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Ines maybe
Yeah Ines can solo hold right side as long as no enemy hp or weaken atk, with s1 for reed sp risk
hp increase or atk increase for enemy risk?
Atk if your planning to not get hit, hp if you can tank and have time to spare
okay thanks
atk increase is usually better
Oh no, skins preview in game-news. Snow fight in Siberia featuring tactical snowball strike boss incoming 
Leto time at last
men(
harold is coming finally 
oh yeah.... imma ask in better help channel
whats the consensus for harold vs two 5 star berries? 
also.... nightmare alter incoming
misusing the channel though
he mainly competes with mulb I'd say
outside of niche vlears you kinda ignore all 3 and live your life
sorry... ehe...
i see so how about vs honey??? is she worse than harold?
well he can't afk at all
i see....ok tnx for the info
well i basically told you nothing but sure
personally i like him more than mulb on paper, because way better cycling
in practice idt i even bothered with him too much on cn
and in en medics are benched in favor of eyja but every oh so often i remember how bad it feels to use mulb
He is a welfare Mulberry S2. Entirely about burst with none of the afk of the other berries.
also he's the best looking elemental medic but like
not a high bar?
also i never understood people who coped afk mulb1
maybe i'm missing something?
like there's 0 reason to not use honey instead
It's rather potent health healing with a big range.
Like how Eyjaberry gets used for her S1 even without elemental damage.
Big range.
eyja actually heals a lot and isn't one target
Mulberry S1 also heals a lot.
honey also heals a lot of corrosion and is double target
oh?
dunno honey afk healing jist so comfy
but mulb s2 so reliable when u need it
Honey has meh health healing and great elemental healing. Mul has pretty good health healing and ok elemental healing.
in serious content mulb seemed to need an accompanying healer anyway from what i remember
but she also couldn't keep up most of the time if you needed to heal more than 1 elemental "instance" (diff ops)
Like you wouldn't take Honeyberry into a stage without elemental damage. Mulberry S1 was taken into stages without elemental damage for the same reason Lumen is.
Big range afk healing.
These days Mulberry isn't as popular thanks to Lumen module Y, Quercus with module and limited Eyjaberry S1.
Default range afk medics you're basically stuck with Shining S2, Warf S1 or Nightingale S2.
If you want reliable, Harold S2M3 will heal 1050 elemental damage on ops below half elemental damage. S2L7 heals for 840. All on a 35/25 or 30/25 cycle. Compared to Mulberry S2 72/30 or 66/30.
people overestimated mulberry's healing back then and they probably still do
it didn't take quercus module to be able to show that her raw healing was always mediocre
She was never a top tier healer. She was "good enough" where her range made you take her.
She also pretty much fell off early mid 2023. Lumen knocked her down a peg and she basically hasn't been seen since Reed alter.
Her range wasn't enough to make up for enemy stat creep highlighting "used to be good enough" chapter 10 and earlier.
yea, good enough is just dime a dozen for a 5* medic
i'm only here to disrespect mulberry
she was the flavour of the month in the same way that quercus' module has overinflated her value to many people
The joys of raw hps.
I will give up
On getting 600 points on this cc
I'm a beginner so I wasn't ready for this, I'll wait for the next one ig
Hopefully you got the flamebringer skin
That thing gonna eat up a lot of cc currency if you buy it straight from the shop
I can't even do 10 risk bruh 
Did it
Nice
dont u have an e2
copy a guide or smthing then
idk abt taking enemy atk up for that squad but ngl it can definitely go for 200
DP down is free
skip the car tags and the reed on fire tag ig
extra evocators is also kinda free if you don't take too much enemy atk
No ele healing moment
nobody really cares for e.healing this CC ngl
ranged tiles are few and the burn damage is sparse
I suppose to use these risk for the banner?
the reeds give camo so the left side basically only has one op taking damage at worst, same for the right side if you don't take the burning reeds
think you can skip the class tag, but yh
I don't think auto risk select is smart enough to use new start point. Also it selects max risk within group so it will pick Drone DEF, Drone Invis when it is not needed to pick tile bans / fireball casters group
hmmm
deploy limt 5 or squad max 7
What's the best way to kill the 2nd swamp rover with all its risks on and it's movement speed risk?
It doesn't stay still long enough for surtr to kill
do u have uofficial?
Uofficial?
her
Nope I dont

u can either supplement surtr dmg with texas/nearl/ceo etc.
or stall with bind/movespd/stun slow
Stall with bind, is mumu s3 good?
