strategy

[spice mortar]

Mumu clones dont copy traits right

Would be op

[tidal sedge]

Wait I have mumu

Let me try

If Skalter summons work

Surely hers will

EW

Mumu I love you but like

Why

Where is the technology

[spice mortar]

No necrosis?

Rip

[tidal sedge]

Alright

Who can be a great partner

Would Dorothy's traps

Inherit the necrosus

I wonder

[spice mortar]

Have you tested swalters champagne?

[tidal sedge]

That's interesting

Look

Only the one that stepped on the mine

Took necrosis

The AOE did not apply necrosus

Let me get a better pic

[glass monolith]

Humusless gaming

[tidal sedge]

Oh I was wrong

Traps DON'T apply

Necrosis at all

[tidal sedge]

I am NOT

Uhhh what else

If I buff Spalter puppet

Will she do the same technology as Skalter pet

[glass monolith]

Oh i am not the only person bored enough to consider Virtuosa S2 buff on ally

[spark sinew]

reedic or archetto are the ones i saw being "hyped"

for gg or pass, why not just use say skalter or virt s3 though

[junior leaf]

Pyrolysis is soon coming around, I'm trying to see if I can get an 860 clear. However, I'm F2P and not year 1 player so pots on 6* units are not feasible. Looking for "pot-cheap" squads that might be able to clear. Currently this is the cheapest I could find, would be borrowing P6 Bagpipe and the rest would be self-supplied. My Ceobe is P2, Texalter P4, Ines/Eyja/Ifrit/Yato/Virtuosa P1. If anyone knows of any cheaper compositions I'd love to know, or even if my potentials are too low even for the video I'd be following.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1rb4y1K7Y6/

Team composition/pots at the last seconds of footage.

[glass monolith]

FUCKING ENDING 4 IN IS3

[spice mortar]

Hi

[spark sinew]

just plug the lanes

on d0 getting 0 leaks should be easy

[glass monolith]

squad size +4000, MoM buff on medic, FUCKING CAMO FOR RANGED RELIC DOESNT EXIST

[spark sinew]

why would you need camo

just draft 3 laneplugs

get like mlynar lin carne whatever

or get ng and hold the right middle

something like chalter is also good to slow the jellies while everyone is stunned

because the slow field persists

I'm honestly surprised how you clear fairly difficult event stages with the craziest shit i ever saw, but choke on IS

I'm pretty sure i can't do those boss stalls even if i tried, without significant time investment

[glass monolith]

Starting DP relic don't exist. Guard relics don't exist

Also i have 0 fucking idea which of sides spawn shit ton of jelly bind casters

Guard, caster, sniper vouchers don't exist too

[spark sinew]

you need no relics on d0

it's all in your draft

want some pointers?

[glass monolith]

I have no skill and fuck this game

No

Pointers is boring

[spark sinew]

i mean there's no need for skill either

why post here to rant then
suit yourself

[glass monolith]

because this chat is as dead as #cc-central and that one is fucking closed

[ornate loom]

if im not interested in skins can i use op to pull or is there a better use?

[glass monolith]

There is level gated package like every 5 levels (up to 60 or 70) which give you same amount of as if you just convert with materials on top

[tawny solar]

I’m too brain dead and can’t figure out how to do H9-6

Too many enemies and i don’t have enough crowd control

Is mostima the answer

Pls help

I have these ops

[radiant dune]

I feel ya lol, for me every time I feel like I’m doing good it just decides to nuke every operator on screen and I can never recover, I prolly should read boss desc sometime

[turbid badge]

Blue poison fart dart

[cyan gorge]

Borrow Chalter and funnel everything into her range

[tawny solar]

k

[soft crystal]

It just outstats you really without the ending specific relic

[spark sinew]

reading his kit would help tremendously tbh

it should be trivial, assuming somewhat built roster

[soft crystal]

I think reading the kit still doesnt help the fact that you can get an ending specific relic that makes your operators survive the nukes though

I didnt know that actually existed

[spark sinew]

you can just never let him nuke you

[soft crystal]

Too hard

Its just a really hard boss even knowing it

[spark sinew]

killing enemies is too hard?

[soft crystal]

Yes?

Those jellies are real tanky

[spark sinew]

...you're supposed to block them

[soft crystal]

And theres too many to block to make a dent

[spark sinew]

you technically just need block 1 and some good dps, but obviously in practice you just put block2/3 units

[soft crystal]

Some of the enemies that spawn from the jellies are also sometimes strong too

[spark sinew]

enemies die from your sneeze on d0

they're mostly scaled by power depending on wave

outside of the jellies in the middle (which you won't generally block anyway)

[soft crystal]

I only did izumik on d10

[glass monolith]

Elite freeze spider, bind caster, fucking shieldguard enemy...

[soft crystal]

[turbid badge]

hayck become green name

Show us u ways

[spark sinew]

bot left is mostly boxers, top right is some scary shit later on, like frost spiders and demolitionists

[turbid badge]

private hauckdoniu

[spark sinew]

well those guys do d0

i never did izumik outside of d0 and d15

and on d0 you just block the jellies

they just never reach the boss

[turbid badge]

Hauckindu u ever did weedy strat

succesfully

[spark sinew]

remove your last message

so i can say yes

weedy strat is pretty ass investment wise

also turns out i wouldn't be able to do it anyway cause apparently ptilo needed mod3

weedy also needs mod3

[glass monolith]

oof

[spark sinew]

and then the timing is ridiculously small as well, and you also need to retreat weedy in time to sync the canon+weedy push

the most bs and easiest one is probably this on d15

just need one of the two possible relics although i think with 41 hp i could do it without redeploy relics

[turbid badge]

The dragon strat

[stable igloo]

Is there places to farm for credit or is it the norm to be always poor guys? i feel like i'm always low on credit

[radiant dune]

I've only tried the ed4 boss at difficulty 10+ im pretty sure and got the relic that actively debuffs me every time lol

idk if theres a trigger to not the get -1 block thing but I have yet to see any of the other ones I've looked up

[spark sinew]

you need high light

[neat skiff]

Pretty much always poor with a burst of credits from the constant events.

