strategy

[timid nacelle]

that's why you don't need to put exu and warf away

put them where they can help the rest of the squad

and then put the thing infront of everyone

[vocal leaf]

https://youtu.be/oY48vURw46A?si=U_gV8BIKU7MlkxUy i did maleknights clear

[smoky laurel]

i don't have half of these units

[timid nacelle]

he said maleknights

u have better options

guides r not 1:1

[smoky laurel]

for example?

[timid nacelle]

yato texas

[lethal dragon]

If it's normal mode ya2 can solo

[timid nacelle]

don't copy it

[smoky laurel]

that's why i don't trust them, i only have 14 plans left

[timid nacelle]

adjust so it fits your roster

at this rate I would rather clear for you than talk more I gave enough directions

[lethal dragon]

I think you just need to read mechanics
Like if you actually read you aren't losing

[vocal leaf]

yeah like just replace insider with exia

[scarlet fulcrum]

Teleport trigger on 50% hp, and when phase1 killed. Another 50% hp at phase2. 3 times total. Its just normal targetting so it respect taunt

[timid nacelle]

like even the kyo guide iskind of dp lax ?

you can just use sl7 myrtle or sl7 ely

and it will still work

[smoky laurel]

i've read it all and
the boss has small def, use physical attack
if you don't kill him fast enough, gg
he tps around the map
he teleports your units around the map
2nd phase procs unit tp and then sits in place and can be shot by the turret thing which 2nd phase is most vulnerable but still if not killed fast enough, gg

[rancid grotto]

Not bad

[timid nacelle]

[smoky laurel]

then build my squad

tell me what to use

[rancid grotto]

Just clear him slow and easy, don't need to rush, kill phase 1 before he Boss tp bottom corner

[smoky laurel]

he kills all my units in the bottom corner

that's where the stage is over for me

[vocal leaf]

you say you don’t have half units but you have mountain sa thorns lumen ely, hoe is just a luxury pick can use anyone else or not use him at all, insider can be replace by exia and phantom and jaye be just gravel and texas

[timid nacelle]

can't believe I have to be a teacher here and irl

[rancid grotto]

Watch Excuteralter guide and just work on timing

[timid nacelle]

gimme a few mins I am eatin

[smoky laurel]

i'm not using my brain, i'm here to play a game not study for an exam

[vocal leaf]

i have exalt lvl90 and didn’t use him

[rancid grotto]

Than you will suffer because boss will tp and kill your squad

[verbal badger]

try this https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ha4y1Q7vr/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[smoky laurel]

i already got used to the unfairness of the game on how if i don't have max leveled units or this specific limited, i'm gonna fail every stage

[scarlet mortar]

...unfortunately this is a strategy game

rip ig

[smoky laurel]

and i managed to force my way through with nothing but big damage

no supports, no snipers

nothing

no casters

i used like

skadi

or something

i don't remember

[scarlet mortar]

i mean, yh

[timid nacelle]

?

[scarlet mortar]

and now you're here

[timid nacelle]

ye I am havin tough time handling this

anyways

do you have 2 vgs raised ? as in 2 e1 vgs @smoky laurel

[scarlet mortar]

a maxed squad isn't needed to beat this by far, but you've brute forced your way through and now the only crutch you have is stats

[smoky laurel]

no, no ones e2 in vanguards

lol

[timid nacelle]

I said e1

[smoky laurel]

elysium, saileach and siege

[timid nacelle]

great bring all 3

use siege s1

do u have blaze ?

[smoky laurel]

yes

[rancid grotto]

1. Kill 11 unit on top and charge device
   Retreat

2. Bait boss lock when he tp to mid ( you have a lot of time)

3.Kill phase 1 boss and 19 enemies

4. DEPLOY TANK TO BAIT GLOBAL DMG

5. Kill the Boss

[timid nacelle]

good then blaze thorns exu skal as well

texas yato gravel

borrow ng

[smoky laurel]

why gravel

[timid nacelle]

in case u fucked up and needed a 3rd frd somehow

[rancid grotto]

Dp

[vocal leaf]

he has lvl90 saria to bait boss and hes not using her

[smoky laurel]

can't i use red?

[timid nacelle]

do u have red raised ?

[rancid grotto]

Can charge device, bait tp etc.

[timid nacelle]

e1 gravel just lasts longer than e2 red

[timid nacelle]

also better for device activation

[rancid grotto]

Should also work

[timid nacelle]

anyways ye works too it shouldn't actually matter

[smoky laurel]

2 more slots

[timid nacelle]

2 more

?

[timid nacelle]

3 vg 3 frd exu skal thorns blaze

ng

hmmm bring anything that hits hard

[smoky laurel]

mudrock

[timid nacelle]

ng can be any skill doesn't matter

not that

[rancid grotto]

Medic and Mlynar to kill boss or Tank to bait globa dmg

[smoky laurel]

she's good tho

[timid nacelle]

too heavy and won't do jack in the strat

but ye a medic and mlynar

strat is basically put saileach above the device snd make her face it

[smoky laurel]

you want me to spam with specialists or what?

[timid nacelle]

put ely and siege

[rancid grotto]

Span specialist to kill 11 unit on top, than you will have time to kill the boss using Mlynar

[timid nacelle]

put skal then thorns Infront of the blue box and blaze beside him (use the placements in kyo's vid but deploy more vgs to catch up to the timing basically)

so sail in myrtle position and siege(s1 not s2) in texas position and ely infront of her

use sail s1 too

then just remove the extra units u had to use and put the 2 frds

keep deployin ball infront of exu blaze thorns

boss dead

[rancid grotto]

He will die because of boss locking unit or Global dmg

[timid nacelle]

he won't

[rancid grotto]

Kyo guide doesn't work if you can't kill boss fast enough

[timid nacelle]

he can't kill him fast enough is why

mlynar and the other medic is just a failsafe

[rancid grotto]

Lock and dmg plus tp can fuck him up

[timid nacelle]

in case he fucked up something else

trust me it's practically the same as long as he borrows ng

the guide uses no extra healing outside of skal and ng on s2

and skal isn't even buffin ng

[rancid grotto]

He needs use ethan to kill lock device

[civic bear]

as long as u effectively dont die and just abuse ball he'll be fine

[timid nacelle]

shaw ?

why shaw ?

