strategy

[hazy creek]

I gotta wait until 4- sth tho

[spark sinew]

idt they can get glue and chips from IS efficiently, i would rec to do 4* instead

[hazy creek]

I'm at 2-8 rn

[dark violet]

fair yeah. Hopefully getting perfumer early on

[hazy creek]

Is perfumer 6*

[dark violet]

she's 4*

[spark sinew]

if you didn't get anyone, i would probably just rush may

[dark violet]

a niche but really good healer

may is a good one

[dark violet]

I'm still using her as my only medic for most content, including end game

[spark sinew]

usual options are like cutter humus pinecone click but you don't have them

from the quick glance

[dark violet]

there's haze, but it's eh

[hazy creek]

Aren't there better 6* ones

[dark violet]

may might be more useful

[dark violet]

eyjalter is stronger, but perfumer is unique due to skill

she has perma regen on the whole map

so you can place ops outside of medic range

[hazy creek]

Wdym perma

[dark violet]

as in, constant regen

[hazy creek]

So when you put an op once in her range you can put it anywhere

[dark violet]

no, when she's placed, any op on the map will regen

[hazy creek]

How's she a 4*

[dark violet]

it's free

well, that's all she has

[umbral quarry]

It's not a lot of healing

[dark violet]

and somewhat low stats

but in the long run she's potent

[spark sinew]

the heal is small and usually almost never outheals actually scary styff

[dark violet]

it allows you to ignore a lot of the ranged mobs

of course it can't heal bad play

but her s2 can

[hazy creek]

Now that you mentioned ranged I hate those guys that can hit multiple ops

[vapid totem]

Btw @hazy creek you should try to increase the skill level of your most used operators to level 5 or 7 since some operators where their skills are more reliable than their stats

[dark violet]

especially the medic/vanguards

[hazy creek]

Which ones would you say

[spark sinew]

i thought the breakpoint was 4 and 7 usually?

which ones have breakpoint at 5

pushers pullers are 4

[hazy creek]

Can I do it rn or do I need to get stronger

[dark violet]

it depends on your mats

not a huge priority, just do when you have

[vapid totem]

Yes

[hazy creek]

Btw should I keep summoning for surtr

[spark sinew]

NO

[dark violet]

surtr is the OG mwynar

try to clear without support units

[spark sinew]

stop right this instant

[dark violet]

it will help make you do better strategy

[spark sinew]

is this why you have Sail

[hazy creek]

mwynar?

[dark violet]

the boogeyman

[spark sinew]

someone orian thinks is broken

[hazy creek]

Yes💀

[spark sinew]

meanwhile ines exists

[hazy creek]

Shouldn't have i

[dark violet]

well, it's not that you can't

but it's best not to, because it's too strong of a crutch

making you avoid important lessons to get better

[spark sinew]

yeah the banner is pretty ew

[hazy creek]

So then for who

[spark sinew]

wait for the one in a week

[hazy creek]

Why didn't anyone tell me sooner

[spark sinew]

you have plenty of stuff to raise

there's always reroll angle

[dark violet]

don't worry, there's no mistakes, only progress to pile on

[hazy creek]

I've probably done around 30 pulls

[spark sinew]

show your Base

[dark violet]

you can spare from now

[spark sinew]

did you level office or reception

[hazy creek]

I'm dumb and made 3 PP 💀

[spark sinew]

it's fine

just don't level right side at all (besides workshop)

[dark violet]

don't scare him with the base shenanigans yet

[hazy creek]

What should I do

[vivid rain]

Downgrade powerplant

[vapid totem]

Its still too early for him

[vivid rain]

Or upgrade the workshop idk

[spark sinew]

so he would permanently damage his acc?

stellar idea

[hazy creek]

Isn't it better to start sooner

[vivid rain]

It is

[spark sinew]

they're afraid of overloading you with info

but we're really dripfeeding it so it should be fine

[hazy creek]

I'm fine

[spark sinew]

just explaining

[hazy creek]

The only problem is I could forget some things

[vivid rain]

It’s fine you can just ask again

[hazy creek]

I read a whole LN in 1 week this is nothing

[vivid rain]

How many chapters

[dark violet]

tbh, it's not that major of a difference. I'm doing fine with it.

[vapid totem]

Keels that are needed to increase the numbers of floor in bases is hard to get unless you've built your ops

[vivid rain]

Which one

[dark violet]

I'd be more concerned about getting proviso early than caring about that

[spark sinew]

citation needed

[hazy creek]

Around 20

[spark sinew]

you're always damn near broke

[vivid rain]

Oh not that long then

[dark violet]

because I'm doing e2 to all my ops

[spark sinew]

those are wrong priorities imo

[hazy creek]

I usually don't read so it's a lot for me

Plus it has around 20k words in one chapter

[spark sinew]

you literally lose a big chunk of your income for the early-mid game if you fuck up your base

[vivid rain]

Yeah i read a lot funnily enough considering i skip all story cutscene in AK

[hazy creek]

Can you elaborate

[hazy creek]

Read what?

[spark sinew]

tldr right side buildings can't be downgraded and they're useless

[vivid rain]

Light novels and webnovels

[spark sinew]

so you want to use the power from them to level left side

[hazy creek]

Tbh experiencing a story while wanting to play a game is annoying and isn't for everybody

[vivid rain]

Also if you are early on you dont have to build training room

[vivid rain]

It’d be fine if each story isnt a fucking 30 mins long visual novel

[vapid totem]

You'll have to grind for the materials to upgrade your base rather than the materials for upgrading your OP's which takes some time

[spark sinew]

it doesn't help that reading ak is just painful

like text moves SO SLOWLY

and then if you double click it sometimes skips over

[hazy creek]

I would have done them story after story so I don't it would have been a big problem

[spark sinew]

it would have been
also would appreciate you not pinging me in replies

[hazy creek]

But if you upgrade your base wouldn't you get more materials so it's 50/50

[hazy creek]

Yeah

[dark violet]

they really need to adapt the text system for english characters

one day hopefully

[spark sinew]

oh is that why...

