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Yep but I need heals š
Let me just get Map.Arknights
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I think RS-8 auto stable be damn
@long lotus I think this is the layout
Before placing Degen place Myrtle first then retreat after getting Dp
my perfumer is e2 so i'm not sure how applicable she can be for healing
on the flipside i never needed to use her skill
Who is the op below Lappland can't see due to enemies
degenbrecher
Ic
i just noticed that because i got an e2 perfumer i borrowed an e2 degen instead
:icant:
Lmao
https://krooster.com/u/Yujiko
Is there a good strategy that I can do with my current squad for water and fire union?
I used Degenbreacher starter and going for Izumik, but the exploding slugs gave me problems, the bosses were terrifying
zzzz why cant we just unlevel the operators for this kind of thing
maybe i can do this without degen
let me check
Idk what's happening but there is a stupid variable that ruining my auto even though I already cleared rs8
Well it is AK. when it breaks make new one
Amount of reasons something break can go so wild that i gave up trying to figure it out
Lin S2 has an actual use case 
what exactly is she doing there
shield
Lin with module and NG res buff tanked all BS i assume
pretty much
Which doesn't explain why everything else is alive
i mean the squishy ranged ops live bc of lin and the others shrugged it off with NG ig
oh i didn't read S2 part
anyone help me with 2-10?
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post your squad
I only start using Myrtle after chapter 8
Worked, ty 
you done?
not yet, I play with lv1 unit
wouldn't you testing it not be accurate since you got higher levelled stuff?
I want to try lv1 unit so you can easily copy it
but it kinda hard so I build everyone to lv20
last try I promise
Arknights definitely can do wonder with a sandbox mode
I have video from forever ago with e1 1 units 
#strategy message
Ok
cant you borrow a kal s2
can you just tell me what units are good for the stage
oh you can set your units to levels
my messages aren't loading bruh
i think it would make whole thing easier
oh yeah right
try borrow kalstit, she will most likely have s1 but you can do it with that
if you roll enough you might find kal s2
if you cant be bothered though s1 might be enough
i used ling s2 for this stage but might be a bit complicated to you
Issue is friend support downgrades S3 to S1, and like who on Earth has it on S2 
kal s2 is nnot that uncommon
its a good skill after all
easier than finding a degen s2 for this matter
Not impossible but like i hit 15 minute per refresh or something hunting for S3 Ifrit once
-60 attack speed in CC7 WAS BAD TOO 
God praise Heavyrain S2 was countering that shit, otherwise it would be cringe missing challenge #8 on CC
No problem
Any tip to improve this?
where exactly is is going wrong?
I mean positioning or swapping somethingā¦.
Iām too far from completing , my ops die⦠maybe eifja and perfumer are not enough?
I mean I can't suggest improvements if I don't even know if it works yet or not 
or at the very least know what causes your ops to die
if it's boss nuke, just be careful with bursting him
I canāt kill boss on first loop so the next one he come at topā¦. And then I need to use degen + mylnar to clear so mylnar blocks him and he insta shot me
I completed last 3 or 4 events but I think maybe I should wait till rerun and have better ops this time
I focused on killing Harold with Horn, Mlynar for the other mobs
Where do you place horn? Also with S2?
where your degen is with s3
s2 works too but I preferred s3's ability to cancel without bursting
I will try tomorrow with horn and see if I have more luck this timeā¦. But horn will be blocking a lot instead of shooting
i told u not to active the stoves too early, aciddrop on kroos/click position if thing isnt working, i've noted u that, just kill them one by one.
as u dont even have degen s3 so dont screw up yourself by active stoves too early.
I had a medic defender to do most of the blocking
I guess itās skill problem because wen you see how easy some YouTubers can complete using low level ops š
Mlynar face up to avoid doing too much dmg to boss
How many loops do Harold before evolving?
phase 2 was activated on the first go around from right
I donāt think I can kill him in the first go then
I did it easily with Suzu and Horn
My horn just have s1m3ā¦. Also where do you place suzu?
what's your borrow
bottom right heater
it's eyja isn't it....
Yesā¦. I only have perfumer and silence as healers
But I find typhon very useful⦠maybe I should try S3
Borrow a warfarin and you can probably one cycle Harold with suzu degen bursting him
I was able to one shot him with a cursed warf degen shamare and thrm ex combo

wait whatās aciddrop?
the name of an operator
i borrow him?
send me your ops again
Damn your medic defender survived blocking harold?
Why not put mylnar at degen position face down, n hoshi at mlynar position, just block boss n activate mlynar after he do turn off heater skill n u have turned back on, kill slowly at that position, add more healer if hoshi can't tank, use fast redeploy like ines etc to kill incoming threats like invis sniper, flamethrower n snowball
(you probably don't even need shelter but just 2 good medics, mine had ng+eyja, and probably died from the heater turning off)
Actually Mod Y Saria might be able to tank him with full stacks
By tank I mean survive a hit in phase 1 with like 5% hp

