strategy

[ocean ether]

its fine, theres going to be like... a dead 2 - 3 weeks before degen because CC You can grab rocks in 1-7

[sly drift]

For real there's no much I can think by using ur squad
This stage isn't like puzzle or something but dps check.
Dunno how youtuber pulled it by using their big brain though

[glass monolith]

2 dead weeks during which i need to build Virtuosa, Aak, Schwarz

[sly drift]

Even stalling with ethan is risky cos damn hitman

[long lotus]

Alr but if I borrow an op how would i clear it?

[sly drift]

Literally just put ifrit on middle facing down

Then sleep

[ocean ether]

ifrit pointing middle lane or typhon, but ifrit is better choice here because way too many for typhon to handle alone

[sly drift]

Well.. you still have to block some*

Can be mlynar or chen alter too

[ocean ether]

mlynar dies to the invis hitman, believe me I tried LOL

[sly drift]

Or sweep with kirin

Yea I can see it

[long lotus]

Do you have an ifrit I can borrow then?

[ocean ether]

the invis hitman are the fking problem here

[ocean ether]

sadly mine isnt built well

only m1

better off looking in friend-id

[sly drift]

Both works

You can also use surtr harem heal for fun

[ocean ether]

I dont think he has enough medics for that LOL

but yes surtr hospital will work

the usual "everyone is coming down this one lane? KEK"

[sly drift]

Mention me when you need friend confirmation . Htg

[long lotus]

Bruh why is IS-9 so much easier than IS-8?? I literally had to borrow ifrit for is8 but first tried is9 without any trouble at all

This game is truly so balanced

[worldly stirrup]

Now fight zaaro

[long lotus]

Sure. Not enough sanity atm though. (Both irl and in-game)

[sly drift]

Enjoy ex stages tomorrow

[ocean ether]

but zaaro is a joke with typhon too bad he dosent have typhon

[worldly stirrup]

I also dont have typhoon
I use schwarz to kill the boss

[long lotus]

I don't have schwarz either unfortunately.

[ocean ether]

but schwarz cant AFK

[worldly stirrup]

Honestly. The boss is kinda easy tho.

[long lotus]

If IS-9 says anything abt IS-10 then prob.

[worldly stirrup]

Those hitman is much scarier kek

[ocean ether]

dont worry too much about it, 8 was the hardest stage because they all rush you at once

like the rush is fked up enough to kill mlynar lol

[worldly stirrup]

Even cuora can tank the boss

[long lotus]

Alr just tried IS-10.

Seems pretty easy, the bosses AoE is kinda crazy though.

Literally just sentences 3 ops to death

Can't even undeploy

Does anyone have any tips for this stage?

[foggy grove]

but you said seems pretty easy

[long lotus]

Yeah but idk how to deal with this

All I can think of off the top of my head is deploy gravel/jaye and tank the death sentence ig

[foggy grove]

kill his phase 1

[worldly stirrup]

Careful with deployment order.
Boss target last op deployed

[long lotus]

Yeah I realised

[foggy grove]

he should prio the civi first before your ops

phase 2 doesn't have that ability

you can kinda cheese it with beanstalk if you are stalling too long

[worldly stirrup]

Nanocrab

[sly drift]

Mumu

[long lotus]

I run out of ops before the boss dies is the main problem. The cleaner also spawns and destroys the perma stall

[sly drift]

Zaaro sentence mumu clone to death

[long lotus]

I don't have mumu tho

[foggy grove]

what are you using even

[worldly stirrup]

Try borrow typhoon.

[long lotus]

This

[long lotus]

What's the point though? I won't be able to auto the stage if I do that

[long lotus]

Here's my rooster if it helps ig

[foggy grove]

oh you have teq why not use him

he is your best dps option for the boss

[sharp pumice]

The event boss?

[long lotus]

Oh true

Will try thanks

[long lotus]

this probably works but it's kinda hard to keep tequila alive

they only deal ~50% of the bosses hp which is good ig but they die before their next skill comes up

[foggy grove]

why
just don't let him eat debuff

also did you wait for his full stack?

liberator need 40s for their trait stack

[long lotus]

yeah

ik

@foggy grove so how do I deal with the 2nd phase lmao?

[foggy grove]

wait for cuora cd and pray

[soft crystal]

Use mountain s3

unironically that seems like a good play tbh

[worldly stirrup]

Im not sure if e1 60 cuora can tank him

[long lotus]

s3? isn't s2 just better?

[soft crystal]

S3 is better burst skill of mountain

You really dont have problems lane holding in there with anything else, might as well use his s3 to boss kill

[long lotus]

mountain insta-dies to the boss though (same with literally every op lmao)

cleaners don't really help either

[soft crystal]

Yeah gotta use cuora to soak and dps as fast as you can

[long lotus]

how though lmao

like i get the idea but how would i even do that

[worldly stirrup]

Phase 2 boss atk+50% and hit twice if i remember

According to gamepress
His atk stat is 800 atk

[long lotus]

lmao

[worldly stirrup]

So +50%
It become 1200

[long lotus]

my cuora has 2173 hp, 578 def atm so idk if they can even survive that

basically a two shot

[somber stone]

1200-578 twice

[long lotus]

my medics (silence, ansel) have ~900 atk total too so i can't even out-heal the dps to perma stall smh

do i just slap on another medic or smth?

[soft crystal]

3 medics if you have to

[worldly stirrup]

Yeah. Maybe you need another medic

[foggy grove]

you can do it,just rotate cuora skill with medic

mountain s3 dps is also pretty good

[long lotus]

yeah but it knocks enemies into the blue box lmao

[foggy grove]

lol

don't aim t blue box smh

[long lotus]

i actually just dont have the dps for this somehow

even with tequila + mountain s3 my ops die before we can burst it down

i messed around with the deployment order but it doesn't seem to make a difference

idk what to do honestly

[foggy grove]

i spawnkllled him with teq and mountain

[long lotus]

how

[foggy grove]

i just let them spawn camp the red box where he comes from

tho my teq is e2 so idk how big is the difference

[long lotus]

well i mean my mountain and tequila combo only does slightly less than half of it's health in one burst so 🤷

my mountain is e2lv30 and tequila is e1lv65 if that helps somehow

[foggy grove]

you are using teq s2?

[long lotus]

yeah

@ocean ether @worldly stirrup help please lmao im rapidly losing sanity irl

is this just not doable or smth?

[long lotus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1059536884440780932/4x-2.gif

[ocean ether]

whatever strat i can come up for you isnt going to be accurate because my units are vastly more built

[ocean ether]

this is the best strat I can come up with for you but its unlikely you can get the clear because as I said, my units are vastly more built

replace steward with click

@long lotus

[long lotus]

i will give it a shot ig.

