strategy

[glass monolith]

"simple"
Also boss does 3000 damage
Also if he turns of oven next to your healer they froze and you screwed
Also there is phase 2 enemies because why not

[sage lake]

Damn

Im tryna get the furniture rewards but ig j won't be getting them

[glass monolith]

Boss is easy (probably) with proper planning in advance, which I as blind player guideless maidenless do not have

[eager vale]

if you're looking up for stage guides, search with '[stage name] + low end'

or low rarity

[sage lake]

Idk if i have enough materials for the characters tho

[glass monolith]

both will probably bring up some E2 support clear. And Youtube is dogshit at finding stuff lately

[sage lake]

Yeah and i dont have a e2 character yet so idk if i can do it

[eager vale]

event is easy enough that guides only use E2 on the final stage

[sage lake]

U think an e1 thypoon can do enough dmg for the boss?

I can probably stall using enough healers and tanks but my problem is dps

[smoky halo]

you cant stall the boss

he does like 3k+ dmg on phase 2

[eager vale]

no way you're stalling with E1's plus the snowball nukes

[smoky halo]

honestly i would just try to rush e2 a 4star

[sage lake]

Oh yeah the snowballs forgot about them

[smoky halo]

then borrow ling

ling solos rs-8

[civic bear]

you stall phase 1 and then on phase 2 you spam bodies

[sage lake]

Who tho?

[vital arrow]

Cutter

Pinecone

[sage lake]

Im at like the 4th story thingy idk where to get the materials for cutter

[civic bear]

just show ur squad bro

[smoky halo]

manganese is solved by rs-7

[vital arrow]

Long tap the material

It shows where to get them

[smoky halo]

gel is uh

[vital arrow]

Gel is from ch3

[civic bear]

thats not e1 characters

[sage lake]

Old pic

But rn all of them are e1

[civic bear]

id assume theyre all e1 50~ ish by now?

[sage lake]

Ye

I think i need another healer cuz ansel is pretty slow

[civic bear]

you do need more. 1 isnt enough

[vital arrow]

The standard squad uses 2 medics

[civic bear]

2 minimum, 3 ideal in this one

[vital arrow]

Minimum

[sage lake]

I have another healer It's a 4 star i forgot the name

But i haven't built her yet

[vital arrow]

Perfumer

Or myrrh

[sage lake]

Yea perfumer

[vital arrow]

Either is good enough

Just slot 2 in

[civic bear]

something like this

then medic plaster ofc

bring more ground ops

[sage lake]

Who should I kick out of the team for the healer?

[civic bear]

at phase 2 you're gnna do bunch of throwing bodies

[vital arrow]

Melantha

[civic bear]

amiya lava

[vital arrow]

Also bluepoison s2 is ass

Before shes E2

It literally doesnt do anything

[sage lake]

Ohh aight I'll use s1 for now

[civic bear]

bring gravel

[vital arrow]

Pluma wants S1

[civic bear]

i think s2 is fine on this one for better burst

[sage lake]

I haven't leveled her up yet so I'll do it later

[vital arrow]

Depends, just switch if s1 isnt enough

[civic bear]

gravel no need leveled

[sage lake]

She's just gonna be for the snowballs right?

[civic bear]

she straight up just to deploy and die in 1 hit eitherway

[vital arrow]

If you want an easier time just rush e2 cutter or something

[sage lake]

For the support unit who should i try and find?

[vital arrow]

Typhon

[civic bear]

typhon the only e1 carry

[vital arrow]

And bring more blockers

Hoshi will die

[sage lake]

Also what is the "D" here?

[civic bear]

defender

[vital arrow]

Defender

Blocker

[civic bear]

she'll die in phase 2

then you repeatedly deploy blockers

for boss

keeps spamming bodies

[sage lake]

So the strat is just buying time for thypoon to kill the boss?

[vital arrow]

Yes

Youre running e1

You dont have damage

Tank and spank is the only strat you have

[sage lake]

Aight thanks for the help

I'll try it out later

Im gonna build another healer 1st

[civic bear]

do make sure to capture the all fireplace asap when boss takes over (this relevant on p2)

[eager vale]

event is up for like ~9 more days, if its too hard, just come back a few days later

[sage lake]

Also if i get a e2 character which support unit should i pick?

[civic bear]

mlynar

[vital arrow]

Either mlynar or ling

[sage lake]

Aight thanks

[celest bluff]

I give up

Restart

[celest bluff]

Ceobeo mod x better right

[spice mortar]

Help chat question

[deft badger]

use degen, irene, mlynar or executor mid just spam the skills...

on one of that two tiles..

[celest bluff]

I died to early rush

[vocal leaf]

use defenders, you’re supposed to bring a good amount of them

[cosmic thicket]

how many VGs u bringing

[glass monolith]

That one guy in HG who decided to send like 4-6 shield dudes into 2 block dude in first 20 seconds

[turbid badge]

found out i can abuse other levitate sources for chong s2
so i can use s2 chong without having him proq his talent so if a operator has AOE levitate i can just go "stonks damage"
s3 chong exists i know

• dorothy mine under ( really cope ) ik, just something fun

qani s2 works decently well as it also has damage when the skill ends when the enemies drop, was honestly disappointed by ho'olheyak as all are basically ST lol,
s2 just feels annoying to use for only 1 second levitate, weightless module is eyecatching though. ( currently utilizing angelina for that lol )

aroma range feels awkward to utilize
irene, qani are solid, irene s2 lol

also that boy that looks like reg is nice but i'd rather utilize a range slot than melee for levitate
and only 0.5 seconds but yea

anyways another reminder for irene + dorothy tricks lol
another reminder for how bad ho'ol s1 is for actual utility purposes

crit dorothy s1 mine twice does hit hard though

i like how both really like attack buffs cuz big attack scale

skalter

[peak cloak]

teta wall of text

[glass monolith]

I can drop random excel sheet to counter balance the chat if you like

[heavy pelican]

Any tips for this stage? Not sure what to do

[glass monolith]

Place Red in place where she won't get hit by both casters at once

If she dies that fast to single caster, delay deploying till being able to afford medic there and engage enemies circling in middle with Thorns adn other stuff

[heavy pelican]

Nvm I figured it out had to switch placement cuz I was putting thorn top left for no reason when enemies were going bottom right first, it was kinda sketchy tho

[strange hazel]

how does enemy atk interval work? is it 'time between consecutive hits on same target' or 'time between cons. hits overall'

im assuming its the former from my time with big bob and mudrock colossi

[glass monolith]

i think it is time between consecutive start of attack, animation and for ranged travel of projectile is other thing

[strange hazel]

so if i block harold in melee w/ normal yato and she dies (expected) and i deploy gravel on him, will he wait 6 seconds from then to melee gravel?