[hazy creek]

Fr you should be able to skip text when you read it

[dark violet]

base doesn't give materials, only LMD and xp records

[spark sinew]

so called publishers

[hazy creek]

Ok sorry

[spark sinew]

when they did nothing for EN version

[dark violet]

which is essential to level up, but not promotion/skills

[spark sinew]

we still have very long recruit lines as well

somehow in cn it even moves quicker

[dark violet]

yeah, that's normal

[vivid rain]

Ok so for right side buildings you just need to know the following:
Reception room functionally doesnt give you much after the first level, so you are recommended to keep it at that

Workshop needs to be max level to actually build the base

Office after level 1 is completely and utterly functionally worthless, do not upgrade it past level 1

Training room is good but you dont need it yet until you have gotten through a decent bit of progression (e2 and stuffs)

[dark violet]

CN has much fewer characters, while english has a ton, so the same character speed makes CN fast and EN slow

[spark sinew]

i think reception lvl2 is still fine in lategame but like

wait and see what HG cooked for base upgrade i suppose

[hazy creek]

Got it I'll screenshot this for later

[vivid rain]

Each sentence in CN is like 15-20 characters long but in EN it’s fucking hundreds

[dark violet]

beta base upgrade

[spark sinew]

reception/office

[spark sinew]

well the recruit text just moves faster

or my eyes deceive me

despite the lines being shorter

[vapid totem]

I also recommend on not using OP to buy base decorations, since it's one of the beginners trap

[vivid rain]

You dont seem to understand, keeping newbs reception room at level 1 means they cant clutter my support list with their goofy ahh e1 ops

[spark sinew]

just don't add newbs!

[vivid rain]

Give me clue 6 then and we can talk

[hazy creek]

Can I send you a friend request I have an idea

[vivid rain]

Sure my ign is Kertacx

[vapid totem]

You can look for other friends in #friend-id

[spark sinew]

did you add me

[dark violet]

lmao, now that's pro play

[vivid rain]

No and i dont plan to

[spark sinew]

good

[hazy creek]

What are your ign

[spark sinew]

i don't add people who ping me

[hazy creek]

Why

[vivid rain]

Blame discord for reseting the disable ping on reply every new message

[hazy creek]

It's just easier to understand who someone is talking to what is your problem with it

[dark violet]

some people just don't like it

[vivid rain]

Sometime it can add a notification icon that you cant remove for some reason so that might be it

[dark violet]

speaking of, degen breaker banner in a week

[hazy creek]

I just do it habitually

[dark violet]

I don't pay attention to it

unless I know the person doesn't want to

[hazy creek]

Can I add you btw

[dark violet]

me?

[hazy creek]

Yeah

[dark violet]

sure

I gotta finish my IS battle

well, you can send the invite already, name is the same as always

[hazy creek]

Sent

[dark violet]

eminem?

[spark sinew]

say his name

[dark violet]

you can get a taste of full power flametail when you get your first e2

[spark sinew]

damn he's gonna be disappointed

[dark violet]

also if you use gravel(+ your flametail), you'll have access to the funny nearl s2 option

although it's best not to abuse support

[modern copper]

I need a little help with 4.4

Specfically

They cross Bowers completely eliminate left side

Overthrow bassline

Makes me feel like bass should be on right but

Then boss would overwhelm

[smoky halo]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ki4y1N7wN/?p=2

yato (2star) solo

[modern copper]

BAHAHA I DIDI IT WITHOUT GUID...

...

...

:(

[smoky halo]

congrats

[scarlet mortar]

broken

[smoky halo]

so true

[elder flume]

Shift is fine
Explaining shift to someone in an exhaustive method is not fine

[smoky halo]

is there no article that explains shift in detail?

[elder flume]

Theyre old and not exhaustive and thus was the reason my part of the sheet was being made until someone named Mint appeared

[smoky halo]

ah understandable

[elder flume]

Shift calculation has also undergone through atleast 3 physics degree people formulas (theyre close but last time i checked it was general formula and not accounting how every shifter has their own shift distance) and its prob still going to be updated with whatever LL does

[civic bear]

its only as complex as you want it to be

in practice all the details just barely matter

[scarlet mortar]

how to shift

1. check weight
2. if not too heavy, shift
3. wee

[merry narwhal]

try this setup instead, nearly all of the enemies die without you having to do anything

i forgot one block -> Lappland's tile

the only enemies you have to kill are Clownslayer and the two big guys at the end (you can cheese them with more roadblocks)

[civic bear]

place in order left to right too iirc

[atomic mural]

what kind of specialist is Gladiia
is she a yeeter or a yoinker
like does she yeet enemies away from her or yoink them towards her

[tidal sedge]

Puller

[merry narwhal]

GET OVER HERE arhcetype

[vivid rain]

Gladiia is a guard operator

[dark violet]

she's a washing machine

[vernal lion]

she's the main core of AH

[lethal dragon]

She is an operator

[merry narwhal]

she's a less cute Mint

[lethal dragon]

Cool mint*

[dark violet]

she's a fresher mint

you don't want your fish to be stale

[scarlet mortar]

did you know that mint does not in fact pull

[smoky halo]

i mean is there a difference between backwards push and pull?

[scarlet mortar]

in the physics, yh

[smoky halo]

damn

[scarlet mortar]

tldr the travel lengths are different for the same force

[smoky halo]

shift so hard

[long lotus]

How different are they?

[scarlet mortar]

this is for pushing

this is for pulling

[violet heron]

wait what

[scarlet mortar]

her pulls are less pulls and more concentric pushes

[civic bear]

pulls inherently a bitbroken so

balancing act

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41ZZdFEL_Kw

now that is powercreep

[dark violet]

where bibeak

scam

[vernal lion]

I like how much different between 5 star and 6 star

[dark violet]

I'm gonna go crazy with 6 AH

and next year andrealter for 7

[elder flume]

Mint is technically a pull but because it doesnt follow the general 4 second rule it skews the numbers into approaching push numbers which is why its easier to calculate her shift as a push
also because she doesnt get hit by velocity stop circle

[dim marlin]

Can anybody help with CC1?

I'm dead struggling

[smoky halo]

what are you aiming for

[dim marlin]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F_pfUUc-lVnLvKfwhekokFiLA4iWIlu_/view?usp=sharing

https://youtu.be/G0QgG_c1rvI?si=ZH3pmuw57meY7hzf&t=494

I'm just following this strat

[dim marlin]

My gameplay

[smoky halo]

840

[dim marlin]

But the last 2 flying ships I cannot handle them no matter what

[smoky halo]

are you doing 840 too

i ain't downloading that file

my internet sucks

cause that clear relies on ifrit talent rng lmao

[dim marlin]

I decreased the risk to 730

[smoky halo]

are you taking atk down?