[ocean ether]

deploy order goes myrtle on top of mountain to charge dp > lappland > click > silence > caper > perfumer > tequilla > mountain

hold after that do NOT deploy cuora first

remove myrtle, place popkuar on top when boss passes and kill exactly 4 snipers then remove popkuar, this step to prevent snipers killing civis

then wait for boss to go on the tile cuora is, where mountain can hit him but before boss gets blocked by mountain

then deploy cuora

so boss is blocked by cuora and not mountain, this is very impt because mountain will get nuked if he is blocking boss

then just kill first phase, save caper and mountain skill for 2nd

when 2nd starts, wait for the boss to smack cuora with claws TWICE and howl before activating cuora skill

once boss targetable, activate all DPS and healing skills, then try to do as much damage as you can before boss nukes cuora + mountain

if need be, deploy myrtle, popkuar and spot to slow the boss from reaching mountain, because its unlikely you will have enough DPS to kill the boss

anyways if you manage to kill the boss, gratz. If not, mountain will die and boss will make a loop, you have one more chance to cuora + DPSes

if you fail at that point, then its pretty much operators too weak and your only option is borrow LOL

btw, mountain is on S3

[ocean ether]

^

[long lotus]

will try 🫡

[ocean ether]

I would suggest beagle instead of spot since the only reason you using spot is to stall boss

[long lotus]

do i use tequilas skill to dps the first phase?

[ocean ether]

you probably need to

just start his skill as the mobs are approaching since you might struggle with that part

[ocean ether]

anyways, I videoed, now uploading

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ArMdbLjbxQ @long lotus

[long lotus]

will take a look thanks

[ocean ether]

even if you clear... 4 mins per run to farm a mat
That sounds like a RL sanity drain moment

[long lotus]

what do i do if the boss doesn't die when the cleaner spawns? (see: 2:12)

do i just cope the heal preassure?

[ocean ether]

cuora should be able to tank p1 even with cleaner

worst case slap a few drones from silence

[long lotus]

alr

[ocean ether]

just remember you need to save all your burst for phase 2, so try not to use your burst

anyways, in general, use cuora skill and she should be able to withstand the boss without healing skills, once she is out, you will need to use healing skills

if you cant kill by the time healing skills run out, chances are cuora is going to die

you can then attempt to stall with all the available ops you have before the boss reaches mountain and pray you get skill up
If you fail at this part, boss will still make 1 lap around giving you some time to re-deploy and do one last effort

I am not sure if you need to use both silence and perfumers skill together, so just check how much damage cuora is taking and healing from, if you can, try to stagger if she can survive with only 1 so you can prolong your agony skill recharge time

[celest bluff]

I feel like the last time I farm alloy is last year....

IS-10...

[ocean ether]

there was alloy on dorothy rerun I think

[celest bluff]

I slept through that

Unfortunately

[ocean ether]

well, this event isnt good for newbies with all the DPS / healing / defense checks

[celest bluff]

But yeah right now I still have 50 alloy

Possibly from IS-10 last year

[ocean ether]

@long lotus anything else? I am off to bed in 3 mins when my mud is done with her M1

[long lotus]

not really, thanks for all the help!

[ocean ether]

all the best, ping me if you done so I can take down the video

[hearty sphinx]

can you solo JT8-3 with ling

or is it not possible to solo the map

[cosmic thicket]

idt u can

[heady sphinx]

no, its not possible to solo with ling

[glass monolith]

Low op record is 2, Ling paired with someone else

Ling Kal (Texas for DP)

Difficulty rating of stage: Ling doesn't solo

[wintry hinge]

Some tip to this?

[glass monolith]

Spawn top most car to taunt boss 3x3 skill and kill rest of stage, then break throne and beat shit out of phase 2 boss. By having nuke and doing damage after bomb remove damage reduction (Also if you delay bomb for 40 seconds then you can spawn new one before boss destroy spawner making you have 8 instead 4).
Or something tanky and enough AoE to stop boss phase 2 spawns

Or true damage goes brrrrrrrr

Always forget it is an option

[wintry hinge]

I have Kaltsit and Nearlter

[wintry hinge]

can u teach me about the 40 sec delay?

[glass monolith]

Bomb spawn is 40 SP cost thing

Phase 2 boss has 90% damage reduction unless you slam bomb into him

After it boss kill bomb spawn which spawned that bomb

If you delay hitting boss with bomb you can spawn another bomb before he does that

[wintry hinge]

why cant I True dmg nuke him?

[glass monolith]

100000 hp or something, also attack speed down aura or something (From 3x3 skill which he cast on himself in phase 2), also 4 fucking slimes he fart out every 20-30 or so seconds

[wintry hinge]

will mudrock die easily by 3x3 skill?

[glass monolith]

Boss hits for like 2000 arts or something in phase 2

[wintry hinge]

so shes dead in 2 hits

[glass monolith]

Phase 1 - normal speed weak ranged attack
Phase 2 - slow powerful melee slap

[wintry hinge]

how slow?

[glass monolith]

1 per 6 seconds. ranged 1 per 4 seconds

Basically prts exists, i gave my opinion on stage and boss and told phase 2 hit hard. I need to IRL a little

[long lotus]

I managed to beat the stage

[celest bluff]

Loading screen tip still have the LMD recruitment

[glass monolith]

How bored you are to reed screen tips

[worldly stirrup]

[long lotus]

Well I mean during load times you don't rlly have anything else to do

Might aswell.

[fading hill]

200IQ question

[surreal raven]

on 7-18, it says the rest of the enemies spawn after you kill the 18th enemy in the 1st wave

but whenever i take patriot to 2nd stage and keep the 17th enemy alive, it still spawns in the 2nd wave

the jetpack dudes

is that not true anymore?

[glass monolith]

You need to kill phase 1 before last enemy of first wave spawns and keep it alive till boss phase 2 die

That stuff true for many stages where more enemies spawn in boss phase 2. As long as you can kill phase 1 before all wave 1 enemies appear

[surreal raven]

ohh okay

alright thanks

so kill patratio's 1st stage before the 17th enemy spawns

[glass monolith]

And keep that enemy alive, yes

I don't know game code but i assume it mess up kill gate

[surreal raven]

fianlly

i beat it

[cyan gorge]

Had to redo S-5, Typhon + Ines is brain dead mode

[worldly stirrup]

Penance can solo left lane?

[cyan gorge]

As long as you kill boss while he’s on right, yeah

Typhon + Warf deletes him

[worldly stirrup]

Hmm. I dont have typhoon.
Im just gonna use my schwarz to kill the boss

[cyan gorge]

Any burst dps with buffs kills him

[worldly stirrup]

And kal to kill hitman from midlane right?

