2 ig

[tidal sedge]

Ange slides further into irrelevance. You hate to see it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Actually i had nice time with her regen

[tidal sedge]

Guess I'll fix this auto later

[scarlet fulcrum]

Wow which stage

Outer rings?

[tidal sedge]

The current annihilation. I ran out of skip tickets due to a small break and noticed the barricades weren't healing like before.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh yeah mountain border rings or smt

One of my alts also abusing ange actually

One of the funny feature gone now

[strong silo]

real?

she's my core dps back then for anni3

[fickle ravine]

If I put an operator behind the pumping station does it make these red field turn into normal state faster or it just increases the range?

[ivory leaf]

Both (I think)

[fickle ravine]

Thanks OwO

[turbid badge]

Nooo

[ivory leaf]

I'm crying I got lee instead of shu

[scarlet fulcrum]

[ivory leaf]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just pull on last day like me

[ivory leaf]

Idk if I should stock lee or E2 him

[scarlet fulcrum]

Will u use him? Watch showcase or borrow before u decide

[ivory leaf]

I borrowed him once and his S3 knock backs and does An Aoe damage (if I remember correctly(

Correct me if I'm wrong

[scarlet fulcrum]

On trash yea

His main kit dodge and immune to certain status tbh, welp sometimes the shift has the play

not ur main pick tbh, u can ignore

[ivory leaf]

Already E1 him🕴️

Nvm I will just use lee

[scarlet fulcrum]

Welp Someday u will e2 all 6* (maybe not)

[ivory leaf]

I have alot of free time so I guess I will aim on that

[tidal sedge]

Ch'en s1 animation is too long to consistently stop Secret Keeper 1st attack

Guess she needs a bit of aspd

[odd forge]

meh i wish i have fast deploy dps

[round hinge]

is mountain better than chonyue

[narrow pendant]

Not really

Maybe better if u want to just, put down and forget, but he easily struggles dmg wise against like, a lot

[wary wing]

so that's how ppl play when they don't have chars with 4k hp

[round hinge]

yea same still farming resources for my fast deploy

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not e1 gravel smh

[odd forge]

heh

[odd forge]

i just play AK three weeks ago

im planning to do E2 ceobe

[strong silo]

dadadada

[flint laurel]

What kind of levelinf is this

3 E2, a few low level e1 and e0 the rest

[odd forge]

heh, bait strategy

https://tenor.com/view/toradora-kitamura-glasses-heh-evil-plan-gif-21328862

[split cloak]

Any tips for a “no typhon “ clear

She’s a support and I wanna auto this

Don’t mind bottom left, i made a mistake

[narrow pendant]

Just, put horn on the ground tile

[split cloak]

S1 or S3?

[narrow pendant]

Gladia pull on the left bottom

[split cloak]

I know that, just made a mistake on my first run

[narrow pendant]

Im just sayin

[stark kiln]

s1 imo

[narrow pendant]

S1

More consistent dmg

[split cloak]

Aight. How abt my other ranged units placements, got any suggestions for optimized dps?

[stark kiln]

idk how useful ray is there

[narrow pendant]

It looks fine, id probably aim reedic to the right instead of down

[split cloak]

She wrecks those 300+ vehicles

[narrow pendant]

Ray is okay for the cars clearing, but otherwise not so much but thats fine
I'd aim her either to the right as well, or keep as is

And krooster can be either next to whisperain to cover the bottom ladder, or to h3lp monster

Same with arturia

[stark kiln]

monster can take the top lane solo i would save the dps

[narrow pendant]

And lin is whatever, probably can go above reedic to be the one attacked by the casters

[split cloak]

Nice, can help with cars too, thank you

Saria and whisperain wasnt even doing anything this run lol

Can gladiia solo bottom left? Or is the 6s cd too long later on

[narrow pendant]

As long as shes at least sl4 she can

[split cloak]

Yep, nice

[tawdry path]

would Angelina regen help the blocks by a significant amount

[narrow pendant]

