strategy

[wide sail]

ela dph is 1.7x when under mine effect right

[tired relic]

ela and w alt should be my priority then

any other op?

[narrow pendant]

Yea since her crit chance is 100% against enemies with mine effect

And the crit is like 170% yea

[limpid siren]

no i mean if you're trying to argue 2k dps is good relative to a marksman, it's not
they're still one of the highest dps archetypes in the game
you need to come at it from a different angle

[narrow pendant]

Yea but thats the funny thing

She isnt a marksmen

[limpid siren]

duh?

[narrow pendant]

So for a not markmen to have a markmen dps is funny

[limpid siren]

ela leans harder into damage per hit than damage per second

[narrow pendant]

Ranged no less

[limpid siren]

she doesn't have marksman dps though

[tired relic]

how much is avg marksman dps?

[narrow pendant]

She doesnt have dmg per hit either

[tired relic]

is it really high?

[limpid siren]

insider (a dph leaning marksman) hits 2.5k skill dps

greythroat clears 3k

exusiai gets much, much higher

so the real angle is talking about ela's dph making her dps more consistent as def rises

which is something that marksman do struggle with

it's not enough to just say "2k dps wowee" because that's actually pretty low relative to the good marksmen

[narrow pendant]

But that means little when exu is dying cuz the enemies at this points just habe too much def

[limpid siren]

right, so it's not that ela has 2k dps, it's that her dph is much higher

[limpid siren]

.

cause if you just say dps then ela is actually losing that race

[narrow pendant]

Ahh too much thinking, its 6am i dont wanna

[foggy grove]

there is not much to think
you said it yourself

[limpid siren]

tl;dr ela's damage is better measured by dph than dps

[wide sail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1042999781187911770/1243237253875241120/temp.png?ex=6650be6b&is=664f6ceb&hm=8ba8e2a59e7eb98e1bf62b702b8a854014816b9988ff4268ed9284cc58671528&

is ela actually 6k dps on mine effect

[unkempt lintel]

just accept and trust chat wholeheartedly frfr

[foggy grove]

this part

[spark sinew]

so does ela win in dps race

or is the chart broken

[crisp bolt]

Well one thing to not is Ela mine only lasts for 7 seconds and her s3 is 34 sp

this isn't a cope on Exu or anything, just a note on the comparison

She can store 4 mines however

just misread the pot and realized the pot only increased the amount of mines that can be deployed

[spark sinew]

no?

it increases the starting count

it's a strong pot

[turbid badge]

yes

[strange fable]

3 -> 4 starting mine iirc

[crisp bolt]

ah that's how it is EN moment

for some reason I was thinking dorothy pot was different as well

the pot just gives you max mines on deployment

also I didn't realize exu hits minimum damage so early in def

[spark sinew]

no one uses her for damage buffless so that could be why

even some afk shit just slaps skalter always

[crisp bolt]

either that or the afk is against 300 def enemies

by the way, what's Ela's atk interval when activating s3?

[vivid rain]

0,5 seconds

[elfin lodge]

Hello!! i just started playing arknights and im still level 7! im wondering if anyone could help me make a team for early game (im stuck 2-10 haha)

[worldly stirrup]

Promote your ops

[merry narwhal]

snipers: blue poison, kroos
casters: amiya/steward/click for single target, Lava/12f for AoE. you rarely need 2, so pick accordingly
guards: Silverash, Lappland, Cutter
defenders: Cuora/Bubble, Saria
specialists: Yato2
supporters: none
medics: Myrrh, Perfumer
Vanguards: Scavenger and Beanstalk should do fine. Sometimes you may need a Charger like Vigna/Plume for really fast maps.
@elfin lodge

[elfin lodge]

do i just level up everyone?? or just the 6 star ones?

[elfin lodge]

thank you!!

[merry narwhal]

try to e1 your units first and get them to like e1 level 50-60

then you can try e2ing Silverash because he'll be useful for waves of tough enemies

[elfin lodge]

alrighty thank you!

[merry narwhal]

e2 is very expensive early on and if you want to use support units to borrow, you may want to E2 Cutter first instead. Lower rarities are easier to level up and promote

np have fun

[elfin lodge]

oki oki thank you again

[glass monolith]

4* rarity don't need additional AP stage farm for second promotion. And you need e2 operator in squad to have access to e2 friend supports

[pearl sentinel]

Who should I bring for is2? I don't have lumen so who is the next best op to counter nervous impairment?

[vital arrow]

Just any medic works

You play around the impairment isntead of bring a medic for it

[pearl sentinel]

Should I be blocking Lucian at all?

[vital arrow]

Depends

Usually you just bring pozy

And just shoot him in the face

[narrow pendant]

You just started playing? More like you returned right

[pearl sentinel]

I've been borrowing a decked out exu but I'm not sure if it's super effective or not. The stuns that Lucian does just kills my entire team

Even when I tried blocking him at the initial left lane

[vital arrow]

Exu is dead slot in IS

How decked out is this decked out exu

[terse sierra]

try to e1 units first the current event stage is a good idea to farm event currency for lmd and exp

[spark sinew]

borrowing exu is pretty troll

some shitty p1 pozy would do better vs all 4 endings in IS2

exu can work but at this point you're just investing into the worse option

[flat plaza]

Any tips for wb ex 8?

and cm too preferably

[glass monolith]

Kill boss because you get screwed by enemy spam

[flat plaza]

so I just bring all my boss killer

[glass monolith]

CM is do same shit but faster because your low ground units won't hold as much. -1 block condition sorta remove danger of all your ranged units dying to same dog

Remember that phase 2 is flying

[spark sinew]

you don't even necessarily need to kill the boss fast

[glass monolith]

Gacha tiles spamming 50 shield guys tell me otherwise

[spark sinew]

nowadays (but honestly it didn't change much since the first run) we have the ops to just kill everything

[thin gale]

Can someone help with ifrit E2 S2 pls?