[cyan gorge]

I used Pozy and Shamare on original run

[cyan gorge]

Yes

[worldly stirrup]

Noted 👍

[worldly stirrup]

I did it.
I always forgot to activate penance skill lmao.
So i use blaze for left lane

[marsh sapphire]

What used to be Texalter stall stage becomes Virtuosa stall stage

(IS-10)

[scarlet mortar]

vivi kinda ate zaaro in IS-10 surprisingly

there's zaaro and cleaners coming in off-waves and she just has enough damage to mob them

mud vivi duos

[marsh sapphire]

Ah yes, mud
She or penance quite suitable for these stages

[scarlet mortar]

penance solos

i'm pretty sure she does postmod

mfw i have to bring two ops to do the job of one bc that one op has 3.7k atk onskill, arts reflect and way too much barrier

[west path]

Sadly Ling can’t do this anymore in future event 😦

[ocean ether]

what did it cost you? Did you get the boss in one go without mountain dying?

[long lotus]

That'd be nice but in reality, the average run:

Somehow barely able to burst the boss on the 2nd loop

[ocean ether]

is this even farmable LOL

well... look on the bright side, at least you cleared it, though not even sure if this is farmable

[ocean ether]

borrow typhon and manual farm every run

[west path]

Who even farm in rerun event

The drop rate is just simply bad

[ocean ether]

keep your trolling out of #strategy

[west path]

It’s bad lol

Everything that below 1 are not worth farming

[ocean ether]

EN cant read eh? Anyways this is not the place to talk about drop rates, keep your trolling out of #strategy and do try to read the big giant 1 next time

[long lotus]

A lappdumb reaction is not enough for you. Here, have the entire image.

[cosmic thicket]

🔥✍️

[turbid badge]

umm

[peak cloak]

sus video

[ocean ether]

meanwhile typhon

[long lotus]

Yeah ik typhoon easily solos

[ocean ether]

the amount of typhon tiles in this event is too damn high

[long lotus]

Yeah it's basically tailor made for them tbh.

[foggy grove]

you know what easily solo

penance

[ocean ether]

just realize there was a record bluestacks so kinda trying that out

now I dont need to record using nvidia anymore with the massive file sizes

[void terrace]

How bad is the rate for blocks in the rerun?

[void terrace]

Is this rerun rates or the original event rates?

[ocean ether]

rerun and original same until it enters SS / inter

[void terrace]

Really? I always thought rerun was gimped

Oh well I guess blocks are still worth farming then

[ocean ether]

no thats when it enters SS and inter

[ocean ether]

I still wouldn't farm blocks because 1-7

[void terrace]

Alloy bloc

I have 900 rock T-T

[ocean ether]

nvm I am

[void terrace]

Well nvm not 900 yet

Must have used some for something

Idk when I piled up this much rock

I don't even farm 1-7

Rock used to be the most abused resource

Idk why I haven't used it in so long

[long lotus]

Farmed so much that you ran out of things to use it on

[void terrace]

I don't even farm itttttt

I haven't touched 1-7 in months

I only farm blue rock

I'm down on RMA and alloy block though

[hasty heron]

question

how well does penance s3m3 at lv90 does against zaaro's phase 2 in this spot?

on cm

[void terrace]

Uhh wouldn't recommend pennace

Use a healable tank

Zarro does about 1500 X2 per swing on CM

And that further increases in blood debt

Pennace only has around 800 defence so her shield will take a beating

[hasty heron]

hnnng

[void terrace]

Who do you have?

Nian is a good brick

[hasty heron]

i have a krooster but i think its not up to date

[void terrace]

Joshi or at worst cuora

[hasty heron]

let me do that rq

[void terrace]

Vivi can just duel zaaro with healing

[hasty heron]

...if i got her.

[void terrace]

Rip

Whos your tankiest healable defender

Just use cuora if your desperate

[hasty heron]

looking at it in a vacuum

cement

but i know she wont cut it

[void terrace]

Huh

Well thats

An interesting choice

With enough medics she probably can

[hasty heron]

https://krooster.com/u/Echoidium

[void terrace]

A few practise plans wouldn't hurt

Cement would be a fun pick

Wait you have hoshi

Just use her and mylnar

That's more than enough

[hasty heron]

you sure she's gonna tank it?

module-less?

[void terrace]

It's a matter of medics

[hasty heron]

hmmm

what if i stick reedter s2 and ptilopsis on her

[void terrace]

The issue is more of her level than her mod

[hasty heron]

or reedter s3

[void terrace]

Reed 2 lmao

That will destroy zaaro with mylnar infront

Reedsnadwhich is great

[hasty heron]

hmmm

alright, i will give it a shot

[void terrace]

Save it for phase 2 it's more than enough

Do you have texalter?

[hasty heron]

yes, i got her back when i was lvl 7

[void terrace]

Her s2 can shred zaaros res

Just mylnar Infront of hoshi

[hasty heron]

do you think penance can solo lanehold the right lane?

[void terrace]

Then texalter

Probably

May need some help from texas

Just have someone to deal with the liquidators on the bottom lane and deploy them last so your healers dont get screwed

[hasty heron]

if i remember, mudrock hasnt died to the liquidators whenever i tried that

though she didnt have the dps to handle one before another came in....

[void terrace]

Try and point mylnar towards her then

I don't remember the map layout but he may be able to cover the red box if mudrock walls it off

[hasty heron]

now that you mention it

[void terrace]

Or just use rexas

Texas

Texas solves all problems

[hasty heron]

ok i think i got it

brb

so my hoshiguma with s3 active at lvl40 gets 1076 defense, meanwhile... my jessicat at lvl90 with s1m3 gets 1319 defense

so should i just use jessicat then?

[void terrace]

Wait

[turbid badge]

factor in hoshiguma talent lel

[void terrace]

Lmao didn't see jessicat

[hasty heron]

yeah i was going to say

[void terrace]

Just use her

[hasty heron]

hoshiguma has her rng talent

[void terrace]

If she's level 90

Just use her

[hasty heron]

but given im gonna stick reedter and penance to her... i dont see a point

[turbid badge]

is that witrh shield buff

[worldly stirrup]

Just use Hoshiguma lol

[turbid badge]

reedter has attackj debuff btw

really useful

[hasty heron]

ah

[turbid badge]

just pick whatever

both should work

[hasty heron]

my hoshi's second talent adds +6%

[turbid badge]

i used nian in my old run

[hasty heron]

ill just go with the cat

[turbid badge]

cat shield adds defense too

no ?

[worldly stirrup]

Even cuora with mod can tank the boss

[foggy grove]

modless hoshi ew
just use jess

[void terrace]

90 Vs 40

[hasty heron]

yes but i cant deploy her shield where im placing her

[void terrace]

Use jess

[void terrace]

Doesn't matter much haha

[hasty heron]

gonna put my plan in practice now

[hasty heron]

mmmm

nop

mudrock died

maybe if i S3 instead...

[hasty heron]

[gray stone]

Weirdge sfx thing with the balls

VFX*

Degen S3 effects is this on the balls

[undone sundial]

any tips for the event world 8

walking on eggshells

[peak cloak]

auto correct?

[undone sundial]

?