[dim marlin]

Yes

Just throw away "Cost generate speed" and "Redeploy time"

[smoky halo]

ah

well that clear relies on ifrit talent rng

so lol mald the rng

since u have the same dmg as that clear

u need to mald ifrit rng too

[dim marlin]

god rng isn't blessing me

[smoky halo]

have fun

[dim marlin]

The last part in the vid, when deploying those "Ines, Texalter, Texas", it does not required timing right? Main purpose's just baiting the flying stuffs and stun the 2 ships

[smoky halo]

yup seems like its just there so ceobe doesnt get distracted

[dim marlin]

kay thanks for the explanation

[turbid badge]

Or just get ifrit pot

[smoky halo]

surely

[civic bear]

retreat ines a lil later

ines need to hit here

binds the drone

you dont have p5 virtousa

so you need that 5s bind

that way when you redeploy you actually gain 10s bind total under virt

and at the end there

dont use eyja

eyja best roll 20 sp takes 50s

by then drone wouldve been inside

ceobe deals way more damage

thats about it

a lot of the damage comes when drone are inside ifrit range and hit by ceobe

when watching guide pay attention to what happens to the enemy too isntead of just what you're suppoed to do

[reef iris]

Can anyone help me build like a main team? And who should I focus on building?? I know my thorns is over levelled compared to my other operators

[peak cloak]

at the beginning, pls make sure u do tutorial stages carefully

(hopefully u did)

[reef iris]

I did. But I forget them easily. KyostinV is the best tutorial I need 🙂

But still don't know how to build my team and operators

[split geode]

Myrtle will always be one of the best operators you could build

Try to focus more on your damage, the more damage you do the less healing/tanking you have to do.

so in the early stages healers and defenders shouldn't be a priority

[vivid rain]

Btw just a heads up

Dont e2 myrtle

In fact, dont even raise her past e1 lv1 sl7 unless you suddenly need her to block something

[mighty pagoda]

passive healing is pretty good

and people recommend e2 her for ez e2 support

but he could also e2 thorns

[lusty basin]

there are like 15 better 4* for that

[spark sinew]

just e2 cutter here

[lusty basin]

yea

[spark sinew]

(also maybe don't invest into all 5* you have)

higher rarity is not necessarily better here

investment wise at least

(even if i argue that 6* are quite better so they can be worth that cost)

[lusty basin]

kroos will also be better for you than april or jess, but april is prolly fine if you like her enough

[spark sinew]

i think they just invested into every high rarity

cause who would like april

since in most gachas higher rarity = better (not necessarily false in this one, but still)

[lusty basin]

hehe indeed

[spark sinew]

that's the opposite, no

early stages HEAVILY shill defenders and aoe

[peak cloak]

i would go touch grass than recommending someone to e2 Myrtle

[spark sinew]

and you actually can tank

[lusty basin]

also @reef iris you're gonna get a lot more 4*/5* in the next few weeks so don't sweat decisions too much now

[spark sinew]

moreover you can't exactly "nuke" stuff early on anyway

[lusty basin]

and congrats on thorns c:

[mighty pagoda]

just e2 thorns and he will carry you

[reef iris]

Uhh why n how?

[mighty pagoda]

[reef iris]

I like to do funny stuff like making the enemies keep on damaging my healer and the healer just heals it back instantly. It kinda stalls them. And also I noticed that taunt tanking isn't a thing in this game?

[lusty basin]

there are 45 4* on banners (fewer available via recruitment) and you pull one 50% of the time
you wind up with almost all of them very quickly

[spark sinew]

enemies prioritize last deployed unit

[spark sinew]

please don't do stuff like that, horrible habit
just deploy tank last

[reef iris]

Ah ok

[vivid rain]

The thing you are doing is called medic stall, which is one of the few methods of perma stalling but it’s rarely viable
Also yeah taunt tanking exist

[lusty basin]

+/- taunt levels do exist on some ops/mechanics but pretend they don't exist for now c:

[peak cloak]

that's why i told u to do tutorial stages carefully

[spark sinew]

certain units do have taunt
certain enemies also ignore taunt etc, but it's not really relevant rn ye

[reef iris]

Ummmmmmmmmm.....KyostinV helps..... And also other people's support units..... (I'm probably the dumbest dokutah)

[spark sinew]

it goes from unique priority>taunt>last deployed>negative taunt

[vivid rain]

There are worse players but that’s not something you should be comforted by

[spark sinew]

this chat is ruthless, damn

[vivid rain]

In fact, you should be ashamed due to your proximity with that group of mindless whalers

Fucking pequod crewmembers

[lusty basin]

at any rate the game makes sure you damn well understand prio by the end of ep. 5 and Lungmen Downtown annihilation so those are the trials by fire

[spark sinew]

you do should rush annis though

anni 1 should be 400 with that squad probably (with like leveling shaw and defenders, if even)

then probably do whatever you can anni2 and raise base workers

[reef iris]

So... Does my acc look bad and how should I fix it???

[vivid rain]

Most early base workers also happened to be pretty solid early on too so that’s two birds with one stone

[spark sinew]

it does and you should

yeah the base workers would've been stronger than this pile of 5*

not a big loss in any case though

[vivid rain]

Also raise kroos and stop raising april/jessica

[mighty pagoda]

having 2 snipers is good anyway

[lusty basin]

like I said be patient

wait for more 4*

[vivid rain]

Oh btw raise steward

He is better than amiya

[reef iris]

But without raising my operators how do i clear stages ?

[spark sinew]

raise good operators

basically stop leveling all 5* for now

[lusty basin]

easiest way is raise 3* like kert said

[spark sinew]

someone can probably link you an image of base workers

[lusty basin]

kroos and steward are very solid dps

[reef iris]

Ok

[vivid rain]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/vYD7WJfP9kz154YZfMlInDzTfG7lqph9B9NxbW-PSUc/https/i.imgur.com/MVtzwwD.png

[lusty basin]

spot is prolly the best tank you can raise now

and good in base

[spark sinew]

you 100% want to raise defenders
is this beagle angle

[lusty basin]

ngl I have zero clue whether cardigan or beagle is a better general tank

[vivid rain]

Cardigan is better early on

Spot beats both

[lusty basin]

cardigan for dos skin flex

[vivid rain]

Cardigan to mald is4

[spark sinew]

i'd vote beagle

idt cardi is better in is4

cardi is also headhunt only anyway

so it's likely they won't have her

[vivid rain]

Yeah they dont apparently

They do have spot tho

[spark sinew]

you want 2 defenders at the very least anyway

[vivid rain]

True

[lusty basin]

at any rate excellent chance you pull cuora or bubble in the near future (both 4* protectors)

[spark sinew]

because newbies (outside of using ling) are either "borrow typhon/mlynar depending on content" - encourages stalling with defenders

[reef iris]

I tried mlynar but uhh he just stands there for some reason?