[radiant dune]

wait doesn't the relic u get to direct u to the ending literally bring you to 0 light

[wide sail]

stick gives u 15 light per fight

[neat skiff]

Your base typically gives you slightly more LMD than exp so even with constant levelling of ops you will slowly gain credits for a promotion or resource crafting spree.

[radiant dune]

what is this stick you speak of

[wide sail]

caerula arbor or something gives all enemy 15 aspd and all ally -15 aspd and gives 15 light for perfect clear

from encounter

i might have these numbers wrong i havent done ed4 in ages

[radiant dune]

ngl I don't think I've seen that collectible before

is that just like a get lucky encounter type deal

[wide sail]

basically

[radiant dune]

damn ight, next time I try ed4 I'll spam some more encounters after I pick up the -100 light thing

[soft crystal]

Yep

[spark sinew]

encounters do make you weaker though

might be worth on early f3, but after that i would give up and just max combats

[vocal leaf]

s stages time

[flat sapphire]

Wouldn't it be better to do combat early and encounters later? Or do u get more exp on later floors or something?

[proud dune]

Any advice for the last stage of this event, I’ve gotten so far but that final ZT-S-5 challenge mode

[noble pewter]

How boss teleport work? Always target last 2 unit or what

[proud dune]

I’ve heard it’s the last two

[unkempt lintel]

Aways target last two deployed

Unless the ops have higher taunt or have that seal thingy they will be teleported instead

[surreal star]

@rough sigil can you send a screenshot of your actual placement here

[rough sigil]

Ughhh lemme try I guess?

[rough sigil]

How do people make those placement charts.

[surreal star]

https://map.ark-nights.com/map

[rough sigil]

I hate the fucking running lance guys so much

I have been banging my head against this stage for hours

But here you go @surreal star

[somber stone]

Why no chongyue

[rough sigil]

I don't know where to place him to get value

[surreal star]

amiya should be one to the left

ng where purestream is, facing up

[unkempt lintel]

Hmmm it seems ur too over reliant with ur frd

U know u can drop one medic and change it to one laneholder....

Also u have chong use him

[surreal star]

you can put purestream to the right of silence facing left if you deploy her early

or just be consistent with baiting

[rough sigil]

I'm already getting overwhelmed with trying to block/kill the regular enemies

[surreal star]

where are you placing yato/texas

[heady hedge]

ngl

literally just do this

[surreal star]

cuora should be in the tile to the left of silence btw

[heady hedge]

and the stage is free

also switch out cuora for specter

idk why ur using e1 50 cuora and not ur e2 specter

[surreal star]

you can use virtuosa if you want to debuff talu

[rough sigil]

The Texas I am using S3 right infront of Jessica to clear adds

[rough sigil]

Her S1 dose that right?

[surreal star]

yes

[rough sigil]

Alright lemme do another run

[candid beacon]

do y'all have any like tips on ZT-S-5

I'm thinking of killing WK on like right off the bat

[rough sigil]

Tried it again phase 2 killed all my ops

[surreal star]

are you baiting properly

[rough sigil]

What am I baiting? The brands?

[surreal star]

yes

[rough sigil]

I guess not?

[surreal star]

just place texas and yato on cooldown to the left side

or right side if you want to kill the blooms

[rough sigil]

How fast do the brands come out

[surreal star]

20 seconds iirc?

i’d say it’s a bit easier to see them if you don’t use texas skin

[rough sigil]

Okay. I'll give it one more try but man I don't think I wanna do that kinda micro before bed. I'll probably just save this stage for later

[surreal star]

btw if you’re using purestream there put her facing down

[pale orchid]

whats the part thats getting you? ur squad seems plenty powerful enough

[rough sigil]

Already kinda stressed I don't wanna fuck up a 10 min due to me messing up a bait

[surreal star]

or just use warf and put purestream on the right tile

[rough sigil]

I guess I am just not using boss mechanics

Was trying to burn her down but she's way to tanky

[heady hedge]

you dont even need to bait with ng

[pale orchid]

you only need to bait 1 no? and then have the other not be next to another op

[rough sigil]

I don't fully understand the mechanics of the brands. I know they hit the last two units you drop

[surreal star]

place texas and yato off cooldown and retreat as soon as you see them ignite

[pale orchid]

they also spread out in a cross pattern

whenever tal ignites them

[rough sigil]

Yeah, I feel like if I let even one of the phase 2 brands pop it will kill my whole squad in the mid

Due to the spread

[pale orchid]

thats why you want ur bait op to not be right next to another, so it doesnt spread

its not too hard since you only need to have 1 tank, the other u can bait with a frd

[rough sigil]

I think I was doing it right by my medic near the back was eating brands

And I dont think they can out heal it

They weren't spreading or anything

[surreal star]

either place that medic earlier so they don’t bait it or use two frds for bait

[pale orchid]

thats was part of the reason i brought uh lumen to the stage

since he can cleanse up to 2 brand with s2

[rough sigil]

I gotta bring NG saddly. Lumen ain't gonna be RR for a long while yet

Or else I would be using him

[pale orchid]

if possible id fit in 1 more flag

getting a quick start to the stage is super helpful

oh wait u already have 2 flag

u should be fine dp wise then?

[rough sigil]

I did but I dropped Ely for Vitrousa

For help during the boss

[surreal star]

you can drop silence

there’s not enough ranged tiles

[pale orchid]

can i see ur full roster of ops

just curious if virt is the best option here

[lusty basin]

s-3 mob pathing shines an ugly light on how unintuitive hitboxes are in this game

game really not built to handle 45 degree angles

[rough sigil]

@pale orchid

Here you go

[fading wagon]

does anyone here know a way to to beat zt-s-3, my units are pretty cooked (in a bad way i mean)

[lusty basin]

also funny enough my initial impression was that teleportation is an anti-mlynar mech, but with very frequent teleportations mlynar becomes better bait than FRDs

[rough sigil]

Alright I give up.

[pale orchid]

Should be very doable, I messed up a ton

[spark sinew]

yeah you want Arbor asap(and it's an encounter)
otherwise encounters are kinda whatever, with some major highrolls (Wavebreaker one) being quite better than a combat

[ocean ether]

borrow ling, try and see if you can follow this low rarity guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJslgE9_jCQ

[rancid grotto]

Zt-S-3 wtf is that map

[ocean ether]

While mixing in your own units of course

[ocean ether]

see above video lol

You have exia, so you should be able to do alot of damage to the boss if you need some extra dps, just need to take note of skill activation time

[fading wagon]

thanks imma try it and let you know if I suceed

[ocean ether]

the main carries in that vid are ling (borrow it) and silverash (you have it at E2) so if you try hard enough and sub in some extra units, should be clearable .