[peak cloak]

what is event world 8 u are talking about?

[remote perch]

is-8 ig

[undone sundial]

yes

[peak cloak]

okay so there is no name like that, becareful.
124 sanity cap, hmm.
can you show your operators?

[remote perch]

just dump everything in middle

[undone sundial]

oh i see

[remote perch]

ye
almost all enemies will just walk to the middle line, just dump every you have there

in the end part of the map, there will be enemies who will walk directly to the left box, so just prepare some units for it

[peak cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

are you looking for auto farm?

if for walking through, borrow reed alter, she wiped the stage.

[undone sundial]

no auto farm

where would i get a reed alter

[remote perch]

borrow

[peak cloak]

borrow xD

[remote perch]

find someone to leech to

[peak cloak]

NikoRU#5710 , i will add u soon.

[peak cloak]

so u dont need auto farm, correct? cuz your message has 2 means and i'm not sure which one will be right for your case.

[undone sundial]

not really

unless theres something goof there

but i doubt ill be auto farming it

[peak cloak]

rocks ofc

[undone sundial]

oh yea orirock cluster guaranteed

hmm

not for now

i just wanna do the character missions

[peak cloak]

i will give u a auto farm strat if u wanted

[undone sundial]

if its possible i wouldnt mind

but i dont think i can do it currently

[peak cloak]

your ops can xd

[peak cloak]

make sure u add me for that purpose

i'm going to log in now so wait

[undone sundial]

oh alright

i also have some others leveled

[peak cloak]

i get you man. your ops can but you cant

that's why i said that i can give u a auto farm strat

[undone sundial]

sure :)

[peak cloak]

@undone sundial reed alter is ready

[undone sundial]

ty

[peak cloak]

wait a bit for my reed timing

i already record a video foe youtube so lets me check it again

okay, so deploy your vg first, get enough dp, deploy reed in this tile (wait)

active her skill when it's fully charged

[undone sundial]

alright

[peak cloak]

around 26th kills (2 guys with black hat comes) active her skill

41 or 42th, active her skill again

it almost over

now your last mob is a guy walk straight to your top left box, maybe a tank is enough

[undone sundial]

wow she's strong

that worked

[peak cloak]

gg

@undone sundial

notes:

deploy those ops on high tiles first

then thorns

then both your tankers

they will eat shots from crossbow guys and casters

warfarin s1

exu s3 (u need to find a perfect timing here otherwise wait for me)

thorns s3

eyja s2

s2

saria s1

[undone sundial]

will try that

wait s2 eyja?

[peak cloak]

ofc, are u sure u have a well built s3 eyja? cuz burst dmg to wipe mobs in the last waves is needed within one skill activation.

eyja s3 offskill is basically useless

[ocean ether]

why not just borrow ifrit and then AFK He has mudrock to tank mid anyways

[peak cloak]

auto farm

he does not have ifrit too D:

okay so in short, i gave him a walk through strat and he finished it

now it's about auto farm

[ocean ether]

just do something like this

@undone sundial

eyja s2 will do

ethan S1 will be better honestly

point is, you want to stall the invis hitman inside eyja's attack zone with a beefy defender, they are bascially sacrifices

ethan dosent really help much so you can just drop him

since you have kal, thats good, you have a fast redeploy sacrifice LOL

for first invis hitman, stall until the timer runs out and he looses his buff, then let him in to get smacked by your mid lane

[peak cloak]

dalao

[ocean ether]

point is, you want to stall the invis hitman until the buff runs out or is about to run out before letting them in to your frontline

[peak cloak]

btw his Kaltsit is e1

so no extra range like e2

[ocean ether]

yea which is why I didnt use her skill

[peak cloak]

ah sure thing

[ocean ether]

its just using monstr as FRD

[peak cloak]

get ya man

[ocean ether]

would be easier if he has shirayuki or other AoE ops though

[void terrace]

How does totter fair against the invis snipers

[worldly stirrup]

invis sniper?

[void terrace]

The cleaner

From event

[worldly stirrup]

ah, the hitman

[void terrace]

I mean that should be totters niche

But how does he do

[worldly stirrup]

idk, i never used totter before

[cyan gorge]

Not too bad

[worldly stirrup]

prob he can deal with them since he specialize in killing invis enemies

for me, its just much more easier to tank them with defender tho

[ocean ether]

I highly doubt totter will kill them fast enough

[void terrace]

Yeah

Been using ines

[ocean ether]

and most of all... totter attacks heaviest enemy first, the invisible enemies have a high chance of spawning together with the heavies so totter wouldn't even target them

[void terrace]

Ri

Rip

[ocean ether]

the cars and these guys are higher weight than the invis hitman (3) so yep

totter is a giant cope

[void terrace]

Lmao

Just thinking for the 4 star clears

[ocean ether]

challenge?

[worldly stirrup]

ex or s stages?

[ocean ether]

either ways its mainly just borrow typhon if you dont have

[vocal leaf]

no one ever doubts about bassline tanking abilities

[ocean ether]

what level is that totter?

[vocal leaf]

40

[ocean ether]

e1?

[worldly stirrup]

what about hoederer?
his lvl?

[vocal leaf]

no, that e2 s2m3

[tidal sedge]

That's obviously not E1

Do you have mod

I didn't realize the thing was invis so I didn't use Totter

I just dumped Cuora on it killed with click xd

[vocal leaf]

yes lvl3

[ocean ether]

does totter work outside of S5 though, since they spawn with other heavies

[tidal sedge]

Nice

[ocean ether]

thats a very expensive totter

[cyan gorge]

Totter s2 is multi target so as long as there aren't 2 heavies in range, he'll work

[vocal leaf]

he does work well in ex8 too

[cyan gorge]

he just doesn't do as much damage with 2 targets vs only 1

[ocean ether]

sadly E2 m3 mod 3 totter is out of reach for low rarity stuff most ppl here are asking about

[vocal leaf]

lvl90 m9

if im not mistaken bass was getting his sanctuary buff too

[worldly stirrup]

oh, i forgot hoe also give sanctuary to unit behind him

[vocal leaf]

coping with ansel is hard, i can’t wait for degen event, to skip her and build harold instead

[worldly stirrup]

i also have hoe at e2 60 s3m3, but still dont know how to use him correctly.
he work like dreadnought guard right?

to kill elite and boss

[vocal leaf]

yes, dont force him to be a mountain, he’s meant for harder enemies

[worldly stirrup]

i just hope HG will give hoe good module, like add dmg reduc, more atk speed, or maybe amplify healing recieve

[ocean ether]

would hoe getting %HP regen fix him?

hoe with mountain levels of HP regen

[worldly stirrup]

hoe already has high hp, like 6k or smth
imagine if he heals 7% hp per sec like mountain
that would be 400-500 hps

with s3 activated, it become 700 hps

[cosmic thicket]

he's already strong people just don't like using crushers

[ocean ether]

A "who can kill me" moment

[peak cloak]

mudrock's colossus

🧐

[neat skiff]

Hoed has 6488 health when maxed out.

