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next wigeon
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@long lotus borrow a Blaze

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She can Lanehold top lane

void axle
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Yep but I need heals šŸ˜…

next wigeon
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Let me just get Map.Arknights

viscid mist
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šŸ‘

celest bluff
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I think RS-8 auto stable be damn

narrow pendant
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Dont e2 silence

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She doesnt benefit a lot from it, keep at e1 max lvlSkadiHug

next wigeon
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@long lotus I think this is the layout

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Before placing Degen place Myrtle first then retreat after getting Dp

viscid mist
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my perfumer is e2 so i'm not sure how applicable she can be for healing

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on the flipside i never needed to use her skill

next wigeon
viscid mist
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degenbrecher

next wigeon
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Ic

viscid mist
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i just noticed that because i got an e2 perfumer i borrowed an e2 degen instead

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:icant:

next wigeon
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Lmao

gaunt seal
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https://krooster.com/u/Yujiko
Is there a good strategy that I can do with my current squad for water and fire union?
I used Degenbreacher starter and going for Izumik, but the exploding slugs gave me problems, the bosses were terrifying

viscid mist
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zzzz why cant we just unlevel the operators for this kind of thing

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maybe i can do this without degen

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let me check

deft orbit
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Idk what's happening but there is a stupid variable that ruining my auto even though I already cleared rs8

glass monolith
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Well it is AK. when it breaks make new one

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Amount of reasons something break can go so wild that i gave up trying to figure it out

vague rock
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Lin S2 has an actual use case SkadiDaijoubu

celest bluff
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Mod?

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Hmm maybe that not important

vague rock
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SL7 mod 1

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nightingale is also SL 7

viscid mist
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what exactly is she doing there

vague rock
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shield

glass monolith
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Lin with module and NG res buff tanked all BS i assume

vague rock
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pretty much

glass monolith
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Which doesn't explain why everything else is alive

viscid mist
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eh

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wont you need ng skill

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this sounds like some bandaid fix

scarlet mortar
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i mean the squishy ranged ops live bc of lin and the others shrugged it off with NG ig

glass monolith
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oh i didn't read S2 part

dusk schooner
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anyone help me with 2-10?

soft roost
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😈

polar crane
dusk schooner
polar crane
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just a bit more

celest bluff
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I only start using Myrtle after chapter 8

long lotus
dusk schooner
polar crane
dusk schooner
polar crane
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I want to try lv1 unit so you can easily copy it

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but it kinda hard so I build everyone to lv20

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last try I promise

celest bluff
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Arknights definitely can do wonder with a sandbox mode

glass monolith
dusk schooner
viscid mist
dusk schooner
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can you just tell me what units are good for the stage

dusk schooner
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my messages aren't loading bruh

viscid mist
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i think it would make whole thing easier

polar crane
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oh yeah right

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try borrow kalstit, she will most likely have s1 but you can do it with that

viscid mist
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if you roll enough you might find kal s2

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if you cant be bothered though s1 might be enough

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i used ling s2 for this stage but might be a bit complicated to you

glass monolith
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Issue is friend support downgrades S3 to S1, and like who on Earth has it on S2 RedOmegaLul

viscid mist
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kal s2 is nnot that uncommon

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its a good skill after all

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easier than finding a degen s2 for this matter

glass monolith
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Not impossible but like i hit 15 minute per refresh or something hunting for S3 Ifrit once

viscid mist
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yeah cause ifrit s3 is bad

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😈

glass monolith
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-60 attack speed in CC7 WAS BAD TOO FrankaWheeze

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God praise Heavyrain S2 was countering that shit, otherwise it would be cringe missing challenge #8 on CC

next wigeon
void axle
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Any tip to improve this?

cyan gorge
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where exactly is is going wrong?

void axle
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I’m too far from completing , my ops die… maybe eifja and perfumer are not enough?

cyan gorge
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I mean I can't suggest improvements if I don't even know if it works yet or not ReedBean

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or at the very least know what causes your ops to die

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if it's boss nuke, just be careful with bursting him

void axle
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I can’t kill boss on first loop so the next one he come at top…. And then I need to use degen + mylnar to clear so mylnar blocks him and he insta shot me

cyan gorge
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iirc he does 4k phys damage against blocked

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so yeah ofc Mlynar dies

void axle
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I completed last 3 or 4 events but I think maybe I should wait till rerun and have better ops this time

cyan gorge
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I focused on killing Harold with Horn, Mlynar for the other mobs

void axle
cyan gorge
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where your degen is with s3

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s2 works too but I preferred s3's ability to cancel without bursting

void axle
peak cloak
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i told u not to active the stoves too early, aciddrop on kroos/click position if thing isnt working, i've noted u that, just kill them one by one.
as u dont even have degen s3 so dont screw up yourself by active stoves too early.

cyan gorge
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I had a medic defender to do most of the blocking

void axle
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I guess it’s skill problem because wen you see how easy some YouTubers can complete using low level ops šŸ˜…

cyan gorge
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Mlynar face up to avoid doing too much dmg to boss

void axle
cyan gorge
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phase 2 was activated on the first go around from right

void axle
cyan gorge
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I did it easily with Suzu and Horn

void axle
spark sinew
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what's your borrow

cyan gorge
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bottom right heater

spark sinew
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it's eyja isn't it....

void axle
void axle
peak cloak
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i found an ifrit tile

radiant dune
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I was able to one shot him with a cursed warf degen shamare and thrm ex combo

latent halo
peak cloak
hoary oasis
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i borrow him?

peak cloak
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send me your ops again

hoary oasis
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slr

near folio
spark sinew
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saria tanks semi consistently

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probably tanks forever with shelter

noble pewter
# void axle Any tip to improve this?

Why not put mylnar at degen position face down, n hoshi at mlynar position, just block boss n activate mlynar after he do turn off heater skill n u have turned back on, kill slowly at that position, add more healer if hoshi can't tank, use fast redeploy like ines etc to kill incoming threats like invis sniper, flamethrower n snowball

spark sinew
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(you probably don't even need shelter but just 2 good medics, mine had ng+eyja, and probably died from the heater turning off)

near folio
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Actually Mod Y Saria might be able to tank him with full stacks

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By tank I mean survive a hit in phase 1 with like 5% hp

spark sinew
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she tanks phase1 without breaking a sweat

near folio
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Shelter is calc after defense reduction right?