Shelter is calc after defense reduction right?
Saria should be taking around 2975 damage E2 90 mod Y without any stacks
Yeah she actually tanks harold better than Cuora
Phase 1 at least
it's basically impossible to have 0 stacks isn't it
Actually she can also tank phase 2 with some stacks
Mod Y for healing defenders is broken
i just told told that
I should have thought of that
Would have made my run a lot easier instead of coping Cuora Salter and reedalter
hoshi/nian should also be better than cuora
I kinda lost trust in healing defenders ever since Cliff shredded anything that didnt have more than 1500 natural def with some debuff stacks
Nothing beats tanking physical when it comes to them
I think bubble might die to harold offskill
i disagree!
Nothing is a shitty tank
Bubble atk debuff lasts 5 seconds, Harold's interval might make it tricky for her to survive
I mean, E2 50 Cuora Mod X level 3 is already getting oneshotted without any external help offskill
These are not normal numbers we are dealing with anymore
you're no fun
but it's also weird as if we're talking past each other
Bubble would be better against bosses with faster intervals like steam knight and Zaaro though
Even Cliff
Cliff cant do anything against a bubble
cliff was easy to deal with due to him not advancing on tactician pets or dolls
and then you could just use ethan to have basically perma vent uptime
His phase 2 still destroys defenders even in vent with enough debuff stacks
so you just use dollkeepers
That's where Bubble's atk debuff lets her last longer than other low rarity defenders
Harold is like the only boss where Cuora actually performs better than Bubble
Which is pretty sad
why is that sad
Unless Harold's interval is lower than 5 secs in which case Cuora loses again
Mudrock + mr nothing can permastall harold 
i mean mud+ling duo clear the stage
in both s2 and s3
idk about using Nothing for that
B-but why would you permastall Harold.
Can't stop ling from being ling
and he dies regardless during snowstorm
It's funny

spalter kinda dies
I swear to god they just increase the chance to drop a tag after the update
She was the one i used for stalling, she survives a hit, combined it with ng and she stalled quite well
And when she was killed, he was slow so by the time she revived, he was still on her tile and that pushed harold back to the front of her tile
And that repeated until harold died
Worth mod 3?
not rly... mod1 is fine
asking it then the answer is simply no
Arturia if she counts
Oh, also degen tremble rng abuse
viable placement? lapp and degen, two those are just defenders
Is that 3 Vanguard
wat
3 F
??? š¢
I think it's 2 defender
yea
Def for defender
Should have just drawn a shield symbol like the in game class symbol

Just use this
Is your lapp e2
yea
This is what I used last year
Lapp facing up so she can silence top lane
Last year I must be smoking some heavy shit to use Surtr s2
I guess what need to do is get 300 dp
Retreat flag
Then use Caster to kill the guy in bottom and top box
the random place where steward shiness 
I remember using him to deal with the guy that stands on the top left originum tile because of the talent targetting
Amiya pog, what exu is doing right here
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who needs silence when you have someone to block the spread
also are you using weedy there to push the enemy back into the red box so it doesn't drop nethersea?
can't even remember if any spawn from there
I still find it hilarious that you can abuse the fact enemies can't spawn nethersea on certain tiles to stop them from dropping any
Top box spawn normal spread on death dudes. I assume by old you mean bubble dudes? those come from ladder i think. And ladder is one of no spread spawn tiles
Hmm
Typhon can pretty much solo dps the stage if you give her time. I'd have Gummy hold rightmost heater. Put Degen in front of Typhon. Lapp above Degen.
I feel like i lack means to sustain the heaters
Er wait
Lack of ranged
Ops and all
Degen below Typhon
I also need 1 free slot to bait the snowballs
Use any robots you may have for that
Unless you suggest thereās anyone I should replace
I usually use gravel
Iām referring to the Victorian snowball throwers
Not Haroldās global fuck you nume
I know
Thing is robots take too long to redeploy
Snowballs aren't really an issue for ground ops
They're probably killing Perf
Just don't put ranged ops in their cardinal tiles
maybe remove cuora from squad? dont know what she really do here
Whoād I replace cuora with?
more frd to bait snowball, idk
Iām thinking if I should e2 my
Medics for the added bulk too
That way the snowballs would see Mlynar first
dont think this stage have much phys damage, and e1 cuora wont be able to tank harold anyway
so most of the threats are really just the art snow balls, the canister guys and harold attacks
Maybe try something like this
If bottom heater goes out, Degen s3 to take it back
Actually, hmm.
have you tried a GG s2 borrow? (or if you have her)
her range covers the top and bottom heaters, which will free up archetto's slot for a 3rd healer maybe
you're still getting blasted even with 4 heaters on?
Harold is probably popping global attack when heaters are on cd after shut off
Burst him down after he turns off your heaters (and you are in the process of turning them on)
I think I agree. Consistent dps like Typhon might be a problem. She might be making Harold hit hp thresholds when heaters are down.
You'll have to work around that or use more controlled dps methods
Hmm.
oh, no wonder you're getting blasted. you're rushing phase2 with uncle lol
I'm just shooting ideas tbh
oh wait, you're not the guy asking, my b
My own strat was let Typhon work down everything and pop Eyja alter s3 and Nightingale s3 to ignore global attack
honestly, same. but then i learned harold animation locks, so i had fun bursting him down with Degen (+buffs) 
oh?
Gravel came in clutch
nice job 
Took a global and as Harold made his way to the end gravel stalled him long enough for degen to murk him
Think I took two Globalās at once
That was painful
Now do it 2 more time, on EX-8 and EX-8 CM 
And don't forget to light all 5 ovens in EX-8 for medal
How did ya kill him in going crazy
By depleting his hp to 0 twice
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I'm looking for some help on RS-8
I managed to get Harold hp bar 1 down at 20/28 enemies remaining burning everything, but then his phase change explosion messed up my melee backline
Should I be trying to break his first phase bar without clustering my units?
The problem is that I mostly got through the period before he approached by running a defensive perimeter around Silverash and burning truesilver. I'm not sure Monster and Mudrock could hold the sides without his normal DPS even aside from truesilver.
Why wouldn't monster and mud be able to hold lanes? E1?
Mud E2, Monster E1
What are your other ops?
Ok i can see the problem
You'll also be hard pressed to tank his p2
Maybe try mud s3 to slow him down a bit on p1?
Also bring another medic if you can
Don't really have anything good in my barracks for that
How far are you from e2 mlynar? That probably will make it a lot easier for you. Also, i agree with bringing more medics. At least 2 (kal dont count xd)
The problem is the chips
I've got the rest
Oh wait I have enough supporter chips to trade in, yeah I'll E2 him real quick
It's too late, the deed is done