No why care for block regen uf theres noone to hurt the blocks

[tawdry path]

so true

[scarlet birch]

@sage plover @sharp spindle @pallid bone

[sage plover]

what in the world

[scarlet birch]

4 minutes to cheese the boss

worth it

[sage plover]

I'm happy for you, or sad that it happened

[pallid bone]

that ur auto?

that takes a friccin long time

it's cool

[scarlet birch]

i found out like

after doing the stage 2 times

that you can cheese the boss with swire and eyja alter

[pallid bone]

what cheese? looks like normal fight to me

[scarlet birch]

just swire chipping away while the rest does their usual duties

a bit funny

[pallid bone]

i see

[vital arrow]

That doesnt sound like cheesing

But ok ig

[scarlet birch]

[narrow pendant]

That looks like 4 minutes wasted watching that

[pure orchid]

same lol

[odd forge]

no wonder i cant beat that stage

[worldly stirrup]

warf+degen really make boss easy

[delicate flare]

just ray it

[glass monolith]

I have Kroos alter, I will Kroos alter

[odd forge]

even i have pozy but my tank are 4*

[mild wind]

[sly drift]

What Ascension change khagan fight into "Into eternity" again? Forgor

[polar crane]

12+

[sly drift]

Surtr opening is unreal

[modern copper]

Should I e2 saria now or hold off till shu leaves banners

[radiant tartan]

Hold off

Since shu is better than saria in every way

And you can borrow sexas to clear event boss easily

[sly drift]

Saria s3 exist bro

[astral cosmos]

how are you trying to beat HS-9 anw

[modern copper]

Lemme screen rec

[radiant tartan]

Or mod3 lvl 90 penance for solo @modern copper

[radiant tartan]

Penance can solo it

With mod3

[astral cosmos]

arts amp?
just use fragile 👍 more worthwhile

[radiant tartan]

Lvl 90

[astral cosmos]

ig they'd want to auto it

[sly drift]

There were a time when I use saria + suzuran and it's barely enough

[astral cosmos]

shamare s1m3 angle

[radiant tartan]

What u guys talking about?

Event boss?

E

Why stop talk

[astral cosmos]

no just saria s3 in general

[radiant tartan]

Oh

Saria s3 is basically is a joke

Since most of the meta high dmg ops are physical

Chalter wisadel

Basically 2 most op operators

[modern copper]

Is it that bad

[radiant tartan]

Not exactly bad

But mid

Its not even worth using most of the time

Wait

Its not worth it directly

[sly drift]

Are you fking kidding me

[radiant tartan]

Most of the high dmg arts ops have some kind of res shred already

Surtr

Sexas

GG

Why need more?

[sly drift]

Yes shred work but when they don't shred enough. You will likely use Saria along with Reed if needed.

Most likely*

[radiant tartan]

If you are going up a high res enemy

Why do you use arts op?

[sly drift]

Because physical just doesn't work lmao

Let's say like cc11 or something

The surfer dudes

[tall sierra]

Shit... i missing 1 more my own sui ops to trigger 1 of shu passive

[radiant tartan]

Then sexas es percentage shred is already enough

[sly drift]

Tbh I used Saria in like.. almost every single CC I've played. It just how useful saria reduce mov speed + art amp is. And on top of that. The first uptime is very short

[radiant tartan]

But she is started getting outclassed

[sly drift]

By what?

[radiant tartan]

For slow+good dmg virt is better

And shu is shu

[sly drift]

Wisadel is exception lmao.