[spark sinew]

i mean ling chalter duo this shit, the dps req is not even high

i've seen the acc of a guy

he has the ops to do either strat

[glass monolith]

Just because "Someone did duo of this shit with e2 90 OP bullshit" doesn't mean everyone capable of executing it

And i seen Muffin year or so ago, so i know he need hand hold to point Surtr S3 at boss

[spark sinew]

no, but it highlights the fact that enemy spam is not threatening for developed accs

[spark sinew]

yeah, can't argue here

i'm not even "helping" muffin here though

[glass monolith]

I prefer blind, clownfiesta and preferably with least amount of 6* possible. Excluding parts when i give up and Chalter that shit every now and then

[spark sinew]

cause i know he will ignore all my advice anyway

i'm just talking in general

[spark sinew]

what do you need her for, anni?

[thin gale]

Yes

[spark sinew]

i have a modless one, but if you're borrowing for anni you're better off borrowing someone's typhon

[thin gale]

I have her.

But

1 enemy...

Hehe

[spark sinew]

wouldn't Lin be better borrow here

idr ifrit doing much

[thin gale]

Ok, I'll try

[spark sinew]

btw you can force close the app if you leak

so anni won't eat any of your sanity

[spark sinew]

wait, scratch that

i thought it was different anni, sorry

[thin gale]

Oh

[spark sinew]

if you're content with trying modless ifrit i can put her up, Hauckindu#0376

summer chen is also a strong borrow here

[thin gale]

Hmm, I have an idea, ty

[dapper hedge]

That's the r6s mobs isn't it, reapers are good there

[distant bough]

Wish I knew that before thanks

[spark sinew]

you never asked!

[distant bough]

Nah like genuine thanks but I just never thought about that

I just coped

Gonna be pretty useful since I have a ton of annis to catch up on I think

[tidal sedge]

Were do I use her , and what does it mean she can shift enemys ?

[spark sinew]

damn they didn't add me

[distant bough]

She's a reverse Shaw, so she pulls enemies toward her

[tidal sedge]

And then she die

👍 ...

[distant bough]

Nah she pulls them into holes if you're not trolling

S3 pulls enemies into a tornado 2 tiles in front of her

[tidal sedge]

I see I see

[spark sinew]

asking it after e2ing her is interesting

you either pull enemies into holes, use her s3 to bind, or use her as makeshift laneholder and don't rely on her pulling

[glass monolith]

As cause for AH to be overpowered: Module stage 2 her
As puller: Skill depending on condition. S3 does arts damage but if she pull big amount of enemies forward you might die. S1 is unique cuz she only one (I think) who store charges on it. S2 is big duration range increase and target 2.

[distant bough]

Which slows and deals damage to all enemies inside

It's decent and fun to use, but Gladiia is meh at best honestly

[tidal sedge]

Can she pull all heavy anemys ?

[spark sinew]

the cycle is actually pretty ok

[glass monolith]

Heaviness reduce effectiveness of pull/push, math almost exact in both direction

[distant bough]

Depends on mastery, probably can't pull anything above 3 or 4 unless you have Angie

[spark sinew]

especially in the context of AH, with that broken ass battery

she basically always has it ready

[tidal sedge]

Should I max her out ?

[spark sinew]

the main problem is finding the damage to nuke enemies in those 8 seconds

[dapper hedge]

She's actually pretty tanky lol.

[spark sinew]

which pure AH struggle to

[distant bough]

Maybe one day I should try AH, have they released any new AH operator since Spalter ?

[dapper hedge]

Ye ulpianus on cn

[glass monolith]

I think she is like first to die if you assemble entire AH exodia

[spark sinew]

you use ulpian gladiia spalter only if not trolling

[tidal sedge]

You guys all have Gladiia right ?

[glass monolith]

She is free duh

[distant bough]

Skalter where 🥹

[spark sinew]

and consider skadi if limited in ops

[tidal sedge]

🥲 ..

[spark sinew]

skalter is

1. not AH
2. sucks ass

[distant bough]

2 is in my subjective opinion objectively wrong

[spark sinew]

her buff also sucks for AH even more due to their insane stats

[distant bough]

Sincerely, get gud

[spark sinew]

and all of them really not scaling with inspiration

i would say you need to get gud, if you think peak skalter does anything at all!

[tidal sedge]

Yeah she can do it as long as he don't run

[narrow pendant]

Skalter does nothing for AH

[distant bough]

I use her with Ling sometimes 🥲

[narrow pendant]

Surely her like, 200atk buff is useful when specter gives like 23%

[spark sinew]

skalter with ling is pretty broken

although i would wager like 5 people in total used skalter1+ling3

and all of those people hold the Ling clear records on billi

[tidal sedge]

Guys i hace 2 6☆ that idk if to invest in .. can u say smg ?

[distant bough]

I had that realization when I got an IS run with Ling and Skalter

[spark sinew]

did you buy that acc

[distant bough]

Until I just died 'cause I'm stupid

[sullen rover]

nope he just pulled ash rerun

[narrow pendant]

Sounds like it so far

[sullen rover]

im actually gonna cry if this game does not give an e2 carnelian

[cedar hound]

Yea ling gladiia e2 and dont know if they good or not

Pretty much

[narrow pendant]

Its like that "af" weirdo in #arknights has every limited, 4k sanity but doesnt know who or what they are and at ch0

[glass monolith]

Ling is OP AF when stage has no way to counter her stupid dragons which is often

[flat plaza]

can I put mountain on wb ex 9 top lane

and he kill all mobs

[foggy grove]

there is no ex 9

...

[flat plaza]

8

[buoyant phoenix]

mountain still gets 2 block even on cm right

[flat plaza]

1

[cyan gorge]

No

[buoyant phoenix]

oh right

yeah cool

he prolly can't hold top lane in cm then

[flat plaza]

gavialter?

do I need a healer for her

[cyan gorge]

Probably

[high crest]

Did like his block number is 0 now when his skill is not on or smth?

[flat plaza]

yes 0 blocks

[foggy grove]

yes?

[high crest]

Damn

[buoyant phoenix]

iirc some -1 block condition maps don't allow it to go below 1 so mountain would still have 2 there

this stage is not one of them

i just forgor

[spark sinew]

actual strat is using s3

!

just push everyone

[buoyant phoenix]

:exploding_head

[spark sinew]

never die because 0 block!

