strategy

[stable igloo]

got tequila,amiya,gummy,cuora,may,perfurmer(ptilo already 2)

what you mean by shafted?

[ocean ether]

dont bother upgrading her

[stable igloo]

cause surtr is a thing

not sure when i get that one tho

[ocean ether]

no, she is just bad in general. And if you are pulling degen in a month or so you immediately replace vivi

[stable igloo]

i only pulled for 1 pity on the special banner since the acc is started,so i'm saving right now

degen?

i heard of a goat women that deal tons of damage,dont know her name tho

[ocean ether]

https://gamepress.gg/arknights/operator/degenbrecher

[stable igloo]

i was hoping she come next but well

[ocean ether]

I dont think she is a goat...

[stable igloo]

ah yeah thats her

i dont know, a horny lady :x

ngl i can't put a difference in all those horns

so this one is comming soon?

[ocean ether]

in about a month, give or take a few days

[stable igloo]

so close yet so far away

[ocean ether]

cant give you an accurate date because rule 5

[stable igloo]

guess i'll focus on the 5-4* then

[ocean ether]

show team

[stable igloo]

right now its that

and myrtle

forgot her

meteorite and kaze arent classified as "good" unit but i just like them

[ocean ether]

you honestly dont need myrtle because you have ines for now

[stable igloo]

so i went for it

[ocean ether]

ines can handle all your DP gen needs unless its some crazy challenge stage or annihilation

[stable igloo]

yeah its mainly for anni

cause with only ines its undoable

[ocean ether]

you should benefit from virtuosa in this team tbh

[stable igloo]

replacing who you'd think

[ocean ether]

just replace vivi

[stable igloo]

sadge

dont get why they put her in such a bad spot,i love her so much

[ocean ether]

virtuosa is one of the best trash clearers in the game atm

[stable igloo]

guess i'll upgrade her later on

with s3 maxing?

[ocean ether]

keyword on "trash"

yep with S3

[stable igloo]

does arknight do balance patch and shit?

[ocean ether]

no

[stable igloo]

or you just have your unit and cry on it

[ocean ether]

they just add more OP shit

[stable igloo]

damn thats harsh

i saw W alter will be fun

[ocean ether]

oh you mean by buffing units?

[stable igloo]

nuke everything

yeah buffing

[ocean ether]

units do occassionally buff, they have this thing called module

[stable igloo]

ah

thats how they do it

[ocean ether]

like for example lords, e.g. thorns. Just got their module in CN

[stable igloo]

so i have to pray for a vivianna up from that thing only

its kinda sad

[ocean ether]

https://youtu.be/y7Ild1Tv-Dg?si=48JFmA6-itFGLqkd&t=9

so his damage bascially double - trippled

[stable igloo]

[ocean ether]

though thorns still bad because you cant get his skill up for most stages, but at least he has "usable" damage when its up now

[stable igloo]

i feel really bad for starting this game that late

the lack of unit i feel is incredible

+event for upgrades mats

[ocean ether]

nah its fine

because everyone gets powercrept by Walter and logos in 6 months anyways

[stable igloo]

need to save for them after goat mommy i guess

i think in between their is a very good healing tank comming

[ocean ether]

shu

[stable igloo]

but outside those 2 i dont know much

[ocean ether]

shu is the CNY banner, and its also stacked though not as much as anniv 5

anniv 5 is just straight out "who the fk cooked this"

[stable igloo]

what do you mean

so much good stuff?

or not enough

[ocean ether]

Walter straight out powercreeps everyone in existence in pure DPS
logos powercreeps the entire caster class

both on same banner

[stable igloo]

kek

so you are telling me i started the game when its the end of the game

[ocean ether]

nah its not the end

no where near probably

its just the fate of all gacha games and powercreeping

[stable igloo]

hope i can still enjoy a bit of it then

[ocean ether]

theres still alot to enjoy atm

and btw, if you haven't start doing IS, you really should

[stable igloo]

i did

the monthly stuff almost all of it

[ocean ether]

3 is easier for newbies

then 2 and finally 4

4 is straight out hell for anyone without fully built teams

[stable igloo]

well thats the first one i went into

it disgusted me of it for a while

and now i did my first clear of the "vampire" one

too long enough

[ocean ether]

3 is borrow texalter to win,
2 is borrow pozy to win boss fight, but struggle for everything else
4 is just.. LOL

I would say borrow exalter if you just want a clear for 4 He is easier for low diff and non-built squds

[stable igloo]

i'm already borrowing unit for the vampire one(typhon from 6 hopes and nearl for 3)

so my early is almost always safe tho

until boss fight :x

[ocean ether]

recommended for 2 is pozy because pozy ignores boss dodge mechanics

[stable igloo]

wait those D dodge things?

[ocean ether]

she also has a few pozy tiles for her and the turret

[stable igloo]

that explain a lot

i really need to gather data on IS like what node to do,avoid etc

i'm mostly, progressing to get my loots without thinking much so far

[ocean ether]

better off asking IS stuff in #is-station

[stable igloo]

i'll do that, i need to get some progression done

do you mind if i show you something via /w? could use your advice

[astral cosmos]

aosta was great in zt s 4

[gray stone]

Any tips versus S-5?

just asking ahead (I procrastinated the entire event)

[astral cosmos]

just cleared it

I used Morgan

but essentially it's just making sure you have enough dps to cycle through the boss and not letting any side leak

[gray stone]

I just know Exalter goes very hard there

[pearl breach]

One ball is enough to kill the boss in a single phase. Place them wisely so at least two or three of your dps can hit them simultaneously. Along with the last two deployed ops (preferably frd units)

[gray stone]

"place them wisely" then I proceed to use it to battery Executor

[ornate siren]

a little too schizophrenic for S-4?

[astral cosmos]

might work tbf

dp might be lacking though

[ornate siren]

i have lotta dp printers

felt being moderate

actually yeah cantabile might explode herself hitting cello

[dapper hedge]

That's what I used

Just brute force em

[astral cosmos]

me coping with aosta

[dapper hedge]

I saw the dude camping the tuner and just go fuck it ignore everything

[ornate siren]

yep, lets go. should be good

[worldly stirrup]

Just borrow virtuosa. She make this stage much easier

[narrow patrol]

Hoshiiiiiiiii

[astral cosmos]

my lost self using bison (he died)

[rigid oracle]

my genius idea to use april on the ex-8 boss has backfired

he cannot teleport her because she's camouflaged

[astral cosmos]

consider using the uncamouflaged April

[summer copper]

I used ines for the buttom right tune thingy in s-4
the timing is hard but I managed to get it
if the buttom right tune can be activated then typhon+thorn will solo upper tile

could of use horn for it

just realised

[ocean ether]

like void said, just borrow virtuosa, or mlynar and you can easily cheese the stage

[tidal sedge]

