strategy

[smoky halo]

also has nearl so healing pressure even less

yes

[ocean ether]

that sounds cursed lol

[shy hull]

i have silence but not at e1

[smoky halo]

well if ur willing to e1

shes better

ptlopsis bottom lane

kick red for gravel btw u want someone tanky

to bait the shots from arts drones

[shy hull]

so when do i remove the top vanguard?

[smoky halo]

when the invi dudes stop spawning

around 250?

i dont remember tbh

but im sure past 300 no invi dudes spawn anymroe

[ocean ether]

top vanguard can be removed at 100 iirc

[shy hull]

alright and i bait the top art drone?

[smoky halo]

nah the art drones goes zig zag thru entire field

[shy hull]

ill try

[smoky halo]

just drop gravel when theyre near ur team

[smoky halo]

defintiely not at 100

[ocean ether]

https://youtu.be/jq4Qy94GukI?si=B3sVKdXxF5R-cNHP&t=103

[shy hull]

ok just trying to get some books atm to level my silence skill

i take skill 2?

[smoky halo]

but they used spot

[ocean ether]

to block invis guys

[smoky halo]

my strat just uses vg to block

[ocean ether]

might as well just leave vg there all the way

[smoky halo]

deploy slot kinda tight

u would have 0 slots left for gravel

[shy hull]

hm ill try it

[celest bluff]

What do I farm now

[spice mortar]

The event

[lusty basin]

is-5-cm is a funny reminder there's one 6* protector in kernel and zero in standard

not hard to work around it or anything, just amusing how most tanks are actually made of paper

[proud dune]

I can’t get the limos to explode like the game wants

[ember fiber]

i dont bother trying to do that, just leave one or 2 units at the end to wait for the limo

[celest bluff]

Huh

[tidal sedge]

I assume they're frustrated by repeated blood debt procs and are having trouble with cleaners

[proud dune]

I’m trying to do the task for them

[ember fiber]

Get a mulesyse from support then, clone a castor

You can borrow mine if u want, maxed out lv 90 s3

[proud dune]

How does she kill them for the task?

[ember fiber]

She clones other units

Copy a castor

S3 binds

[proud dune]

Binds seems nice, yeah

[ember fiber]

Summon 5 clones

S3

When copying a ranged operator

Increase atk by 50%

[bold lance]

Pretty sure Eben one taps limos

[proud dune]

I did it with a Mumu

Now I need to beat EX-8 challenge and that medal is miiiiine

[lusty basin]

oh no frustration, I was mostly taken aback how phase 2 swipes were one-shots for a lot of ops

lotta ways around it ofc since there's nothing complex mechnically going on there

also being two-hit just naturally exposes deficiencies in DEF

[fiery marsh]

Skadi s3 in AH takes it like a champ at least for enough time to kill it

[narrow patrol]

So I hate to say it but is8 has me stumped

I’m badly@overwhelmed by the sheer volume of enemies

[narrow patrol]

The I ly@iffit im seeing is e175

[surreal star]

getting a better ifrit borrow should do it

[tidal sedge]

I hate farming IS-10

Certain blood debt timings helping to kill civs is so stupid

[vivid rain]

Smh imagine not farming ores from previous event

[pure pasture]

ok dumb question here but could someone spot me on this annihalation run for a bit. im on the last chunk and its usually where i choke

[peak cloak]

what are you talking about?

[pure pasture]

im trying to finish decaying wastes but around 350 is where i start failing im not sure exacctly why i am tho. I need a little strategic guidance

[peak cloak]

send ops

[pure pasture]

The image is a bit blurry sry

I also have cuora gravel beagle and Texas on standby

im also in vc if ur able to talk

[remote perch]

whats with the goofy ass placement

why is mountain behind horn
why is silence facing right

[peak cloak]

are you having troubles with the oneshot guys?

[pure pasture]

By one shot guys u mean the devourer guys?

@remote perch also i dont see the problem it's gotten me this far

[pure pasture]

ya! those guys

[peak cloak]

okay, can u send your whole operators?

[pure pasture]

including the ones on standby? sure one sec

[peak cloak]

go to operator tab

then screenshots them

[pure pasture]

Im in the mission rn tho

that's why i specified the whole 'last chunk' part

[rich rune]

Idk how, but I managed to get to level 94 in IS3 without ever dabbling into the cognitive shaping or whatever it's called. And I almost managed to beat floor 5 a couple times along the way.

[scarlet mortar]

so you.... died a lot

understandable ig

[rich rune]

Yes. But now I've maxed it out and I've already cleared floor 5 once.

[pure pasture]

@peak cloak nevermind actually i managed to pull it off. had to sacrifice beagle texas and gravel a lot tho 😅

[peak cloak]

the simpliest way is to bait them and u did it

[pure pasture]

@peak cloak the red devour guys were probably the most annoying

But now all I have to worry about from now on is simply getting my 1800 per week

[flint falcon]

just clear once and get the rest through the autoplay tics

[pure pasture]

Yup that's what I meant

[vernal lion]

@glass monolith

I really love the RNG of this game tho

[glass monolith]

Skill check failed

[shy hull]

@smoky halo @ocean ether finally completed lungmen downtown using a thorns i accidentally got from a 10 pull and a borrowed typhoon

[smoky halo]

noice

[shy hull]

Thanks for the advices

Quick question, i dont have a good tank and im saving for shu, since i did downtown i have 180 certs now, should i get mudrock?

[smoky halo]

no

mudrock is irrelevant

in the year 2024

i still use cuora

[shy hull]

I see, duly noted thanks

[smoky halo]

and she works just fine in all content that i play

even in h12-4 and d15 IS4

[ocean ether]

Gj

[ocean ether]

Eh, despite me buying mudrock recently, I have to say unless you are looking for AFK strat or for waifu, Murdock is a hard no

Doubly so if you are f2p or dolphin. You should save gold certs for pulls because upcoming banners for next 6 months are all on crack

You arent at the point where you should care about AFK strat anyways

P.S there are basically no shop ops worth purchasing from now until Anniv 5 for an F2P unless they already secured at least 300 pulls right now.

Reason being that the new ops within these 6 months will bascially powercreep everyone
Degen being a sidegrade to mlynar
Shu being best healing defender with teleport mechanics
Reedic... eh is this a medic or best caster? Anyways she is on rerun
Zuo Le being best musha
Ela being best trapmaster (and partially powercreep suzu with global fragile)
Ray being sidegrade to typhon
Ascalon being best ambusher (but skip her lol)
Logos powercreeping entire caster class
Walter powercreeping all DPSes

[glass monolith]

I shoperator Kernel operators for collection

[normal ferry]

First try

Hmm.. never expected bosses attack at P2 that stonk

What was its atk?

[glass monolith]

1000 +50% + double hit

[normal ferry]

So 3000 not thinking def check?

[glass monolith]

CM will be 1100 +65% (double hit still there)

[normal ferry]

Seems like killing it with low def op was bad idea i see

And kind obviously it had freeze immune

(Still it gets chill though)

[glass monolith]

He is not stun immune in phase 2

(Pulls out Eunectes S2)

[normal ferry]

So likely for freeze too?

