strategy

[dark violet]

and I can't remove the pyro if I don't do that

[smoky halo]

wym

[dark violet]

wym wym

[smoky halo]

i mean specialists r pretty good here

dorothy can solo left

texas kills the car

yato can sub dps the drones

[dark violet]

it feels like we're playing different maps

WAIT

no

[smoky halo]

what

perma map right?

[vocal leaf]

tags make them very different

[dark violet]

yeah

[smoky halo]

i mean

we r talking abt the same map

ya

[vocal leaf]

try these tags @dark violet

enemy be bulky af, you just need ground power

[dark violet]

I see

so going the stall strat?

wait

[smoky halo]

depends on the strat

[dark violet]

if you're going for stall, isn't it better to get the atk down instead of hp down?

[smoky halo]

no

phy dmg formula

[vocal leaf]

it’s not a real stall they actually die very easily, at least with penance left chongyue right

[smoky halo]

u will end up leaking

bc u cant kill shit

[vocal leaf]

the cars are the only stall

[dark violet]

so the goal is to leak the drones?

wait that won't work

they leak the small too

[spark sinew]

not necessarily

[smoky halo]

no

[spark sinew]

idk you team but you can just kill with ines (and knowing shit you built, you have other ops anyway so you can borrow)

[vocal leaf]

i recommend this, you can replace horn with mylnar, they do same thing, which is kill the fireball dude and the cars at the end

[vocal leaf]

no, the last enemy on left side, around 26 kills, have to be stall with low atk defender, that way you bait the seeds

[dark violet]

I see the difference

I had no grass criteria because I can't do any skill otherwise

[spark sinew]

skills are overrated

eyja was still insane even without any skills, truly a balanced unit

[dark violet]

I should use offensive recovery

[vocal leaf]

yup, but with the tags i show you above you can take the lower sp debuff

[dark violet]

wait, why does my hoshi have 1200 defense

nevermind, she died

[vocal leaf]

how?

[dark violet]

defense doesn't block arts

[vocal leaf]

what healer are you using?

[dark violet]

I tried using eyjalter

[vocal leaf]

that should be work then

eyja should be deployed before her too

[dark violet]

the problem was that fireballs just killed everyone

[vocal leaf]

don’t take that tag

none of them

[dark violet]

don't really have a choice

[vocal leaf]

you do, look at here

[dark violet]

alright, I'm starting to figure out something I think

mmh, penance doesn't survive

[vocal leaf]

how not? does she have module?

[dark violet]

mod 1

she's in trust squad state

e2 60 mod 1 sl7

I don't use her

but I think I figured how to solve the problem

her skills depend on max health

so hp down is very annoying for her survival

I just increased the SP down in grass, and removed hp down

ines struggles a bit more, but so far it seems to work

[vocal leaf]

yeah i told you to not take fireball dudes tag that’s why she struggles to survive

it gets very annoying, that tag is better for no blocking strat

[dark violet]

I figured what I was missing

[dark violet]

so far it's fine tbh

meme on the sp down

[vocal leaf]

yeah as long as it work

[smoky halo]

wait ines s2?

s1 is better here

since u took -90% sp

[vocal leaf]

i think that’s also a ines support, it would be irene or chongyue if you dont have him

but i guess you need the dp

[dark violet]

battery charge almost over

I'll prob switch to SA next?

right on time

eh, so I need to remove penance at this point

everything else was a win

time to restart

[finite trench]

im not sure if this is the correct place, but i am currently struggling a lot with 3-8... i can clear the stages around it but the boss kind of clears all my operators on their way around the map, and It all falls to pieces. I don't want to look up a guide as I still wish to think of a solution, so any pointers would be great. I feel i might not fully understand my operators, or maybe some more basic mechanic i simply forgot? (im new sorry.)

[tidal sedge]

Typical strat is to avoid getting boss to half hp on their first lap around the map. Enrage atk buff makes them hit hard

[dark violet]

my tags

[finite trench]

ah, thank you. but what would I do in the second half? if i leave all of the operators out of the path of the boss, they will all be clumped up for the grenades.

[dark violet]

gdo you have gravel?

she's a good redeploy bait

[tidal sedge]

Lay down bait away from your cluster as boss approaches. Retreat someone whose relevancy has passed if need be

[finite trench]

i do have a gravel but i build projekt red first, should I also build gravel?

[dark violet]

(so strong in fact she's still viable in most content for her role)

[tidal sedge]

It doesn't have to Gravel. But she's more convenient in some ways

[dark violet]

red I can't say, I find her very bad compared to the other executors

gravel is great at being the fastest redeploy with good tanking

[finite trench]

ok i'll build gravel then. my only other issue i feel like might be healing, is it very important to elite 1 my healers more so than the rest of my squad? about half are E1 but i havent done my healers yet

[dark violet]

you'd get more to boost your melee tanks first

get levels into your healer to help but less priority

which healer do you use?

[finite trench]

i use warfarin and ansel right now, but i can switch ansel

to gavial*

[dark violet]

that's pretty good

[finite trench]

saria is also a healer but less so

[dark violet]

warfarin I used until late

although nowadays i only use perfumer

I'm a bit monomaniacal

[flat sapphire]

? Aren't they all the same redep time

[dark violet]

gravel easily has the rdp pot

[finite trench]

should i do gravel's skill one or two?

[spark sinew]

two

btw raise stuff like conviction and purestream to e1

although there's a chance you don't have conviction if you didn't start before april

[dark violet]

only two yeah

[finite trench]

yipee! thank you everyone!

[pulsar mortar]

Why Hoshi kept gain more block? Is Manfred also give you a block? I'm using Kyo's guide but turret kept switching target to Hoshi even if I deploy Penance after her

[deep frigate]

Do you have module

[pulsar mortar]

Oh.. yeah. now that's why

If I'm going to replace her. would saria be able to withstand manfred?

[stray finch]

Any links to easy cc main stage clear for 540 points?