I don't really have much levelled for medics
And the Mlynar E2 did drain basically all my funds to level one up
Kal is "medic" 
you can probably just cope with kal then, just dont deploy monsta 
So should I run one of the less levelled ones or just go in with 1.5 medics?
Unfortunate ng shits on this boss
Her s2 can last 3 nukes for me
i guess go with the latter first, just keep the heaters in check
At this point my brain is fried on these
What support unit would be best for me to take so I can win and see the story?
Idk i saw a lot of people use ptilopsis she's good
Why would he lvl ptilo if he has ng 
If he has who
nightingale (ng)
She's slow asf
try golden glow s2/s3? she can keep heaters in check for you
The only good thing ab her is the little thing she got to summon to be a sacrifice and her halloween OUTIFT
although your original set up felt kinda sus since you're letting the canister guys in
Do you like pressing buttons 23% earlier? I do
NG doesnt replace ptilos usage at all
But fwiw he shouldnt be leveling ptilo anytime soon so it doesnt really matter
The main thing with this boss is you want to keep the heaters on obviously
At this point the big problem with my setup is that when P2 hits I can hold the line for a good while but the big burst move kills 7 units in one go even if I scatter them
So keep ops in each heater zone that can shoot other heaters
scattering them wont help much, the main mechanic is the heaters
The more heaters that are unlit, the more dmg big burst moves
U need to keep like 4-5 heaters on when he does burst move
for every heater you have turned off, you eat 1 more snowball nuke from the boss when it hits a threshold (75, 50, 25% hp)
and that's on top of the stats he gains (i think?)
or DR specifically
So yeah, Goldenglow is probably a good choice then
Anything that lets me manage left side heaters
Its probably not necessary to keep left heater on with ur team
move your set up forward on the top side so jet canisters dont nuke 2 of your heaters
they sent an image previously here ^, i'm just assuming they're still running the same set up
Yeah I shifted that let me show my setup
No, the good thong about her is giving everyone almost 50% arts dmg resist
And harolds nuke and ranged atks are arts
So

Her summons are awesome tho
Is kal facing down
Yeah
Honestly it's a bit awkward since I need someone to keep heater on and if I don't make it SA I do bleed Mud side in P1
But yeah
Where is mlynar going
Mlynar and mud should be fine for bottom lane
Throw a VG on that rightmost tile and keep them there
There are better uses for SA
If I keep a vanguard in final comp that would mean removing NG since I currently use Gladia to tank snowballs
(She gets two shot by them which is more than most of my other disposable units)
You shouldnt need to tank 2 snowballs
Is what weāre saying
Base nuke from boss is 1 snowball
Every unlit heater = another snowball
Weāre moving ur comp to the left in order to keep more heaters on
Id even put like a ranged unit above kal to be able to hit middle heater from top
No I mean the snowball units not Harold
FRD?
That's fair, I've got Red kinda levelled
doesnt really have to be levelled. they're just gonna be deployed to die for the snowballs from the bottom lane
Well they have to be able to tank at least one
That's the reason I like Gladia for it
nah, you deploy in the middle of the 2 guys, they throw at the same time
Bisa
Bapa
guys any help on how do i clear rs-ex-8, ik it's a skill issue on my part but here are my units
how do I clear 10-11 with this squad? can't really borrow anyone since i need to auto it for blue rocks 
the bottom lane has been my main issue so far
try something like this
block the chain casters so they get killed by virtuosa
thanks!
you can use surtr once saria dies
if you kill them theres no ranged pressure to virtuosa
but i was able to just surtr it in the end 