[rancid grotto]

My bad not shaw

Ethan

[timid nacelle]

anyways he just needs to activate the device to switch the Rythm

ethan wasn't in the squad even

his name makes it impossible to ping

[rancid grotto]

His problem is probably he cannot kill phase 1 boss before he tp to bottom right and kills his entire squad

[timid nacelle]

it shouldn't be hard
you don't need exu specifically to kill the boss

what yato can do to the boss , 10 units can do

especially with how useless the other mobs r

[spark sinew]

even dos s3 was possible with e2 60

ex8?

[dark glade]

Can confirm dos s3 is possible with e2 60

[tall cairn]

hey.

[dark glade]

hauck dragged me into his personal hole now i rarely chat here

[tall cairn]

personal hole.

[turbid badge]

hey!

[tall cairn]

[smoky laurel]

did it

lol

[sullen rover]

nice job team

[smoky laurel]

"what you need warfarin for"

💀

[rancid grotto]

Was it hard?

[smoky laurel]

not really

[timid nacelle]

fkn finally

[smoky laurel]

the thing is i did it my way anyway

used my units i used in the beginning

[neat skiff]

Muffin?

[smoky laurel]

killed the boss with warfarin + exu

[sullen rover]

nope those were my units actually

[smoky laurel]

💀

whatever

idc

[sullen rover]

you should thank me

🫡

i helped

[timid nacelle]

I appreciate warf + exu but seriously not like this

[neat skiff]

Meh, 60%/90% + exu makes a girl hurt.

[timid nacelle]

exu already kills boss on her own using a buff is just bullying

[neat skiff]

Ehh, phase 2 dude has 1050 def. Exu wants the help she can get.

[civic bear]

id assume

using balls

[spark sinew]

mind you, the only "good" limited in this was eyja

[halcyon adder]

Ya u use event mechanic

[spark sinew]

even then you could just cut her pretty easily afaik

[halcyon adder]

One exu s3 on the balls will do lots of DMG to boss

[civic bear]

society if every enemy are 0 def

[turbid badge]

aspd up

[spark sinew]

||you would yato s1 them ||

[civic bear]

exu s3 is higher

[turbid badge]

exu range bigger

[spark sinew]

0 def implies 0 res as well

[sullen rover]

yato dont have an s1 thou

[turbid badge]

[spark sinew]

a world where mitigation doesn't exist

[remote perch]

I mean won't the projectile still gets reduced by the boss def anyway

[spark sinew]

or is exu higher even on 0def 0 res?

[civic bear]

well yes but so would anything

[turbid badge]

Haukcindu which version Ak u play

[spark sinew]

neither

[turbid badge]

I play Unknownmm version

[civic bear]

exu is still higher evne 0 def 0 res

its pretty close

[spark sinew]

interesting
yato scales better though, right

with atk buffs

[civic bear]

uhhh no

they have similar stat. yato slightly higher by tiny margin.
yato has 20+% atk buff
exu has 10% atk buff and 10%atkscale

[spark sinew]

oh i meant if you buff them with contracts/regular atk buffs like warf stainless

[civic bear]

yes

you just look at their base

atk buff going to those condition is pretty easy to tell which one results higher

[spark sinew]

oh wait, wtf

for some reason i remembered first yato talent as having bigger numbers

[turbid badge]

Aye

Tried the funny arturia s2 reed s3

[celest bluff]

Out of damaged devices
What the hell

[spark sinew]

should've farmed 1-7 like a normal person

[undone sundial]

is this the right channel to ask for general squad setup help?

[spice mortar]

This is more for specific stages, although noone would probably care. Best to ask in help

[peak cloak]

u can, but keep in mind that squad change depend on stages -> there is no fixed squad for everything.

[remote perch]

Bet

[undone sundial]

any ways to improve this to be generally better for most stages?

[remote perch]

Remove nightmare

[spark sinew]

hard to say without looking at the roster

myrtle seems to do nothing here, and you would be cooked by fast stages without charger/frd

[undone sundial]

can i share it easily somehow

roster i mean

[undone sundial]

she gives poinrs

[spark sinew]

screenshotting your raised units + some high rarity ones should be fine

i doubt you have 10 pages of stuff

[wary wing]

is that a dare

[latent halo]

hi how to ex 5

[turbid badge]

cm orr noma;

[latent halo]

can anyone record a vid for me

[spark sinew]

try winning

[latent halo]

so i can copy

[latent halo]

cm

[spark sinew]

you can put lapp and ambriel if you want
i also like shining or warf more than Breeze here

but yeah, the squad is often stage dependent, so you would shuffle it around, depending

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah looks weird enough

Dude have ptilo but raised weird unit like breeze

[undone sundial]

why is breeze weird

[glass monolith]

Ptilo talent is
Breeze talent is

[ornate loom]

help me make a team please 🙏

[summer copper]

I'm not normal people with normal mind so I would say build 3 stars until u get a relatively good 6 star

[ornate loom]

why? are my 6 stars not good

[summer copper]

For me kinda
Archetto is actually not bad for new players
Just can't help with anything later

[ornate loom]

oki then help me build a team if its good i will use literally anything lmao

[glass monolith]

Flametail is great vanguard to start stage with second promotion which is not close. And 6* rarity makes her pricey to build
Archetto is sniper. You will need snipers early cuz game spams drones like there is no tomorrow

[ornate loom]

so what team could I use?

[summer copper]

maybe, just maybe, build a full 3 star squad first as they were actually not bad
At least enough for you to progress to smth like ch9

[ornate loom]

do i genuinely do that lol

[astral pilot]

How do I proceed on this floor?