[tiny tree]

where to place hoederer in manfred stage

[glass monolith]

I assume in face of Manfred and range of Surtr hospital

[spark sinew]

unequip the module

[dark violet]

Anyway, thanks a lot for the help
https://youtu.be/xoZcEOlRKkQ

Managed to clear finally

The final thing I had to figure out was to switch one of the hp tags for the armor one, so myrtle wouldn't kill the last guy

[glass monolith]

If i take a shot each time someone clear 620 without Ines. I will die from dehydration

[dark violet]

somehow with this clear, I could optimize her out I think

mostly here for the dp gen

[lusty basin]

is the 11-20 challenge worth my irl sanity

not having a healer is haaaaard

or a real tank

[zealous cradle]

why is it sideways

[lusty basin]

shhh

[spark sinew]

you're joking right

[zealous cradle]

and wow your account is noob as hell

literally the only year 1 op is fucking bagpipe

lmfao

[lusty basin]

no

[zealous cradle]

reedic easily heals this stage and if you feed penance sp she should BE able to tank SK

[lusty basin]

god I struggle with restricted ops

opener is hard here

[lusty basin]

but what about the lightning

I can't even bait with Lee

[zealous cradle]

what lightning

[lusty basin]

jump attack

[zealous cradle]

again reedic should just outheal

pretty sure penance taunt also focuses it on herself

[lusty basin]

penance gets it from HP anyway

[spark sinew]

you also have 3 event devices

[lusty basin]

yea...

I'll try stuff but I don't get how this is so straightforward that you thought I was memeing

[glass monolith]

Not redoing it over 1 fucking ice cream truck. Good night

[lusty basin]

yea iunno, this is not for me lol

I'm not seeing the reed-penance lines

if penance could solo the four artillery I'd consider pushing through but she can't even do that

I just...don't understand what makes reed supposedly good here

I don't even think I used her in h11-4

[radiant dune]

idk if ur down to borrow/already are borrowing someone more useful but shamare s2 makes his punch deal like no damage

[lusty basin]

oh this is just for the "first 6* you pulled in each class" challenge

seemed fun but it is not fun for me so I walk away

[radiant dune]

oh gotcha nvm lol

[lusty basin]

[cyan gorge]

Sounds like a dumb challenge

[echo cobalt]

What's the easiest tag combo to reach 620 risk?

[worldly stirrup]

Just dont take +hp or atk down risk

The rest is depend on your ops and strat

[modern plover]

^

[latent monolith]

I think mine is ling for supporters so it does sound kinda dumb

Ig I could try it with Angie but she's kinda E0

[spark sinew]

the joke is that wisadel half afk and soloes the stage

meanwhile people struggle to complete it with 8 6*

hence the name for the challenge

[glass monolith]

He said challenge is dumb, he didn't comment on name

or she or BIRD UP. never know in this shit times

[spark sinew]

i responded about the challenge itself, the name it just a throwaway line here, but it also adds some context

[peak cloak]

someone found where is leite? 😔

[long lotus]

Hey ppl is there any op that solos this stage?

[smoky halo]

prolly ling

[signal granite]

the cn challenge is cool, luckily my first 8 is better one xd

[vital arrow]

Cant you just camp the bottom lane with snipers

[vivid rain]

Weird isnt this map really easy

Like there is a really convenient ifrit tile

And the rest of the enemies are like dogs and whatever

[spark sinew]

i wonder what's the context about asking for solo specifically

[glass monolith]

I assume context is "Being destroyed by fireball casters" into "Being destroyed by bros taking ladder"

[dark violet]

I don't remember the map

I'll just say get dorothy

[smoky halo]

dorothy when invi enemies:

[spark sinew]

run ela wisadel ines

3 op everything

[dark violet]

ela, dorothy, SA for invis and faster mines

all I could ask for

[timber urchin]

Since i have seen many players here doing the 11-20 challenge

do you think it's possible for 3* clear with
SA, Chalter, Flametail, Saria, Lumen, Ling, Phantom, GG

i really stumped on how to make ling useful for 11-20

[sly drift]

Chalter alone break the stage

[timber urchin]

chalter alone cannot handle all 3 lanes
top tank
steam knight lane
bottom tank lane which use ladder to go to upper right corner of the map

[cyan gorge]

I don't think I can even attempt that challenge if I'll be stuck with Exu, Silverash, and Dusk to dps

[sly drift]

Not solo. I mean she certainly can carry

[timber urchin]

DPS is not the problem since I see someone stall the steam knight with Saria + shining + angelina

[cyan gorge]

I still don’t see this going far

[spark sinew]

you have better hoshi+ shining
sa dusk suzu for cars

[lusty basin]

oo first defender nian kinda swag

[cyan gorge]

if the challenge was newest 6* instead, I'd have a little more confidence

[spark sinew]

would make no sense for CN though

[cyan gorge]

true

[dark violet]

shu makes it easy

[spark sinew]

wisadel does

but basically every op is super good

[lusty basin]

even ulpi with zero abyssal buffs teehee

[spark sinew]

should still kill cars

[sly drift]

What's the first *6 specialist again?

Is it aak

[spark sinew]

aak phantom weedy

depending

[sly drift]

First ever

[smoky halo]

cant u just ling those?

[sly drift]

It's aak isn't it

[spark sinew]

it is

i would rather take phantom but both help quite a bit ig

[timber urchin]

ling dragon is actually squish from the bombardment

[sly drift]

Wait, aren't we must use first ever to get on our acc?

The challenge

[smoky halo]

ye

[smoky halo]

hm lemme try

[timber urchin]

good luck lemme know if you succeed

[spark sinew]

ling with skalter duos

you really should just stomp the stage honestly, because gg chalter ling probably trio

[sly drift]

Oh wait, can we add additional *5 or *4 to the squad?

[spark sinew]

no

[sly drift]

Only 8?

[timber urchin]

yea only 8

[sly drift]

Is it even doable lmao

[spark sinew]

typical d1 lineup ngl

yeah, you should clear

you even have schwarz instead of exu

[sly pivot]

is this doable even LMAO!

[shut hazel]

I feel old

[spark sinew]

not for you, obviously, but i heard something that made me think

[sly pivot]

what did u hear 🥹

[spark sinew]

lemme dig it up

[sly pivot]

i have top 3 unit ines

its easy

🫡

[spark sinew]

found the quote, here

[sly pivot]

who is this charming fellow

his wisdom knows no bound

[smoky halo]

i succeeded in kill the mobs
died to the boss tho (not enough baits)

used this tho so not exactly the same

cuora does not perma stall

[sly pivot]

u have dusk s3 u have enough baits 🫡

[spark sinew]

dusk wisadel clears
how broken is dusk

[smoky halo]

very broken

[sly pivot]

point dusk at sk

win

[solar sage]

I’m probably still too new to even attempt but seeing everyone do endgame/ tough content kinda makes me wanna get in on it

[peak cloak]

well, no one is gonna stop you

[sly drift]

Mf you can't stall the boss using shining and saria. This challenge is for big brainer only (I'm not)

[smoky halo]

if ur new the challenge should be easier

[civic bear]

That squad has like

[smoky halo]

i mean this is what i have for the challenge was pretty much a walk in the park

[civic bear]

9 billion damage

Ez bro

[solar sage]

My leveling so far… 😭 I got a lot of grinding for resources left to do

What other characters should I consider for end game?