On paper it can work but I'm 100% you're taking -sp reeds
is this for the mission or are you pushing scores
I'm trying for 620 risk
I'm mostly sorted until 2nd rover appears then it all kinda falls apart
Yes, but the 50% not 90% reduc
Ines
oh cant u just ines bind then
She's focused on killing the right side mobs
maybe show roster
others u got yea
have u trieds saria s3
chad platinum
No, but for what purpose?
arts amp for surtr + slow
Arts amp from where?
from s3
Yeah, her trust isn't high enuf ;-;
i was gonna recommend mostima
Thank you for the help, I will go try now
She's alr mod 3
oh mostima already mod3?
ah
that's M3
it's fine, can work with saria hopefully
Anyway tysm for the help I will go now
Mhmhm
okay let see
Kaltsit and monster can solo left side
will need another blocker
sp regen
dublin flamechaser only go right side right
need help on this stage
Viviana
Nuff said
Skalter + Gnosis S1 to help Viviana
Gladiia in the right lane to kill the casters and buff Skalter
Horn S1 is a banger here, other than that just figure out your line setup to debuff the golems and block saxophones
Attack/Def recovery is not affected by the SP down aura
there's some mechanic here and I don't know what it does 
guess fcking around and finding out is the option
Normal recovery SP down aura
The line makes the SP regeneration normal again
Some enemies interact with the line too but just try it first
chongyue can hold all 3 rightside lanes but its kinda annoying, good for the slug rush tho
better here than on the emergency is4 f5 node (imagine learning it there haha h-hah)
how much was her hps actually
were the options back then so bad? I really can't remember when people used her... range or not
uh weirdly enough this could be a no-class ban angle 
I don't have pyrolysis caster experience tho so I can't intuit for the ceobe+eyja pair can do
ceobe eyja is the meta pair
can they do 620 without FRDs?
how are you not sweeping this actually
typhon virtuosa both casters kal
i think half of those just soloes their lanes on 620
yea
you definitely class ban because you can afford it though
at least that's the angle
but you got options
was it guard sniper and spec caster?
yep
ines s1 borrow + maxed typhon s2 handle the lion's share of right/bottom, need lots of help for first invisible tower
that help can be virtuosa since that's all you need for second tower too
can you somehow use typhon for the left?
i usually did defender on the left but i think kal can do a lot on either right or left
instead
how do i slow the first withering collector disciple? iirc the first one spawns the thing in the blue box which can't be baited
assuming no slow
it's invis
i've seen people do the strat where they stall a rover so the bottom left tile is in baiting range
maybe, seems like a waste of her DPH tho
.
or that too yeah
oh you asked for slow
just want to know all possible options ig
i think you need to reveal it for that? ~~ i actually didn't try virtuosa, maybe she works~~
wonder if earthspirit s2 works
but if you can reveal, most people are better off picking 1 seal risk and just killing them I think
earthspirit s2 works š
(btw i can't reveal, i run 4*)
i heard it's really janky with invis tho
totter requires the other enemies to die fast and the collectors to not be hyperbuffed
but this requires taking few to no enemy risks, so i'm under the assumption it's just better to leak em
how low atk does my defender need to be
my main concern is that my defenders are too good
and if i hyperbuff the enemy mooks everyone might get overrun
Have an old copypasta.
Also to compare Lumen healing with Shining/Mulberry healing.
Lumen S3M3. Atk = 953, interval = 2.19.
Close range = 435 hps. Long range = 348 hps.
Shining hps outside of skill is 242. With S1M3 513 hps. S3M3 363 hps.
Mulberry S1M3 pot 1 294 hps. Max pot 310 hps.
so not that much worse compared to modless lumen?
was it before he even got status resist mod
so no module stats at all?
It was before Lumen launched.
i meant the lumen numbers
Yeah, no module stats. Lumen was released in CN but not global.
also that puts into perspective how op Shu's grass is
Also to throw in Quercus.
No module 304 hps
Tier 1 module 418 hps
Tier 3 module 431 hps
Max level S1M3.
i thought medics had higher numbers that that but never cared to calc
On skill they mostly do. Like Shining S1M3 is 513 hps.
yeah ig we should compare shu with "current" ops
so like eyjaberry only
not to lumen s3
The funny part with eyjaberry is on paper her healing isn't too crash hot thanks to long intervals and low attack, but her talent 1 is an additional 60% healing.
If only she had range of like, normal medic 
Issue is she has range of AoE medic, so even less range 
4-7 the bug rush is annoying and lappy is too expensive for silencing
Is this team good for a newbie?