Maybe need to raise SA's level alittle / masteries

[fading wagon]

yeah gonna go make SA level 60 rn

[ocean ether]

s-4 dosent have boss so you should be able to clear that, virtuosa hard carries that stage

[fading wagon]

Yeah i just wantt to get the badge tbh

[ocean ether]

which?

[fading wagon]

i mean all of the event badge, I'm missing 2 more

[ocean ether]

I dont think you can clear S-5

[fading wagon]

oof rip

[ocean ether]

and you definelty cant clear S-5 challenge

the challenge was very painful lol

[fading wagon]

regret not pulling mlynar lol

[ocean ether]

are the selector tickets still in store?

[fading wagon]

too expensive for me

[ocean ether]

mlynar isnt too useful for this stage anyways

because of his argo attract, boss will 100% teleport mlynar

[cyan gorge]

Mlynar did nothing in my S-3 attempts, so I swapped him with Silverash and won

[ocean ether]

same

I had a moment and was wondering why boss was teleporting 3 operators when mlynar got teleported

[cyan gorge]

Ngl I didn't know wtf I was doing

just tossed frd + NTRK s2 at everything hoping they'd be teleported instead of my medics

[ocean ether]

I toss surtr, and the teleport... resets her skill

[cosmic thicket]

how often does boss teleport in S-3

[cyan gorge]

I think every 1/3 hp

[celest bluff]

This is just like the Monster hunt collab

[ocean ether]

eh, which teleport you mean? The boss teleporting around the map? Or teleporting your ops

[cosmic thicket]

ur ops

[ocean ether]

teleporting your ops is % hp based, teleporting around map is time

[cosmic thicket]

condition says it teleports ops more often but how much more often

[celest bluff]

I think the boss used the same code as the gadget in MH collab

[ocean ether]

no it dosent lol

[cyan gorge]

Either every 33% or 25%, I lost count

[civic bear]

-10% p1 -20% p2

[cosmic thicket]

oh ty

[civic bear]

oh s3 condition doesnt change tho

[ocean ether]

just put two frd when you are about to burst the boss down and ignore how often it teleports

[high kettle]

holy complicated ok i will try

[sterile drum]

the way ive beaten zts3 twice on pratice but failed every time when it actually mattered and now im here

[ocean ether]

what are you doing wrong or dont know?

[ocean ether]

If you can follow a high rarity /afk guide, do that instead lol

[high kettle]

nah i dont have them, i'll try this

[sterile drum]

i dont know, tbh im blaming rng

[high kettle]

i fucked up by killing him too early

i mean phase 1

[ocean ether]

your squad and deployments? Are you following a video (and moifying to your layout) That dosent really tell us anything

[sterile drum]

no ive been yolo it

in thorns aak i trust

I did copy that one person silverash + saria placement but saria got tp and died lol

[last scarab]

Do y'all think Mudrock could handle the 2nd phase here or should I use someone else?

[ocean ether]

kyo's video uses mudrock

[high kettle]

wow i did it

now for cm

[ocean ether]

gratz and gl lol

ethan with S1 seems to be very good for this event for hitting statues and the stupid ball thing

[high kettle]

its hard to judge boss hp

if its 75% or not

or stuff like tht

[ocean ether]

just burst down in one cycle

[rancid grotto]

Only CM Zt-S-5 remains

[ocean ether]

lol, good luck with that. I failed 4 times after my successful practice

[pallid bone]

Use the cannon for ZT-S-5

exu S3 bursting the cannon deals pretty big dmg

[high kettle]

ok idfk wat im doing wrong in cm

[ocean ether]

shouldnt it be similar to normal?

S-3 right?

[high kettle]

ya im just messing up i think

[ocean ether]

which part is messing up? Teleporting?

[high kettle]

last time

my baits died

[ocean ether]

its always last two ops deployed, unless you have someone like mlynar

[high kettle]

then can only deploy 1 more bait

think castle died

[ocean ether]

use a stronger bait lol

[high kettle]

castle ignores deploy limit

[ocean ether]

Yea but castle dies easily

if you really want to, put lancet somewhere enemies cant hit it

[high kettle]

if no castle others get tp'd

[ocean ether]

are you using all the deploy slots?

[high kettle]

yeah

well

im following the guide u sent

wdym

[ocean ether]

oh the low rarity one

Then you just gotta chalk it up to bad timing / RNG

are there any higher rarity ops you can replace on the low rarity guide?

[high kettle]

nvm killed the boss now

ya

i think rng put castle n gravel close so they ded

[ocean ether]

yea, probably just the RNG since you are running low rarity and this boss has RNG teleport

[high kettle]

wait

uh

IM NOT AT CM

WTF

[ocean ether]

LOL

[high kettle]

XD

mfw

[ocean ether]

20 sanity gone. KEK

[high kettle]

issok refund

i cba

alright

done it

[ocean ether]

GJ, S-4 is easy, just borrow virtuosa lol

S-5... good luck

[high kettle]

oh no

whats on s 5

[ocean ether]

boss again, except harder

[high kettle]

fml

ima eat first

enough malding for now

[ocean ether]

S-4 is just... place virtuosa facing up here and she will hard carry you

[void terrace]

Wait

Can Dorothy mines

Bait the witch kings teleport

[south bone]

S-4 is also Mlynar: The Stage

[south bone]

he'll teleport the ops who placed the summon/traps anyway (if they're the last 2 deployed)

[void terrace]

Yeah

If the traps were last deployed tho

I notice muelse's main clone counts

[radiant dune]

Horn also does work on that stage

[ocean ether]

Alright lets change it, S4 is just anything works

[radiant dune]

Yeah fair lol

[sterile drum]

Where should I place thorns/ aak in s-5, would in the middle be better (been tryna it rn but thorns keeps dying) or on the right side with aak in the corner

[radiant dune]

When the enemies stand still for 90% of the stage not much doesn’t

[ocean ether]

send squad

[sterile drum]

I usually have ifirt in most right corner tho with saria

Im having dp issue so thats why 3 vanguard

[ocean ether]

eh.... wat

[sterile drum]

😅 this kinda what I've been using to get through this event other than reed alter I just finish building her

[ocean ether]

I dont think aak is a very good idea lol

[sterile drum]

I use Aak thorns for the shooting lazor thing

[ocean ether]

thorns either in front of top most blue box facing down or the first row of the 2nd box

[ocean ether]

wouldnt it be better to just use another range? Or ethan?