[glass monolith]

Stun is not freeze

[normal ferry]

Yeah but mostly share immune table

Guess I’ll drop eben and mud for someone else

[turbid badge]

pulls out muelseye s3

(basically the same )

[glass monolith]

Snek is not limited so bonus style points

Also existed on original run of event

[ivory leaf]

Is vergil worth the drag?

And is Ex fed (forgot his name) worth pulling?

[foggy grove]

no and no

executor is good but standard banner is bad

[ivory leaf]

Owkeh

[ocean ether]

typhon S3 bascially 1 cycles and tracks the boss even as it changes positions

[normal ferry]

yeah i'm considering her now

since boss isn't seems that durable

just quite hard to block unless it is actual defender

[glass monolith]

(Looks on my S2 Silverash blocking cleaner because i run out of actual defenders)

[ocean ether]

theres always the Kal + typhon + ifrit instant delete button LOL

or virtuosa S1 / S3 during P2

[normal ferry]

I was thinking Ifrit+Surtr+Saria art burst too

[ocean ether]

necrosis is the bane of this boss, he goes from hitting like a truck, to tickling your ops

[normal ferry]

trying Necrosis also gonna be good idea in that way?

[turbid badge]

does logos have lock in

[normal ferry]

Maybe I gonna try Eben+Virtuosa
both are my Necrosis source

[ocean ether]

I just went virtuosa + typhon + ifrit + kal and then killed it right after the first box so cant really say much

[normal ferry]

(idk how Eben's Necrosis work, cause most of time, he just killed thing before I see elemental burst)

[ocean ether]

S1 for virtuosa more reliable, but thats provided you have M3 lol

S3 is a very short burst (2 cycles of necrosis)

for long downtime

if you fail to kill during S3 uptime, you bascially cant apply necrosis anymore

[normal ferry]

Kinda cause unlike Ritualist's specialized Elemental damages, non-Ritualist's elemental damage based on damage dealt
For example, If art dps like eben deals elemental damage, elemental damage gated by RES

[normal ferry]

I only have S3M3 for now for Virtuosa

[ocean ether]

lock in as in hard pity?

[normal ferry]

hmm.. maybe just putting big damage should work, right?

[ocean ether]

should be enough

[normal ferry]

good news

gonna optimize my strat and try it later

thanks for advise

[ocean ether]

you just need to down him before you clear two cycles of necrosis

[normal ferry]

Well I belive in my art dpses

shouldn't be even much matter

I have to more care about cleaner though

[shy hull]

going after shuu and w alter+logos banner

[normal ferry]

The super hard hitting ranged enemy one with stealth

so annoying, I don't want see it after this event

I made my conclusion with Lumen S3 +Skadi S3 though for that thing

[ocean ether]

p.s virtuosa can nerf them with necrosis

if they revealed anyways

[normal ferry]

also freeze works on them very sweet

[ocean ether]

I would say, just let mud handle the hard hitting ranged enemies, left side with saria + aoe caster, then you can concentrate everyone to deal with boss on right before he even goes through 2nd corridor

[normal ferry]

Alright

Idk why boss stucked at corner but I did it

[ocean ether]

gratz

[worldly stirrup]

Now do CM

[glass monolith]

S-5 CM is probably most chill stat wise, jsut +10% to all

[normal ferry]

Should be, though I want try different strat for that though

[glass monolith]

Huh, i just noticed one of cars in IS-8 does double U turn before going after you

[ocean ether]

sounds like lore related or a joke like the jaywalker in stage 8

[glass monolith]

I didn't read lore but i know IS-8 is road crossing and one of civilians runs on "red light", while one of first cars pass it right before/after red light for cars

[ocean ether]

all the people living dangerously... smh

[scarlet mortar]

there's no lore

it's just the map designers fucking around

[glass monolith]

Like that theme of fire bomb and freeze bomb drones looking for each other in some maps?

[latent monolith]

Drones have more rizz than me
That stage was fun tho

[sly drift]

Siracusano Contigency theme. When

[glass monolith]

+2 Sweeper spawn. Sweeper invisibility can't be revealed without blocking. Attack range. Attack speed

[sly drift]

But fuck it why HG still insist to remove bosses on every new CC

I'm so mad 😡

💢💢💢

[glass monolith]

Uh.... Not every old CC had boss

CC6 - Crocs, Crocs everywhere. CC8 - Mini bosses. CC9 - Mini boss duped. CC11 - Rofl

[sly drift]

But removing Eblana and Endspeaker that supposedly make the stage much more interesting is basically a crime

Manfred flashback

[glass monolith]

How the fuck do you integrate Eblana into CC without gutting her stats to nothingness like CC7/CC10

She does 1000 elemental damage (full fucking bar) of burning on skill

[sly drift]

Yea

[glass monolith]

HP down - you die to burn
ATK up - you die to initial damage
Not to mention she just set everything on fire on phase 2 making it impossible to control fire with deploy/squad limits

[narrow patrol]

Screaming

Lappland died

Needless to say this@didn’t go well

[sly drift]

Still.. HG can adjust this and that to make cc1 with eblana possible.

And hard af stage is the reason why Contigency Contract exist

Wouldn't blame if shit is "Too hard"

[vernal lion]

reworked CC just gives more broken risk/buff, which is felt like unbalanced

but in other fact, that makes you think of picking the right op to counter that

[sly drift]

Thing is unbalanced. But it's still "You" that make stage unbalanced

You create the difficulty

[vernal lion]

yes, you pick the insanity thing, you solve the insanity thing

and also don't blame that CC is hard 'cause you haven't solved it right

[glass monolith]

CC10 is hard because i don't want to mald god damn cannon timing

[vernal lion]

wait for SL CC

[glass monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1243550658263781506/StupidCockroachIdiot.gif

[vernal lion]

imagine W powercreeping herself

smh

[long lotus]

Walter powercrept everyone including herself

[glass monolith]

U-Official alter summons Hoereder alter

[merry narwhal]

The EN caption confuses me. she's saying "could you stop thinking I'm stupid?! I knew at least this much!"

[glass monolith]

It is like KEK guy, it doesn't matter what being talked about, emotion matter

[ivory leaf]

What should I prioritise, Penance Module or Horn module

[cyan gorge]

Penance

[ivory leaf]

Okey dokey

[cyan gorge]

Horn doesn't gain nearly as much from her mod

[vivid rain]

Horn should gains a lot more damage from her mod, no?

[lethal dragon]

https://youtu.be/C_1duqyyYJA

[ocean ether]

anyone here has a pot 5 S1M3 lvl 90 virtuosa, wondering if she can instant necrosis with 1 hit of her skill

Mine is at lvl 60 and contemplating if I should bring her to 90... but not with all the ops I need to raise unless she actually instant necrosis

[cyan gorge]

Penance survivability > Horn damage imo
Horn is super strong even without mod

[latent monolith]

Can't you just like

mafs it

[ocean ether]

the translations are confusing How much dmg does she actually do

[latent monolith]

110% of atk, her talent at P5 buffs elemental damage taken by 22%

[ocean ether]

485 atk, 300% arts dmg, 110% atk, for s1M3,

[latent monolith]

Ye the arts damage is separate to necrosis

525 atk because trust

[ocean ether]

so 704 necrosis damage?