No dobermann
Sorta useless if your team isn't all 3 stars
Other than that I can't say
Ah okay
Perfumer is good cus of her aoe heal
If you have click use her over amiya
It's better to ask this in help ngl
Oh ok sorry for the trouble
Nah it's finee
how new is ur account and is rerolling something ur open to? in about 4 days a new operator banner is dropping with an absolutely insanely powerful operator that to be honest might be worth waiting for then rerolling on
3 hours just to clear this fucking stage 
Is this your team? It seems possible
@ivory nimbus This is the basic framework. You need to select the ignited tag on the right. You need to select 3 pioneers, Surtr to handle small cars, and Typhon to handle large flying objects.
Okay putting here, I'm struggling so badly haha... I just want flamebringers skin... here are my units... I also have many peoples support units I can use in game
I'm a casual player who likes pretty pixels...
thorns s2 usage š„ āļø
A skill of all time
Your team is strong, but lacks operator levels.
i used reed + spot (any tank basically) to solve left side
then virt + bodies to solve right can replace virt with gg or any arts
not sure how well thorns performs with double atk down
but im guessing its still fine
Too bad, the effective attack grid of the thorn is only 3 grids. It needs to be blocked before the reed is completely ignited. The follow-up is also extremely unstable because the dps is too low and the damage is shared among the flying objects.
just fb skin, so no fire or drones 
really
i mean if ur just aiming for the skin u can skip the fire and drone risks
just pick the ones that are required and nothing else
to make it easier
looking to do SSS. who are some good carries i should use? is mlynar any good?
mlynar, mizuki, chongyue are good examples
I have no plan and i must throw goldenglow at it
i look forward to him failing
idt current maps favor all of them as much as previous ones
i think they figured that they need to make SSS as gimmicky as possible so that the best strat wasn't just 5 vg mly even tho it still kinda is
Caught in 4K by mod in #help ? 
i wonder in which sss mizuki is particularly good 
i used him in SN SSS
or why, is it the damage?
s1 is pretty good
with sp gen from 5 vg
he basically procs s1 almost every atk
i see 
i dont think hes that good tho
i think he's fine but like the lowest of the solo carries
for current SSS but hes definitely useable
just dodge š£ļø
i actually prefer playing the laterano one, the sn one can be stressful on hard mode 
He can only handle flying objects
mlynar requires a long preparation time,
hm personally i havent found mizuki dying except for the laterano SSS
Nah you can just slap 5 vanguards on moynar and he just works
Or 4 vgs 1 guard
what?
He doesnt need full trait charge to kill everything
He can even kill the defense crushers with like 3k base def in previous mama johns tower with 5 vg setup
Vg alr buff his attack too anyway
??? We're talking SSS no?

Mf walked into the wrong conversation
I chose the Guards
I only reached 780
The highest score for the Guards is 820, and I'm still 40 points short.
me as a new player struggling to hit 320
Also quick question about the CC, Iām trying to do the shadow of withering node and found out surtr doesnāt target air units whatās a operator with really high anti-air dps
personally i used poze to nuke them
Oh I was thinking of borrowing this operator, I very likely donāt have it
are you borrowing surtr currently?
I did borrow surtr yes
Um. . . . .
I can swap her out, since I can hold all the other lanes with no issue, the only issue is killing the withering disciple
Invis is only a slight issue because Iām using a lvl 1 scene to reveal
or just leak the drones
O right I can do that
idk what ur planning to do anyway
Well Iāll try using chen and if that fails they leak anyway
If you could deal with leaked drones and cars
Then I recommend Ch'en the Holungday
Epic thanks for the suggestions
Does it loiter around there?
Wait a moment I thought it passed over the elevated tiles near the right
The first drone loop once
Righto thanks again
Oh these are the only tags Iām missing, so Iām only doing these for now
i really want to kill the collectors just for the sake of it leaking will be the backup plan 
scene reveals air?
It does for me
You can actuall kill drones with mlynar within ely s2 duration (a mere 7,5 seconds)
borrow mlynar then
Whoās ely?
elysium
I donāt have either ely or mylnar so I can only borrow one of them XD
Ofc you need to somehow get rid of the seeds so mlynar damage doesnt just fucking disappear and even then you still need shamare doll or some shit
Because the drones have fucking 1k+ def???
Ifrit is a much comfier option
No need
That being said since invis isnāt a problem I can probably borrow mylnar and use my own goldenglow + virtuosa on the collecter
mylnar has very high hps
Itās just that you canāt deal with two planes at once
You just need to ask mylnar to read more newspapers
lol
Iāll give it a shot and let you all know how it goes 
oh virt is rly good
scene reveals but
ig you can just wait for them to make their laps and kill them on the bottom
ye
but then the hardest part is done so you could've just not taken 1 seal risk and leaked them
Congratulations
i restarted three times because I have negative IQ and lost my perfumer and virtuosa to seeds
Who?