luckiest clear ever
surtr and virtuosa solve this stage mainly
I couldn't surtr that stage
yes
i've heard saria w/ module can handle the artillery but I'm too broke to figure that out
virtuosa body switching seems to work flawlessly
she will kill all the slugs just by existing thanks to talent
when it gets overwhelming you press s3
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im gonna give this a try
thanks!
probably just gonna bring a ton other random fodder defenders
yeah, keeping things in place will work well
just be careful that they don't get hit by artilery
ok wtf that worked extremely well
now i feel dumb for spending 1 hour at it
thanks man
mfw everything just dies
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Only 1 hour? My plank for feeling dump in this game is much higher 
the rough idea is simple for rosters that lack goldenglow. you basically want to keep the heaters lit during the wind up of his invincibility attack. the rest of him is pretty easy...
or just borrow goldenglow
yeah i didn't borrow golden glow but after like 30 tries or so i somehow manged to clear it with mlynar
30 tries? congrats on the clear though
yeah lol
i dont think i've ever gone into the double digits on any event stages (except farming)
so i'm finally done with the event got all badges
Im stuck on 4-10, any suggestions?
Idk how useful itāll be but yato alter s2 does annihilate that boss, might take a few more cycles at e1 though
hello rs-ex-8 is driving me crazy help
my tank selection for stalling is uhh, uhhhhhhh
I don't really know if there's anyone that can really survive him
Depends on ur roster but itās entirely possible to not ever need to block harold
is there a tool that lets me automatically share my roster? sending screenshots doesn't feel optimal lol
dont want to spam
Aside from Krooster not that Iām aware of
Ngl Iāve only tried two ways of beating harold which focused either on mlynar or degen, ya got either of them? Iām not the best at strats but I can try to help anyways til someone smarter comes around
Each Mylar ability can take out half of his health, so the strat I used for mlynar was stall him in range by spamming frds, then once his skill runs out let harold through and recharge it
Blocking harold is generally just a lot more effort than itās worth because 4k damage hurts, main focus should be on keeping lighters lit
frds?
yeah his dmg is doing a lot..
Gravel, red, waii fu, etc
They donāt gotta be high level, just to tank his melee and push him back a bit while heās inside mlynar schwing range
Being uninvested makes em even better cuz theyāll be cheaper, theyāll die in one shot no matter what, theyāre just used as fodder
hm, I'm trying to make a team but tbh
he's just gonna nuke everything and I leak
if I try to do that :x
I donāt got mlynar so ngl I donāt have the best idea of what you can fix without a carbon copy of my build, but the method I found worked the best for me was killing him through his invulnerability when he uses his heater turnoff ability, thereās def some guides online that are better than my strat but I used this team, just turbo buffing degen and she can one cycle harold if she has warf buff and fragile on Harold
A lot less complicated of a strategy if u just use like suzuran instead of shamare and thrm, I ended up needing one yato s3 before each burst just to guarantee he dies because my fragile was too weak
okay i know this will sound stupid but
"kill him when you can't kill him" is what im hearing
XD
Yeah it sounds kinda dumb but when he is in the animation where he goes to turn off heaters he actually doesnāt have the invulnerable phase every 25% health
Itās weird as hell but u can use it to just avoid his phase 2 if you have the damage
well I'm not exactly sure how but i did it
challenge mode seems out of the question
the "i want to stall you as much as I can until MÅynar recharges" team I guess
yes I do have typhon mlynar yato and massive skill issue
If you do wanna try challenge mode you can basically just do this to Harold but instead of the cursed shamare thrm yato cycle just use Suzu s3 and itāll kill him (recording is normal but works for challenge mode, never even used a flint)
Actually if you donāt have warfarin scratch that
Now that I think about it I never employed defenders much during the Harold stage
By virtue of his absurd stats
Thatās the regular boss fight not the challenge one
Wait
You deadass saying as he transitions into p2 you can actually HURT HIM STILL!?
No
Nah like, look at the vid I sent, no invincibility or snowball attack if you kill him in a specific animation in phase 2
When he casts his snowballs to turn off your heaters, he animation locks and cannot activate his threshold invulns in phase2
You dont want to stall him
Like the only stall that i sawn until now was with a skadi buffed and healed with gladia, skalter s2 and eyja alt s1
I stalled with a hoshi shamare 2 healer
maybe could put stainless turret for even better
Meh of you had one more strong dps i guess you could do what i did
you can stall him with just executors and it's pretty good with mlynar
Now that I think of it I donāt think actually stalled harlold. Ever
Does qiubai count?