I’m aware of Degen, Ines, Texas…

Any other recommendations?

[smoky halo]

degen ela walter

texas is limited so planning to get her is cope

or whale

[solar sage]

I already got Texas

Got her with a 5 star selector token a while back

[smoky halo]

arent u talking about texas alter?

[somber falcon]

Not that one

[spice mortar]

We mean texas alter

[smoky halo]

[spice mortar]

Also you dont have to send ur entire roster, 5* is irrelevant except for a few and everyone has all 4 stars.
Also this is a help question

Also dont level up so many random ops to e0 50, better to e1 a few good ops

[solar sage]

Ah

[void terrace]

Better to just e2 myrtle

And borrow ling to bash content

By grinding IS levels you can easily get e2 4 star in under 2 weeks

[somber wasp]

Is myrtle a good unit ?

[void terrace]

She's value I. The long run

[spark sinew]

not in this context

[void terrace]

In the long run

Not for specific stages.

If you want an easier time rushing an e2 allows you to borrow e2 6 stars

Which makes clearing content far easier and giving you access to better mats

There's only so many stages ling can't solo before ch 11

[spark sinew]

and every other 4* is superior to myrtle in that context

[void terrace]

So just being able to borrow her means you have basically cleared story

[spark sinew]

because eventually you want to transition to borrowing not ling

[void terrace]

Myrtle is a standard flagbearer who has use into the late game with her dp

[spark sinew]

just in some cases

[void terrace]

She's a bit outdated

But she still throws her weight

She's basically the one op that you don't regret raising

I mean for me even with every 6 star in the game I still use her occasionally

I don't use any other 4 stars

[spark sinew]

wanquinc be like

[somber wasp]

Alright I'll build her, thanks

[void terrace]

So yeah from someone who has played far into endgame I can say myrtle still holds value even amongst other 4 stars who will be outclassed by their relevant high star counterparts

[spark sinew]

rip

[smoky halo]

thats cap

i have myrtle raised

i dont use her

i wanna refund if i can

[spark sinew]

that much long term value does not matter to newbies

[void terrace]

True I guess

[spark sinew]

you're just having a useless slot

[smoky halo]

i would rather raise a dps 4star instead

[void terrace]

Mean you can just build jessica

Not every player will end up with the entire roster afterall

[spark sinew]

that's not gonna be better than dps 4* until you have 13 ops e2

[void terrace]

So a 4 star dps might be better in the short run

[spark sinew]

means you build humus click pinecone or even may

[smoky halo]

you dont need myrtle in general content anyway

[void terrace]

Humus is a good choice

She is good quality of life for most of the game though

Really up to you on who to trust on this one

[smoky halo]

feels like quality of life is something people build after they have dps units tho

[lusty basin]

myrtle doesn't even help against story rush maps lol (e.g. dogs in ep. 7)

[void terrace]

I'm a rather old player so yeah take my words with a pinch of salt

Everyone here seems to jump on whatever stuff you say but hey I can speak from experience that myrtle is the only 4 star that I occasionally use

Without saileach or Ines she's the brainless vanguard pick

[lusty basin]

"e2 myrtle first" is a touchy topic 'round these parts

[smoky halo]

ely:

[void terrace]

4 star

I mean they don't seem that new

[smoky halo]

i was refering to this

if no ines or sail

u will pick ely before considering myrtle

[void terrace]

E2 myrtle first is a good start point for most day 1 players to just spam ling and borrows

[void terrace]

Personally I just go for myrtle caus pot6 bagpipe and almost instant activation

[smoky halo]

its more like the earlier first activation doesnt matter

but its just more comfortable

cause if ur against dp down 3 or something

[void terrace]

Yeah comfort is key

[smoky halo]

you would rather have ely who generates more dp

[void terrace]

Nah still go for myrtle in most cases. Sometimes Ely too

But usually just saileach or Ines I guess

I mean I am a rather jaded player so my starts may be behind the times

[lusty basin]

at any rate new players get free texas anyway

[void terrace]

I just play what's most comfortable

Texas is a shit vanguard interns of gen tho

[smoky halo]

but ely s1 is equivalent to sail s1

why is sail a consideration but ely isnt

[void terrace]

Yeah I just use sail

Hence myrtle has value over Ely for me

[spark sinew]

they shouldn't

[void terrace]

Caus it's a slightly different use case and earlier activation

[spark sinew]

that's actual bait

mediocre ass pioneer for perma base damage

[lusty basin]

just leave pinboard uncompleted

no texas ever

[wide sail]

leaving it unfinished is extreme cringe anticompletionist behaviour

definitely not 2020 cope

[smoky halo]

[smoky halo]

ok ye i get ur point now

[void terrace]

Yeah but for new players with lesser built rosters Ely is definitely more relevant I guess

[smoky halo]

ye if they have them ofc

[spark sinew]

i love how people ignore welfare 5* flag

[smoky halo]

bc he doesnt exist yet

[wide sail]

does wanking buff beat ely for sniper

[spark sinew]

no

[lusty basin]

same patch releases shu for ely-sniper comp

[smoky halo]

ely better then cause he buffs walter better

[spark sinew]

||ely is worse cause he's redundant if you have walter||

[wide sail]

actually wait do they stack

[tender gyro]

galvanized square steel where

[spark sinew]

do you really want to summon weeboo

[smoky halo]

thats one of the mods

[tender gyro]

[tender gyro]

screws from aunt where

[proud temple]

how do i kil manfred

[bold lance]

1. hit him with a cannon 2) dodge ignore 3) true damage 4) take your time.

[narrow patrol]

Pretty sure dude’s in the shu event… which is t out on global

[spark sinew]

meanwhile people cope degen or shu or ela or zuo

[vocal leaf]

and the best part is that he’s a boy maleknights finally will have 2 flags!