The funniest way to cap bot right device is Kafka s2

[cosmic thicket]

BASED

[fading hill]

Im trying to get quartz to highest defense possible

So far ive gotten 307

With max silence, roberta, and aak

[foggy grove]

silence?

you can add shining,bard and other def buffer

[fading hill]

I meant shining lol

My stupid ass

[foggy grove]

do you have skaler?

or copium heidi

[fading hill]

No :(

[vital arrow]

Heidi s2

[fading hill]

Mmm

Ok

[sharp wadi]

S3 is hardest among s stage

[sharp wadi]

Anything can go left after kill that thing and surtr for the right

[gray stone]

S-4 is a joke of a stage but maybe that's because I have Texas Yato Ines so I never struggled with the left tuner

[worldly stirrup]

you guys use tuner in S-4?

i just brute force it with mlynar and virtuosa

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah rarity abuser can do that, maybe 5* too

[fading hill]

Quartz at over 300 defense

[scarlet fulcrum]

And still leaked

[fading hill]

Myrtle leaked

[ocean ether]

wouldnt popkuar be a better choice since she attacks all blocked enemies? If you are doing low rarity stuff anyways

[scarlet fulcrum]

Crusher also do that, but bit slower

[rough sigil]

Any fun ways to kill Mandragoa? I just got to her stage

[ocean ether]

fun? Based on what team comp?

If you are looking for lore-accurate, use bagpipe to last hit mandragoa

[rough sigil]

That's fair, I was just thinking of the best way to make her EXPLODE

[scarlet mortar]

i mean reed2 + cexas could be fun ig

if that's your cup of tea

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp fun subjective ig

[rough sigil]

Might just use ms.nukes every boss and see if I can kill her with only one pillar

[scarlet fulcrum]

or no pillar

[scarlet mortar]

reed2 S2, cexas S2 and a gravel is enough to kill phase 1 without pillars

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp in sense stalling also no pillar for phase1

[tidal sedge]

Amiya s3 buff squad is funny for Mandra imo

[ocean ether]

could always go for the Typhon S3 only clear... theres a video where mandragoa gets deleted in 7 secs, and kyo did a lore-authentic bagpipe last hit. Fun is subjective tbh and based on what team comp you have + what you find fun

[merry narwhal]

do Arturia + Diamante and ignore the shield 🥹

[tidal sedge]

That is also comedic

You can use Eben too if inclined

[rough sigil]

Oh I've been wanting to build my Diamante

[foggy grove]

mine stuck at e1 max

gated by the new mats

[merry narwhal]

you can borrow mine. He's maxed but I still need 2 more pots to feed into my sunk cost fallacy

[void terrace]

Hmm is is Ifirt mod worth

It looks kinda good

[void terrace]

Take mylnar and 5 kazimers ops and cluster them at the top of the map

Burst down her phase 1 and use mylnars reflect in her damaging field to kill her with true dmg

[forest steppe]

Just got to the final wave of Chernobog annhilation with this team, but they got destroyed at the final moment. Are they underlevelled or is my strategy the problem?

[void terrace]

^^

Thoughts anyone

[surreal star]

mod lvl 2 feels good to use to me but i don’t know how much of an increase it actually is

[void terrace]

I mean the sp gain is a little random

And I don't think I'm going mod 3

I'm just waiting for her second mod to shred 55% of enemy res

[limpid siren]

ifrit doesn't struggle with sp in the first place

[void terrace]

Exactly

[ocean ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU_mKJ6sG5Y

[limpid siren]

as with most +sp effects it will often feel better than it actually is

[void terrace]

Tq

[ocean ether]

theres barely any difference with mod 0 and mod 3

[limpid siren]

and will very rarely have a real impact on whether you win or lose

it showed up in high risk strats for the CC season we'll get soon enough, but that's not really the kind of content many players care about

[ocean ether]

If only every module was like thorn's module

[summer copper]

do something like this at the start
don't have to copy, they are all replaceable
plume+fang are used to get dp and plume can be replaced if u got smth like myrtle

[forest steppe]

This feels like forbidden knowledge, thank you

[summer copper]

when u get smth like 100+ dp switch plume to beagle

[forest steppe]

I haven't put a single level into plume because some guide said she's useless 💀

I will rectify that

[summer copper]

oh wait

actually

switch plume to beagle and switch kroos to catapult (aoe phy)

[forest steppe]

I don't have catapult but I have Aosta, will he do the trick?

[summer copper]

is aosta aoe physical dmg

[forest steppe]

Yeah

[summer copper]

then ye it should

[forest steppe]

But he's short range

Like his Aoe is a plus shape

[summer copper]

oh then

maybe not work

since u need catapult for drones later

all the ops here only need to be elite 0 lvl 45 sl4 if u got 100 trust

[forest steppe]

I'll try and promote him, elite 1 gives him better range

[summer copper]

anyways after smth like kill 340 replace fang with melantha cz there is a caster coming out
just deploy melantha on the face of that caster

[forest steppe]

Gotcha

[summer copper]

after the caster got killed retreat melantha

oh fuck wait I forgot to place lava

[forest steppe]

any aoe caster do the trick? I've got a 4 star I leveled up

[ocean ether]

erm, do you understand why people say "plume is useless"? And no she isnt useless

[summer copper]

anyways this is the right setup after retreat plume

[forest steppe]

Sir, I have had the game for 4 days

[summer copper]

I forgot lava exist

[forest steppe]

I'll try your setup, I think my problem was I was stretched too thin

Had operators all over

[ocean ether]

Plume is "useless" because much better units exists and ppl will tell you to use thoese instead.

But if you are a brand new player and don't have any good ops, she is a decent choice for early lanehold

[forest steppe]

Better than scav?

[ocean ether]

they serve different purposes

[summer copper]

at kill 350 when enemy 2 caster is on E5 place kroos and plume
don't deploy them before they walk onto E5 or kroos will get killed

after plume got killed place fang at G4

and the rest is just basically stalling this guy with melantha

[forest steppe]

What about the shield guys top lane? Won't they just kill my defender?

[summer copper]

thats what steward for

[forest steppe]

ohhhh

I thought he was the other twink

[summer copper]

also got ansel there

[forest steppe]

The one with the crossbow

[summer copper]

u can just open all op skills at your will

but u will need most dmg skill+beagle skill after smth like 380 tho

[forest steppe]

Gotcha. I'll try this out, thanks a lot

[summer copper]

imma go cook dinner

[forest steppe]

enjoy

[summer copper]

btw shaw should be sl4 and using s1

[ocean ether]

erm... wouldnt it be easier to just attach a video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLyA5_Fc9xA

@forest steppe

[summer copper]

idk

cz this 1 is e1 and mine 1 is e0?

[vivid rain]

Hmm?