[merry narwhal]

if Höderer could handle normal AoE guard tasks, he'd be just straight-up better than them because of his higher ATK and HP -> HG tried to balance a new archetype for once

use him vs elites and bosses

[latent monolith]

Could they? Isn't the main danger them just one shotting

[neat skiff]

Healing recieved is about the only thing I could see them doing tbh. The archetype already has bonkers damage.

[ocean ether]

% self heal!!

[neat skiff]

He already has that.

[ocean ether]

no as in, mountain level of passive % self heal

okay, maybe thats too much... just 3% will do!

[neat skiff]

195 hps.

[ocean ether]

I wouldnt call that unkillable, but lol

[neat skiff]

3 more than Mountain.

Mountain 192 per second.
SilverAsh 153 per second.
Specter 74 per second.
Specter is 177 per second (With Gladiia 3.5%).

[ocean ether]

but without the extra % dmg taken and with a buttload more HP

[neat skiff]

Extra damage taken is Quartz...

[ocean ether]

I consider -def as extra damage taken LOL

[neat skiff]

Brawlers have low def to start with, so a 10% reduction really isn't much.

[ocean ether]

its 20 btw

[neat skiff]

Talent +0.1 Skill -0.2 = -0.1

402 by default. 362 with S2 active, 442 without it active.

But yeah, +healing recieved I could see as the trait all crushers get since pumping out thousands of healing on demand isn't exactly common.

[worldly stirrup]

And +aspd stat bonus from module
2.5 sec atk interval is too long

[ocean ether]

speaking of modules... how bad is mountain's mod

I mean, on paper it really looks shit

[neat skiff]

Mountain basically doesn't need his talents until you're malding his dodge on something he really shouldn't be fighting anyway.

[ocean ether]

how useful is this...

[neat skiff]

The real benefit is 200 hp and 60 attack.

200 more hp is 14 more hps.

192 > 206.

[worldly stirrup]

Yeah. Not that good

I would rather use the resources for other operator

Maybe base module is enough.
More than that is just waste recource

[neat skiff]

Then S2 active he goes from 1138 atk to 1246 atk, with 10 aspd. Even if he gets the other module it will still suck since the devs love boosting def via talents.

Especially since it will be 15% phys dodge boosting his def/phys dodge talent.

If not wanting to waste resources the best upcomers are GoldenGlow, Wisadel, Logos and 1 other I'm looking up.

[worldly stirrup]

Yeah, Im definetly gonna mod3 GG.

[clever bluff]

Hey folks, currently doing the event is-6 stage. I’m sure of got the units that can do it just a skill issue on my part and would appreciate some guidance

[ocean ether]

degen probably

[neat skiff]

If you're getting Degen then she really wants her module for the damage multipliers.
Zuo Le loves his module but it isn't mandatory.
Ela module is a huge boost but she basically isn't really used outside of showcases.
The lord guards all got great modules.

[cosmic thicket]

what r u losing to

[ocean ether]

not sure what you are losing to because this team shouldnt have any issues

[clever bluff]

Right at the end a bunch of henchmen get through and I’m all out of steam

[ocean ether]

mid or left

[cosmic thicket]

is it bc ur blocking the limo so a bunch of dudes spill out and ur out of block

[clever bluff]

Mid map

[clever bluff]

That’s the one

[ocean ether]

sounds like limo

[cosmic thicket]

do you have gravel

[neat skiff]

Specialist.

[cosmic thicket]

an option is to actually block the limo early and almost kill it, then retreat the blocker and let a ranged unit kill it

[clever bluff]

Yes

[ocean ether]

he has mountain, lappland and hoshi though, cant mountain just solo left side and right side have lappland + hoshi?

[cosmic thicket]

limo can't be silenced ik that for sure

[ocean ether]

not for silence but just for damage

[cosmic thicket]

oh

[worldly stirrup]

S2 for arts dmg

[cosmic thicket]

maybe

[ocean ether]

and to block in when it explodes

[clever bluff]

Ok what’re we thinking because this sounds good but I’m confused

Mountain on the left is what I was doing anyway

Hoshi mid

[worldly stirrup]

Wait i need to check the map.
I kinda forgot how it look like

[worldly stirrup]

Ah. This one

Should be easy tho with your unit

[ocean ether]

honestly... I would say just borrow typhon and skip the stage because you arent going to be farming here

[clever bluff]

I’ll refresh until I get one. Yeah I’m trying to farm incandescent alloy to e2 pinecone

[clever bluff]

What role is typhon so I know what I’m looking for.

[worldly stirrup]

Sniper

[ocean ether]

anyways just do something like this

I doubt you need a recording for this, its pretty simple

ignore kal, forgot to take her out

not used anyways

[clever bluff]

Who should I take out for gravel

[ocean ether]

dont need gravel

she wasnt used lol

everyone was either blocked by cuora or mountain or lappland

ptilo is in a very bad position so might want to swap her and steward so she can actually heal lol

but its not like its a very heal intensive map so dosent really matter

in case it wasnt obvious, use hoshi in cuora's place. I dont have hoshi

you can swap fang to someone with more dmg to help kill the limos faster, dosent matter

or just borrow typhon and skip the stage

[clever bluff]

Typhon and moving mountain down there trivialised it

The limo wasn’t the issue then it was the big masked archer thing one shotting stuff but typhon stun kicked in. Had those three ranged tiles with arts mages

[ocean ether]

you are not going to like stage 8 btw

[clever bluff]

Well I need 10 for alloy farm. I have a feeling I’m just gonna do 3-6 and pray

[ocean ether]

as in stage 8 is pretty painful even with a borrow

I dont even know if its possible without E2

[worldly stirrup]

That stage is dps check lol.
Need a lot of AOE

[clever bluff]

E1 lava got it no problem 😂

[neat skiff]

Still farm some of the earlier stages to buy out the pulls and exp/lmd from the shop.

[clever bluff]

Yeah just gonna pick up one more permit and lmd

[neat skiff]

Those battle records are 56,000 exp.

[clever bluff]

Yeah I’ll see what I can milk out of it the next couple days then go back to working on e2 pinecone. Thanks for the help, appreciate it

[neat skiff]

Yeah, the next 2 events aren't exactly new player friendly either.

So farm away.

[ocean ether]

lol why is this video 100mb

@clever bluff This is the best strat I can come up for you for IS-8 https://youtu.be/HsjF-CpgMDc with your team + 1 typhon borrow

wont be accurate because I got quite a few E2s more than you do but if you cant clear with this, then eh.... good luck?

[neat skiff]

Bro has zero E2 ops.

[ocean ether]

yep which is why its nearly impossible

or try following kyo's guide, he didnt use any E2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUKtbJRBzdM

[crude oak]

torn if I want to do module for GG, is it worth it?

