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glass wedge
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Ok

scarlet mortar
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less impactful but also ansel ig

spark sinew
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5-7 "normal" strat is to use charger vang

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undeploy it and then deploy a pioneer or defender (humus should do fine)

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no charger raised though, so let's see

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does humus not hold top?

glass wedge
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What is a charger vanguard

glass wedge
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Well he can but

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The drones

spark sinew
glass wedge
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Those drones keep on killing both my snipers and melee ops

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Mountain alone can hold bottom yoo

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Too

spark sinew
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just put a drone dampen device and your snipers should kill them before they reach the device i think

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ok, interesting

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back in the day it was slug rush that killed you, not drones

glass wedge
scarlet mortar
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ah right you have a levelled ethan

glass wedge
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I didn't say that

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I meant uhh

scarlet mortar
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you can probs drop ethan on the right to open the top lane

glass wedge
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The drones do too much dmg to the bottom lane where the dampen device cant reach
Normally the bottom ops dont die but they get damaged a lot and they cant heal that damage back

spark sinew
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wait i just noticed

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level your base workers

glass wedge
spark sinew
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that's the reason

glass wedge
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Oh and the frost drones are tanky af so if I cant kill at least one its an instant lose

glass wedge
scarlet mortar
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idt it's ideal actually so scrap that

glass monolith
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I don't recall stage where you given dampers but no place to cover all drones MeteorNani

glass wedge
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Its the drone part where i choke

scarlet mortar
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was cooking sth with low rarity and midnight kills the frost drones easily

spark sinew
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i can't really replicate the team because mine are all e2

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where are you placing the damper actually

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how tf does bot side even die

scarlet mortar
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iirc the jammer debuffs the drones on top of silencing them

spark sinew
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cause they're deployed on the left side, not the right

scarlet mortar
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so yh you do want it out quickly

glass wedge
spark sinew
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so they shouldn't get hit at all, no

glass monolith
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map name

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or you know numbers

glass wedge
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5-7

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I deploy dampener on the too

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Top

glass monolith
glass wedge
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Ok thx

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I guess my steward and click will carry

spark sinew
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oh those drones don't even attack the damper, wow

glass monolith
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Damper disable drone attack

spark sinew
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sure didn't in CC

narrow pendant
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CC is made to fuck you over

scarlet mortar
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well this worked

spark sinew
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at least i vaguely remember that

scarlet mortar
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jammers disable drone attacks but i'm pretty sure east armory just removed them

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or that one high-rise stage

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did we actually have a jammer? idt we did

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oh right east armory

dapper hedge
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Might be range extend tag

scarlet mortar
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the drones attack from outside jammer range in that one

glass monolith
scarlet mortar
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nah they can do that normally

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jammers have a diamond range so the diagonals are shorter

spark sinew
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we had jammer yeah

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it's hard to forget that stage for me

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idk who thought it was a good one

scarlet mortar
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the bigger drones have enough range to almost always shoot the jammer if it's coming from a diagonal

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see: H5-1

scarlet mortar
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mountain replaces popukar, just add more ops for the last wave

rustic spire
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Is boss path like this?

spark sinew
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no

somber falcon
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Minus the detour on middle, he circle around and come from top

narrow pendant
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Not that deep in the middle

rustic spire
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Ok thanks

remote perch
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he breaks both roadblocks

rustic spire
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Here is he considered in between both tiles, so operator covering either would hit him? After his blink

somber falcon
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His next teleport will just set him free

wild sail
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Which one is better relic for IS4: "All friendly units have +35% DEF" or "All enemy units have -17% ATK"

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Do enemies do more arts damage than physical or...?

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Flat -17% seems better for me but idk, haven't played much IS4

narrow pendant
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The -atk% gives mkrw value

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Since the enemies have quite the bloated stats, esppecialy on higher d

remote perch
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just pick the atk down

wild sail
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Yeah that's what I thought, decided to check just to be sure

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Ty

glass wedge
# scarlet mortar mountain replaces popukar, just add more ops for the last wave

Nah its fine, mountain alone managed to clear bottom lane with assistance from Kazemaru when the butcher thing was about to kill
Click and Steward dealt with the drones
Purestream heals for the win
Humus died at the top but quickly got swapped out for blaze, also Pallas helped a lot at the top bc of her insane damage

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Are there more stages beyond 5-7 i need to worry about

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Feel kinda ashamed doing 5-7 with a guide RosHeadpat

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I mostly did other stages without one

scarlet mortar
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the rest should be fine i think

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5-7 is one of the harder red stages tbf

pure mortar
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Anyone has any idea for this TG-8 clear? Pot 6 Ling, this is the closest I can get. I have like 3 or so practice plans, so I want to make them count w/ diff deployment spots

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GraniCry where is Pard when you need them

wild sail
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Ah, I see you are a "Blue woman solves all" doktah ChenRoger

spark sinew
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do you want to solo ling it for some reason?

pure mortar
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And I'm waitin on her to solve tg-8

glass wedge
spark sinew
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cm btw

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normal one is soloed by a lot of ops, too many to count honestly

flat plaza
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i need help with tg 7

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cm

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the boar

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are too strong

spark sinew
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use a shifter

vivid rain
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Pullers on the 4 tiles

somber falcon
wild sail
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dragon facing down towards the hole on the right side and cs yeets herself off the edge

glass monolith
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Also i have M3 Rope who i build as Cliff replacement for CC12 because I DIDNT KNEW CLIFF RANGE IS DIFFERENT OKAY? HellaHands

flat plaza
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can they die

glass monolith
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Yes

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Immortal hyper speed boars would be fun, but alas

glass wedge
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How beat 5-10 BlemiCry

spark sinew
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defender where

somber falcon
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Use gravel to tank faust's 5th shot

spark sinew
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still didn't raise gravel, mfw

glass wedge
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How do i deal with turret spam and crushers

somber falcon
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Also humus kinda bad here since continuous dmg from ballista

glass wedge
glass monolith
glass wedge
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Best I can do is Sussuro