3 stars dont need chips to e1 if you cares about that

[summer copper]

they had the game 4 only 4 days or smth

[vivid rain]

Smh imagine not e2 cutter day 1 (humus is better tbh)

[ocean ether]

You could always buy E2 skip + selector, and E2 mlynar on day 1

[vivid rain]

You can actually e2 maweenar day 1 on ZT iirc

Because IS gives e2 guard chips and event gives e1 chips

[ocean ether]

how are you supposed to access IS on day 1?

[tidal sedge]

Rush 3-8 completion

Although an actually new person would not be able to do that in all likelihood

[ocean ether]

thats at least reaching chapter 4, even if you play the entire day non-stop and spam OP refreshes, you wouldn't have enough time to both reach chapter 4 and do event for e1 chips

[vivid rain]

Well how do you think people e2 cutter day 1? E2 skip voucher?

[ocean ether]

a real newbie wouldn't be capable of rushing to chapter 4 on day 1

[vivid rain]

I never said it was a newbie’s strat

[round yew]

It's not that hard if you borrow e1 units

[ocean ether]

I am pretty sure typhon borrow can carry you straight through, but newbies wouldnt know how to use her that quickly

[tidal sedge]

If you know what ops are good or not, general standard strategies, and what ops are worth invest in yeah.

[round yew]

I happened to borrow texalt because her cool l2d

[vivid rain]

It’s the reroller’s strat, not for casual players

[tidal sedge]

Actual new players don't have that knowledge

[ocean ether]

Imagine newbies borrowing typhon and then go "Why does this operator not hit the tiles right in front of her! She sucks!"

[vivid rain]

Iirc there is an actual day 1 cutter e2 guide somewhere but i dont have it

[round yew]

back then, I looked at mlynar kit and thought, ew doesn't even block

[tidal sedge]

Reapers come to mind for me for that. Unhealable trait makes folks wary. Though they're actually quite strong early in reality.

[ocean ether]

reapers hard carry for newbie low chapters though since there isnt really anything that can kill them (apart from casters)

[tidal sedge]

Exactly. But early tutorials teach medic + defender + ranged dps tank and spank. So seeing unhealable trait spooks some folks unless they've other people telling them otherwise. I saw it when Pluma first released.

[ocean ether]

Imagine if a newbie's first operator is walter

[tidal sedge]

That wouldn't be so bad. A new person could easily see flingers as marksman that does aoe but can't hit air. Unhealable trait is a much in-your-face downside that someone can easily analyze poorly

[foggy grove]

very common question is who can heal enmity

[ocean ether]

I would point them at perfumer since she is obtainable for newbies

[glass monolith]

Sora because i have questionable waifu tastes

[hollow epoch]

Big sad lock is being a massive pain, is the strat to either hit it with big damage hits or not at all?

I seem to lose most often because it keeps spamming large aoe hits that are supposed to only come every 20 times its hit but actually seem much more common

[tidal sedge]

Besides the global retaliation attack, it still has a normal attack that targets 2 ops with decently high phys atk

[vital arrow]

20 hits isnt as many as you would think it is

[ocean ether]

eh, what mission is this?

[vital arrow]

Like thorns counts as 2 hits

[hollow epoch]

Is2 boss 2

[vital arrow]

Pozy is generally the go to dps for this stage

Or schwarz

[hollow epoch]

Pozy is interesting

I was not in the best spot so i was using click to chip the generated shield and exalter to dps him down while also dealing with a bunch of peons

[vital arrow]

Click is 2 hits per attack

Exalt has a chance to double hit per attack

Go figure

[hollow epoch]

And why is click 2 hits per attack?

[vital arrow]

Drone caster

Its literally their trait

[hollow epoch]

I forgor

[foggy grove]

exalt should be fine

pointing click is badge tho

[vital arrow]

Also idk why youre using click

[tidal sedge]

Mech accord trait. She and her drone attack simultaneously, even off-skill

[vital arrow]

Teddy has 70 res

[foggy grove]

on normal he should shred

[ocean ether]

what about ethan S1

[hollow epoch]

Doesnt he have an arts shield i need to break every 45 seconds or so or the enemies get buffed

[vital arrow]

You can break it with anything

[hollow epoch]

Oh ok

[tidal sedge]

It's not an arts shield per se. Any damage type works

[hollow epoch]

Good future reference, ill use mlynar next time

Thats surely 1 hit

[foggy grove]

ya point click elsewhere

[vital arrow]

Surely right

[tidal sedge]

He's 2 hits

[vital arrow]

Mlynar is 2 hits too

[foggy grove]

exalt can solo dps bear

[tidal sedge]

The big phys and minor true damage are separate hits

[vital arrow]

The problem is usually keeping exalt alive

[hollow epoch]

Perchance, does virtuosa necrosis count as one hit per tick?

[tidal sedge]

Yes

[vital arrow]

Yes

Like the necrosis burst

[foggy grove]

it's not hard,you just need to bait the other attack

[hollow epoch]

Things are rapidly becoming clear

[vital arrow]

Or the necrosis damage

The necrosis damage isnt an attack

[tidal sedge]

You can see it in action in ZT vs cellists if you proc necrosis when they have shields

[vital arrow]

It just deals elemental damage

[hollow epoch]

The burst is just one hit so it shouldnt be that bad

[vital arrow]

The necrosis burst functions as a normal dot

[hollow epoch]

Comaprative to the damage dealt by dot

[vital arrow]

The burst is literally 15 hits

[hollow epoch]

Oh

[vital arrow]

Theres no damage in the burst

When necrosis pops it just does 15s of 800 damage dot

[hollow epoch]

I feel like i should just make a list of units that should and should not be allowed to be pointed at the boss

[quick pecan]

i don’t think most units should be pointed at the boss

you spam the little laser thingy to win

[foggy grove]

it's bear

[quick pecan]

oh

why did i think this was zt

sad lock?

[foggy grove]

ya

[quick pecan]

oddly enough the falling rocks do arts

for reasons

[tidal sedge]

I used ZT enemy as an example for necrosis DoT being separate hits. That is probably what confused you.

[quick pecan]

honestly i went back to is2 bc i still have a lot of levels of mats to get

exalt with halfway decent relics was pretty good against sad lock

you just don’t deploy him last

[hollow epoch]

So the only things on my account i can point at the bear is exalter, mlynar, pozy or surtr, and all of them only with their extended range?

[quick pecan]

need enough units to be baited by rocks and an aoe medic

usually makes the rest of it pretty shrimple

[hollow epoch]

Perfumer was actually doing p well until click and virtuosa (for now obvious reasons) turned on his ultra instinct and made him mega spam his rocks

[quick pecan]

yeah fast attacks / multi hit is countered by that boss pretty hard

[tidal sedge]

You sure? Everything I'm checking says phys.

[quick pecan]

someone told me they do arts?