You can but isnt the supposed solution
In normal stages I just made sure I can cover all of the heaters and lots of heals but it doesn't work for me with ex
there aren't really any correct solutions so I'd say its just as viable
Didnt say its wrong tho, just that it isnt the optimal one
well optimal is also a pretty vague term, theres definitely more than one standard clear
having an "intended solution" is basically against arknights level design philosophy unless theres an exploit ignoring a map feature
In my concept takes the boss design: I say harold isnt supposed to be stalled because he counters stall with a high meele atk
They do it a lot tho
Even frostnova winter's scar
You arent supposed to block her, because she can just retreat your op
Ssme with emperors blade
if he wasn't supposed to be stalled I'd say they'd make him unblockable, if they didn't think you should be able to find a solution with stalling just making him deal more damage than usual would be bad design
Again, you are able, but isnt the optimal choice. Imo at least, by the arguments that i said
well yeah there are easier ways but there isn't such thing as an optimal solution though in 99% of cases
Just to add: and i say it isnt optimal because it demands more "manpower" to be made. Like to stall harold you would need at least 3 ops, one strong blocker and 2 strong healers. If you choose to set up and cycle bursts 2 strong dps do most of the job plus one like yato alter that is doing multiple things in the same map
i mean yeah but also for some people they wont have those 2 strong dps for example, having a strong blocker is a pretty easy thing to fulfil
And if one of the dps is mylnar, with his big range he is too covering more of the map than just harold
Isnt like ex8 events are made thinking on new players, if wasnt for guides like kyo's we wouldnt see any significant amount of new players getting there
And isnt like a new player can afford borrowing for stalling when he dont have enough dps to clear the map, remains better looking for a burst option because of the "manpower" that i said
i mean thats like saying stalling carts in cc was suboptimal, they dealt a shit ton of damage, enough to kill basically anything other than hoshi, but still got stalled and helped in 620 clears
whatever people use to clear doesn't really matter, theres no such thing as a wrong solution
you can say something is easier than other things for sure, I'd argue that my strat for this event's final stage was pretty easy, but other people won't be able to run it just like I wasn't able to run mlynar, they both worked out just the same
its like saying low rarity operator clears are suboptimal because you could just use higher rarities, yeah it'll make it easier, but for some people they have limited rosters and that clear is something feasible for them that otherwise wouldn't be
Low rarity clears are suboptimal. The concept of optimal is the easiest/more efficient way of doing something. People do low rariry clears because it is their only option or they like the challange.
Ah sorry just read it. Maybe? The way you are doing you can cover the bottom right heater?
Why honey berry when u can use any other better healer 
I dont have alter eyjaf
What healer should i bring
My ptil still e1 lvl 70
Nightgale + perfurmer worked for me
E2?
Yes
No wonder meh
But the top lane was blocked by saria s1 out of range of the medics
My thorn die near torche
im ngl the mlynar stall with executors, as much as you might wanna say is suboptimal, will work here
I dont have executor
no like executors, gravels, red, etc
I think executors is the class
Also i dont have goldenglow that dog
you dont need gg for the stall strat
Hmm i have but
Yato alter will be best option
For torch fuel
basically you just keep harold in range of mlynar while he is on skill by pushing him back with the fast redploys then let him through once it's over so he doesn't block harold, then repeat once he comes back
it does, basically need to keep every furnace on which sucks, but you shouldn't need to actually block harold with hoshi
placing her on the top furnace should be fine
Give me strat map using arknight simulator
Do u have stainless turret or shamare?
Stainless e1
ngl ive never done that, idek where i can
Shamare dont have
how can i do rs ex 8 cm
What's ur roster again?
main idea for this is literally just once harold is in that d9 tile, click mlynar ability, spam frd into it to stall him, then once mlynar skill is over let him through
Weird how come I don't see nightingale here or am I blind n u have her in ur run with mlynar @.@
Borrow....
N also a silence e2 @.@
Fak puresteam
idk if you have a therapist op but I just used her cuz she could heal mlynar and survive harold's attack, idk if honeyberry will work there but I assumed you would have had her for base :/
you might be able to get away with something else there but harold will target whatver you put there so it's gotta be tanky enough to survive him or be able to heal up enough
Whisperain?
That still new
that might work? not sure tbh because purestream s1 was really useful for the burst but if you already have whisperain built might as well give it a shot
Your strat
After phase 2