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Saria should be taking around 2975 damage E2 90 mod Y without any stacks

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Yeah she actually tanks harold better than Cuora

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Phase 1 at least

spark sinew
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it's basically impossible to have 0 stacks isn't it

near folio
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Actually she can also tank phase 2 with some stacks

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Mod Y for healing defenders is broken

spark sinew
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i just told told that

near folio
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I should have thought of that

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Would have made my run a lot easier instead of coping Cuora Salter and reedalter

spark sinew
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hoshi/nian should also be better than cuora

near folio
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I kinda lost trust in healing defenders ever since Cliff shredded anything that didnt have more than 1500 natural def with some debuff stacks

spark sinew
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since her downtime is a bit too big afaik?

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maybe bubble as well

near folio
near folio
spark sinew
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i disagree!
Nothing is a shitty tank

near folio
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Bubble atk debuff lasts 5 seconds, Harold's interval might make it tricky for her to survive

near folio
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These are not normal numbers we are dealing with anymore

spark sinew
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you're no fun
but it's also weird as if we're talking past each other

near folio
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Bubble would be better against bosses with faster intervals like steam knight and Zaaro though

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Even Cliff

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Cliff cant do anything against a bubble

spark sinew
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cliff was easy to deal with due to him not advancing on tactician pets or dolls

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and then you could just use ethan to have basically perma vent uptime

near folio
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His phase 2 still destroys defenders even in vent with enough debuff stacks

spark sinew
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so you just use dollkeepers

near folio
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That's where Bubble's atk debuff lets her last longer than other low rarity defenders

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Harold is like the only boss where Cuora actually performs better than Bubble

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Which is pretty sad

spark sinew
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why is that sad

near folio
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Unless Harold's interval is lower than 5 secs in which case Cuora loses again

spark sinew
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his is 6seconds

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so easiest way is to just mudrock it

near folio
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Mudrock + mr nothing can permastall harold eyjaslug

spark sinew
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i mean mud+ling duo clear the stage

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in both s2 and s3

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idk about using Nothing for that

tall cairn
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B-but why would you permastall Harold.JessNotLikeThis

near folio
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Can't stop ling from being ling

spark sinew
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and he dies regardless during snowstorm

tall cairn
narrow pendant
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Best stall is gladia+spalter anyway

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Smh

spark sinew
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spalter kinda dies

celest bluff
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I swear to god they just increase the chance to drop a tag after the update

narrow pendant
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She was the one i used for stalling, she survives a hit, combined it with ng and she stalled quite well

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And when she was killed, he was slow so by the time she revived, he was still on her tile and that pushed harold back to the front of her tile

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And that repeated until harold diedeyjaslug

spark sinew
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huh

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did you have anyone else slowing/binding

celest bluff
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Worth mod 3?

unkempt lintel
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not rly... mod1 is fine

weak gazelle
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asking it then the answer is simply no

narrow pendant
narrow pendant
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Oh, also degen tremble rng abuse

craggy ether
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viable placement? lapp and degen, two those are just defenders

celest bluff
craggy ether
celest bluff
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3 F

craggy ether
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??? 😢

noble pewter
craggy ether
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yea

noble pewter
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Def for defender

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Should have just drawn a shield symbol like the in game class symbol Bnuuy ClassDefender

craggy ether
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yea

celest bluff
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This is what I used last year

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Lapp facing up so she can silence top lane

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Last year I must be smoking some heavy shit to use Surtr s2

celest bluff
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I guess what need to do is get 300 dp

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Retreat flag

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Then use Caster to kill the guy in bottom and top box

crisp bolt
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the random place where steward shiness DocSmile

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I remember using him to deal with the guy that stands on the top left originum tile because of the talent targetting

peak cloak
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Amiya pog, what exu is doing right here

crisp bolt
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dealing with the flying enemies in the bottom lane

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that's the kyo strat for it

glass monolith
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šŸ§€

crisp bolt
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who needs silence when you have someone to block the spread

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also are you using weedy there to push the enemy back into the red box so it doesn't drop nethersea?

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can't even remember if any spawn from there

remote perch
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There is

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Pretty sure it's the old dudes

crisp bolt
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I still find it hilarious that you can abuse the fact enemies can't spawn nethersea on certain tiles to stop them from dropping any

glass monolith
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Top box spawn normal spread on death dudes. I assume by old you mean bubble dudes? those come from ladder i think. And ladder is one of no spread spawn tiles

narrow patrol
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Any ideas? Feels like I can’t sustain all 4 heaters without the lighters

tidal sedge
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Hmm

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Typhon can pretty much solo dps the stage if you give her time. I'd have Gummy hold rightmost heater. Put Degen in front of Typhon. Lapp above Degen.

narrow patrol
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I feel like i lack means to sustain the heaters

tidal sedge
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Er wait

narrow patrol
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Lack of ranged
Ops and all

tidal sedge
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Degen below Typhon

narrow patrol
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I also need 1 free slot to bait the snowballs

tidal sedge
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Use any robots you may have for that

narrow patrol
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Unless you suggest there’s anyone I should replace

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I usually use gravel

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I’m referring to the Victorian snowball throwers

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Not Harold’s global fuck you nume

tidal sedge
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I know

narrow patrol
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Thing is robots take too long to redeploy

somber falcon
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Snowballs aren't really an issue for ground ops

tidal sedge
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They're probably killing Perf

narrow patrol
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They kinda are to me

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And perfumer

somber falcon
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Just don't put ranged ops in their cardinal tiles

vivid rain
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maybe remove cuora from squad? dont know what she really do here

narrow patrol
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Who’d I replace cuora with?