[foggy grove]

one attack is arts

[vital arrow]

The rock is phys

[foggy grove]

but idr which

[vital arrow]

The global is arts

[tidal sedge]

The retaliation attack is arts

[quick pecan]

ah ok

[analog pond]

How does the redeploy of the zt boss work? Is it just the last two deployed?

[foggy grove]

unless taunt ye

[vital arrow]

Normal targeting priority

[tidal sedge]

Yes. Also obeys taunt.

[analog pond]

Ok ok thanks

[quick pecan]

the side lines are moderately low pressure against sad lock in terms of enemy stats / damage capabilities

they just spam fodder

[vital arrow]

if you damage it fast enough it can skip multiple teleports

[halcyon adder]

Mlynar kinnda ass becuz of it

[quick pecan]

except for the few bigger guys

[vital arrow]

Few

You mean when the bear spams golems and gargoyles?

[ocean ether]

3 factors affect

1. If mlynar on field, he gets teleported because taunt talent
2. If operator was marked and mark not cleared, they get teleported because they have taunt
3. Last two deployed operators after checking for above

[quick pecan]

what diff is he playing on

[vital arrow]

And TW shield matterlurgists

Pretty sure its normal

[ocean ether]

nah, just deploy mlynar to bait teleport and then forget he exists

[quick pecan]

should be more than fine then if he just keep ops healed

[analog pond]

I’m just dying on zt s 5 cm right now

[quick pecan]

more than meets the damage check tbh

[ocean ether]

whats the issue? Show team

you can generally clear ZT S 5 cm by just slapping the ball whenever you can unless you are severely undergeared

[analog pond]

I think it’s just the micromanaging. Not killing the boss fast enough

Ok yep just passed it

[serene umbra]

Hello ! I need help to clear ZT-9 but I'm struggling a little>< here is my squad

I know I have to turn on the third instrument, but every time I do I get killed by the enemy next door and I don't have Gravel mounted

[radiant dune]

Borrow yato alter to just kill the dudes next to the tuners

[serene umbra]

Okay :0

[fading hill]

thats not the point

im tryna see how high i can get quartz from 0 defense

its not about success

ive gotten her to 388def so far

my aak is underleveled however

it can get higher

[fading hill]

id just use blaze if i were trying to win

[vital arrow]

Aak s2 buff isnt even based on his def

[civic bear]

as in skill level p sure

[serene umbra]

Succeeded thanks !

[cedar hound]

No problem

[radiant dune]

Add like byrophyta and heidi, maybe gamiya if u care about the 14% extra

[ornate siren]

exu is getting taunted so she cant charge device. theres chokehold on topright. texas should be better to charge device right

i want to prevent cello from getting shields and hammer to stun my mid laneholder

so i gotta use device to change ourple to yellow

wait i can just yato the device before purple comes so she doesnt explode herself

[vivid rain]

There is a tile on top of device, you can place anyone up there to charge it

[ornate siren]

ok i think im good now. just have to cheese the aspect onto boss like usual

this is only hard because exu doesnt align with aspect and im forced to deploy her for boss’ binding occasion

[outer patio]

for the 2nd phase

this way

but instead of Pinecone a 2nd healer on top

[random frost]

the what

[outer patio]

and lastest deploy is a tank

[random frost]

do smt like this instead

[astral cosmos]

that's an
interesting setup

[random frost]

then use the ball to do dmg to boss when the peashooter goes behind boss p2

[outer patio]

the thing I don't have most of them

[random frost]

i meant placements not ops

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah do rarity abuse instead

[outer patio]

I have these

[outer patio]

oh

[random frost]

i dont think ur dps would be an issue

try borrowing exia instead

exia makes witch king witch clown in this event

[outer patio]

better than executor alter?

[random frost]

not sure
enmity kinda diff

but exia cant rlly go wrong with good timing

[outer patio]

I see

I guess I will go with 2 tanks before the blue box and chalter behind them

[hushed umbra]

Is this possible with this roaster?

[lapis hornet]

probs

[ocean ether]

very possible LOL

[hushed umbra]

I cant seem to get enough points

[ocean ether]

oh is this the stage where you dont get DP?

just slot fang in

or myrtle if you have her

though you have elysium so shouldn't have any DP problems honestly

[ocean ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKbAK1-Q6fI

[astral cosmos]

why am i seeing aosta

[glass monolith]

(E0 Elysium)

[ocean ether]

probably newer account and just slotting whoever he has

[astral cosmos]

e1 aosta on top of that

[vivid rain]

aosta moment

[ocean ether]

arent you the specialist for things like these?

[astral cosmos]

yeah that's why I'm concerned

[hushed umbra]

I like him

[astral cosmos]

fair (his gameplay is garbage so uh might wanna use someone else still)

[hushed umbra]

I am

But i like his trait the spreashooting

[ornate loom]

which support reinforcement e2 should i get for chernobog annihilation? i have it on 399 out of 400 so i just wanna get it done

[ocean ether]

show team

and i am assuming you have no issues with healing and other stuff right?

the default borrow choice for annihilation these days is typhon S2

[ornate loom]

i just yoinked typho

it was just one dog who leaked at the start genuinely have no problems with hthe stage

[ocean ether]

? then you should have killed that dog or restarted before 100 kills

[ornate loom]

i didnt notice lol 💀

[ocean ether]

btw annihilation full refund sanity if you leave before 100 kills

[ornate loom]

ohh

it was after 100 tho

no matter, e2 typho will get it for sure

[ocean ether]

well... you have your answer then borrow typhon and go deal with that 1 doggie

[ornate loom]

rushing cutter to e2 was a good idea

[ocean ether]

typhon is bascially default borrow choice for most annihilations since she covers a massive area and is AFK

[ornate loom]

ye

man i love afk abilities

like lappland s1

which operators have rlly good afk abilities like typho does?

[ocean ether]

eh, look up any high end AFK guide

[ornate loom]

by afk abilities i mean those that activate once and do not run out

[ornate loom]

btw what is the next easiest annihilation after chernobog?

[ocean ether]

yea, most afk guides will use thoese

[ornate loom]

the dog still leaked oh my lord i really have to get a guard back there just for a single dog im tweaking bro

[ocean ether]

just bring plume or fang or someone

[ornate loom]

yea

[ocean ether]

you get full refund anyways before 100 kills

[ornate loom]

its at 140 lol

[ocean ether]

?

[ornate loom]

140 kills

[ocean ether]

what is happening that typhon cant kill at 140

[ornate loom]

8 dogs at once

idk how she cant kill it but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ocean ether]

are you not blocking at all?

[ornate loom]

i am.

[ocean ether]

because typhon has slow ASPD

[ornate loom]

with a defender.

i know the solution its just

annoying

[ocean ether]

show the part where you fail LOL

[heady sphinx]

what annihilation is this?