[mighty pagoda]

he only attacks with skill active

[spark sinew]

not relevant for you still, only becomes better than ling when you have better squad and e2

[mighty pagoda]

but he have extremely high damage

[peak cloak]

Kyostin wont solve a person's skill issues

[mighty pagoda]

also he needs skill 3

and you wont have it without e2 in your squad

[ocean ether]

is this the customary newbie "I tried mlynar and he dosen't do anything, he is shit"?

[spark sinew]

we all had skill issues

you guys are talking as if the only way to overcome them wasn't just playing more

[reef iris]

I know he's gud at something but just didn't know the particular 'something '

[ocean ether]

he needs E2 and skill activated

[reef iris]

Yep know that now

[spark sinew]

you basically stack enemies and delete them with skill

rinse and repeat

[mighty pagoda]

if you e2 thorns he will hard carry you

[ocean ether]

newbie better off with typhon because she just dosent give a shit

[mighty pagoda]

he can tank and heal himself

[ocean ether]

just wait a short while, turn on skill twice and then AFK

[spark sinew]

typhon for anni3 but for the rest just ling it

it will also help them more than typhon

because newbie who only used to borrowing typhon will eat shit when she won't oneshot everything

[ocean ether]

newbie shouldn't borrow unless absolutely neccesary tbh

theres low rarity guides for a reason, things get explained there

[spark sinew]

i can see your point but like

[ocean ether]

skipping that and borrow a carry to clear is the absolute worst decision to make

[spark sinew]

rushing for base is valid

[mighty pagoda]

she should oneshot even without skill early maps

[spark sinew]

rushing annis is essential

rushing story is a good idea in the event downtime

[reef iris]

But I feel like just copying other's is kinda boring tho and that I'm not actually playing the game myself so I watch KyostinV when I'm really struggling

[ocean ether]

newbie without a single E2 borrowing ling wouldn't make a difference

[spark sinew]

bad choice of words perhaps
basically when she stops solo carrying the maps

obviously the context is also in rushing e2

[ocean ether]

you watch guides and use your own units, like your own 5 stars and 6 stars

[spark sinew]

e1 borrows are like kal or mountain (or ig typhon, since you want me to say it)

[ocean ether]

you mainly watch to see how people do things and hear their explanations on why they do it that way

[mighty pagoda]

executor alter can probably also carry early maps

[ocean ether]

even humus can carry early maps

[mighty pagoda]

i dont think i even have him

[reef iris]

Alright Thx everyone

[ocean ether]

isnt he a 4 star reaper?

[mighty pagoda]

he is

anyways you will probably not borrow 4*

also executor alter big damage

and auto use skill 1

braindead gaming

[ocean ether]

newbie starting on degen banner will be more braindead gaming

Or even worse, walter

[mighty pagoda]

walter tank and dps in one

[turbid badge]

Hi hauckdinu

[vivid rain]

Walter rot cn dalaos’ brain so hard they had to make the 11-20 adverse challenge

[turbid badge]

4* can be hard to get honestly the 4* roster includes a lot now

[spark sinew]

hi

[turbid badge]

Why u x me

[spark sinew]

feel free to add me any time

[turbid badge]

I saw

would u like April s2m3

Guess what?

It is only missing one potebtial

[vivid rain]

Wait can u add me

Im trying to clear map 4 with only 1 dp tag

April just happened to be the perfect person for the job

[turbid badge]

[turbid badge]

What is tags

My April is e0

[vivid rain]

Oh

Bleugh

[turbid badge]

||Jk||

[vivid rain]

It means i clear map 4 max risk with only 50 dp

Or 52 with texas vg

[turbid badge]

Where is tag

[vivid rain]

Kertacx

[turbid badge]

I added

[latent monolith]

I can't seem to access arkrec through http://118.193.34.223/ anymore has it changed

[smoky halo]

wiki.arkrec.com

[latent monolith]

nice

[turbid badge]

Now you have 10 minute timer

[vivid rain]

Thanks ily

[spark sinew]

old one is back

or well, "old"

[latent monolith]

and for english?

[smoky halo]

same link

but some stuff is missing

[spark sinew]

should be back

[smoky halo]

idk i cant find pyrolysis there

maybe im just blind

[copper comet]

Video link is not allowed here right?

[latent monolith]

https://wiki.arkrec.com/operation/Phase1+灰烬泽地

it is allowed if it's relevant

[smoky halo]

depends on the context

random video isnt allowed

[latent monolith]

ye

[smoky halo]

but if its related to the topic then sure

[copper comet]

Cc stage 4 clear

[smoky halo]

are you asking for help?

or just sharing ur clear

[copper comet]

Just did it

[smoky halo]

cause if ur just sharing ur clear its also not allowed

[copper comet]

Yes

[copper comet]

Ok

[latent monolith]

Oh I just had to remove the hosts file entry

[smoky halo]

i cleared cache before it worked ya

[latent monolith]

anyways we're back

Have there been clears above 860 yet?

[smoky halo]

theres the 880risk clear

i think that guy just has a really good gaming chair

[vivid rain]

Who is the strongest laneholder with less than 34 dp

I have 33 dp to spare

[latent monolith]

in en prob exalt but depends on where they're going

lin my favourite enemy invalidator

can effectively "hold" a lane based on the enemies there

[vivid rain]

Uh guard/specialist dp cost are double

[latent monolith]

what are your current positions

[vivid rain]

Max risk map 4 with 50 dp max

52 with texas vg

[spark sinew]

what exactly are you holding

[smoky halo]

zuole

[spark sinew]

pallas is 34 dp exactly

or less with pots

chong is here obv

chong is 22

[vivid rain]

The possesed defender, junkman and soldier

[spark sinew]

can get someone else to spare

[vivid rain]

Wait i can try with goldenglow

[spark sinew]

that sure is a laneholder...

kal is 30

[smoky halo]

gg is a laneholder ur just not a believer smh

[spark sinew]

gg barely holds herself together

let alone a lane

[smoky halo]

[vivid rain]

Oh no i mean gg can help with laneholding a bit since main threat to my strat are defenders

Maybe april to kill first possesed then blemi lanehold while gg kill the sniper and the other possessed

Nvm GG is dogshit she deals fucking piss damage here

[civic bear]

dusk s3

[modern copper]

how would top left corner spawner get to middle left side

[modern copper]

oh wait i see it now

youve done the same thing as me of putting the enemies on two originum tiles in their path

but youve used it on both routes instead of making just one absurdly long

smart

i should consider both routes next time i do something like this

[lapis hornet]

wow arkrec's back pogu

next you're gonna tell me viktor's back too

[pallid veldt]

Viktor never back

[zealous cradle]

viktor was never up to begin with

[modern copper]

Help better ranged chip stage

I have silent and caper on the left rushed to delete the drones

I have lappy silencing the defender drone on the right and may taking them out while she does that

There's an alternative route where I spawn xqc on bottom right for drones

In that scenario I have lappychan on middle for support

I keep getting overwhelmed by drones before I can place aoe

[vocal leaf]

borrow reedalt and win

[modern copper]

My AUTODEPLOY THO

I have firewatch, useful in this scenario?