vivid rain
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more frd to bait snowball, idk

tidal sedge
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Hmm

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Actually I'd put Perf top

narrow patrol
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I’m thinking if I should e2 my
Medics for the added bulk too

tidal sedge
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That way the snowballs would see Mlynar first

vivid rain
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dont think this stage have much phys damage, and e1 cuora wont be able to tank harold anyway

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so most of the threats are really just the art snow balls, the canister guys and harold attacks

tidal sedge
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Maybe try something like this

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If bottom heater goes out, Degen s3 to take it back

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Actually, hmm.

narrow patrol
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That global is suffering

eager vale
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have you tried a GG s2 borrow? (or if you have her)
her range covers the top and bottom heaters, which will free up archetto's slot for a 3rd healer maybe

narrow patrol
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Nope no GG

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This was with all 4 heaters

eager vale
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you're still getting blasted even with 4 heaters on?

tidal sedge
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Harold is probably popping global attack when heaters are on cd after shut off

hollow pier
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Burst him down after he turns off your heaters (and you are in the process of turning them on)

tidal sedge
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I think I agree. Consistent dps like Typhon might be a problem. She might be making Harold hit hp thresholds when heaters are down.

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You'll have to work around that or use more controlled dps methods

eager vale
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oh, no wonder you're getting blasted. you're rushing phase2 with uncle lol

tidal sedge
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I'm just shooting ideas tbh

eager vale
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oh wait, you're not the guy asking, my b

tidal sedge
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My own strat was let Typhon work down everything and pop Eyja alter s3 and Nightingale s3 to ignore global attack

eager vale
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honestly, same. but then i learned harold animation locks, so i had fun bursting him down with Degen (+buffs) RedOmegaLul

spark sinew
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oh?

narrow patrol
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Gravel came in clutch

eager vale
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nice job BPOk

narrow patrol
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Took a global and as Harold made his way to the end gravel stalled him long enough for degen to murk him

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Think I took two Global’s at once

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That was painful

glass monolith
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Now do it 2 more time, on EX-8 and EX-8 CM HellaKek

narrow patrol
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Nope

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I’m not that insane

glass monolith
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And don't forget to light all 5 ovens in EX-8 for medal

narrow patrol
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Crying harder

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Maybe in rerun

soft roost
narrow pendant
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By depleting his hp to 0 twice

soft roost
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šŸ˜“

hard willow
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I'm looking for some help on RS-8

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I managed to get Harold hp bar 1 down at 20/28 enemies remaining burning everything, but then his phase change explosion messed up my melee backline

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Should I be trying to break his first phase bar without clustering my units?

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The problem is that I mostly got through the period before he approached by running a defensive perimeter around Silverash and burning truesilver. I'm not sure Monster and Mudrock could hold the sides without his normal DPS even aside from truesilver.

somber falcon
hard willow
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Mud E2, Monster E1

somber falcon
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What are your other ops?

hard willow
somber falcon
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Ok i can see the problem
You'll also be hard pressed to tank his p2

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Maybe try mud s3 to slow him down a bit on p1?

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Also bring another medic if you can

hard willow
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Don't really have anything good in my barracks for that

eager vale
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How far are you from e2 mlynar? That probably will make it a lot easier for you. Also, i agree with bringing more medics. At least 2 (kal dont count xd)

hard willow
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The problem is the chips

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I've got the rest

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Oh wait I have enough supporter chips to trade in, yeah I'll E2 him real quick

eager vale
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nonono

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maybe check IS for chips? dont monthly squads give beeg chips?

hard willow
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It's too late, the deed is done

eager vale
hard willow
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I don't really have much levelled for medics

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And the Mlynar E2 did drain basically all my funds to level one up

glass monolith
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Kal is "medic" HellaHands

eager vale
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you can probably just cope with kal then, just dont deploy monsta RedOmegaLul

hard willow
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So should I run one of the less levelled ones or just go in with 1.5 medics?

spice mortar
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Her s2 can last 3 nukes for me

eager vale
hard willow
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At this point my brain is fried on these

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What support unit would be best for me to take so I can win and see the story?

soft roost
spice mortar
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Why would he lvl ptilo if he has ng PtiloThonk

soft roost
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If he has who

eager vale
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nightingale (ng)

soft roost
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She's slow asf

eager vale
soft roost
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The only good thing ab her is the little thing she got to summon to be a sacrifice and her halloween OUTIFT

eager vale
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although your original set up felt kinda sus since you're letting the canister guys in

glass monolith
pallid veldt
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NG doesnt replace ptilos usage at all

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But fwiw he shouldnt be leveling ptilo anytime soon so it doesnt really matter

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The main thing with this boss is you want to keep the heaters on obviously

hard willow
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At this point the big problem with my setup is that when P2 hits I can hold the line for a good while but the big burst move kills 7 units in one go even if I scatter them

pallid veldt
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So keep ops in each heater zone that can shoot other heaters

eager vale
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scattering them wont help much, the main mechanic is the heaters

pallid veldt
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U need to keep like 4-5 heaters on when he does burst move

eager vale
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for every heater you have turned off, you eat 1 more snowball nuke from the boss when it hits a threshold (75, 50, 25% hp)

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and that's on top of the stats he gains (i think?)

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or DR specifically

hard willow
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So yeah, Goldenglow is probably a good choice then

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Anything that lets me manage left side heaters

pallid veldt
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Its probably not necessary to keep left heater on with ur team

eager vale
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move your set up forward on the top side so jet canisters dont nuke 2 of your heaters

pallid veldt
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But if u really want to its not a bad idea

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What setup r u doing rn

eager vale
pallid veldt
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Yeah move ur setup to the left

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Like 2-3 tiles to the left

hard willow
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Yeah I shifted that let me show my setup

narrow pendant
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Her summons are awesome tho

hard willow
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(I levelled Harold since he seemed neat)

pallid veldt
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Is kal facing down

hard willow
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Yeah

pallid veldt
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What is SA doing

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Blocking for bottom lane?