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I know this is beatable without supports

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I have all the tools

spark sinew
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humus seems to be fine here honestly

glass wedge
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I jusy dont know how to use it

glass monolith
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Nah AoE medics to target multiple targets are more fun in current state

spark sinew
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cause medics kinda suck

glass monolith
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Mountain S2 suffers DEF down so less good if he balista target

glass wedge
somber falcon
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Kaze should be able to kill crushers

spark sinew
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just position him where he doesn't get hit much or just undeploy after open

glass wedge
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I place blaze at the top but i cant think of anything to assist her

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Do i get like a steward or pinecone?

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Lemme try and take a vid of my run rq

somber falcon
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Blaze can't kill crushers? 🤨

glass wedge
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Here

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...

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I cant upload

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Am i allowed to upload a yt vid here?

spark sinew
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yes

glass wedge
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Its just my run, I cant download it directly in discord

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Alr

somber falcon
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Probably size problem KaltSip

glass wedge
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I was being a bit sloppy here and failed the gravel thing

spark sinew
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use cuora

glass wedge
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Kaze skill at the start was a misplay

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Faust is such a pain

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Mephisto's easy enough to deal with

noble pewter
somber falcon
glass wedge
somber falcon
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gravel is only to tank the special shot

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because for low lvl ops it hurts

noble pewter
glass wedge
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Hmm

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Alr lemme try again

modern copper
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Hey chat

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I don't have enough arts DPS to defeat the giants

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And I don't have enough silencers

noble pewter
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What r these giants u speak of PtiloThink

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Oh 5 10 crushers huh

noble pewter
modern copper
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Im not gonna texalt out of this

somber falcon
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other ops exists PodencoSip

sly drift
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carnelian

narrow pendant
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turia

noble pewter
spark sinew
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you absolutely can texalt out of this

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she literally shits on the stage

somber falcon
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actually
aren't those crushers silenceable? DrudgeThink

noble pewter
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Not gonna means he doesn't want to or doesn't know how to RosThink?

modern copper
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I no no wanna

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I can lvl tho

somber falcon
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even lapp should shit on them + mephisto

modern copper
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Just no t5 mats

noble pewter
# modern copper I can lvl tho

Cheap option, lv up Steward, put lapp behind lane, one person in front block, lapp will silence n charge s2, healer support blocker, something like the kyostinv low rarity strat

modern copper
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Wait what's a support blocker

noble pewter
modern copper
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And for the other lane

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Ok so the other lanes fine

glass wedge
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I got my winning run

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Hold on lemme upload it to yt

dusk schooner
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can anyone help with 9-4? the casters do too much dmg

modern copper
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Ok so I got to kill two crushers

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But I cannot stand the minimacroing required for faust

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If I don't have an frd on 100% of the match I'm cooked

weak gazelle
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quite a fun to toss around CS

noble pewter
dusk schooner
noble pewter
noble pewter
# dusk schooner i'll try

Or u can just use eckogen strat n bomb them from afar bot lane with artilleryman, they don't start moving until very later in the stage, enuf time to redeploy artilleryman to bomb left n right

dusk schooner
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but i still struggled a lot

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i was stuck on that stage for 2 days finally

modern copper
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Here's my 5-10 fail

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What did I do wrong

sly drift
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Hmm

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First.. your gravel deployment succ.

modern copper
sly drift
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2nd, you will struggle the late half of the stage using only one medic. Because arrows come from all direction

pallid veldt
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why is gravel there if you arent baiting the purple arrows lol

pallid veldt
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what

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am i seeing the right video

modern copper
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I've just been spamming frds left and right

sly drift
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Faust deal double damage every 5th shoot. Only use gravel to tank that

cosmic thicket
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u only need 1 FRD yeah

pallid veldt
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you didnt use gravel to tank a purple shot a single time in that video

cosmic thicket
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just count the shots

pallid veldt
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you use gravel once and that was after faust killed degen with purple arrow

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the issue isnt that you need more FRDs its that you arent using them

cosmic thicket
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literally that

pallid veldt
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also take myrtle off the field

cosmic thicket
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(also why are you deploying degen so late)

pallid veldt
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shes just taking up a deployment slot

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also use silence drone more

sly drift
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One thing to mention is that art damage isn't really good on this stage except for those hammer dude. iirc mephisto give res to enemies, those possessed soldiers

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Also enemy regen RedOmegaLul

glass monolith
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Wait he give res too? Fuck this guy just stab him in first 25 seconds of stage DIE

balmy whale
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Hello i am against SN-10 and i am getting absolutely fucking stomped the main issues are the invisible enemies who literally 2 shot my team and the boss getting behind my operators phase 2

smoky halo
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invisible?