[latent monolith]

704.55 yes

768.6 with one talent proc

[ocean ether]

• 52.5 / sec

[latent monolith]

More because talent buff

64.05

[ocean ether]

right... 64.05

hmmm, sounds like impossible to 1 proc

[latent monolith]

warf her

[ocean ether]

attack interval is 1.6

[latent monolith]

Skalter maybe

[ocean ether]

she wastes her 2nd hit on enemy which will be about 90% necrosis

this honestly sounds like a "module will probably save her" moment, but thats more than 6 months away for sure

approx 896.7 necrosis damage before she attacks 2nd time, needs 1000 to proc

[latent monolith]

Should easily be able to insta proc if you just throw in like skalter

[civic bear]

the p5 virtousa thing is only for is

[ocean ether]

I am using her as laneholder alone for trust farm

[civic bear]

cuz skilltrees

else its 2 hits no matter what

[ocean ether]

and yes, everyone apart from typhon is there to trust farm

[amber jackal]

How do i clear IS S 5 , these are my ops

Challenge mode

[ocean ether]

this looks perfectly doable

kal to block right with typhon S3 to dmg

[amber jackal]

I also have to use ling and they still leak

Support liny

[ocean ether]

ling is bad if you have to bring other ops with you

I assume you have myrtle?

[amber jackal]

Ik but my monstr just dies

Yeah i do

[ocean ether]

obliterated by boss?

[amber jackal]

I guess it is doable my im just dumb

[amber jackal]

Yes boss and that car

Also the invisible marksman is a pain

[ocean ether]

eh, do you have shamare or virtuosa

[amber jackal]

Nope

Thats all the 6 stars i have

I have mostima which i didnt buildi

even if i manage to hold the right lane

ops in the left lane die and the stage ends

[ocean ether]

i am not sure about lin, but does she survive the attacks from the invisible marksman?

if that is the case, you can place her with ines reveal and get her to smack them

[amber jackal]

..... i didnt try using her

wait i will try that

im out of sanity sob

[latent monolith]

Do you mean kal's summon?

[amber jackal]

yeah

[latent monolith]

For kal you're better off placing her to cover middle

Her S3 has a fast enough cycle and onskill mon3tr can easily beat the cleaner

And just having Ines shadow reveal them a bit earlier probably also helps

[amber jackal]

yeah but

how do i manage the other lanes

boss wouldnt be problem tbh i can typhon and surtr him atlast

but killing all other enemies is hard

[latent monolith]

Penance left lane

Maybe throw in a bit of support later on

[amber jackal]

i guess its abt the timing tho

[latent monolith]

A levelled one should solo with good skill timing but you can add another op to help

They should be able to help mid too with enough range

[amber jackal]

i have her with lvl 60 module max yeah

what abt right lane

the boss one

[latent monolith]

I'm going to be honest I don't really remember much I just three everything I had there

But pozy typhon surtr etc are good

Maybe take a nian to tank

[amber jackal]

ok

[ocean ether]

sub eyja for gg and mud for penance

[amber jackal]

Yo thnx 😭

I will do it later cuz im f2p and sanity is a pain in the ass

Thank u very much tho 🙏🏿

[ocean ether]

ptilo honestly not needed

also, maybe drop texalter at 2:09 to assist instead of being like me trying to AFK

[amber jackal]

Ok

I will maybe borrow yato or sum for better chances 😭

I do not wana fuck up anything again

[ocean ether]

you are honestly better off bringing a heavy tank like hoshi and piling more heals on her rather than monstr

because your kal is low level

[amber jackal]

Mostr has true dmg tho

Wait yeah

He will just die

Bc ion got no module and is lvl 10 only

I could lvl and module rm

But like i wanna sabe lmd for degen

[ocean ether]

you will have enough time, she is still about a month away

and module will be at least 2 weeks after getting her

[amber jackal]

Wtf

I thought she is like next week

God they streching shit to 7-8 months now ☹️

[ocean ether]

no, next week is CC, then degen

1 month away for degen, give or take a few days

[amber jackal]

Sad how kalskit was my second or sum op

And i didnt build her until like a month ago

I used to just e1 s2

Had a mlynar acc i lost it

[ocean ether]

Btw, why not just wait a day for practice to refill

[amber jackal]

I dont evenn use practice

They are filled rn

Waiting on sanity

Might practise 1 or 2 times before doing with sanity

[ocean ether]

[void terrace]

Damn cloning eyja with muelse is actually pretty insane

Eyja s2 plus muelse skill 3 just provided a loooooot of arts dmg

It's like having 6 casters for 2 deployment slots

Eyja talent also applies before deployment so the clones get the atk buff too

[neat skiff]

It's just a shame Muel needs tier 3 module for 100% stat copy instead of 90%

[narrow patrol]

So any idea how I can clear is ex 3 with this roster?

I don’t have a lot@of better ops/guards in oarticular I can raise

And no really good defenders either

Im@thinking of raising a duelist guard mainly to handle the sweeper up top but again. I don’t really have any good options

[worldly stirrup]

borrow kaltsit to spawn kill the cleaner

place ines shadow sentry first near top red box to reveal invis

and then deploy mont3r

since you have mlynar, you shouldn't have any problems with bottom lane

[narrow patrol]

So should I put Mlynar at like the very back by the blue zones because my issue is lack of spots to properly deploy him an

And handle those limos

And no he is not level 60 with masteries. I don’t think doing masteries this early is a good idea without a lot@of good units

So I dunno

Also need a good holder hold that corner there and@I simply lack good juggernauts like penance to compliment Mlynar

Honestly want more defenders as my@roster@is painfully lacking in that regard

[worldly stirrup]

you just need a few defender, and stall them untill mlynar skill is ready

defender e1 lvl 50 is fine

and just reminder
for cm mode of this stage, "defender and guard block-1"

[thick cradle]

which medic can counteract the status effect of enemies in penumbra shipyards ?

[worldly stirrup]

eyja alter

[rich rune]

The stun and defense cuts or the nervous impairment?

[thick cradle]

thanks.

yes

[narrow patrol]

This isn’t challenge mode and I don’t have any good defenders

[worldly stirrup]

what defender you have?

if you have spot, gummy, or cuora. they work fine

they are easy to get from recruitment

[narrow patrol]

No cuora just spot gummy beagle

Not enough

[worldly stirrup]

yeah those 3 work fine

[narrow patrol]

The 3 end up dying and getting overwhelmed before Mlynar skill is up

I feel like I lack raw firepower

[worldly stirrup]

what about your healer?