[thick cradle]

12 - 6 can anyone gimme a mountain?

[long lotus]

IS-8 is easily the most brainrotten (and hardest) level in this event

it's literally random bullshit go but 0 downtime

[glass monolith]

While it is indeed random bullshit go it give decent time to get DP to deploy player owned bullshit

[neat skiff]

Her module gains the biggest boost on stages where she both uses S3 and can change targets a lot. Plus S3 has the biggest +atk% to boost going from 300% atk explosions to 360% atk explosions.
Her base module goes from 20% initial to 35% initial so going from 6 attacks for max damage to 5 attacks for max.
The upgrades boost the explosion atk_scale%
The raw stats take her from 391 atk to 429 atk.
If you're trying to decide between her and a different operator, or to hold the blocks for a future operator, hold off and see how much you use Degenbrecher. Degen really wants her module for the attack multipliers, after her it's a bunch of "ehh" modules before Wisadel/Logos/Lord guard quintuple punch to the gut and resource pile.

Plus the whole, if you don't really use GG then it's 12 module blocks you can't get back.

[narrow patrol]

Note. The sweeper is NOT part of the stage count and spawns if the bar up top gets full

[glass monolith]

Also not sure if it works on every stage, but in S-1 or EX-1 my kill of last enemy filled bar but stage ended before sweepers spawned

[merry narwhal]

the stage ends when you reached the kill count and there are no enemies on the map, so this is probably intended

i can only think of the ch11 trees being an exception to this

[scarlet mortar]

yh the trees kinda have an "active" flag to prevent the stage from ending after everything else's killed

unlike, say, the DV robots

[crude oak]

well, was planning on Degen, and certainly want the Lords etc, right now I can afford up to Ascalon

next after Degen was Shu, Zuo Le, Ela and Ascalon

[vernal lion]

man I hate the condition of this stage so much bruh

-50% dp regen is a bitch

[proud dune]

What are some suggestions for challenge mode Zaaro?

[vernal lion]

EX-8 or S-5 ?

[proud dune]

S-5, I’m having trouble with Ex-8 but I did that before so I can do it again

[worldly stirrup]

I use blaze and kaltsit to deal with left and mid lane.
And use anyone else to delete boss on the right side

[vernal lion]

yea, you can use Kal'tsit s3 to cheese the boss, true damage bypass the damage reduction

[proud dune]

I try to do that but those cleaners do so much damage, and so do the cars for some reason

[worldly stirrup]

Mont3r can spawn kill the cleaner

[vernal lion]

so you have problem with laner

what is your squad

[worldly stirrup]

And kaltsit can also heal blaze on the left side

The rest is just to deal with boss and right side

[vernal lion]

that team is just enough

[proud dune]

Gavial can general tank the boss in phase one, but then she does

Dies

[worldly stirrup]

Use hoshi to tank boss

Ifrit facing right so she can hit boss and other enemies

While mlynar kill the boss

[proud dune]

And any advice for the car rush on the left?

[worldly stirrup]

Gavial for left lane

Borrow kaltsit if you dont have her.

[proud dune]

I have her

[worldly stirrup]

And place her in mid facing down so she can heal gavial

And summon mon3r to spawn kill cleaner

[proud dune]

What tile is best to place him?

[worldly stirrup]

Near middle redbox

Place her so her range can cover gavial and mont3r

[worldly stirrup]

Like this

Replace blaze with gavial

And then just deal with boss when he is on the right side

[vernal lion]

also remember to bait 3 op for the boss 'Fear' skill

if all civis died

or just damage 25% hp

[proud dune]

Almost one that one, one cleaner killed Momst3r with the barest sliver of health but I had Saga back up to kill him

[worldly stirrup]

[proud dune]

Ended up with Ifrit, Ch’Alter, and Mlynar trying to burst down Zaaro and he still killed Hoshi right before dying

One more S stage is need to challenge mode, S-2

[worldly stirrup]

In my case, I use quercus for healing because she give 16% shelter.
It help my cuora to survive the boss

[proud dune]

I used Shinjng for the shield and physical buff

[vernal lion]

I think that one just like making the cleaner appear faster

[proud dune]

I might use the camping Mons strat onit

Also Zaaro’s boss theme slaps holy shit

[ocean ether]

borrow shamare or virtuosa and boss goes from hitting like a truck to tickling your units

[worldly stirrup]

It would be more better if you place ines shadow sentry first before deploying mont3r

[proud dune]

I tried using Virtuosa, he tended to kill her

[ocean ether]

where did you even place her, and deploy order?

[vernal lion]

tbh I just killed the boss right after it teleported to top right lane

[ocean ether]

same

[proud dune]

I probably paced her too close

Also what the hill is mean when one of the little tasks mentions exploding a car

[ocean ether]

dont block the car when you land killing blow, can block any other time

[vernal lion]

kill the car while it's not blocking

[proud dune]

And a Shadow Silencer for S-3

[vernal lion]

you can kill car while having levitate and sleep too, because those effects doesn't mean about blocking

[proud dune]

So bring Irene

And then S3 to go brr

[ocean ether]

just bring gravel and retreat when its left with alittle hp

[proud dune]

I, uh, haven’t actually raised Gravel yet

I could use Red or Phantom

[vernal lion]

you may need gravel because her barrier from s2 can help a lot

[somber falcon]

You can just use saga on them
Since wounded enemies doesn't get blocked

[proud dune]

Also a good point

[neat skiff]

So yeah. GoldenGlow is easily below Degen and Ela, on the same level as Shu and Zuo Le and way better than Ascalon.

[foggy grove]

🧑‍🍳

That's a take

[neat skiff]

Module and their upgrades.

Degen and Ela modules are pretty huge upgrades. GG, Shu and Zuo Le upgrades are all super nice to have but if you're rationing "how much do I use said op?". Ascalon module is garbage and makes Vigils look good.

[proud dune]

Damn I didn’t get it right

[foggy grove]

you are prolly underrating how huge his mod for zuo

as for shu eh idk maybe she'll get better mod

[neat skiff]

The mod is great for his kit. However he is still king of an unpopular archetype.

Similar to Penance module. Great for her, but she doesn't really get used all that often by most people.

[foggy grove]

archetype is whatever when 6* often break most of their rule
if unpopular means not afk or people hating button pressing i guess that's fair

[neat skiff]

Shu has the advantage of being in one of the most popular archetypes as well as "take a freshly deployed Saria, lower her stats a smidge, now give her both module effects and a greater focus on healing". But GG is damage.

It's like Mountain having 2 meh talents to begin with so the modules are going to be underwhelming. Chong Yue has a module that is about as impactful as Zuo Le since it's just more SP with each auto but it's not even part of the conversation.

[foggy grove]

?

chungus module nowhere that impactful

[void terrace]

Lmao zuo le is kinda cracked

[neat skiff]

You are right, that's what I get for woke up with no coffee.