[glass monolith]

(Damn he attack that slow?) He should, otherwise he would just grind everyone you deploy in second and there would be funny gif of that

[strange hazel]

idk big bob was very different for me

atk interval 6 sec too, i drop fast redeploy spam on him and he mows them down

but i use cuora and he just stops

[glass monolith]

Maybe because we normally play on x2, so 3 second, some delay before we actually deploy, and as i recall big bob has like very fast attack animation followed by not as fast after attack animation

[merry narwhal]

that's a tough one, because he also has a ranged attack which might have a different cooldown, but yes, he should wait 6 seconds until the next melee attack

[strange hazel]

i dont expect ranged to be an issue, just want to help someone set up an infinite stall loop

[merry narwhal]

Mudrock + Mr Nothing tech 🥹

[strange hazel]

doesn't have either (nor any e2 defenders / medics) 😢

kafka sleep would've been so good if he wasn't immune

[merry narwhal]

he's immune to everything but Degen's new debuff (they keep doing shirt like that)

[strange hazel]

yeah because of course he's vulnerable to frighten

doesnt degen just trivialize everything but nuke

[merry narwhal]

Bind also works on virtually all (?) bosses, so maybe there is a way to just rotate bind skills for 100% stall

[spark sinew]

degen doesn't trivialize him

cause it's way easier to just use a defender...

and you don't need a bloody buff army for that

[glass monolith]

I need brain cells to control boss turning off heaters i WANT. In other words it is always not one i want to get turn off

[strange hazel]

doesn't level 1 boss do like 3.6k damage

that's a dead defender offskill no?

[spark sinew]

and in what world degen won't die

[strange hazel]

also fair but tremble means she can solo a phase right

dont have her so just going off feel

by phase i mean 25% of phase2 health

[spark sinew]

the actual scary part is 25% health nuke

not to mention you don't want to proc it multiple times either

[strange hazel]

yeah that's why ive been theorycrafting stall loops

[spark sinew]

tremble also does jack all there tbh

[strange hazel]

if you shuffle bodies, constant freeze is probably less important

[spark sinew]

like she only has 10% to do it with each hit

[strange hazel]

and also so is the nuke

the problem is you need a ton of bodies and some amount of damage

[spark sinew]

you can't really shuffle the bodies

like everyone but mudrock can't solo tank

so if you wipe you probably wipe for good

[strange hazel]

oh i meant like gravel, summons, yato, etc

if everyone's getting 1-2 shot why not get the cheapest options

[glass monolith]

[strange hazel]

i just need some number of operators whose sum of redeploy rates is equal to the boss' attack rate

[glass monolith]

I heard boss has attack speed buff in RS-8 but doesn't in EX-8. Manticore could be fun tool to stall him in RS-8 because he barely walks during ranged attacks

[strange hazel]

wait he gets atkspd buffed?

i never heard about this

or do you mean phase 2 atkspd buff

At Level 0, Harold's ASPD is also increased by 50.
oh i forgot about this, guess it's not 6sec

but it means permastalling him is totally possible in EX somehow lol

[spark sinew]

what's your team again

[celest bluff]

Dorothy buff army can bypass his invulnerability phase

Anything that can deal shitton of damage in a tick (or frame whatever) should be able to bypass it

[strange hazel]

bit late but i'm trying to help someone who's pretty new

i personally just cuora and FRD stalled with purestream s1 / sussuro s2

i don't expect problems with EX boss, but the enemies are probably going to be substantially more annoying

[pallid veldt]

Am i supposed to bait the snowballs w FRD

I feel like i dont have enough dps to kill the big green guys

[cosmic thicket]

probably

[ashen pewter]

Does Ines teams are better now compared to Flagpipe? If yes, what other units should be with her? For stage opening/dp regen?

[somber stone]

Just Ines works

Or like also bring flagpipe

[ashen pewter]

Im thinking of revamping my Blind Team. Like a team I use on any stages first to get a grasp on the stage before changing anything on the lineup.

Maybe I could share my currently Blind Team lineup.

[ashen pewter]

Yeah. Thats what im using actually. But i feel like 3 vanguards is a waste of slot.

[somber stone]

Eh just try some stuff out and take whatever’s comfortable for going blind

[pure pasture]

So on mephisto final boss. Any support op suggestions?

[somber stone]

Which one

5-10 or m8-8

[pure pasture]

M8-8 monster mephisto

[somber stone]

He does dot field when you damage him so healing if you need ig

[pure pasture]

I've got 2 on my squad rn Silence and perfumer. I could add a 3rd ig

[fiery marsh]

Ines alone is fine. Ines + bagpipe allows insta s2 what is pretty good

[spark sinew]

basically, yeah

cut flag

skadi is also ehhhh here

i run something like that, ish

[somber stone]

Gonna add ulpi?

[spark sinew]

might cut AH and run saria+shu instead

before eyja2 this was saria+nearl instead of hoshi

oh it's not gonna be 3 defenders for shu but 3 guards, -hoshi -ah for like logos wisadel

also imo, in "blind" runs a lot of units lose value: say mlynarincluding exec

[crisp bolt]

this is my cursed squad at the moment

[spark sinew]

and most stages are easy enough to never needing his burst

so i don't run it (same reason about say, no suzu)

despite running qb

[crisp bolt]

I'm eyjaless so I lack healing

[spark sinew]

run s2 kal!

i used her in my cn acc that lacked healers (literally only her and lumen)

and she's really good

[fiery marsh]

Gladia is my healer in most cases

[cyan gorge]

Vg choice really boils down to personal and play style preference

I use Flametail and Blacknight a lot

[spark sinew]

i tried ines+mumu with a jugg but it felt super clunky in a lot of maps

to the point that flagpipe felt way better when i switched back

[cyan gorge]

Poncirus is my new fav anni vg

Doubles as a tanky blocker

[tardy nymph]

How you guys auto rs 8

Somehow i cant find stable and safe auto run

[spark sinew]

how many slots are you working with

[quaint breach]

hi. Im not sure if this is the proper channel to ask this, but since it involves strategy, imma go ahead.

question : I took a hiatus before the x1 - x6 auto play update. With the new update where the game plays for you up to 6 times, is it worth it to run 1-7 compared to 10-6? A few years back the major gripe some people had with 1-7 is the damage it caused to irl sanity

[somber stone]

1-7 was always worth

[foggy grove]

why not try it yourself

it's always about comfort

if you found x6 1-7 bearable then by all means

[spark sinew]

1-7 was always the superior stage
if you know, you know

[foggy grove]

objectively it's better

[quaint breach]

just wondering what other people think. but yeah, as soon as i cleared out the event shop im gonna spam 1-7. I haven't reached 10-6 so was wondering if its worth rushing to the stage

[spark sinew]

you should rush the story during event downtime regardless

but no, running 10-6 was always a troll decision

and it didn't change

[quaint breach]

troll decision? ok guess im gonna go ahead and just clear it and move on then. thanks guys and gals for the help!