[signal sequoia]

Weedy and Shaw 🔥

[buoyant phoenix]

simply use ethan and manticore

[foggy grove]

idr such map but i do remember some that doesn't affect tactician pet

like it'll still have 1 block even with -1 block

[flat plaza]

wait so mountain is useless in cm

what about thorns?

[spark sinew]

where do i claim the badge of being blocked by muffin

btw anyone react to him with "?" for me

[high crest]

You can try him but id say he's not that good for the stage cause of heavy shield shits

[flat plaza]

i don't any other lane holders

[tired relic]

wow 3 star ops are really broken

[narrow pendant]

Yes sir

[tired relic]

they are slept on

[foggy grove]

you have ifrit and gg no?

[cyan gorge]

I used Executor + Jessicat

[flat plaza]

yeah but don't i need 3 blocks

[tired relic]

i regret wasting all my resources on 6 stars when 3 stars can do the jb just fine

[high crest]

Ifrit and gg for damage,and a defender?

[spark sinew]

meant the mountain message but good enough

[foggy grove]

what

[spark sinew]

chalter is really good for the stage if you need to pick one to dps the mobs

[flat plaza]

do i need 2 defenders?

[tired relic]

yes

[high crest]

Who your other laneholder?

[flat plaza]

the only 3 block laneholder i have is saria gavialter and monster

(6*)

[tired relic]

also gg the best caster?

[flat plaza]

no

[spark sinew]

the mobs also seem to trickle slowly enough so that she can just use the skill again

[narrow pendant]

One of the better ones

All are irrelevant cuz of logos anyway

[tired relic]

whos on top there?

logos

ic

[spark sinew]

geenral content or

[tired relic]

general

idk i never felt the need to get another caster cuz gg carries

[spark sinew]

idk about general content then
the top casters pre logos are ceobe=mosti> eyja>= gg pass probably?

[narrow pendant]

if def gets too high, why use a caster? Just do more phys dmg 5head

[flat plaza]

do you count flametail

she has 3 blocks wiht s3

[spark sinew]

reread your message oh nvm, it's the satire one

[tired relic]

ic

[high crest]

Flame tail is just a vanguard no?

[cyan gorge]

Pass is the only caster I need

[dapper hedge]

This is for wb8 cm right

[flat plaza]

yeah

[dapper hedge]

She's still gonna just have 2 blocks there with s3

[spark sinew]

caster talk is in general

[flat plaza]

yeah I meant need minimum 3 blocks before the cm for lanehold

[spark sinew]

gg is certainly the easiest to use but i feel like her damage is quite low without a bard

[tired relic]

pass?

[spark sinew]

i'm always curious why pass is so overhated

[narrow pendant]

Godsenger

[spark sinew]

but also in the case of above just read their name

[narrow pendant]

Something something release ptsd and chain caster

Guess people just dont like it

I guess

[foggy grove]

bUt hE neeDs mOdule 3

[spark sinew]

meanwhile zuo:

[cyan gorge]

Just have mod 6

[dapper hedge]

I generally have bad impression for ops with expensive dp w

[spark sinew]

i mean sure they're at different weight classes

[high crest]

Mudrock and penance good even if they're expensive

[tired relic]

which stages are the hardest- ex or story CM or cc or anni or any other?

[narrow pendant]

I prefarmed e2 lvl 60 s2+s3m3 and mod3 zuo
If i dont get him with my pulls im crying

[tired relic]

who do i raise i have both mudrock e1 max and penance e0max 🤣

[narrow pendant]

Well, high cc risks are gonna be the hardest

Then like, i forgot which it was, some of the H stages

In ch11 and 9? Was it

[high crest]

And d15 is

[narrow pendant]

But thats also relics and talent tree and stuff

[tired relic]

degen rerun when?

[spark sinew]

year ish

[narrow pendant]

Year

[tired relic]

F

mlynar?

[dapper hedge]

Never

[spark sinew]

never

[narrow pendant]

Cn got a JO with ascalon degen and 2 others already

[tired relic]

wtf

is mlynar limited????

[narrow pendant]

No

[dapper hedge]

No

Vignette event

[tired relic]

then?

[narrow pendant]

Hes a vignette event

[dapper hedge]

So no rerun banner

[spark sinew]

mlynar is like Ray

[high crest]

A mini event ops and mini events don't rerun

[spark sinew]

they don't get event reruns and don't get banners for it

[narrow pendant]

He wont habe a rate up banner, but you can get him from random offrates

[tired relic]

this shi so ass

omg

[narrow pendant]

or buying him for 30bucks

[tired relic]

i thought i could get him

[narrow pendant]

U can

[dapper hedge]

Just gamba in Jo banners

There's like 2-3 banner with him or smt

[tired relic]

oh ic

thats a relief

i missed texas alt, degen, arturia, mlynar, ines and what not

i got poz tho

and gav alter

[high crest]

The limited banners and Collab upcoming had characters that are strong as hell

[tired relic]

ela and w alt

[high crest]

And shu/zuole

[tired relic]

shu

i am skipping her

just to save for w and elaa

[spark sinew]

go save 100 pulls for ela, and however much for wisadel

you can consider pulling until first 6* in shu though

maybe strongly consider, depending

[narrow pendant]

Heresy, my beloved rice dragon

2nd best sibling after dusk, smh

[ivory leaf]

Fartooth or ray?

[spark sinew]

no way you think dusk if 1st

when she's dead last

[foggy grove]

ray

[ivory leaf]

Owkeh

[foggy grove]

fart stinks to high heaven

[narrow pendant]

Nuh-uh

[high crest]

Is neither an option if pulling?

[narrow pendant]

You prolly think ling is the best sibling or sum

[cyan gorge]

I think Dusk is best design wise

[narrow pendant]

Thats my man

[cyan gorge]

🤝

[tired relic]

mhm

[spark sinew]

she's absolutely worst character wise

no redeeming qualities

[cyan gorge]

I keep forgetting to get her module tho

[spark sinew]

can't really comment on design cause i'm not familiar with china mythology enough

they all look like a regular anime chars to me

with different color hands

[narrow pendant]

As in, ingame strengh?