Oh yeah you gotta kill his first phase like, as he spawns, phase 2 dps phase should be starting the first time he comes up those stairs :/
Im really doomed up
Cant beat on mode challenge
Im spent 3 ori prime for this stage

why

Pls don't force it if you really can't right now. Just wait for the eventual rerun if you really care about the medal/completion
guys
cant u just copy guide
u know...
i use the stall strat
myrtle still stalling
but
they still going
i can do nothing
nm work norrmal
cm work abnormal

i did it, maleknights clear in cm 
i couldāve keep thorns alive but i activated gnosis skill too late and he died 
saria tanking harold is kinda nut lol
DR stacking 
what operator is good for MN-EX-5 texalter helps out a lot but not enough
just take the gramophones 
i did, but i get clapped on the last few guys
you have degen
ill take mlynar and see whether i cook
she claps on them
their whole purpose is that they have more lives D:
Why you doing mn tho
op
Real
What if ling then dragon s3 
arent those guys very immune to arts? but ill try that yea
go stun them then with the claymore
it lasts for like 30s iirc
Tanky n expendable bodies
base atk phy, s3 give arts dot n more atk def stats, combine 2 into 1 for more def stat but become arts dmg
mlynar cleared them lol
@hoary oasis still trying rs 7 e1 only?
not anymore
too hard
i need to get click to e2 so i get e2 supports
rs-7
yeah i meant what part exactly
- the strat/operators would help, if you care to link to the message/repost
mobs rush -> does not have enough dmg to clear waves, end up losing.
@hoary oasis btw, yesterday i pinged u with a message in #help , did u read that?
yea got mob rushed and my degen and spot + 2 back to back healers couldnt keep up
is that a question or a statement?
reed alter e1 does not work as i did try that yesterday
im kinda confused on when to put click, krooster, and plat
e1 record has her, but it also uses other ops
i figured the cycle should be good enough
cause i know e2 degen cycles almost perfectly, and she's what, 34 downtime
this person does not own anyone at e2, even degen
it was a cycle comparison
that's why rs 7 is so hard for him and i malded 60 practices plans in 2 days but still didnt make it and i burned holy fcking 300k lmd and 400-500 exp books
same situation, e1
Frostthrowers are ASS
i evem wrote strat to my word file but the dmg is not enough to finish
the best try i made was with Kaltsit
finished stages but leak 2
that's when i tried very hard to optimize deployment timing and skill activation timming to not only Kaltsit but a whole team.
i think that Kal strat would work for him because i tried with a 3* squad with the only exceptions are purestream and kaltsit herself
basically worse than his current squad
another kinda success run was with Yato alter
but heavy leaking at the end, like 4-5 leaks
wait hmm,
why i did not try our balans

im ngl, at e1, their current set up focuses too much on ST dps
yes, same thoughts
only lava + degen dealing aoe. lava isnt even getting deployed
if those snipers were lava + maybe pudding, better chances
i'd add pinecorn with at least e1 and s1 too

pudding is doing very well here i agree
rs 7 at least
looks, like u wrote
this stage require aoe or very strong st dmg dealers. which rah does not have at least
my normal rs 7 auto farm
Sand
my brother in christ can you ss atleast
no
interesting answer niko
that's a nice horizontal lane
would be cool if there's an op that could utilize that 
sorry 

wait yk wut? thats a good idea
how about deploying lava instead of plat and kroos
will it work?
i did not try so idk
why sorry though, u do nothing wrong here
as those 60 practices plans were free
I love this convo on how can we help this guy beat rs7 so he can auto
While im actively autoing the stage with 2 ops
I love
The biggest issue is the beast for him ig?
Since they are quite strong
i'd spend other 30 today for chen strat
I mean, I feel like I made you go through the time and effort that yielded close to nothing?
chen alter e1 s2
finished stage but leak 2
Kaltsit carry
but i dont think u can copy 100% this strat as it's hard as fck in text, probably with video but i dont think we have much time left
probably u wait a bit for chen alter strat, i'm spending 800 sanities and this is almost over
u mean the chokepoint near by bluebox?
degen s3
just need a tank guard behind and a medic
i'd want to try Chongyue too 
Id say the line to the left of top right red box instead
can anyone tell me how can i clear rx ex 8 cm? is it possible for me to burst down the boss?
With roster like that u can do it easily
bursting is a bad idea
I bet in 15 minutes he will say Kyo didn't work
also module that executor in the future, he's basically a different unit
š real
Irene and Degen without mod is a crime
Is this doable?
@drowsy jewel don't wanna get bonked talking about this in the help chat but it was so close lmao maybe my timming needs to be a bit early in activating degen's skill
it could also be a mod problem, am pretty sure I got mod on
i don't think you have lol
if you can do mod on your degen too it should work
oh ya i see it