[sterile drum]

My Ethan isn't built

[ocean ether]

Dosent need to be

just SL7 and S1 will do

[sterile drum]

Well ig I can just beat the stage then figure out an aak thorn strat

[rancid grotto]

CM S5, i hate this stage
Why is Boss tp so fast
Cannot kill phase 1

[ocean ether]

Now you know why I failed 4x after my practice success

[radiant dune]

Is s5 bad, haven’t tried it yet but people seem to be annoyed lol

[ocean ether]

S5 isnt that bad, S5CM is horrible

[rancid grotto]

S5 was ez first try

[radiant dune]

Prayin yalter will carry my ass but I doubt it huh

[ocean ether]

you need alot of ASPD stuff, or someone like ethan who stacks DoT

[sterile drum]

I can't do this since I don't have e1

[ocean ether]

you have aak E2 lvl 90, but not ethan E1?

[sterile drum]

I don't really build not 6* stuff

My amiya is still e1

[ocean ether]

do you have exuia

[sterile drum]

Not built

[ocean ether]

[sterile drum]

My only built sniper is sora

[ocean ether]

blaze?

[sterile drum]

Not built

[rancid grotto]

If i cannot kill boss, before he tp to top right i'm done

[ocean ether]

. . .

Why do you have so many lvl 90s but so many not built characters...

[sterile drum]

I like using the op i like

[ocean ether]

fair enough

[sterile drum]

Which is why my main type lacks any sniper or defenders

[ocean ether]

anyways, you can try something like thishttps://youtu.be/9Wc65YMJXx0?si=BQoGuBOGrG6teVAZ&t=181

replace ethan with silverash

exuia with ifrit i guess

... do you have mudrock? Or mountain?

[sterile drum]

No

I have ling?

[smoky halo]

he explode and deduc hp after 5minutes

[ocean ether]

then you will need to find someone who can sub in for either mudrock or mountain

[smoky halo]

is this s5-cm?

[sterile drum]

Yeah

[smoky halo]

do you have execalter?

[ocean ether]

mountain has no issues being in mudrock's place, though you might want to slap the ball AFTER the boss to help kill mobs

[sterile drum]

No

[smoky halo]

borrow one then and copy this ig
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1db4y1M77U/

[sterile drum]

I have virtarosa?

[ocean ether]

I dont think she is going to help here

[sterile drum]

Ah heck

[ocean ether]

you have exuia, blaze and ethan unraised, so thats on you.

[high kettle]

borrow virtuosa? not mlynar?

[sterile drum]

Do I need an acc for this?

[ocean ether]

just borrow anyone lol, S-4 is easy

[ocean ether]

Its ling + exalter

[high kettle]

i used a vpn, japan worked

[sterile drum]

I'm gonna blame the ppl in #help since they told me I don't need to

[ocean ether]

and no, dont need

[sterile drum]

They told me to ignore them and just build reed alter and pozy

[ocean ether]

help has so much mis-info... just the fact they tell you silverash and thorns are TRASH and unusable now should tell you something...

[high kettle]

blaze is just like a staple, but not that good

[smoky halo]

no just press the X button

when it asks u to sign up

[ocean ether]

being powercrept dosent make an operator trash

[high kettle]

yeah

help has recency bias

[smoky halo]

wym blaze is bad compared to other laneholders

[fallen terrace]

But what is with Vigil?

[smoky halo]

look at exec and zuole

[high kettle]

anyw ima do s 4

[ocean ether]

you cant be powercrept if you had no power in the first place - vigil

[sterile drum]

There no space for them in my squad anyway

[fallen terrace]

Makes sense

[sterile drum]

Aak doesn't get benched 😔 ✊

[high kettle]

that creature's just weird

[ocean ether]

lets wait 6 months and everyone will say chenalter / typhon / ray is useless now because walter will completely powercreep them all

[rancid grotto]

Okay, let bring healers to survive top right and kill phase 1 at 23 kill count
I hope this works

[high kettle]

actually this event is kinda easier to follow guides on

cuz of a timer bar for reference

[ocean ether]

the boss is just knowing mechanics, and praying to RNG your teleported ops dont die while you are bursting boss down

[sterile drum]

I found out if the bar run out you uhh lose

[ocean ether]

one of my failed runs had texalter getting slapped with instant death and then everything went to hell after that

[glass monolith]

Boss which don't move has insta kill timer?

Never before and here we go again

I find it funny that enemy info still show him as "leak damage - 2 seal" when he physically can't leak and does skill which based on PRTS do 100 seal damage

[ocean ether]

cm is painful because boss ends your run in a much faster time

and also teleports faster so much shorter window to DPS

[sterile drum]

Wow idk why I built ling, I do not have the brain to be following this strat

[high kettle]

countermeasure for next 2 years seal stacker operator

[ocean ether]

then you should have built blaze and eyjalter for braindead strats

[sterile drum]

I didn't own those guys

[ocean ether]

you said you own blaze

[sterile drum]

I do own but after built ling

[high kettle]

oh shi btw wat skill, im borrowing s1? ithink

[spark sinew]

typhon was like that on release

[high kettle]

only one i have

[ocean ether]

S3

just borrow mlynar instead and follow a guide, will probably be more brain dead

[high kettle]

true

[ocean ether]

typhon still good for AFK, like for me with button allergy

but pretty sure walter and her turrets powercreeps even that AFK

[sterile drum]

For this, would it be better if I'm friends with the execalter

Person who has it

[ocean ether]

oh? there is a video with virtuosa for S-5-CM

gonna watch it lol

nvm

[spark sinew]

always

[radiant dune]

Only cm I haven’t done are 3 and 5, witch king actually such an annoying boss

[spark sinew]

non friends are restricted to sl7

so in 99% cases the strat won't work at all

(you can compensate for that usually, but you get the idea)