[spark sinew]

only 1 st medic is ouch

easiest braindead way is just medic- sniper for both sides

snipers are on the anti air tiles

I'm curious why you're getting overwhelmed

like the stage doesn't need aoe

so not putting down say lava is fine

[vocal leaf]

after playing it with lower rarity aoe is actually useful cause drones comes in groups, well i use reed eyja and pass to farm that stage

[vocal leaf]

try something like this

[spark sinew]

i struggle to imagine lava doing much

[vocal leaf]

yeah lava surely not the best

aoe casters just being… like always

[spark sinew]

that's why you should raise shira for base

insane value!

[vocal leaf]

yeah and shira s2 actually makes her a better aoe caster than aoe casters themselves

[weak gazelle]

yeah the irony

[modern copper]

WHAT

I THOUGHT SHIRA WAS BAD

[spark sinew]

she's must raise e1 1 for new accs but idk about raising much higher

hut she's alright

[modern mural]

Executor alter solos the top right in today's cc rotating map

[green pendant]

does this seem doable for 11-20 Adverse y'all?

[foggy grove]

ceobe

i sleep

[green pendant]

oh hey, pretty simple

[atomic mural]

Guys SV-6 is being a pain in the ass 😭

[radiant dune]

what's the issue ur having with it?

[green pendant]

what might be the problem?

[atomic mural]

Whatever kind of ops I place an enemy will leak

[green pendant]

show us your team composition

[green pendant]

well this team is surely one of a kind

you may want to ask ppl in #help chat for supports, it seem a bit more active over there

[radiant dune]

consider maybe not using feater and adding another defender instead

[atomic mural]

Uhh I don’t have another defender besides liskarm

And am using kaltsit for support because monst3r

[radiant dune]

like none at all? not even like spot or something?

also kal might not be the best support for ya ngl, she's fine but with simple laneholding something like mountain might serve you better

[atomic mural]

Okay

What medic do you recommend me to use a support then

Because 1 medic is not enough to heal my ops

[radiant dune]

generally you don't want to use your one support slot as a medic, just two of your own usually will be fine

assuming you have him, ansel is cheap to raise and can handle healing early on quite well

[atomic mural]

But I don’t have any good medic other than Eyja alt

[atomic mural]

I have Ansel

[vocal leaf]

where cuora, gummy, bubble, matterhorn? beagle, cardi, spot?

[radiant dune]

okay so looking at the stage, I have a feeling its the pocket sea crawlers that are getting you, you can probably deal enough dps to deal with the middle without them with that team, just maybe add some more defenders and stall around the outside to prevent them from reaching the middle, they won't punch through your defenders easily as they only pop their skill when they're damaged and a solo defender won't do much to em

[worldly stirrup]

Just borrow ines smh
And spawn kill them

[atomic mural]

Guys what do I do for SV-6

The deep sea sliders keep bypassing my line of defense

[vital arrow]

You need more levels

You dont expect an E0 team to get past SV6 breezily

Also, half your team members are like

Bad

Dont slot in *5s and 6s randomly because theyre shiny high rarities

[atomic mural]

Those are my main DPS stuff

[vital arrow]

Those are not dps

Follow /teambuilding in #bot-spam

Its clearly just a ragtag of 5s and 6s because theyre gold and yellow

[glass monolith]

Power of units come from their talent and skills, without promotions high rarity have neither, and it is easier to build 3* and 4* rarity.
Also Swire alter consumes 3 DP per 3 second while on field which is uh... all of natural generation of it. If you need cheap bait - Gravel is common from Fast-redeploy / specialist recruitment.

[spark sinew]

like 4 different people told them as such

somehow those look like a different ragtag group already...

[rose pine]

Can anyone teach me some strategy for beginner? My current strategy just deploy when enough point and undeploy when that unit not useful for current combat anymore

[tidal sedge]

based on the stages

learn by mistakes

not really a specific one

but need to understand well operator's skills, branch and talent

[glass monolith]

Always according to situation. General order for me is something like: Vanguards to start getting DP as soon as possible and block early enemies (assuming they don't 1v1 vanguards). If needed medics for vanguards to survive, otherwise other operators to kill stage threats - Marksmen (Focus drone above all) Snipers (Like Kroos) if low def drones or enemies, Casters if high def drones or high def enemies etc. Defenders if enemy need to be blocked. Guards/Supporters/Specialists come in much flavors so it will take wall of text for them

[spark sinew]

^ early on you don't have much choice to typical vang into ranged into medics into defenders is good

[atomic mural]

Nah I cooked I got Gladiia

[spark sinew]

you can skip vanguards on a lot of stages though, and oftentimes they're a bait

[atomic mural]

I don’t need FEater anymore

[spark sinew]

I've seen a lot of people burned with that so it's probably a good idea to keep in mind

[atomic mural]

Yea but she does big pp damage as a nuker

[spark sinew]

like Noir blocks 3, is tanky, and cheap

and natural dp generation is super good (so just stalling for it with a defender is very valid)

[vital arrow]

Who does big pp damage? Swire alt?

Lol, lmao even

[spark sinew]

honestly can be any of their unit maybe their standards for big pp are very low

[radiant dune]

tbh s2 does do quite respectable damage

[spark sinew]

she's e0

[vital arrow]

His is E0

Its just a powerstrike

[radiant dune]

yeah but it'll get there eventually lol

[vital arrow]

Eh no

[spark sinew]

maybe I'm jaded but i never really thought s2 did damage

[vital arrow]

S2m3 does respectable dmg

SL7 is pathetic

[spark sinew]

like it's ok (clearly, from all the low op performance) but it's st and janky

s3 is closest to the nuke but even then...