[spark sinew]

lore ish

voice lines

etc

[cyan gorge]

I like her character

[spark sinew]

this thingy

[tired relic]

rosmontis

[narrow pendant]

Oh well, shes still the best
Better than drunkard ling

Dusk>shu>nian

Chong and ling can go down a ditch

[spark sinew]

"best" is crazy when you have shu and chongyue at least

[glass monolith]

Dusk had dragons before Ling copy pasted

[soft crystal]

Ling has big sis drunk energy

But Chongus is best

Big bro will protect me

[ivory leaf]

I forgot chongyue exist

[tired relic]

How does this keeps happening

In wb-ex-6 when I'm doing normal mode I place my courier and gg for the first wave of dogs and it works fine

But somehow in CM

GG isn't able to kill the dog and one gets past courier

How is this possible (considering those dogs aren't buffed or my caster isn't nerfed)

[foggy grove]

but cm does does buff their stats

cm has hidden multiplier to enemies

[turbid badge]

no need

[glass monolith]

CM has hidden buff. For old events in was on average +10% to HP/ATK/DEF. For latest event (After 3 years of AK) it is on average +20%. That buff is set manually for each stage so it could be different based on stage. For example sometimes it can give +25% to HP, or sometimes it has no increase to ATK. Also one stage in texas alter event had hidden attack speed buff in CM in single stage which was like only time i recall that happening

[turbid badge]

1 sp every 4 seconds

[tired relic]

This shi so ass

[somber falcon]

why are you using courier when you have mountain

[cinder walrus]

which module is good?

i really need to do cause mission

[spark sinew]

?

what module

[acoustic slate]

I’m guessing they want to clear the campaign missions

[spark sinew]

yeah but like

maybe give us a list of ops you have dude

or something

[tired relic]

dp

[spark sinew]

@turbid badge you didn't add me, so

missed your chance!
but i can add you if you send it now

[turbid badge]

wtf blogging in #strategy !!

[spark sinew]

didn't you ask for a specific map help/borrow in #help

is that not why you pinged me there

[turbid badge]

oh i forgot to turn off the reply ping

[cinder walrus]

best stage to farm on this event?

[rocky summit]

the one with the material you want the most

event store currency is the same for all stages, 1 for each 1 sanity spent

[cinder walrus]

but do spend all sanity on stage cause you get point right

[narrow pendant]

Right

[dusk schooner]

anyone help on 9-9?

[cinder walrus]

i don't know how to use NTR knight

can anyone teach me

is she boss killer

[narrow pendant]

You either use s2 or s3 really

With s2, you just drop her on shit and let her smack away

[cinder walrus]

i also have E2 gravel so i think i can deploy gravel then deploy her

i only E1 lvl 30 her

i'm poor rn

[narrow pendant]

With s3 she does pretty nice against the more elite enemies, cuz together with her sun she blocks 4 and true dmg

[narrow pendant]

Gravel doesnt do any dmg while ntr does

Gravel is just stalling/ baiting atks

[cinder walrus]

if kalzimer deploy before ntr, ntr will only have 60 sec

[narrow pendant]

You dont really care about that

[cinder walrus]

i can't beliee

i legit only have 100 blue exp and 1000 lmd

i'm legit poor

[narrow pendant]

Then idk, work on it

IS has good first time lmd gains

Get your base up and running

[cinder walrus]

you mean LS?

[narrow pendant]

No?

[cinder walrus]

what is IS

[narrow pendant]

Intergrated strategies

A rogue like gamemode

[cinder walrus]

never heard of it

i only heard anihilation and cc

[narrow pendant]

Has like, idk, 600k lmd in easy first clears of monthly squads

[narrow pendant]

Its fun

Should unlock with 3-8

[cinder walrus]

it look like event

i will play abit then

wtf is this

look like rougelike

[narrow pendant]

Didnt i just say that

[cinder walrus]

is amiya as guard need to roll?

why i didn't own amisword already

[narrow pendant]

Sorry what

Are you basicaly asking how to get guardmiya?

[cinder walrus]

Yeah

[narrow pendant]

Complete JT8-1

First of the 3 final stages of ch8

[dusk schooner]

i think wb-7 is way too hard

[narrow pendant]

Degen solo'd that for me

almost, used a hesler for her but still

Just have a ranged unit at the blocks killing off the dogs and stuff, and other squad killing the shield guys and cannon carts that come in the middle

Pretty simole

[glass monolith]

JT8-1 is cutscene of Talulah inviting civilians to BBQ party, JT8-2 is first boss and Guardmiya

[narrow pendant]

Meh

Who is supposed to rmb that shit anyway

[glass monolith]

Someone who spend 78 tries on JT8-3

Never again i do double bait strategy

[narrow pendant]

I have not touched jt8-3

And wont until logos is out

Nuh-uh

[tidal sedge]

Guys

Witch story gives me oppe ?

So i open it

[glass monolith]

Well all storeis with Record Restore if it had one, you literally click on that and see

[tidal sedge]

I think I'm to dumb to understand what u said

😂 ..

[glass monolith]

My job here is done

[tidal sedge]

But some i didn't open don't have that

[glass monolith]

Oh for f sake one need to open them to see record restore?

[narrow pendant]

Cuz they dont show

Yes

[tidal sedge]

So they don't have ?

Shops

[narrow pendant]

But to help you, everyrhing till invitation has record restore

After invitation they dont

Simple

[tidal sedge]

I need a translator here

😂 ..

[narrow pendant]

Just read

Invitation to wine

Has the latest restore

After it, theres nome, and before it, there is

Shrimple as that

[glass monolith]

Need THIS thing to gain event free operator. Invitation to Wine just got that thing. Everything down don't

[tidal sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-gif-25596223

[narrow pendant]

No random gifs

[mighty pagoda]

waiting for logos

[tidal sedge]

[mighty pagoda]

also

[tidal sedge]

She weak

[glass monolith]

Do i miss some crutial information outside part that you guys gonna get trolled with "e2 amiya needed" TWICE?

[glass monolith]

Game devs: "We don't care"

[mighty pagoda]

i will probably have to do it anyway when ch14

[narrow pendant]

I used the instant e2 5* thing

That i got for free somehow

So e2 amiya on like ch1, shit was funny

[mighty pagoda]

free e2 5*

[narrow pendant]

Yea, idk where it was from, i just had it

[tired relic]

calm down lol

[tired relic]

newspaper girl

[pallid veldt]

who is most replaceable for tequila

kroos?