[ocean ether]

3

[ornate loom]

no its not i literally cant finish it

i know how to

i just didnt want to lol

i hoped it was some rng bug

[ocean ether]

there isnt ever gonna be RNG unless its some weird boss b.s

[ornate loom]

ill note that down

cuz sometimes my auto deploys fail

used to

i mean

[heady sphinx]

kinda hard to help you if we don't know what part you fail at

[ornate loom]

i said three times already i dont need help bro

[heady sphinx]

so...whats the entire point of this conversation?

[ornate loom]

i was asking who to borrow lol

[ocean ether]

just search based on the numbers, so like annihilation 4 and so on

[ornate loom]

ohh

ty

[ocean ether]

by search, i mean youtube video

[ornate loom]

chernobog is 1?

[ocean ether]

yes

then lungmen is 2 and 3

[ornate loom]

oki

ty

[ocean ether]

if they say permanent missions anyways

abandoned mine is one that becomes a very big joke with typhon

[ornate loom]

is it like

very easy

single lane shit or smth

i just cant find proper guides with like reinforce units

[ocean ether]

typhon will kill 90% of the mobs

[ornate loom]

💀

always the low end guides

[ocean ether]

just slot her here

[ornate loom]

bet

i need to do annihilations cuz degen is coming..

[ocean ether]

she can actually kill more than 90% if you slot her somewhere else, but meh

anyways, most of the older annihilations are a joke with typhon

[ornate loom]

i see

man klip u smart

some arknights veteran?

[ocean ether]

No, just that I went through the phase recently

[ornate loom]

no but u like

helped me the other day too

[ocean ether]

so I know the newbies pains more than the vets

[ornate loom]

whos the best single caster in the game btw

eyja?

[ocean ether]

lol, is this including the announced casters?

[ornate loom]

yea

[ocean ether]

because logos powercreeps the entire caster class

[ornate loom]

logos

i see

[ocean ether]

he isnt available for EN yet

[ornate loom]

ye

i heard walter is rlly good too

[ocean ether]

there is honestly no reason to get another caster once logos is out because he does everything the casters do and better

walter powercreeps the entire dps meta

[ornate loom]

lol

[astral cosmos]

didn't have enough of reed powercreeping most casters

[ornate loom]

why so many good characters

[ocean ether]

tbf, having a medic powercreeping most casters was a big moment

[ornate loom]

reed the medic...?

[astral cosmos]

ye

[ornate loom]

wtf

[heady sphinx]

Reed does more damage then most casters

[ocean ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdFiJcVpEmg

[ornate loom]

bro

what is that hiroshima ass move

[astral cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/reed-arknights-reed-alter-gif-27248365

[heady sphinx]

shes actually the go to for IS 4 if you want an easy time

[ocean ether]

eh, nah

[astral cosmos]

eh, yeah

[ocean ether]

Thats for coping high difficulty stuff with fully built teams

[ornate loom]

my two favorite characters are

jessica alter

nearl alter

[ocean ether]

low difficulty with unbuilt teams, exalter carries better

though anything above D4 and exalter just drops

[astral cosmos]

yeah anything works on low diff anyway

[ocean ether]

which is why exalter gets to carry better

[ornate loom]

finally 400/400 chernobog

[astral cosmos]

too bad he folds like paper on champion 1v1

[ocean ether]

degen is out soon so exalter goes in the trash

[ornate loom]

is there a tutorial for abandoned mine with typhoon?

[ocean ether]

nope

just follow a low rairty guide and deploy her at that spot and she bascially kills everything

[ocean ether]

and have you done the 2 lungmen perm annih??

[ornate loom]

could u just briefly tell me where to place what

[ornate loom]

no

[ocean ether]

you need to 400/400 all 3

[ornate loom]

lungmen outskirts?

[ocean ether]

and then preferbly 400/400 the current annihilation, but that might be abit too much

[ocean ether]

yes, these two

[ornate loom]

can typhoon cheese that

[ocean ether]

they increase your weekly cap

[heady sphinx]

oof, you are going to have problems when you only have 2 e2lvl1 ops for an annihilation

[ornate loom]

*1

[ocean ether]

thats the typhon tile right?

you still need a puller to handle right side

[heady sphinx]

I'm including typhon

[ornate loom]

which of those two

[ocean ether]

the upper one

[ornate loom]

oki

facing

left

and a puller

below

[forest steppe]

Pulled La Pluma, any good?

[ornate loom]

cliffheart?

[ocean ether]

well, her archetype is good and she is one of the best 5 stars

[astral cosmos]

rope sl7 is enough

[forest steppe]

Woohoo

[ocean ether]

but unhealable unit is probably something new for you

[ornate loom]

dont have rope sl7 lol

[forest steppe]

Nah, I use Akafuyu

[ornate loom]

i have her skill on 1

[astral cosmos]

so how's the cliffheart

[ornate loom]

one too

[astral cosmos]

1 won't pull anything

4 will pull most except for the weebs iirc

[ocean ether]

then you in luck

[glass monolith]

If she doesn't die she doesn't die

[ornate loom]

so what do i use

[forest steppe]

Basedddd

[astral cosmos]

if you want a puller the best option here is to sl7 rope

[forest steppe]

Now I just need to farm her mats

[ornate loom]

isnt 4 enough tho?

[astral cosmos]

the weebs will not get pulled iirc

[ocean ether]

I think 4 was enough for annih 2?

[ornate loom]

ooh oki

oh

err

[glass monolith]

Well we have entire 1.5 day of freedom and then i will spend 2 weeks of IS farming rock

[astral cosmos]

is it? i fogor

[ocean ether]

gotta check kyo's video

[astral cosmos]

ye

been a while since i've done it

[heady sphinx]

rope lvl 4 is when pull strength increases

lvl 7 is when sp goes from 6 to 5

[ocean ether]

I dont think you need SL7 because thats a lvl 1 cliff LOL

[astral cosmos]

ah makes sense then

ye sl4 is enough

[ornate loom]

how do i do the blocking

rope below typhoo

[ocean ether]

rope goes on the pulling tile, then everyone else just block before typhon cant shoot

[ornate loom]

shaw above blue box

[ornate loom]

yeah i mean where do i block on the left side

[ocean ether]

like I said, the lane that typhon cant shoot

[ornate loom]

cant?

oh

like

gotcha

ty

[ornate loom]

so below this line

[astral cosmos]

ye

[ocean ether]

yep, that should cover everything

man looking at typhon's range in low annihilation is a big giant

[astral cosmos]

heh

times do change

[ocean ether]

that range is honestly very disgusting

[ornate loom]

and shaw will take the area below right?

[ocean ether]

nooooo

[ornate loom]

oh fuck rope is facing

wrong

💀

[ocean ether]

puller is facing right

also i think some people reported rope not being able to pull certain mobs once in awhile

so standby someone to block

[celest bluff]

Rerun have free pull?