Either way, GG is one of those ops who can be used almost everywhere with a good module but not a great module so it's a question of opportunity cost rather than any real meta reason.

[vernal lion]

GG fell off when there's taunt enemy, like in ZT

funny cello dude

[neat skiff]

Yes, a single event that is now over that had a taunt + res enemy means she fell off.

Especially when said event gives 50 aspd per gramophone thingy.

[vernal lion]

also stacks based on how many of them in a stage

[neat skiff]

Super fun event mechanic with some of the most milquetoast enemies possible.

[glass monolith]

There IS taunt enemy in IS... Which i found out only in EX stages because i leaked "event's dog"

[vernal lion]

big noble wolfman

not really annoying, but still tanky shit

[glass monolith]

Turns out it was EX-7 I really didn't notice him being taunt due all chain caster bullshitery going on

[ocean ether]

tanky shit dosen't exist when kal is around

[craggy turret]

Best op to tank the boss for IS-S-5?

[somber stone]

Hoshi

[craggy turret]

I'm alr using hoshi for the bottom left tho...

[neat skiff]

Someone with a good medic.

[craggy turret]

Ng + silence? My lumen is on hoshi

[neat skiff]

Silence would be good since the boss is phys damage.

[somber stone]

Wut

[neat skiff]

Derp, I was thinking Shining.

NG + Silence might be enough.

[craggy turret]

I did complete this stage on initial run, but I used a support kal, wanna see if I can do it with my own units

[vernal lion]

and have Quercus DR buff too

[craggy turret]

Using Typhon + arturia for DPS, I'm just having trouble tanking the boss

[vernal lion]

you don't tank the boss, you kill the boss

[somber stone]

Stainless turret

[vernal lion]

[craggy turret]

My quercus isn't built I do have gnosis tho

[neat skiff]

Yeah, phase 2 is painful. You need someone who can take those hits and someone who can heal those hits quickly.

[vernal lion]

iirc CM phase 2 boss has 2k atk per hit or smth

[craggy turret]

The only solution I can think of is maybe hoederer? I don't got him tho

[vernal lion]

no lol

boss hits twice, with around like 2k atk per hit

[craggy turret]

Hoderer + 4 medics

[craggy turret]

Doesn't he have over 5k hp on S3?

[neat skiff]

I know Gladiia mod 3 + Skadi has worked to tank. Bison, I think I remember Matterhorn also doing it.

[vernal lion]

I mean, your issue is outheal the boss dmg lol

[somber stone]

Bro does not know how def works

[vernal lion]

even if 20k hp with 0 def, boss still slaps him like a paper

[scarlet mortar]

10k, still folds

[craggy turret]

Good ol' saria stall then?

[somber falcon]

You can slow him down with your suzu instead

[neat skiff]

If allowed to stack her talent and with module, plus the standard array of healing.

[craggy turret]

Wanna keep him over here so he doesn't kill mudrock on the left

And so he stays in Typhon range

[somber falcon]

P1 clear

[proud dune]

Managed to clear all the S challenges

[somber falcon]

P2

[vocal leaf]

you can still use him to provide his talent to your blocker

i used bass+hoe to tank, only male ops

[glass monolith]

Or #strategy message

[somber stone]

Swalter

[glass monolith]

If Surtr event on CN have her alter i will call it Salter

[latent monolith]

I've seen silence alter called that tbh

Too many alters starting with S

[spice mortar]

Maybe with infinite dp

[ornate loom]

can anyone help me do the first EX stage? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588958885150721/1244206511714992171/image.png?ex=6654451c&is=6652f39c&hm=cedb27885eb05ec47b678bf0aaadc986f22b362600df831776063cadb052c87e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[worldly stirrup]

Borrow ling

[ornate loom]

tried, failed. :(

[worldly stirrup]

What?
How?

[ornate loom]

too many leak at the start

[worldly stirrup]

Use your vanguard for early laneholder

[peak cloak]

@undone sundial are u still needing help on auto farm is-8?

[undone sundial]

nope it worked :D

[peak cloak]

glad

[celest bluff]

Ifrit or gacha?

[merry narwhal]

you don't have enough to buy out the pulls or wdym

[celest bluff]

I never have enough to brought the pulls

[merry narwhal]

either way I wouldn't buy Ifrit though because powercreep

[celest bluff]

Damn

I should always I buy all pull ticket each month if I can right

[vivid rain]

Ifrit role isnt exactly powercrept yet but she is kinda too sparsely used buying her is not worth it

[merry narwhal]

yes, buy pulls. Once your account is powerful enough you can cope module blocks

[vivid rain]

Just have 100+ mod blocks in depot like me

[merry narwhal]

[spice mortar]

Also ifrit is rec op

[celest bluff]

I think I have about 50 e2

[spice mortar]

Even less reason to waste certs on ifrit

[tidal sedge]

Ayo bro where's your E2 Myrtle

If you want to borrow E2 OP operators then you must have E2 Myrtle raised

[ornate loom]

i have e2 cutter?

[merry narwhal]

don't mind him he's just trolling

[ornate loom]

bet

[celest bluff]

Anyone prema stun the wolf on his phase 2?

[tidal sedge]

Well okay then, you can see Low End guides in YouTube

KyostinV or Eckogen

[celest bluff]

Okay new account

[tidal sedge]

Not Perma Stun, but Typhon S2 can interrupt his attack animation

[celest bluff]

Hmm, hmm funny

I dont remember how I killed the wolf last year

[glass monolith]

I just feed him to Eunectes Pozyomka. His fault for having lose stun immunity in phase 2

[celest bluff]

Can you imagine Texalt cant stun the boss in her event

But I just slap her S2 and Surtr

[vital smelt]

Can someone help me with placements
Thanks

[remote perch]

damn

[merry narwhal]

which diff is this

[vital smelt]

I... Lost it the first time i played this, dont want to lose again
The first difficulty

[remote perch]

i would do something like

Reed on the range tile in the left and use s3 to clear the map

[merry narwhal]

ig you can open with Reedic and Jessicat on the two tiles all the way to the left. Once Reedic is done plowing snow you can deploy more stuff on the ranged tiles in the middle

[remote perch]

then myrtle to generate dp

[scarlet mortar]

jess S2 should be better

[merry narwhal]

if you have enough health you can ignore right side until boss is dead

[vital smelt]

Oh, okayy
I have 10 health, but I'm not too confident

[celest bluff]

No buff?

[high warren]

Got any luck with fordartals? How much life points you have left

[vital smelt]

F nope, no foldartal buff

[merry narwhal]

pozy will kill the boss very quickly, it should be fine

jessicat + reedic can hold left

[remote perch]

if this is low d, i would wait until i can deploy horn and jess in the same time and deploy horn first on the right and jess on the left

[peak cloak]

@undone sundial anyways whenever u need support units, remember to ping me.
i always remove friend to maintain one free slot for people like you

[merry narwhal]

defo open with reedic

[vital smelt]

Iirc i had some problem with my units dying when i tried it for the first time
So like, should i keep poz etc under reed range?