[spark sinew]

probably wrong wording
i meant that it basically never was better to farm, especially if you look at the big picture (say converting byproducts with nine colored deer)

[limpid siren]

it was only ever "better" if time was a limiting factor

whether literally or because you didn't want to sit there restarting 1-7 over and over

[spark sinew]

in that case it also only was "better" if you really needed rocks

cause otherwise dumping it on chips/books/certs is faster and easier

also only relevant for phone only players

[quaint breach]

yeah not all ops use rocks anyway right? nevermind i'll just use my brain this time and plan to raise my ops properly

[lusty basin]

I can't believe I'm saying this but ray is going to be the new "if you really need rocks" strat (but please don't use her for t4 crafts)

[tidal sedge]

so i got a top operator tag and my choices are basically between aak (100%), mostima (100% but no), magallan/suzuran (50/50), phantom (33%), and weedy (33%).. doesnt seem like the best tag combos to me but was wondering what your opinions were =]

[spark sinew]

rocks as byproducts are horrible value

[lusty basin]

yea it's atrocious

ray for t4 crafts is troll

[lusty basin]

if your account is well developed then aak ain't bad

assuming mostima isn't an option based on what you said

[tidal sedge]

i just heard people trashing mostima for the most part

i used her in support a couple times and she seems good

not a pro at the game so no clue

i have shining maxed (did it for fun tbh) so i figured aak wouldnt be bad

but all those archetypes i dont have any 6* in so that's mainly why I wanted to ask

mostima isn't bad

just not better than others in story stages

in most cases

would a maxed shining, e2 silverash (still building s3m3) get me decently far with aak?

maxed means e2 lvl 90?

[smoky halo]

mostima is a util op and not a dmg op
shes used for stalling with a 90% slow field for 30s

[foggy grove]

mostima is just expensive slower

[tidal sedge]

i should correct myself

[lapis hornet]

sa doesn't need shining just aak him before he s3s

[tidal sedge]

level 60 module 3 s3m3 shining

[smoky halo]

ofc if ppl are looking at mostima dmg it sucks

[tidal sedge]

the next 30 levels for 6* is like a 400k cash difference

seems miserable

but honestly gang

be my guest i'm up for any fun or gambling

[lapis hornet]

gamble suzu if you don't have

[smoky halo]

suzu gamba should be best ya

[lapis hornet]

otherwise whoever you're missing

[tidal sedge]

awesome

I'll send it and get back with you in a couple secs

out of the top operator defenders for future reference who should i be manifesting tags for

[lapis hornet]

who's there

saria's alright if you don't get shu

hoshi's alr but not rly priority and she might get outscaled by the time you get her idk

eun sucks

[tidal sedge]

yeee

i saw the mylnar vs new silverash module and i got sad because i was hoping for something more flashy for their original heli drop mylnar

[spark sinew]

yeah sa lives fine without shining

[tidal sedge]

have had silverash since i started back in 2020 (but only really started playing beginning this year)

[lapis hornet]

my sa usage has decline v sharply in the past year

mainly tho there's so many options nowadays

[tidal sedge]

right

the people that've been playing have gotten the practical upgrades but he's still not a bad pickup to carry through a good chunk of story it seems

[lapis hornet]

modern units are just more plug and play friendly

[spark sinew]

aak is lower ceiling than suzu but probably a bit better in meh roster (not to mention no coinflip in getting). You still should probably gamble suzu regardless of the roster though

[lapis hornet]

honeslty I haven't used aak in ages

[tidal sedge]

yeah i need her slow

[lapis hornet]

think last time was cc11

[tidal sedge]

magallan has it with the drones but i saw the complications there so i'd have to get used to it

[lapis hornet]

mag is like

a way of life

not many diehards nowadays

[spark sinew]

i mean you probably haven't used suzu either

since dos

[lapis hornet]

and the rare s1 usages

I use suzu s2 in sss sometimes lol

she's always been a sometimes unit

but she does pop up now and then

[spark sinew]

suzu s2
truly an old player

[tidal sedge]

just being in that stage of gameplay time-wise where i'm still learning and having that creative freedom to try weird shit myself outside of the number crunching

it's been a blast honestly this is the only gacha game i can play

[lapis hornet]

ya have fun

this is the most fun stage of ak tbh

when you have too many units built it's like zzz

[lapis hornet]

unfortunate

[tidal sedge]

well it'll be fun to learn

i know you guys are way past her but when I started back 2 months ago my friend had an actual maxed poncirus which I used to carry through over 50 stages

[spark sinew]

eh, don't
unless you're mostly joking around and already have resources to spend

she's just not worth the investment

[lapis hornet]

I'm not sure what poncirus does tbh except being 5* courier

[limpid siren]

magallan simps are a dead race now

[spark sinew]

ok if poncirus carried you you're very early on

[limpid siren]

literally just that

[tidal sedge]

she just a stat stick

[spark sinew]

she does nothing

[tidal sedge]

in the easy stages i fuck around and stick a bison and shining on her and after s2 i think it's around 1300 def

the noob in me likes seeing numbers go up

[limpid siren]

[spark sinew]

"noob" with bison and shining "maxed"

[tidal sedge]

i am definitely a noob

[limpid siren]

me too dw

[spark sinew]

likewise

[lapis hornet]

can confirm these guys are noobs

[tidal sedge]

certified noob status

[spark sinew]

3 p6 6*

op op

[tidal sedge]

welfares

stop cappin

[spark sinew]

oh, they are? nice

[limpid siren]

hauckindu japing

[tidal sedge]

they're all ass regarding anything that has good physical def

[spark sinew]

spent too much time hanging around in bad company

[lapis hornet]

you have ifrit

and ceobe ig

blaze is still alr if fully built until v high def

[tidal sedge]

the amount of craving i have for a defender 6* is killing me

ceobe is such a weird caster

[lapis hornet]

ya she's not v good for general usage

a lot of new players simp for defenders cause they don't have enough damage

I get it tho

if you wanna cope in the meantime use sa s2 lul

[tidal sedge]

the ones i cant make much use of anymore are saga, vigil, and gladiia.. even lessing can be made useful sometimes with his helidrop s2 but even then again physical defense OP

[spark sinew]

"recent" events are very nice to defenders

[lapis hornet]

yeah cause you built shining poncirus

[tidal sedge]

hey

[lapis hornet]

and sa who does dmg once every new year's eve

[spark sinew]

but yeah just build bubble/cuora

[lapis hornet]

just saying you built 2 defensive units outta 3 can't complain you don't do dmg

[tidal sedge]

im not even lacking dmg

im lacking defense literally

[spark sinew]

because you can't kill anything

[limpid siren]

33% if your E2s are 5*
might as well play 5* only tbh

[spark sinew]

would it be too much of a hot take if i say that vigil> saga here or even in general