[ornate loom]

shaw is still there

[celest bluff]

Damn

[astral cosmos]

yeah that's why I had sl7 ptsd. I remember struggling with this back then

even though it doesn't modify pull force it just feels like it works better

dunno why

[ocean ether]

oh btw, bring emergency blockers

[astral cosmos]

you never know

[ocean ether]

annihilation 2 has the katana guys who do alot of damage when low health

so your frontline will probably get smashed to bits since I dont think typhon one hits them

[astral cosmos]

top casters might also come melt your frontline without proper healing

so beware

[ornate loom]

e1 60 perfumer will heal up i hope

[glass monolith]

Pro tip - can't heal corpse

[ocean ether]

i am pretty sure the katana guys will just 1 hit flametail

though that honestly depends on whether they live through typhon's firing range

[ornate loom]

i replaced flametail

it was just for dp gain

not even close (all my defenders are dead)

but they didnt get through

[ocean ether]

anyways going to sleep, so just leaving this here for anni 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq4Qy94GukI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O96C3-CcrXo

[ornate loom]

tyy

[ocean ether]

that annih 3 video with typhon is pretty bad since its purely meta ops

[glass monolith]

There is no such thing as too much meta when touching grass anni 3

[narrow patrol]

I do recommend typhon for ani3 since for the most part she can easily cover top and mid lane

Your main problem@is there’s gonna be one crusher (big boi with hammer) that willl loop around from bottom then hit your midline from the rear and she cannot cover that

I kinda cheated since I had Mlynar so I had him on the bot lane positions to draw aggro from the drones so archetto had more time to murder em

Cuttter is positioned mainly to deal with the two jj leaders that spawn above her initially and nuke most@stuff headed her way… healers are required

[narrow patrol]

Note. All the lanes will have a crossbow on em at some point so you need two medics. One AoE for the lanes that wont be that pressured and ST for the ones that will get hit hard

Perfumer passive really helped weather the damage from the crossbows

[spice mortar]

I thought this one was fairly easy though

[narrow patrol]

Anni3 is mostly easy but 350 tends to be quite a jump up in difficulty

[spice mortar]

I did this when most where e1 with this team

Even at e2, not a lot of meta i think

Ya only sa mud and thorns were e2

I found my attempts of it too

I guess you just need a burst op like sa to deal with 350

[heady sphinx]

I mean if you have a besieger/aoe sniper, you should be able to handle it without the need to burst enemies down

[narrow patrol]

Two burst preferable

A besieger up top and a burst to cover bottom because the besieger up top won’t be able to reach one particular crusher headed to the bottom lane

[hot python]

Just started the game last week, this is my current lineup. I really want to use Texas, Lapland, Bison, and Kafka. Who else should I add? Trying to make it only 4 and 5 star characters until I get a few characters up to e2.

Btw, everyone but Texas here is e1, just got Texas this morning

[dapper hedge]

Go kroos instead of meteor

[hot python]

Why is that? Wouldn't having a 4* be better because I can e2 her?

[solid dew]

kroos is unironically very very good (for a 3*), and she is cheap to build

[hot python]

Ok, who would you recommend I e2 first?

[solid dew]

probably lappy or cuora depending on your mats situation (lappy prio)

[hot python]

Mats aren't exactly plentiful rn lol, since this is my first week

[solid dew]

figured as much, yea a 4* would probably be better as it wont cost everything lol
but lappy once you do have the mats definitely

[hot python]

Also, just wondering how bad my skill issue is, what stages should I be at by now to be considered on pace with my levelling?

[hot python]

Yeah ok, would it be worth it to e2 amiya later on or should I wait for a better caster?

[dapper hedge]

Your physical damage also kinda lacking rn. Switch around mousse w melantha when needed

[hot python]

Pardon me for sounding stupid but doesn't mousse do phys damage?

[dapper hedge]

No she does arts

[hot python]

If not, that's news to me lol

Oh

[solid dew]

i will say you do need amiya E2 for chapter 8 bosses (as in the game wont let you play without), but if you can get other casters like ejya or goldenglow, then them

tbf pretty much 6* aside from maybe ho'ol

[hot python]

Since I'll have a better hold on things by chapter 8, should I consider building ceobe? I got her randomly while pulling for lappy

[solid dew]

ceobe (when invested) is very good at dealing with high def because of her talents, so id say build her before amiya

[hot python]

Ok, I'm going to keep using amiya instead for now because it's considerably cheaper to level her, but once I get some more mats I'll work on it

Is Kafka a viable unit late game?

[solid dew]

kafka, thats the ambusher right?
nah not really

[scarlet mortar]

executor

[solid dew]

ah right
same as what i said applys

[hot python]

Using her s1 for group stun and quick redeploy

[summer copper]

kafka is good if u want to stall something
which is unlikely to encounter
also kafka at e0 is already very good

[scarlet mortar]

you can use her, she isn't great but imo it don't matter

[solid dew]

she does have the sleep niche tho, which can help with stalling enemys for a bit

yea what ^ said, and in early game doesnt really matter "too" much

[hot python]

Well imma use her for now, on stages with random swarms of slugs I like her because she can instant kill like 30 at once

[scarlet mortar]

if it's like one or two funny ops idt you should worry abt them being Literally Unusable

just keep her low prio or sth if you're stuck

[hot python]

Ok

I also got ayerscarp (pardon the possible misspelling), should I replace mousse with him?

Dang it autocorrect

[scarlet mortar]

not really no

low mixed damage, if it's between the two just use mousse for the arts

[summer copper]

mousse blocks 1 and deal art dmg
which is REALLY good as it can be used on some high defense unit while not having too much heal pressure since she only blocks 1

[hot python]

Ig I'll just build melanthea then

[solid dew]

something something "activate melantha skill"

[hot python]

What does it do? Never used her, but got her to p6 over time lol

[scarlet mortar]

makes big damage bigger

[summer copper]

one of the highest hp among even 6 stars

[hot python]

So basically a tank

[summer copper]

also her dmg is not bad

[scarlet mortar]

eh you don't usually want hp tanks, def/res generally helps you survive longer

[summer copper]

also melantha only block 1 so its really good

[scarlet mortar]

but yh she's one of the harder ops to kill for early chapters

[hot python]

Alright, so now my future lineup is looking like Texas, lappy, mousse, cuora, bison, Kroos, melanthea, amiya, ceobe, hibiscus/other healer, sussoro/other healer, and Kafka. How does that sound, anything else I should change in the near future?

[solid dew]

sounds pretty good, id definitly adjust depending on the stage/enemies, but you probably know that already

[hot python]

Yeah

Would I be considered having a skill issue at my current level for struggling to clear 4-4 and above?