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doesnt lap just stop the spread of goo

balmy whale
smoky halo
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theres no invi enemies

scarlet mortar
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reefs

smoky halo
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they only gain invi on goo

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lapp should prevent goo from spawning

glass monolith
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Only invis enemy is piece of shit invisible on goo

smoky halo
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ye

scarlet mortar
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yh just lapp them

balmy whale
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So i put her in top lane?

smoky halo
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top lane is ur issue?

scarlet mortar
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there're two lanes though so watch out on the other lane

smoky halo
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u can just use the roomba to remove goo from top

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or alternatively splitbox to blue box the goo spawner

balmy whale
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okay camo is gone but why are they doing so much damage? is that because of goop as well?

smoky halo
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so thry dont generate goo

scarlet mortar
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the bouncing roomba + additional block can kill those reefs btw

smoky halo
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the more they atk the more dmg they do

balmy whale
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i see remove camo by erasing the goop and attack them before they do

scarlet mortar
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even while they're on goo

smoky halo
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ye

balmy whale
smoky halo
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can cc them to reset their atk too ig

scarlet mortar
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the cleaning roomba's easier to use but i find the bouncing one funnier

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also solves phase 2 endspeaker for free

smoky halo
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whats the issue with phase 2 anyway

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degen doesnt 1 cycle?

balmy whale
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i'll try few strategies more i feel like i am struggling more than i should i cleared up to late chapter 12

smoky halo
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well this event requires u to play around the mechanics

balmy whale
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after that its gg

smoky halo
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if u ignore the mechanics ur just boned

scarlet mortar
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actually by phase 2 you mean actual phase 2, or do you ignore the first phase that doesn't do anything

smoky halo
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do u count the super weak start as phase 1

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or as phase 0

scarlet mortar
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phase 2 for me is the one that does nervous impairment damage

balmy whale
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yeah that one

smoky halo
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how much hp does it have left after degem s3

scarlet mortar
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did you let it eat the def buff or sth

smoky halo
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oh true might be bc of the def buff

balmy whale
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that must've been what happened that upper path is fucking annoying to deal with if i am being honest

scarlet mortar
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it dies to 2 roombas, shouldn't even take a full DB S3

smoky halo
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do you know which enemy is the def buff

scarlet mortar
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if it gets the def buff it'll have a glowing blue shield below half hp

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like the brandguiders which it copied do

balmy whale
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okay dont let it eat the buffs but how do i stop it from eating them?

scarlet mortar
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it eats the buff that's closest to it

smoky halo
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you dont

scarlet mortar
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just kill the brandguider at a different spot

smoky halo
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u just make it eat something else

balmy whale
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pick and choose i get it

smoky halo
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ye

balmy whale
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thanks for the help this shit is rough i'll be honest not even damatzi was this mechanically heavy

scarlet mortar
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ehh that's bc the DP mechanic is half the challenge

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also the spies

balmy whale
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its different type of difficulty i suppose

scarlet mortar
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damazti just comes in at the end to ruin your defenses

glass monolith
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Also last phase has life leech because fuck you every game has life leech at some point

scarlet mortar
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SN-S-5 endspeaker was a pushover though

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after the utter bs that's SN-S-4-A/B that stage looked like a joyride

glass monolith
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Pushover compared to hell of getting to S-5

modern copper
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5-10 fail, what do

scarlet mortar
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that wasn't so bad

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i was waiting for a catastrophic point of failure and it was just, you missed some skills and didn't dps enough

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idk if steward really does much there, you could've had click where he was and caper where click was

modern copper
scarlet mortar
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yh doesn't matter much

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it'll die later anw

modern copper
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Is there a way to know when faust is on their 3cd shot

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The one before the ourple

scarlet mortar
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just compare where he's standing with your vods ig

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that's his one pattern, since you don't have any form of mspd debuffs

scarlet mortar
maiden barn
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We did it patrick! We saved the city beat 4-5!

scarlet mortar
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perfumer where silence is, silence between the top three ballistae facing down should work abt the same

cinder pike
potent prism
cosmic thicket
potent prism
cosmic thicket
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wdym

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it's basically an open and shut case

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unless somehow you're ok with not being more self-sufficient in LMD production

potent prism
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I have base ops already

cosmic thicket
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proviso is like

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the single best base slave

potent prism
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i asked in strategy channel and I still get people telling me to level base ops

cosmic thicket
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she's the only 5* and up who has a short enough payback period to be worth e2ing just for base

cosmic thicket
potent prism
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I'm not spending 15$ for a base op omg

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id rather just do insider

cosmic thicket
potent prism
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@cosmic thicket ignore base entirely, who could i e2

cosmic thicket
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idk

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kaze rockrock canta

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but if ur 6* abuser they don't matter

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fucking mr nothing idk

turbid badge
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in cn there's a login for e2 5* in 6 months

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or is it mastery m3

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i can't yell

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i have raised a bunch of 5* but 6* options just reign supreme sadly in most cases :p

potent prism
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it's not a lot of money tbh but I want cool ops

turbid badge
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provisio base increase is crazy tbf

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went from 60k to 78k-80k i just try to manage daily and usually check once a day so no crazy fiametta rotations etc cuz i don't have herGGCat
my lmd is usually in a surplus so i sometimes skip lmd in shops :p

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with provisio use her with ur highest %, for me i just use eben and mr nothing

latent monolith
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He's nice to use

potent prism
turbid badge
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aoe slow

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with just auto attacksp

latent monolith
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His AAs have like 80% chance of slowing enemies

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With mod1 (which you want)

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And then you can use his skill if you want to be sure the enemy stays slow

turbid badge
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he also base slave for automation

inner sun
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i just started playing IS, but i have come to some issues when it comes to hope

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is there anyway to set up quickly and sufficiently before i get forced into a tough stage

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IS2 specifically

foggy grove
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hope management is basically saving for 6*

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draft 3* for 0 hope

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you can borrow or use your own 6* for starter

inner sun
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for how many floors should i be using 3*

foggy grove
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they are filler so it can range from start to finish depends on your draft

zealous cradle
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or you just get broken relics and never replace them cuz they’re doing 6* dps now ♿

foggy grove
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you are mostly drafting 6* dps carry so the 3* can be your filler healer/blocker or anything

inner sun
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i think it'll be pretty good

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in hindsight maybe i should've borrowed tony the tiger

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so I don't have to think about lane holding for a few floors

foggy grove
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borrow gavial instead of lol mountain

potent prism
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gavialter can lane hold better than mountain with s2

vernal lion
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gonna love beewax module

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still it's not suitable to counter arts dmg

jovial nest
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wait

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why does that paradox map look familiar

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oh wait it's a bit different from Minimalist's

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...it's a LOT different. never mind.