[narrow patrol]

Not@just Mlynar but I need more ops in general like defenbrecher

The healers aren’t out as I’m trying to deploy my sniper in order to help tear through the@mobs

And thing is with all my resources focused on stopping the mobs not lane I won’t have anyone I can use to reliably tank the sweeper

[cyan gorge]

Borrow someone that can

[narrow patrol]

Also I’m deploying Mlynar on the hollow 2 squares on the street

I feel like it’s too far forward but not a@lot of ground tiles

I’d really like penance for holding the@corner but man the sweeper outrages my silence. Only healer I got aside from her is perfumer

[cyan gorge]

Try something like this

[narrow patrol]

I feel like this is a poor spot for Mlynar honestly

[cyan gorge]

Kal borrow

[narrow patrol]

I tried

It went poorly as I keep deploying monster too early

[cyan gorge]

use arts for the cars too

Lava does the job

[worldly stirrup]

deploy mont3r when cleaner spawn

and if spot died
just deploy another defender

[cyan gorge]

you can also use Kal skill early for def buff so monster will live before blocking the sweeper

[worldly stirrup]

btw 2 ifrit lane

[thick cradle]

Do I win this ?

Eyja alter , Pallas , Lapluma , Skalter
Saria , Lappland , Thorns , Ifrit

I hope I win.

[glass monolith]

Creep spawners will go on Pallas La Pluma side and fuck everything up

As an option

[thick cradle]

what are creep spawners ? how do I fix this?

[rich rune]

Hard to go wrong with that kind of stack.

[thick cradle]

Do I need more block on top ? I just chose highest damage melee ops i have

[rich rune]

Maybe Liskarm for SP support for either Pallas or La Pluma so you can proc their skills more often.

[thick cradle]

Damn.. I'm gonna add someone behind Lapluma because she is taking necrosis damage

she is out of eyja alter range

[turbid badge]

its actually nerve imparement not nexrosis 🤓

[thick cradle]

Okay. I added bagpipe behind her. but Ideally i would have brought some one else. but too late now.

let's see how it goes.

Hopefully nobody leaks even if Lapluma gets stunned because Bagpipe & Apple pie are on backup duty and Apple pie is maxed out to the gills. she should melt everything that touches her tile.

[narrow patrol]

Yeah that went poorly

Mlynar also got murdered so I lacked raw firepower

[rich rune]

I say cut La Pluma and put a defender there, place Pallas behind the defender and put Eyja alter where you had Pallas.

[cyan gorge]

how tf did Mlynar die

Perf skill wasn't used

where Lava

[thick cradle]

next try I will..

[cyan gorge]

Chetto isn't doing much there

[rich rune]

Or maybe swap around Eyja and skalter positioning.

[narrow patrol]

What kal skill did@you@use because the one I’m borrowing has that meltdown skill. So monst3r does violently

[thick cradle]

Yes!!! I got it on my first try Let's fucking go!!!

NGL that spreading alien goo did take out my Lapluma & Bagpipe while I wasn't paying attention but apple pie was holding it down for me.

[cyan gorge]

I used s3 Kal, so yeah that's the right skill

though I used the skill a few seconds early for the extra defense

[narrow patrol]

Hmm I’m not@sure what I’m doing wrong as I am deploying monst3r on top of the sweeper

[cyan gorge]

so monster lives

[narrow patrol]

Thing is the skill is NOT ready when the sweeper is out

[cyan gorge]

prep her earlier then

[narrow patrol]

Can’t as I’m usually trying to tush@out spot to hold the corner andd prevent leaks

[cyan gorge]

you can place spot first

I deployed like this:
Spot > Fang > Mlynar > Kal > Lava > the rest

forgot I also used Ines s3 to clear the early wave

[worldly stirrup]

he also has ines tho

[narrow patrol]

Why is kal not facing monst3r

[cyan gorge]

she is

[narrow patrol]

This is one thing I did NOT use I prefer@her s2 for overall reliability

[cyan gorge]

both skills work

[narrow patrol]

I’m giving up for now as I’m out of practice planners

[cyan gorge]

as long as dp is generated

[narrow patrol]

I don’t want to waste sanity

[worldly stirrup]

or if kal and monster too expensive to deploy
you can also borrow surtr, and "just surtr it"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwrpZr4LNGE
ling also work

[narrow patrol]

I tried long I keep getting the timing off

I’ll just throw in the towel for now and focus on resources

I need more ops overall for options honestly. Roster’s pretty eh aside from my six stars

Not counting Lessing and Vigil

[scarlet mortar]

for EX-3 it's best if you kill the cars early tbh

as long as you don't block them

you don't want to deal with cleaners in the middle of setting up

[narrow patrol]

I lack the firepower@to do so

[thick cradle]

Golden Glow maxed with 3 SP chargers. 9 SP per sec. Global lazer show every 4 seconds.

I remember the days when this annihilation seemed near impossible. now the boss disappears before he can touch the front line.

[ocean ether]

you mean I have to press buttons every 4 secs? In anni? What is this, an early zuo le?

[thick cradle]

Button pressing is a commoner thing now ?

where are my deploy and forget ops ? I unfortunately don't have a maxed dragon lady who can solo every stage with her pet dragons.

[ocean ether]

button pressing is a commoner thing, the real strat is AFK

[thick cradle]

hmmm... yes yes... now everyone is doing it. even kyo... must be a lazy new hippy style of play.. facilitated by all these op operators.

[tidal sedge]

More like we've hit a critical mass of decent auto activation skills on 6*s

and infinite duration skills

[vivid rain]

Does anyone here have a raised vigil

I want to try vigil starter on is4 for the lulz

[peak cloak]

e290 m9 pot6 but i have no free friend slot rn.

[vernal lion]

doubled dp cost is kinda meh

[glass monolith]

Laugh in 10 DP Gravel

[vernal lion]

fuck it lol

ah yes, 6-block Saria

[tidal sedge]

I like how whetstone doubles pretty much all statistics

[vernal lion]

does scout's cope affect trapmaster's summon dmg

the more far away enemy from your op is, the more dmg they will be taken

[tidal sedge]

I have no idea

[vernal lion]

I just do burst strat

[karmic field]

How many lives need and what relics need to solo clear a15 Izumik stage with Yatoalter (Matter of mind squad)

[amber jackal]

yooooo

thnx bro

i cleared it after 2 tries

[ocean ether]

Gratz

[amber jackal]

i borrowed mlynar but i couldnt even use him bc of his skill charge

i just retreated him and the boss died early too

now i only need to do is-1 , 10 times

so i can get all medals

[clever bluff]

Halp

I can 2 star it no problem. It’s the big shooty enraged guy at the end and all the molotov all over the floor

[glass monolith]

#strategy message Nuke doggo

[dapper hedge]

Bring support, not like it's a farming stage

[clever bluff]

Recommendations?

The dog dies fast enough it’s the shooty thing one shotting me after 3 cocktails dropped

[glass monolith]

You can't die to coctail, if you not stayin in coctail

Bring gravel S2 or something to stall big shooty guy for some time, it is much easier to kill when red bar depleted

[clever bluff]

Killed the dog before he even summoned big enraged mask dude that time 😂

[glass monolith]

because it doesn't summon. mask dude invites himself into your life each time bar fills

And it goes up all the time, when you kill, when civilian commit not being alive, when you kill in range of funny dude.
Goes down from Civilians - 3 Civilians alive on map is enough to negate bar passive increase

[ocean ether]

why not just borrow texalter and then instant nuke?