[summer copper]

#is-station for nerds
But for me a typhon on left solve everything

[astral pilot]

Which part should I put all of my ops? In the chokepoint or near the blue thing

[astral pilot]

Oh

[vocal leaf]

it will be good for integrated strategies later on, but don’t build all, just kroos, beagle, steward, ansel/hibi and orchid

[civic bear]

Archetto flametail
Lappland totter perfurmer sussurro/silence kroos steward fang/vigna
The rest can be bunch of 3*

[ornate loom]

so what do i do now 💀

[summer copper]

Build 3 stars
Kroos is a must build

[undone sundial]

soo anyone specifically i should replace besides nightmare and who should i replace them with?

[ornate loom]

yeah but do i do full or what theancool did

[scarlet mortar]

ancool's list is good to start

other ops you can pick up as you go

[ornate loom]

okii

[astral pilot]

Archetto carried me

[vocal leaf]

totter is also nice, and shaw will be your main pusher so she’s good to have for some stages

[civic bear]

You won't be using full 12 3* squad after all. So like u got good healers alrdy so don't have to lvl Ansel hibi aside for is

[vocal leaf]

oh and we can’t forget gummy she’s awesome but you also have bassline, start with the one you like the most

[ornate loom]

ancool is this good?

[civic bear]

The defender can be beagle gummy bassline. Pick 2 out of em

Yea sure

[ornate loom]

ill change matter for either gummy or bass

[civic bear]

Change matterhorn

[ornate loom]

gummy or bass?

[civic bear]

Either are ok. Gummy cheaper

[ornate loom]

so this is okay?

[civic bear]

Yea

[glass monolith]

Where are people who attack me screaming "But you can just use Matoimaru" each time i mention Melantha?

[civic bear]

Melantha lava/steward and vigna is tentative

[ornate loom]

wat

whaat do i use instead

[civic bear]

As in. You can replace depending on stage

[ornate loom]

ohh

[civic bear]

Matoi can be valid too instead of melantha

Since matoi is base worker right

[vivid rain]

Yeah matoi have TP skill

[ornate loom]

how do you get event crystals

[vivid rain]

The description says you get it every monday

[glass monolith]

Arknights is about being flexable, if too many drones bring snipers (in your case only Jessica left among drone focusing snipers).
Nothing to use Lava at? Bring something else.

[vivid rain]

For free

[ornate loom]

ty

[left apex]

Soo uh am I finished or na

Need help

[civic bear]

Yeah then matoi prob better. Since u might as well

[glass monolith]

Don't forget to use them to unlock stories so crystal refresh don't go to waste. even if you don't do stories right away. Dossolles offer useful guard for nuking bosses/elites. Majority of other events offer too old to be big use units and good free units didn't enter restore yet (Kroos alter - Invitation to Wineevent - in about 3-4 months)

[ornate loom]

do those stories you unlock with event crystals give anything or is it just story

[terse sierra]

https://www.bilibili.com/opus/931323328428245040 I can already sense it, co op mode is going to result in chaos

[glass monolith]

If it is 2+ years old it was restored and you get gain free operator of event

[ornate loom]

how do i know how old is it lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just rough estimate usually, 1 year for rerun then another year for rr

[glass monolith]

Googling event dates lmao. Just look for event restore or something next to it, they listed in release order

Next to get event restore is Nearl Light if it didn't yet

[scarlet mortar]

wait for DP to deploy myrtle on the right, lapp on the left, eyja center, then cope lapp breaks the roots fast enough to throw down mud

[left apex]

Ok

[scarlet mortar]

after that save DP to deploy dusk and penance consecutively

dusk helps left side, penance solos right

retreat myrtle for penance's spot ofc

[remote perch]

myrtle will probably die first before she can use skill, well this is d0 so pray the dmg isn't alot

[scarlet mortar]

yh it comes down to that

[scarlet fulcrum]

maybe enough for 5 minutes limit for each phase, since its easy mode

[scarlet mortar]

i think you can delay myrtle long enough to deploy her + lapp before the dog

[left apex]

What if place penance on the right with portable supply thing

Oka

Like cope she'll solo lane

[scarlet mortar]

she will

[remote perch]

yee no
dog will come almost instantly in the map

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah first deployment without frd brainrot just wait dp

[left apex]

Wait lemme try do it

Im cooking

[scarlet mortar]

well

[remote perch]

either way, he has no way to effectively kill the boss, even if he survive left and right

[scarlet mortar]

apparently it's working

[remote perch]

the timer will kill him

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dude kill phase 1

[scarlet mortar]

the boss is weak enough at d0

[scarlet fulcrum]

Zam he forgor

[vital arrow]

Whos the dps

[left apex]

So what i do?
.. redeploy penance after no enemy spawn?

[remote perch]

sure, but he will kill using what

[vital arrow]

You could do that

[scarlet mortar]

ayers and dusk or sth

[vital arrow]

But youre just chipping slowly at the boss

And penance has no way of getting shield

[scarlet mortar]

the boss takes forever to explode

[left apex]

Portable supply

[civic bear]

Kill the ground thingy

[vital arrow]

Sure that works, maybe

[remote perch]

neither ayer or dusk can reach the boss

[civic bear]

So u can point lapp ayer dusk to boss

[left apex]

I'll try to place them early

[remote perch]

he needs to destroy the ice first
which he has no units to do so

[scarlet mortar]

dusk frees up the tile for ayers

[vital arrow]

Supply box dies if you retreat it no?

[left apex]

Wait lemme try sumthi

[sly pivot]

surely lap + dusk kills

[remote perch]

can dusk kill the ice fast enough for ayer to be deployed AND kill the boss with like 50% dmg red at phase 2

[sly pivot]

🥱

[scarlet mortar]

couldn't be that bad, for enemyknights i use dusk to open

[vital arrow]

And the dps?