The flame on the right?
The tile that starts burning?
Nono
Only these modifiers
(Old screenshot, itās completed too now)
restarting is nornmal in events like these
Are you a member of the Guards?
nope, i picked guards/snipers ban cuz it's very hard for me, cant optimize.
i tried in 4 days and gave up
it'd be a bit easier if i use the leaking strat
LOL
Then I can't help you
I'm a Guards player.
But if you want to use close guard to complete
I can help you
no bagpipe 
Can you make up the lineup in my picture?
i dont have Ines/Bagpipe/Uncle so a big no
Hahaha
and chetto
What other warlocks and supports do you have?
dont worry man, i almost have it, just need to fix redeployments
i feel deja vu
what?
When does cc end
I don't know, lol
tomorrow
My biggest regret is not reaching 800
Cantabile level is not enough
I can't handle the elite warlock at the start
As in the next daily reset or the one after that?
guys, can anyone lend me a suzuran with s3 3nd skill?
No mod will do? Svbb#2321
will do
lol
sent
I do but I'm in China
Guys how to beat SV-6
I want to play the whole thing to get max pot for little gladdy
like this
mushrooms are easy to use and don't grief your team
looks solid
can u buff the fart bomb in IS investigation
gang who do i upgrade now? currently at 7-14
if you do, save and maybe prefarm stuff other than manganese (if she even uses it)
if not, bassline looks like a solid one
yes
well i posted above
I always knew you are the best helper
sorry magna sorry crom sorry hauck š
what about me
there's no room for you in the comment
in the same vein as there's no room for you in any apartment
Uhh. can you help me again? for your strategies. I only got a problem with the last 2 car. my hoshi can't hold it long enough and it's also kinda rng too. sometimes she can hold for like 2 mins. sometimes only 15 secs after last drone go into blue box. I'm not sure if mine lv is too low but I already got her to lv 80. or maybe it's Irene lv 60 that cause a problem but I still can't get it
Can I borrow someone's Hoshi, I I'm close to clearing 600 but I need mod y
nvm I just got it. just notice that there's an unnecessary risk that add 800 def to the car. disable it and risk goes down from 620 to 600 just enough for the medal
does lv matter? I've mod y lv3 but only lv 80
added
U dont want trimmed ?
best way to grind IS points other than winning the run?
Just play it until you don't have to anymore 
Im backtracking the first IS and with the maxed og big trio is super ez
Sorry if itās too late, but seems like your problem was that hoshi is mod y, mod x is better to tank the cars
do you guys know how to kill the 2nd car with this setup?
Surtr will be ready in time the car gets into the map
my main problem is the little bladies murder her HP before I could use her skill...
support unit is ines
Gonna have to bait I would say. Are you using Ines and beanstalk to solo the right side?
Need 620 to trimm tho
yeah ines and beanstalk can handle the right side
I've tried baiting with all the vanguards down there but it ain't enough lol
:c
mainly in the square between the two red boxes
i'd be placing surtr there too
Do you have other units?
borrow someone for that car, which tags are you using?
You want to leak the drones right?
I was borrowing ines already :c
yeah'
gimme a sec i'll ss the tags
The problem is that is too much seeds to bait?
605 total I just want the complete medal set lol
no need for trimmed
my surtr can't handle trimmed :C
yeah
so surtr ends up activating her immortality passive before her skill
I needed the last wild weeds tag to get 600+ for the medal so ines is needed for the leftside
caper and beanstalk can't handle the left side with that tag on
hmm let me try something
yessir
surtr is e2 50 s3m2
i just got her a few days ago so she isnt the best
full squad
all the vanguards are for baiting when things go wrong
Do you have any doolkeeper? Even level 1 they can bait the seeds two times by changing
specialists and casters are banned
what's a dollkeeper
well uhh
probably not
Forget it, thwy are specialists too
oh right
Is lapland ready by the end? Maybe you can kill some seeds with her before they reach sutr
If you could redeploy kroos/archeto to do this job would be nice too
yeah she should be but idk where to position her
cheeto and kroos aren't re deployable sadly since kroos need to abuse cheeto's sp regen
Where are you placing sutr too kill the second car?
between the two red boxes
You mean at the left top?
yes
Maybe here facing top or right, dont know if lappland will have enough dps tho, but am working with what we have
i think i might need to retreat caper at the top tho is that alright
If the dps is enough they wont reach her but just trying to see
Ah you mean you wont have deployment limit
Maybe deploy mountain too
contain the enemies right after sutr does her job
Or/and try to save cheeto skill for that momment, so she can handle this side by herself for some time (dont know if you are using a manual skill tho)
yeah I'm using her S2
._.
am still not sure about that since both of the withering things will be where I place surtr when the car arrives
damn is this rough lol
I have Saria as well maybe the she could stall the car?