[radiant dune]

For the mark and teleport I assume both attack recently deployed yeah? Sometimes I swear he places it randomly ignoring who I last placed

[sterile drum]

Ah okay, I'll bring other op to this strat since I'm bad at timing 😅

[spark sinew]

are you using taunt

[ocean ether]

mark is within range

[radiant dune]

Y know that might explain it

[spark sinew]

always a good call, ye

[radiant dune]

Ah yup it says within his attack range I’m illiterate

[ocean ether]

if operator gets marked, they bascially get mlynar's argo attract, so if operator gets marked and boss hp goes down without mark destroyed, that op gets teleported

and of course theres the very bad decision of bringing mlynar to the boss fight where he 100% gets teleported

[radiant dune]

Ngl I’ve been getting carried by the fact that placing Texas and yato before a tp threshold just teleports them if there’s no marks up

[ocean ether]

theres also the super meme strat of placing surtr to intentionally be teleported, because it resets her skill and if I am not wrong, her HP as well.

Honestly, a terrible idea to try, but you never know, RNG might bless you.

[south bone]

Surtr facing a wall after got teleported

[high kettle]

guess theres no low op s 5 cm

[ocean ether]

the lowest is 2 6 star operators

[high kettle]

who

[ocean ether]

theres the one with exalter and ling, and another with mlynar and someone else I forgot

[high kettle]

ripperoni dont have any

[ocean ether]

oh, exalter and mlynar

https://youtu.be/O3X96SID7BQ?si=Nz1BFMS-u5x3c2gb&t=6

[high kettle]

ye

gg for me ig or i can somehow sub it with my whole squad

[ocean ether]

whats your squad

[high kettle]

can u sub mlynar with sa

lol

[ocean ether]

yes

[spark sinew]

low rarity squad lmao

[ocean ether]

in fact, mlynar is a bad idea because he gets 100% teleport

[high kettle]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/Shinsha

[ocean ether]

oh? I think you can clear lol

you can definetly clear..

[high kettle]

cm?

[ocean ether]

yes

[high kettle]

ayt ill try the normal one first

following exalter mlynar ig?

[ocean ether]

nope

[high kettle]

n i sub out mlynar with sa

eh how

[ocean ether]

saria and kal positon, exia on virtuosa

then follow something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wc65YMJXx0

ethan replace with SA

[high kettle]

i borrow thorns or mountain

[ocean ether]

if you have mudrock, place mud on saria pos will be easier

you will need another healer

[high kettle]

sa s1?

[ocean ether]

obviously its s3...

[high kettle]

im wondering why not mizuki

[ocean ether]

eh, the reason ppl use ethan is because his S1 does DoT on the ball

which counts as an attack, which makes the turret shoot more

mizuki dosent do that LOL

[high kettle]

kk

face up sa s3 then

?

[ocean ether]

face left

up can be soloed by kal

you will have a very big healing issue though

[high kettle]

pray silence drone follow thru

[ocean ether]

doubtful

could always try borrow eyjalter

[ocean ether]

Anyways, this screenshot is from this video https://youtu.be/N6n57OR_PxU?si=YCj_5Jyh283Pa3ye&t=282
Though he uses FRD to do the turret

[high kettle]

i'll take exu's timing here then

[ocean ether]

Yep, just watch a couple of videos and see how people do it and then combine the strats, should be doable with your team (though might need more healer)

[high kettle]

lol

[terse sierra]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV17u411F7DF?p=6&vd_source=375aad7d9afd22ae515a7b0f4feb4f7b there is an s5 CM single core but it will probably require more brain power than clearing it with your ops

[ocean ether]

If you borrowing eyjalter, you dont need so many lol.

Eyjalter is worth 2 - 3 healers

Did anyone confirm if Dorothy's mines get teleported?

[vocal leaf]

summon shouldn’t get tp, phatom clone can’t for example

having fun with my boys so far

[ocean ether]

Husbando team?

[spark sinew]

s-3 is so much harder than s-4 it's not funny

[rancid grotto]

It's over, lucky clear
Gravel save me

[high kettle]

hold on

does eyjalter skill matter

[spark sinew]

as long as it's not s2

s1 and s3 have their uses

[rancid grotto]

Virtuosa help me a lot to kill boss

[spark sinew]

inb4 you're asking about specific clear

man i'm disliking reedic in this event

[ocean ether]

Preferbly s1 so less micromanaging

And honestly, i have never had a single situation where I did go "should have taken eyjalter s3 instead of s1".

Never

[spark sinew]

had plenty of those
hps is insane and range is fine because of that

[high kettle]

my mon3ter keeps like

dying

lv and mod diff

?

[ocean ether]

No mod?

[high kettle]

ye lol

no trust yet

[ocean ether]

Yea then probably

10 levels dosent make any difference

[high kettle]

shes like 97%

[ocean ether]

Could always put mudrock on top instead

And saria below

[high kettle]

ight i try that

mud+monster top?

[ocean ether]

No need monstr in that case. I think

Give it a try

Top just needs to handle the mobs. But they do quite a fair bit of damage

Also, something you might not be doing.

The 2nd purple tune needs to be inverted or else your frontline gets fked. (Thoese guys in the middle at that time do alot of dmg + stun if yellow)

[high kettle]

mfw i pressed the tune instead of eyja

[radiant dune]

How do y’all deal with witch king teleporting to the right side, I place my healers there and if I get unlucky he just jumps there and deletes them and idk what to do

[ocean ether]

Just use s1 and then forget about her

[high kettle]

one im borrowing is on s3

[spark sinew]

my healers just tank

[radiant dune]

My healers are slightly underleveled ig, only one is e2

[ocean ether]

I used eyjalter. She outheals all the dmg for entire team

[ocean ether]

I think most of us squeezed the healers and range DPS on the top tiles

[fallen terrace]

Is Litch king attack Arts? Is Nightingale S3 good Vs it?

[ocean ether]

yes and yes

[spark sinew]

what a useless condition

i wish they told you the cm buffs

there's no way to know...