[tidal sedge]

i agree with YOU

[spark sinew]

although i wouldn't raise either currently

[tidal sedge]

not a hot take

[limpid siren]

not that spicy tbh

[tidal sedge]

vigil is ALMOST capable of being good

it feels

[spark sinew]

||more like pioneers suck big time ||
but yeah, same thing i suppose

[limpid siren]

i think saga's probably more comfortable to use, but i also don't think vigil is as bad as many people say he is

[lapis hornet]

I'm fine with saga

again tho it's a matter of prioritizing your resources

[spark sinew]

i mean vigil actually passively generates dp, hits air and is relatively safe from being murdered

[lapis hornet]

a lot of units are fine once fully built they're just not necessarily the best to prio

[spark sinew]

saga can survive once due to talent and then kicks the bucket

[limpid siren]

she works nicely within what a pioneer is generally intended to accomplish

[tidal sedge]

i do not play properly at all, just a progression junkie good or bad. if it looks fun to me personally i'll probably build it out

[spark sinew]

top 1/2 pioneer is still only good as much as the best pioneer is

[tidal sedge]

will never mismanage my 6* building again probably after shining

[lapis hornet]

it's fine

[tidal sedge]

that was fucking stupid

[lapis hornet]

shining's okay lol

[tidal sedge]

idk why i did that

it was hell

[lapis hornet]

cause you were craving more defense lmao

[limpid siren]

yea i just don't think "survival talent only works once" is actually a demerit

[tidal sedge]

i think her 2nd module is fire

[limpid siren]

given that most pioneers are already on a timer for value anyway

[lapis hornet]

saga's fine being able to resist early at all is already a plus

[spark sinew]

well we're comparing with immortal to melee enemies Vigil, not to other pioneers

[lapis hornet]

you don't pretend she's actually as good as an actual laner

[tidal sedge]

and the s2 on shining seems underrated since i dont have whoever the magical variation of her is

[limpid siren]

yea and i'm saying they both accomplish their jobs just fine

[lapis hornet]

shining s2's more for like afk usage

[spark sinew]

if anything s2 on shining is overrated
but people still think it's her best skill

[limpid siren]

i don't need to directly compare the units because that's not as helpful as acknowledging they both function within their intended purpose fairly well

[tidal sedge]

i still went with mastering s3

[lapis hornet]

idk what vigil rly does tbh wolves just die his dp gen not that great

like he's okay if you wanna use him but

[tidal sedge]

well

his wolf just explodes and the s2 seems useless cuz the max health regen is trash

[spark sinew]

24sp 7 dp skill op op

with wolves eating some hits occasionally, or even opening some trash maps

[tidal sedge]

i would only want his s3 for the cool animation

[limpid siren]

this basically sums up my opinion of vigil

but i still don't think he's as bad as people say

[tidal sedge]

i dont either

even with my lack of knowledge he literally just seems almost good

[limpid siren]

worth raising? nah, i can't argue for that

[spark sinew]

charge y on pioneers is 38sp for 12dp in comparison

[tidal sedge]

yeah but you get the auraaaaa

poncirus aurraaa

[lapis hornet]

saga gets you 20 dp on fairly short notice

[spark sinew]

his kit is basically unplayable in harder maps

[tidal sedge]

you'll see when the poncirus alter comes out I was right all along

[lapis hornet]

meanwhile she probs won't die

even against tough stuff

[spark sinew]

so he will look way better early on than he actually us

[limpid siren]

what are harder maps though

like high risk cc?

[tidal sedge]

thank you guys for the advice

ima play with magallan and probably build her for no reason

[spark sinew]

saga takes 60 seconds to give 20dp after that

[lapis hornet]

saga used in cc5 I didn't see any vigil there checkmate nerds

[limpid siren]

[tidal sedge]

well saga skill mastery focus is s2 isnt it

[spark sinew]

basically anything that oneshots/twoshots the wolves
which is probably even regular elites nowadays

[limpid siren]

i feel like that's a contrived argument

how many maps really start off with an elite pushing you that one taps a vigil wolf

[spark sinew]

when i say "his kit" i mean the s3 "nuking" mind you
obviously doing nothing and baiting ome attacks with s1 still works fine

[lapis hornet]

what happens after the first cast doesn't rly matter to me

[spark sinew]

spending 14(10) dp to generate 20 dp in 32 seconds is fairly underwhelming for me

why am i trying to defend vigil>saga and ending up shitting on both

[lapis hornet]

you retreat and get another 5 dp back

[spark sinew]

insane!

[lapis hornet]

meanwhile you plugged the lane while she's there

[limpid siren]

The takeaway is that they both function just fine, but pale in comparison to what else is on offer

Ines kinda just shit stomps the entire class outside of more challenging content

[lapis hornet]

I don't rly like arguing about vgs they're all whatever

ines included I know ppl love her nowadays

like they get you dp while you wait for real units and hopefully do a little more on top

[limpid siren]

King of the hill don’t mean much when it’s a hill of shit

[spark sinew]

now that's a hot take :ya:

[limpid siren]

Meh it was true for bagpipe and flags meta, and it’s still true for ines meta

Vanguards are window dressing most days of the week

[spark sinew]

even in current cn ines should be easily top-10 best units in the game

[limpid siren]

Both of these things can be true

[lapis hornet]

yeah yeah a year ago ppl told me ng was top 10 unit in the game

[spark sinew]

the entire unit is so overtuned it's not funny

[limpid siren]

[lapis hornet]

at least bagpipe had like p big dmg in an era when this kinda dmg was rarer

but not that rare either

[spark sinew]

i wonder who were they

[lapis hornet]

ines compresses more roles than usual but like role compression itself isn't needed all that often

to that extent I mean

[limpid siren]

I think i’d rather consider the fact that she’s still gonna be one of the first mfs cut whenever possible

Which is true across the board for vanguards

They hold the most value for early game accs and for players trying to tackle the most difficult content

Everywhere in between and they’re more valuable for comfort than for actual impact

[lapis hornet]

p much

[spark sinew]

not sure how true this actually is

[limpid siren]

Idk you just look at low op records and remark on the pattern of vanguard absence

They only show up when they’re necessary

Or for vg only runs

I’m taking a pretty extreme view of it

But it’s not like i would tell someone to not raise ines

Or pretend that she’s not the best vanguard, and arguably one of the best units in the game

[spark sinew]

that's another can of worms i suppose
because vanguards are the first ones to be optimized out doesn't really say anything about certain vanguard being one of the best units in the game or not

[limpid siren]

I agree

[lapis hornet]

one of the best units in the game is such a vague concept tho

[spark sinew]

it very much is

the way i see it: if you need something that ines provides, she's very often the best unit for it and there's literally no "good" substitute

[limpid siren]

Might be better to state it as her being the most versatile vanguard

[spark sinew]

and it's not some exremely niche stuff that comes up once in 5 years either

[limpid siren]