It doesn't have the massive def or atk up
oh wait wrong tags š
oops
I'm taking the one that adds another fireball caster and only 2 car buffs
kinda scared the revealing thing would kill cheeto and kroos if i were to stall tho
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Old Strat (Mlynar + Surtr):
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uhh
actually lemme cook
i can't think of another tag combo with 600/605 without needed the last wild weeds tag though
caper and beanstalk can't handle the right side with that tag
caper is needed to weed out more seeds from what I can see
maybe i just need more snipers lol
Would probally be the best answer tbh, the seeds are very squish so probally anyone would work
irl sanity is running low tho
ill just settle for 8 medals unless someone handholds me i guess
mf been playing cc for 6 hours straight and accomplished nothing
That is why i never let it for the last day 
I only got surtr a few days ago :c
no mats as a new player
I will get my revenge in ccb2
For a new player you did well 
have you sent your whole squad?
see if i can cook smth up for you
no m3?
no m3
i haven't leveled up my training room
i only need 600 points anyway
605 total?
yes
its the easiest combination i've found so far that my monke brain could think of
wait what's stopping the fire from spreading beyond two tiles
the summon from the tactician vg
other objects work too, like mines from trap masters or support devices from artificers
...maybe I pull out my e0 lvl 1 stainless for this
hypothetically speaking,
if I don't get the medals this time around
will cc1 come back
and will I have a chance to get the medals then?
no

suffering
Wdym, you'll get kicked out of the server if you dont pass the seasonal trimmed medal check
I'm getting skill issued too hard, none of my snipers are e2, and the guide I'm following needs a beanstalk AND a surtr (I have neither)
Cant you replace beanstalk with another tactivian
that's the fun part, I have no tacticians wait I forgot about vigil
unless it's the guide that needs beanstalk as solo blocker but ew
Vigil
didn't we just had siracusano
another issue is that the tactician needs to be strong enough to act as a sniper
my vigil is lvl 1
because crippling LMD shortage
yeah I probably could use vigil too, though you are right I would need a built beanstalk anyways if I used her
depending on how shit your roster is
you really don't need levels on tactician
same thing with stainless technically but idk where you would put him
probably a safe tile somewhere
They didnt use a trapper instead?
I need the tactician to block the flames but also to shoot at the guys on the right side lane
cause you just use it to block a fire
what's the website that lets you showcase your team layout on a stage? I could probably use that to show you what my previous attempt was
Check pins
tyty
this is what my field ends up looking like, except I can't put kroos down because deployment limit of 5
if my vigil was stronger I could switch out platinum and stainless for him
stainless robot goes right under arturia virtuosa to block the fire
if you have bp's mod then just place her on the rile above the red box
she could solo the right side
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620 possible with this team?
try speccas borrow ines
eyja left
try ines reedalt right
texas for the cars
gg to help dps
speccas?
and is there any video to give me some idea
I can hop on vc too if that's fine with you
just place 2 flags
right
then retreat after u got enough dp
alright. I'll try now
doesn't work, I can't get enough dp in time for eyja and gg to start doing damage
you donāt have canta or puzzle?
I wish I did
i see flametail there, can start with that, blocking the first one
I have the -1 block tag so they'll go right through
flametail is 2 block
I'll try
+1 block on s3 too
one shot by the flame guy
I'd rather take -90% sp over flame soldier risk
or that's just my sniper bias talking
what tags did you choose?
caster spec gotta go glass cannon
those risks mean you can't even afford to block
get the mid tier dp risk and add the extra hits for ember guys
I tried the stalling way but my hoshi dies because my healers aren't well made I can either borrow eyja or ines
I'd recommend sniper core, but missing both Suzu and Surt is 
it'd be piece of cake on my main
I have all the snipers and everyone else
doing this on my gf's account for her
wait i just noticed you have texas and yato
why you donāt kill them with that
the flame fellas?
no, arenāt you having problems with the first enemies going to blue box?
yup
I tried texas with them
failed
either she dies from the fireball or they leak
thatās impossible
hmm try to time it well, deploy them on reed tiles, they canāt get hit by fireballs because 0 block
just when they approaching, yato should be better because she returns more dp
I'll try that. same tags from the screenshot, right?