[merry narwhal]

you can replace both quaso and texas with ponci if you have her

[pallid veldt]

nah i dont

[merry narwhal]

also if you have enough dp you can retreat Texas

[pallid veldt]

yeah but i would have to deploy silence later on anyways so

i need to take away one op from left side

[merry narwhal]

hibis2 can replace breeze and bluepoison too

greyy2 is a good choice, so you might not need as many dps units

ranged is definitely king on this map

I can also see Scene working to solo the left side albeit at a higher dp cost

[cinder walrus]

I hate you

I will never touch it again

[limpid siren]

You have basically four st units in both right, can consolidate any combination of them into splash/mt ranged units

Preferably arts

You have leizi right?

Put her in amiya’s spot

Leonhardt is also very strong on this map, but i doubt you have him raised

But yea you’re wasting loads of slots on st dps

[pallid veldt]

leizi was a former borrow

💀

bro im so poor

[limpid siren]

It be like that when you need a unit for every job tbh

Kroos is the worst unit deployed since st and phys

All the problem enemies in bot right stage have a lot of def

[pallid veldt]

yeah i ended up taking her out

she was mainly just so the roadblocks didnt get too hurt from dogs

i think i gotta find a way to use firewatch tbh for casters

[limpid siren]

Firewatch S2 is okay

Not ideal but at least it has splash and high enough dmg to puncture def

Tl;dr is just more splash/mt

[pallid veldt]

i could also try ashlock

but like not in bottom

like in mid facing right

[limpid siren]

No point

She only kills dogs

[pallid veldt]

just for casters

💀

[limpid siren]

Which already shouldn’t be a problem

Slot silence somewhere to heal lightningbearer

And your invis dude blocker

Breeze is only doing one job but silence can probably do two

[pallid veldt]

i think i tried that but it fails at like 375ish

[limpid siren]

Don’t really have great advice for the invis guys cause i used mr nothing but i doubt you have a big enough nothing for that

What dies

[pallid veldt]

croissant

[limpid siren]

Put her on croissant then

[pallid veldt]

and then just use drone for right side?

[limpid siren]

Healing pressure for right side shouldn’t be too much yea

Let the rock below greyy die so you can slot someone there

Might need a bit more aoe to stay safe but it’s a good tile

This map always loops back to abusing splash in bot right

Splash and arts

this clears, but definitely more levels than you have sry

leon might honestly be more important than greyy, but they're both beasts on this map

[glass monolith]

Chain\Splash casters when enemy piled up into clown car: It is casting time

[distant bough]

That setup is crazy

here I was trying to kill them all in the center box

💀

[glass monolith]

If it works any method do, but like - Enemy pile up and camp on red box

[distant bough]

I just stacked damage

I had like Gavialter Blaze Fiametta Typhon all stacked and I just prayed it would work

[glass monolith]

And I uh.... Sample text

[distant bough]

It honestly felt pretty nice using Fiametta for once tho

[limpid siren]

Whatever works tbh

[vocal leaf]

i tried to improve my previous farming team replacing exia and schwarz for aak and suzu i found out that i can bind top lane boss just before it gets to the next tile to apply the winter void and still attack with 4 of the mumu clones since it is split between the two tiles

there’s a bit of rng with aak tho because in the “bad” run boss can get in irene’s tile range applying the winter void in her tile, but even if that happens they don’t leak any mob

[finite trench]

is there any way to deal with these things or do i just need to tank it and out heal it? also i know more of them pop up, does it cover every lane by the end?

[distant bough]

Have to tank it, make sure your tankiest units are taking the damage, and that everyone is in the range of a healer, Saria S2 is pretty good at dealing with it too

[finite trench]

my team with two reaper gaurds
alr ill have to think of somn else, thanks

[distant bough]

Am I stupid or can't reapers just tank it ? Don't they have natural regen

[finite trench]

err maybe exalter at e2? but humus dont at least. my exalter is only E160 rn

i think he's called exalter that might be someone else but its executor alter

[somber falcon]

reapers need enemies to regen

[distant bough]

Mixing it up with hellagur then mb

[somber falcon]

also change fart's direction, there are drones on top lane as well

[finite trench]

oh true woops

[distant bough]

Isn't she looking right ?

[finite trench]

nah you can see the little circle under them

[distant bough]

'cause if she is she can hit them

[distant bough]

oh yeah true I always forget that's a thing

I just realized you dropped her an hour ago

[finite trench]

i could probably retreat them and get them facing right in time, im sure

[distant bough]

Might as well tell you that from what I've heard

She's ass

[finite trench]

oof, i just like the big range and s2 seemed neat

[distant bough]

Idk if people are just memeing her too hard or if she's truly that bad but she gets memed to death

[distant bough]

I've played with her for a bit and she's fun

But her damage seemed to be piss low

Infinite range is funny

[finite trench]

either way they were kinda free, but yeah

[distant bough]

But just use Schwarz or Ifrit if you wanna have a range like that

[finite trench]

this is why i want goldenglow 💀

does her S3 give her crazy range???

[distant bough]

Yeah but just know that she's getting hard powercrept in 6 months or so

[mighty pagoda]

not crazy, just 4 tiles

[distant bough]

5 tiles in front I think

[distant bough]

Which is more than enough

[distant bough]

Mastery maybe ? Or am I coping

[mighty pagoda]

it is with mastery

[finite trench]

yeah but thats six months from now and i gotta clear the story still, i got plenty of time to get my gold certs back ahaha 🗿

[distant bough]

Yeah ok, I guess I just counted her own tile as part of her range

[distant bough]

Do whatever you know, if you like her go for it

[mighty pagoda]

global range is not that much good

[foggy grove]

meh global range is overrated

[distant bough]

Also Logos getting released doesn't mean you can't just bring 2 casters

[distant bough]

It's just funny

I use GG sometimes and I honestly think she's not even that good, I just find her cute and funny

[finite trench]

yeah im not super concerned with end game if im being real i just like the characters and i used to borrow goldenglow a lot

once i beat the story i'll worry about IS and all the other wacky end game stuff i'll have to do eventually