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Wait MR is mud right

hard willow
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Honestly it's a bit awkward since I need someone to keep heater on and if I don't make it SA I do bleed Mud side in P1

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But yeah

pallid veldt
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Where is mlynar going

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Mlynar and mud should be fine for bottom lane

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Throw a VG on that rightmost tile and keep them there

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There are better uses for SA

hard willow
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If I keep a vanguard in final comp that would mean removing NG since I currently use Gladia to tank snowballs

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(She gets two shot by them which is more than most of my other disposable units)

pallid veldt
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You shouldnt need to tank 2 snowballs

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Is what we’re saying

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Base nuke from boss is 1 snowball

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Every unlit heater = another snowball

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We’re moving ur comp to the left in order to keep more heaters on

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Id even put like a ranged unit above kal to be able to hit middle heater from top

hard willow
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No I mean the snowball units not Harold

pallid veldt
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Oh

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Bait snowballs with FRD

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you have more deployment limit

hard willow
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FRD?

pallid veldt
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Fast redeploy

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Gravel red

hard willow
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That's fair, I've got Red kinda levelled

eager vale
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doesnt really have to be levelled. they're just gonna be deployed to die for the snowballs from the bottom lane

hard willow
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Well they have to be able to tank at least one

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That's the reason I like Gladia for it

pallid veldt
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I dont think they do

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But it doesnt matter

eager vale
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nah, you deploy in the middle of the 2 guys, they throw at the same time

pallid veldt
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Point is use red

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Yeah they dont have to land to count

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Use red s1 btw

halcyon adder
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Bisa

pallid veldt
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Bapa

fading wagon
delicate flare
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how do I clear 10-11 with this squad? can't really borrow anyone since i need to auto it for blue rocks SkadiDaijoubu

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the bottom lane has been my main issue so far

viscid mist
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try something like this

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block the chain casters so they get killed by virtuosa

delicate flare
viscid mist
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you can use surtr once saria dies

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if you kill them theres no ranged pressure to virtuosa

delicate flare
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but i was able to just surtr it in the end TexasDumb

viscid mist
delicate flare
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luckiest clear ever

viscid mist
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surtr and virtuosa solve this stage mainly

delicate flare
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can you help me with 10-12 though

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i need grindstones for cuora e2

viscid mist
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you don't have mudrock right

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or penance

delicate flare
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I couldn't surtr that stage

delicate flare
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i've heard saria w/ module can handle the artillery but I'm too broke to figure that out

viscid mist
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šŸ¤”

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makes sense

viscid mist
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virtuosa body switching seems to work flawlessly

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she will kill all the slugs just by existing thanks to talent

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when it gets overwhelming you press s3

delicate flare
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o

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im gonna give this a try

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thanks!

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probably just gonna bring a ton other random fodder defenders

viscid mist
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yeah, keeping things in place will work well

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just be careful that they don't get hit by artilery

delicate flare
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ok wtf that worked extremely well

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now i feel dumb for spending 1 hour at it

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thanks man

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mfw everything just dies

viscid mist
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🫔

glass monolith
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Only 1 hour? My plank for feeling dump in this game is much higher RedOmegaLul

ripe trellis
fading wagon
ripe trellis
ripe trellis
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i dont think i've ever gone into the double digits on any event stages (except farming)

fading wagon
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so i'm finally done with the event got all badges

urban temple
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Im stuck on 4-10, any suggestions?

radiant dune
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Idk how useful it’ll be but yato alter s2 does annihilate that boss, might take a few more cycles at e1 though

misty heath
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hello rs-ex-8 is driving me crazy help

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my tank selection for stalling is uhh, uhhhhhhh

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I don't really know if there's anyone that can really survive him

radiant dune
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Depends on ur roster but it’s entirely possible to not ever need to block harold

misty heath
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is there a tool that lets me automatically share my roster? sending screenshots doesn't feel optimal lol

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dont want to spam

radiant dune
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Aside from Krooster not that I’m aware of

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Ngl I’ve only tried two ways of beating harold which focused either on mlynar or degen, ya got either of them? I’m not the best at strats but I can try to help anyways til someone smarter comes around

misty heath
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I do have maxed Młynar but so far

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i just murder first stage > get murdered

radiant dune
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Each Mylar ability can take out half of his health, so the strat I used for mlynar was stall him in range by spamming frds, then once his skill runs out let harold through and recharge it

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Blocking harold is generally just a lot more effort than it’s worth because 4k damage hurts, main focus should be on keeping lighters lit

misty heath
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yeah his dmg is doing a lot..

radiant dune
misty heath
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oh from them I only have gravel semi raised

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well, yato too xd

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alter i mean

radiant dune
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They don’t gotta be high level, just to tank his melee and push him back a bit while he’s inside mlynar schwing range

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Being uninvested makes em even better cuz they’ll be cheaper, they’ll die in one shot no matter what, they’re just used as fodder

misty heath
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hm, I'm trying to make a team but tbh

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he's just gonna nuke everything and I leak

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if I try to do that :x

radiant dune
#

I don’t got mlynar so ngl I don’t have the best idea of what you can fix without a carbon copy of my build, but the method I found worked the best for me was killing him through his invulnerability when he uses his heater turnoff ability, there’s def some guides online that are better than my strat but I used this team, just turbo buffing degen and she can one cycle harold if she has warf buff and fragile on Harold

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A lot less complicated of a strategy if u just use like suzuran instead of shamare and thrm, I ended up needing one yato s3 before each burst just to guarantee he dies because my fragile was too weak

misty heath
#

okay i know this will sound stupid but

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"kill him when you can't kill him" is what im hearing

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XD

radiant dune
#

Yeah it sounds kinda dumb but when he is in the animation where he goes to turn off heaters he actually doesn’t have the invulnerable phase every 25% health

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It’s weird as hell but u can use it to just avoid his phase 2 if you have the damage

misty heath
#

well I'm not exactly sure how but i did it

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challenge mode seems out of the question

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the "i want to stall you as much as I can until Młynar recharges" team I guess

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yes I do have typhon mlynar yato and massive skill issue

radiant dune
#

If you do wanna try challenge mode you can basically just do this to Harold but instead of the cursed shamare thrm yato cycle just use Suzu s3 and it’ll kill him (recording is normal but works for challenge mode, never even used a flint)