tho it'll be heaven send if you can ss me tags according to my team
I've watched every guide video on youtube
the lack of good vanguards and snipers really hurt the strat
If u have eyjalter u can actually use afk strat
I don't 
Ur box is pretty stacked should be doable for 620. Just with more micro manage
mate I've been trying for 6 hours 
either my hoshi dies or I can't handle the left lane because no dp
yes theyāre right
well the swamp rover wipes everything
try afk strat
you actually got most of the units
try this @tame wraith
you kill the evocator with mlynar and stall cars, later you add thorns and chongyue to finish them
borrow ines or canta for more dp at the beginning
mudrock died when I tried holding left lane with her and my shinning let's hoshi die
yes, for stall strat you have to pick hp up instead atk up for enemy stats
I'll try that
actually borrow penance mudrock is going to die
she fits better in the glass cannon route,
another thing that i noticed is that you should deploy a temporary defender first for right side, then deploy shining+thorns and when you can replace that defender with hoshi, that way she baits all the seeds when blocking
are you sure you donāt have canta or puzzle even at e1, otherwise will need to further increase enemy hp and take the mid tier dp risk
I can e1 puzzle
I feel like if I borrow penance I'll run into dp issues
yes, try that hopefully it works
I wonder if I use these tokens on her then buy her token
Would I be able to sell her extra token

Gonna do it
5 certs
please don't buy it right now
bibeak will he in shop
@tame wraith oh more things after testing, since youāre so limited with deployment slots dont deploy thorns and hoshi until you kill the evocator. here i did it with horn because i donāt have mylnar 
Which shop
Huh I thought only skins go to shops
do you mind streaming?
future events starting with shu will rerun cc units and free skins
Oh neat safe
We will still be able to buy from cc shop tho, right?
you will but just don't
There seems to be only bibeak who came in a shop
scene did as well
oh i said it already
cc ops doesn't give gold cert anyhow moot point
cc tokens also more limited
finally , not 720 after malding for 2 weeks š
I've tried everything now man I don't like this event
building puzzle didn't help at all
Used him in the 7 op tag
i tried and i lost
i know about both trying and losing
i somehow wiggled through the dp issue of p1 puzzle
but im losing my mind on eyja rng
and ifrit
if i dont borrow p5 ceobe
she needs lots of help to kill car and evoker
i can do it, but eyja and bagpipe rng is insane
What challenge r we doing here
860
Oh
i already know how to do gladiia cancel consistently now
only thing that fucks me is rng basically
is lumen close enough to be sub for ejya alter?
on low risks maybe
try it ig
both will be without skill
wait, how much was lumens initial sp
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Hi
I started last week and I am at 2-3
I am having hard time to perfect the stages without multiple retires
I don't know who to use or how much to level the heroes
Any help would be appreciated!
@tired grail @fiery marsh oh. Thx for telling me.
Seems so. Also it's kinda rng to. Idk why. Maybe the frame thingy?? I found it easier to play in x1 than x2 because it's more stable for my hoshi to survive it. But not sure if it really related
theres no frame thingy
hoshi talent has chance to dodge attacks
its prolly that if theres any hoshi rng
Oh that so
still need advice?
stages will be a lot easier if you upgrade your ops more, especially once you reach Elite 1 (E1)
lower rarity ops are way cheaper to upgrade so you can start with those ones (like Kroos, Spot, Melantha, etc)
Yes thanks
So for now its better to use 3*?
And is level 20 count as low and I should upgrade more? Because I don't have enough resources to upgrade more
NOO WHY THEY GAVE ME THE EXTRA FLOOR 
IT WAS GOOD 
I dont understand why mine exploads more than these guides
did you pick the ending 4 route accidentally or something
I dont even know that exist
The guide made it look easy with their mÅynar and nightingale 
ok that's funny, this has got to be the first time i saw someone walk into an IS ed4 by accident
which diff were you doing it on, since izumik is a hell of a pain in the ass tbh, if you can't beat it might be that you're playing on too much of a high difficulty for yourself
izumik is a pain on most diffs tbh
The 4 diff
that squad wouldn't be enough anw i think
Is that the reason the 4th floor exist
no
no, you get it through encounters and choosing certain options in them
you just went into the encounters with the ending options and path into it
people don't usually stumble into a different ending
I thought the knight was causing me the most pain, not until I met these spongebob sea creature thingy
that's ending 2
Man how much ending does this thing have anyway
HELL NAH, my 60 level account wouldn't be enough to conquer those extra 2
i mean you pathed into them
if you don't want to do ed3/4 just don't pick the collectibles that trigger them
you could just do ed1 forever
Aight I'll look which one does that, thanks for the advice
is 7-16 possible with this team?
chetto is levelled up and i just recently levelled up my ft and dont have lmd, could you help me beat 7-16 im getting clapped
was half joking because I i told you to level shit yesterday
you can hyhold the left and just borrow surtr for the boss
do like 2 mines for it, activate surtr= phase 2
then surtr phase 2 after surtr comes back
too used to people getting stuck on patriot
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1MZ4y1Z7gG if we go with the lowest effort for me
What is this garbage bruh
the downside is minimal tbh
not like people usually have all of the ursus girls
and it only really affects rosa and absinthe, the latter most wouldn't raise

im really struggling on 7-16 can anyone help me
it is a two blue block map how is penance supposed to carry
Penance solos left + all mortars
need to find someone with penance support i guess
Literally any dps can cover right
@cyan gorge do i place penance last?