[distant bough]

Not really endgame if we wanna be purists

[mighty pagoda]

i dont think people use gg in is

[distant bough]

Gachas are kinda fucked like that

Clearing the first like 8 chapters is basically the early game

Chapter 9 and up are basically the low mid-game

[finite trench]

no i mean like ill pull for people i like and that i find useful until the game starts to demand me to pull for meta units, thought most of my fav's are actually meta people sometimes

[distant bough]

IS, CC and the rest is the real mid-game

And high-end stuff is like high risk CC, high difficulty IS

[mighty pagoda]

IS is good source of materials early game tho, if you can beat it

[finite trench]

yeah... about that...
idk i havent tried with my units more built but last time i died like 3 stages in

[distant bough]

They do be like that

[mighty pagoda]

you just need to borrow some good carry

[distant bough]

And then you start liking Archetto or Rosa and you're just f-ed

(clearly not me idk what you're talking about)

[mighty pagoda]

[finite trench]

i mean i didn't even get my starter banner 6* cause my account is old so i have angelina

[distant bough]

My dude I am playing another game

On a whole new level of stupidity

[mighty pagoda]

no module

[finite trench]

pretty!

[distant bough]

Wasn't out back then

[mighty pagoda]

do it now

[distant bough]

I'm poor 💀

Got other priorities

[mighty pagoda]

im also poor

[distant bough]

Like Typhon

I'm crying dude

[mighty pagoda]

no trust

[distant bough]

She hates me

[finite trench]

wait you need trust to e2 people

[distant bough]

Nah it's the module

[mighty pagoda]

its module not e2

[finite trench]

oh ok i got scared lol

[distant bough]

You prob don't have it unlocked yet

Need E2 I think

[finite trench]

i havent touched module's yet cause my only E2 is humus

[mighty pagoda]

100 trust is not so hard so

[finite trench]

and i dont think i need it 💀

[distant bough]

Basically a thing they did to make old operators relevant again by buffing their talents or traits

[mighty pagoda]

or new op ops even more op

[distant bough]

Most are kinda ass tho

[finite trench]

huh, yeah people were telling me to stock up on the module stuff so i have quite a bit

but ive been tirelessly trying to get to 11-3 cause optimatlly i should e2 degen next

[distant bough]

I think I'm cooked tbh

[mighty pagoda]

i need like 40 data blocks, its painful

[finite trench]

how many more must I go
I cant take it anymore, there are too many stages per chapter

[mighty pagoda]

13 is last, not so many left

[distant bough]

I feel you been doing chapter 11 and 12 and it's neverending

Btw since I'm here, tips for the chapter 11 boss ? I skipped the stage 'cause lazy but I'm gonna have to do it one day

[finite trench]

well yeah i just need to get to 11-3 though thankfully, how many stages are actually in chap 10?

[distant bough]

18

and 19 is a story stage

[finite trench]

oh shoot i almost there this is hype

[mighty pagoda]

ch11 boss is pretty easty tbh

[distant bough]

mb 18 as well

Only 17

[finite trench]

ok cause i have been prefarming for the salt so i should probably be able to just yoink it

finally e2 degen

[distant bough]

I went yolo, saw Surtr couldn't one cycle him, couldn't bother

I might come back with some stupid Aak strat or smt

[mighty pagoda]

[limpid siren]

anyone got folinic s2m3

[mighty pagoda]

i still couldnt do ch12 boss with 3* tho

[finite trench]

ok tho fr how do you deal with the orbital strike cannons in chapter 10? i feel like im missing something cause i basically just let it hit my people and then quickly fill in the gaps with other units.

[distant bough]

I'm just winging it, who should I use for the last 2 slots ?

[distant bough]

Eeeeeeee

You borrow Kal'tsit

[mighty pagoda]

tank it with self sustain units/healer out of range

[finite trench]

ah.. it seems to one shot pretty much everybody but ill give it a try. i wish i had lumen

[mighty pagoda]

kal with s2 should be good i guess

i dont think you can borrow s2 tho

[distant bough]

Mine barely tanked the hit when I brought her so I just did that every time

[mighty pagoda]

it deals 3k true damage so need at least 3k hp

[distant bough]

I also used Blaze since I think she's one shot immune

[finite trench]

what??? thats wack the thorns im borrowing has 5400 and it still one shot?

[mighty pagoda]

thorns cant have 5k hp

[finite trench]

story mode buff

[mighty pagoda]

why even play that

[finite trench]

i need to clear 11-3 to be able to craft degen E2 mats

also i like the story...

[mighty pagoda]

you can read the story on normal mode too

[finite trench]

yeah but im not strong enough to clear it

[mighty pagoda]

i guess it makes sense, it will be painful to do it again tho

[foggy grove]

cannon hit for 6k true dmg on story mode

[finite trench]

yeah i know i could only make it to 9-14 on standard

[mighty pagoda]

huh, cannon buffed too

[finite trench]

thanks i see

true pain... no one i have has 6k so i suppose i must play this goofy strat

its only 3 more levels, how bad could it be?

[mighty pagoda]

i think gavial alter can tank it with s3

also specter with s2

[finite trench]

im only account level 50 so i cant borrow people to easy.
oh true i actually have specter

only issue is getting the thing to target her though

[mighty pagoda]

just make her block a bunch of dudes

or just deploy her after other 3 blocks

[finite trench]

👍

thanks all

[turbid badge]

3k*

wait its buffed?

[foggy grove]

story mode as in the easy mode

[turbid badge]

oh

[narrow pendant]

Cannon is an ally!

Its helping us kill the enemies after all!

[summer copper]

real

[tired relic]

My defender dies so early because of those red casters(event ex stages)

Freak

I have nearly and cuora

[scarlet mortar]

guardians fare a bit better against them but you generally want to interrupt their cast

their dps is crazy high

[tired relic]

How?

Bait?

Or just kill them insta

[vivid rain]

Silence them

(The debuff)

[tired relic]

Lappy

Ok

idk what enemies can be silenced

How can one make out??