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but I just remember the caster harass section

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and thought it was the same

lusty basin
# inner sun IS2 specifically

IS2 is a little special because while it's easier than IS3/4, it has more squad check nodes

the 3*/6* strategy people mention is the typical approach, but make sure you have solutions for Justice, Red Mist, Bob's Beers, etc.

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Thorns is such a respected starter because he solves pretty much every emergency while being very easy to use

sterile jewel
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Can Silence alter S2 reach up to 72% sanctuary? Isn't that incredibly strong?

lusty basin
jovial nest
glass monolith
spark sinew
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what does thorns do on Justice, emergency accident or grand finale

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except dying horribly

jovial nest
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Thorns shouldn't even be taking any hits. He's just there to spawncamp almost any IS2 map

lusty basin
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Thorns doesn't work there on hard, yea

jovial nest
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even in hard mode, Thorns shouldnt be in that much danger

glass monolith
spark sinew
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ok yeah he isn't dying

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he just leaks 20

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which is you dying horribly

jovial nest
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well if you're relying only on him in hard mode, that IS a mistake

spark sinew
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accident is f1 map

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grand finale is f2

jovial nest
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we talking zero tactical squads or anything goes?

lusty basin
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Emergency Accident on normal is an issue if you get uhhh exactly medic ticket I think?

glass monolith
spark sinew
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chachek

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godspeed

glass monolith
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And it is +40% relic hard mode so i just died

jovial nest
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chachek with dog map?

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yeah godspeed there

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that tends to kill most starting setups

spark sinew
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accident is metal crab + 30 paratroopers

jovial nest
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oh thats slow enough for Thorns to actuall get to S3 perma

spark sinew
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you die anyway

jovial nest
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we talking any floor modifiers?

glass monolith
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Emergency is elite ranged paratroopers
Survivalist give all enemies +150% ATK or so HellaKek

jovial nest
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doesn't survivalist also boost our ops' ASPD?

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which one is that again?

glass monolith
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Issue is our brave ops attack fucking immortal metal crab in front

spark sinew
jovial nest
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.....wat?

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how?

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there's no vanguard guard starter

spark sinew
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although my bad memories are from not running e2 squads

jovial nest
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you random the 3 classes?

spark sinew
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e2 guard vanguard squad...

jovial nest
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oh

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of course

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I'm actually curious now

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wouldn't the best starter for IS2 guard be Galter?

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or is there a ranged check early on?

spark sinew
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e2 starts are generally too good so you can run almost whatever

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you can still wipe on grand finale though

smoky halo
lusty basin
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yea to be clear I only mentioned it because I assume @inner sun is a new player playing on normal mode

spark sinew
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for truly new players i would go with ling/pozy honestly

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depending on whether or not they have an answer for the boss

lusty basin
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yes fair

spark sinew
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or did they unlock the e2 squads already and i missed it?

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cause thorns e1 sucks and he won't kill the boss still

lusty basin
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oh right, those aren't by default

jovial nest
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yeah

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you unlock those squads

lusty basin
spark sinew
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yeah you need a clear on normal difficulty

jovial nest
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as for being forced to play E1 starters

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Ling is the better choice for IS2

spark sinew
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with the 5 of vangs/guards as well

lusty basin
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I wandered into #strategy by misclick anyway I shall take my leave

jovial nest
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her S2 spam can really kill a lot of enemies

lusty basin
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o7

jovial nest
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will struggle in hard mode though

spark sinew
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pozy can actually kill the boss with way less effort though 🫡

jovial nest
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but you shouldn't hard mode that early on

inner sun
jovial nest
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IS isn't going anywhere

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if anything

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doing IS too early

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is super unfun

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you're forced to recruit the same operators without flexibility

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imagine playing IS1....with just this

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it's not fun

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but it was a "bit fun" for me because it was FRESH AF content

spark sinew
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IS gives a ton of resources though

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especially if you do monthlies

jovial nest
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up to them. But without the missions, it takes forever to get high levels. So I recommend the latest IS

jovial nest
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and then work backwards

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you have a LOT more options than where i was

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you'd at least have a modicum of fun

spark sinew
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2 modern guards will just tear through IS

jovial nest
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as long as they don't go high on difficulty

spark sinew
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and you have options for other tickets

inner sun
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i tried the first difficulty to try it out

spark sinew
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well, normal difficulty is implied for IS2

inner sun
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then i got my ass beat by phantom

jovial nest
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even if missions are present in IS4....yeah we recommend you do IS2 first

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it works like the "tutorial" of ISs

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other ISs have more gimmicks and mechanics

spark sinew
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i remember dunking on phantom with carne

jovial nest
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IS2 is as vanilla as you can get

inner sun
spark sinew
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kal mly degen can just bait a teleport once and one cycle it

inner sun
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yeah but issue is

jovial nest
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behold the Poze supremacy back then

inner sun
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i got to phantom at like

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floor 3

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when my team is not even set up

jovial nest
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he's a bit more gimmicky than other Ending 1 bosses

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wait

inner sun
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difficulty determines ending?

jovial nest
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no

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there's encounter routes

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that trigger different ending floors or bosses

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they tend to be locked out of you

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until you kill the first ones

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you can't get to ending 2 without winning ending 1

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for example

spark sinew
jovial nest
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yeah it isn't

inner sun
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isnt the boss the operator

jovial nest
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floor 3 has no phantom