[radiant tartan]

We dont talk about walter

[tall sierra]

Saria still good

[sly drift]

Shu is staller. Not art amplifier

[tall sierra]

She herself very tanky while core in arts team or act as slow

[sly drift]

Yea

[radiant tartan]

If you need high shred you can just sexas it

Until logos comes up

Shu is just a lot better in most cases

[tall sierra]

So many good ops to save so little orundum

[narrow pendant]

Its not good regardless, dw

[sly drift]

For now just focus on Ela tbh. She won't comeback

[radiant tartan]

well i was gonna skip shu but got her and typhon back to back from daily pulls

[radiant tartan]

She might or might not

Since we are getting ash

Again

[tall sierra]

Dunno how good is ela

[radiant tartan]

High physical dmg

And good utility

[tall sierra]

Im not a fan of trap user

[sly drift]

Highest ceiling damage iirc. Yes, above wisadel exu and pozy + typewriter

[narrow pendant]

2k dph, 35% slow and fragile anywhere on the map

[radiant tartan]

Its kinda op

[tall sierra]

I will try get her then when she appear

[narrow pendant]

Ofc cant forget that u can place both her and her mines on high or ground tiles

[tall sierra]

Think it be 4-5 week?

[narrow pendant]

We dont know

Gotta wait

[radiant tartan]

I have like 150 epulls

[narrow pendant]

Ban

Spekulashion

[sly drift]

It's spoiler block

[radiant tartan]

Hopefully i can have the shu banner luck both on walter and ela banners

Whats the pity on ela banner 120?

[narrow pendant]

120 guarantee, yea
20 pulls free, so 100 of your own pulls

[tall sierra]

On jp, i see 120 pity

[radiant tartan]

I have like 90 saved up rn

Gonna have another 10 pulls from ex stages of the even and i also have like 70 yellow certs saved up

[sly drift]

Also remember that the chance is 50/50 lmfao.
Ash took me literal 120th pull

[narrow pendant]

Youll be fine, im at like, 70 pulls

Cuz i went 300 on shu banner

[radiant tartan]

Wisadel banner tho

[radiant tartan]

Imagine pulling for shu

[narrow pendant]

Is a long time ahead

[radiant tartan]

Just get her from free pulls

With typhon

[narrow pendant]

[radiant tartan]

[narrow pendant]

Dont xare

[radiant tartan]

Tho my ass is broke

[tall sierra]

Im at 120 pull saved right now, scared i might not enought for walter and logos

[radiant tartan]

Why e2 ing a 6 star op costs an entire contries budget?

[narrow pendant]

I got 4 out of 5 Sui siblings in those 300 pulls

Im satisfied

[radiant tartan]

Shu?

[sly drift]

Meanwhile me

Gotta fking spend

[radiant tartan]

You got her right...?

[narrow pendant]

Shu, chong, dusk, ling

[radiant tartan]

I bought throns skin since his base e2 art is ass

I waster 6 pulls worth of orundum but worth it

[tall sierra]

The only sui i dun have is dusk and nian... didnt have enough for nian, didnt go all out on dusk

[radiant tartan]

Oh well 3 of the shu siblings is mid and u got the 2 good ones nice

[sly drift]

Thorns skin is ass too. I hate how he brought bags on s3

[radiant tartan]

I found it funni

I spent like

1200 sanity

To e2 shu today

Mightve costed some extra irl sanity

[tall sierra]

I wish i can refund thorn skin

:v

For his other skin :3

[radiant tartan]

I bought the mudrock coral skin

But i dont have a use for her

Since i alr have penance

And i bought her with yellow certs too

I couldve had pot 6 sexas if i didnt

[tall sierra]

I need to actively do recruit to rack up yellow cert for the tenfold tix

[radiant tartan]

I have 60 ish yellow certs rn

So 10 extra pulls from there

Hmm i have like 110 pulls if i use every stuff i have to maximize pulls

And i gotta do the hard parts of the 9 10 11 12th chapters too with event ex stages

So i am safe

[sly drift]

Why it has to be opening
I'm going mlynar opening at this point

[civic star]

Chat, I may be stupid

What if Shu + Ling combo in IS-es

[sly drift]

Wtf is IS-es

[civic star]

IS<numbers>

[sly drift]

Yea. What's wrong with that. It's completely fine to bring them

[civic star]

How do yall do IS

do yall just play and keep resetting until optimal build

and then optimal build carries?