[remote perch]

u don't want horn to be a target of the boss so u want to deploy her first before jessica

[merry narwhal]

yes, but you can just deploy mwinner on another column to draw aggro. The boss attacks full columns from top to bottom

[remote perch]

since u know, u have no medic other than reedic

[celest bluff]

I think putting reedic down the jessicat on the left

Myrtle s2

[vital smelt]

Oh okayy, and like iirc boss had same periodic dmg stuff like is2 bsl right? Who should be the other target other than mlynar

[scarlet mortar]

you won't have to worry abt baiting tbh

[celest bluff]

This is bad advice don't even think about it

[remote perch]

the other target should be someone inside reedic range

[scarlet mortar]

once this tile is free drop mlynar here

the boss will just attack him til the end of p1

[vital smelt]

Oh okayyy
Also boss has 2 phases?

[dapper hedge]

Just kill the boss ASAP, Pozy, Mlynar can make it quick

[remote perch]

boss target 2 units, and 1 of them will be mlynar
so whoever will gatekeep right should be deployed first so they won't take aggro

[scarlet mortar]

p2 is at half hp

[remote perch]

p2 is at half HP where it gets 2 target and like tons of DR

[vital smelt]

Okayy so in a nutshell
I should follow like:
Open and clear snow by reed→drop jess on left→drop mlynar and poz?

[vital smelt]

Dr=damage reduction?

[remote perch]

yee

[celest bluff]

I pretty sure texalt and yato can solo the boss

[remote perch]

i rather drop myrtle first after reedic
reedic can kill the dog rush with her s3 so u should prioritize DP first

[celest bluff]

Because they always do

[vital smelt]

Oh okayy noted
Thanks

Will try, thanks everyone

[celest bluff]

You have any damage up relic

[scarlet mortar]

btw retreat myrtle once you've set up

[merry narwhal]

this is what I'd suggest. Reedic -> Jessicat -> Mwinner -> Pozy -> Horn

[scarlet mortar]

you can save her for p2

deploy her last in some empty lane to bait the stun skill

is JK supposed to be the typewriter

[merry narwhal]

yes

Reedic should destroy all of the snow even to the right of pozy, so it should work

so she can focus down the boss together with mwinner

[vital smelt]

Thanks everyone, i did it
All Advices were really helpful, finally 1 thing to take off my head

[peak cloak]

epico

[celest bluff]

I just had enough with these stage

[weak gazelle]

only take that give dupe furniture

[lethal dragon]

^^^

[ocean ether]

whats the issue?

[shy hull]

Hi, Currently trying to do lungmen downtown but I am having a hard time getting past 320 kills. Could anybody help me with my squad comp?

Current squad atm

[ocean ether]

assuming one borrow?

[shy hull]

yes

[peak cloak]

dig red out and replace with a sub tank

at first

[ocean ether]

do you have lappland or arene?

or midnight

[shy hull]

i dont have any of those

[shy hull]

i was using cuora before i swapped to red cause i was trying other ways

[ocean ether]

you should have midnight at least because thats a story op

he is a guard

[shy hull]

well i am on 3-4 atm

[ocean ether]

first of all, you need 2 healers

do you have perfumer

[shy hull]

i do, is ptilopsis not good enough?

[ocean ether]

preferbly both top and bottom AoE

but if not, bottom can be myrrh

[smoky halo]

ptlop is definitely good enough

she can handle lower lane

shaw at sl7 can handle bottom lane

u need max kroos tho

[ocean ether]

nah, borrow typhon will be easier

based on this

[smoky halo]

ditch red for gravel if u have her

[shy hull]

i dont have much problem with the bottom lane with shaw and ptilopsis

[smoky halo]

nah borrow typhon instead

way easier

[ocean ether]

vanilla on myrtle position, perfumer swap with ptilo, kroos swap with typhon borrow

[smoky halo]

u definitely need 2 vgs

[shy hull]

the top side is the problem for me cause the flying units usually gets past

[smoky halo]

ya kroos and typh can take care of that

occasionally drop gravel to help tank

[ocean ether]

you not having midnight is a big eh....

[smoky halo]

do u have pinecone btw?

[ocean ether]

are you sure you dont have midnight?

[shy hull]

these are my current ops

[smoky halo]

yikes

[shy hull]

the rest are just lvl 1

[smoky halo]

wait huh

[ocean ether]

did I just see mlynar and silverash

[smoky halo]

BLUD HAS MLYNAR AT LV1

[ocean ether]

what

[smoky halo]

literally best op in the game at lv1

well best op in EN

[shy hull]

i thought he was best at e2

[ocean ether]

this is actually a very stacked team Just unraised wth

[smoky halo]

e1 mlynar outdps e2 silverash btw

[shy hull]

so i focused on lower units

i see

[smoky halo]

hes pretty strong even at e1

[shy hull]

so i guess im going to use him in the top lane?

[smoky halo]

nah typh take cares of top lane

[ocean ether]

eh, mlynar wont really help I think

[smoky halo]

u just need a blocker to reveal invi dudes

[sly drift]

I heard silverash come back to meta again after mod. Is this true chat

[ocean ether]

typhon will take care of top to mid, you just need someone for bottom

[smoky halo]

once the wave of invi dudes are over

typh can take care of toplane without any blocker

leaving u with 1 free deploy slot

[smoky halo]

silverash will be around chalter level

with mod

[ocean ether]

Nah, they spawn in on the very top empty tile, so someone needs to block

[smoky halo]

thats after the waves of invi dudes

before i mean

im dumb

its the helidrop guys first

then wave of invi dudes

then typh can take care blocker-less

[shy hull]

alright ill try that

[smoky halo]

fang takes care of helidrop guys since they will be out of range of typh and pinecone

[shy hull]

any suggestions on who to change in my current squad?

[ocean ether]

gitano will be useless

red... eh, might need her to bait the bomb drones at bottom if typhon cant hit thoese

[smoky halo]

red to gravel
shirayuki to pinecone
kick beagle for a 2nd vg

[shy hull]

so i put kroos infront of typhoon ?

[ocean ether]

bottom will be quite annoying tbh

[smoky halo]

i sent a photo

[ocean ether]

no lol how are you supposed to fit that

[shy hull]

so i use pinecone over kroos?

[smoky halo]

by vg i mean pioneer

no

u need both

[shy hull]

ok then meteors gone

[smoky halo]

pinecone is there to tank since shes tankier than typhon

[ocean ether]

who is healing top

[smoky halo]

for some reason e1 pinecone is tankier than e2 typhon lul

well since no silence ig myrh will have to do

he has ptlop so i doubt he needs silence drone for bottom

[ocean ether]

behind typhon?