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Actually if you don’t have warfarin scratch that

misty heath
#

I do but she's not raised :x

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welll well well

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fuck snow :<

narrow patrol
#

Now that I think about it I never employed defenders much during the Harold stage

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By virtue of his absurd stats

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That’s the regular boss fight not the challenge one

narrow patrol
#

You deadass saying as he transitions into p2 you can actually HURT HIM STILL!?

eager vale
#

No

radiant dune
eager vale
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When he casts his snowballs to turn off your heaters, he animation locks and cannot activate his threshold invulns in phase2

fiery marsh
#

Like the only stall that i sawn until now was with a skadi buffed and healed with gladia, skalter s2 and eyja alt s1

noble pewter
#

I stalled with a hoshi shamare 2 healer PtiloThink maybe could put stainless turret for even better

fiery marsh
# misty heath

Meh of you had one more strong dps i guess you could do what i did

radiant dune
narrow patrol
#

Now that I think of it I don’t think actually stalled harlold. Ever

misty heath
#

Does qiubai count?

fiery marsh
misty heath
#

In normal stages I just made sure I can cover all of the heaters and lots of heals but it doesn't work for me with ex

radiant dune
fiery marsh
#

Didnt say its wrong tho, just that it isnt the optimal one

radiant dune
#

having an "intended solution" is basically against arknights level design philosophy unless theres an exploit ignoring a map feature

fiery marsh
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In my concept takes the boss design: I say harold isnt supposed to be stalled because he counters stall with a high meele atk

fiery marsh
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Even frostnova winter's scar

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You arent supposed to block her, because she can just retreat your op

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Ssme with emperors blade

radiant dune
fiery marsh
radiant dune
#

well yeah there are easier ways but there isn't such thing as an optimal solution though in 99% of cases

fiery marsh
#

Just to add: and i say it isnt optimal because it demands more "manpower" to be made. Like to stall harold you would need at least 3 ops, one strong blocker and 2 strong healers. If you choose to set up and cycle bursts 2 strong dps do most of the job plus one like yato alter that is doing multiple things in the same map

radiant dune
fiery marsh
fiery marsh
fiery marsh
radiant dune
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i mean thats like saying stalling carts in cc was suboptimal, they dealt a shit ton of damage, enough to kill basically anything other than hoshi, but still got stalled and helped in 620 clears

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whatever people use to clear doesn't really matter, theres no such thing as a wrong solution

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you can say something is easier than other things for sure, I'd argue that my strat for this event's final stage was pretty easy, but other people won't be able to run it just like I wasn't able to run mlynar, they both worked out just the same

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its like saying low rarity operator clears are suboptimal because you could just use higher rarities, yeah it'll make it easier, but for some people they have limited rosters and that clear is something feasible for them that otherwise wouldn't be

fiery marsh
#

Low rarity clears are suboptimal. The concept of optimal is the easiest/more efficient way of doing something. People do low rariry clears because it is their only option or they like the challange.

fiery marsh
steep coral
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Fak how i can kill this boss he so stronger

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Any strat still failed

noble pewter
steep coral
#

My ptil still e1 lvl 70

fiery marsh
#

Nightgale + perfurmer worked for me

steep coral
fiery marsh
#

Yes

steep coral
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No wonder meh

fiery marsh
#

But the top lane was blocked by saria s1 out of range of the medics

steep coral
#

My thorn die near torche

radiant dune
#

im ngl the mlynar stall with executors, as much as you might wanna say is suboptimal, will work here

radiant dune
#

no like executors, gravels, red, etc

fiery marsh
steep coral
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Also i dont have goldenglow that dog

radiant dune
#

you dont need gg for the stall strat

steep coral
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Yato alter will be best option

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For torch fuel

radiant dune
#

basically you just keep harold in range of mlynar while he is on skill by pushing him back with the fast redploys then let him through once it's over so he doesn't block harold, then repeat once he comes back

steep coral
#

He phase 2 really hurt

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Hoshiguma no longed can hold

radiant dune
#

it does, basically need to keep every furnace on which sucks, but you shouldn't need to actually block harold with hoshi

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placing her on the top furnace should be fine

steep coral
noble pewter
steep coral
radiant dune
steep coral
#

Shamare dont have

tidal sedge
#

how can i do rs ex 8 cm

noble pewter
steep coral
radiant dune
#

main idea for this is literally just once harold is in that d9 tile, click mlynar ability, spam frd into it to stall him, then once mlynar skill is over let him through

noble pewter
# steep coral

Weird how come I don't see nightingale here or am I blind n u have her in ur run with mlynar @.@

steep coral
#

Old photo

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I have degenbrench+ng that only

noble pewter
#

N also a silence e2 @.@

radiant dune
#

idk if you have a therapist op but I just used her cuz she could heal mlynar and survive harold's attack, idk if honeyberry will work there but I assumed you would have had her for base :/

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you might be able to get away with something else there but harold will target whatver you put there so it's gotta be tanky enough to survive him or be able to heal up enough

steep coral
radiant dune
# steep coral Whisperain?

that might work? not sure tbh because purestream s1 was really useful for the burst but if you already have whisperain built might as well give it a shot

radiant dune
#

Oh yeah you gotta kill his first phase like, as he spawns, phase 2 dps phase should be starting the first time he comes up those stairs :/

steep coral
#

Im really doomed up

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Cant beat on mode challenge

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Im spent 3 ori prime for this stage

eager vale
spark sinew
#

why

tall cairn
eager vale
#

Pls don't force it if you really can't right now. Just wait for the eventual rerun if you really care about the medal/completion

tidal sedge
tidal sedge
smoky halo
tidal sedge
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u know...