[radiant dune]

in theory s3 is good cuz like 1500% attack damage but also in 10 instances so it gets made irrelevant against high def which is sad

if they just made it scale the damage up with each charge like chongus s1 then it'd be great

[vital arrow]

1500% damage is not 10x150%

Its a glorified exy S3

[spark sinew]

it's supposed to be versatile tool that doesn't waste the overkill damage

it honestly is fine

although range extension by one tile would make it so so much nicer

not on the nuke but on the charge part

[radiant dune]

yeah tbh I'm like talkin off a single is4 run where I got her as a temp recruit so I'm legit just coping outta my mind rn, I agree she ain't the best but damn i love merchants and she felt at least better than jaye (most of the time)

[spark sinew]

she's very very strong in lowstep

well was

last i checked was quite a bit before walter

[vital arrow]

Lowstep once walter and logos dropped

[spark sinew]

what's Walter dps in lowstep

offskill*

she's strong and with camo but surely not that gamebreaking

[merry narwhal]

she's also strong off skill

her summons have stupidly high range and dps

[spice mortar]

Swalter my beloved

[spark sinew]

time to bully her

[spice mortar]

Noo

[peak cloak]

yes

[wicked viper]

around 2.2k dps with s1 (main target) + 194 art dps from 1 summon
around 1.35k dps without skill (main target), if 3 summon then 582 art dps

[spark sinew]

oh right i forgot s1 exists

[gray stone]

Holy fuck that's nearly Typhon S2

[manic pawn]

how to prevent this bullshit drone spawn right on exit?

idk what else i can do, obelisk spawn drone and after 0.1 sec it is on exit

[scarlet mortar]

-mspd like ines makes it move slower

(obviously)

so it'll spawn the last set a bit earlier

else either you oneshot the seeds or do the poor man's strat, i.e. pick a tag set that lets you tank a car to reveal an op in the reeds to bait

[manic pawn]

did it, placed Vigna on open square, so 2 out of 3 drones targeted her

[glass monolith]

Help me find what causes drone to slow and spawn inside blue box on this video
https://youtu.be/TPBkYicKMj4?si=cNt1Rg207xwrHSN7

[scarlet mortar]

uh no, without -mspd it'll spawn a set at the blue box

also i forgor abt that alternative

yh using a low atk defender to block a mook also works

[south sage]

Is April meta?

Trying to do max risk rotation without Hoshi and any meta ops.

[glass monolith]

Depends on your definition of meta but i doubt she has much use on main stage with whole enemy has eat ass amount of armor

[foggy grove]

she is not meta

[spark sinew]

"meta ops" is extremely vague term

i'd argue if you optimize strat enough, all ops in your team for that particular map are "meta"

[lethal dragon]

Tf

[turbid badge]

Marksmen meta real

Isn't area 31 map in the last map we had

Last cc

Poo

[drowsy jewel]

ye

maps got recycled from poo

[pure pasture]

So tell me how this is even possible. Someone solo 7-18 with a penance and nothing else. Is she really THAT good.

[peak cloak]

it was insane until i discovered a person named Lin 😂

i meam the thrower's tags

[smoky halo]

nah bro

the mines are that good

that u can solo with a bunch of ops

[peak cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/im-right-here-the-cabin-with-bert-kreischer-im-standing-right-here-look-at-me-hey-guys-gif-18821922

[pure pasture]

Well I can't seem to solo. I need some serious help.

[peak cloak]

but why solo?

u need to prove something to someone?

[smoky halo]

i mean 7-18 has a shit ton of solos

[cyan gorge]

Just bring a full squad

you lose nothing

[pure pasture]

Well ok I personally don't need to solo it but I need serious help tho

[cyan gorge]

mines solo phase 1 easily, phase 2 is just use any burst dps

[peak cloak]

if u wanted answer about penance is good or not, she is still good to use.

[pure pasture]

I've tried omertosa ling and a few others. Nothing

[cyan gorge]

are you dying to Pat or the mobs

Penance solos the mobs with ease

[pure pasture]

A little bit of both. More so when the paratroopers come flying in

[smoky halo]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1yV4y1g7di/

[cyan gorge]

bring extra dps then

you don't need to bring only Penance

[glass monolith]

If i take a shot each time someone consider "solo ling/penance etc" as valid guide for blind run of stage i will die to overdose

[pure pasture]

I've got mountain blaze typhon hoshiguma horn and a few 5*

[cyan gorge]

Doesn't Typhon delete Pat out of existence

[smoky halo]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Mg4y1w7T6/

copy this then

can replace TRC with any arbitraty ranged unit

[pure pasture]

I'm just getting a blank white screen with an infinite loading bar

ill be in rhodes island vc if anyone can join and give me some help

also i dont think anyone on my friends list has the mh collab characters

[sullen rover]

can replace TRC with any arbitraty ranged unit

[pure pasture]

idk what that means I'm a noob

[cyan gorge]

use literally any sniper

[turbid badge]

360 fun

[vernal lion]

[pure pasture]

Finally! S2 typhon plus penance wins it! I really hope tallulah isnt as bad as this

[cyan gorge]

[ocean ether]

abandon all hope, ye who enter here

[celest bluff]

I gonna talk about CC here

Okay I have no swing swing guard

No Ines

No eyjalter

How to 600 risk

[spark sinew]

there's surtr core strat

[smoky halo]

single core surtr strat

ft: malding beanstalk timing

[spark sinew]

there's also blemichi but you probably don't have ops there

[smoky halo]

is shining core in blemichis strat?

[spark sinew]

it's solo penance

but it uses say tequila for the fireball caster

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soy_kkZilk4

[celest bluff]

This is what I have

[peak cloak]

now u rely on stalling lol

[vernal lion]

you can just copy 4 op strat lol

[celest bluff]

damn

[peak cloak]

😂u cant 620 with this rosters?

[celest bluff]

I didnt even try yet

[peak cloak]

okay, deserve the lappdumb reaction

[cyan gorge]

You have every core op I used in my 620 clear

[vernal lion]

I think there are like 3 of 4 op strat

[celest bluff]

okay what th core op are

[cyan gorge]

Suzu Surtr Thorns (borrowed) + any e2 marksman

[celest bluff]

I have 600K lmd at the ready so I guess I can e2 someone

[vernal lion]

you basically already have every op you need

[celest bluff]

well time to watch more guide

[peak cloak]

brain: no, not yet

[vernal lion]

if you want to do it easy, just don't pick hp up + atk down risk

[celest bluff]

Is virtuosa gonna make lives easier

[vernal lion]

no, she just helps with her dmg

[cyan gorge]

I just used Virt s1 to kill one of the evokers

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLru5i7v2Lc

this one is not complicated

[celest bluff]

yeah still need to borrow Ines for the invis reveal

[vernal lion]

Ines s1 or s2 is all fine, just don't pick the risk that increase the hitpoint of the flame ghost enemy

the one with +160% self hp and 10 hitpoint

[cyan gorge]

Ines is not required here

[peak cloak]

simple strat: leak flying drones and kill all seeds or bait em

just like what Zenith posted

[vernal lion]

the hardest part is bait the beyblade before it entered the blue box

[cyan gorge]

Chetto mvp

[vernal lion]

skill that doesn't require auto recovery is just good

unless it requires more sp like the fucking Caper s2

[peak cloak]

wait.. why myrtle is on top?

bait purpose?