[spark sinew]

if you cope hard enough

maleknights have a fourth healer

[smoky halo]

wym theres already 4 healers

lumen ansel bassline spot

[spark sinew]

even you forgot chestnut

[flat sapphire]

Coz people already built myrtle, ely, and sail so why build another flag?

[vocal leaf]

yeah i can’t wait for harold, im skipping degen, i only care about harold

[spark sinew]

the convo wasn't about it though

[smoky halo]

right chesnut

[flat sapphire]

Oh ok i didn't backread

[spark sinew]

it was literally shilling myrtle for a brand new player, mentioning ely (and then adding a caveat about getting him)

[smoky halo]

cant wait for the quadruple flagpipe shillers

[spark sinew]

mentioning sail s1

[flat sapphire]

[latent anvil]

Oooh sail s1m3 I did that

It so op

[flat sapphire]

I did too

Nothing quite like triple flags s1m3

Dp down what?

[latent anvil]

My Elysium s2m3 only

[glass monolith]

Oh wasn't next CC "daily" be rerun of "No vanguards" map?

[sly pivot]

can anyone do 11-20 adverse with this team for me

🥹

cant add or switch these ops

[soft crystal]

Cope

[lethal dragon]

Siege tanks steam knight fr fr

[delicate moth]

can someone tell me how my medic keeps on dying on those 2 tiles on the right? the collector spawning those things just instantly kill her and she´s in reeds i just don´t understand

not being revealed either

[timid acorn]

reeds don't provide camouflage if they're on fire

[delicate moth]

ooooh

i see

thanks

just placed her here instead then :p

[zealous cradle]

i thought you were maleknights

[spark sinew]

can anyone do 11-20 adverse with this team for khant

i bet you can't

[fast basin]

he khannot

[agile ember]

when does current daily CC stage disappear? next reset in 14hrs?

[polar crane]

it dont disappear

the time limited mission is tho

but it just some shop currency

I dont play en cant tell you when it end

you can play all of cc at the last day

[agile ember]

i want the medal tho. to complete all 12 daily missions

[modern plover]

Might as well adjust to his own niche
First acquired 6* male on each class

[spark sinew]

the challenge becomes noticeably harder

you have 7 ops

...do males have a sniper

6 ops

[pure pasture]

Who would u guys say is the better defensive healer? Cuora or gummy

[modern plover]

At least better than 2

Screw not having a sniper, maleknights doesnt have a 6* def

[glass monolith]

Self regen is not heal don't @ me

[vocal leaf]

bubble

just kidding

[spark sinew]

what is even defensive healer

they both suck at healing

[merry narwhal]

solo: Cuora walls off physical enemies with a bit more than 1200 atk permanently while Gummy does better against arts, so it depends

[pure pasture]

Well I'm dealing with a mortar enemy on 7-16. Gotta bait em with a defender

Otherwise my other ops are gonna get obliterated

[glass monolith]

Being filtered by deployment order is my favorite activity in this game

[pure pasture]

I was also gonna use a support lin to use as possible bait since it's almost impossible to break her barrier

[remote perch]

if you're gonna borrow a support
might as well borrow a ling

[pure pasture]

This is the layout I'm dealing with the right side blue zone is my biggest issue

[radiant dune]

If it’s that zone just borrow yato or texalter

If top left I can see typhon or horn killing things there as well

Also the only e2 you have being Shaw of all things is kinda wild

[pure pasture]

Well this is just from the video I'm watching. Some guy named eckogen

[radiant dune]

Wait what ops do you have? Surely you have some ops better suited to this stage than some e1 three stars

[pure pasture]

I've tried with my a team but the costs are just too high and I can't deploy fast enough

[radiant dune]

Ight gimme a couple min ima try somethin

[pure pasture]

Well ill be in vc for the moment if ur able to chat

[radiant dune]

Eh not really in prime vc location rn lol

[pure pasture]

rip was gonna screenshare the game on my pc

ill still be in vc anyway if anyone wants to chat

[radiant dune]

Ight this worked for me, I do have horn masteries and typhon mod which may change things a bit but basically just placed Myrtle on left lane behind where mountain is, placed mountain, then horn, then hibiscus, the typhon and retreated Myrtle so she doesn’t get hit and just afkd

[remote perch]

If you're borrowing, why not borrow a ling instead and let her solo the map

https://youtu.be/Tnu7utN4a54?si=Cc4nhkPsrVa7W1hr

No hassel managing anything

[radiant dune]

Oh shit wasn’t paying attention right side needs like a single placement of gravel so no leak

[remote perch]

Just dump and forget

[pure pasture]

SOLO!?

[radiant dune]

Oh yeah ling lol

[remote perch]

Yes

[radiant dune]

Queen of soloing stages

[remote perch]

Ling solo literally 90% of the game

[pure pasture]

i need to watch this

although is she a mastery 3 ling max lvl skill?

[remote perch]

you're gonna borrow anyway, does it matter

and even without m3, im sure she will still solo the map due to the sheer amount of stats her summons have

the module is more important to solo since it has reduce DP for summons

[pure pasture]

ig she can just go on to my a team and i can adjust if needed

[somber falcon]

Easy solution for "ops are too expensive" problem in general stages: stop using vanguards for artificial dp gen

[pure pasture]

well lemme see how the ling part goes first

wait her summons can fuse together?

[remote perch]

yes

[pure pasture]

how many times can i stack?

[spark sinew]

1

it all should be described in s3

[remote perch]

you can only combine a dragon once
but u can have like 3 of them in the field

[spark sinew]

obligatory myrtle bad

[pure pasture]

What the actual heck she mutilated them!