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nope

inner sun
jovial nest
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lemme check what you could've fought

inner sun
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i fought that guy

jovial nest
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that's floor 5

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not floor 3

inner sun
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must've progressed more than i thought

jovial nest
#

grats

inner sun
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yeah but still he beat my ass

jovial nest
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there's only 2-3 bosses per IS run normally

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1 boss in floor 3

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1 boss in floor 5

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and the extra floor 6 has a different one too (different ending)

inner sun
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my team was like virtuosa, specter, gladiia, NG, silence, liskarm myrtle

jovial nest
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btw

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if you want more specific tips or stuff about IS

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although most of it are gonna be dominated by IS4

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but you can ask there too for strats

inner sun
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thanks

jovial nest
#

this map gives PTSD to anyone who did IS1.
Back in IS1 there's not a lot of solutions for this map

inner sun
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but my last run wasn't the best since i didn't use a support unit

jovial nest
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in IS2 its a lot easier

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due to having more operator strength and options

smoky halo
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just get sarkaz treaty

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and sleepge

jovial nest
inner sun
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guh maybe i should've just made virtuosa murder most of the goon mobs at the right of the map where like 20 casters circle a big rock

smoky halo
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virt leaves them with 1 hp

inner sun
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virtuosa s3 in mob rushes:

jovial nest
#

I can't wait how IS plays like once we get 2 powerhouses in one banner. Wis and Logos

vivid rain
#

They just make floor 1 enemies counter wis start

jovial nest
#

like IS3's meta has always been long-ranged physical.
So I wonder how much Wis, Ray, Ela, and Typhon would dominate there.

jovial nest
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Went fully Degen

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and once Wis was released

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became Wis starts.

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you just have to adjust the timings on how to use the new set of ops

vivid rain
#

Or maybe they’ll make nymph start extremely good to sell her for the JPs

jovial nest
#

there's no such thing as "selling" ops in their events or ISs

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it's mostly coincidence if its good

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Chalter's event, Dossoles, was extremely anti against her strengths

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and Galter was also pretty annoyed by all the drunk dodging dwarves

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same for Poze

spark sinew
#

they definitely sold her in the CC though

jovial nest
#

well whoop de doo, that ain't during the banner's time

spark sinew
#

which was just after her event banner

jovial nest
#

its not exactly selling her when people can no longer get her

spark sinew
#

events are very easy so they never "sold" units there

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no, you just showing people what they could've had

jovial nest
#

plus R18 in old CCs were always flexible in clear strategies

glass monolith
# jovial nest same for Poze

I literally rushed Pozy to 3 OP minimalist stage (Gladiia to hold drone, Pozy to unalive drone, third body to eat car to buff Pozy) so don't try with your anti pozy propaganda HellaKek

spark sinew
#

so when another operator will come out they would want to pull for it

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just in case future event will he insanely good for them

jovial nest
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hell, some did it with Exu

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the damn Exu fans are resilient

glass monolith
glass wedge
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I mean 6-4

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How do u beat it

glass monolith
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Killing all enemies. CeobeConfused

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Possessed thrower bleed on his own but hurts, use defender with most DEF and medics to survive long enough their assault

glass wedge
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I mean Cuora

fickle zephyr
#

deploy cuora last

glass monolith
#

They don't move after they start attacking because big attack speed, so "deploy Cuora closer" can be potential answer too RedOmegaLul

narrow pendant
#

Borrow penance and have them kill themselves

turbid badge
#

lol

jovial nest
#

as long as they don't touch -MSPD immunity

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there will always be a stall

turbid badge
#

the nymph , +sp stalls & apparently cc duration relics affect fear? don't quote me on this are just :Bnuuy

turbid badge
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if it's sleep stall im not clicking sorry

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its a sadge lapdumb moment when i try to erato + mrnothing a boss than find out its sleep immune

glass monolith
#

It is all balls exploding after sleep stall

odd forge
#

help me for this map

narrow pendant
#

sir what is that sanity
Whats u need help with to be more exact?

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And your roster youre using SkadiDaijoubu

odd forge
#

my tank got one shot heh

somber falcon
#

is this tank in the room with us

narrow pendant
#

Still no e1? Kinda behind

foggy grove
#

you don't want to block the boss anyhow

odd forge
#

no e1 yeah

narrow pendant
#

You'd prolly want like, pozy+healer to dps skullshatter, you dont want to block her

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But no e1 hurts, you should have at least some at this pointSkadiDaijoubu

odd forge
#

alright, imma grind it

narrow pendant
#

I dont wanna be a dick but, youre basicaly almost at the end of act 1
You should have some

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It will only help you make the stages easier

odd forge
#

roger thatnoted

somber falcon
#

you can e1 some 3* first to help with raising the higher rarities, just don't forget they're ultimately a stepping stone and don't overfocus

narrow pendant
#

Well, some 3* are good to upgrade

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Steward, spot, kroos, fang

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If you have 4* like cuora, click, those are also good unitsSkadiDaijoubu

odd forge
#

okay, thanks

spark sinew
#

you're leveling way too many units

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way too many shit units as well

#

rarity!= performance here

potent prism
undone sundial
#

any tips for TG-8

vivid rain
undone sundial
vivid rain
#

Place someone there, if crownslayer touches them she dies

narrow pendant
#

Not in cm tho

potent prism
#

I'm struggling on that too

narrow pendant
#

Theres a hole

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Place someone right infront

somber stone
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Right above the hole not the box

cedar latch
#

Any tips for 3-8? I can't kill the leader before he comes down and kills everyone.

wicked viper
#

can you borrow la pluma

cedar latch
#

Maybe, which category is she?

vivid rain
#

i think executor alt works there too but idk

wicked viper
#

if its possible, try to borrow her skill 2, which is the burst dmg one, its easier that way but s1 work too

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also nah

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E1 executor is a lot weaker than e1 la pluma

vivid rain
#

huh that's funny

wicked viper
#

since s1 suck and s2 has lower dps

sly drift
foggy grove
#

on bursting

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because early game enemy doesn't have def so pluma s2 can burst

narrow patrol
#

Ok so uhh any ideas of how I can kill his phase 1 early? I feel like. I need a flag bearer so I can print enough dp to spam mines

merry narwhal
narrow patrol
#

I’m gonna need to e2 her ain’t I?