[manic pawn]

is there any video with low/kind of low rarity CC for this? i cant kill obelisks no matter what i do, thanks to their invisibility

[cyan gorge]

Bait so Surt doesn’t die too early

[peak cloak]

make sense

[celest bluff]

Is this gonna affect the game

[peak cloak]

one way to find out

yes, dew it

[celest bluff]

It is wide

[peak cloak]

u can scroll up. we just talked about that

[smoky halo]

what dps units do you have

[celest bluff]

It appear that I now have more fps that 16:9

[smoky halo]

you cant leak the drones lmao

its the flag risks

[vernal lion]

he just wants to get the flag

[manic pawn]

w8, actually, i had to do those with both combined? or i can clear Constrained, then Treachetous terrain?

[peak cloak]

ah true

[smoky halo]

combined lmao

[manic pawn]

rip

[vernal lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytyMhgZMaYY

[smoky halo]

oh wait

u dont have to take the stealth

wtf

and here i was malding on JP

cause i thought u need to max the previous block too

[manic pawn]

bruh

i thought it is mandatory

[smoky halo]

apparently it isnt

and i just cant read

so rip bozo to me

and you

[manic pawn]

thorns our lord and savior, thx

[lusty basin]

did anyone actually engage with WR mechanics at all on release

should I feel bad about brute forcing everything through ex boss cm

[glass monolith]

I started game not far from WR themed CC7, so don't even start Needed guide to finish risk 0 because there was like 14 of those exploding shits

[lusty basin]

I feel like I would've enjoyed the CC because you can like actually work with mechanics in a controlled manner

the EX stages are just like ehhhhhhhh this takes too much brainpower

[glass monolith]

I enjoyed forget to do deploy order and boss is range 10 risk

[lusty basin]

I'mma hit enemies until 0 HP

[lusty basin]

[glass monolith]

Good times

[celest bluff]

So criteria completed

0 -> 26

My phone screen broke so bad I can't see shits

[deft nest]

I give up, the cars always defeat me (600 points)

Plus I don't have lmd to upgrade mlynar and the rest

Any advice?

To deal with the cars

I gave them the buff with attack but they don't have the def buff

[surreal cliff]

You could try following this, sent by naga5373

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLru5i7v2Lc

Though it's for 620 instead

[deft nest]

Oh virtuosa, I do have her

[surreal cliff]

Good luck

[spice mortar]

I have none of the key components for strats augh

[deft nest]

I don't have eyja, ceobe, ines, ifrit and didn't build gravel-

(I'd build gravel IF I HAD LMD)

[surreal cliff]

Hmm, that's a shame

What about this, this could be the one

https://youtu.be/TPBkYicKMj4?si=gERXz0PlGoYBVwxo

Sent by fable0260

It lists all of what you don't have lol

[deft nest]

I have Thorns, eyjalter and mlynar so it couldn't be a problem if the strat included them

[surreal cliff]

Ít doesn't include some of those so this could be your godsend lmao

Good luck again

[Arknights] CC#1 Pyrolysis 620 EASY | without Mlynar, Eyja alter, Ines, Surtr and Chongyue

[deft nest]

I don't have shining and cantabile and hoshi

My original strategy would have worked FLAWLESSLY if I had either Silverash or Hoshiguma (since I could borrow the other)

I pulled for SA on kernel but Hellagur spook me

[surreal cliff]

The pains of lacking ops

😔

[deft nest]

Never entering cc again

I need someone to tank the cars 😭

And jessicalter can't do it

[surreal cliff]

How about these?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EUDi0E_vHw&t=14s

[deft nest]

This is the squad I have and I need to replace Jessicalter with someone capable of holding off the carss

[surreal cliff]

It's 4 stars

[surreal cliff]

Some madman cleared it with 4 stars

[deft nest]

I wholeheartedly appreciate the help you are providing me but I don't have lmd to build these ops

[surreal cliff]

Not even 4 stars...

[deft nest]

Lmd is rarer than orundum smh

[surreal cliff]

[deft nest]

Which ops reveal invis?

Silverash, Ines and?

[surreal cliff]

Well, from the top of my head it's Horns, Tsukinogi, and Elysium I think

Dunno, might be wrong

I just use Ines lmao

[deft nest]

I could use elysium s2 but the dp outcome will suffer

Is typhon s3 good to kill the cars?

However I'm not sure how to target the cars since they are invisible

[elder coral]

Would anyone be able to help me in dms with the current event and figuring it out...? I'm the worst at strategy but I wanna hash it out not publicly cause everyone doesn't need to see my stupidity xD

I tried following kyo vids but I still struggled

[gilded walrus]

Lmao only had old ops kinda of a struggle

idk how im suppose to push higher now

[lapis hornet]

thought it was year 1 challenge but saw chalter

[worldly stirrup]

Consider watching other 620 run. It might give you idea.

[gilded walrus]

emm i can try, but dm me what your box is like

[digital robin]

lol

I'm here to help too

[gilded walrus]

u know what thats a pretty good challenge

[vocal leaf]

change the risks, no evocators and leak the drones

[elder coral]

I'll dm a peep, I just have too much anxiety to chat a full convo here

[digital robin]

It doesn't matter

[gilded walrus]

ok

[elder coral]

When u have anxiety it does haha

Anyway ye

[hoary coral]

How do you deal with enraged possesed throwers with the max boost?

[radiant dune]

I used typhon

[hoary coral]

I have a support typhon but I'm not exactly sure how to get everyone else to stay alive

Might just need to pass this until I can E2 more than just one operator

[radiant dune]

Can you handle the top 2 lanes without typhon?