[scarlet mortar]

oh 4-4 is the funny stage

[solid dew]

the kyo rant stage noway
for that one i pretty much funnled everything into one path with all my damage there (assuming medics can keep up)

[scarlet mortar]

you'll get used to roadblock stages eventually

[hot python]

Wdym by a roadblock stage

[scarlet mortar]

stages which uses roadblocks

[solid dew]

wait, are you telling me you arent using roadblocks

[scarlet mortar]

they're very particular bc roadblocks are extremely helpful if used correctly

[hot python]

First of all, do you mean stage specific tiles that do things or something on my team?

Oh wait

[solid dew]

you did the roadblock tutorial right,
theres those in 4-4 , to change enemy routes

[scarlet mortar]

did you notice the roadblocks that you got in your hand when you started the stage

[hot python]

Nvm, totally forgot what those were for a sec lol

My problem is getting overrun on my own defenses, and that's not the only stage I'm struggling with. The 4th battle record stage is giving me hell too lol

[scarlet mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6euvs2JFkW8

[hot python]

And on 4-4 specifically, the second exit is a problem because I can't get sufficient defenses there in time without leaving the main exit exposed

[hot python]

Wait wut

[scarlet mortar]

you'll get used to it

[solid dew]

arknights moment

[hot python]

Well, that's DEFINITELY not how I was placing mine lol, that setup might help a bit more

Also, what's with the drone symbol over the roadblock icon, do they actually use your drones up to deploy them?

[scarlet mortar]

probably

[solid dew]

just means deployable im pretty sure

[scarlet mortar]

funny asthetic detail, idt that's ever explained

[hot python]

Oh

Welp, time to put the rest of my drill plans to good use and try to win with a test run

Thanks all for the help

[hazy brook]

Suzuran mod X or wait for mod Y?, I hear that mod X was really good when paired with Virtuosa using s3 on both of them, is this true?

[hot python]

Aaaaaaand never mind apparently those stupid big guys on 4-4 keeps slamming my defenders to the ground, and I can't get casters deployed fast enough to break them down

Any tips, or is this simply me having a huge ass skill issue

[narrow patrol]

You want someone with slow on the lower route where the chunky bois come from and deploy a core caster alongside em like steward

So they stay there@longer and the core caster can murder em in short order. Ideally they NEVER get past that lane down below

The game gave you orchid earlier for a reason

[hot python]

Should I try to use the originium tiles as buffs?

[narrow patrol]

Wait 4-4 wait a sec

[hot python]

Has a crown slayer and 2 really annoying exit placements

[scarlet mortar]

the first and probs only roadblock trick you'll learn is that you can turn exits into dead ends

[hot python]

How so

[scarlet mortar]

most of the stage dies to those tiles so your only real concern is the loggers

[hot python]

Those are loggers?

[scarlet mortar]

the big guys

that's what they're called iirc

[hot python]

No, there are loggers but they aren't the problem

The horned crossbowmen

[scarlet mortar]

the crossbowmen also die to those tiles

[hot python]

Sarkaz nights I think? I don't remember the name

[scarlet mortar]

they'll kill your defenders though i'm sure

[hot python]

I must be doing my roadblocks wrong then, they are DEFINITELY not dying to them

Like, about half health by the time they get to my defenses

[worldly stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q0tKx6aHgs

[scarlet mortar]

was gonna send that

it's not a clear ftr, but it shows how practically only crownslayer makes it through

[hot python]

Wtf

How

[scarlet mortar]

that run leaks crownslayer

[hot python]

Yeah

Well, I guess I just condense the enemies to one lane on the right exit and make it hell for crown slayer to get through?

What about the loggers going to the left exit

[scarlet mortar]

see what happens at the end of the vid

[worldly stirrup]

Maybe not this one. But i remember a video where you can clear it without operator

[scarlet mortar]

you can't

puredark's vid also leaks

[worldly stirrup]

Really?

Huh

[scarlet mortar]

the lowest you can get for 4-4 is a durin solo

[hot python]

Well, I shouldn't have too much of a problem with one lane (I hope)

[scarlet mortar]

oh it was rose, not puredark

[hot python]

Also, why was lancet2 used specifically?

[scarlet mortar]

https://youtu.be/XJ5EuUEgdzY?t=116

[scarlet mortar]

to start the stage

you can't start with no ops

[sterile drum]

I have the 6* built e2 skalter/ling/virt have mastery

I was thinking ling but was told she kinda falls off?

[foggy grove]

i'll just save hope to draft better ops or core ops

[sterile drum]

I can do that?

Is it just the abandon thing

[foggy grove]

ye or pick 0 hope

like reserve ops or 3* if they are 0 hope

[sterile drum]

Okay👍

Only rosa, Schwartz, and archetto have e2 and some mastery. Idk how to pick other ppl ops if that is an option

I just know it was suggested no caster unless gg?

[summer copper]

caster can be used in is4

no caster in is3

[hollow epoch]

Is there an efficiency breakpoint in levelling 4star units, given a lot of em dont actually gain that much from e2?

Id assume the line is somewhere around e1

[bold lance]

If we are talking efficiency only, the line is to not level 4 stars

And if we were to drop that option, it's logical to invest more, not less. 4 stars are bad and require every bit of extra stat. But they are also cheap.

[hollow epoch]

Its mostly to use em for is

Which probably just means e1 max lvl then since im not going to e2 em

[limpid siren]

Nah

They’re not really worth drafting in IS currently

All they do is sap a bit of hope for a unit that doesn’t really contribute on average

[summer copper]

can't really agree with "4 star are not having much uses in is"

[limpid siren]

It’s almost always better to skimp and pick up a 6* than to dink your hope economy

[bold lance]

IS you use 3*

[limpid siren]

L take

making them work isn't the same thing as them being a good option

[latent monolith]

I've basically not drafted 4 stars for the most part since IS3 came out

When I went back to IS2 I wasn't really drafting 4 stars there either

[limpid siren]

Them being free to recruit next season will probably change things up

[smoky halo]

personally i think e2 cuora + mod is good for is4 if no hoshi jess or nian

but cuora is the only 4 star i draft

[halcyon adder]

Good morning

[soft crystal]

The only reason why you draft 4 stars in IS is tbh when your roster doesnt have the better versions in that role youre filling

Myrtle still kinda okay though but other than that yeah

[cosmic thicket]

imagine drafting myrtle when you can draft ines

sora will probably not do what you want her to do

amiya u can swap with steward (he's a 3*, but performs on a very comparable level at this point and u want him e1 anyway)

swap April for Kroos for similar reasons

[sly drift]

What if he just wants sora to dance and be emotional support

[hollow epoch]

I was under the impression there were a few 4*s that were pretty decent to draft due to multi role coverage, like may being cc plus sniper or podenco being cc plus healer somewhat

[high kettle]

anyone got fiammeta or chalter i can borrow rq to finish my anni backlog?

[peak cloak]

which annihilation u are doing?