[ocean ether]

it bascially means he will nuke the entire stage faster and give you a much smaller window to DPS

[spark sinew]

sure but the condition seems easy

so the main problem is probably CM stat buff

which you can't find out in game

at all

[high kettle]

hm

i must be messing up exusiai's timing

but i placed her same time

[ocean ether]

If it was easy, we wouldnt hate the stage

[high kettle]

is it because of seal? i cleared it, am i not supposed to?

oyuki had thorns to clear it no

[ocean ether]

use ethan if lacking ASPD

[spark sinew]

and that's because of stat buffs, sure

i already feel it, vanguards dying from autos

[high kettle]

does skalter change sp gain

on the dps period, my exu activate earlier than oyuki's

[ocean ether]

no

[elder flume]

Warf

[high kettle]

no the timing just looked so off

on oyuki, boss tp's in, exu activates

[ocean ether]

nah its warf

[high kettle]

mine activates long before

i dont have warf

on the squad anyway

[ocean ether]

not this? ^

[high kettle]

no im not using warf

[elder flume]

Its either Warf or Saria or a tiny man feeding her from behind 🤷‍♂️

[ocean ether]

I dont think he has saria module... does he?

[high kettle]

no saria module

[ocean ether]

oh wait, dosent need module

its saria then

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is there any link for vid? Just curious

[ocean ether]

^

[high kettle]

saria aint even in range to heal tho

[fallen terrace]

Finished it but on practice

[ocean ether]

Have fun, I failed 4x after my practice because of RNG

[high kettle]

maybe i just deploy too early

[scarlet fulcrum]

Must be timing or sp feeder. assuming mastery same

[ocean ether]

You could always go by looking at exuia skill bar instead of the timer, since its mainly about deployment of the ball to nuke the boss

but then again, turret position might be wrong

[high kettle]

still was a bit too early, but sa managed to trigger p2

[ocean ether]

just saying, but SA wont have enough time to get skill up for p2 before boss nukes

in CM at the least

[high kettle]

yea my exu definitely isnt synced with the turret

yea idk the timing is so weird lol

[fallen terrace]

Failed Twice due to rng

[ocean ether]

better than me lol

I had one run texalter instantly died after teleport, and I do all my DPS in one cycle so everything got fked after

[fallen terrace]

Nightingale make my operators survive

[ocean ether]

I also had one run surtr got teleported... and was pointing directly at boss with her skill and hp reset

[fallen terrace]

Lol

[high kettle]

also leaked somehow later on p2 with alot of mobs coming in

idk where it leaked

i think saria

[ocean ether]

before or after you kill the boss?

[high kettle]

i couldnt kill the boss

cause the turret was so unsynced with exu

[ocean ether]

might want to try burning a few practices and removing certain operators and see who is the culprit

[high kettle]

does w hitting the boss a bit change boss' tp time

no right

[ocean ether]

wait

are you looking at a CM video?

while doing normal?

[high kettle]

uh

yea

[ocean ether]

because the teleport timing is completely different

[high kettle]

mfw

[ocean ether]

HAHAHAHA

[high kettle]

istg

[ocean ether]

[high kettle]

oyuki advertised this as normal/challenge

ive been scammed

[ocean ether]

look at kyo's afk video instead, he has 2

https://youtu.be/WMNQMyV6d_A?si=yxoY3n_nq-BnwDYJ&t=1090

[high kettle]

oh

yeah

completely different exu timing

ok

gg

i spent like an hr tryna figure out

mfw

[ocean ether]

[high kettle]

wtf exu died

i think reflect

[ocean ether]

I am assuming died around 19:23?

[high kettle]

no i was like still placing ops

[ocean ether]

if you follow kyo's guide without using nightingale, the boss will target exuia

[high kettle]

i had other stuff placed

not like kyo

like myrtle blow n noir corne bait

i need to borrow eyjalter s1

[ocean ether]

should be reflection damage then

[high kettle]

she died when eyjalter s3 ran out cuz i was using it to bait more from noir corne

and keep myrtle alive

[ocean ether]

use S1 instead

[high kettle]

trying to get one

[small anchor]

Wrong channel nvm

[ocean ether]

lol just add me then... Klipwc#5911

[high kettle]

okay

sent

btw how does boss attack target when hes on top right

perfumer keeps dyign even when i deploy saria last

[ocean ether]

within range

in p1

[high kettle]

dang

range is 3x3 around him?

[ocean ether]

not too sure, but I believe its this

[high kettle]

yea HAHA she kills herself on s3

[ocean ether]

you can either break the shields first, or grab someone with nightingale and pray you have enough healing

or you can deploy exuia later at 20:03 instead

should be about the same

[high kettle]

20:03?

yea kyo's timing relies on skalter

[ocean ether]

bascially at kyo's video 2nd skill use

[high kettle]

ah

[ocean ether]

eyjalter's skill isnt up yet right? How fast does exuia kill herself?

[high kettle]

very fast

[ocean ether]

I did my clear without exuia

[ocean ether]

you can try looking at oyuki's video and skiping to https://youtu.be/9Wc65YMJXx0?si=FJ1YlUB5muJIU5Jt&t=422

he does have a normal mode section

[high kettle]

mfw

o well

also ye she still kills herself even with eyjalter s1 active

[ocean ether]

could always turn off their shields since boss still on P1

[spice gust]

[high kettle]

i just dont kill him p2

maybe ethan

does his level not matter?

i got him e0 45 sl4 lol

[ocean ether]

I think need E1 sl7

ok practice refreshed, I can try other squads now lol

[high kettle]

fine i'll raise him

[ocean ether]

whelp no one has an exuia borrow for me to test

[cursive sail]

Does using both original and alter version of an operator significantly increases the operator's trust?

[high kettle]

i can set mine up

[ocean ether]

yes, if both in same squad and in base

[high kettle]

mald together with me

set

fuc

leaked

ya i cant kill the p2 in one go like oyuki

[ocean ether]

eh here

lol file is too big

sec

[ocean ether]

anyways https://youtu.be/mckQHgaMcHE
with this squad +exuia
Video still uploading so you can just wait it out. Off for dinner lol
Just pretend my blaze and mountain is your saria and mudrock because I dont have them

there was abit of rng involved and i messed up on one part, but should be similar

[high kettle]

damn

thanks

[sullen rover]

can someone help me beat zt-s-5 cm with this team thnx

added some operaters

[terse sierra]

co op mode trim requires beating 3 EX stages with 3 stars with another player...