[limpid siren]

in their enemy data you can see a black "X" mark next to abilities that can be disabled by silence

[remote perch]

If u check at the enemies description
You will see some abilities has these X mark

It means that those abilities can be silence

[tired relic]

Ohh

Informative

Thanks

I only know of lappy

Which other ops can silence?

[glass monolith]

Texas alter S1, Wai Fi or whatever her name was S2 on deploy, Jaye S1 after activating
Corroserum can silence too i think but let's pretend this failure of Ifrit don't exist

[spark sinew]

in this case or in general?

snowsant technically can but won't work here

[tired relic]

I need to raise Jaye

He has helped me a lot

But I always borrow him

[tired relic]

I see

[vivid rain]

Tf are you borrowing jaye for

[tired relic]

Uhhh

That event

With slugs (lava and stuff)

I missed it

He solos

[vivid rain]

Obsidian festival?

Are you fucking for real 😭

[turbid badge]

podenco

[tired relic]

Why

[vivid rain]

Jaye works there because it’s the second easiest event to exist

There are like 20 other better options

And in reality jaye is useful for 2% of the time if you play 4 stars

[tired relic]

Ah

[narrow pendant]

[vivid rain]

Obsidian festival pompeii is so weak it got solo’d by ch5 elite

[vocal leaf]

no else mention it so i will, proviso can silence too

her paradox sim it’s a s2 showcase against spiders iirc

[dapper hedge]

Corroseum

[long lotus]

How would I beat EX-8 with this squad?

[vivid rain]

Most of your team hold main lane, cuora can prob tank invisible guy lane alongside a dps, pinecone and degen handle boss phase 1, borrow typhon to kill phase 2

[worldly stirrup]

Just borrow typhoon.

[long lotus]

That's literally what I'm doing?

[distant bough]

With S3 ?

You want S3 for that stage since she will lock on the boss

[modest pewter]

any recommended operator for SSS LT 6 boss in the beach map ?

[vivid rain]

5 vanguard stacks on degenbrecher worked really well for me

[forest tangle]

any good strat for this stage?

that boss attack is no joke

[modest pewter]

he doesnt have the fear immune ?

ive never tried it but thanks might try it now

[narrow pendant]

Not for fear

But to just kill him

[tired relic]

Oh thanks for the info

[narrow pendant]

Waiifu can silence too

Oh, she was mentjoned nvm

[celest bluff]

Relax, HG won't shot Degen in the head just yet

[worldly ether]

Are there any general tips to help with clearing integrated strategies? I've just started playing again after like a 3 year hiatus so I only really have kernel ops and I'm struggling to finish the final boss for all stage 5s regardless of which IS it is

[spark sinew]

you want different borrows for each one

[mighty pagoda]

You can probably clear is3 if borrow Texas alter

[spark sinew]

pozemka texalter reedalter

[worldly ether]

I have 0/3 of those ops unfortunately 😭

[mighty pagoda]

You can borrow

[spark sinew]

hence "borrows"

during the initial "draft" you can use friend units

[worldly ether]

Can you borrow more than 1? Sorry, I don't know how it works properly yet

[tall cairn]

Hauck.

[mighty pagoda]

Technically you can but you can only borrow on start

[spark sinew]

you can, but you're limited by the hope, so you only be able to borrow one 6*

[mighty pagoda]

And only 8 hope max on start

[spark sinew]

is2, is3, is4 respectively

technically you can have 11 hope

or 13 with support squad

[mighty pagoda]

What chance for that tho

[spark sinew]

fairly low but it's not that low

[worldly ether]

I kinda get it I think?? Thanks so much !!

[spark sinew]

the pool for relics seem to be very small

[mighty pagoda]

I think is3 is easiest with old units tbh

At least it was for me

[turbid badge]

just is4 + folderal +aspd +max hp win ez gg

[long lotus]

It kinda works but I leak two enemies in the end. What do I do about them?

[vivid rain]

Ok so the problem here is that mountain have 1 block count, which is actually pretty bad considering he cant kill defenders

[long lotus]

It's mountain s2 lmao

[vivid rain]

CM condition reduce block count

Wait is this normal

[zinc flume]

yeah still only 1 block, cm gives -1 block

[long lotus]

It's... not cm

[zinc flume]

oh

[long lotus]

Oh fuck I just realised I have to do cm next

pain

[vivid rain]

Lmfao

[foggy grove]

[long lotus]

[vivid rain]

Anyway i guess you can try using a ranged dps since ranged tile units deals 30% more damage to enemies on the ground

And uh change bassline tile with mountain i guess? Since mountain lane have more enemies

[long lotus]

Yeah but I don't have enough dp for anything other than mountain to deal with the first enemy on the bottom lane

[vivid rain]

Just place shits further back closer to blue box smh

You can also use a pioneer instead of myrtle to block

[sharp swallow]

In WB-EX-8, I’m attempting the challenge variant. Are you just supposed to nuke the boss and do massive AOE damage before the enemies actually reach your frontline?

[sullen rover]

nuking the boss tends to be better cuz theres less piss tiles = less enemies

people can just stall p1 with aa sniper + healer + blocker
and then burst p2

[sharp swallow]

I really only have Pozy for nuking one at a time, but there’s not really a good spot for her to reach both

I usually have 10+ piss tiles by the time I manage to kill her

[sullen rover]

i think you can just borrow a mlynar

[spark sinew]

chalter is probably better

wait you want to nuke the boss or hold lane

[sharp swallow]

In this case, I can nuke one of them dead, but the other still walks, so I’d probably need to nuke

[polar crane]

how is your squad look like

[polar crane]

brb

[sullen rover]

wave clearing is fine just borow a chotgun or mlynar is fine

[sharp swallow]

Alr

This may be a little goofy to ask, but which is better debuff? Suzu or Shamare

[sullen rover]

for ya?

actually can poze with suzu just dps through ya with typewriter on one and poze on the other clone

[sharp swallow]

Wait Pozy and typewriter can solo?

[sullen rover]

idr the numbers on ya

but suzu is better if youre using poze to dps

[raven nebula]

@polar crane using this , wanna see the map too?

I was using someone else in orchids spot I forgot who tho . Before trying her

[sharp swallow]

Ty

[polar crane]

2-2 right?