[sly pivot]

the dps is mizuki

[vital arrow]

Mizuki hits pretty hard though

[scarlet mortar]

dps i could just rdp everyone after finishing the stage

genuinely never had the boss explode

and i got to d12

[sly pivot]

i think enemyknight solution is mizuki left and dorothy right

[vital arrow]

Also looks like dusk is E1

[sly pivot]

and u win

🫡

[left apex]

Im cooking

Most redeployed is myrtle

Taking the stun and ice

[sly pivot]

whos ur last deployed

[vital arrow]

Lapp works ig

[remote perch]

impressive that you reach that far

goodluck on the timer tho

[left apex]

Oka

Lez go

[scarlet mortar]

zook for the boss, doro needs to open so she handles left

[sly pivot]

wtfart

[scarlet mortar]

assuming a well-planned clear

[sly pivot]

i mean like second half

or same?

also zooki is boss + lane

so whatever

[scarlet mortar]

either i set up perfectly and don't need to rdp or i just kill everything and dgaf

[sly pivot]

big ass range moment

doro s2 or s3

i reckon s2

[scarlet mortar]

lemme dig up my ss

[sly pivot]

thats what i go with

[scarlet mortar]

doro S3 bro

[sly pivot]

ure nuts

[left apex]

So uh I sum how managed to pass first phase

[sly pivot]

🫡

[scarlet mortar]

root wiping

also early def dudes

[sly pivot]

i am not clearing roots with this whore

surely u just fucking w or smth

oh i guess w right works

as well

i dunno

[scarlet fulcrum]

Boss has boost vibe, u are on phase 2

[scarlet mortar]

yh this is a clean run

[scarlet fulcrum]

It will target 2 ops

[sly pivot]

i see

🫡

[vital arrow]

Plus like

40% damage reduction?

Theyre still on 24/54

Its doable ig

[sly pivot]

why i asked

it hits last

2

and prioritizes spreading the attacks out

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah they did it

[left apex]

So only boss left right? No minion will spawn?

[sly pivot]

so if 2 are in the same lane, only 1 attack goes there

and the other goes on another lane

[scarlet mortar]

yh just kill the boss

that's all

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just kill it

[sly pivot]

150 arts dmg goes crazy

[left apex]

Womp womp no time reset time :D

No worries I got a good luck on this run

Have reed alt now

[fallen terrace]

If i cant clear this with this I will cry

[left apex]

Oka GL

I was playing with 7ops and so little number of collectibles

[fallen terrace]

I put S2 Kirito Nooooooo

Wow S3 Reed good at destroying ice

[left apex]

You'll win

[fallen terrace]

Halfway thru

I finally defeated D15 once

Yay i win

[stable igloo]

Anyone can tell me a top 3~5 of the unit with the most single target heal please? just to have an idea

[spark sinew]

depends on what your idea is

is it surtr hospital

because the answer changes to like warf nearl eyja

from eyja and other medics (with say nearl and warf being not really close to the top 3 picks)

[civic bear]

Warf not even top3 for surtr hospital

[spark sinew]

typical powercreep smh

[civic bear]

No

[spark sinew]

are you counting shu already?

[civic bear]

Just because of how surtr hospital works

[stable igloo]

i currently try to learn and optimise my team the most, but i'd like to stick to one healer and my nearl+ alt reed will do the rest(hopefully)

[civic bear]

It's bunch of healer pointing at surtr. So warf s1 actually never procs

[stable igloo]

thats why i search for the most potent/consistant healing within the branch

[spark sinew]

i swear she procced quite a bit when i last saw some people use it

[civic bear]

Ng eyjalter first two

[spark sinew]

ig now we can heal enough

[stable igloo]

my sidelane is handled already i just have issues figuring out which healer i should upgrade

[copper solstice]

does sanctuary work on surtr ?

[spark sinew]

just show your units then

[civic bear]

No. I meant to his question in general way

[stable igloo]

i only got those tho

i can get silence from ticket tho

[vital arrow]

Ok uh what are these healers for again

Surtr hospital?

[stable igloo]

not really

[civic bear]

General usage no

[stable igloo]

just generale usage

[civic bear]

Perfurmer good enough

[spark sinew]

raise pure stream to e1

[vital arrow]

If its general usage then reedic and perfumer are good enough

[stable igloo]

so i can stick to it and upgrade it like E2 etc

[civic bear]

Ye

[spark sinew]

mind you, with guardian reedic and kal you don't need any more healers

[vital arrow]

Also it depends on your other squad members

[stable igloo]

well i can show you my whole thing,give me a sec

[vital arrow]

if your squad doesnt need healing, you dont even need to bring a dedicated medic

[civic bear]

Sussurro perfurmer purestream are decent option. But u don't have "aoe" healer so might as well perfurmer instead. Global heal might be nice for you

[vivid rain]

(Kal doesnt function very well as a medic but you can just use the superior option of not getting hit

[vital arrow]

Just skalter and reedic are enough

[stable igloo]

currently runing reed,texalter,archeto,kal,nearl,mud,bagpipi,skadi

for "core" i'd say

[vital arrow]

If you want more healing then you can raise silence and kr perfumer

[stable igloo]

but i was wondering if i need another healer or not

or more dps maybe

[civic bear]

Prob not

[vital arrow]

You just need to E2 mudrock and skalter

[stable igloo]

yeah mud is my next goal when the event finish

[left apex]

Which reed alt skill is the best for the expedition joku..

[vital arrow]

S3

[stable igloo]

i'd rather dig all the ressources from there and then get back to E2ing things

so i get perfurmer it is,thanks a lot guys

in case more healing is needed she'll do the job i hope

[vital arrow]

You can raise like

Ansel

Or silence

[left apex]

Funni messy team

[vital arrow]

Ansel is us3d for IS anyways

[civic bear]

Well u do have mulberry leveled so can just lvl her instead too

[stable igloo]

thats true i do need more unit for IS tho,i have issues progressing these

the way IS work is that your 3* cost 0 so it's best to optimise them a bit?

like i pick a few dps/tank/heal 3*?

[vital arrow]

You want *3s for IS2 and IS4

[spark sinew]

eh kal functions well for most stages

[vital arrow]

Popukar ansel orchid steward kroos lava spot beagle cardi are all good

[spark sinew]

i would rather level your other units

[stable igloo]

with my box who should i try to get with the 6 hope for a potential solo carry?