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i use the stall strat

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myrtle still stalling

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but

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they still going

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i can do nothing

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nm work norrmal

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cm work abnormal

smoky halo
#

i think u need to kill the boss phase 1

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before the last phase 1 enemy spawns

tidal sedge
#

of course

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i did

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ugh i hate the stage

vocal leaf
#

i did it, maleknights clear in cm Bnuuy

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i could’ve keep thorns alive but i activated gnosis skill too late and he died SkadiDaijoubu

vernal lion
#

saria tanking harold is kinda nut lol

glass monolith
#

DR stacking DIE

craggy ether
#

what operator is good for MN-EX-5 texalter helps out a lot but not enough

somber falcon
#

just take the gramophones TinaSleep

craggy ether
#

i did, but i get clapped on the last few guys

somber falcon
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you have degen

craggy ether
#

ill take mlynar and see whether i cook

somber falcon
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she claps on them

craggy ether
somber stone
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Why you doing mn tho

craggy ether
#

op

somber stone
#

Real

noble pewter
craggy ether
#

arent those guys very immune to arts? but ill try that yea

somber falcon
#

go stun them then with the claymore
it lasts for like 30s iirc

noble pewter
#

Tanky n expendable bodies RosThink base atk phy, s3 give arts dot n more atk def stats, combine 2 into 1 for more def stat but become arts dmg

craggy ether
#

mlynar cleared them lol

peak cloak
#

@hoary oasis still trying rs 7 e1 only?

hoary oasis
#

too hard

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i need to get click to e2 so i get e2 supports

spark sinew
#

e0 clear is 6 ops

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what are you struggling with

hoary oasis
#

rs-7

spark sinew
#

yeah i meant what part exactly

#
  • the strat/operators would help, if you care to link to the message/repost
hoary oasis
peak cloak
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@hoary oasis btw, yesterday i pinged u with a message in #help , did u read that?

hoary oasis
spark sinew
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does reed2 cycle

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i would cut useless pioneer for a gravel

peak cloak
spark sinew
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question

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since i started with a verb

peak cloak
#

reed alter e1 does not work as i did try that yesterday

hoary oasis
spark sinew
#

e1 record has her, but it also uses other ops

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i figured the cycle should be good enough

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cause i know e2 degen cycles almost perfectly, and she's what, 34 downtime

peak cloak
#

this person does not own anyone at e2, even degen

spark sinew
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it was a cycle comparison

peak cloak
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that's why rs 7 is so hard for him and i malded 60 practices plans in 2 days but still didnt make it and i burned holy fcking 300k lmd and 400-500 exp books

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same situation, e1

glass monolith
#

Frostthrowers are ASS

peak cloak
#

i evem wrote strat to my word file but the dmg is not enough to finish

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the best try i made was with Kaltsit

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finished stages but leak 2

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that's when i tried very hard to optimize deployment timing and skill activation timming to not only Kaltsit but a whole team.

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i think that Kal strat would work for him because i tried with a 3* squad with the only exceptions are purestream and kaltsit herself

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basically worse than his current squad

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another kinda success run was with Yato alter

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but heavy leaking at the end, like 4-5 leaks

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wait hmm,

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why i did not try our balans

eager vale
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im ngl, at e1, their current set up focuses too much on ST dps

peak cloak
#

yes, same thoughts

eager vale
#

only lava + degen dealing aoe. lava isnt even getting deployed

#

if those snipers were lava + maybe pudding, better chances

peak cloak
#

i'd add pinecorn with at least e1 and s1 too

eager vale
peak cloak
#

pudding is doing very well here i agree

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rs 7 at least

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looks, like u wrote

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this stage require aoe or very strong st dmg dealers. which rah does not have at least

#

my normal rs 7 auto farm

narrow pendant
#

Sand

drowsy jewel
#

my brother in christ can you ss atleast

peak cloak
#

no

drowsy jewel
#

interesting answer niko

peak cloak
#

i know right.

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i'm too lazy to open discord on pc

somber falcon
#

that's a nice horizontal lane
would be cool if there's an op that could utilize that PodencoSip

peak cloak
narrow pendant
#

Right, if only there was such an op that had a line as their atk range

drowsy jewel
hoary oasis
#

how about deploying lava instead of plat and kroos

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will it work?

peak cloak
#

i did not try so idk

peak cloak
#

as those 60 practices plans were free

narrow pendant
#

I love this convo on how can we help this guy beat rs7 so he can auto
While im actively autoing the stage with 2 ops
I love
The biggest issue is the beast for him ig?

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Since they are quite strong

peak cloak
#

i'd spend other 30 today for chen strat

hoary oasis
peak cloak
#

chen alter e1 s2

peak cloak
#

Kaltsit carry

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but i dont think u can copy 100% this strat as it's hard as fck in text, probably with video but i dont think we have much time left

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probably u wait a bit for chen alter strat, i'm spending 800 sanities and this is almost over

peak cloak
#

degen s3

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just need a tank guard behind and a medic

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i'd want to try Chongyue too BlitzSmile

somber falcon
#

uh huh
surely they only need to press their degen's s3

#

ezpz

narrow pendant
vernal lion
#

he deals only 33% dmg

whole jolt
#

can anyone tell me how can i clear rx ex 8 cm? is it possible for me to burst down the boss?

narrow pendant
#

With roster like that u can do it easily

whole jolt
#

i have skill issue ._.

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nvm imma just follow kyo and borrow mlynar

spark sinew
#

bursting is a bad idea

glass monolith
#

I bet in 15 minutes he will say Kyo didn't work

spark sinew
#

also module that executor in the future, he's basically a different unit

peak cloak
#

šŸ˜‚ real

foggy lodge
#

Irene and Degen without mod is a crime

fading wagon
#

@drowsy jewel don't wanna get bonked talking about this in the help chat but it was so close lmao maybe my timming needs to be a bit early in activating degen's skill

drowsy jewel
#

it could also be a mod problem, am pretty sure I got mod on

fading wagon
drowsy jewel
#

if you can do mod on your degen too it should work

drowsy jewel
#

I just put it on

fading wagon
#

oh ya i see it

gray stone
fading wagon
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@drowsy jewel yo managed to nuke the boss

peak cloak
#

@hoary oasis chen alter strat works perfectly

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hold on, lets me record a video

drowsy jewel
#

actually insane tho

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Didn't think degen was able to do it but was actually true

fading wagon
vernal lion
# fading wagon <@764991257637945375> don't wanna get bonked talking about this in the help chat...