[remote perch]

welcome to the ling brainrot

[pure pasture]

;-; why must she be limited op

[spark sinew]

dw bigger players are coming

ela wisadel degen logos all kinda trivialize content and somehow degen can be argued to be the weakest here

just to understand the power levels we talkin about here

hell, your team is also very good for afk-ing the stages

[pure pasture]

well im about to finish 7-17 as well thnx to her

[vocal leaf]

my man hoederer is unstoppable

and back then i had to watch a kyo guide of swapping defenders multiple times

[pure pasture]

im not trusting kyo anymore not with these higher levels

[dense compass]

use ulpian s3 to dodge smh

🤫

[vocal leaf]

im not a time traveler sadly

[pure pasture]

|| So for the patriot boss fight do the mines just dmg him or do they like give some sort of debuff?||

[remote perch]

The mines gives a debuff that increase the enemies damage taken

[lapis hornet]

if only the game told you when you tap them

[pure pasture]

ok cause my typhon and ling barely do anything to him

[remote perch]

use Typhon s3

easily kill the boss

then use a random ranged unit to tank the boss spear

[pure pasture]

ranged unit eh? Does horn count or we talking like sniper or arts guard

[remote perch]

unit in the ranged tile

like medic or something

doesn't really matter who
anyone works cuz you just need it so boss won't target Ling or Typhon

[sly drift]

Update to cn challenge yesterday. It's way easier, not even close than whatever the fk I have to do for 620 points.

[latent anvil]

mine was simple ling s2 to make it slightly more fair

[zealous cradle]

noobass

[spark sinew]

phantom schwarz ng

literally y0

[latent anvil]

yea y0 player

fr

matt go away

you turn from therapist to abuser not pro

[spark sinew]

now me

i'm a new player

[latent anvil]

hoshi hellagur too

[zealous cradle]

i literally never agreed to this btw

[hazy creek]

Can someone give tips to defeat LS4

[tidal sedge]

That's a very interesting start for a new account

[hazy creek]

Why is it bad?

[tidal sedge]

You saw through the euphemism I see. Your 6*s are specialized for utility or handling weaker enemies at a low dp cost.

[hazy creek]

More like I thought I have upgraded the wrong units

[tidal sedge]

I'm not recommending to reroll or anything. It's just not something I see often.

[hazy creek]

I'm trying to summon for Surtr is it a good idea

[hazy creek]

I'm too lazy to do that

[tidal sedge]

Understandable, and Surtr is pretty good yeah.

What's getting you in LS4? Wraiths?

[hazy creek]

The grouped enemies

Idk how they are called

[tidal sedge]

Are they unblockable?

[hazy creek]

Yeah there are so many

[scarlet mortar]

wraiths or slugs?

[tidal sedge]

They're basically a slow + dps check.

[scarlet mortar]

slugs are the small spiky things

wraiths are the running guys with goggles

if it's slugs just toss aoe

[tidal sedge]

If it is the slugs, you'll want an aoe op or two. Like Lava

[hazy creek]

Should I max her

[tidal sedge]

E1 range increase might be helpful. Is she not killing them fast enough at e0 20?

[hazy creek]

No

[viscid raft]

Is tsukinogi useful? What about ptilo

[hazy creek]

I'll farm some xp tickets and lvl her up and test it

[dapper hedge]

Ptilo yes tsuki meh

[tidal sedge]

You can either put levels into her, or try to throw in another aoe like 12F. If it is possible to get the dp to deploy both

[hazy creek]

Also which ops should I generally upgrade

[tidal sedge]

Archetto will be nice for a while as a dps.

[viscid raft]

Should I use her instead of perfumer

[tidal sedge]

If you've the means to e1 her, her skillset is multitarget in nature which might be helpful for your slug problems

[glass monolith]

Both, Both are good

[hazy creek]

I don't think i can

[glass monolith]

Ptilo speeds up SP regeneration for units with Auto. And S2 burst heal good.
Perfumer still regens which still has usage, expecially if you spam unhealable units

[viscid raft]

Should I replace susurro with her

[sly drift]

Ur sussuro is well built tho.
Just use sussuro until you actually need ptilo burst heal

[tidal sedge]

That is fine. She should get some levels regardless. 2 marksman is fine dps for a while

[hazy creek]

Ok will try to E1 soon thanks for the help

[viscid raft]

Ok

[severe musk]

best wandering medic after eyja? is honeyberry ok?

[sly drift]

Honeyberry is fine but ejya is just in different dimension

[severe musk]

I dont have her

also honeyberry S1 or S2?

[fast basin]

honeyberry is fine, i personally use her s1

[dark violet]

aaaaaah, so close

if only that was a double mine

cutting most of the rng at the start, but there's several spots where it's pure gamble

[hazy creek]

Bruh I just got Saileach for a second time

[tidal sedge]

On the bright side, pot 2 makes her usable according to some people.

[hazy creek]

It's just -1dp cost how is it good I'd rather get another operator

[dark violet]

it's a vanguard

-1 dp makes a game

[tidal sedge]

She was used for important role compression in high difficulty content that often has severe natural dp gen reduction

[scarlet mortar]

it's useless until 3 years down the line where you have literally everyone and some high risk CC needs a p6 sail opener

(clueless)

[tidal sedge]

So -1 dp can mean getting her out 4 seconds faster

[dark violet]

having my flametail at 8 dp cost is a deal breaker

[hazy creek]

What operator should I get to make levels easier cause I lose a lot(skill issue)

[dark violet]

there'll be degen breaker coming in a week

[hazy creek]

What is that?

[dark violet]

very strong guard

[tidal sedge]

I was making a joke about it making her usable. It didn't land it seems

But ig it requires specific context to understand

[dark violet]

anyway, I just looked and you have flametail
she's probably your best bet for now

[hazy creek]

I need someone that does more damage

[dark violet]

otherwise focus on the decent 3* like hibalter, kroos,ptilo

[scarlet mortar]

which 4*s do you have

[dark violet]

she needs s2 or s3

[scarlet mortar]

nice 3*s

[hazy creek]

me?

[scarlet mortar]

yh

[dark violet]

her s1 is pretty much the worst skill she has

[tidal sedge]

Here's their ops

[hazy creek]

What do they do

[dark violet]

s2 is area double hit for high damage, but also gives a lasting dodge chance to every op there

very strong at clutch moments

[scarlet mortar]

jaye, utage, totter have good dps as far as 4*s go

if you don't want to wait until a 6*s falls into your lap you can raise them

[dark violet]

her s3 makes her stronger than a centurion with block 3, almost 80% dodge chance, and multihits

it doesn't last too long, but it recharges very fast

[hazy creek]

Will it take long to get better 6 star characters

[dark violet]

s3 also gives arts dodge, which can be pretty important to tank

[scarlet mortar]

maybe, depends on your luck

degenbrecher's like the strongest power spike you'll be able to get for the upcoming months

[dark violet]

I don't know much the others you have, but I can at least say that flametail isn't an investment to regret

[hazy creek]