[clever bluff]

Because I’m a newbie learning these things

Ok so I looked up what texalter was… yeah I need that unit. Completely trivialised the encounter 😂

[glass monolith]

She is limited and next time to gain her is in half year. Worry not during that half year we will get slapped with 4-5 more "need that unit"

[ocean ether]

you just missed her, she was off-rate on previous banner

but its okay, next 6 months is basically everyone getting powercrept

[clever bluff]

Yeah I’m not unfamiliar with the system 😂

[ocean ether]

@clever bluff ^ next 6 months

[clever bluff]

Well I don’t really have anyone anyway so I’m happy to sit and accumulate

[ocean ether]

degen is in less than a month so you can grab her

[clever bluff]

Only have 20k orundum anyway

[ocean ether]

as a new player, you can get more than 300 pulls in OP from stages

[clever bluff]

Yeah I only rerolled for mountain. Haven’t done anything crazy. Used the odd headhunting permit

I’m farming i5 now to clear out the event shop as much as I can but debating just going back to campaign and pushing that now

[ocean ether]

dont lol

theres at least 3 weeks without sanity event

CC is right after event, you dont need sanity to run it but... its not something a new player should even bother attempting

so for next 3 weeks, you have alot of time to push stages with sanity because no event until degen

[clever bluff]

So I’m not quite understanding your advice here. Don’t push campaign now?

[ocean ether]

event mats are more important than campaign right now

because outside of event, drop rates are annoying

[clever bluff]

True. I’ve just got pinecone as my first e2 and working on mountain next. Those circuits are a pain but need campaign progression for those

[ocean ether]

#bot-spam message

[clever bluff]

I’m nowhere near able to farm 10

[ocean ether]

its probably doable with a borrow

[ocean ether]

you can at least reach 10 with this team, just borrow someone like ifrit for 8

typhon completely trivalizes 10, but borrow means manual farm lol

[clever bluff]

Stuck on 7 now

[ocean ether]

still, should be possible with your current team

whats the issue with 7?

[clever bluff]

Been a couple days let me do a run now and I’ll tell ya

[ocean ether]

if you are on bluestacks, you can record and just send here

[ocean ether]

also, if you are stuck consider looking at videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdGSWfTxo8A

[clever bluff]

Nah I’m not I’m afraid. Just a casual iPhone noob 😂

[cyan gorge]

You can screen record on iPhone

[clever bluff]

Never mind. Between the e2 pinecone, e1’ing my healers and tbh texalter it was easy 😂

[peak cloak]

control center, there is a circle button

[clever bluff]

Tex carried that fight so easily 😂😂😂

[glass monolith]

Kernel banner - 3+ year old 6* and 5* operators who were removed from standard to free up space. Avoid pulling it with / because you won't gain valuable Gold Certificate from it.
Standard banner - Almost all banners which are not limited and few exceptions.
Limited banner - 4 times per year banner (For Global/JP January - Summer, ~May - Celebration 1, ~August - CNY, ~November - Celebration 2) - because we have half year shift compared to CN which we copy. Has Limited unit. You can't get it anywhere outside of same banner type (Summer / CNY / Celebration). And 1 year must pass before unit appear as offbanner (Texas alter was in last Celebration 1 after skipping last year Celebration 2)
Collab banner - When some big collab happens (small collabs can just give you stuff as login reward etc). No guarantee when/if they return. We will have R6 collab and rerun of first R6 collab later this year.
Average pulling strategy in AK is set goal for some banner and save toward it. Then save toward next one. etc.

[clever bluff]

I’ve no idea what I’m saving for. I just know I’m not pulling 😂

[peak cloak]

u are new after all, just enjoy the game while u still can

[clever bluff]

Yeah I’m enjoying it. Just not sure what the banner is I should pull from. I’m only on 20k orundum now so

[glass monolith]

Best time to enjoy game is event when you stop enjoying game as soon as red bar fills

[peak cloak]

((

[clever bluff]

Yeah e2 mountain would be wonderful

Those circuits are a pain to get

[glass monolith]

Rock is easy to get. And game compensate it by making you need like 5-10 times more rock that anything else

[clever bluff]

Work in progress. Can’t make it yet got those from IS and this event I think

[vernal lion]

you still have a very long, long, and long way to go

[remote perch]

you can spam IS for those if you're willing to

[weak gazelle]

take it easy and progress with your own pace

[clever bluff]

Circuits? I think I can push to IS10 tbh

[vernal lion]

I think he means IS gamemode, not the stage

[cyan gorge]

Integrated Strategies

[vernal lion]

or IS for short

[ocean ether]

imagine telling new players to go IS to farm T5 mats, and they go farm event shop

[ocean ether]

do you have story chapter 4 unlocked?

[clever bluff]

Yeah. I’m on 4-5

[ocean ether]

then you will have IS unlocked and can start getting materials from there

[clever bluff]

Think you need 5-3 to be able to produce circuits.

[ocean ether]

IS is the shortcut to getting fast E2s

[clever bluff]

You also need your own units to do IS properly

[ocean ether]

nah, they can be roughly completed with 1 borrow

[cyan gorge]

as long as you have your 3*s raised and a few 6 star carries, you win

[ocean ether]

in terms of newbie difficulty
IS3 > IS2 > IS4

[clever bluff]

Do the monthly mapping rewards reset monthly? I’ve done a few this week

[ocean ether]

only for IS4, the bottomost one

[clever bluff]

See I’ve done a few. I got the gist of how it works

[vernal lion]

still level 0

welp, just do deep exploration

[ocean ether]

click top right

[clever bluff]

Didn’t say I was good. Did them for the contract rewards to e2 pinecone 😂

[ocean ether]

the bulk of IS rewards are in its "season pass"

which is top right

[clever bluff]

Yeah just seen that. So get as far as you can, reset and level up the “battle pass”

[ocean ether]

okay so the thing is

IS3 and IS2 have 3 different modes

deep explore
monthly squad
and the actual normal explore

you dont get any points to season for doing deep explore and monthly

and because IS3 and IS2 are old IS, all the deep explore and monthly are opened to you to rush through

[clever bluff]

Sounds like a lot to wrap my pea brain around.

[hearty sphinx]

basically think of deep explo and monthly squad as additional features that give more rewards but not exp

whereas normal expeditions give only exp (for battlepass thingy)

[clever bluff]

So what’s the priority for someone like me? I’m kind of overwhelmed now by the options

[hearty sphinx]

just select monthly squad and go till floor 3 for its reward (one time per monthly squad)

do that with every monthly squad

then do normal expeditions and fill out battlepass

ignore deep explorationd for now

[clever bluff]

Only the most recent monthly squad rewards reset right?