• boosted with collectibles and each IS<number's> unique mechanic-gimmicks

[narrow pendant]

I just fuck around and go

Even a failed run is still points and stat tree

[civic star]

funny play doing sanity downtime

[scarlet tendon]

hey guys

guides for hs tr 2 pls

[sly drift]

If you are new to IS. Probably just play the most effective opening ops. Then build the team based on collectibles (or take collectibles based on what ur ops). If you're not sure what to do, then just try to get ur strongest squad based on what you have on ur regular play

[civic star]

What I'm doing currently is either Mountain start or Ling start

[sly drift]

What IS

[civic star]

3 and 4

I dont have my Ling E2'd yet so there's uh. no funny aoe guard dragons

[sly drift]

Ling will do most of the job

[civic star]

Zuo any good for those two? Or too niche?

Currently farming their trust to get Zuo & Ling's module to give them a funny big module buff

It's crazy how much Zuo's module buffs him

[vague rock]

what are some good starters for IS3? I'm getting destroyed at the lowest difficulty

[iron fractal]

Texalt

[cyan gorge]

Horn, Texalter, Gavialter

[sly drift]

Sexas definitely

Hard counter the flying cringe fish

[civic star]

FLYING CRINGE FISH

[vague rock]

isn't that for the later stages? texalt is pretty hard to start with no?

[sly drift]

It may be weird but it works even on high diff lol

But of course you have to get actual lane holder once you're in floor 2

Not getting sexas e2 later on is much worse than not having laneholder in floor 1

[vague rock]

hmm ok so something like plume, Texasalt and kroos for starting

[sly drift]

Fang for vanguard

[vague rock]

I see

actually how dose typhon perform in IS3? is she as good as she is in IS4?

[sly drift]

Yea. Typhoon s3 is safe from ed1 boss debuff range.

I think typon can carry

Also typon have mini stun on s2 right? She can counter the cringe fish

[vague rock]

imm try the same starting strat I use in IS4 then.

[pallid veldt]

typhon prob better in IS3 than IS4

[sly drift]

Just tried to get to "Into eternity" stage. Khagan boss itself is already super hard. And if I don't want my squad to get debuffed to the ground. I have to get three index and get both item for ed2 and ed3.

I'm starting to realize just how god awful the whole run is from very start floor 1 to end

[sage sapphire]

does anyone know if nian's tectonic armor module stack with hoshiguma's second talent?

[vital arrow]

Yes

[sage sapphire]

sweet

thanks!

[proven garnet]

firewhistle s1 or s2

dont think i need the aoe of s2 so i ask

[cyan gorge]

S2 better anyways

[proven garnet]

ok

also how do i download swire's regional voicepack? is it in with the Mandarin?

[turbid badge]

S1 is booboo

[grand iron]

I got struggling with annihilation 3, can any help

[rocky kelp]

sure bro, send roster

[grand iron]

sure wait

[rocky kelp]

you got any others leveled at all?

[grand iron]

lvl?

umm

rightnow so far... that is all my best lvl defender, medic

about sniper...

[rocky kelp]

so its pretty def heavy so you dont have the best ops for this anni

[grand iron]

what do u think

[grand iron]

ye, ik it is really heavy def, since when around 368, I start leaking enemies

[rocky kelp]

your best chances are prob something like this

[grand iron]

TSF?

[rocky kelp]

its the ops

[grand iron]

I mean what is meaning of T, S, L?

[rocky kelp]

typhon

lappland

spot

[grand iron]

I see

[rocky kelp]

i even colored it

[grand iron]

J?

jessica

I just afraid if I still died again

do we need any retreat at around 350?