[high kettle]

co op

last time co op i had unbelievable delay

[ocean ether]

Just use afk strat

[glass monolith]

Worry not friend can't Aak you as i heard

[terse sierra]

yeah because you can report them

but I guess one has to watch one's skills in that case, I was sweating

[glass monolith]

No i mean like Can't can't

[terse sierra]

oh it's not possible

[glass monolith]

your shit not targetable by aak

At least as i heard

[terse sierra]

inderesting

I've mostly run into only meta players so far

[high kettle]

my mudrock leaks without W

im just gonna wait for kal module

99%

im sorry you helped me so much still i couldnt

[spark sinew]

kal module

were you told to run panacea

[ocean ether]

[high kettle]

my kal has no module

[spark sinew]

yeah i'm asking which mod are you gonna get

[ocean ether]

whelp, try again when you get kal module then lol

[high kettle]

idk yet

ppl say its the bottom one tho right

[high kettle]

this one uses y

[ocean ether]

pretty sure y is standard

getting the other one is only for memes or if you old player lol

[high kettle]

its some suicide bomber monster tech one right

[ocean ether]

the main point is kal does AoE heal around monstr I think, but yea its the suicide bomber one

[high kettle]

i was gonna go for this before, because is3 mald

[ocean ether]

lol no

why heal when it can be dead

[high kettle]

real

[spark sinew]

i do think X is probably better in your account

[high kettle]

why

[spark sinew]

low variety of ops

[sullen rover]

omg hi hauckindu

[ocean ether]

theres always getting both lol

[sullen rover]

why did you dest react me

[spark sinew]

i'm actually thinking if they even should get either

[ocean ether]

he is trying to follow a vid I think, but his kal dies

[high kettle]

i just wanna clear s-5 😭

[high kettle]

ya this one

[ocean ether]

I dont think you can clear the CM if you barely erk out a clear btw

[high kettle]

o welp

was trying out borrowing the skalter instead

i lack heals

[spark sinew]

yeah as said before, i think masteries generally hold you down more

skalter seems like a bad borrow 🤔

[high kettle]

idk what to do to clear then

[ocean ether]

theres always next year

[spark sinew]

did no one do ling clear on this

[ocean ether]

there is, ling + exalter

ling alone? no

[high kettle]

indeed i have neither

[spark sinew]

arkrec is down, so

yeah you can just use ling for holding lanes

[high kettle]

but then i dont kill p2

[ocean ether]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1db4y1M77U/

[spark sinew]

how so

doesn't your strat just use exu for phase2

[high kettle]

yea for some reason she just doesnt kill it

well the guides i follow buffs her with skalter

[spark sinew]

m3?

[high kettle]

m3

no mod tho, guide has mod

[spark sinew]

wow gintama

[high kettle]

what if i warf her

idk if i have enough deploys tho

[spark sinew]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1sj411E7G8/ 3 executors clear!

[ocean ether]

lol the exalter malding

[sullen rover]

found@one【明日方舟】 突袭 ZT-S-5 低配 单核 令 崔林特尔梅之金 https://b23.tv/SrpF9l9

[spark sinew]

wow the guys are pathetic

without WK purple buff

[ocean ether]

the shield guys?

[spark sinew]

the ones that go to top box

[ocean ether]

oh the last few

here is an idea..

has anyone tried this with... typhon s3?

[sullen rover]

probably works

would the skill get reset when she gets tp though

[ocean ether]

it does

[high kettle]

lol how tight is that dp

[sullen rover]

do you have an e2 texas

[ocean ether]

her hp and skill resets, which can also lead to some hilarious situations when you reset certain ops like surtr

[high kettle]

cardigan almost didnt make it

[spark sinew]

idr if you have executors

[sullen rover]

i just hit my knee it hurts

[ocean ether]

hit the other one, balance and all that.

[high kettle]

i got uhh red

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/Shinsha

[ocean ether]

you could... borrow mlynar and pray to RNG

[high kettle]

lmao

[ocean ether]

the teleport resets both skill and HP, so... if you pray hard enough mlynar might get teleported into hilarious positions to do more damage

[spark sinew]

oh your kal is only s3m3 scratch the modX idea if you don't want to s2m3

does mly keep his trait stack

[ocean ether]

no, its treated as if you re-deployed him

[high kettle]

wait

[ocean ether]

which is why skill and HP resets for everyone, and why ppl like texalter use their skill again on teleport

[high kettle]

his kill demerit goes away?

[spark sinew]

it goes away after skill

(you basically never care about this part, since even in stuff like ch14 it's not relevant)

[ocean ether]

I know I had a run where surtr was nearly dead, but got teleported right behind the boss while facing him

was hilarious

[high kettle]

i'll just wait for base to get my kal to 100%

though if i used kal where would i put eyja

[spark sinew]

if you don't kill WK

mod on kal won't help you

[high kettle]

i was going for a strat that could

[spark sinew]

buffing exu with warf?

[ocean ether]

he needs kal to hold the top lane alone

[high kettle]

but that one had blaze top

which my mud die

[spark sinew]

sure but there's 0 chance she does that vs purple buffed guys for example

[sullen rover]

theres a kal + exec low rarity clear

[ocean ether]

suprisingly, its possible for kal to hold the top lane, alone with no buffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6n57OR_PxU&t=282s

though not sure how much virtuosa is helping in that video

[spark sinew]

lvl70 kal
well the music is weird

i assume if you kill the boss at a different time than in the vid, you might not sync the waves for the orange one?

[ocean ether]

honestly, best bet is to just wait a few more days for "Low rarity" videos to pop up, and look for one which only uses 1 borrow

[sullen rover]

theres one above that uses 1 borrow

[high kettle]

there is an exalter one

[spark sinew]

s stages are zzz anyway

[high kettle]

very big brain though

[spark sinew]

1 whole op "lost" for a year!

[high kettle]

n pinecone

[sullen rover]

i have the kal exec guide
not sure how much rng is neede for this one

[high kettle]

i should raise pinecone

[sullen rover]

ZT-S-5低配双核三星队 https://b23.tv/oc150sw

[high kettle]

what does that title actually say

my google translate says its "dual core samsung team"

LOL

[sullen rover]

samsung is 3 stars

[lusty basin]

"oh no! anyway"

[ocean ether]

Well, I just thought of something. We all know that shu completely breaks mechanics when things teleport out of her range and gets teleport back...