Yes
how is my left side supposed to survive the dogs
Use a vg that can block
ft gotta cook
the crossbow men that come from the top cook my caster
Do you have any melee ops that can self heal?
unfortunately not
Not even Gummy? 
yeah i do have her but not levelled up
i have bassline but he cant kill top lane alone
You just need someone to kill the heralds
i die here
Put Bassline on Lapp spot, Lapp one tile down
oki
Why not have Flametail fight them, they have like 50 RES and well it is hard to say their def value because shits buff each other to infinity
i use flametail on beginning to get dp
Well she is ready to deploy, 70 DP. it seems to be e2 art so S3 go brrrr
yeah that worked i managed to leak two only thank god

thanks
Winning stage leakless means you won't need to return to that shit stage in future so it is advised 
Itās big waste of sanity to let a stage finish with leaks⦠try using practice plans or just ditch the run if you leak
I want to complete the IS 1 reward track, since the best way to level it up is just by winning run, is there a go2 way to easily win?
So far my strat is to play with the Tactical Assault squad so I can start the run with a maxed out Thorn and eventually get maxes Surtr and Silverash later...
Again the base boss (phantom) is kinda easy but I've reached several times the big bear (with scissors too) and I didn't got through once
I didn't beat big bullshit bear a single time. i got damn leaked him with 37 hp seals 
how tf I can reach 30+ hp 
Oh right bear farts globally every time it takes 20 hits
schw surtr ntrk silverash pozy
pozy is not what i would call a hard slow hitter but it can work
any burst is fine
i only ever really did bsl with melee comp though
farming is2 candles for me was just grab surtr ntrk spam end3 or end4 
HE CANT DO ENDING 3 WITHOUT BEAR WIN 
well just dont point thorns at the bear and things should be fine 
surtr good yeah
maybe borrow someone like schwarz or ntrk to start if you need more dmg
aoe healing good too
just cant take too long on the stage else boss will blow up and you insta lose if no 30+ hp
I have a good shwarts too, whos ntrk?
you need to kill the bear and not leak it to get to floor 6?
You need to do ending 2 to unlock ending 3. Floor 6 for ending 3 and 4 need you to fight floor 5 boss from ending 1 or 2 still without credit toward those ending We are not The Binding Of Isaac
ok so leaking is fine?
also does BSL regenerate HP while its shield is up
that sounds toxic if true
yeah i mean its not like ur penalized for it in is2
unlike the other ones
oh i meant 'will your ending 3/4 run forcibly end at floor 5 if you leak the boss instead of kill it'
BSl regen is permament unless you get relic. CD for shield still ticking WHILE SHIELD IS UP
FUCKING SHIT CAN APPLY SHIELD RIGHT AFTER YOU BREAK IT BECAUSE CD FUCKING RUN OUT
yes like any other battle, unless you have +30 life points for leaking it
oh i guess i didn't imply "you have >30 life points" well enough
yeah i figured, it would ruin my runs back in the day when my only e2 damager was kal'tsit
regen is super annoying, why is it there
For same reasons anything designed in this game - to F you over. And give challenge for malders to overcome
it's just not very fun and feels like it makes certain sets of relics impossible to clear with rather than hard and challenging
ngl thats every is ending 2
i tried ending 2 is4 and i got instantly bodied
actually i take it back i'm assuming they're designing this with 4* + no gacha operators play in mind which they clearly aren't
cuz its just a defender check
yeah is4 end2 is just 'do you have a protector defender and a pocket medic'
however, i think is4's better designed
any defender can work, even sa s2 
don't have a protector? then do end1 instead
is2 you don't get a choice
you commit at the start of the run and can't back out
i uh also think the is4 end2 boss is just really weird because of how stupid the intended strat is
'stall the boss where it spawns' is in the top 3 things you think of when you hear the boss' gimmick and that it unavoidably dashes 5 tiles three times
it has to be intentional, but if so, that's just very hilarious design (don't interact with the boss for 90% of the map unless maybe you're on high BN and need to activate medic skills, kill everyone else, then slowly grind the boss to death)
i really like eik as a boss, i think devs wanted caught off guard the players, especially if you play the game with no spoilers, i leaked it the first time because i blocked him when he was near the blue box because we usually set up all the ops around there and that was very funny imo
itās a tradition now that ending 2 bosses come with some troll mechanic 
and of course you can debuff that def during the run, but get ready to protect him when heās still at your side 
Defense: "Stop f- mlynaring everything"
what are you supposed to do about knight when you don't have 5k damage
yeah apparently ur not supposed to use corpus
use mr nothing and erato i guess and somehow kill the broodmothers
like for bsl you need to sacrifice some life points if you want that letter encounter and have fun if you donāt get the encounter and wasted your life points 
i mean how do you finally kill the dude
and now with have hoe too, his s2 is awesome against him but need more cc for a stable stall
its literally mr nothing and erato
you take 500 years to kill him but its a full afk
against knight
yeah that sounds like the opposite of fun
thats because you literally fall asleep
this is a d15 run btw 
is this hoe permastall wtf
phrasing
Who's the best to borrow in is2 and 3?