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fading wagon
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but on normal rs

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i don't have suzurn or other boosters

weak gazelle
#

seeing that video is what my idea to clear it
abusing degen is fun :ya:

hoary oasis
#

Is platinum really not good? I’ve been using her for quite awhile with her s2 and she seems fine on drawn out fights

vivid rain
#
  1. She is outclasses
  2. Marksman as a whole is a dead archetype
civic bear
#

she's just fine its typical 5* marksman pwoerlevel

weak gazelle
#

~50 sec to activate s2
something that you need to consider whenever you want to bring her into battle

#

5* marksman was easy to list it based on usage
krooster > april > the rest of others 5* marksman

civic bear
#

sorry bro but april is a fraudster

weak gazelle
#

i can understand that statement

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lot of the players doesnt bother get her to p5
which is important for her

delicate flare
#

I need help with timing in this setup ._. When do I use the flint for the left side and activate mlynar's skill? Can't seems to get it down and Harold just deactivate two pillars and nuke my ass out of existence TexasDumb

#

Arturia is S3 SL7 and Surtr is S3M3

tall sierra
#

Wow dat harold can one hit kill ground ops when blocked

#

If u have Nightingale, she will really save u from getting hit by multiple nuke

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Otherwise u have to light up as many furnace as u can

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B4 he trigger another nuke

delicate flare
#

I dunno when to time mlynar and the left flint side

#

Tried all sort of stuff and gets nuked

fading wagon
tall sierra
#

Harold cant be blocked his dmg is so huge that he will one hit kill most ground ops xD
Need someone that wont die... like spalter to stall him

fading wagon
delicate flare
peak cloak
#

u are basically done after that moment, lost 3 stoves

delicate flare
#

I need to remove gavi if I want to add in cheeto or kroos for the other pillar

tall sierra
#

There someone cleared with ur comp

peak cloak
#

why dont u lead him to a better place and dmg control your ops

delicate flare
#

not sure what that means honestly

peak cloak
#

read the boss abilities and u will get what i wrote

delicate flare
#

what do you mean by damage control

#

gravel spam?

fading wagon
fading wagon
#

so all heater activated, he does 1 bomb, if 3 heaters activted then he does 2 bombs

tall sierra
#

2 bomb is enough to kill u anyway

fading wagon
#

yeah

delicate flare
#

yeah I can't really manage the timing for all 4 heaters i'll try using kroos to activate the bottom one

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hopefully gavi and sus is enough

fading wagon
#

if you have golden glow you should be able to activate them all ngl

delicate flare
tall sierra
#

GG basically cover 3 furnace with her s2

fading wagon
#

you can clear it with your units

delicate flare
#

yeah just struggling with the timing

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or uhh

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skill issue

fading wagon
tall sierra
#

I think archetto is useless there... she mostly used when there swarm of soft target

peak cloak
#

and u know what

#

using Mlynar, Virtuosa and Surtr strat

#

need

delicate flare
peak cloak
#

Nightingale

delicate flare
#

maybe ill replace her with red or gravel

tall sierra
#

He doesnt have her

delicate flare
#

3 healers TexasBlush

fading wagon
tall sierra
#

Without nightingale it impossible to tank multiple nuke

peak cloak
#

yep

tall sierra
#

Harold will douse random furnace every 4 atk iirc

fading wagon
#

he picks the closest 2

#

well i didn't have good units for this event so i ended up watching kyostin after failing for 2 days straight lmao

peak cloak
#

i'd suggest u picking another easier strat or watch this mlynar virtuosa and surtr strat again carefully and pay more attention to timing.

tidal sedge
#

is this 8 stage very hard

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not EX just normal

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narrow pendant
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No, arguably this rs-ex8 is easier than normal rs8

tidal sedge
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oh weird

peak cloak
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i found both easy, just need to understand the boss mechanic and stoves timing

narrow pendant
#

Something something RS-EX8 harold was nerfed while RS-8 harold was not

sly drift
#

Never heard something get nerfed on ex instead of buffed

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Make no sense

glass monolith
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Ex-8 phase 2 buff is weaker than rs-8

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So he hurts about same instead hurting as average boss on EX

sly drift
#

HG need to explain MudrockNaruhodo

glass monolith
#

They probably did but we couldn't read

sly drift
#

Wher

peak cloak
#

@hoary oasis #strategy message
i did the wet chen strat, try out and lets me know if there are any questions. as i'm going to busy next 2-3h

#

balans carried

tall sierra
#

The only noticeable is that if u try to block harold in ex8, he will literally almost kill any ground ops

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Unlike rs8 where can survive a few hit i think

umbral quarry
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idk what im doing wrong. the 2nd wave of shieldbearers always comes early even tho im leaving the robots alive.

tidal sedge
#

ughhh this 8 stage fucking sucks

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they really just made talulah but even more tedious and dogshit

fading wagon
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if you have screen recording or something it be easier to see em

smoky halo
#

coz if not then the phase 2 enemy spawns

delicate flare
#

aaAAAaaaAA

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i'm finally done

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😭

#

time to do it again in cm mode

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fml

turbid badge
#

m3 shamare was so worth, franka works too but skadi + glaadia is less button clicking :p

~ franka kills faster too but than again she loses all defense

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skadi rock wins again!

celest bluff
#

I would like to gambling in the face of 3 upcoming limited banner

craggy ether
#

do not gamble

vocal leaf
#

for you that banner is basically standard banner SkadiDaijoubu

celest bluff
#

Yeah but at least I won't be spook by another Saga or Siege

narrow pendant
tidal sedge
#

or worse, thorns or flametail

spark sinew
#

i mean, that pool is atrocious

#

you literally have 2 good units there

#

one of which will rerun fsirly soon

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any standard banner with mlynar (or upcoming? JOs) will be better

atomic mural
#

Guys how do I deal with the metal bot thingies in RS-3

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they hard af to kill

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and then they keep leaking and I die

vivid rain
#

Throw blockers at them

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They have virtually no damage

#

Just kill them gradually

atomic mural
delicate flare
vivid rain
#

I used friston 3 and noir corn

delicate flare
#

yeah i think noir cone can do it as well

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no damage

vivid rain
#

Just kidding i used neither of them, they are just HP sacks so aoe damage obliterate them

delicate flare
#

just have a healer watch over your defender

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should be good

vivid rain
#

Or use spot lmfao

delicate flare
#

real

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Or spend 1 dp more for gummy

delicate flare
#

my castermiya do pretty well against them

vivid rain
#

Those mf have no def and no res, just HP

delicate flare
#

lmao

narrow patrol
#

Those toaster bots only have speed goin for em

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And that’s gone too if they’re in a furnace lit area

atomic mural
atomic mural
plush coyote
#

how to beat 7-9?