Unrelated but i’m so pissed off that 5* fang isn’t an agent

[spark sinew]

all while being so insanely versatile she's also never a "dead" pick: she would always find a value

[vivid rain]

Tbf i dont think fang as a chracter doesnt really fits agent that well? A defensive agent would be interesting though

[limpid siren]

Agent is just Charger 2.0

[zealous cradle]

isnt fang alter skill wise just a miniature bagpipe

[limpid siren]

Idc about any lore implications

Fang should have been an agent, because wild mane is the prototype for the archetype

[spark sinew]

from my very quick look at her she looked like wildmane 2.0

[limpid siren]

And they just took a step back

[lapis hornet]

lore is what you make of it

fang goes on vacation picks up sunglasses roleplays as a spy

there's your agent

[spark sinew]

oh that's a weird s2

i mostly looked at the talent back then ig

[limpid siren]

Yea but fang gets dogged on rdp time

[spark sinew]

also unrelated but i hate that art

[limpid siren]

I don’t mind it, but it’s nothing special

[spark sinew]

sure let's leave the stomach unprotected

i sure wonder why you have the scar, Fang, I sure do...

[zealous cradle]

if we’re being real you can say that about most units

barely anyone is wearing protective gear to begin with much less armor

[spark sinew]

yeah and it's horrible every time

Ines' skin is probably the worst offender on the recent memory

[lapis hornet]

lavalter remains unmatched

fang alt doesn't look too bad to me tho

[limpid siren]

I’m happier when i just ignore this dissonance tbh

[lapis hornet]

wait is gamepress ak dead

doesn't show up in google anymore

[zealous cradle]

it shouldnt be

[limpid siren]

It is

Hosting issues

They’re rebuilding the entire site

Shit was dying for months

They’re working on the ak section now iirc

But it will take a bit longer

[zealous cradle]

i thought someone said it was already up again

[limpid siren]

Some sections are

Not ak last time i checked

[zealous cradle]

ah

so it was a half truth

[spark sinew]

it honestly quite easy to ignore it when it doesn't even try to look...practical for operations let's say

especially if it's some edgelord like Lava

[limpid siren]

Coral Coast does not exist

I pretend i do not see it

[vivid rain]

Midnight skin is so good tho

[spark sinew]

coral coast is specifically them being on the beach or whatever

[zealous cradle]

sideroca

[pallid veldt]

you will get skyfire coral coast skin ads and you will like it!!!!

[spark sinew]

again, very easy to look past (and even makes sense, not like you would go on the beach or whatever they do in summer events, while wearing usual garb)

[limpid siren]

Biting you

[zealous cradle]

wait so what do you have issue with

[limpid siren]

Go E2 another 5* stinky!

[zealous cradle]

is it shit like surtr who literally just wears a skirt and nothing else

[spark sinew]

stuff like Ines' skin

[pallid veldt]

i would except

LS5 is proving to be literally impossible

[zealous cradle]

burnt to ash

[pallid veldt]

only so much my e1 40 kaze can do to hold these dogs

dies of cringe

[spark sinew]

???

[zealous cradle]

oh i get it now

armored woman except doesnt protect the actually important spots

[limpid siren]

Isn’t LS-5 just pluma/bp (pot gated lol lmao)?

Or is that CE-5

[zealous cradle]

and tbh

[pallid veldt]

i think thats CE-5

CE-5 is easy

[zealous cradle]

most 3* are also like

[pallid veldt]

LS-5 is 4 lanes

[zealous cradle]

teenagers at best

[limpid siren]

Oh yea

That one sounds rough for a noob like u

[zealous cradle]

only midnight and orchid are like actual adults iirc

[pallid veldt]

ok wtf

[limpid siren]

[pallid veldt]

well time to put it in the do-after-i-get-kroos-alter pile

🛌

[zealous cradle]

why did u even e1 kaz do you not have better ops like leonhardt (dont)

[vivid rain]

LS 5 is the exp stage right?

[pallid veldt]

all of my 5*s are e1d cause like

idk

well all of them except for kafka and vendela

kafka idk what to do with her yet and vendela

[zealous cradle]

yes

[pallid veldt]

who tf even is that so

[vivid rain]

Isnt that stage clearable with 3 stars easily

[zealous cradle]

vendela is incantation medic but weird

[limpid siren]

easily

[pallid veldt]

man

[zealous cradle]

didnt you just s2m1 bp

[vivid rain]

Yeah you just bring 4 vanguards, two marksman and medic and the stage is practically over

[pallid veldt]

4 vanguards

[limpid siren]

There’s only one person here who gets to tease disa for this

[pallid veldt]

lowkey this is probably doable though

[limpid siren]

And it’s cake

[pallid veldt]

i just have to think a little harder

[zealous cradle]

🍰

im trying to help but like

you dont have canta do you

[limpid siren]

He don’t have shit

Let him paddle his own canoe

Disa gaps everyone here rn

[zealous cradle]

unfortunate

[pallid veldt]

holy shit bp try to tank one (1) (a singular) (non-plural) (a solitary) drone challenge

[limpid siren]

[tidal sedge]

Is Disa doing some kind of new account challenge

[limpid siren]

Yea

5* only

[vivid rain]

Ok im back

The stage was pretty easy, had to borrow a vanguard from support tho

[turbid badge]

disa play CN

[sly drift]

Holy fuck. Musical Disaster stage with -DP regen corrosion is cursed af

[vivid rain]

All f5 stages with baro is cancer

[turbid badge]

my internship-

[zealous cradle]

?

[turbid badge]

i will try to do my best on my internship 🤓

[pallid veldt]

prob cant

weird CN account policies and what not

[soft crystal]

Hi strat, whats the most consistent way to phase skip harold

[narrow pendant]

Wasnt it just, buff army horn

[vivid rain]

Iirc buff army dorothy is more consistent than buff army thorns

For whatever reason idk

[soft crystal]

What if buff army mizuki

[glass monolith]

I did H7-4 with Mizuki Warf carry

[modern plover]

[cyan gorge]

Eben

[astral cosmos]

the errrr

[pure pasture]

Ok does boss monster mephisto have some sort of infinite range? Cause even my ops way in the back are getting wrecked

[fiery marsh]

The aura yes, it is infinite range

[pure pasture]

;-;

Any suggestions for supports. I'm guessing Uber healers?

[fiery marsh]

What you have?

[pure pasture]

For Healers? One sec

[fiery marsh]

Meh

Idk try borrowing a eyja alter with s3

[pure pasture]

also this is my typical team

[fiery marsh]

Maybe stack her with perfurmer/susurro if you have enough slots

I think its doable (certanly is)

One tip is bursting mephisto during egg phase until he is at half hp bar

So you will have to deal with less poison stacks

[pure pasture]

Module eyja or nah?

[fiery marsh]

Probally isnt necessary

[pure pasture]

@fiery marsh so I still only 2* it and yet somehow I got the originium anyway?