@drowsy jewel yo managed to nuke the boss
he didn't even get to use his nuke skill lmaoo
this btw
https://youtu.be/RcSUNicV0wg
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yeah i pretty much did that
but on normal rs
i don't have suzurn or other boosters
seeing that video is what my idea to clear it
abusing degen is fun :ya:
Is platinum really not good? Iāve been using her for quite awhile with her s2 and she seems fine on drawn out fights
- She is outclasses
- Marksman as a whole is a dead archetype
she's just fine its typical 5* marksman pwoerlevel
~50 sec to activate s2
something that you need to consider whenever you want to bring her into battle
5* marksman was easy to list it based on usage
krooster > april > the rest of others 5* marksman
sorry bro but april is a fraudster
i can understand that statement
lot of the players doesnt bother get her to p5
which is important for her
@hoary oasis https://youtu.be/wHd0T2gu_3k?feature=shared
I need help with timing in this setup ._. When do I use the flint for the left side and activate mlynar's skill? Can't seems to get it down and Harold just deactivate two pillars and nuke my ass out of existence 
Arturia is S3 SL7 and Surtr is S3M3
Wow dat harold can one hit kill ground ops when blocked
If u have Nightingale, she will really save u from getting hit by multiple nuke
Otherwise u have to light up as many furnace as u can
B4 he trigger another nuke
i don't 
yeah that's my problem
I dunno when to time mlynar and the left flint side
Tried all sort of stuff and gets nuked

i'm not an expert with high end stuff like this, but if possible keep a sniper in besides your healer to activate the bottom right heater, and once harold phase 2 walks through the stairs light up the left heater and place a ranged unit there to keep it activated (that will be lit up forever since harold won't be able to extinguish that anymore)
Harold cant be blocked his dmg is so huge that he will one hit kill most ground ops xD
Need someone that wont die... like spalter to stall him
i personally used gravel and yato to keep him at bay while mlynar charges
is e1 max perfumer s1 and sus s2 enough healing wise?
u are basically done after that moment, lost 3 stoves
I need to remove gavi if I want to add in cheeto or kroos for the other pillar
joever
There someone cleared with ur comp
why dont u lead him to a better place and dmg control your ops
not sure what that means honestly
read the boss abilities and u will get what i wrote
yeah i don't get it 
what do you mean by damage control
gravel spam?
considering how you have mountain and and saria at the front, which already have gret tanking capabilties on their own, i think you can live if you changed perfumer with a sniper
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so the boss does a nuker everytime he loses 25% hp, the more heaters deactivated during his ultimate the bombs he does
so all heater activated, he does 1 bomb, if 3 heaters activted then he does 2 bombs
2 bomb is enough to kill u anyway
yeah
yeah I can't really manage the timing for all 4 heaters i'll try using kroos to activate the bottom one
hopefully gavi and sus is enough
if you have golden glow you should be able to activate them all ngl
I started playing a month ago š
GG basically cover 3 furnace with her s2
I started 5 months ago and you have better units than me man š¤£
you can clear it with your units
btw no point using sutrt here since mlynar is enough
I think archetto is useless there... she mostly used when there swarm of soft target
yeah I didn't really adjust my comp for this
Nightingale
maybe ill replace her with red or gravel
He doesnt have her
3 healers 
he is borrowing mlynaar so he can't borrow ng
Without nightingale it impossible to tank multiple nuke
yep
Harold will douse random furnace every 4 atk iirc
not random but the closest
he picks the closest 2
well i didn't have good units for this event so i ended up watching kyostin after failing for 2 days straight lmao
i'd suggest u picking another easier strat or watch this mlynar virtuosa and surtr strat again carefully and pay more attention to timing.
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No, arguably this rs-ex8 is easier than normal rs8
oh weird
i found both easy, just need to understand the boss mechanic and stoves timing
Elaborate 
Something something RS-EX8 harold was nerfed while RS-8 harold was not
Ex-8 phase 2 buff is weaker than rs-8
So he hurts about same instead hurting as average boss on EX
HG need to explain 
They probably did but we couldn't read
Wher
@hoary oasis #strategy message
i did the wet chen strat, try out and lets me know if there are any questions. as i'm going to busy next 2-3h
balans carried
The only noticeable is that if u try to block harold in ex8, he will literally almost kill any ground ops
Unlike rs8 where can survive a few hit i think
idk what im doing wrong. the 2nd wave of shieldbearers always comes early even tho im leaving the robots alive.
ughhh this 8 stage fucking sucks
they really just made talulah but even more tedious and dogshit
you mean for rs-ex-8?
if you have screen recording or something it be easier to see em
in my experience i need to kill phase 1 boss before the last phase 1 enemy spawns
coz if not then the phase 2 enemy spawns
m3 shamare was so worth, franka works too but skadi + glaadia is less button clicking :p
~ franka kills faster too but than again she loses all defense
skadi rock wins again!
do not gamble
for you that banner is basically standard banner 
Yeah but at least I won't be spook by another Saga or Siege
Get spooked by cerne or eune instead
or worse, thorns or flametail
i mean, that pool is atrocious
you literally have 2 good units there
one of which will rerun fsirly soon
any standard banner with mlynar (or upcoming? JOs) will be better
Guys how do I deal with the metal bot thingies in RS-3
they hard af to kill
and then they keep leaking and I die
Is liskarm good enough for that then
my e2 40 cuora was able to stall several them for a good 15 minutes while I fuck harold up in rs ex 8 cm
I used friston 3 and noir corn
Just kidding i used neither of them, they are just HP sacks so aoe damage obliterate them
Or use spot lmfao
do you have any source of arts damage?
my castermiya do pretty well against them
Those mf have no def and no res, just HP
lmao
Those toaster bots only have speed goin for em
And thatās gone too if theyāre in a furnace lit area
Ummm I donāt think so but I have amiya maxed out
why
Okay the problem now is this
I somehow canāt get the furnace started even when I place ops next to them
well he costs 12 which is kind of a lot with the super constrained budget
I meant the robotās movement speed. They slow down significantly in areas highlighted by a furnace
guards can handle the dogs but then there's no dp to cover the left side
Hmmm. Furnaces can only be turned on by ops who are inside an activated furnaceās range. Or use a flint if the level provides you (though the usages are limited)
or kirin
units outside of furnace can still activate it
just very hard
Sometimes a level will have no furnaces on from the get go. Youāll need to use a flint
Hmm let me see
What ops do you have?
What ops do you have? @atomic mural
so he just skipped tutorial for stove mechanic, how sad it is.
and once again, pls do tutorial stages carefully.
the usual EN players
place them around stoves ā keep stoves working.
for each stove, there will always be a fixed place and it does look different than normal tiles
kafka, la pluma, poncirus, saileach, archetto
all the 3 stars maxed out as well
You want a ranged op facing down from the left of the topmost stove
Like how archetto is positioned. She can light the other two up easily
nice flex
yea
Mf saw ines and said nice flex immediately
yes