pozemka and texalter respectively
https://ibb.co/album/yB3ZVr, LT-6 on SSS how do i approach it? the one with the ice cream train
Why pozemka specificaly
And texalter to cllea rmobs or like, stun thr jellyfish so it falls into the hole at the end of basic ending?
Pozy is for ed1
Because phantom has dodge
And also because she is just good in general
And the stingray exist on literally every stage and is without fail one of the biggest threats if not dealt with quickly
the is2 ed1 boss has dodge
poze has dodge ignore
i am here on cirno's behalf to spread schwarz propaganda
watch the clip carefully 
every time he hits the knight, he gets stunned, while w and gnosis normal attacks tends to prioritize the other enemies moving, i do think tho that you need more than 1 cc source, hoe canāt do it alone
W stuns via her S2 mines, not autos
yeah but mines go to the enemies, thereās only 1 mine next to the boss
back when you posted it you said you had cc relics
the aoe hits him, it's big enough
so without hoed you could've just let knight go a bit further away(which he would do naturally)
the knight's splitboxed between the tiles
and then he would get stuned anyway
(that's assuming he wasn't stunned in your clip)
the mine needs to be right next to him, but anyway itās a teamwork, gnosis s2 is also helping in the stall, hoederer actually died in p1 because w and gnosis were attacking the other enemies
yes 1 one of them, thatās why i insist that you need more than one cc source to make it stable, like gnosis and texas, w added mainly the damage because she got the mom buff
i mean yh, ofc you need multiple ops to hold the stall
just correcting your part on the autos and in that vid where her mines are actually hitting him
yeah and watching again is pretty noticeable because the mines do 21k damage 
that w was not even mine, it was temp recruit
well you kinda just need mr nothing for phase 2 
but true, all other, inferior ops need help
i wouldnāt call an op inferior just because of that, for me itās cool to do comps that work better together, I just wanted to mention hoe as another option for the stall strat, besides the known one erato+mr. nothing
https://ibb.co/album/yB3ZVr,
anyone got some tips for my squad, idk how to set up early, i always end up being forced to rush and then my rotations go to shit from lack of dp or lack of supports. is this run doomed, do i have to restart
^ for SSS
is it hard mode?
uhhh i dont think so
i havent cleared it once, so if i can clear this it would be my first clear
like there is nothing that can tank the early waves without messing up my rotations, im either forced to use exec alter early with only 2-3 vg or i just die
yeah you have too many supporters this sss wants you to bring more defenders to stack block and stop the car
hmmm could you give me some advice on which of my roster i should use as carries for this? i just got back into arknights after like 2yr break
i tried atk spd gnosis but it fell off on last stage, until then it was actually rlly good
so like 3-4 sups, and the rest fodder guards/couple vg/fodder tanks? and just stake mud blaze mountain with guard/tanks?
you def want to borrow a good carry
hut yours are fine to stall for a bit/supplement ye
i think he got exalt then can borrow penance, but yeah bring mostly melee ops, defenders for penance and mud and vg for guards like exalt, you can still use gnosis with some snipers but as a supporter for melee damage
oh no wait that exalt is from supp, hmm i guess itās the best pick, then trust mud and another defender to block the car
okok ty i try that
i couldn't access the link you send before
but you probably can clear the map regardless if you brought your good ops, no need to retry
this was basically the link, i tried leaking boss but i just ended up getting overwhelmed
oh hm u might wanna bring a bit more defenders
too many supporters 
shoudl i am for 8 max?
8 supporters is fine
damn no dps
i had 10 LOL
feel like they're too much with only like 3 vg
yes big issue setting up





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