#

Then once invul for p2 ends and he throws the first spear (which iirc insta kills the furthest ranged op. Unless your Lin) I can burst him with Mlynar and degen

merry narwhal
#

you can also borrow Penance who solos (?) the map

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the enemies have really high defence thanks to Patriot, so casters generally do really well here

#

Archetto might not be the carry you need

civic bear
#

only use 1/2 ops to handle the mobs on bot left so you can spend more dp on pat p1 instead

merry narwhal
#

oh I see you ahve Mwinner? Can't you set a mine on the tile above Silence and then use Mwinner to pop p1?

narrow pendant
#

I mean, tifon solo's the first phase, doesnt she?

civic bear
#

bro wants to kill fast to do the stall thing

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or smth idk maybe thats what he wants to do

narrow patrol
#

As it turns out Amiya s3 can solo him with 1 mine

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That was rough

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I made a mistake in redeploying Amiya after Mlynar killed Patriot

shell arch
#

Weirdge, why would you want to kill Patrick p1 asap? RosThink

narrow patrol
#

So I could’ve Mlynar and degen s3 for his p2

shell arch
#

I mean, uh, is stalling him not an option?

narrow patrol
#

My initial runs had me killing him too late/deep into the map that the burn of his phase 2 just
Murders everyone

shell arch
#

P2 burn as in ranged spear attack?

narrow patrol
#

No the AoE burn just by being near him

strange fable
#

His aura burn

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not the spear

shell arch
#

ExeNaruhodo i kinda forgor patrick mechanism already

narrow patrol
#

Click was mostly to help clear bottom lane And Draw the spear

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Also borrowed Ptilo to help keep degenbrecher alive because frankly my perfumer and Silence were NOT cutting it

shell arch
#

Ptilopsus s2 has poggers hp/s so yeah

narrow patrol
#

And trying to stall him with defenders wasn’t exactly an option either

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Poor Cuora

shell arch
#

I meant to stall one enemy and let mines do the job of soling patrick p1

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So when p2 you can burst him down

narrow patrol
#

Yeah no I tried that before. Cuora can take a lot of abuse but Patriot is something else

#

Also the burn usually kills her

shell arch
narrow patrol
#

Maybe if she was e2 but eh

#

Another time

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I still have enough chip glue for Ela and Shu

shell arch
#

Don't e2 cuora

This advice comes from e2 cuora haver

glass monolith
narrow patrol
#

Seriously tho I hate to imagine how rough this was for year 1 where Amiya was your only real means of hurting him

strange fable
#

we had schwarz

shell arch
#

P2 is quite burstable with eyja sash

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P1 is solo'ed with mines or with the help of eyja s3

narrow patrol
#

Fair. Don’t have Goat girl volcanologist tho

vivid rain
#

P2 is squishy and doesnt hit hard

narrow patrol
#

Time to go into chapter 8 and Suffer

#

Nightingale gale borrow will likely make my life easier for THAT fight?

vivid rain
#

Chapter 8 is kinda easy actually with our selection nowadays

shell arch
#

My 7-18 auto looks like this. I haven't touched it since I cleared it

#

Makes me wonder how on earth I dealt with Patrick p2 ExuStare

vivid rain
#

Patrick phase 2 doesnt even hit hard smh

civic bear
#

we got mines so

shell arch
#

Then again I've heard modern ops like navia can solo talulah

civic bear
#

can kill pat with mostly mines

spice mortar
#

If you dont have any of the 6 star tanks cuora is a good option

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Cheap too

vivid rain
#

I wish i never had to use cuora e2

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She is evil, albeit a necessary one

shell arch
#

I mean can't you just borrow hoshi/nian? RosThink

spice mortar
#

But what if you have to borrow a carry a need a brick

civic bear
#

borrowing tank is just not optimal tho CeobeConfused

spice mortar
#

Cuora is good

#

Thr e2 stats are worth her e2

shell arch
#

I'm quite biased since I rarely miss anyone so my mindset is if don't have them, borrow them

spice mortar
#

Mod is such a good upgrade too

spice mortar
civic bear
#

i mean if you have

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most 6*

#

no shit CeobeConfused

shell arch
#

So cuora worth e2 if you're missing nian/hoshi?

civic bear
#

for sure

spice mortar
#

Yes

shell arch
#

ExeNaruhodo i see

#

I can finally cope my e2 cuora usecase HellaHands

spice mortar
#

I mean what is there to cope, high def brick for cheap mats

shell arch
#

Sir I'm afraid to inform you but I started with shining hoshi ange HellaHands

civic bear
#

nian hoshi doesnt regen bythemselves so

spice mortar
#

I mean then yeah cuora usecase falls off but you can always switch things up with ur units

shell arch
#

Generally you want to sustain nian hoshi with medics, no? I've always thought cuora s2 regen is just a small bonus

spice mortar
#

It allows her to solo tank lanes others cant which can be useful

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Or if ur strapped on dp

civic bear
#

her threshold is like 1250

#

which is pretty high

shell arch
#

I can see the strapped on dp part

#

That's cuora offskill def?