Tbh not entirely certain if it’s work for you because I had ptilopsis talent but I was able to cycle s3 to kill the throwers

[radiant dune]

Do you intend to max the difficulty? Lookin at this I don’t see a good way to deal with the throwers even with a borrow ngl

[hoary coral]

one of the challenges is to max thrower bonuses

so if I want that I have to

[modern copper]

4-5 demolishes me before I can set up

[radiant dune]

Ight gimme a bit ima boot the game up and see what that’s like

[sterile chasm]

probably use a charger where the start to get some quick dp for other vanguards

i'd recommend vigna

[remote perch]

i doubt that flametail can't handle a simple dog rush then just deploy humus

[sterile chasm]

yeah, i think Flametail s2 works better for the early rush

[remote perch]

and have you try not using myrtle as your 2nd vg when you're against a rush?

cuz you know
flags are ass in blocking theirselves

[hoary coral]

Isn't this a E1Level40 stage

[sterile chasm]

yeah

[radiant dune]

Okay so obviously ignore the top right, just wanted to stall til I could test typhon, but if you just put Kroos where I put her then wait til the dude dies typhon s2 kills everything that shows up on the bottom row

[remote perch]

recommended level doesn't mean squat

[radiant dune]

I took the vanguard dp thing as well just to get things rolling a bit faster

[cosmic thicket]

yeah the stage has been beaten with e0 level 1 skill level 1 lol

[radiant dune]

I forgot the image

[hoary coral]

placing Kroos where typhon is?

[radiant dune]

Nah where Kroos is top right of the device

She survives the damage from it and is out of aggro

Just once the left thrower dies place typhon and cycle her s2, I assume with like leonhardt you can probably hold the upper lanes

[radiant dune]

She’s facing left btw

[sterile chasm]

for the max thrower bonuses

are you using the all enemies hp up?

if not

[radiant dune]

Is that part of it?

[hoary coral]

No, the chalenge is just with boosted throwers

[sterile chasm]

no, but i'm no sure if they;re just doing criteria or trying to high risk it

ok

so what i did

was

after the throwers die

if you have a wandering medic

face them downwards

[hoary coral]

ok but how do I kill the throwers with my teamcomp

[radiant dune]

Try the thing I sent

[sterile chasm]

if you don't increase the hp

they die after a minute or so

the tanks are just out of range

[hoary coral]

oh

[sterile chasm]

but because they're on their own till the throwers die

i would recommend medic defenders

like spot or gummy

[hoary coral]

have 8 lmd

[sterile chasm]

oh

[sterile chasm]

if you have integrated strategies unlocked

you can try deep explorations and monthly missions for about 10k lmd per

[hoary coral]

IS deep explore is at difficulty 3 I think

monthly missions I've already done

actually what's the throwers range anyways

is it like a 3 tile radius

[sterile chasm]

i think it's 2

2.6 tiles

[modern copper]

ok but what about the guard rush on the bottom

[sterile chasm]

after you have dp replace with stronger ops

add medic for safety

and also

flametail's s2 lets her be almost invulnerable for a couple seconds

[sterile chasm]

pretty much like this

the other one is so far away it doesn't matter

it can only hit ops if the range hits the center of the tile the operator is on

so that one corner one should be fine

[radiant dune]

Cursed clear with only e2 being typhon

[sterile chasm]

yeah

[radiant dune]

Lava and leonhardt e1 can deal enough damage with Cuora and spot stalling

[hoary coral]

how does typhon kill the bottom row with that placement?

[radiant dune]

Wdym

Why wouldn’t she

[hoary coral]

if she's placed top right she doesn't have bottom row coverage

[radiant dune]

She’s facing down

[hoary coral]

or do you mean place her at the center tile facing right like the image above

[radiant dune]

Center facing down, the only thing in her range there is the 5 tile stretch of the bottom row

[remote perch]

use any vanguard that isn't myrtle to hold top then use flametail to cover bottom

[hoary coral]

ok I think I see the vision

[hoary coral]

Yeah typhon OP

[sharp pine]

Yo what banner should a beginner to pull on? The Irene or the joint one or just save instead?

[spark sinew]

are you rerolling

[sharp pine]

No

[spark sinew]

wait for the next banner on 21st

[sharp pine]

Y?

[spark sinew]

because it's better

[spark sinew]

save, but for the next banner

and because you won't need to wait for 6 months

[sharp pine]

👍

[pulsar mortar]

can someone help me with the 600 risk? I can't find any clips that'll help me clear the stage. I don't have Ines, Blaze, Thorn, Mlynar or Typhoon

[cyan gorge]

Show what you do have

[pulsar mortar]

here

[cyan gorge]

You can either borrow Ceobe for caster core or borrow Thorns for guard/sniper core

[vocal leaf]

did you get it done? you can try what i did

[pulsar mortar]

Oh yeah. I just found your clip and I'm trying it out. this seems the most possible for me

[vocal leaf]

oh you did? good luck

[pulsar mortar]

Yeah. I almost got it. I just need to remind myself to not forget to swap penance with cuora or else I'm doomed

[turbid badge]

Anyone have a max mod ifritb

Nvm adjusted my clear didn't need it anymoee

[ripe grail]

Is there any of my ops that can solo kill the 2 cars?

[cyan gorge]

Borrow Surtr

[ripe grail]

But i can't defend the lower half without thorn
I'm playing the strat that doesn't need to kill the flying things
So i don't have to borrow ines

[cyan gorge]

you can try NTRK but masteries + mod are heavily recommended

[ripe grail]

Nah she can't withstand 2 fireballs, she has mastery

[cyan gorge]

you mean the beginning evoker on the left?

[ripe grail]

I thought of using her s2 and then drop amiya but i don't have enough dp

[ripe grail]

Yeah, with the car right behind him

[cyan gorge]

Virt s1 can kill evoker easily

mastery irrelevant

[ripe grail]

How about the cars? They can't be blocked and need to be killed at spawn or slowed

[cyan gorge]

kill evoker then NTRK for car I suppose

[ripe grail]

But there's 2

[cyan gorge]

I can't think of anything else, assuming you're using the exact risks I think you're using

[ripe grail]

Hold on i'll take photo of the risks

[cyan gorge]

you said drone leak so I'm going with the assumption you have the same risks I used

[ripe grail]

https://youtu.be/Z4Yx8He5078?si=TnNbQhSVE3IunVCw

I'm using this strat too

[cyan gorge]

Ngl Surtr is more important than Thorns just cause of cars

but at the same time I can't image anything else being a Thorns replacement

[ripe grail]

Yeah but thorns can solo carry the bottom left
I tried to replace him with lappland s1, virtuosa s3, pozy
Nothing worked

If i can remove the first 2 risk, i can put mountain but it won't reach enought points

I guess
It's time to give up

Great job cc u rlly got me😅

[cyan gorge]

Surely there's one guide that's copyable, I just don't know it