[spark sinew]

you don't need more medics

[stable igloo]

if its even doable to solo carry tho

[vital arrow]

Reedic

[stable igloo]

s3?

[vital arrow]

Yeh

[spark sinew]

borrow jess for a starter

[vital arrow]

Only for IS4 though

[spark sinew]

pick reedic later

[vital arrow]

IS2 and 3 have different meta

[stable igloo]

when you say is 3-4 etc what do you mean

i didnt progress much so i dont know

[vital arrow]

IS4 is expeditioner

IS2 is phantom

IS3 is mizuki

[stable igloo]

i see

thanks

i did clear the montly thing

but the classic content was too weird/hard for me early so i'll retry with your intel

after raising the 3* tho

[vital arrow]

Just try it out, you dont lose anything anyways

[stable igloo]

btw you have any clues for me on ZT EX 7

i'm getting hammered

got way too much issues protecting both lane while activating the stuff and dpsing

skill issues i'm pretty sure,but ppl from YT video use so many unit i dont have

[vital arrow]

I havent touched EX stages

[scarlet fulcrum]

I think the main point for that stage is to have control over melodies most of the time, tho rarity aboose surely whatever. balls machine also help alot

[left apex]

Rematch time

[spark sinew]

that's a draft alright

?????

[spice mortar]

The carry

Maybe rand promote

[blazing sinew]

Any idea for HIO 2?
Mini annihilations are crazy

[blazing sinew]

Do u have arturia?

Try killing enemy tuners with her

[stable igloo]

arturia is virtuosa's name right?

@blazing sinew

[blazing sinew]

Yeah

[stable igloo]

yeah but her s3 is only lvl 7

have a hard time farming for masteries,i didnt clear the shop yet

[spice mortar]

Virtuosa masteries not vital

[spark sinew]

that's support

[dusty cedar]

combo quibby with suzuran and cast domain expansion on the boss

[stable igloo]

well ty , i borrowed mlynar and with reed alter+virtuosa i could clear it

was kinda hard but i guess virtuo does thing

[ivory leaf]

Too many op can't choose (Gnosis suzuran And really dry bred module girl a.k.a Ceobe)

What do you guys suggest

[dapper hedge]

For Module? I'd go ceobe, you can ignore the rest

[dusty cedar]

suggest an op to build? send screenshot!

[ivory leaf]

What about gameplay wise?

[dusty cedar]

er, if you meant between those three, ye Ceobe's is prioritized, followed by Suzu, and you can ignore Gnosis'

[void terrace]

Wait is it just me or does Typhon ignore the witch kings barrier

[ivory leaf]

Owhkeh

[void terrace]

Also is penance mod 3 good. I am currently still deciding if I should invest in her and mudrocks mods

[dusty cedar]

weelll you can get Gnosis' mod but I only really found that useful during the DOS fireboss thingy and nowhere else

[void terrace]

I love juggernaughts but I have a feeling their next mods will be better

[ivory leaf]

Same

[cyan gorge]

Both Penance and Mud are fine with base mod only

[void terrace]

Eeh yeah I mean it's a good lump of stats and resistance

I suspect mud will get a universal resist mod like gladiia did

[ivory leaf]

Is penance worth the drag? (Currently think about E2 her)

[dusty cedar]

oh damn make her more tanky

[void terrace]

And penance will probably get a buff to her reflect which would be very funny

Penance is fun

She's not always the answer

[dusty cedar]

penance is very much worth

[void terrace]

But is is an answer

[ivory leaf]

Okeh me E2 Drunk judge

[void terrace]

Like with support she can face tank the steam knight

[dusty cedar]

like, probs the best defender to build after saria and mudmud

and jessicat

[void terrace]

She can take aak buff to speed up her shield regen

Which is very funny

[ivory leaf]

I only have warfarin

Hoping for a Blemishine

[void terrace]

With aak and Chen on the team she almost instantly gets her skill up

Blemi works too with stainless but it's slower

Chaining penance skills is wild

[ivory leaf]

EITHER WAY

[void terrace]

The selector ticket is still available

But please don't waste it

On those charas

[cyan gorge]

I still don’t know what to use my selector for

[void terrace]

Same

Idk why I even got it T-T

Oh well Ines pot 2 time

Who do you not have?

Mylnar kalt are good picks

Pozy is on it too but in light of the other meta snipers coming she isn't priority

[dusty cedar]

I know he's not really being advocated, but nobody's stopping me from building Vigil

[void terrace]

Ines would be next on the list

[void terrace]

God have mercy

[void terrace]

Ceobe

Unironically ceobe

[wind spire]

Degen should be close by now right

[dusty cedar]

shit id pick mountain

assuming your roster's stacked

[void terrace]

Ceobe has her mof

[crimson wolf]

Though with a lot of pain and effort I did manage to beat jt8-3

[void terrace]

To counter future super high defence

[void terrace]

Gratz

[cyan gorge]

Stacked but very anti afk

[dusty cedar]

super high def is uncommon anyway

[void terrace]

I mean ceobe will come in cert shop again

But for CCs

[dusty cedar]

plus you already have all the dps metuh ops too shit on said elite

[void terrace]

She's becoming more and more of a common answer

[dusty cedar]

cc true

[void terrace]

Her infinite scaling is long term value

Plus inbuilt res shred

Plus doggo cute

Plus baguette

[dusty cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/ceobe-arknights-sesa-durnar-is2-gif-26881967

[crimson wolf]

Found out that BlackKnight's deployable, everytime he restores, counts as a new deployment instance, so that helped me dealing with the burn effect, plus putting him in line with my healers helped them survive the meteors as he can take a couple hits :3

[void terrace]

Interesting strat

That reminds me of muelse clones being used as bait

Tacticians have a use afterall

not you vigil

[dusty cedar]

still building

totally wont regret this decision

[void terrace]

I mean mind me asking why tho

[spice mortar]

Xd

[void terrace]

Waifu over meta but

Husbando over meta?