[rocky kelp]

well I mean itll prob be better for you to do the micro in the moment, its no garuntee this will work either way. I just dont see any better way to do it

if anything just make sure to place gravel to bait the drones

and have a medic on both sides

so like this, and whisperain hugging typhon

[modern copper]

I don't know how I fucked up is hs9, the sui boss

I don't know why my cuora didn't die in one hit

[flat sapphire]

U recover all ur sanity in anni if u force close the game while in the stage

The bit u used for the anni i mean

Since it would count as 0 kills

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u plan to stall it with comfy, make the boss molts first with high aspd ops like markman (not must but any hit count helps) after that u could block with ease

Boss will loop on bottom right, thats ur best chance

[modern copper]

It isn't based on dmg done???

[scarlet fulcrum]

Hit count

[cyan gorge]

Mech accord casters also shred very nicely

[modern copper]

Was it a translation thing?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah click also has drone on her

[modern copper]

How do i get my caster to stop targeting the damn flies?

[turbid badge]

Use exusiai

He melts like butter

[modern copper]

Lack of exusiai

[scarlet fulcrum]

Bait with any meele ops, just deploy on near Redbox

Just think em like magnetic shits

[modern copper]

True true

So I got to phase 2

But by that time the water was so sullied that it killed my degen an cuora

And the speed of the pumps was NOT enough

[scarlet fulcrum]

Use 2 pump to clean faster

[modern copper]

With the water sullied by the weird shits in the corner?

Naur

[scarlet fulcrum]

Tho its not really needed, just put 1 somewhere else

Saria there just to block boss poop, u can retreat her later tbh

Only degen e2

[modern copper]

Still not fast enough :(

Water still sullies

[scarlet fulcrum]

Kill the first batch 4 mutt on bottom with degen s3, retreat after

That way u will not worried about high value polluted early on

[modern copper]

I DID IT

prolly not autoable

[scarlet fulcrum]

Prob doable auto, just try

[modern copper]

No worky

It's the bug spam

Horrible

And invis too

Want me to screenrec?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Sure

[vivid rain]

For the bugs you can just put someone to bait them, even noir corne works

And you can just block the invis then wash the farmland

[turbid badge]

Use warf

Free sp

[finite trench]

is there anyone particularly useful to borrow for 5-10? ive been really stuck but i still dont wanna go the guide route.
this is my current squad

[cyan gorge]

I don't think you need to borrow anything, just place your ops smarter and cuora last to bait faust

[finite trench]

alright ill try that ty

[vital arrow]

5-10 shouks be a cakewalk with that squad

Idk why youre failing

Also use pinecone s1, not s2

[vivid rain]

use exalt to evaporate mephisto squad then retreat him so you can place him somewhere more convenient

[finite trench]

sorry i was brb, i keep feeling like im missing something really core about the game but i can never place my finger on it... i know that my squad has some pretty meta operators but no matter the stage it always takes me lots and lots of tries. it's probably just a really big skill issue idk

[vital arrow]

Are you still failing or

[finite trench]

a little bit, my gaurd on the bottom lane gets stunned and i end up leaking

[vital arrow]

Do you know how aggro works

[finite trench]

the most recent unit gets shot

[vital arrow]

Yeah as long as you know that this stage is a cakewalk

Also how does the bottom row get stunned when you have GG and degen

The one that stuns literally have 0 res

[finite trench]

i changed out pinecone for lappland and i was using her on the bottom, but i could put degen there instead

[vital arrow]

I mean just kill the one that stuns

[obsidian swift]

So how is shu's s3 best used? I'm kinda stupid and not sure when I should be proccing it, or where it'd be best placed situationally

[vivid rain]

you can use it as a normal healing skill

or if you want to set up a teleportation stall just use it to deal a damaged ally where you want the sowed tiles to be

[dapper hedge]

It's short CD, you can use it more often

[turbid badge]

Just set up teleportation skill

she heal weak ally, sow grass than donw

Distance they need to walk depends on the skill level

Sometimes u can abuse

[obsidian swift]