It's hard to farm promote mats and xp tickets tho

[dark violet]

it takes a bit of time, but the game is quite generous, shouldn't be too long

[scarlet mortar]

it gets better once you finish building your base and readily farm the new events

[hazy creek]

Where can I see all the 6 stars in the game

[dark violet]

it gets better when you get proviso

[scarlet mortar]

check the pins ig

anw 6*s don't just instawin for you, better to raise 4*s rn

[vivid rain]

i love my 60k lmd production/day

[scarlet mortar]

it'd help if you can actually farm the good stages next event and so on

[hazy creek]

Yeah but they do make it easier

[scarlet mortar]

not by much

[dark violet]

it goes almost to 100K a day with the daily stuff

[remote perch]

i mean you can use this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-EUreXBiEGVo8boM16dqj24-bHclkneGUja-VIvInig/edit?gid=137042875#gid=137042875

just click for the class you are gonna look for

[vivid rain]

im just counting base only but yeah

[dark violet]

tbh having a solid melee op carried me for most of the first chapters

[scarlet mortar]

your squad is all E0s, it'll die to a farm stage

get an E1 squad at least

[dark violet]

it was franka, but flametail would carry even better with the dp gen

[hazy creek]

I'm doing it but it takes time

[scarlet mortar]

ehh DP gen isn't a big prio

4*s are cheaper to raise too

[dark violet]

getting her e1 is probably the priority yeah

having s2 will be important

[scarlet mortar]

idk i'd just get jaye E1 or sth first

E1 flametail doesn't cycle that quickly, it'll fall back to the rest of your squad anw

[dark violet]

texas was so useful for me, she was my only vanguard for a very, very long time

until I got flametail, actually

my start was franka and tsukinogi

I didn't have a 6* until a week in

melee carry is very important early on

[scarlet mortar]

lmao i was carried by schwarz and W

[dark violet]

my first 6* were hoshi and SA

[scarlet mortar]

hoshi was ok but it's either i don't need that much defense or the enemy is a bladeweaver

(she dies)

it's not as much melee dps as much as it's.... dps

like yh no duh

[dark violet]

hoshi I was using in my main squad until I got splatter

I still have SA

finally another good start cooking

[dark violet]

so close, let's not mess this up

only 1 more rng to have

oof, got screwed

5 mines no crit

[dark violet]

I've got the battle plan to a T

https://youtu.be/FKOOWUA7G3o @distant glade spreading the blessing

[distant glade]

AYO TY MAN

[dusty cedar]

ngl this stage is the most Typhon stage in existence

• enemies file in 1 by 1
• high def elites
• covers more than one lane
• no bulldhit environmental hazards such as poison mis
• no global 1 shot ranged hack against your ops

[smoky halo]

meh the stage is just pretty easy in comparison

theres a lot of solo clears

[dusty cedar]

not to mention the free +50%! bonus attack!

like what???

[smoky halo]

so far ive done exec texas solos too

the poze solo im trying to do seems to be potgated by pot4

[dark violet]

I wish we had one more floaty for doro mines

fighting against the odds, alas

[smoky halo]

dorothy solos but its pretty schizo cause ur praying for rng crit mines

[dark violet]

at least doro clear isn't potgated

[smoky halo]

true

texas is potgated by pot4 too

but well i have one in my friendslist so wasnt an issue

typhon solo is the least effort solo tho

[dark violet]

she's the mwynar of ranged ops

[smoky halo]

no

walter is the mwynar of ranged ops

[dusty cedar]

oh yeah true, just pointing out that Typhons strengths become really obvious to note when using here

[smoky halo]

ah ya

[dark violet]

is this the new op I shouldn't use

[smoky halo]

she just chews thru the +2k def risk

banger talent

[dark violet]

it made me realize doro s1 has uses

[dusty cedar]

I panicked at the uncalled for bulldhit +2k fucking def like wtf

but then I remembered

hold on

there's literally 1 op who specializes against high def

[smoky halo]

ceobe

[dusty cedar]

and the aforementioned obstacles I listed

who can do it by herself

[dark violet]

gotta love the mines dealing 11K physical to shieldguards

[smoky halo]

ok nvm

[dusty cedar]

so uh ye

[dusty cedar]

grimace shake ceobe!

[dusty cedar]

ceobe but she got isekaid into a hivemind of mines

[dark violet]

tbh they're kinda similar in kit. One physical bind skill, one heavy physical, and one high arts rapid fire

well, ceobe axe is arts I guess

there's more difference too, though, which is why I like having both

[dusty cedar]

the difference is one is a fully fledged scientist who invented her mines while the other one threw together a bunch of scraps she found in the dumpster and calls them skills

no ceobe slander I love ceobe

[dark violet]

and the best part is, they're the main characters of my suggested event.

https://discord.com/channels/586503387072167937/1213190002520096802

[scarlet mortar]

welp there goes enemyknights' record for phase 3

[ornate loom]

so im currently struggling at 7-9, however all the guides have a bunch of operators levelled up that i have never used (therefore they are lvl 1), what do i do?

my current team

[crimson summit]

Show your full roster

[dark violet]

mh?

[dark violet]

overall you focused on your best ops I'd say

prob just need more levels

[scarlet mortar]

enemyknights has doro

nobody else in my roster solos so

[dark violet]

oh I see

dorobless

[cyan gorge]

Get your core squad to around e1 50-60, chapter 7 encourages having decently leveled vanguards or having Mountain

[dark violet]

your flametail needs to be e2 for s3

[ornate loom]

do i need s3

[dark violet]

yes

also her module is important

-4 dp cost

[cyan gorge]

It’s a lot better than her s2 for sure

Module can wait

[ornate loom]

so i focus on upgrading flame yeah?

[dark violet]

her s2 is only really useful for IS with spinach

[cyan gorge]

Also get more levels on Bassline and Silence

[ornate loom]

ok i somehow did it

[dark violet]

nice

[ornate loom]

but i will e2 my flametail

[dark violet]

my flametail plays roles even in end game content like CC 620 risk

[violet heron]

can't believe I suck at the game even with an account with high rarities

any tips?