[dusty cedar]

would you believe if i said i just want to e2 a 6 star vanguard

[void terrace]

I mean

Have you used the selector ticket?

Ines is a very good choice

[dusty cedar]

there is one?

wait, just now?

[void terrace]

Paid one

[spark sinew]

just skip

[dusty cedar]

wait which one is it?

on the store?

[void terrace]

Yep

[spark sinew]

ceobe in 2024, and considering you also can just buy her from kernel banners? so so

[void terrace]

Headhunting permit

The gold pack

[void terrace]

Yeah exactly. Kernel is more value

But there isn't much better there

[dusty cedar]

there's like 4 gold packs 😭

[void terrace]

Maybe mountain but he's falling off

[void terrace]

Read emmmmm

[dusty cedar]

mountain is still stable tho

[void terrace]

True

[dusty cedar]

uhhh wait what's the pack called? xd

oh found it

[void terrace]

Top operator headhunting something something

Yes

Have fun

Please don't just get ines

And consult on what you should get

[dusty cedar]

it's a little pricey

[void terrace]

Yeah

[spark sinew]

ye so you skip

[void terrace]

Financial health comes first

[dusty cedar]

yeeeeaaah uhh

true lol

[spark sinew]

or i mean, doro is a fine pick ig

[void terrace]

he alr bought it

Did he

Yeah didn't see doro

[spark sinew]

oh?

[dusty cedar]

me? i did not

[void terrace]

Doro is worth it for the mouse waifu

[spark sinew]

you can see the pool in shop

[void terrace]

Nono our dear birdknights enthusiast

[spark sinew]

without buying

[void terrace]

Oh you can?

Didn't know that T-T

[spark sinew]

afaik

hence skip

ceobe is pretty irrelevant with logos now but ymmv

[cyan gorge]

Yeah I was considering Doro or Weedy

[void terrace]

Doro

Doro over weedy

[spark sinew]

she would feel a bit worse to use at p1 but strong pick for sure but it's mostly that you won't really do anything that p5? doro can do
still has all the utility though

[cyan gorge]

I’m not whale enough to worry about pots

[spark sinew]

weedy goes into kernel...in 6? months so there's that

[summer copper]

Might be unlucky enough

[spark sinew]

idr when doro debuted, especially in en

but she will take awhile to show up

[void terrace]

God damn are doro pots insane

Sadly only have her at base pot

Still 90 mod 3 M6ed her thi

Doro is peak waifu

And actually useful unlike goddam hool

And Vivi T-T

[summer copper]

I go P1 on most of them
-1 dp very helpful

[void terrace]

Vivi just needs her mod to tip her into a usable state

I'm just saving pots for any future executors or Ines

Honestly unless you are going for record cleara

[ivory leaf]

Is Lessing worth the drag?

[merry narwhal]

he's bottom 1 six star

[ivory leaf]

Care to elaborate?

(ofc free six stars in some games are either bad or useful)

[spark sinew]

doesn't do anything useful

his archetype is also bad

[merry narwhal]

you can use him but for a six star he's on the lower end of power level. His design is like that of a year 1 operator. No sustain, purely single target, 1 block, long redeployment cooldown thanks to the welfare tax. He's worse than Skadi who at least has AH synergy

[spark sinew]

not sure about bottom 1 though

[merry narwhal]

his German VA is godly though, so I'll raise him anyway

[ivory leaf]

German VA?

Oh btw how come you don't like Skadi when she does good enough damage (helidrop I think I forgot what it is called)

[merry narwhal]

Skadi's usable because her mod3 gives her a pretty low cooldown

S3 is usable with AH synergy, i.e. Gladiia mod3

[foggy grove]

skadi still stink outside of ah but you can cope her with rdp mod

[merry narwhal]

Lessing's cooldown is 70s thanks to the welfare tax and that's really long for that kind of effect

yeah, that's what I'm saying and Lessing is even worse

mostly because of the cooldown

he also has two pretty useless passives

[ivory leaf]

Dam

[foggy grove]

they just hate him

even the module is 💤

[ivory leaf]

Anyways collection is collection

[merry narwhal]

S3 is a 20/40 skill and it even hurts him

oof just oof

at lesat Vigil is a weaker ranged Mountain

Lessing can duel the UT flowers I guess

one every 60 seconds

his German VA is peak

there you go

[sly pivot]

he can duel the frost twins in is2

🤫

[merry narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1210725713653661757.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

no way

[sly pivot]

hes immune to freeze

🥹

[merry narwhal]

no pocket healer?

🥹

[sly pivot]

how broken is this

[civic bear]

he's better than most people give him credit for

[sly pivot]

hes a duelist doing duelists things

🫡

i cant ask for much

[civic bear]

not his fault archetype is shit

😭

[merry narwhal]

stinky male op not even op smhmh

[sly pivot]

people think hes vigil tier

🫡

[merry narwhal]

he's below Vigil

🫡

[sly pivot]

ure too much

[civic bear]

just shows they never used vigil nor lessing

cuz vigil is so much worse

[merry narwhal]

killing one elite every 70 seconds doesn't sound as good as a 3 block vanguard that can clear trash

please elaborate you obviously played both more than I did

[civic bear]

who doesnt clear trash brah

[merry narwhal]

Lessing

do you have specific elite enemies/bosses in mind that he's good against?

[sly pivot]

he hits hard

🫡

[merry narwhal]

Hoederer 4k kind of hard-hitting?

[sly pivot]

he hits 3k

[civic bear]

3.4k is pretty close

[sly pivot]

so close enough

[merry narwhal]

against what kind of def

[civic bear]

its not even bad skill cycle

[merry narwhal]

20/40 is bad

[civic bear]

20 duration 40 sp is fine

not everything has to be mlynar tier uuptime

[merry narwhal]

can he kill a red trillby asher?

[civic bear]

anything above 30% is good enough

[sly pivot]

duh

asher has negative dmg

i mean

defense

[merry narwhal]

can he kill two of them if they are spaced a bit?