vivid rain
#

Using cuora reminds me of TRC rng hell

civic bear
#

yes

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1200 def

#

so effectively 1250

shell arch
civic bear
#

she heals ~100 hps

shell arch
#

Good point

civic bear
#

she can stalls a lot of thing on her own

#

i wish theres a 6* variant of that

#

unfortunately there isnt

#

😔

shell arch
#

Is hoshi not an alternative? ExuStare

civic bear
#

heal defender has too low def

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no heals bro

spice mortar
#

Cuora levels of def on a self regenning 6* would be broke for stall

civic bear
#

i mean she's unkillable technically

#

but yeah

#

self regen with high def doesnt really exist

vivid rain
#

Maxed Cuora have 1203 def actually BlitzSmile

vivid rain
spice mortar
#

Cuora is my goat man

shell arch
#

Eusnecctes s3 doesn't have regen or I'm schizo?

civic bear
#

she does

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but she stuns herself

shell arch
civic bear
#

bad stall

shell arch
#

Now i know why i didn't know s3 eun has regen

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It's because i never used her

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Smh

civic bear
#

closest you could "get" would be

shell arch
#

Are there any practical usecase of using eun s3?

civic bear
#

aurora. but only if she not blocking. but even then its not enough

#

eun s3 is basicly skadi s3 ah built in

#

i mean its there but

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% is too low for todays standard

tidal sedge
civic bear
#

yeah he counts

#

he doesnt have as high max hp as others but its good enough

shell arch
civic bear
#

and doesnt get too high in defense either 😔

#

kinda want the option to reach that 2k threshold every now and then

narrow patrol
shell arch
#

This sounds silly but there are chances that you can get Hoshi from recruitment

narrow patrol
#

IF I get TO tag. It’ll be a while

shell arch
#

I will bless you to get top op tag next week

summer copper
shell arch
#

True! (Now with shades.)

severe musk
#

This is my core team, what module should I develop first?

strange fable
#

can NG mod lvl 1

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and Hoshi +def mod lvl 1

severe musk
#

👍

odd forge
jovial nest
#

new anni and new SSS food medals soon.

narrow pendant
#

10-17 sucksAmiyaDeskBang

vivid rain
#

10-17 is easy smh

narrow pendant
#

I beat it but mans annoyingAmiyaDeskBang

glass wedge
#

How to do 6-11

glass wedge
delicate quail
#

LF strat to clear LT6 Reciding Tides

vivid rain
dusk schooner
#

anyone help with 5-3?

vivid rain
strange fable
dusk schooner
strange fable
#

just borrow to make it simple

dusk schooner
#

even vanguards

strange fable
#

have e2?

#

Or no e2 yet?

dusk schooner
strange fable
#

Deploy to kill caster

#

Does yato die at e1?

#

E1 max looks fine

vivid rain
#

Nah even melantha lives long enough to kill them

dusk schooner
vivid rain
#

Metamancing amirite

dusk schooner
#

it kils the casters in seconds

cosmic thicket
dull sage
#

caster trouble yato alter
shielder trouble mlynar
boss trouble degenbreacher BreezeHappy

vivid rain
#

Nuh uh mlynar solves all of them

glass monolith
#

Just Ambriel + Golgenglow your troubles from opposite corner of map BlitzSmile

vivid rain
#

Ambriel proceed to target slugs and the hovering guy just float by and initialize a drive-by

glass monolith
#

Eventually map will run out of slugs

#

So Ambriel will eventually help

#

Or map has 0 DEF barricade destoying which unlocks enemy shortcut into blue box ChenShrug

grand iron
#

3-7 scared me by spamming caster, breaking my left frontline in a sec

#

what should I do

#

it break so fast that like the defensive of france in 1939-1940 when facing the blitzkrieg of german

narrow pendant
#

Thank you for the history lessonRedOmegaLul

grand iron
narrow pendant
#

Wait a sec, need to look at that stage DocSmile

#

Ah its this stage

grand iron
cosmic thicket
#

Roadblocc

grand iron
narrow pendant
#

Well, you can use the blocks to make a conga line on the left, and use the device when casters get in range

Yiu can use a fast redeploy to block the casters which reveals them

You can borrow someone like Ines or Silverash that have invis reveal

narrow pendant
grand iron
grand iron
#

WDYM

cosmic thicket
#

Isn't there a giant beacon that reveals invis

cosmic thicket
narrow pendant
#

I think it do

cosmic thicket
#

2 different stages

grand iron
#

S3-7

narrow pendant
#

Say that then

grand iron
#

xd

#

3-7 is just easy but S3-7 is a whole another story

#

I manage to get 2 star when focus all healer at the left defensive

#

but the right defensive break apart

#

oof

narrow pendant
#

Well, invis reveal, or block close to the spawn so they have as much time to hit

cosmic thicket
#

What's does map look like again

narrow pendant
cosmic thicket
#

Tf is that

#

I don't remember the stage LOL

grand iron
#

but none

narrow pendant
grand iron
#

I am up courier until my enemy, sanity appear

narrow pendant
#

L then, i got ines but invis reveal is e2 talent

grand iron
narrow pendant
#

I have no such title

#

Im a poor 3 months old newbie

grand iron
narrow pendant
#

Ok ic

#

I have no idea what your roster looks like

grand iron
#

let me send you summary about mah team

narrow pendant
#

But, have a blocker on the bottom, right where they spawn, a healer for him and a sniper(kroos) in the grass

#

Casters come, get blocked and revealed, sniper shall kill

grand iron
narrow pendant
#

And u can prolly do the same for the top tooRedOmegaLul

narrow pendant
grand iron
narrow pendant
#

Angelina or suzu then im guessing

grand iron
#

IT IS F SUZU

narrow pendant
#

Suzu is amazing

grand iron
narrow pendant
#

For later content, quite meh early indeed

cosmic thicket
#

suzu is at least the strongest 6* in the newbie banner for endgame

narrow pendant
grand iron
cosmic thicket
#

nah

#

on the bright side the broken DPS ops to come will be even better with suzu S3 up

#

ig ela is the exception bc she already has her own source of fragile

grand iron
cosmic thicket
#

I mean it's enough to solve most stages

grand iron
#

even final chap of the final story? MuelsyseShock

cosmic thicket
#

Yes because story stages aren't that scary
Boss stages sometimes not enough

grand iron
#

but only usable when she s3?