[hearty sphinx]

they don't reset, it's a one time reward

since IS3 and IS2 are finished

[clever bluff]

Why call it a monthly squad then

[hearty sphinx]

it was a monthly squad

but it's finished

it does function like a monthly squad in IS4 though

it changes every month because IS4 is unfinished

[clever bluff]

Should I e1 all the three stars then

[hearty sphinx]

all?

no

ask in #help

[ivory leaf]

Who should I upgrade (mods)
Hoshi,exu,penance

[soft crystal]

Cause is2 called it monthly squads

They come in monthly before until they stopped updating IS2 then Is3 came along with their monthly squads and so on

[vernal lion]

because it's for different squad every month

[glass monolith]

Get used to them randomly rename some stuff without announcing
I still remember Sanctuary being named Shelter.
IS2 ending 1 being "Crying over milk"

[remote pike]

How many rolls can we get until the walter banner guys

[vernal lion]

because cat likes milk 🤓

[glass monolith]

I would call 170-ish assuming you skip everything, while doing daily, weekly, annihilation, green cert shop, event shop, 14 logins things on Shu... Wait does R6 collabs do any throwing at players?
Oh and don't ask me where are my calculation . They all went into skins

[clever bluff]

Cool I asked for a list of suggested 3* ops to e1 in #help

[clever bluff]

Recommended borrow for IS8?

[glass monolith]

Time to commit Ling - she in supporter tab

[clever bluff]

Only have Virtuosa 😂

And sometimes suzuran

[ocean ether]

go to #friend-id and add people

[remote pike]

Thx u :3

[vivid rain]

Either ifrit for the ifrit strat or executor alter for the exalt strat

[ocean ether]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12nugJxtTLFafudEJ_NrFuEm2X4VHrfCRkbyzMxia63A/edit?pli=1#gid=1221900186
assume date is 21 or 28 june

I suggest you assume the earliest

If you too lazy to calculate, its 32.3 pulls W monthly and 22.9 without monthly based on 3rd week of june assumption

[glass monolith]

Dude you drunk Walter in October/November

[ocean ether]

oh wait, he is asking walter not degen

I am blind

If its Walter, assume 01/11 and its 324.9 W monthly and 263.1 w/o monthly card

I highly doubt its going to be on first november, so thats just an estimated date

[glass monolith]

That's including making all into pull, right?

[ocean ether]

yep

it excludes being a new player though, new player have close to 1.5k OP from stages iirc

thats bascially 450 pulls

[north jungle]

For optimal performance for Abyssal Hunter team, which members to include?

[ocean ether]

spalter (limited) + gladiia are core

if you dont have spalter, dont bother

[peak cloak]

Reed alter

NikoRU#5710 if u needed that

i will wait 20-30mins )

[clever bluff]

It’s all good I’m gonna log for the day it’s later here thank you

[delicate moth]

i don´t understand as to why Eyjaf alter and Myrtle take nervous impairment dmg can someone figure out a reason? cuz i read through the enemies and none of em mention having global dmg like this

[acoustic slate]

It’s the boss stage item in your hand like I said

[delicate moth]

i´ll take a look if i get it again

i see

[next wigeon]

@finite spindle here's my IS-S-5 Normal run

The CM run is more RNG reliant due to Exalt Talent

So I didn't do it

[next wigeon]

Oh CM

Tbh its the same team for me

Just abit more Rng reliant and needing proper focus

Left side is flimsy

Mountain can't regen fast enough while Exalt can't be healed at all

The middle can survive just more panic inducing when you didn't press Ptilopsis on time

Nice

You just needed some luck that's all

I only used Texalt for that

Tbh

You barely have any healers

No wonder you were struggling

[mild fox]

why is talulah targeting the npc

[next wigeon]

Do you have Ifrit?

[ashen axle]

[cyan gorge]

Mlynar with buffs deletes boss

[next wigeon]

Tbh you could have just tried the slow and steady strategy

Or just use Mylnar

Hoshi with 3 Healers and a Mylnar would have been enough tbh

Ptilopsis S2 for middle

[cyan gorge]

Kal soloes middle if you have her

[next wigeon]

Mon3tr very tanky and hurts a ton

Needs proper timing after all and focus

I remember seeing a Yato Alt solo for ZT-10

[cyan gorge]

Mine looked like this Pozy and Horn were never deployed

[next wigeon]

Nice

At least it was insurance

Did you use Mylnar on the boss?

A Mylnar cycle should have been enough to avoid the debuff

Because he can easily remove 20% off

Tbf you are using only Myrtle

I used Ines and Myrtle for mine

Mine was from a heavily modified easy guide

[deft badger]

do i yolo it?

[next wigeon]

The original guide used Ifrit to kill the boss

[next wigeon]

Do have everyone else?

Also left side was held by Eyja S2 with Saria

Which I don't have

So Mountain and Exalt it was

The middle was Blaze

And the healers was Shining, Nightingale, Purestream and Warfarin

[deft badger]

well healing i would like NG but yeah rng is a b- 😄

[next wigeon]

I have Shining but she's E0 lvl 50

[next wigeon]

Gamba for NG

The power of proper planning

[deft badger]

well did just the top op tag and i got exu lol

[next wigeon]

Well you have something for the Drones ig

I used this guide
https://youtu.be/Yc43AnPM_bA?si=J6XuXFsVXlRcSzMx

[cyan gorge]

Or bring Pozy and ignore the debuff entirely

How I cleared last year

[next wigeon]

How does Pozy ignore the debuff?

Burst wolf down?

[cyan gorge]

Can’t debuff the turret

That with Shamare doll shreds boss

[next wigeon]

Lol

Yknow you could have followed this guide
https://youtu.be/-OubHHqzsto?si=1kgcCDKWsHp_yzgX

Just replace the low star stuff with your own stuff

Rip

Ye

Are you ready for Degen Event

Heard it was really hard because Harold nuked stuff

Nope

Harold is the most infuriating Event boss within 6 months

That's the Degen boss btw

Design of Strife?

The stages looked like they needed the Buffs

It was basically a Roster Check

It was pain yep

All I did was go A2 and left

Since getting to A2 can get you Cardi Skin

The mini stages (Trauma Intervention) was pretty good tho tbh

Who knows what difficult Gamemode they will cook up again

Anyways go farm IS-10 for Alloy

T3 Material Incandescent Alloy

The new characters will use a hefty amount of it

If I'm not mistaken

I'll roll on the 3 Limited Banners

Shu, R6 Ela and Wis'adel

The off-rates for Shu is the other Sui Siblings

Banner is split into 2

The 1st part has Ela, Doc and Iana

The 2nd part is the rerun for Ash, Tachanka and Blitz

Im skipping Ash

I have Exusiai

Btw only the Ela Banner will get the 20 free pulls

Ash doesn't because she's a rerun

Yep

The others are 5 stars

You need 120 for a guarantee

[glass monolith]

120 TWICE

[next wigeon]

Correct

So pain

Yato is 120

Collabs have a limit at 120

For mercy reasons

[glass monolith]

If i get lucky to not waste too much pulls on Ela and Ash, i will have (200)300 ready for Walter. Issue is - IF i get Ela and Ash that early i would NEED to go 300 for Walter because my luck when at times is peak, on average is mid

[next wigeon]

Debut Standard Characters have a guarantee at 150

Ye

[turbid badge]

120

[glass monolith]

Isn't that apply to rerun of those debuts too?