I may have done the secret ending I've heard about

[viscid mist]

m8-8?

[fiery marsh]

The secret ending unlocks by letting mephisto leak

[pure pasture]

@viscid mist Yes

[viscid mist]

If you leak the boss you get secret ending yes

[pure pasture]

But does the secret ending make up for not getting 3* cause I still got originium after the fact

[viscid mist]

Yes

Its worthwhile

it technically gives you 2 op as you need to have all other secret endings unlocked for the last one

[pure pasture]

Ah ok I'll have to look up the other ones

Tbh ch. 8 is definitely one of the more emotional arcs

[fiery marsh]

Its an extra, so you can still get another originium by doing the 3* clear

[pure pasture]

Oh! Huh then I better figure a strategy for a 3 star run

[zealous cradle]

borrow mudrock she trivializes bot lane with s3

[pure pasture]

Bot lane?

[zealous cradle]

with the possessed soldiers

mephisto himself isnt hard as long as you have healers its bot that can be hard

[spark sinew]

does reedic cycle into the waves

[zealous cradle]

idk isnt mud just easier tho

thats what i did anyway and it was pretty free

[cosmic thicket]

doesn't penance do better because her barrier is more spammable and actually kills the throwers in a timely manner

[zealous cradle]

even suss and perf can outheal the mist

[fiery marsh]

Mud can actually outheal the poison?

[cosmic thicket]

if you proc the poison slowly enough yes

[fiery marsh]

I did with penance too

[zealous cradle]

dude idk i just remember mudrock made it easy when i did it 2 years ago

its really not that hard of a stage is what im trying to say

penance would probably be better cuz she can chip throwers but i dont like using her vs high dph

aka the melees

[spark sinew]

i would try to rec exec but it seems that people do have problems usually

mud just seems to only solve the easiest part of the stage, hence the reedic line

[cosmic thicket]

by the time the melees come she should already have like an extra 6k hp

[pure pasture]

I also tried doing it with chalter at one point

Tho come to think of it surtr might be useful too

[zealous cradle]

what you mean people dont have trouble with the possessed spam?

[viscid mist]

exec works wonders if youre not doing cm

cm makes it more complicated

[pure pasture]

Tbh the moment the next limited banner comes I need to go all out and get some op operators

[spark sinew]

usually they hit mephisto too hard and die

[zealous cradle]

poison mist wont charge defensive sp right

[spark sinew]

no
moght charge lin or ulpian though, I'm unsure

[tidal sedge]

Lin shield blocks the damage but doesn't trigger sp talent iirc

[pure pasture]

I'll try mudrock for the next attempt

[green turret]

How do I do this?

[spark sinew]

you probably die

try to kill the boss when it comes to the middle

[green turret]

ok

[zealous cradle]

i dont think you can but you might as well try

[tidal sedge]

better leak the boss

hmm no

aspd debuff is hard

[peak cloak]

leak boss sound like the worst idea

[summer copper]

[leaden elk]

how do i reroll with multiple windows on bluestack?

[tidal sedge]

reroll what

._.

the account?

if you doing multiple than use the guest login > complete the tutorial > gacha > satisfied > bind account

[drowsy jewel]

multiple instances is in the tool bars

just look for it

[soft crystal]

I would just point click and mlynar downwards so you can kill the boss as fast as possible

[sly drift]

0 index literally make you can't see what are you going to fight eh

[sly drift]

The jumpscare

[modern plover]

[drowsy jewel]

[worldly stirrup]

[crisp bolt]

[ivory leaf]

Is degenbreacher worth the effort?

[crisp bolt]

She's pretty good but you can borrow for starter

Oh woops this isn't IS

[drowsy jewel]

wdym "worth the effort"

if it's raising, then yeah she's so braindead good

[ivory leaf]

Alright thanks mate

[summer copper]

Imagine get into unwell with just 3 ops

[spark sinew]

pulling for a unit and then asking if it's "worth investing" is an interesting strategy

[noble pewter]

This is what we call confirmation bias they just want look for info to reaffirm their beliefs

[narrow pendant]

Ok, next time lets say "no" and make them reroll for something else

[latent monolith]

Mlynar? Walter? Trash unit you're going to need hellagur

(for legal reasons this is a joke)

[drowsy jewel]

good idea im doing this next time

[ivory leaf]

Erm

I'll pretend I didn't see this

[sly drift]

March of the dead is cursed enough with secluded passage condition : deal half damage in close combat but deal more damage if enemies 2 tiles away when Im in half cooked guard squad.

[sweet surge]

Is anyone able to help me with IS? I have never gotten this far and I have no clue what to do ;-;

[glass monolith]

Learn map, find optimal operators to carry you.
Proceed to greed 20 emergency ops in row and die

Then repeat

[summer copper]

which

[sweet surge]

4

I can stream my current setup

Or take photos

[summer copper]

Show it

Current squad

[summer copper]

Shoulda sweep through it

Use foldartals too

If u got smth like -redeployment time and +aspd it would be easier

On boss level

[sweet surge]

Never done the boss before

That’s why I need help xD

[cyan gorge]

That’s a lot of of arts for a boss with high res

[sweet surge]

I didn’t know that 💀💀💀

I’m cooked

[cyan gorge]

But it’s bn0 so you’re probably fine

[summer copper]

Fr that's why typhon is god

Don't worry it's n0 it will be easy

[sweet surge]

You think I’ll be able to stream it for one of ya?

Just to give me some assistance with placement

Cuz trust me, my placements is horrendous

[cyan gorge]

It’s 4 am and I need sleep

[summer copper]

Not for me
I'm outside and can not join it
Go #is-station for nerds that can help u

[sweet surge]

Ur fine xS

[sweet surge]

Oke :3

Thx thx

[green gazelle]

need help for last stage of the event

[glass wedge]

Yall have tips to beat 3-4 and 2-10?

Im gonna send my line up in a sec

[unkempt lintel]

my suggestion is...

e1 ur ops first.... e1 l30-40, and max skill level

after that try again

[viscid mist]

e1 your 3 star operators

it's very cheap

[peak cloak]

*skill level 4, aint no way he/she has enough materials for sl7

for those ops

[unkempt lintel]

would do raise then one by one until said level and skill level

and then try again, if let say managed only to lvl4

if it make it then good, else raise em further

if e1 skill r7 still not enuf, then strategize better/change teams

[unkempt lintel]

anyway he ask in help so i think u know who to change....

but i didn't focus on it tbh coz the main issue is ops so underleveled

[glass wedge]

All i needed was to change pred to pinecone to beat

[hoary coral]

Does Harold’s furnace extinguisher cooldown reset per meteor

[merry narwhal]

no, it's static, but first activation is a bit quicker in p2

[hoary coral]

That sucks

[merry narwhal]

wdym

[glass monolith]