#

D:

#

btw when yapping around, my zenless zero instal 15% after 1 hour

cosmic thicket
#

yeah she's only super post e2 and mastery

narrow pendant
#

Done, not hard

grand iron
narrow pendant
#

See, pretty easy even with that

#

Would probably switch places on healers

#

Casters hurt more

spark sinew
grand iron
#

not too hard, just becasue of my stupid placement ._.

#

I forgot the area where 2 enemies will go around

narrow pendant
grand iron
narrow pendant
#

They didnt

grand iron
narrow pendant
#

Well

#

They didnt until lapp died, she was where courier is on that pic

#

But just place someone else and they stop

#

Last deployed operator is the one enemies attack

grand iron
#

perfumer is at the left of the click

narrow pendant
#

I put her there cuz enemies were about to leakSkadiDaijoubu

grand iron
#

._.

#

I place her there for just dmg support

#

since I get pudding

grand iron
#

their sacrifice will not be forgetten DocSmile

grand iron
narrow pendant
#

I just used the squad you said u have is all

grand iron
narrow pendant
#

I dont have her cuz shes not good

#

And i use red certs for other thingsSkadiDaijoubu

grand iron
cyan gorge
#

All chain casters are meh, at least till they get module

ripe girder
#

Oh damn i missed that red box on corner of screen

glass monolith
#

Relatable RedOmegaLul Except i missed red box on some H stage

modern copper
#

Send herp

dapper hedge
#

Do you have lappland

#

Also put down saria next to flametail when theguy on right spawn

crisp bolt
#

a penance is all you need (or a rat) DocSmile

remote perch
# modern copper

why is click facing left, make her face down so she can actually hit the defenders
and place saria after placing click so the dudes on the right take aggro on her

save coura skill when the hard hitting dude comes
get more meatshield to stall time too

crisp bolt
#

you can ignore the throwers if you can keep the bait alive

remote perch
#

remove the units u didn't use
and get shits like gravel or whatever ground units u have so u can stall the hard hitting dude on the left until it kills itself

crisp bolt
#

also you can hold on to degen s2 for the melee guys that do big damage

modern copper
compact shoal
#

Arts damage from melee range most likely, the shield guy have high def,

dapper hedge
tight phoenix
#

hey guy can u give me suggestions on who to build and E2?

cyan gorge
#

Hard to give suggestions when you don’t show the options SkadiDaijoubu

glass monolith
#
  1. 11 characters to carry you 24/7.
  2. Your Waifu in 12th slot.
  3. Literally anything which is not nailed down, you have 11 characters to carry you anyway
dapper hedge
glass monolith
#

Wait shield dudes regen not silenceable? Either way this tile is awesome for arts damage lords - on skill Midnight / Lapp / QB to kill shields

cyan gorge
#

Skalter, Gnosis, Stainless, Warfarin are the standouts to me

tight phoenix
cyan gorge
#

Hoshi too since having a big def defender is good in the long run

glass monolith
#

2 days to do last of this stupid SSS and i still have 3 missions to do FiaDed

foggy grove
#

i have recruiting medic uncleared yet because who normally draft that shit

limpid siren
#

minor inconvenience

glass monolith
#

"You probably wonder how i end up in this situation"

narrow pendant
#

Who woupdve thought that passanger with the special chain caster relic is so fun

glass monolith
#

So how hard your finger hurt from all those S3 activations? RedOmegaLul

narrow pendant
#

Not at all, i like spammy spam

#

Its why i cant wait for zuo

glass monolith
#

I cope to obtain Zuo because i have Silence Alter who will nicely combine with my skill issue which would normally let him get killed between S3 uses

narrow pendant
#

The rare salter use

turbid badge
glass monolith
turbid badge
#

i love silatler

turbid badge
narrow pendant
turbid badge
#

that's why i m3 shamare anything under 30 seconds is aoughh,
same reason why im raising regular silence drone
18 sp drone

30 sp cost but it has no sp lockout

i play at 2x so this double fast

lethal dragon
latent monolith
#

Silence in that HP drain SSS be like

modern copper
#

I feel like I've got the right concept for 6-5 but I'm still doing smth wrong

#

I hope the quality isn't too bad it took 12% of my battery to compress

#

Nvm 13%

dapper hedge
#

Didn't you have saria

#

Oh nvm that was a borrow

narrow pendant
# modern copper

Are you playing like, without borrowing at all? SkadiDaijoubu
Cuz someone like Lin or Penance makes the stage a breeze

cyan gorge
#

oh wait Cutter is e2

#

just borrow Penance SkadiDaijoubu

vivid rain
#

He doesnt borrow iirc

dapper hedge
#

Wait yeah, so he does have saria where is she Bnuuy why beagle & spot

pearl sentinel
#

What do they mean by same as smarty's attributes???

#

That white thingy above his head?

narrow pendant
#

Oh for the event

#

Yeah

dapper hedge
pearl sentinel
#

How does my op even get one of those?

#

Cuz I can't seem to block them

narrow pendant
#

You dont

pearl sentinel
#

Oh

narrow pendant
#

Thats the kicker

#

You kill them quick, preferably from range

#

Cuz the explosion on CM hurts a decent bit