I think my strat kinda sucks because

I deploy fartooth on top first

and deal a little dmg to tal

with s3

also no NG

I'm trying to auto farm aketons

[cyan gorge]

Drop Fartooth for an actual high hp blocker

[safe knoll]

don't worry about struggling on this one, this stage is notoriously difficult

[violet heron]

should drop tex alter too I think

I can't even memorize the bait timing

[dark violet]

where gravel? Also specter

[violet heron]

brute force is the only way

[cyan gorge]

if you can't tank boss, you either don't have enough res or healing

[violet heron]

so I can manage to somehow survive the fireballs after phase 1

[spark sinew]

they have eyja, 2frd and mountain

[violet heron]

but she just walks a few tiles after phase 2

how do I deal with that

[violet heron]

I have skill issue

[safe knoll]

is it the transition phase with the fireballs killing you or is it later on?

[violet heron]

later on

tal can't be damaged right after phase 1

and a few seconds later

she just walks in

to the blue box

I used mlynar for 1st phase

[remote perch]

why are u blocking her next to the blue box tho

[violet heron]

so where would be the best place to finish phase 1?

[safe knoll]

I'll run back my auto and get a pic

[dark violet]

I forgot this is what I had done for CM. I used thorns

[violet heron]

[remote perch]

i just block her next to the stairs
so whoever is blocking her still gets healed by the medics

[violet heron]

I also have pozemka as another boss killer

[safe knoll]

I made this auto before I had nightingale so its kinda different from some of the others, but she phased here:

[violet heron]

surtr

[safe knoll]

(upper right corner, killed by surtr)

[violet heron]

ok bro

[safe knoll]

surtr not ok?

[violet heron]

I think she had high res

Like A

did surtr killed during 8 seconds?

I have m3 too

[cyan gorge]

Surtr still does a good chuck of her health

[safe knoll]

it took 2 surtr rotations

[violet heron]

I see

[safe knoll]

the first was in the lane immediately below where she is in that pic

[violet heron]

I kind of remember but don't remember exactly tal's path

I also have to work on that

so I think I'll try phase 1 surtr and phase 2 mlynar

[safe knoll]

I also use surtr as a shield to keep thorns alive in the second fireball phase

[violet heron]

did you retreat saria earlier?

before the fireballs

[safe knoll]

yeah I retreated everybody but thorns and somebody to body block for him in each fireball phase

[violet heron]

there will also be fireballs after phase 2 right?

[polar crane]

yes

remember that she will immediately use ignite after the fire balls wave

[violet heron]

setting on fire 2 ops?

ignite?

[polar crane]

ye

deploy 2 bait first then build your defense like normal

[violet heron]

team recommendations?

I forgot there is ntrk in that account

[safe knoll]

she's comparably soft against talulah because the burn eats all of the deployment shields she gets with her S2, which is why I went with surtr

[violet heron]

do I bring 4 frd?

[dark violet]

in my weak account I just needed gravel and red

[safe knoll]

seems like overkill for talulah imo but if its to help catch stuff leaking too it could work

[violet heron]

leaking might not be a problem

ok... so I'll try again

[safe knoll]

are you just trying to clear it or get a stable auto?

[violet heron]

stable auto

there was an auto before

but it's unstable

and failed

[safe knoll]

ah got it

[spark sinew]

why are you using not your acc though

[safe knoll]

I had the same issue with stability but I can't remember if I redid the auto or it just stabilized with more investment in my units

[cyan gorge]

Mine still works

[violet heron]

ok I did it

now time to clear

[violet heron]

this is my friend's
I use both mine and his

because he went to boarding school and can't play for this year anymore

[dark violet]

make sure to get him all the cool new ops

[violet heron]

he said to save for walter

unexpected things happened at the top lane but

still did it

[glass monolith]

But what if... I skip the Walter

[violet heron]

didn't even had the chance to use mlynar

did both phases with surtr + yalter + tex alter

[spark sinew]

just pull everything!

[spice mortar]

Skipping walter is best choice

[turbid badge]

How do you do that

[turbid badge]

You are somethjg

[glass monolith]

Brain dead operators is for new players
I prefer brain dead hyper specific operators combination abuse

[turbid badge]

I'm raise insider for chalter bored team and exalterr side ammo, high attack marksmensm shouldn't hurt right another marksmen shouldn't be that bad right??

[latent monolith]

🐳

[long lotus]

Just skip arknights entirely at that point

Uninstall the game fr

[spice mortar]

pulling walter is skipping arknights

why use any other character

[vocal leaf]

im skipping degen, ray and walter and saving for the boys

[glass monolith]

2 stupid collabs, manticore 2.0, Dad who owns milk store

My plans till next month AK CN drop even stronger unit

[cosmic thicket]

skip walter for logos

[vocal leaf]

im considering to skip the collabs, i rather miss those outsiders than actual operators from ak world

i want blitz and doc tho, they cute

[spark sinew]

you really don't want to miss ela

i'm sure you'll regret it later

[long lotus]

You really don't want to miss walter or ela*

They are the most important by far imo

[spark sinew]

arguable honestly, at least for the person above?

[long lotus]

Shu and degen would be great but they are optional compared to those

[spark sinew]

either way did it really need a ping

[long lotus]

[spark sinew]

degen isn't even in the picture

ela is just versatile enough for some funny clears as well

not hurr durr i kill everyone like walter although she also does

so even for someone who isn't looking for powergaming, skipping ela seems like a bad idea (let's not mention that she's literally easiest to get, and is a true limited)

[dark violet]

ela is the only op I'm really considering for use

I need her for dorothy shenanigans

double mine trigger

Dorothy Ela Attack has no weakness

[atomic mural]

Guys how do I beat 2-9
It’s starting to become a pain in the ass

[dark violet]

what's your ops

[spice mortar]

Are you allergic to advice

[dark violet]

you've got pretty broken ops already

you need to promote your 6*

Although I approve the choice of having e1 the strongest meta op

[atomic mural]

Brother I am working on promoting them

[atomic mural]

I have made absolutely zero preparations in getting promotion materials 💀💀💀

[dark violet]

doon't worry, you'll get the chance to farm during normal events

[spice mortar]

Contradicting yourself in 2 messages

[dark violet]

materials are fairly easy to obtain

[spark sinew]

in the long run

you just stall as much as possible for the events

so you raise everything else that you can (within reason)

[dark violet]

and during the events, you farm it

[spark sinew]

what was even 2-9

can just borrow kal probably

[vivid rain]

Prob W

Ch0 was W tutorial iirc, ch1 is weak CS, so ch2 should be W

[dark violet]

in doubt, dorothy

[spark sinew]

isn't boss 2-10

[dark violet]

ah wait, 2-9 is drone map, kal is useless here

but yeah, get more snipers

[spark sinew]

not useless per se

but not ideal i suppose

[dark violet]

well, not great

taking a ranged slot for melee

[spark sinew]

ling s2 angle

[dark violet]

lol

[latent anvil]

ling s2 is so op

oneshot everything

[hazy creek]

Are any of these op worth it

[vapid totem]

Ethan

You can also take honeyberry for IS

[hazy creek]

Wait can you checkout my ops and recommend me which I should get

Also does it take long to farm them

[vapid totem]

Sure

[dark violet]

I used ethan until very long, he lasted more than a year in my main squad

[hazy creek]

.