[sly pivot]

well thats not his problem

🫡

he does what he does (kills elites)

im not saying hes good

[merry narwhal]

ig he does it better than Utage

🫡

if he's not bottom one, what is he then? Bottom 2? Bottom 5?

[sly pivot]

like bottom 10

salter exists

[merry narwhal]

i forgot Carne exists

[sly pivot]

there are way worse ops

[merry narwhal]

at least he blocks

okay I forgot about swire2 too

garbage unit too

[sly pivot]

atleast lessing does what he tries to do which is duelling some bozo onskill

[merry narwhal]

good points

doing something is better than doing nothing at all

or harming your eco

or both

is he worse than Pallas?

[sly pivot]

the problem with these shitters is that most of them blur into each other so i cant tell whether theyre better than one or another

[merry narwhal]

or Irene

[sly pivot]

🫡

[merry narwhal]

that's why we have to look at specific elites to notice

just looking at stats isn't enough

[sly pivot]

okay but he kills elites

🫡

i dont care more than that

its just his job to 1v1 a bozo

[merry narwhal]

fair enough

ranged ops who do nothing are obv worse

[civic bear]

lessing on the trillby asher bottom guy at h12-4 he can deal like 65% solo

[sly pivot]

he also has his stupid cleanse from talulahs fire

so he doesnt get dmg reduction

its a usecase

but thats just more of content favouring operator

🫡

[civic bear]

its good on upcoming cc1 too

fireball less dmg

[merry narwhal]

talent 1?

[civic bear]

ye

[sly pivot]

70% dmg reduction

🥹

only up when blocking but its easy

[civic bear]

i'll take specialized kit that actually works

rather than

trash cleaner

[merry narwhal]

it's honestly a lot of DR but only for 20 seconds and you have to block

mmm fair

can he kill Talulah p1 or p2 in one cycle?

[sly pivot]

2 cycle without medics

cause u just helidrop

im not saying hes good

if hes good he would 1 cycle her

🫡

[merry narwhal]

helidrop with S2 or with S3?

[civic bear]

ehhh

[sly pivot]

s3

[civic bear]

theres not many

that can 1 cycle

tal

as a blocker that is

[sly pivot]

yea talus problematic as a 1v1 too

cause the dmg ramp from fire and whatever

[merry narwhal]

which talulah btw

[civic bear]

dbs ofc

[sly pivot]

jt8 3

[merry narwhal]

the level 0 or 1?

[sly pivot]

ill be real level 0 and 1 is the same

🫡

[civic bear]

atk diff

hits harder from autos

[merry narwhal]

i was worried about the hp mostly

[civic bear]

its like 50 more dps only tho kek

[sly pivot]

and also the dmg reduction she gets from ops on fire

she doesnt do much dmg herself

[civic bear]

ye

jt83 p1 770 atk
so 171 dps. then burning (20s assume cuz thats how long the skill is) so 20 x 107

half of his hp

[merry narwhal]

i tried it with Franka

she also needs 2 cycles

to kill

[civic bear]

h84 better test tho
p2 1500 atk
20s she hits 4x so 6k true dmg
then burn is 2140

[merry narwhal]

but she needs a medic obv

[civic bear]

lessing is almost 9k hp

so he survives in 20s (if he can pop s3 before getting hit)

3 cycle solo (ignoring burn bait) on p2

[merry narwhal]

Skadi kills her in one cycle but needs Gladiia support

🫡

[civic bear]

lessing is op bro (on a few enemy only)

he also doesnt take 20s for skill 💀

skadi only winning cuz filthy mod15 support

[merry narwhal]

I'll try Skadi S2 without AH

[sly pivot]

just because others can do what lessing can doesnt discount his achievement

🥹

he doesnt become worst 6* for this

u tried throwing this mf under vigil of all things

[merry narwhal]

Skadi S2 doesn't come close

[civic bear]

even vigil wouldnt want him there

[merry narwhal]

she did about 30% with one deploy

no medic

[civic bear]

u need hp

only s3

[merry narwhal]

will try S3 without AH next

[glass monolith]

My favourite part of my JT8-3 auto is getting Skadi killed with 9 fireballs + caster attacks + Talulah attack. So she can benefit from revive attack speed S3

[merry narwhal]

yeah Skadi S3 sucks

those 20 sp until it's ready

painful

without additional synergies Lessing actually does pretty well here

[civic bear]

u can buff him too

[sly pivot]

what like 200% scale does or smth

[civic bear]

220

[merry narwhal]

i definitely underated his 10 sp helidrop

the attack scale should also work well with mod1

[dusty cedar]

what's stopping us from dropping lessing and skadi s2 and just turning bosses into fruit punch?

[spark sinew]

because you can drop texas surtr

and do ridiculously more damage

meanwhile those duelists might not even kill it

[dusty cedar]

well yeah but

[spark sinew]

tl dr opportunity cost

lessing also is designed for a different set of challenges, unlike skadi

[dusty cedar]

you definitely use the metuh to bruteforce the hard dudes

[spark sinew]

so they pair very poorly

[merry narwhal]

because watching Skadi S3 face tanking the boss while slowly gaining hp through Gladiia mod3 is fun

[dusty cedar]

but like, come on, lemme prank the bosses with lessing/skadi s2

[dusty cedar]

exactly

watch them go swing swanh

[spark sinew]

they would definitely die from the laughter while being scratched by the """6*""

[merry narwhal]

i see hp bars go up gradually and it causes some neuron activation in my brain

[rigid otter]

Who should I bring for dossoles water gate?

[dusty cedar]

lessing has self heal?

[merry narwhal]

no I was talking about Skadi S3 with glad mod

[dusty cedar]

ah right

doesn't s2 have higher atk% buff though? but I guess without the plus hp from s3, she dies to the afterburn?

[merry narwhal]

a good hp pool is a must against Talulah because she swings slowly but she swings for true damage

[stable igloo]

Hi/re guys, can i get your though on ceobe,should i use my 180 for her?

[ornate loom]

is this a good team im running?