[turbid badge]

the 5* are also limited

have fun

[next wigeon]

I think so

[turbid badge]

😹

fuze tachanka are free

[next wigeon]

Anything collab related is Limited

[glass monolith]

Just give me Vendela as offbanners and nobody gets hurt

[next wigeon]

So frost was the banner 5 star

[glass monolith]

Collab related is hyper limited because Ash was in jail for like 3 years?

[turbid badge]

her talent does confuse me

is it only in place when skill is active?

oh wwait

i misread

lmao

it says trait

[glass monolith]

[turbid badge]

instead of taslent

gosh yeah i need herr

[next wigeon]

If they feel like it

[crisp bolt]

I mean, there's a hololive AL collab in existence

[turbid badge]

theres also upcoming dungeon collab

teased in the trailer

[glass monolith]

Had to friend support her on H13-3

[next wigeon]

He looks so harmless

While the other 3 limited characters look battle hardened

We are also getting a Sanrio Collab

[turbid badge]

how much does nearl buff warf s1?

[next wigeon]

So maybe hello kitty

[turbid badge]

on qurtz

[glass monolith]

God knows. Also not mastery 3 etc

Nearl is +10% to green numbers, globally. Vendela +15% to green numbers on highest HP in range only

[next wigeon]

I think imma go for now cya

[turbid badge]

your quartz ate good

i keep getting bored of squads

[crisp bolt]

they don't stack right?

[turbid badge]

they should no

i coild try

my nearl only mod 2

tried investing into whisperain funny mod more regen to status res

[glass monolith]

Clip I made while trying to figure out why the fuck Quartz gets executed, you may try to look number

[turbid badge]

warf basic attack went from 543 to 718

mod 2 nearl

15% vendela

so yes it stacks

[glass monolith]

There is also FUCKING 5% ON NG MODULE 3

If you want to cope stacking it

Mudrock, Mushas, Reapers green number themselves so benefit from it

[turbid badge]

it works well with eyja talent & gavial

lingering healing

same with reed igf

but she alrd heals alott\

[glass monolith]

I don't think it apply to regens. Only to green number heals.

Coooould be wrong as i don't have any good way of checking

[turbid badge]

healing doesn't apply to regens yea

[tidal sedge]

Guys i Just finished chapter 7, any tips for chapter 8

[glass monolith]

Boss cancer, Drone cancer. Civilians must survive

Also there are secret lore stages and you need E2 Amiya to fight boss

By need i mean game literally turn you around with "Need to add E2 Amiya to squad" on JT8-2. Same will apply to alike stage in chapter 14 in half year

[tidal sedge]

Ah i see, thank you

[turbid badge]

amiyaya

[glass monolith]

Secret lore conditions: ||R8-8 and escort has more that 50% HP left (enters enrage when below it), M8-6 and All Shieldguards/Rosmontis survived, M8-8 and leak boss (only time you need to do 2 star clear for (in lore stages)), JT8-3 and bring Amiya-guard. + extra lore stage for doing all above||

[verbal canopy]

Opinions on replacing pot6 Kroos w/ pot1 Archetto?

[surreal star]

go for it

[viscid raft]

Does she bring any value

[foggy grove]

she gives you gold cert

other than that she sucks

[viscid raft]

That's great

[viscid raft]

Monst3r is effective against the buffed up ranged unit in this rerun

I was having trouble for the longest time before I realized

[ocean ether]

monstr is effective against any event mechanics that dosen't give ridiculous HP bloat

True damage ignores def, res, phy dodge, res dodge. Any event mechanic that increases these tends to be bypassed by monstr

which is bascially every single event LOL

[latent monolith]

ST damage tho

[foggy grove]

on this case it's more like s3 gives def buff

so it survives cleaner

[ocean ether]

that too

I havent encountered an event where kal is not useful tbh

[viscid raft]

I still have s3 m1 so I should upgrade her skill

For the module I should go second one for survivability right

[ocean ether]

second? Take panacea

[viscid raft]

The one with aspd and Def for monst3r

Yeah that one

[hollow epoch]

Honestly i always find kaltsit super effective against any bullshit bosses but always meh as a laneholder otherwise

[last stream]

greythroat or kroos alter?

[modern plover]

Definitely kroos alter

Meta-wise

[last stream]

aight thank you

[crisp bolt]

greythroat

[vernal lion]

greygoat

[summer copper]

s2 for laneholder

u prob used s3

[hollow epoch]

Yup

I didnt think s2 was that great given how big the numbers on s3 was but i suppose the aoe is really good

[summer copper]

ye the aoe is very good

usually s3 is not for laneholder unless only a small amount of enemies

[dapper hedge]

As long as the mobs are not the big dudes with high def s2 is good for lane hold

[civic bear]

Even if it's high def, s2 increase kalt aspd making her sustain m3 real good. It's a good staller

[steep kayak]

Would anyone like to help me make a team ? (It rlly need work )

[ocean ether]

?

wdym make a team

[steep kayak]

Erm put operators into a squad

And have it be good yes

[ocean ether]

squads are very situational things unless you mean core squad

but sure, show your ops

[steep kayak]

Well just a generally good one

Heres my current squad

And all the operators that i have

Ig just something thats good for everything is what im looking for ? Like yknow just a good squad

[vernal lion]

your roster is just new, just use what op you currently level up them

[ocean ether]

did you use an E2 skip + level max on paraminx?

[steep kayak]

No… i levelled her up painstakingly…. It took very long :,(

Probably wasnt worth it but…. But….

[vernal lion]

well yes, you can't level all of them fully now

[ocean ether]

alright so first of all... you do NOT ever level anyone to max unless you are late / end game and have no one to raise

[steep kayak]

Welp

[ocean ether]

no one is ever worth the resources to get that last 30 levels when you can get a new E2 with same amount

[steep kayak]

(Ill be honest i dont rlly even know what she does)

I just know that shes pretty

[vernal lion]

bruh

[ocean ether]

next, paramanix being first E2 was a terrible decision lol

[worldly stirrup]

And why your first e2 is a support and not dps

[steep kayak]

Okok mistakes MAY have been made but lets look on the brightside

[ocean ether]

and manually max level as well 🤦‍♂️

[vernal lion]

your prio now is just use what you have, then save resource for a carry op

[steep kayak]

Yea how do i get that instant max level thing you mentioned

[vernal lion]

buy from shop

with money iirc

[steep kayak]

Oh poop

[ocean ether]

anyways your current squad is alright, maybe sub amiya for steward, but not much point at this juncture

[steep kayak]

Whats prio

[vernal lion]

as I said lol

[ocean ether]

lappland needs to be e1 thats for sure

[steep kayak]

Am i cooked or something did that actually screw me over

[vernal lion]

just use the current squad

[steep kayak]

Yea i heard lappland was good !