Will she break the witch king?

[sullen rover]

basically 3 stars + 2 core

[high kettle]

oh

i thought it was a reference meme about some old samsung phone

[sullen rover]

but gravel is there 🧐

whatever

[spark sinew]

using exec as god intended

[lusty basin]

always

[spark sinew]

2 defenders + exec

[ocean ether]

do you need me to set exalter?

[high kettle]

wat module is this

[sullen rover]

x

[high kettle]

wonder if that matters

[spark sinew]

as said, idt it's module holding you down

[high kettle]

i think i have a someone alr set it

well fk do i go x or y now lol

[sullen rover]

you can just add some help if it doesnt
just watch the video if you see the talent procs it probably does

[ocean ether]

X is more healing, y is more damage

[sullen rover]

you have project red right

you can sub the module

[ocean ether]

more AoE healing

[spark sinew]

go modless 🛌
in your roster X +s2 is actually fairly nice healer + frd scratch toy

especially since your units don't really want healing that much

[ocean ether]

I wonder how much dmg typhon S3 does

[sullen rover]

yeah i dont think it matters
the guy catches stun dudes with bodies anyways just use project red

[latent monolith]

https://youtu.be/1xS6SloItuM?t=33s

Stationary bosses do funky things

[spark sinew]

middle lane is fine for you i assume?

[latent monolith]

It won't stop the boss from killing you tho

[ocean ether]

yea which is what the witch king does

does he still do the nuke if he gets... nuked by shu?

[latent monolith]

Yes

[ocean ether]

damn, thought we had a mad cheese

[high kettle]

when i ran saria sa midlane there i think saria leaked kek, but that was with WK alive

[spark sinew]

i used mizuki in my clear and it actually felt alright

i'm saying this cause you have him e2 anyway

[high kettle]

yeah

but i only e2'd him recently

no masteries

i assume s1m3?

[latent monolith]

mod x-2 is more important iirc

But S1M3 yes

[spark sinew]

i used s2m3
s1m3 is fine but you might want to wait with raising him

maybe you'll pull ascalon
all those units are weird

they want masteries and at the same they can be ignored...

[high kettle]

ascalon's close to anni right?

prob not

[spark sinew]

ish

[high kettle]

im tryna spark something on anni

[compact lichen]

I need suggestions on what to use against ZT-ST-5 Challenge Mode. Here are my operators and suggest me who to borrow.

[spark sinew]

i would say it would be weird af if they delayed her event

but we actually had the exact same situation

[ocean ether]

ascalon was the banner right before anniv in CN

[spark sinew]

and they delayed the event

[high kettle]

ye

unless i have spare at that time idt i will pull

[ocean ether]

and next anniv has broken ops on both the limited and standard slot... so if you dont save 300 pulls by then you are bricking your account unless you trust your luck lol

[high kettle]

be real nice if i could count actually my potential pull count

from stuff i havent cleared

[spark sinew]

oh i meant that she might spook you on those 300 rolls

[high kettle]

i have so much shit uncleared

oh

she goes right into the pool?

[spark sinew]

ye

[latent monolith]

If I had to guess given past events she'll probably be just after walter

We often end up with the event just before a limited in CN delayed in EN

[spark sinew]

yeah i feel the same way as well
it doesn't make sense story wise, right

like DM and TW

[latent monolith]

It doesn't

which is a fair point

[spark sinew]

deja vu

[high kettle]

global why

[compact lichen]

I need help.

Here are my best operators suggest me who to use against ZT-ST-5

Exalter, Chongyue ,Mudrock, Penance, Horn, Typhon, Passenger, Muelsyse, Ines, Kirin Yato, Irene, Lumen, Silence Alter, Silence, Hoederer, Virtuosa

And suggest me which operator to borrow

[latent monolith]

Did those release in the wrong order too?

[spark sinew]

yes

[latent monolith]

I don't remember how they were connected tbh

[spark sinew]

we actually had trial Phantom before we had Phantom as a unit

releasing after

iirc

[high kettle]

scroll up we linked alot of clears, esp with u having exalter

theres a ling exalter one

[compact lichen]

So exalter is the core operator of the strategy?

[high kettle]

some yes

[spark sinew]

he can't be completely core because of the gimmick

[rustic spire]

How to beat ZT-EX-7 (also have e1 stainless and vivi)

I don't like mylnar

[latent monolith]

How does the orb calculate damage btw

[spark sinew]

and ines

[high kettle]

exalter... i had skill issue using him following guide for ex-8 cm

[spark sinew]

and yet i see her

[latent monolith]

is it just every time you hit it it fires a ball? How much damage does it do?

[sullen rover]

can typhon hold 2 lanes here

[high kettle]

where?

[ocean ether]

oh wow, typhon S3 removes... at least 80% of the boss HP in one cycle and that is with all the extra mobs running around eating her damage

[high kettle]

ayo

is it a pivot angle

[ocean ether]

thats the boss HP in one typhon cycle

[high kettle]

hitting portal?

orb

[ocean ether]

no, hitting boss

[spark sinew]

if we're doing that, isn't it easier to just borrow yato s1

[ocean ether]

the mark follows the boss around

[sullen rover]

holy yato s1m3 tech

[ocean ether]

probably possible to 1-cycle the boss

gonna try kek

[latent monolith]

What's the boss def

[spark sinew]

a lot

[ocean ether]

suprisingly no, his def is weak

[spark sinew]

above 2.5k iirc?
lies

[ocean ether]

RES is ridiculous though

[spark sinew]

huh?

[ocean ether]

the turrets are firing physical btw

[spark sinew]

wow my memories are garbage

[latent monolith]

80 res 700 def lvl 1

[spark sinew]

it's 700

[latent monolith]

tbh

[spark sinew]

but phase2 also "greatly increases"

whatever the hell this means

[ocean ether]

time for my meme attempts to 1 cycle boss with typhon S3

[latent monolith]

50% apparently

[spark sinew]

so just above 1k?

[latent monolith]

I found out how it works, apparently it collects the damage done to the orb over 0.5s and fires one bullet of physical damage that's the level of the total damage received

which means