[spark sinew]

are you planning to pull on wisadel

[stable igloo]

wisadel is the W alter that have a rocket launcher?(just making sure since i'm not so used to some names)

[spark sinew]

she isn't even in the shop rn is she

[stable igloo]

ceobe is in the yellow thing

and since she look good i dont know if i should selec her with my first 180

[spark sinew]

with 3 pairs of underwear yes
the banner also has Logos and he would basically replace ceobe completely for you

[dusty cedar]

personal thoughts, hell yeah, go for it
serious answer, better to save on another unit

[spark sinew]

save for GG/get pulls imo

[ornate loom]

is qani good?

[dusty cedar]

ye she goood

[stable igloo]

gg?

[dusty cedar]

arts dps almost on par with surtr, except she doesnt die by the end of the skill, plus she two block so you dont worry about leakage

[stable igloo]

logos and w will be on same banner?

[dusty cedar]

and if youre lucky and have suzuran, you pair them together to cosplay gojo

[steady shale]

good enough though i think an extra guard or caster would be better once you get the opportunity to pull another good one, replace with a defender maybe, also Amiya will eventually need to be levelled so you could consider building her

[merry narwhal]

ending 2 tech for is4 and e1 level 1 is enough

[scarlet fulcrum]

I think its qanipalat not qiubai

[ornate loom]

anyone could u help me out?

[zealous sparrow]

My current team, I should choose who in this pack

[merry narwhal]

yes, it looks good

[glass monolith]

You can keep running current team.
Out of new operators you gained - promote Gravel at some point in future, she is funny stall/bait tool. Shaw/Rope could be used on specific stages to push enemies into holes, but you will need to get their skill level to increase power of push. I don't recall if that power is level 4 or 7

[merry narwhal]

mlynar

[zealous sparrow]

only girl

[merry narwhal]

Reedic

[stable igloo]

[scarlet fulcrum]

reedic no brain

[dusty cedar]

pick surtr duh

[stable igloo]

what do you mean no brain,thats rude

[dusty cedar]

no wait reedic isnt too bad too

[zealous sparrow]

this girl?

[merry narwhal]

yes

Reedic is a good magic dps who can also deal with elites, Surtr exists to delete tough elites and some early bosses on a long cooldown -> both are good, pick whichever you like more

[spice mortar]

This man got trapped by ak women too fast, already spending

[dusty cedar]

id suggest surtr but like reedic fits a lot of rosters more compared to surtr

[glass monolith]

Reed alter is peak "I am medic but..."

[dusty cedar]

when the healer's had enough

[stable igloo]

she's the goat

praise reed alter

[merry narwhal]

Reedic gets the witch skin, Surtr doesn't

I'd go Reedic because she's good at E1 too

[glass monolith]

Surtr got Ice cream and still no lore for 4 years
Reed got no sister (Laugh in Astgenne Asteria)

[merry narwhal]

Reed alter is quite a bit better than this one too

[spice mortar]

I want

Green skins >>>>>>>>>>>

[scarlet fulcrum]

Got her in p5 by accident

[spark sinew]

ew

[lethal dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/580349799157596162.png?quality=lossless&size=64

[spark sinew]

also it's easy ines

especially since reedic will have a rerun (although even if she never reran, ines would be a better choice)

[celest bluff]

Maybe I should save for Ines

[spark sinew]

she won't be in shop

[celest bluff]

4 years later?

[vivid rain]

not that far off

[dusty cedar]

oh right reedic rerun is almost near

will she be in cert shop?

[dapper hedge]

No

[celest bluff]

Haha
Definitely no

[dusty cedar]

boo :(

[vivid rain]

when has solo rateup ops ever been on cert shop while they're running

[spark sinew]

sure, save 180 right now

you won't get enough in 4 years for sure

even while not pulling almost at all i get quite a bit of certs

[spark sinew]

did you pick already? Ines is a better choice and doesn't have a rerun

you didn't screenshot all options available that's why people went reedic

[zealous sparrow]

not jet

[spark sinew]

yeah it's ines>=mly> reed (but she also is rerunning so she goes even lower i'd argue)

(un)fortunately males are not even an option, so

[spice mortar]

This dude just nukes my team, didnt want to target gravel when placed, any asdvice?

A

His dumbass skill

[dapper hedge]

Use the ball and kill his first phase ASAP while he still in the back

[spice mortar]

Yup figured it out

[solemn gust]

I thought it would be harder

[halcyon adder]

Mlynar>>ines

[tidal sedge]

Where can we apply the Genius technology of Skalter + Virtuosa

[smoky halo]

what

[tidal sedge]

The technology

It's beautiful

[spice mortar]

Is that s2

[smoky halo]

least schizo technology

yes

[spice mortar]

Cool

[narrow patrol]

Mlynar is pure bullshit crack on another level

Ines is a good option assuming you got him and not her

[smoky halo]

wait till u see walter

[narrow patrol]

I’m aware

But she ain’t out yet

Key word: Yet (as far as Global is concerned)

[tidal sedge]

WIS'ADEL VIRTUOSA TECHNOLOGY?

[narrow patrol]

Seriously tho what were the devs thinking when they made her because holy@shit

[spice mortar]

Money

[tidal sedge]

Wait

Does her turrets

Give necrosis

Via technology of arturia s2

[spice mortar]

Do turrets count as an extention of unit or seperate unit?

Bc id imagine something like click drone will also apply necrosis but a summon wont

[smoky halo]

i dont think theyll have highest atk

within range

[tidal sedge]

Oh no they won't but will they behave like the technology of Skalter + arturia

[smoky halo]

damn

use gg arturia for global necrosis instead

[tidal sedge]

GENIUS

Wait

[spice mortar]

That's interesting

[tidal sedge]

I need to isolate gg though

She's always low on atk

I need more Technology

[spice mortar]

Thorns mod with virt s2 could go hard

[tidal sedge]

Archetto s2 is instant proc

[smoky halo]

yeah

[tidal sedge]

So we have

Virtuosa + Skalter
Virtuosa + Archetto
Virtuosa + Goldenglow

Virtuosa + Passenger?