[vernal lion]

what stage are you at now

[ocean ether]

also... unraised gavialter?

[steep kayak]

Chaoter 9 i think 2

In my defense if they dont look cool i just assume they arent good

[vernal lion]

from chap 0 to 8, which chapter are you at

[ocean ether]

I would say, raise gavialter and dump vigna

elysium is enough for DP needs

[steep kayak]

9-2 or 4-1 idk

[steep kayak]

Ooo so swap vigna for that one

[vernal lion]

have you been doing event?

you get event point and exchange it in event shop

[ocean ether]

you also have shining, so you should replace one of your medics with her

[steep kayak]

Yea i try events but im never able to fully finish them (for whatever reason i wonder)

[ocean ether]

Perfumer has a nice enough niche you MIGHT still use her at mid - end game

sussuro ishould be replaced with shining

[vernal lion]

still you should keep doing it tho, the resource in shop is needed

[steep kayak]

Isnt that alot 6 stars tho?

[ocean ether]

maybe its because you raised a support (that you dont know what she does) instead of DPS?

[steep kayak]

Mmm no couldnt be it

[ocean ether]

you are supposed to be using 6 stars as much as possible In general, they will be better than their 4 or 5 star counterparts for obvious reasons

[steep kayak]

Oh but theyre so expensive tho😮 i remember ppl telling me like 2 at most

[vernal lion]

that's why they have low rarity clear with some 6 star op

[ocean ether]

and yet you wasted all your resources on pra?

[steep kayak]

Hey she has cool bells thats far from what id call a waste of resources

So for future reference

[vernal lion]

that's not what a tower-defense game look like bruh

[ocean ether]

like the amount of resources you invested in her could have gotten you almost 2 E2 6 stars, and that isnt even an exaggeration

[vernal lion]

[steep kayak]

I should NOT raise a person that high

[ocean ether]

in the first place, you should NOT raise someone you dont even know what they do

[vernal lion]

yes

[steep kayak]

Ik she like reduces defense i think

[ocean ether]

pra isnt even a good debuffer

[weak gazelle]

dont worry, mistake is a normal thing
the important part is to not repeat the same mistake again

[ocean ether]

she is like... the worst of the 3 debuffers

[steep kayak]

I will never take her off my team

[ocean ether]

time to play niche knights and just raise everyone who is cute then

[worldly stirrup]

[weak gazelle]

huh?
pram is good debuffer wdym? as far as 5* go

[steep kayak]

Literally the game ive been playing idk abt you all

[ocean ether]

shamare

and he has gnosis

[weak gazelle]

so? you assume every player have shamare from the get go?

[ocean ether]

he has gnosis btw

[steep kayak]

Oh yea i like gnosis too hes cool

[vernal lion]

there's important fact that you need to know, once you have leveled max your op, they will be always max and you can't get back the resource, it's called full investment and it's only when you know that op can carry you the whole run
if you can't make a decision on which op you need to play, just ask in here 'cause the meta is always changed

[steep kayak]

Oh so my problem is i maxed a suport character so they cant carry

[ocean ether]

btw

you have cantabile... unraised?

[worldly stirrup]

And debuffer dont need max lvl lol.

[steep kayak]

Who

[ocean ether]

https://gamepress.gg/arknights/operator/cantabile

[steep kayak]

Idk arknights meta or anything like that

[steep kayak]

Ive literally never seen this woman in my life

[weak gazelle]

gnosis?
as long as enemey doesnt have freeze immune he is acceptable as 6* support
sadly the highest threat usually freeze immune

[worldly stirrup]

She good 👍

[steep kayak]

Should i level her up 😮

[ocean ether]

she is on your ops...

[ocean ether]

[steep kayak]

Oh dang

[worldly stirrup]

Yeah raise her. If you dont have ines

[steep kayak]

Literally didnt even know i had her what does she do

[worldly stirrup]

Best vanguard class

[steep kayak]

Oooh rlly

[weak gazelle]

she does what vg should do
which is generate dp but with more effective way

[ocean ether]

Her class generates DP on HIT

[worldly stirrup]

And fast redeploy

[steep kayak]

Oh so should i replace elysium w her then 😮 or uhh

Vigna

[weak gazelle]

you can borrow my canta if curious how she work
add arkhy#4845

[ocean ether]

vigna is uselss, and honestly pra is useless for your team as well

[worldly stirrup]

Elysium still good.
But he work best with sniper ops

[steep kayak]

Im in too deep with pram now she will never leave it will be a reminder

[worldly stirrup]

I still choose canta tho

[ocean ether]

anyways, I would suggest
Raise gavilater > replace matterhorn (she should be able to do lanehold job at E2)
replace vigna with cantabile
replace susu with shining
pra dosen't actually provide any utillity to your squad atm because you dont have DPS

[steep kayak]

Are vanguards not dps?

[civic bear]

Damage per second not dp per second

[worldly stirrup]

They r more like utility than dps

[ocean ether]

E2 piro will be
gavialter > archetto / gnosis and hope you get more ops soon

focus all your effort on gavialter

[steep kayak]

Ok is this right then?

[steep kayak]

Oh oki doki

[ocean ether]

get cantabile and lappland to E1 lvl 30 first, then focus everything on gavialter

swap shining for susu since you already have susu raised, but know that you will be throwing susu soon

[steep kayak]

And no more maxing out character (for now)

[weak gazelle]

ahh that roster huh
good enough
my next advice is aim degen in the future

and raise them evenly

[worldly stirrup]

Also e2 lvl 60 is good stopping point.
You can use your resource for other ops

[ocean ether]

yea, get degen and raise her

[worldly stirrup]

Dont need to raise to max

[steep kayak]

Is it just that the 30 levels dont have high enough stats to matter ? Or what
Why would they do that 😔

[weak gazelle]

no need lappy
left that 1 slot empty for flexibility

[ocean ether]

if you swapping shining for susu, dont raise susu anymore than what you already did, once you have more leeway you can work on shining but thats probably a few weeks / months later

[flat sapphire]

too expensive for minimal gains

[steep kayak]

Ok cantabile and lappland
Then gav

Dont raise past e2 60

[ocean ether]

the amount of resources to get that last 30 levels is enough to get you an E0 to E2, or almost enough.
The amount of stats you get is minimal and most of the time, you wont even notice it

[steep kayak]

That seems wrong

Like yknow

Like why though

[flat sapphire]

it's more for min/maxing rly, u get stats that hardly even matter past e2lv60 for a crapton of resources

so it's not worth it

even e2lv50 is good enough unless u want to get mods

[steep kayak]

Also whats this thing and can i do it or is it a terrible idea or does it not matter

[weak gazelle]

E2 lvl 30 is okay too
main reason 6* for E2 is unlock their 3rd skill, second talent, and mastery skill
as for ops level you eventually will adjust it

no need to think about module yet

[steep kayak]

Oh i see
So nicheknights really was the perfect description of my situation

The reality of what i have done is beginning to sink in

[ocean ether]

for reference