[hazy creek]

Why is he good

[dark violet]

because his s2 is almost perma stall for the duration

very strong CC

[hazy creek]

That's op

[dark violet]

and takes spots that other ops don't, so you don't get too cramped

[hazy creek]

What is CC cuz I forgot

[dark violet]

crowd control

[hazy creek]

Is he the only one that is worth getting

[dark violet]

I think so

caper is pretty unique, could be worth using this early

[vapid totem]

He also is less targeted by enemies and has 0 block so he almost not need a healer in most standard stages

[dark violet]

honeyberry is nice, but you're far from caring about elemental damage, and eyjalter kinda made her useless

[dark violet]

yeah, and is a great bait for missile drones

[glass monolith]

Owning Pudding Ethan and Honeyberry can fill roles you might not have without gacha luck
Caper is like Kroos but not attacking drones first also attack speed based on distance

[dark violet]

and unique range

[vapid totem]

But having honey berry is very useful in clearing IS since she cost less hope to recruit

[dark violet]

I'm using her in my trust squad to farm the e2 chips, and she does a good job

[hazy creek]

So should I get all three

Or could I get some later

[dark violet]

I guess, but I never had a reason to pick her, and I cleared all the IS

[dark violet]

hberry can wait

when you hit the elemental damage wall and need something

[vapid totem]

I guess

[hazy creek]

So rn I should get pudding and Ethan?

[dark violet]

ethan and caper

[vapid totem]

Yes

[hazy creek]

Alright I'll go farm certs and get them

[glass monolith]

Elemental damage is awkward thing when most of times it is either too small to bother healing or too much to heal it in time
I used in mainly in annihilation because I AM NOT HERE FOR 20 MINUTES TO CONSTANTLY ROTATE BAITS I HAD ENOUGH SINCE JT8-3

[dark violet]

It was pretty great for SN and UT events

including the CC and anni

but otherwise in IS it's rarely worth caring yeah

[glass monolith]

And IS has whole difficulty thing and on high difficulty there is just too much to heal because all those multipliers just stacked against you

[dark violet]

it just instant triggers

[vapid totem]

I think the OP's you ought to prioritize in building are sussuro, gravel, melantha, lava, gummy, and cuora, liskarm is also good

Once you get myrtle, try to also build her

[dark violet]

myrtle is useless, there's already flametail and saileach

[vapid totem]

It's actually alright if myrtle is only elite 1 lvl 1 since it is more important for her to increase her skills level to as high as you can

[vapid totem]

Actually myrtle is better than saileach because she is cheaper and has faster skill rotation

[dark violet]

yeah, but it only matters for high end content

we're far from needing that here

[spark sinew]

in actually hard content (if you do it) you kinda want sail p6 anyway i thought

and sail gives more dp starting from second skill

so faster skill rotation basically does nothing

[dark violet]

myrtle has a neat vanguard regen skill

I've benefitted from it for CC 620

myrtle and flametail combo goes hard

[hazy creek]

Shouldn't I upgrade ptilo instead of sussuro

[spark sinew]

agreed
also gummy is kinda ew

[dark violet]

gummy is good for IS

aka not here

[spark sinew]

i think you can try and raise base ops (gravel frostleaf shira) and get say purestream, all to e1, so your Base produces more stuff
and push the story in the meantime, since ideally you wouldn't want to farm ls-4 (so clearing it can wait)

gummy isn't good in is

maybe she will be in IS5, but i think you would still rather cuora/bubble

[dark violet]

when you don't have nearl, she's still a good option

[vapid totem]

Sussuro is cheap and heals so much, I don't know about ptilo but I actually prefer perfumer over her

[spark sinew]

IS5 makes 4* cost 0 hope

[hazy creek]

Everyone is saying to upgrade different ops idk what to do anymore

[spark sinew]

so difficulty increase should push it to 1

did you try #help

[hazy creek]

What's the difference

[dark violet]

here is more for clearing stages

[spark sinew]

yeah i think your question goes way beyond just clearing one stage

[hazy creek]

Wouldn't I get the same advice

[spark sinew]

i think you'll get the advise to raise base ops

[hazy creek]

You're right

[dark violet]

anyway, what hauckindu said. And flametail

then look into the red cert ops

[spark sinew]

also since you're so early, caper should be way better pick up

if you actually want to use them now

i would save the rest for the 90 red certs thingies (commonly called "glue")

[dark violet]

yeah, caper/ethan are the best unique options to get from there. Roles you can't fill with others

what's that 90 glue?

[hazy creek]

Chip material ig

[dark violet]

oh that

[spark sinew]

god knows i won't remember actual name in a couple minutes

[dark violet]

I forgot it was a thing, I farmed that crap for two years so I don't buy those anymore

no more

[hazy creek]

Should I get all of their contracts or just one of each

[dark violet]

one for now

first is the op, rest is just potency tokens

[spark sinew]

1 of caper and save the rest

even then i wouldn't farm red certs

until you can do highest stage - 5 (you can't right now)

[hazy creek]

I bought Ethan and have 0 rn

[dark violet]

get caper and forget about red certs for a while yeah

[spark sinew]

then ignore the shop, promoting stuff to e1 takes prio

[hazy creek]

Will do

[dark violet]

daily gives some red certs

I think around 5-15?

[hazy creek]

When should I promote ops to e2

[dark violet]

when you can

[spark sinew]

what's the roster again

[dark violet]

start by flametail

[spark sinew]

ideally you rush someone to e2 ASAP

usually it's 4* because they're cheaper

[dark violet]

then it just depends if you got other good 6* to e2, or the ones that benefit most