idk if they wanted to guide someone they wouldve used fang and kroos
since its easily copyable
watch as the other person will say i dont have ines and archetto
š„±
I guess pincers can be positioned where Ines is? Since
The guys coming from the top spawn arenāt really much trouble
Kroos and fang/pnicrus work well enough I guess
u already know why
To be fair I did t know what ops
They had til after that test run
when in doubt, borrow ling

Tyou have a ponicrus and Fang youāll be fine
can anyone give me a team that can help clear most in game content and/or tell me what units i should work on aswell just in case? i took a few month break and im kind of lost in what to do!,
Myrtle Typhon Lumen should be decent resource investments, I'm fairly new too tho 
How far along in the story are you?
Thatās a lot of e2ās
Seriously tho e2 typhon
Also put some levels into your e2 please
If borrowing is fine with you you can take any cost 20 6* guard to open
Otherwise you can open with pluma and noir
12 dp is really not that much
that's a lot of e1 max
yeah i pretty much just bring everyone to e1 max
? Why is surtr using s2
Lin for next ccb, ng s3 is really good qol. And maybe hoshi if u need healable brick
you really shouldn't
no wonder she wasnt annihilating dogs
whuts ccb
especially for like kafka
Next contingency contract
that roster in itself is weird as hell
i dont do ccs lol
Based as shit?!??!

I am putting the ops next to the stoves but idk why theyāre not turning on
me?
ya
7-16
shoot the stoves
They get frozen as soon as they fire one shot
have a problem? shoot it
and then it resets again
well yeah
anyways putting ops next to stoves only keeps them on if they're already on
if they're off it does nothing
i think
Ye the indicator where you can put the operators only show up when the stove is on
it's always one its' right side
I mean
The tutorial explains the heater mechanic well
But idk, peoppe just ignore it ig

Bold of you to think ppl will read
anyways i didn't notice this and it was basically half the problem i think lol
lol
lmao even
s1 obliterates infinite dogs
dog shredder
annihilator
i just like her s2 more BUT it fucking sucks here
I was thinking about surtr s3 actually but then again the main threat is just dogs so s1 might have more use here
Please tell me you have Lappland
Okay nevermind I beat it
But now Iām stuck on RS-4
thereās a specific enemy that keeps nuking my ops
The one that yeets the giant snowballs
just place a fast redeploy like gravel on them to get their snowballs out once you see them, they dont get them back
how fast can gravel redeploy
18 seconds im pretty sure
is there anyone else to specifically avoid getting to e1
theres a case for not promoting jaye for his base skill
i'm guessing mostly units like gravel and, well kafka
kafka is very unique in that case
there's also frostleaf e2 but normal people won't do beyond e1 1 frostleaf
even gravel wants e1 for her second ability, the shield does help her stall a good amount where her defense boost may not at e1
Well can I uh use little gladdy and FEater to yeet them away and lure them away from my ops?
I mean, no?
they still will throw the snowball
The snowball will happen either way
I mean make them throw the snowball at them and not my ops
Either bait the snowball, or have an op that doesnt die in 1 hit
They dont do too much dmg, 1.5k~ in ex-cm
well how do I bait it using gravel then
just place gravel down within their range when they have the snowball up, theyll throw it at her then you can just retreat her or let her die
Uh, deploy her in their range
They throw the ball, and u either let her die(if she seriously dies in 1 hit) or retreat her right after
So u get back some dp
Or retreat while snowball in mid air (not during toss animation, they cancel it if target disappear)
Will I need an upgraded gravel
My rock is level one
level one is fine