Boss just sucks don't change my mind

Or to be exact my hyper specific scuffed "no strategy is best strategy" tactic used on RS-8 which due poor optimization, not knowing how boss skill targets, sample text, which in result lead to additional level of frustation in dealing with dedushka

[hoary coral]

I don’t have the dps to take down 25 percent before first activation

So I have to let him take his 2nd loop

[unkempt lintel]

then good

but the fact remains u have underleveled unit... yeah ig im emphasizing on it too much but yeah... coz even with e1 units u can still clr most of the content in game(yeah thats why low end guide exist)

[gaunt seal]

How can I make a good team for SSS alsterii monastry?
I have not been able to clear the full SSS before and would like to challenge it again
https://krooster.com/u/Yujiko

If possible, I would also like some advice on abandoned lighthouse SSS

[cyan gorge]

Executor2 smashes momentary with block 4-5, also bring another defender with block stacks to catch what leaks through Exec

Lighthouse is just bring Eyjaberry with sniper stacks

[cosmic thicket]

emergency lighthouse f1 to f5 is doable with low end + irene (still need a way to do f6 but likely still technically doable)
boss is only-2 leak so one can stall a swarmcaller or a pincer and leak the boss wave 1, then set up the squad to kill everyone else

[gaunt seal]

Do I try to build Irene just for this SSS?

[gaunt seal]

So I should bring someone like Jessica Alter/Hoshiguma as support unit to stack defenders?

[cosmic thicket]

u can borrow, but degen will definitely be better

[gaunt seal]

Thank you Halley

[cosmic thicket]

np

just make sure u know how to stack and stuff

[gaunt seal]

Is there a small guide on SSS?

[glass monolith]

Stack ops, win

[spark sinew]

don't bring 20 "good" ops

bring like 5-6 carries at most, and the rest should be stuff to cycle the deck and give them equipment

[gaunt seal]

You mean ops like summoners and FRDPs?

[glass monolith]

In old SSS cycling was so much easier

[gaunt seal]

Do I currently have enough carries for SSS?

[glass monolith]

He means Supporter ability being to assist you draw more operators to deploy instead stat increasing

[spark sinew]

new players have bad teamcomps usually

[gaunt seal]

Or will I need to lookout for better carries?

[spark sinew]

because they treat it as a regular teamcomp

so they bring their 20 highest level operators

this is not actually a good idea

[spark sinew]

lemme use my telepathic abilities to guess your roster

oh you posted above, lemme see

your roster looks super good

penance mud cy degen exalt all are decent melee carries

[gaunt seal]

Who is cy?

[spark sinew]

chongyue

[gaunt seal]

Should I try to get Goldenglow for SSS?

In shop ops

[spark sinew]

no

🚮

[gaunt seal]

GG is not good for SSS?

[spark sinew]

.

why did "not with your roster" get censored

[spark sinew]

you want to run the same type of carries (melee or ranged) because this makes the teams more consistent

and ranged carries can't get stacks and produce dp at the same time (unlike melee carries)

that's if we ignore that your melee carry roster is to die for

[scarlet mortar]

[viral inlet]

Lol the boss keeps destroying me

I cannot crush Harold

[scarlet mortar]

make sure your heaters are on

and you have some bodies to throw once he kills your main guy

[viral inlet]

I have been

[scarlet mortar]

he does deal like 3.5k phys melee

[viral inlet]

Oh

That explains a lot

I want to one shot him though

[gaunt seal]

I am use to calling him by his full name

[scarlet mortar]

you need ebenholz or horn for that

[spark sinew]

@cosmic thicket who's the best carry to get on melee focused map

assuming the rest of the roster is bad

[scarlet mortar]

or someone with a pretty big burst frame

[spark sinew]

exec seems iffy because i remember stuff oneshotting him sometimes

ig i can just slap like 2-3 specs for that

[viral inlet]

Yeah. I have an e2 eben but like

[scarlet mortar]

ch'en, irene and DB can't burst harold btw, they take multiple hits and that's enough for him to get his iframes

[viral inlet]

I don't know what format would work

[somber stone]

Isn’t he locked out during snowball attack

[viral inlet]

Oh, good to know

[scarlet mortar]

eben with like 4 buffers/debuffers or sth

[scarlet mortar]

he gains invuln if the damage crosses a threshold, but he doesn't gate the damage itself to 25%

[spark sinew]

melee focused map also is very fun without any supporters

[glass monolith]

Eben and Horn S2 do damage within frames, boss activate on health gates, health gate logic activates with small delay

[scarlet mortar]

so if you blast 100% of his hp's worth he just dies

[viral inlet]

Ooo

[scarlet mortar]

a levelled eben does half his hp or sth just on his own

shouldn't be too hard

[viral inlet]

I just have bad timing probably

[scarlet mortar]

remember he gains DR for each dead furnace

[viral inlet]

Okie

[cosmic thicket]

this is laterano or lighthouse

[spark sinew]

laterano then

[cosmic thicket]

laterano i feel like u can kinda just use degen

[spark sinew]

i went with degen

literally last draw

business as usual

[cosmic thicket]

honestly quite incredible

something something supporter B would never

[spark sinew]

you know what was the second to last draw

the thingy that should've tried to prevent it!

[cosmic thicket]

[glass monolith]

Don't even start with me

[cosmic thicket]

old SSS map detected opinion rejected

[cosmic thicket]

a

[spark sinew]

supporter a are funnier anyway

[glass monolith]

I had 6 supporters at bottom once

[spark sinew]

but also i run 0 supporters on laterano

[glass monolith]

[spark sinew]

honestly looks like very easy deathless

they really overnerfed the maps...

[glass monolith]

Fucking mad lad not going to just Suzu Ceobe cocaine train

[cosmic thicket]

0 supporter 6 defender on laterano is crazy

i find more than 3 defender bricky i think

[glass monolith]

At least dude knows how to abuse block equipment of laterano

[spark sinew]

eh you full cycle your deck at the end of enemy 15

but yeah degen feels much stronger than other carries

[viscid mist]

i did full melee laterano run

it wasnt hard

[cosmic thicket]

i mean laterano isn't that bad

especially now with degen

[viscid mist]

i probably would have had an heart attack doing laterano kazemierz squad without degen though

🫡

ranged squad was already miserable enough

kazimierz is the worst squad ever designed

at least AH squad was good with AH

This squad does NOTHING

[cosmic thicket]

kazi has mlynar wdym

[viscid mist]

yeah and you have to keep cycling ops for it to work

so much for mlynar synergy

[lapis hornet]

(mlynar sucks)

[cosmic thicket]

just run gravel spec a

xdd

[viscid mist]

youre crazy

🫡

[lethal dragon]

Satori demoted

[cosmic thicket]

demoted to ako mod

🫡

[lethal dragon]

Debuffed even

🫡

[spark sinew]

eh i kinda need to stall for degen

also it's not applicable in this case, but there are 2 defenders that are also carries anyway

[cosmic thicket]

oh u were doing degen solo carry

wait

degen/penance/mudrock?

no way ur doing degen/penance/horn that sounds schizo af

[spark sinew]

oh ig it makes it 3
no i was thinking about mud and penance, but they're not used in this run

but this run is like

bison nearl saria hung + 2 idr

[cosmic thicket]

honestly quite incredible

yeah then that's justified

[spark sinew]

best of the best!