[raven nebula]

Actually it's S2-1

I thought it was 2-2

[polar crane]

hang on let me check the map

[raven nebula]

Ok thx

It's like outside the few soldiers who slip by it's ez

[polar crane]

you did exactly like in the TR stage from before right?

slow and caster the tank

[raven nebula]

I did something similar , they just get past the others

I can try again & show what I did if u want

[polar crane]

sure do that

[raven nebula]

Ok I'll ping when I do it & thx

[raven nebula]

See for example they walked right past , n when I tried the koala doesn't work rlly neither

[polar crane]

you need to use fang first

dont deploy orchid and steward right away

[sullen rover]

suzu + poze missing a small dmg
virtuosa probably clears anyways

[polar crane]

the tank stand there for really long

[raven nebula]

I'll try that

[raven nebula]

Yea they walk right past her 😭

[polar crane]

let me try that

[sullen rover]

can u just use noir corne to open lol

[raven nebula]

Ok I think I see what the problem is... she was level 1

Cause now they ain't ignoring her

Idk how that works tho

[polar crane]

deployment order: fang, cantabile, medic, sniper, slow and caster

just imagine the bear girl is fang

she is lv1

next to her is a defender

[raven nebula]

I see, yea I cleared it somehow

After making fang level 10

I just added uh

[sullen rover]

10 level diffs

[raven nebula]

A ranger

[sullen rover]

!!!

[raven nebula]

Instead of the healer first

[tidal sedge]

What operator has most Hp ?

[copper solstice]

hoederer I think

[tidal sedge]

How much ?

[glass monolith]

For what goal you need most HP btw? And you can always "increase" hp by slapping cheese damage reductions

[tidal sedge]

Xd

Nah i just want see who can survive at least 1 hit from penance

This guy can take 2 hits before going to sleep

Xd

[glass monolith]

We don't have PvP, if we had one literally everyone would play around Penance S3 build up, we will grief each other in different ways in Co-op mode

[tidal sedge]

Xd

How this skill of hers work ?

[glass monolith]

As it says. If she has barrier she "reflect" damage based on her ATK at the moment

[tidal sedge]

Aahhh

Ok

So the faster the enemy hits her

The faster it die alone ?

[glass monolith]

well duh. Same amount of damage each hit.

[tidal sedge]

Welp

I feel bad for her enemys

[glass monolith]

If you walk forward 6 second 10 times you will advance for 1 minute

[tidal sedge]

I have a feeling ur old

Like 28

[glass monolith]

Literally my 28th Birthday

[tidal sedge]

(:

So i was right

Penance 18000 Hp shield

Crazy

No wonder she don't need a healer

[narrow patrol]

If she somehow takes hp damage you screwed up somewhere

[tidal sedge]

Even in poison she takes first shield damage

[serene umbra]

Good evening !
I need help to clear this stage : WB-9 without a support. Last year I used one and now I want to try without😅

[tidal sedge]

Just use self healing tanks

[serene umbra]

Self healing like Gummy ?

I can replace Melantha with Cardigan

[tidal sedge]

Mudrock , nearl

Sure

But u don't need heal if ur tank has enough deff

[serene umbra]

Oh okay :0

My problem is the second phase of the boss

[tidal sedge]

Yeah same 🥲 ..

[serene umbra]

I don't have Pozemka

Apparently Exusiai can be nice but I don't have enough money to up her E1...but...
@_@

[tidal sedge]

I have her e2

(:

[mighty pagoda]

at least show who you have. i dont think silver and gg is enough dps

[serene umbra]

Oh

[tidal sedge]

Silverash should be enough to deal with the second phase

I saw on yt

[serene umbra]

Oh

I tried but he was killed maybe it was the wrong place

Where can I put him ?

Hmmm

I have Mostima

Maybe up La Pluma ?

[dapper hedge]

Do you.have to use melantha / orchid?

[mighty pagoda]

boss has high res

[serene umbra]

Melantha for the boss

I saw this video : https://youtu.be/tKY-83mwK9Q?si=-9U0IwBjVbZWbq_7

[tidal sedge]

https://youtu.be/fntxVZJY75E?si=OIzb9NIpc4w4T5Nr

That blond guy

Try ask for someone to give it to u and kill boss

[serene umbra]

Yeaaah but I'll don't get auto deploy

[mighty pagoda]

why you want auto

mats have shit drop rate on it

[serene umbra]

Okay😅
It's just to see if I improve a little

[mighty pagoda]

if your problem is silver dying just bring more tanks

or e1 your shining smh

[serene umbra]

Yeah I'll up shining

I already have lumen and Ansel-
But yep

[mighty pagoda]

are sword guys one shotting your ops or whats the problem exactly

lumen and ansel are not good end game healers

lumen is only good against aliments

and ansel has too low heal

[serene umbra]

Only the boss😔

[mighty pagoda]

boss shouldnt one shot anyone

[serene umbra]

Ok ! I'll up shining it's been a while since I haven't used her

[serene umbra]

Aliments ?

[mighty pagoda]

like stun/cold/freeze

he is only good against those, other than that his heal is not that high

[serene umbra]

I see I see

Oh I have to up Kal'tsit too

But she's not really a healer well

People use her with her monster

I have Ptilopsis to up E2 even if I don't like her but well it's important so let's go

[mighty pagoda]

i mean if you dont like her just dont use her

[serene umbra]

Yeah😅

I can use another healer but who...
I mainly use Ansel, Lumen...Shining now and....

[mighty pagoda]

you dont even need that many

you will not use ansel later in the game tho

but lumen and shining is enough tbh

[serene umbra]

Okayy

Ansel is not good for the end game stages😔

[mighty pagoda]

i mean you can use him if you like him

[serene umbra]

Yes yes but some operators are better for some stages :0

[mighty pagoda]

doesnt mean you have to use optimal ones

[serene umbra]

Yes, thanks ! I'll try again this stage

[cyan gorge]

Doesn’t Lumen with skill up and mod y have one of the highest healing output in the game next to Eyjaberry?

[mighty pagoda]

and when skill down everyone dies

[ivory leaf]

Help what should I get-

[smoky beacon]

slow and defender

[ivory leaf]

Owkeh