Alright cool, I wasn't sure if there was any like, idk. 4d chess thought process required for it lmao. I'm used to forcing my way through content

[turbid badge]

Its a really broken CC skill

I can’t even lie

[vivid rain]

it's kinda braindead mechanically wise really

[turbid badge]

M3 enemies need to walk 2 tiles

[obsidian swift]

Thank god because i blew all my currency on gettin her, including yellow certs. Didn't know if she was good, just that she was a limited of my favorite archetype

[turbid badge]

Guardians ur fav?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Blink also count btw

[turbid badge]

Me when all their s1 is copy paste

[obsidian swift]

I love me a tank, i double love me a healtank

[scarlet fulcrum]

Spot enjoyer actually based

[turbid badge]

Cardigan > spot

[obsidian swift]

🤝

[turbid badge]

Tankier > no need much healing

Anyways I love shu for her seeds

[obsidian swift]

Yeah they seem cool in concept

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just draft hung shrimple as that

[turbid badge]

hung is so bot

[vivid rain]

i love mosquito best game mechanic ever

[turbid badge]

Sp

[turbid badge]

There acc called mosquitos?

I thought they were robots

[vivid rain]

community name

[obsidian swift]

I've had saria as a squad mainstay forever, it might be time to rotate her out

[vivid rain]

sky pole is too lame

i love my liskarm

[obsidian swift]

Oh are you talking about those goofy rods that launch rockets when the water gets too dirty

[turbid badge]

Yes

[vivid rain]

the flying framerate shredders are also called sky poles

[obsidian swift]

Hate those mfs

[vivid rain]

mosquit

[turbid badge]

Warfarin -> +20 SP

[vivid rain]

defensive sp recovery be eating good

[obsidian swift]

I've been playing this game for years and have never once drawn Warfarin

Feelsbad

[scarlet fulcrum]

U are good then

[urban temple]

Who should I borrow for this stage, and is this a good team setup for it? Also, if anyone knows, where should I put the units? Ty!

[scarlet fulcrum]

Easiest one mizuki or horn

No need to watch over em

[cyan gorge]

Horn should have at least one of the far left towers in her range if you borrow her

[scarlet fulcrum]

U could bring e0 harold to sustain bar, should be fine

[tidal sedge]

Ray with caster stacks is insane

[scarlet fulcrum]

bait 370 ish bazooka (with ranged ops) then u are fine, prob fiine without it tho

[tidal sedge]

But you also want some top tier aoe like Virtuosa scratch that

Forgot she scales poorly

[narrow pendant]

Thats anni bro

[urban temple]

can do

[obsidian swift]

How do you mean?

[urban temple]

where should i put Zuo le on that anni? cant rlly figure out where to place him

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just use him to solo top

Wallhack too

But less pressure sometimes, just s2 then

Sp tower and talent truly L

[vivid rain]

just dont let the enemy take the gelato or enter their range and you'll be fine

[tawdry path]

Lappy on bottom middle towers, laneholder like thorns above, Zuo le on the top lane middle tower, you can put a caster behind Zuo le and typhon behind that
Put a defender Infront of lappy and you can put a wandering medic to hit most of your units, you can put a horn behind lappy

[vivid rain]

~~or if you do you can use zuo le as cannon shell bait

[urban temple]

i dont have any wandering medics built and my best caster is an e1 lvl 40 click lolol

[scarlet fulcrum]

E0 wandering enough lol

U have lapp so

Less pressure

E0 lv1

[urban temple]

oh e0 lvl1 wandering medic is enough?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah i used e0 lv1 chestnut on alt

[urban temple]

oh nice, would e0 lvl1 whiserpain work better? i have her

[scarlet fulcrum]

Whisp is therapist

Harold is wandering

[urban temple]

ohh

[scarlet fulcrum]

U prob have harold there

[urban temple]

ye

[scarlet fulcrum]

Tho in my honest opinion ur ops already stacked enough, no need wandering

[undone sundial]

does this team work for general stages?