[cosmic thicket]

my typical loadout was exec penance mlynar/qb as carries but honestly u could probably replace either exec or mlynar/qb for degen

[spark sinew]

actually you are supposed to mulligan aggressively for your solo carry

i kinda forgot that it's a thing

[modern copper]

So in 5-6 there's a problem right

The top lane barely gets any push during the start, but goes all out at the end

The bottom lane is marginally harder in the beginning than the top wave, but it doesn't push as hard as top lane during the end

So how am i supposed to distribute my laneholders

[pallid veldt]

guys i have a problem

i usually put defender on tile 1

because my tequila is two spots above that face down

but if defender on tile 1 then the big guys arent in heater range which means they are basically unkillable for me

and defender on tile 1 means ranged guard on tile 2 so it can reignite the bottom heater

but if defender on tile 2 then no place for ranged guard to reignite bottom heater

defender on tile 2 is only way i can think of to get big guys in heater range

[glass monolith]

Someone above 2 face down or with wide range like Shamare/Gnosis etc face left to reignite

[glass monolith]

https://youtu.be/3IWECBJYPHM?si=U_N6E76AXHxo6Vn7

[green turret]

How should I do this or not possible with my team, my first time so idk the mechanics of the boss?

[celest bluff]

Doesn't take long for people to meme about this event to Frostpunk

[latent halo]

Burst it instead of stall

[fiery marsh]

Deadeye can shot both heaters in that tile btw

[vocal leaf]

you know, those extra casters were beyond to evil

[pallid veldt]

ok guys how to win

[turbid badge]

boyz

[sly drift]

This has come to my mind recently. Does ed 2 actually easier to do in diff 13-15 IS4 than ed1

[smoky halo]

sort of

[bitter halo]

i wasnt expecting first ex stage to have swarms of enemy wtf

[smoky halo]

in a vacuum its easier

but it also requires more counter picks

so ur poorer in hope

[turbid badge]

me whe degenbrecher offskill

[sly drift]

My clear on ex 1 was like.... Press mumu melee s3. Then drop sexas

[turbid badge]

😬 so descriptive

[ember furnace]

Is Honeyberry a good alternative to Eyja Alter (I don't have Eyja Alter) for RS-EX-8? Or just in general?

[surreal star]

no

a lot of people use eyja for her high hps in general while honey is only good at healing elemental

[ember furnace]

so am I just screwed not having Eyja Alter then?

[somber falcon]

Eyja doesn't do anything special for this event

[ember furnace]

[somber falcon]

So any normal medic is fine unless you need her range specifically

[ember furnace]

gotcha

[zealous cradle]

any good burst healing is fine for harold

if ur confused

[strange hazel]

i haven't done ex but i think purestream s1 should work

[peak cloak]

people use Eyja cuz the comforts she bring, otherwise just play with different strats.
we live good without eyja back then

btw who added back Eyja slug should have a promotion

[strange hazel]

you are never screwed not having a 6*

you just have to fight harder

unless you're playing DOS S3

though i bet some 5* player did that

[turbid badge]

i used silence alter and normal silence lol

[narrow pendant]

Damn these ex stages are so much easier than i thought, only ex5 was a bit of a bitch

[sly drift]

Ex5cm is hard until you realize it just drop sexas

[terse sierra]

you don't need her, but if you do have her and NG, it makes you basically invincible against harold. I think I dropped down to like 1 heater left on briefly and was still somehow alive

[ivory leaf]

Okay so I got Harold should I Use him?

[vivid rain]

Dont bother until you need to heal elemental damage

[ivory leaf]

Gotchu

[halcyon adder]

Harold was pretty hard

[ivory leaf]

Time to prioritize Degenbreach

[halcyon adder]

Really tanky

Has dmg reduction

[ivory leaf]

I'm still stuck on the stage

[halcyon adder]

Pretty much kills most units if enough heaters r not active

[ivory leaf]

[halcyon adder]

Ya u pretty much need to follow the mechanics in second stage

[ivory leaf]

Btw for degenbreacher what skill should I prioritise to M3?

[halcyon adder]

Or I guess u can hyperbuff degen and ignore mechanics idk

S3 o

[ivory leaf]

Okey s3

[halcyon adder]

Wait is eben actually good for this boss?

[tidal sedge]

Some folks cheesed RS8 Harold with him ye

Idk about EX8

[glass monolith]

Well he has 20% more HP and i am not calculating 60 and 50 RES difference combined with all BS people add on field

[tidal sedge]

Probably doable then? The buffsquads I've seen for RS8 were pretty scuffed

A more tuned one can possibly compensate the stat difference.

[near folio]

Ok wtf Harold oneshots Gummy in EX-8

She has truly fallen off

[somber stone]

Have you tried s2

[misty magnet]

i need help w rs-8

[near folio]

Bruh one hit from him in phase 1 and Cuora is already down to 20% hp

[glass monolith]

Quercus time

[near folio]

Can she even survive on skill for phase 2?

[glass monolith]

I heard his EX phase 2 buff is joke compared to RS-8

[near folio]

What? They have different values?

[glass monolith]

RS-8 give more stats and 50 attack speed, RS-EX don't give attack speed and less stats (Like +10% ATK instead +20% or something)

[near folio]

Man another fight they made stalling impossible in

How much would Degen + Shamare doll do to Harold?

[glass monolith]

Well he is not that tanky himself, not sure about phase 1 but you will most likely hit healthgate on p2

Just started EX, love stages so far

[near folio]

It's joever

It's time to bring back Shamare + Roberta stalling

Cant believe I have to pull it out again

[high kelp]

ive been pulling my hair out all day trying to beat rs 8 and im at my limit

[near folio]

EX or normal?

[high kelp]

normal 😭😭
ive even tried kyo guide and i still cant beat it

[near folio]

Harold is truly a difficult one to crack

[high kelp]

very... i keep triggering the second wave with all the heavies early before mlynar has his skill ready and it just fucks me over...

[glass monolith]

Bro Surtr favorite enemy take 90 damage from my Tequila

[near folio]

Kek

Does Ptilopsis make Shamare have 100% uptime?

[glass monolith]

What is Shamare SP on skill

[near folio]

30sp

Doll lasts for 15 secs

Skill recharges sp while doll is up

Wait nvm it cant

[glass monolith]

Ptilo is +0.3, 30/1.3 is 23.07

[near folio]

Idk what I was smoking

[glass monolith]

Smoke permament uptime Erato

[somber falcon]

What ops are you using?