[high kettle]

this is my backlog and the ops i gotta borrow

L Comm DIst - Chalter
Lingering SHangshu Trials - Fiammeta
Night Champion SHow - Thorns
Flooded Seashore - 394
The Special Little Aquapit - 394
South Prison
Research Base Hangar - Chalter
Chocolate Street - Chalter
Rest Ave - Mlynar

(yes 394 means i failed them at 394 at some point)

[peak cloak]

do u need help on strategies or just borrow support units?

[high kettle]

just borrow, ill follow a video ig

[peak cloak]

okay, i dont have Chen and Fia but i can set Ifrit and Blaze for few annihilations, do u need that?

[high kettle]

i got ifrit alr and blaze i have someone i think

thanks for the offer though

[peak cloak]

no problem, anyways

u know that with the searching tool of discord u can find the support units u want

in #friend-id

just in case it takes too long right here

[vocal leaf]

my chen and fia still e0
im saving mats for cc1, dunno if i would need to build someone else

[ornate loom]

how tf do u kill this

[vital arrow]

Stun it

[ocean ether]

stun or use kroos, I am assuming this is IS3

kroos (the 3 star one) should be able to kill them before you leak if she is fully upgraded

[ornate loom]

okii ty

[ocean ether]

Anyways, thoese mobs are "hovering" mobs which means they obey ground tiles, but cant be hit by most ground ops
After being immobilized by any status, e.g. stun / freeze / sleep, they loose hovering status and become targetable by ground ops.

For IS3, the ops ppl commonly use to deal with them are
bibeak, click, may, texalter, typhon, to a lesser extent kroos

kroos alter as well

[merry narwhal]

they have quite high def and do a lot of damage. Stuns really are the best way to deal with them

[high kettle]

sheit

fia e2 70 im borrowing dies

smh heal issue

[shut hazel]

@high kettle i have chalter if you want to borrow

[high kettle]

ive done the chalter stages already

thanks tho

[shut hazel]

Ok np

[rich nymph]

s3 fia fun as hell brain turn off

[high kettle]

true i just used her on the shangshu anni

though i was struggling to keep her alive, but some baits n pivot saria to s3 worked

[ocean ether]

Wouldnt typhon and ifrit be a better brain turn off? You still need to heal fia

[rich nymph]

typhon uglae daughter ifrit blast💔

i loev fier🤤

[tall sierra]

This guy is the true boss... Dmg is insane

[weak gazelle]

nah, really
when sexas & yato exists

:clueless:

[ocean ether]

not everyone has those lol

[high kettle]

shit jesselton p1 died when the casters werent in position for me to stun using device

[ocean ether]

I am seeing a perfect typhon tile LOL

[high kettle]

Oo thats true

[ocean ether]

correction, I am seeing two perfect typhon tiles

warfarin pos pointing right, or silence point up

honestly, it kind of looks like you can just deploy typhon facing right closer to the spawns and then just kill everyone before they even reach you

[spice mortar]

You could also just defend at blue boxes

Idk why ur all the way on the right

[ocean ether]

this looks like an attempt at copying kyo's guide?

[spice mortar]

Idk i didnt follow any guides

You just have a lot of coverage around blue boxes

[ocean ether]

kyo's guide had people blocking bottom though

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats irrelevant tbh

[ocean ether]

yea, that really looks like trying to follow kyo's guide without the units lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

Blue box camp also valid, doesnt mean someone copying vid

[glass monolith]

Becuase it is AFK clear, i don't care for clear which flex inability to press active skills more that 2 times per character

[high kettle]

i did

my units died bro

hoshi gummy

[ocean ether]

#strategy message ^ I think he is LOL

[high kettle]

cuz when i killed jesselton p1 the casters fucked me and i couldnt stun them yet

[ornate loom]

whats the easiest way to do Lungmen Downtown?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not that guy dude

[ocean ether]

I would say just borrow typhon

[glass monolith]

See this ball chains dude which clearly not covered by ton of attack effects?
If ball chain dude activate his skill from attacking you like 3 times you die

[scarlet fulcrum]

Literacy smh

[ocean ether]

team?

[ornate loom]

idk what annihilation to do, ive done chernobog and lungmen outskirts

[spice mortar]

This is what i did for this anni, mud gets moved up later

[ocean ether]

this looks like a "get archetto and flametail at least E1 first LOL

[ornate loom]

oki :D

isnt abandoned mine easy to cheese with typhoon?

[vivid rain]

abandoned mine? that stage is easy by itself

[ocean ether]

annihilation 3 is where new players get stopped, and theres no real 1 borrow solution without at least decent team.

Best I can point you to is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq4Qy94GukI

[ornate loom]

do you think i can do abandoned mine with that team? @ocean ether

[high kettle]

i will use yours -w-

[scarlet fulcrum]

Antagonizer and striker has weight, so yeah typhon also good

[ocean ether]

just borrow typhon LOL

[ornate loom]

@vivid rain how do you get those custom roles btw

[ornate loom]

ye i shall

[vivid rain]

lungmen downtown so ass newbs should honestly just borrow and clear it then move onto rotating

[weak gazelle]

the holy word
borrow

[vivid rain]

id:customize

[ocean ether]

deploy typhon here and she will bascially kill everyone on the right

[scarlet fulcrum]

Downtown now easily with typhon too, no need 2nd sniper

[ocean ether]

I havent tried downtown with typhon, where do you deploy her to cover both lanes?

[ornate loom]

alright ill try that

[scarlet fulcrum]

Upper mid

More like mid

[ocean ether]

can she hit the bottome drones?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ofc no

She carry mid and top

[ornate loom]

what else do i gotta place?

[ocean ether]

Then you will still need a 2nd sniper or caster lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

No lol

Why u need second aa?

[copper mortar]

Drones come at the bottom, right?

[ocean ether]

just do something like that

[ornate loom]

why is there a character facing a box XD

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah but u only need 1 aa

[ocean ether]

smashing box for civis to go through https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsqrCX01MtA

[ocean ether]

you are not making sense, she cant hit the drones below but then you say you dont need AA for them

[scarlet fulcrum]

I meant u only need 1 AA

Anti air = marksman

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp i already tried it and easily it works

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah 1 marksman there

[ocean ether]

then you litreally had an EN cant read moment

[copper mortar]

Oh ok you said Sniper so it was a bit confusing 😓

[scarlet fulcrum]

Lmao i already corrected on 2nd type and u still brought it

[copper mortar]

Mmkay

[ornate loom]

this is taking ages lmao

[ocean ether]

anyways @ornate loom, for lungmen downtown, your current units will have issues, will need at least archetto to be e1 and healing will be very painful

[ornate loom]

ty

[scarlet fulcrum]

I dont want to be elitist here, i just want to help newb

[ocean ether]

lappland alone isnt going to be able to lanehold, especially at e1 lol

[ornate loom]

brass will go there

[ocean ether]

you will need some DPS there as well