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dogs kill any of my vanguards before anything else can be done

vivid rain
#

Use noir corne

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or any cheap defender

plush coyote
#

well he costs 12 which is kind of a lot with the super constrained budget

narrow patrol
# atomic mural why

I meant the robot’s movement speed. They slow down significantly in areas highlighted by a furnace

plush coyote
#

guards can handle the dogs but then there's no dp to cover the left side

narrow patrol
#

Hmmm. Furnaces can only be turned on by ops who are inside an activated furnace’s range. Or use a flint if the level provides you (though the usages are limited)

remote perch
#

or kirin
units outside of furnace can still activate it
just very hard

narrow patrol
#

Sometimes a level will have no furnaces on from the get go. You’ll need to use a flint

vivid rain
#

Hmm let me see

smoky halo
#

exu s3 can light up furnance

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from cold spot

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or reed s2 with 2 bodies

somber falcon
narrow patrol
peak cloak
#

so he just skipped tutorial for stove mechanic, how sad it is.
and once again, pls do tutorial stages carefully.

peak cloak
#

place them around stoves ≠ keep stoves working.
for each stove, there will always be a fixed place and it does look different than normal tiles

narrow patrol
plush coyote
#

all the 3 stars maxed out as well

narrow patrol
#

You want a ranged op facing down from the left of the topmost stove

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Like how archetto is positioned. She can light the other two up easily

smoky halo
#

nice flex

peak cloak
#

yea

vivid rain
#

Mf saw ines and said nice flex immediately

smoky halo
#

yes

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idk if they wanted to guide someone they wouldve used fang and kroos

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since its easily copyable

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watch as the other person will say i dont have ines and archetto

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🄱

narrow patrol
#

I guess pincers can be positioned where Ines is? Since
The guys coming from the top spawn aren’t really much trouble

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Kroos and fang/pnicrus work well enough I guess

peak cloak
narrow patrol
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To be fair I did t know what ops
They had til after that test run

smoky halo
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im sure they have fang and kroos

narrow patrol
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Seriously though there’s a tutorial on this. How far along are your ops even

delicate flare
narrow patrol
potent prism
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can anyone give me a team that can help clear most in game content and/or tell me what units i should work on aswell just in case? i took a few month break and im kind of lost in what to do!,

charred raptor
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Myrtle Typhon Lumen should be decent resource investments, I'm fairly new too tho SkadiDaijoubu

narrow patrol
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How far along in the story are you?

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That’s a lot of e2’s

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Seriously tho e2 typhon

vivid rain
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Also put some levels into your e2 please

somber falcon
plush coyote
spark sinew
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that's a lot of e1 max

plush coyote
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yeah i pretty much just bring everyone to e1 max

vivid rain
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? Why is surtr using s2

compact shoal
plush coyote
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o

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i forgor

spark sinew
plush coyote
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no wonder she wasnt annihilating dogs

spark sinew
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especially for like kafka

vivid rain
spark sinew
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that roster in itself is weird as hell

potent prism
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i dont do ccs lol

vivid rain
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Based as shit?!??!

polar crane
spark sinew
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so what did you struggle with

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opening?

atomic mural
potent prism
polar crane
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ya

potent prism
atomic mural
plush coyote
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have a problem? shoot it

atomic mural
plush coyote
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well yeah

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anyways putting ops next to stoves only keeps them on if they're already on

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if they're off it does nothing

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i think

dapper hedge
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Ye the indicator where you can put the operators only show up when the stove is on

somber falcon
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it's always one its' right side

polar crane
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you must have kill the kamikaze guy

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use lappland Okay

narrow pendant
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I mean

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The tutorial explains the heater mechanic well

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But idk, peoppe just ignore it ig

dapper hedge
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Bold of you to think ppl will read

plush coyote
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lol

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lmao even

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s1 obliterates infinite dogs

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dog shredder

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annihilator

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i just like her s2 more BUT it fucking sucks here

vivid rain
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I was thinking about surtr s3 actually but then again the main threat is just dogs so s1 might have more use here

narrow patrol
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Please tell me you have Lappland

atomic mural
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Okay nevermind I beat it

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But now I’m stuck on RS-4

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there’s a specific enemy that keeps nuking my ops

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The one that yeets the giant snowballs

radiant dune
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just place a fast redeploy like gravel on them to get their snowballs out once you see them, they dont get them back

radiant dune
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18 seconds im pretty sure

plush coyote
radiant dune
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theres a case for not promoting jaye for his base skill

plush coyote
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i'm guessing mostly units like gravel and, well kafka

spark sinew
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kafka is very unique in that case

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there's also frostleaf e2 but normal people won't do beyond e1 1 frostleaf

radiant dune
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even gravel wants e1 for her second ability, the shield does help her stall a good amount where her defense boost may not at e1

atomic mural
narrow pendant
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I mean, no?

radiant dune
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they still will throw the snowball

narrow pendant
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The snowball will happen either way

atomic mural
narrow pendant
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Either bait the snowball, or have an op that doesnt die in 1 hit

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They dont do too much dmg, 1.5k~ in ex-cm

atomic mural
radiant dune
narrow pendant
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Uh, deploy her in their range

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They throw the ball, and u either let her die(if she seriously dies in 1 hit) or retreat her right after

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So u get back some dp

glass monolith
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Or retreat while snowball in mid air (not during toss animation, they cancel it if target disappear)

atomic mural
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My rock is level one

radiant dune
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level one is fine